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Title: NBA Thread: Season Suspended Due To Pandemic And Gobert Dumbassery
Post by: Soren on August 06, 2016, 01:16:08 PM
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Sure, teh b-ball doesn't get the love around these parts as other sports. We don't have our fearless leader talking about the Milwaukee Bucks on Twitter. Or get bonus segments on podcasts like hockey does. But who cares. This thread is all about celebrating our love for the roundball. Cue the music!


Even after losing a crushing 7 games series, and with their MVP/human cheat code Stephen Curry playing below his ungodly self during the Finals the Warriors are still far and away the favorite to win the 2016-17 NBA Championship. Not only do they boast the core of Curry, human microwave Klay Thompson, habitual nut puncher Draymond Green and all around old guy Andre Iguadola but they've made a few notable additions.

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/3bd52cee4a2857389560f0aad9f3005caeee190b/0_154_3665_2200/master/3665.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=3673c87bb9eb43ccd64f231e71748bb1)
An MVP going to a fully stacked team seems unfair, but there's fair question to how Durant will mesh with the rest of the offense, and how shots will be distributed from now on. There's also the question of depth and avoiding injury. Also, we need centers. But never fear because...

We also have Zaza Pachulia! The man who's biggest claim to fame is the video above. In addition he was nearly voted to the All-Star game this year thanks to the votes from his home country of Georgia.

Need more reason to root for this super team? Well, you'll certainly love the hijinks of one JaVale Lindy McGee! Don't know who he is? Check out this "highlight" reel!

In addition to all that glorious talent we also have your usual assortment of unabashed ring chasers (David West), scrappy guys off the bench (Shaun Livingston, Anderson Varejao), scrubs (James Michael McAdoo, Ian Clark, Kevon Looney) and rookies who fell into a golden opportunity but will never play (Damian Jones, Patrick McCaw).

So what are you waiting for? Come join the hype train! Warriors always come out to play!
(https://assets.entrepreneur.com/content/16x9/822/20160212200956-golden-state-warriors-nba.jpeg)
Title: Re: Golden State Warriors (and other NBA teams, I guess) thread
Post by: Adrock on August 06, 2016, 01:53:42 PM
The Warriors replaced an unreliable Harrison Barnes with a top three player. There's going to be an adjustment at the beginning of the year then total and utter domination for the rest and into the playoffs. The only times they'll lose is if they get bored on defense toward the end of the season well after they've locked up home court. See last year when The Lakers managed to beat them in a game that meant nothing to no one.

Speaking of, I sincerely hope The Lakers are terrible again this year. I want another top three pick which has the added benefit of making the first round pick owed to Orlando into two second round picks. Sure, it makes the 2018 pick conveyed to The Sixers unprotected, but adding one more young piece to their already decent young core would be nice. Only The Timberwolves may have a better young core. Otherwise, this will be a growth year for the team without Kobe high jacking the offense. I think Russell and Ingram have the potential to be All-stars.
Title: Re: Golden State Warriors (and other NBA teams, I guess) thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 06, 2016, 02:28:25 PM
JaVale Mcgee is coming to the Warriors!?

LMAO, his clips on Shaq'tin A Fool are all I know about him, but this should make for a comical season in all the best and worst (in the best) ways possible.


Oh, and don't forget that 3 of the Warriors Starting 5 are starting on the Olympic Dream Team right now.
Durant, Clay & Green seem to play well together from the limited amount of clips I've seen of Olympic Trial highlites.
If Curry had shown up... we would be previewing next season already.


edit: Oh and Soren.... +1 from me, for biting the bullet on thread creation here.
Title: Re: Golden State Warriors (and other NBA teams, I guess) thread
Post by: nickmitch on August 06, 2016, 02:34:00 PM
Yes, the Warriors were the best team last year (that Draymond Green suspension was bullshit and ruined the Finals).

That nutchecker deserved that suspension.  He should've suspended in the previous series after hit hit the same player in the nuts in back-to-back in the previous series.  That should've cost the Warriors the Conference Finals.
Title: Re: Golden State Warriors (and other NBA teams, I guess) thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 06, 2016, 02:41:34 PM
Yes, the Warriors were the best team last year (that Draymond Green suspension was bullshit and ruined the Finals).

That nutchecker deserved that suspension.  He should've suspended in the previous series after hit hit the same player in the nuts in back-to-back in the previous series.  That should've cost the Warriors the Conference Finals.

He should have been suspended in the OKC series... I agree with that. But you forget that the Warriors lost the game after that happened anyway. so a Green suspension may not have changed anything with the outcome of that series.

The Finals though... that was some grade A fuckery from above (and I mean top of the NBA food chain) with the post game fix. The way they went back, moved the call that was made on an aggressive rebound attempt, to a series of fouls that were never called during the game (even though the ref stood right there several feet away and watched the whole altercation from beginning to end yet never blew his damn whistle during any of it), just so that they could "upgrade" them unevenly to a Tech and a Flagrant, and then claim that the call they made didn't suspend him, but automatically triggered a suspension, was such bullshit that I couldn't help but laugh at it all.

Of course, none of that excuses the Warriors for losing any of the following games, especially game 7. Game 6 tho... wow. The Fixer was in on that one. and if you don't know who I'm talking about, check the ref that made the last 4 calls on Curry to foul him out. 2 of those were total BS, 1 was questionable, and one was stupid on Curry's part.
Title: Re: Golden State Warriors (and other NBA teams, I guess) thread
Post by: nickmitch on August 06, 2016, 02:47:16 PM
I would've preferred if the NBA just said, "That's the third time he hit someone in the nuts; he's getting suspended".  That roundabout **** they pulled was entirely unneeded.

Curry played like an idiot to foul out.  You can call BS on 3 of the fouls, but why is he guarding that close with 5 fouls?  What are you doing, Steph??

But, at the end of the day, Warriors lost Game 7 at home.  They didn't deserve it.
Title: Re: Golden State Warriors (and other NBA teams, I guess) thread
Post by: Soren on August 06, 2016, 02:58:00 PM
But, at the end of the day, Warriors lost Game 7 at home.  They didn't deserve it.


Agreed. For a team that has had so much misery it's nice to get to talk about them blowing something that's actually meaningful just a year removed from winning a championship.


I'm wary of saying the T'Wolves are going to be fun to watch because I said the same last year and well...
Title: Re: Golden State Warriors (and other NBA teams, I guess) thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 06, 2016, 03:08:56 PM
I would've preferred if the NBA just said, "That's the third time he hit someone in the nuts; he's getting suspended".  That roundabout **** they pulled was entirely unneeded.

Curry played like an idiot to foul out.  You can call BS on 3 of the fouls, but why is he guarding that close with 5 fouls?  What are you doing, Steph??

But, at the end of the day, Warriors lost Game 7 at home.  They didn't deserve it.

Except he didn't hit anyone in the nuts the "3rd" time. Lebron wasn't aware of the swipe until he was showed the video after the game, and thats when the team started crying about it publicly to the press. That's when the NBA went behind the scenes and changed the calls to upgrade them. it was total BS.

Curry's foul out was equal parts BS and stupidity. but the BS was quite obvious, especially because of the Ref that was calling all of it.

But yes, Game 7 was called pretty fairly, and there was no excuse as to why they lost other than the Cavs just wanted it more (and that Barnes and Ezeli both sucked ass in the times they were needed the most).

I'm not mad at Lebron for exploting a possible moment to gain advantage, I'm more upset with the NBA for fixing meddling with the game in the first place, and then being so damn obvious with it.
Title: Re: Golden State Warriors (and other NBA teams, I guess) thread
Post by: Soren on August 06, 2016, 07:55:46 PM
(and that Barnes and Ezeli both sucked ass in the times they were needed the most).

This cannot be emphasized more. Barnes wilted under the pressure to the point where he routinely passed up open jumpers and the ones he did take were painfully off the mark. Which betrays the fact that he had at least showed up on previous playoff series. This put more pressure on Iggy who was injured and Livingston who can really only give you 20 minutes at most on any given night.

Ezeli was more egregious. That Varejao played nearly as many minutes as he did during Game 7 shows how much Kerr had lost confidence in him.
Title: Re: Golden State Warriors (and other NBA teams, I guess) thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 07, 2016, 12:18:35 AM
Ezeli missed the first 2 dunks in the game... he needed to be benched immediately.
That was the 4 pts they lost by right there. Barnes was just consistently bad since post All-Star break, and he shouldn't have been getting the playtime he was.

for Ezeli to have been put back in the game in the last minutes of the game, and setup to be exploited by LBJ was just bad coaching on Kerr's part.

Not that none of the blame fell on Curry, but, even with Curry's turn-overs, Ezeli and Barnes were just liabilities that cost them game 7. (period)
Title: Re: Golden State Warriors (and other NBA teams, I guess) thread
Post by: rygar on August 07, 2016, 06:21:59 AM
(http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/81679607-patrick-ewing-charles-oakley-greg-anthony-and-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QRZn%2BKXu6Mb6BovkawErfkrTbQVNMjq4l4W%2FSTop%2FRFBLMwHubeTJGzk%2BJzGZxIBd1ZwyrY%2F%2BfzhzAiMxS7UDbA%3D)

Knicks fan checking in. Outside of Mike Woodson's first season-and-a-quarter, things have been pretty dreadful since Van Gundy left, but I am cautiously optimistic about the Rose trade. There isn't nearly the cap risk as there was when they signed Amar'e, they didn't give up anything of real value, and Rose has the potential to be their best back court player since Walt Fraizer. I'm hoping for an Atlantic Division crown, first round playoff victory, and a competitive showing in the semis. I'd probably settle for them playing great defense and showing much improved integration on offense.

My favorite Warrior:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/71/a2/40/71a240bbd33ab83bb14224ad4ea0de8f.jpg)
Title: Re: Golden State Warriors (and other NBA teams, I guess) thread
Post by: Adrock on August 07, 2016, 07:01:19 AM
The knee to Steven Adams' groin was a during a basketball play. The kick to Steven Adams' groin was blatant flopping which Draymond Green should have been fined for in addition to the Flagrant Foul. I didn't think it was worth a suspension. The make-contact-when-whistle-is-blown-to-get-a-foul-called is a smart play though I think the NBA should look at it on a case by case basis. A shooter jumping into contact after a defender falls for a pump fake isn't the same thing as a player kicking his legs out and flailing his arms. That isn't exclusive to Green as players have been using that tactic for some time now.

The so-called groin swipe to Lebron James was total bullshit. He stepped over Green which is completely disrespectful. Green's reaction seemed more like "get off me" than a cheap shot. I know it sounds like I'm a Draymond Green apologist, I'm just calling it he way I see it.

The suspension shifted the momentum of the series. Steph Curry made some dumb plays at the end of game seven (like a behind the back pass on the baseline... what the hell was he thinking?). Then, Steve Kerr left Curry on Kyrie Irving. The Warriors should have won game seven, but it never should gotten to that point. Had Green not been suspended for game five, the series would have been over. That collective clusterfuck was worse than 2007 when Amare Stoudemire and Boris Diaw were suspended for game five.
Title: Re: Golden State Warriors (and other NBA teams, I guess) thread
Post by: Shaymin on August 07, 2016, 07:40:00 AM
The kick to Steven Adams' groin was blatant flopping which Draymond Green should have been fined for in addition to the Flagrant Foul.

I thought he got $25k for the Sports-Ent **** Punt. (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/06/draymond-green-suspended-fouls)
Title: Re: Golden State Warriors (and other NBA teams, I guess) thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 07, 2016, 07:55:56 AM
The so-called groin swipe to Lebron James was total bullshit. He stepped over Green which is completely disrespectful. Green's reaction seemed more like "get off me" than a cheap shot. I know it sounds like I'm a Draymond Green apologist, I'm just calling it he way I see it.

That play should have been blown dead the minute Lebron threw Green to the ground with that leg sweep. It should have never got to the step over, and then the swipe. The ref was literally 5 feet away and watching the entire thing. and they still didn't blow the whistle till 3-4 seconds later after Dray had gotten up and he and Lebron were both going for a rebound.
the movement of the call by the league from the rebound that the whistle was blown for, over to the step-over/swipe incident several seconds earlier that the whistle wasn't blown for, and then calling it a nut shot when for one, it didn't look like an intentional swipe at his groin, and two, he didn't even hit him in the groin was complete and total bullshit, and Adam Silver should be ashamed for even trying to pass off his bullshit as not tampering with the game in hopes to stretch out the series for an extra game or 2.

and I think choosing Scott Foster to ref game 6 was a deliberate attempt at having a Ref that has ties to fixing the game (calling it the way the league wants) and what appeared to be a bias against the Warriors. So it was no surprise that he made all the bad foul calls against Curry in game 6. Curry should have had maybe 3 of those fouls, but the quick 3 called on him (by the same ref) during the momentum shift come back in gm6 was total BS and I understand why he got frustrated.

W's took the L in game 7, and I firmly see it as them losing the game, much more than I see it as the Cav's winning it. The Warriors seem to beat themselves with terrible players (Ezeli and Barnes), bad coaching (Kerr) and stupid plays (Curry WTF!?).
Title: Re: Golden State Warriors (and other NBA teams, I guess) thread
Post by: Adrock on August 07, 2016, 09:33:51 AM
I thought he got $25k for the Sports-Ent **** Punt. (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/06/draymond-green-suspended-fouls)
He got fined for the flagrant foul. I was saying he should have additionally gotten fined for flopping. Maybe the NBA didn't think it was necessary to stack the fines.
Title: Re: Golden State Warriors (and other NBA teams, I guess) thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 07, 2016, 01:47:10 PM
But he didn't flop, he flailed.

unless flop is being redefined here...
flopping is like when Lebron gets grazed by an elbow from his own team mate and then then flys back like he got sucker punched by a superhuman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJRnX0O9vrA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJRnX0O9vrA)

or when Varejao gets barely bumped and then flys back like he braced for impact from a wrecking ball to the chest.

I think floppers should get called more often.
I know people sometime exaggerate the contact to get the call because the refs can't see everything, but now the few have ruined for the whole when they exaggerate every contact in hopes of drawing a false call and disrupting the flow of the game.
Title: Re: Golden State Warriors (and other NBA teams, I guess) thread
Post by: Adrock on August 07, 2016, 05:30:30 PM
I equate flopping to overselling. Green is a large man. He's flailing excessively to sell that call. I mean, look at these shenanigans:
(http://i.imgur.com/z24nWNz.gif)
Title: Re: Golden State Warriors (and other NBA teams, I guess) thread
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 07, 2016, 06:53:31 PM
Yes Flailing Excessively - that's so unnecessary a movement not related to getting the call at all, and almost looks intentional. (he flails like that often, so I'm not sure it was actually intentional, but still could and probably should have been called as such)

I would consider it a flop had he just fallen to the ground holding his wrist or something after throwing the ball away.
Title: Re: Golden State Warriors (and other NBA teams, I guess) thread
Post by: Adrock on August 07, 2016, 07:14:00 PM
I consider flailing to be a type of flopping because these very large men are acting like they're getting bulldozed. I'm not willing to devote more time debating the semantics of flopping especially when we ultimately agree that the suspension was nonsense. The NBA got a few more games out of the series. Personally, I felt like that cheapened it. The Warriors had a harder road to The Finals then they have to deal Green getting suspended for nothing. Granted, I feel like they should have had more poise to still pull off a victory, but here we are.

Anyway, what is everyone's favorite team and why?
Title: Re: Golden State Warriors (and other NBA teams, I guess) thread
Post by: nickmitch on August 08, 2016, 09:38:46 AM
I think making more calls against flopping isn't the right fix.  I think the refs need to make less foul calls overall.  The fouls are an essential part of the game now, so you kind of need to sell them if you're a player.  If more types of contact are deemed ok, then you get less guys trying to get more calls.
Title: Re: Golden State Warriors (and other NBA teams, I guess) thread
Post by: Soren on October 26, 2016, 06:50:15 AM
So I had to be reminded by a friend that the season started yesterday. So yeah. And to kick things off the Warriors got punched in the face by the Spurs! Yay!

I'm actually ok with this. After getting smoke blown up their butts all through the offseason about the inevitable Warriors/Cavs Round 3 Finals it's nice to be reminded that hey, the Spurs are really good team and they'll be a worthy opponent in the West.

This will be a daily reminder that the Warriors blew a 3-1 lead in the NBA Finals

And hell, Javale got posterized on the first night of the season.
Title: Re: Golden State Warriors (and other NBA teams, I guess) thread
Post by: rygar on October 26, 2016, 07:57:16 AM
Knicks season didn't start any better. I was going to post in here to remind people the season was tipping, but I wasn't sure if your thread title change was sincere, lol.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: rygar on October 26, 2016, 09:24:48 AM
   :)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 02, 2016, 08:53:49 PM
OMG, my sides hurt right now
https://twitter.com/LGhail/status/793601086296842241
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 03, 2016, 10:58:30 PM
Warriors CRUSHED Westbrooks spirits by constantly and purposely setting up Durant tonight.
It really was a glorious thing to watch happen. Total blowout from 2nd qtr till the end. I don't even think Westbrook came back in during the 2nd half.

If you could have seen the look on Westbrooks face. LOL
he had that look of "I can't believe this **** right now, I would say I don't even know deez niggas, but we all wearing the same jersey.... and we kinda rode here together"


Durant was straight Stuntin' on on ALL of OKC, and Curry was going out of his way to help him do it. Green was happy to take a Tech just to let OKC know Durant found a new home, where he was actually happy now. I almost feel bad for them. It's kinda sad now that I think about it... the amount of hurt WB must feel right now.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on November 04, 2016, 06:16:52 AM
Steve Kerr getting a tech in the first few minutes of the game set the tone really. The Warriors weren't going to let Russ and Co. bully them, and it looked like they wanted to kill this rivalry as soon as it started.

I love how Russell wanted to troll Durant by wearing a photographer's vest as he came into the arena (KD is an amateur photographer, who knew?). Of course, he knew failure meant the internet was going to utterly roast him.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwZDqQhVQAE6nr-.jpg)

Warriors are still getting roasted on the glass, but man that second quarter was a thing of beauty.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 04, 2016, 07:01:01 PM
These are the Warriors I like to see. Klay getting his confidence back, Curry just having a good time, Green riling up the troops and Durant putting it down inside and outside the key.

Really liking Clark too. If Clark had played in place of Barnes in the playoffs, and played anything like he is right now, W's might be a 2 time champion right now. I'm impressed by his output in the last 2 games. He just never had a chance to really shine last season since Kerr was holding onto Barnes so tight.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Adrock on November 05, 2016, 08:10:59 PM
The Lakers defeated The Warriors by 20. Again.
(http://i.imgur.com/l4rFuDU.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 06, 2016, 01:18:27 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Q0l3InL.gif)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on November 06, 2016, 07:19:22 AM
That's beautiful.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 07, 2016, 10:46:24 PM
Guess what....


just 1 game later....


He's baaaaaack!!!!


(https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/curry-saiyan.gif)

13 3's in a single game. Pushing Kobe out the record book, and securing another solo 3pt Record.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 11, 2016, 04:19:45 PM
Let's talk politics for a second....

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw_vedSUoAA391C.jpg:large)

Klay living that High Life.
(now legal in California)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: ThePerm on November 12, 2016, 04:24:44 PM
Weren't the Warriors and the Cavs the teams in the Playoffs last year? I don't usually pay attention to NBA. I'm a "Suns in the Playoffs" type of fan. So, it's been a few years since I followed basketball.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 12, 2016, 06:39:55 PM
Yes they were.
there was plenty of drama surrounding it, but the Cavs came out victorious in the end.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on November 13, 2016, 05:42:16 AM
Yes they were.
there was plenty of drama surrounding it, but the Cavs came out victorious in the end.


That's a new and interesting way of saying the Warriors blew a 3-1 series lead in the Finals.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 13, 2016, 12:10:16 PM
Yes they were.
there was plenty of drama surrounding it, but the Cavs came out victorious in the end.


That's a new and interesting way of saying the Warriors blew a 3-1 series lead in the Finals.

That was me avoiding the bullshit that sadly contributed to the Warriors blowing a 3-1 lead.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 20, 2016, 10:31:09 AM
Damn Milwaukee is BITTER at the Warriors!! LOL

 I bet this has to do with Bellavedova getting traded there from the Cavs. LOL
http://www.sbnation.com/2016/11/19/13688612/even-the-bucks-bandwagon-cam-is-making-3-1-jokes-at-the-warriors-expense

The Bandwagon Fan Cam is quite hilarious though.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Adrock on November 20, 2016, 10:43:31 AM
I'm not sure a team that hasn't won a playoff series in like 15 years should be making jokes about anyone.

Again, I'm not even a Warriors fan, but since neither the Lakers nor the Sixers are likely going anywhere this year, all this 3-1 taunting kind of makes me want to see the Warriors steamroll through the playoffs and sweep the Cavaliers in the finals. I don't even want it to be close. I want a 16-0 playoff run and the NBA losing millions in advertising for that nonsense last season.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 20, 2016, 11:23:06 AM
There is something fishy going on again this season involving the Warriors though.

2-3 games ago against the Raptors, the Warriors were up 12 with less than 2 minutes left. The Refs started blowing whistles on non-fouls. Kerr and the Warriors were obviously annoyed to the point of just having to laugh it off, as the fouls were ridiculous. No matter what it seemed like the refs were NOT ready to let the Warriors just kill the time off the clock so the game could end, as it was mostly decided already halfway into the 4th.

They called McCaw on foul on a 3pt shot where he didn't touch the guy, then they called Green for a foul on the shot when he got there too late to have even interfered. and at some point during this barrage of whistle blowing you hear someone yell out "The Spread is 6 points"
So now that DeRozan was able to continue his streak of 30+ points games (mostly from the free throw line this game... seriously, I think he had 34 pts and half of them were from the freethrow line - I think the Raptors ended the game shooting somehting like 40+ freethrows. it was ridiculous).
Long story short, Announcers even complaining on the "questionable calls being made" the Refs allow the game to end now that the score has come down to Warriors by 6.... covering the spread.

It was very blatant, and I think that's why Curry and crew just started laughing it off.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 20, 2016, 09:46:48 PM
Anyone watch the Raptors game? My above post I guess is more relevant to the Raptors being bet on than the Warriors after what happened just now tot he Raps vs the Kings.

Last second 3 pointer to tie the game, but there was a shot clock error where it started late. So the refs waive the shot and call the game over.

They didn't redo the inbounds play and reset the shot clock, they just straight up waived the points and then called the game OVER. YOU LOSE. Raptors go home.

That is fucked up.
I didn't get to watch the game, but I need to see highlights now. I imagine there is gonna be some controversy over that ****. I didn't hear a peep over the point shaving when they lost to the Warriors, but surely someone will talk about how that either should have been a redo, or an OT.


edit: I just saw the replay, and the Kings tipped the ball, but the clock didn't start till the Raps touched it like 1/4second later. Not the Raps fault the clock guy didn't catch the tip. They should redo the play and gamble that he won't make that 3pt shot again, or just let it go to OT.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 23, 2016, 06:50:10 PM
Damn we gonna miss this guy

Obama calls out a crying Jordan as the Crying Jordan.jpg
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/801167294533550080

Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 28, 2016, 11:29:37 PM
Tell me you saw this block tonight


Dray blocks the shot, and then knocks the ball back in Schroder's face, as he falls out of bounds.... Warrior ball. Play.Of.The.Game.

and then he followed it up with another defensive stop moments later, sealing what was actually a pretty terrible game from the Warriors stand point.

Warriors couldn't pass, catch, shoot, dribble, dunk, layup, or do anything right for most of the 1st 3 quarters. Luckily the Hawks weren't playing that much better
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on November 29, 2016, 07:35:17 AM
I didn't see it live, but my phone was quick to tell me what happened. I love Draymond in the "He's an a-hole, but thankfully he's our a-hole" kind of way.

I'd be remiss if I didn't post these two spectacular T'Wolves dunks. Mad props to Alex Len for somehow surviving this attempted murder by Zach LaVine.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 29, 2016, 09:54:14 AM
That Wiggins dunk was good, but you're right, Lavine straight up assaulted that big man down low. Had a hand on the ball and everything. Didn't even matter.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 29, 2016, 07:39:44 PM
Cavs got their asses whooped tonite.

and gave way to a Shaqtin' a Fool moment of the night as well. LOL
https://vine.co/v/5UOimZqhMlM (https://vine.co/v/5UOimZqhMlM)


During the game, while on the court, JR Smith decided he needed to step off the court real quick to say what's up to a homeboy during the game.... giving up 2 points on an inbound play.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 30, 2016, 05:50:25 PM
Kings mopped the floor in Philly tonight!!!
http://deadspin.com/sixers-kings-game-cancelled-after-philadelphia-stadium-1789541232
unfortunately for the Kings, that doesn't mean they beat the 76er's real bad tonight.
I literally mean they mopped the floor in Philly tonight, because the 76er crew forgot to turn on the AC, so the floor started sweating....
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on December 02, 2016, 06:45:56 AM
I didn't see it live, but my phone was quick to tell me what happened. I love Draymond in the "He's an a-hole, but thankfully he's our a-hole" kind of way.

That quote didn't make it through the end of the week...

Pictured: Draymond Green's natural shooting motion.
(http://www.bizpacreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/roundhouse-kick-chuck-norris.jpg)

Further context: http://deadspin.com/draymond-green-needs-to-get-a-grip-1789596522
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on December 04, 2016, 08:58:13 AM
I...I...I don't even know what to say anymore.


Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 04, 2016, 09:59:01 AM
I didn't get to watch the game yesterday, but Dray better find a way to calm those limbs.

You think they'll come back an retroactively flagrant foul him?
It's kinda funny though that a foul was called, and a tech was handed out, but none of it was related to Dray's flailing limbs... I hope Kerr pulls him aside and puts an end to this bullshit before it gets out of hand again.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 05, 2016, 10:32:00 PM
Nobody got anything to say about that Warriors game tonight!?

You know Jordan called Kerr halfway through the 3rd and said he better pull Klay before he gets too close to 67pts or he uninvited from the Christmas party, FOR LIFE.

I can't believe Kerr pulled Klay before the 3rd was over. I understand not putting him back in in the 4th, but he pulled him with 1:48 (or something close to that) left in the 3rd. That's just a shame as Klay was having the game of his life so far, and Kerr took that from him.


and this **** was HYPE as ****
https://twitter.com/gifdsports/status/806001123521916928



Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on December 06, 2016, 06:44:00 AM
60 points in 29 minutes. Absolutely crazy.

I do think Kerr is keeping in mind what happened last year. The game was truly over at that time and the Pacers were not interested in making this a game. He was on pace to surpass Kobe's 81, so it's an interesting what-if.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 06, 2016, 07:07:25 AM
He could have let him finish out the 3rd quarter.

2 more points puts him ahead of Lebron, Bird, Iverson, Shaq
4 more puts him ahead of Jordan (w/o OT), McGrady and Carmelo
5 more points would put him ahead of Rick Barry

If he could have made it to 70, he could have topped Jordan regardless of minutes played.
and there was still about 1.5 minutes left in the 3rd. At the pace they were playing, the Warriors probably could have gotten at least 4-5 more possessions, so I think he had a shot at all of those.

Kerr could have atleast let him finish the 3rd Quarter.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Shaymin on December 06, 2016, 03:46:39 PM
60 points in 29 minutes
60 - 29 = 31

Oh god.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: rygar on December 08, 2016, 07:37:26 AM
I never root against "my" teams but Phil Jackson had last night coming. He has been the exact disaster every Knick fan I know thought he would be. The Dolans are a blight on the city in so many ways. The one bright spot is Porzingis is legit and at least gives the fans something to become invested in.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 08, 2016, 09:37:48 PM
I never root against "my" teams but Phil Jackson had last night coming. He has been the exact disaster every Knick fan I know thought he would be. The Dolans are a blight on the city in so many ways. The one bright spot is Porzingis is legit and at least gives the fans something to become invested in.

For those that don't know what happened wednesday night...
https://vine.co/v/5xWnwEqt2JZ

Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 26, 2016, 02:37:14 PM
Everyone knows the Warriors lost by a point last night (my thoughts on how that happened later)
I think everyone saw how Jefferson POSTERIZED both KD and Klay (OMG it was brutal)

but i don't think anyone saw just how cold blooded LeBron is towards this rivalry with the Warriors.

(http://i.imgur.com/ftqTfsr.jpg)

frozen veins man... if that doesn't fuel them in the next match up, then I don't know what will.
Warriors need to go Super Saiyan in the starting 4 (and McGee, not Zaza Pikachulia).


**
but for those that watched the game, tell me that the 1st 2 fouls on Dray were not bullshit. It led to Dray getting a tech, but honestly, they were bullshit calls. Might be hard to call in the moment, but the 2nd one was obvious as **** that it was clean.
Foul on Curry where he completely stepped out the way and didn't touch dude, was another BS call.
No call on the McGee dunk that he missed?
and the No call on the KD being tripped in the last seconds of the match were also BS.

It's kinda bullshit that even the announcers can't callout the BS reffing that they see. They keep trying to bring it up vaguely "oh that looked like a file to me.. :shrugs shoulders: yep, clearly a foul in the replay... oh well", but it's like they'll lose their job or get fined for criticizing the refs. seems so fishy to me. and it's not just for this game, or just about this team, I'm talking in general here.

But on the other hand, Cavs v Dubs is real. They match very well.
Bronbron v KD, Kyrie v The Chef, Love v Klay

I personally put this loss on the Dray for repeatedly forcing passes in the 4th quarter. I think it was like 3-4 possessions in a row, which is how we lost the lead, and ultimately the game.
But if the refs had just called it straight from the get-go, it might have been a different game altogether.  W's were up early, and 2 BS fouls and a T on Dray kinda sucked a little momentum out the team.

But the next rematch @ home is Jan 16th.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on December 29, 2016, 09:02:07 PM
I am resigned to the Warriors being a team that just commits stupid turnovers. It's in their DNA, along with Draymond's natural shooting motion.


In other news, Kemba Walker wakes the ghost of Nick Young.




If you don't understand that reference...


Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 29, 2016, 09:20:32 PM
At least Swaggy P didn't shimmy when he thought it was in, only to realize it wasn't. That's just embarrassing.


And Yes, Draymond has restless leg syndrome, but many people in the NBA do, most just don't have "tourettes" leg reflexes.
The Warriors are are also chronic abusers of the extra and often forced pass.
when it works, it's highlight material, but when it doesn't, you have to ask why it was even attempted in the first place.

But hey, they had to have a weakness somewhere. If they didn't have all these stupid turnover, the only way to beat them would be to hope they completely stalled on offense for multiple extended periods of time.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on December 29, 2016, 09:38:51 PM
But hey, they had to have a weakness somewhere. If they didn't have all these stupid turnover, the only way to beat them would be to hope they completely stalled on offense for multiple extended periods of time.

Which can happen, given the leads they almost blew to the Raptors a few nights ago.

There's the nagging fear that Iggy might just fall off a cliff one of these days and Ian Clark still can't really be trusted until he contributes during the playoffs. And JaVale has impressed, but he's still a knucklehead.

In unrelated news I attended my first NBA game a few weeks ago while on trip to Atlanta. Hornets vs Hawks. Got to see Marco Belinelli and a Zeller blow up big for the Hornets and Dwight Howard pick up silly fouls like always.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 29, 2016, 10:25:12 PM
But hey, they had to have a weakness somewhere. If they didn't have all these stupid turnover, the only way to beat them would be to hope they completely stalled on offense for multiple extended periods of time.

Which can happen, given the leads they almost blew to the Raptors a few nights ago.

There's the nagging fear that Iggy might just fall off a cliff one of these days and Ian Clark still can't really be trusted until he contributes during the playoffs. And JaVale has impressed, but he's still a knucklehead.

but that stall in offense also had multiple stupid turnovers. multiple stupid turnovers also being the main, and only reason that matters, when it comes to that loss to the Cavs as well.

Quote
In unrelated news I attended my first NBA game a few weeks ago while on trip to Atlanta. Hornets vs Hawks. Got to see Marco Belinelli and a Zeller blow up big for the Hornets and Dwight Howard pick up silly fouls like always.

congrats. I get to go to the Kings game vs Warriors up in Sac in little over a week. Good seats in their new stadium. I'm juiced.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on December 30, 2016, 08:34:28 AM
but that stall in offense also had multiple stupid turnovers. multiple stupid turnovers also being the main, and only reason that matters, when it comes to that loss to the Cavs as well.


I'm working with the premise that the Dubs won't be able to solve their stupid turnover problems.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: rygar on December 30, 2016, 11:16:20 AM
In unrelated news I attended my first NBA game a few weeks ago while on trip to Atlanta. Hornets vs Hawks. Got to see Marco Belinelli and a Zeller blow up big for the Hornets and Dwight Howard pick up silly fouls like always.


Nice. I've only been to Madison Square Garden in New York and the Spectrum and Wells Fargo Center in Philly. You get an extra appreciation for how large and athletic the players are when you see them in person. Outdoor summer league games are also cool if you ever get the chance.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: rygar on January 10, 2017, 08:45:10 AM
I'm going to wait to trash Derrick Rose in case him going MIA is because of something serious, but I hope this ends any talk of him resigning. Porzingis and occasionally Brandon Jennings are the only positive things about the Knicks other than the city and arena they play in. I like Melo as a person, but I was sick to death of watching him just standing there dribbling the ball into the court long before he even showed up in New York.

This is basketball nihilism.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 16, 2017, 11:36:22 PM
All that **** talking got him BLOWN OUT

(http://i.imgur.com/KOl8Pn7.png)

Love quit, LeBron was shamed, Kyrie was ineffective and Korver was a defensive liability.
LMFAO.

Steph showed up, Dray triple doubled, Durant held it down, Klay D'd up, Livingston poured it on.

Now if only these Warriors would show up for the rest of the regular and post season. They defensively shut.the.cavs.down. It was a thing of beauty.
It was so beautiful that even LeBron cried (mostly to the refs, before he sat out most of the 4th quarter.)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with more than just Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 19, 2017, 09:41:09 AM
The most blatant walk in NBA history, and the refs STILL almost didn't call it!!

http://m.imgur.com/vpxgyEJ

#Shaqtinafool clip of the month, for sure.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 28, 2017, 01:36:37 PM
Allstar Rosters are out. Rising Star game rosters are out.
Talk of snubs of Westbrook not starting over of Curry, and Embiid not making the Allstar roster because he's a "rookie" on limited minutes

GM Lebron was in panic mode after a 6of8 game losing streak (7of11), mostly to teams in the West. Including the Pelicans w/o A.D. and to the Sac Kings in OT. He was crying and whining that he needs more help... He has the highest paid team in the NBA, and possibly of all time, and is whining that the Owner needs to spend MORE to get better players. Inside NBA on TNT calls him out: "can't sympathize, whines and cries, is he afraid to compete!?"
Lebron finally trims his beard down (I think it was too full of "L's") and goes on to happily break the streak w/ a defeat of the worst team in the NBA.... the Brooklyn Nets.

Bulls having a very public breakdown w/ Butler and Wade demoralizing the team, Rondo lashing back, and then Wade dumping hot oil from above all over Rondo. This is also followed up by the WORST game Butler or Wade have ever had. We'er talking airball shots & layups, and then passes to no one, which led to Butler benching himself and sending in a sub. and then in teh post game, when the coach is questioned about it, the coach caught lying that the sub just didn't hear him sub him in. LOL (yeah, that totally didn't happen, that's why)

It's been an eventful week in the NBA if you've been paying attention.

But this post right here, basically sums up in detail, the feeling of why I think Harden will win MVP
over Westbrook this year, regardless of Westbrooks numbers on paper
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/5qat1j/statistically_analysis_russell_westbrooks/

(my thoughts were that he seems to be stat padding, and I don't like the way he plays)
He crashes the boards like a running back, and then kicks out if he gets stuck. His bigs also don't really rebound, but instead box out and leave the rebound for Russ, who is just constantly crashing the boards. I just really don't like his style of gameplay. but the link above adds statistics and detailed analysis to what I was thought. So now I feel more justified in thinking it.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Adrock on January 28, 2017, 07:35:44 PM
I'm torn on GM Lebron. On one hand, the front office pulled out all the stops to put that roster together. Sure, the Cavaliers lost some members of last year's team, but it's still the best team in the East despite the losses. James is complaining about the lack of a playmaker. Motherfucker, you're the playmaker. On the other hand, the condition for returning to the Cavs was Dan Gilbert would spare no expense when it came to the roster. James is simply holding the owner and team management to that promise. That's something he should have taken to management first then complained to the media if nothing was done. Still, David Griffin just performed another miracle with that deal for Kyle Korver and gave up two players who weren't playing and a protected pick. Give the man a second. Trades aren't easy to put together, and the Cavs don't have a ton of flexibility unless it gives up a piece James probably doesn't want the team to part with. Additionally, James gave up some of his leverage by signing a three-year deal (third year player option) last summer instead of another one-and-one. At 32, he'll be on the decline of his career soon if he isn't there already. He won't be able to make these demands forever.

If I had my choice, I'd give MVP to The Process. The Sixers can make the playoffs this year if it keeps playing the way it has been recently which is nothing short of amazing, and it's doing so without Ben Simmons. All of that is a dream-scenario that I want to see happen if only because everyone not in Philadelphia **** all over Sam Hinke's process. This is still the team he put together. Not only do The Sixers have a nice young core, it has assets, both in draft picks and young players it can afford to give up (e.g. Noel, Okafor). In any case, it's an absolute travesty that Joel Embiid didn't make the all-star team. He's having a better year than Paul Millsap. Come on, voters...

Despite the hot start, The Lakers are once again dead-last in the West. The team can still sneak into the playoffs (then get roasted by The Warriors). I'm in a weird spot. I get excited when I watch The Lakers win yet I'm not upset when I watch the team lose. Losing is in the team's best interest. The Nets aren't catching any team. The Lakers could use another top three pick.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 29, 2017, 12:12:07 AM
Feel no sympathy for crybaby Lebron. The Owner has already spared no expense, and they got a championship (not sure if there were payouts outside arena to make that happen ;)   ...j/k). They have the most expensive lineup in the NBA, and that's after the luxury tax that was paid last year.
From what the analyst were saying, is that another big acquisition could push that luxury tax from $25M, all the way up to $100M this year.
The Cavs don't need anymore big $$$ talent, they just need to start making what they have click with what's already working. I'm glad no one is offering up anything useful to them (Melo for Love LOL)
He should actually just feel lucky that the East isn't as loaded as the West, otherwise they wouldn't be in that #1 East position anyway.
Now if only the Raptors and the Celtics could get their **** together and bring it Lebron in the East. He obviously needs to be pressured about more than just winning the NBA finals pre-All-Star break. He should feel a little pressure about even being top seed in the playoffs.


edit: and I never even brought up all the drama w/ Melo.
His coach publicly calls him out about outliving his usefulness to the team. Melo states he's all in for NY, but if the coach feels that way, they should have a convo. He later reiterates that he is ALL IN for the Knicks and doesn't want to go anywhere. All that week, Melo is being shopped around the NBA (...awkward?). Turned down by the Cavs, turned down by the Celtics... but Doc Rivers over in LA states he just might trade his own son if making Melo a Clip was an option.


oh, and thanks to the Warriors.... Clips just might make that trade. Anyone watch that 46pt BLOWOUT today!? Curry hit a halftime halfcourt 3 and then did a soccer slide on the court. LMFAO.
The Warriors are so much fun to watch when they are having fun.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: rygar on January 29, 2017, 03:58:59 AM
I don't want to bring politics into it other than to say that there are dimensions to both the LeBron and Melo conflicts that transcend basketball and I will support both players for those off-the-court reasons. I will also just say that the media coverage of the conflicts, and how management responds, won't be primarily driven by on-court agendas either.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on January 29, 2017, 06:52:17 AM
I will never take Dan Gilbert's side in anything. This is a man that took joy in publicly roasting Lebron in the media when he left and tried to do anything in his power to discredit him. And that's even before you start getting into his shady mortgage lending business.

As far as I'm concerned Lebron is criminally underpaid in Cleveland and holds the most power and ability to make decisions in that franchise. He has earned that by sheer force of dominance in the league. Cleveland's records with him prove it. I disagree with what he's saying about his young players (Golden State has to make due with guys like McCaw, McAdoo and Ian Clark. Can you imagine Curry publicly blasting them like James did with Felder and Liggins?) but he has a point in that he shouldn't be having to log 44 minutes a night in mid-January.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 29, 2017, 08:41:20 AM
I don't want to bring politics into it other than to say that there are dimensions to both the LeBron and Melo conflicts that transcend basketball and I will support both players for those off-the-court reasons. I will also just say that the media coverage of the conflicts, and how management responds, won't be primarily driven by on-court agendas either.

Now I'm curious... details please.

I will never take Dan Gilbert's side in anything. This is a man that took joy in publicly roasting Lebron in the media when he left and tried to do anything in his power to discredit him. And that's even before you start getting into his shady mortgage lending business.

As far as I'm concerned Lebron is criminally underpaid in Cleveland and holds the most power and ability to make decisions in that franchise. He has earned that by sheer force of dominance in the league. Cleveland's records with him prove it. I disagree with what he's saying about his young players (Golden State has to make due with guys like McCaw, McAdoo and Ian Clark. Can you imagine Curry publicly blasting them like James did with Felder and Liggins?) but he has a point in that he shouldn't be having to log 44 minutes a night in mid-January.

Then he needs give his rookies/youngsters playtime and develop them. I understand he's on a "win NOW" ticking time clock. but that's his own problem. He can't just run around and expect the owner to go for broke just to get more vets on the floor. There's caps and tax in place for a reason.
LeBron had what he was asking for now at the end of last season, but decided he didn't want to pay them to keep them. Now their expected to go out and spend that money anyway to replace what he previously didn't want to pay to keep.

Just because GSW got lucky in acquiring KD, they also gutted their vet bench in the process. Now it's up to Curry, Klay, KG, & Livingston to perform so that they can rotate the young players in and out of line ups to get some ingame experience. He can't just form his own personal All-Star Team full of nothing but All-Stars, as awesome as that would be. He already has the best team in the East by far. Now he just needs to put in some work and get his bench and 3rd string up to speed.

They got #20 out there, running around like a Lil Kyrie meets Kevin Hart, who is that? is that a rookie?
(Answer is their 2nd round pick)
He's quick, but he's so small.




and just because, here is the Curry Flurry at the end of the 3rd last night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDehryykgIY&feature=youtu.be&t=4m16s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDehryykgIY&feature=youtu.be&t=4m16s) 
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: rygar on January 30, 2017, 06:41:35 AM
It's more perspective than details and is too divisive for this forum. I will just say that LeBron's way of doing business is challenging existing power structures and there has been a substantial racial dimension to the backlash since at least "The Decision".

Melo's low efficiency, low defense, ball-hogging game is the same as it was when the Knicks traded for him, and when they most recently resigned him (both times in opposition to the majority of Knick fans). If they are moving him now for basketball reasons, then it is an admission of massive failure on behalf of management. If they are moving him for off-court reasons, then it circles back to Phil Jackson's racial arrogance regarding LeBron. Either way this is all on management and that's whose incompetence the media should be focused on.

Again, there are issues of class, race, and power lurking as to why there is a lack of accountability for ownership and management, and why the personal characters of black men like LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony are drug through the mud, and people like Dan Gilbert, Jim Dolan, and Phil Jackson are protected.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 30, 2017, 06:47:30 AM
It's more perspective than details and is too divisive for this forum. I will just say that LeBron's way of doing business is challenging existing power structures and there has been a substantial racial dimension to the backlash since at least "The Decision".

Melo's low efficiency, low defense, ball-hogging game is the same as it was when the Knicks traded for him, and when they most recently resigned him (both times in opposition to the majority of Knick fans). If they are moving him now for basketball reasons, then it is an admission of massive failure on behalf of management. If they are moving him for off-court reasons, then it circles back to Phil Jackson's racial arrogance regarding LeBron.
Either way this is all on management and that's whose incompetence the media should be focused on.

Again, there are issues of class, race, and power lurking as to why there is a lack of accountability for ownership and management, and why the personal characters of black men like LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony are drug through the mud, and people like Dan Gilbert, Jim Dolan, and Phil Jackson are protected.

I'm so entrenched in BBall right now, I still want to hear more. PM it to me if you feel like expanding on what you couldn't say in the forums. I'm truly interested in hearing how deep your thoughts on this matter go. I know it involves lots of stuff that likely started looong before I was paying attention, so I would love to be caught up on it.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 30, 2017, 07:51:24 PM
Mavs beat the Spurs yesterday, and then for the first time this season, won on a game on the back of a back to back tonite against the Cavs.

Lebron sat out the last ~4minutes
Korver is terrible. LOL

it was 102 to 85 when garbage time started. don't mind the final score of 104-97.

I was disappointed though, as I didn't get to see hardly any of the game before Lebron sat, so I didn't see if there was a frustration or anger or any of that. He better hope they get that 2nd unit PG so he can rest once in a while, or i see many more loses coming for the Cavs.
Better hope the Celtics don't make a good trade.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: rygar on January 31, 2017, 08:44:48 AM
Hey BlackNMild,

I'm still working on your PM, it's getting into article-like length to keep all the moving parts coherently arranged, but LeBron touched on some of the issues last night. You have to read between the lines a bit, but you get the sense he wants to go at Barkley the same way McGee went at Shaq: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18589897/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-throws-gauntlet-charles-barkley-hater (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18589897/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-throws-gauntlet-charles-barkley-hater)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 31, 2017, 01:43:56 PM
LeBron can say whatever he wants about Barkley, but that don't make Barkley's comments wrong.

"Does he not want to compete" in reference to him feeling the need to go from the highest spending team in the NBA, to the by far and away highest spending team in NBA history just to add even more pieces to a team that won the championship just last year.

The whining and crying needs to stop. Lebron is an amazing talent on the court, and seemingly a very competent businessman off the court... But maybe not the best GM. He needs to figure out how to fix his team, but simply trying to buy your way to the promise land isn't very competitive.

Here's a list for comparative reasons
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2016-2017 NBA salaries

Rank   Team Salary
1   Cleveland Cavaliers   $128,699,407
2   Los Angeles Clippers   $116,237,542
3   Portland Trail Blazers   $112,823,449
4   Dallas Mavericks   $110,679,908
5   Memphis Grizzlies   $110,537,188
6   Detroit Pistons   $108,967,919
7   San Antonio Spurs   $108,059,787
8   Toronto Raptors   $106,742,969
9   Orlando Magic   $106,296,398
10   Washington Wizards   $103,616,690
11   New York Knicks   $103,614,716
12   Miami Heat   $101,575,441
13   Golden State Warriors   $101,239,340

Who should be arguing to spend more to be competitive probable isn't the already highest spending team that also happens to be the defending champions.
Lebron has talent, he just needs to help develop it.
I hope no other team helps them willingly.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: rygar on January 31, 2017, 03:46:49 PM
Barkley can't be wrong, but he can't be right either, and that's kind of the point. "Competitiveness" is a subjective designation that's ambiguously defined and can be tightly bound up with notions of masculinity. Barkley is essentially defaming LeBron's character, and has been doing so for a long time. But for what purpose? Pointing out Barkley's hypocrisy is not to refute his position, but to provide evidence that it is not based on principle. So if it's not on principle, then what's the agenda? Well maybe Barkley is literally paid to try to publicly humiliate any athlete the owners, GMs, and existing agents (who have long standing relationships with owners that outlive CBAs and individual client contracts) deem to be too upitty.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 31, 2017, 05:04:38 PM
Well, here are some words from Cleveland's own Tristan Thompson

"You can't go out there hoping somebody is going to walk through the door. Play with whoever the hell we got right now, and let's win some [expletive] games."

So it would seem that on a level, even his own team agrees with Barkley.
LeBron is whining and crying asking for help.... Um what about the rest of your team... They are standing right there... They can hear you.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2689443-lebron-james-public-comments-making-life-uncomfortable-for-cleveland-cavaliers.amp.html?client=ms-android-verizon

Help them get better, accept a few potential losses to include them in the lineup for playtime experience. Or ditch some to get some. But quit acting like a spoiled brat that didn't get his way just because your not winning every game. Spend less time in the office with the GM and more time on the court with your 2nd unit and bench.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: rygar on January 31, 2017, 06:37:21 PM
Yeah, we are are really coming from different places. I wouldn't think of describing what LeBron is doing as acting like a spoiled brat anymore than I would a GM lowballing a contract or trashing a player in arbitration.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 31, 2017, 09:48:17 PM
Yeah, we are are really coming from different places. I wouldn't think of describing what LeBron is doing as acting like a spoiled brat anymore than I would a GM lowballing a contract or trashing a player in arbitration.

The issue isn't that Lebron wants to find someone else to lead the team while he and Kyrie sit. It's that Lebron more or less signed off on roster and pay, Lebron more or less signed off on who got resigned, and who got let go, Lebron picked Kyle Korver and the got the GM who was already spending more than any other team in NBA History, to spend more to get him. Now Lebron was publicly mad that the GM wouldn't blindly just spend EVEN MORE, potentially dipping into the $100M Luxury tax range to chase even MORE talent. He belittles his team saying that there are only 3 worthy players on the team (Top Heavy!!) and that's why he needs help, and then he literally makes "bitch" moves to the media with all the whining and crying on and off the court.

He comes off as a spoiled brat. and I don't care if the GM promised to "spare no expense" to win championships. But there has to be a reasonable limit, and I think the GM has already surpassed that in an attempt to please GM Lebron.

Lebron has sufficient talent on his team (they are the defending NBA Champions afterall), they can't just keep swapping out potential for already established "stars". At some point you need to work with what you have and prove that you truly are the best. And buying in Korver has been pretty inefficient so far. I almost wish they would trade for Carmelo at this point, and I hope that doesn't work out so well for them either.


edit: (and because I'm doing all this talking about Lebron, there is no way I can't not bring up the Warriors :P: )
Oh, and there's "No Rivalry" but every action and reaction he makes is to hopefully get an edge over the Warriors.
While Lebron is out here killing himself trying do it all on his team, meanwhile Curry takes a back seat to allow KD to enter the fold (yeah I know, they added an established All-Star to the developed All-stars already on the team) and the Warriors out here having FUN, and EVERYONE is involved. They make it look so easy, and I know Lebron is jealous of that atmosphere, I mean because who wouldn't be?
GSW is the poster child for what every team wants. They may not all want to be GSW or play GSW's style, but they all want the entire team to be able to come out and fit like another cog in the machine and everyone just out there having fun, playing the game they love, and on top of it all WINNING.

edit: and Barkley responded:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWwa2y6baBQ
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: rygar on February 01, 2017, 02:57:21 AM
Lol! Krushrenda got me. I was confused as to who I was talking to this morning. I even questioned how I could have been so mistaken before signing off last night.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 01, 2017, 07:19:44 AM
I don't understand that response, unless you are trying to say that the issue to Lebron's problems is something deeper than on the court, in locker room, with front office, and the on air personalities "analysis" of those issues.

Which I'm sure you'll share in your PM, because I'm really curious to know what you think the whole picture is. I only really started actively following NBA games early last year, and would only passively check out highlights here and there for many years prior, so I haven't been following the politics and behind the scene stuff.

But what I do know is that what Barkley said, and what Lebron was specifically responding to, could have been worded better, but wasn't wrong.

Lebrons response may have been full of facts, but didn't actually address anything Barkley said. It was actually kind of a low blow response, that I am aware has been pent up from the many other criticisms from Barkley over the years that he never actually responded to, but as a response here, he might as well have said something about his momma. It was personal and irrelevant to the immediate criticism. BUT Barkley had it coming, and Lebron should have brought that to him probably a long time ago... Or just continue to ignore him.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 03, 2017, 11:14:01 PM
Christmas came late fellas!!

The Warriors waived Varejao's contract!!!!
I was beginning to think Santa didn't get my letter.

and the reason for the free'd up roster spot, we are pulling a D-League star up for a 10 day contract.
Briante Weber - who was not only the DL January player of the month, but just earlier this week was 1 steal shy of setting a DL record of the 1st ever *Legit* Quadruple Double

*Not a Westbook Triple Double (10+ pts, reb, asst, and turnovers)


that tidbit is all I know about the cat.
Hopefully is as as good/effective as Yogi has been so far for the Mavs. (32pt w/ nine 3's vs Portland)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on February 06, 2017, 04:50:13 PM
Varejao was pretty done last season, It was pretty crazy that wasn't even getting minutes with Zaza injured. But then he got minutes on his last game and he quickly showed why he wasn't playing. I feel gutted that he didn't get his ring (even though he should have just taken the one Cleveland offered) but it was obvious he wasn't going to be able to contribute at a high level.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 06, 2017, 07:19:10 PM
Varejaos last have as a warrior was hard to watch. He absolutely sucked the energy out if the game to the point where I think they started taking commercial breaks while he was in the game just to make things go by quicker.

I'm so happy he is gone. He was not a fit for our team. Hope he saved his money, or joined LeBron's investment club. I doubt another team will be picking him up.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: rygar on February 09, 2017, 04:35:13 AM
In my head I know Patrick Ewing should be my favorite player, but it's honestly always been Oak. Shame Jim Dolan wasn't in reach. Apparently he got Oakley ejected because Oakley was being critical of Dolan's twenty year reign of error:


John McEnroe looked worried, lol:

Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 09, 2017, 05:55:36 PM
He want just ejected, he had him (or he ended up getting) arrested didn't he?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Shaymin on February 09, 2017, 07:26:54 PM
He did, but I wonder if there's a jury in the tri-state area that'll convict him.

Also, the Knicks were like "We hope Charles gets help" - is it bad that I'm thinking if he came back with "help" Dolan would flee the country?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: rygar on February 09, 2017, 08:26:08 PM
You can see the uniform cop was talking to him and Oak was beginning to comply and that's when the security guards start getting all grabby and escalated the situation. I think the tresspass will go away and the assaults are all summary offenses. They gave him a desk appearance ticket which means he has a date to come to court and didn't even process him through the system. I hope this lights a fire under Knicks fans to make it very uncomfortable for Dolan to enjoy those courtside seats.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on February 09, 2017, 08:32:31 PM
I do enjoy Knicks PR seizing the opportunity to stoke the flames on something other than their putrid on-court product.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 09, 2017, 08:33:30 PM
anyone see Lebron's "no contact missed dunk Bellyflop seal slide begging for a foul" during their loss to OKC tonight!?

OMG LOL.
cash me inna minit, imma find it ousside this forum right quick.
look for a edit


edit:


and broadcast on National Television.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on February 11, 2017, 08:45:05 PM
http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/friendship-1792264563 (http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/friendship-1792264563)

You gotta love Enes Kanter jawing and acting like a total heel manager as Westbrook returns to the bench for a timeout, down 18 points.

The Warriors have publicly humiliated the Thunder in all 3 meetings this season. Durant has scored 39, 40 and 34 in the 3 meetings and I can't get enough of it because OKC still acts like they're on equal footing.

And just for good measure, an eff you three pointer if there's ever been one.

Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 11, 2017, 10:44:54 PM
http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/friendship-1792264563 (http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/friendship-1792264563)

You gotta love Enes Kanter jawing and acting like a total heel manager as Westbrook returns to the bench for a timeout, down 18 points.

The Warriors have publicly humiliated the Thunder in all 3 meetings this season. Durant has scored 39, 40 and 34 in the 3 meetings and I can't get enough of it because OKC still acts like they're on equal footing.

And just for good measure, an eff you three pointer if there's ever been one.


I remember telling Kanter to go sit his dumb ass down before another chair breaks his other hand.

And Roberson had the nerve to talk **** to KD after GOAL TENDING his layup LOL.
what a bunch of losers. Acting like he blocked the shot and had something to talk about.

Lucky Dray already got too many techs and extra lucky Zsasz Pachulia wasn't in the game tonite. I was really hoping this would be his return game, so Westbrook could attempt to make good on his promise to get revenge.

Maybe next time. We got one more against them on their home court this season - March 20th.
I'm hoping we absolutely blow them the **** out next time around.

Steph was close to a triple double and so was Draymond this game.
hopefully next time around they can both hit that, KD can go off and some sort of new record gets set (most 3's by a team in a single game?).
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: nickmitch on February 12, 2017, 09:43:16 AM
anyone see Lebron's "no contact missed dunk Bellyflop seal slide begging for a foul" during their loss to OKC tonight!?

OMG LOL.
cash me inna minit, imma find it ousside this forum right quick.
look for a edit


edit:


and broadcast on National Television.

As funny as LeBron missing a dunk and riding the court like a Slip 'n Slide is, those camera people sit way too close to the court.  It's worse in the playoffs, but it still bugs me how close people get.  It just doesn't look safe.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 12, 2017, 10:45:52 AM
As funny as LeBron missing a dunk and riding the court like a Slip 'n Slide is, those camera people sit way too close to the court.  It's worse in the playoffs, but it still bugs me how close people get.  It just doesn't look safe.

This I agree with. players are running in to them far too often for the league to not see it as a safety concern... but all the stadiums are already build, and those front row ticket prices are way too nice to give them to the press and other such camera people.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: nickmitch on February 12, 2017, 12:17:35 PM
The worst is during the finals when people are literally sitting on the freaking court.  And then commentators complain when players aren't "trying as hard as they used to".
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on February 16, 2017, 06:12:38 AM
Last night was just -chef's kiss- beautiful. Specially JaVale and that final fast break dunk...


Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 16, 2017, 08:32:55 PM
Last night was just -chef's kiss- beautiful. Specially JaVale and that final fast break dunk...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCYF3xbL1pQ

the video has been removed, but outside of Curry's missed 3, that whole run was a thing of beauty.
capping it off with the lob that McGee turned into a THUNDEROUS dunk was just icing on top of the Cupcake.

what was it, like 28-4 run, and for most of it, Sac didn't score a basket for almost 5 minutes. It was just a soul crushing run. reminded me of last season for a moment. Hope we see more of that intensity consistently after the All-Star break, and ALL through the payoff AND Finals.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Adrock on February 20, 2017, 07:05:32 PM
During these uncertain times, it's reassuring that the Sacramento Kings are still a terrible organization run by people who have no idea what a basketball is.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on February 20, 2017, 07:39:43 PM
Value Divac is so bad. Anyone with rudimentary knowledge of Franchise Mode in 2k17 can probably do a better job as GM than him.

I feel bad for Buddy Hield. Dude's career is probably in the toilet now all because Vivek Ranadive has some insane, unrealistic expectations of him.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Shaymin on February 21, 2017, 08:09:38 AM
NBA 2k17 won't even let you make the trade. (http://kotaku.com/demarcus-cousins-trade-was-so-shitty-nba-2k17-wont-let-1792570009)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: nickmitch on February 22, 2017, 10:57:04 AM
Value Divac is so bad. Anyone with rudimentary knowledge of Franchise Mode in 2k17 can probably do a better job as GM than him.

I feel bad for Buddy Hield. Dude's career is probably in the toilet now all because Vivek Ranadive has some insane, unrealistic expectations of him.

Buddy even named his dog Nola, in honor of the city.  Losing him kinda stung, and I know some fans who don't feel comfortable losing draft picks and Buddy for a guy who could walk at the end of the season.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 22, 2017, 05:18:07 PM
he's under contract for 1.5 years.
He's also good friends w/ A. Davis and sounded very enthusiastic about NOLA at his press conference today. Something about it being "meant to be", and "seeing the signs". He talked about how he and Davis complement each other's game and how the potential is "scary", so it could be interesting. I just hope that should they make 8th seed, the Warriors shut them down in 5 or less games.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: nickmitch on February 22, 2017, 08:56:00 PM
For whatever reason, I thought his contract was up this year.  That makes me feel better about the deal.  Climbing to the 8th seed would be a pyrrhic victory at best.  Hopefully they can fill some other needs for when the Warriors collapse when they finally have to pay Steph.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on February 23, 2017, 04:27:42 AM
Vivek may have committed tampering when he told Buddy Hield "we're still gonna get you" when the Kings played the Pelicans during the regular season. Because of course he would.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 24, 2017, 05:24:42 PM
Looks like Shaq took his Shaqtin a little too far in his infatuation w/ Javale McGee
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18759654/golden-state-warriors-asked-turner-sports-address-shaquille-oneal-criticism-javale-mcgee (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18759654/golden-state-warriors-asked-turner-sports-address-shaquille-oneal-criticism-javale-mcgee)

long story short, he keeps bringing up Javale even when he didn't do anything.
he just this week dropped a Doctor Strange McGee video singling out McGee mistakes
and once again McGee confronts Shaq online to chill the **** out, but Shaq responds w/ threats of violence.


Today Durant and Kerr both came to Javale's defense, and Shaq told KD to stay out of it.


Now I love Shaqtin a Fool as much as anyone, but his obsession w/ Javale is just weird. I know he feels Javale "disrespected" him in his response to constant beratement, but Shaq comes across as a disillusioned Bully in the situation.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 11, 2017, 11:25:21 AM
Some NBA protest is going down right now. This **** is crazy.

Warriors vs Spurs tonight on ABC

Kawhi is out on concussion protocol from loss in game vs OKC

Warriors lose another on a bad road trip, and Kerr decides to rest some players in protest of terrible scheduling and BULLSHIT refereeing.
Curry, Klay, Dray and Iggy all sit out for game tonight vs Spurs.

so this morning it's announced that LaMarcus Alridge is out indefinitely due to heart arrhythmia.
and I guess just now it was announced that Tony Parker and Dejounte Murray are also resting for the Spurs.

So tonight has become a game of Bench and Roleplayers for primetime NBA on ABC.

there is no way something doesn't come of this right?
San Antonio fans must be pissed, ABC must be mad, and Adam Silver has got to be drafting up some anti-resting rule changes for the league as we speak, right?




*
the scheduling has to do with flying back and forth cross country for road games, especially when they are back to back games.
and the referee complaint is plain as day obvious if you just watch the last game vs Timberwolves.


The Timberwolved had a foul to give, and purposely kept fouling step to "give the foul" and the refs just wouldn't call it. Steph ended up making a layup, pissed for a no call, stole the ball, made another, and then tried to steal again before being called for a foul himself. so obviously the refs whistles were swallowed


The same thing happened again later in the game. and usually always against Steph.
I really just don't understand how hard or blatant you have to foul the guy for him to get a foul called.
It's amazing when he makes the shot/layup anyway, but it's still bullshit that just because he still showed a high percentage chance at making the shot, they just refuse to blow the whistle.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 07, 2017, 09:43:31 PM
Russel Westbrook is now the 1st person in 55 years to average a triple double for the season, and the 2nd person in NBA history to have 43(?) triple doubles in a season.

He didn't get one tonight, but watching him give up on the game and just try to get 2 more assist was quite funny and sad as Booker and the Suns denied him at every opportunity...w/ an assist from Adams (on OKC) who refused to either take an assisted shot or make one. LOL

you got 3 more games Russ, you averaging a triple double in at least every other game. I'm sure you'll get the record.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 09, 2017, 04:56:38 PM
Crazy BBall day today.

yesterday Durant returns, good game. expected Warriors win 14 game win streak leading up to the Playoffs. 13 of them w/o Durant.

But today, The Cavs lose to the Hawks after being up 26pts in the 4th Qtr.
Hawks sub in the 2nd squad, who was responsible for the 114-100 win against the Cavs on Fri in Cleveland. Todays game they came back w/ 44pts in the 4th to Cav's 18, tied the game for OT.
Lebron fouls out in OT, Love almost fouled out, but they reversed the call. Lue benches him anyway.
Kyrie hits a clucth buzzer beater 3, but it was too late as the Cavs lost by 1 pt.
I don't know how the Cavs managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of Victory, but they did it!!!
Congrats Lebron, you must be proud.

Then Russel Westbrook manages to get his Triple Double Record after failing to force about 1 dozen assist. and thankfully it finally happened when he decided he needed the win more than the record, because as soon as he got it, he was able to focus on scoring. After a minor ref assist (flagrant foul + tech on Jokic) gave WB an extra point and the ball back, WB carried on to score the final 15 point for OKC including a last second buzzer beater 3 that gave OKC the 1pt lead and the win.

I don't know if that boost his campaign for MVP, but it was pretty impressive once he stopped chasing the record how he got his team the win.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on April 12, 2017, 09:37:43 PM
FINALLY. SEASON IS OVER. BRING ON THE PLAYOFFS!


Really feel bad about the Heat. Erik Spoelstra is legit one of the 5 best coaches in the league. To go 30-11 with that terrible roster after starting 11-30 says a lot.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 13, 2017, 06:42:35 PM
They only needed the Hawks to shut down the Pacers, and the 8th seed was there's for the taking.
and it would have been so glorious as that would've put the Cavs vs the Bulls, and they haven't beat the Bulls all season long.

Warriors were looking in ACE condition tonight (outside of Klay) everyone was having a great game.

I find it so funny that everyone was saying that the Cavs were coasting... not caring about the regular season, etc etc etc.
Just because Lebron gave up at the end because he was frustrated that his team couldn't get it done, doesn't mean that he didn't lose twice the Hawks, playing FULL game minutes and still losing.

If he was coasting and not caring, he would have been sitting more and making his bench work w/o him win or lose. The narrative is such BS. And I honestly think he conceded 1st to the Celtics because he knew he didn't want to face the Bulls round 1. and if he could, I'm sure he would have conceded 2nd as well, as that would've eliminated any chance that he might have had to face the Heat too. But hopefully the Pacers give them a run for their money. and if they make it out of the 1st round, a playoff ready Raptors are waiting for them , then the finals could be challenging as well with a tested Hawks or Cavs ready Bulls.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 15, 2017, 02:55:55 AM
Playoffs 1st round are set... anyone care to predict the outcomes? best matchups? biggest upsets?

My personal belief is that Lebron tanked at the end, not only due to frustration, but to avoid the Bulls.
If it wasn't for the Hawks resting against the Pacers, the Cavs almost got the Bulls and the Celtics would have had to take the Heat. Might have had 2 major upsets in the 1st round LOL.

The Lineup look like this:
(http://i.imgur.com/zq7xRqH.png)

for the East
But I'm hoping that the TNT Bulls can give the Celtics a run for their money, if not an outright upset. Wade in playoff mode, Rondo in playoff mode, paired w/ Butler and boosted by the TNT broadcast in 3 of the first 4 games, 1 of which is in Chicago. You know this one has to go atleast 6.
I'm also hoping that the Pacers show up and give the Cavs more than they expected and at least take that series to 7. Lebron may be able to flip a switch, and Kyrie may be clutch as ****, but can the rest of the team keep up?
I expect Toronto to handle the Bucks and the The Wiz the handle the Hawks. nothing much to say on those 2 matchups.


for the West
Warrior sweep on Portland... maybe 5, but no more than 1 trip to Portland for sure.
Spurs v Grizz is surely gonna be a game of executed excellence, but an absolute BORE to watch. expecting scores to hit around 75-85 each. Spurs will come out on top.
Rockets v OKC is gonna be fun to watch, Battle of the "MVP's". All comes down to shots. If they hittin' Rockets win, otherwise Thunder moves forward. and a series to watch for sure will be the Clips v the Jazz.
I know we all want the Clips to fail yet again, but wouldn't be even better if they finally make it out of the 1st round, only to look up and see the Warriors waiting for them on the home court. Such the bitter sweet ending for the Clips. I look forward to it.


Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 15, 2017, 02:38:37 PM
We better not get 4 games of Cavs v Pacers like this one. Pacers could have and should have won this 1st encounter.they only needed to get it inside and draw a foul, hit some freethrows and that was game.

or if PG had just hit 1 more freethrow at the end, it would be in OT right now.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: nickmitch on April 15, 2017, 03:42:30 PM
I think it was a good defensively play. You don't let the best player shoot the game winner.  That's a solid strategy.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 15, 2017, 05:59:06 PM
Bucks with the first upset over the Raptors.
Giannis in beast mode.

And the Grizz doing all the can to keep the Spurs at bay.
I'm not expecting an upset here, regardless of how well the Grizz control the scoring flow of the game.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 15, 2017, 08:47:47 PM
welp, Memphis got stuffed and mounted above Pop's mantle. 30pt blow out. it started off well for the 1st half.

and the Clippers may have had a lucky break (pun intended) as Gobert goes down w/ a left knee sprain in the first 17 seconds of Game 1 of the playoffs.... it has yet to be seen if the Clips are determined to lose anyway though.
It's practically halftime right now and the Clips are down... so who knows.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on April 17, 2017, 10:13:57 PM
I have alerts from the Score on my phone. At one point tonight I looked down at my phone and saw that Cleveland was leading the Pacers 109-94 halfway through the 4th. Less than 15 minutes later my phone buzzes again to tell me the score is 109-104 with less than 2:30 remaining. If only Paul George had some help man. Cleveland can't keep a 4th quarter lead to save their lives.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Shaymin on April 18, 2017, 05:18:45 AM
Cleveland's efense can't stop me right now, full stop.

Also, Memphis's coach might want to start a GoFundMe after he tore the refs several new orifices last night.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 18, 2017, 07:11:37 AM
Cleveland's efense can't stop me right now, full stop.

Also, Memphis's coach might want to start a GoFundMe after he tore the refs several new orifices last night.

I bet he'd get more than enough to cover his fines, and any other fines he accrues over the next 2 games as well.
And if he promises to keep it up during the rest of the playoffs, like showing up to GSW post game press conferences to repeatedly call out **** like this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td7Z36BfU7U
I'm sure he'll raise enough to cover any fines for the rest of the playoffs, and earn himself a pretty penny on the side too. LOL

I might even donate. Someone needs to keep calling out the BS calls/no-calls that keep happening. If you gonna call it one way, call it the other way too, or just don't call it at all.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on April 20, 2017, 02:26:43 PM
It's official. JaVale McGee was a big factor in a Warriors playoff win.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 20, 2017, 05:24:24 PM
JAVAAAAAAALE McMVP!!!!

Bet Shaq ain't got **** to say. McGee is my favorite new Warrior of the season. I only knew of him from Shaqtin' a Fool previously, but he has been the most exciting part of the Warriors line-up when he comes in. part of my favorite lineup.

Curry, Klay, Dray, Iggy, McGee
or
Curry, Klay, Dray, Durant, McGee

any mix of Curry, Dray, and McGee works for me.
I love Klay, Iggy and Durant too, so when any mix of that 6, with the Core 3 out there, and there's potential for a good exciting game.


edit: Oh and the Cavs getting blown out in Indiana right now, and Chuck just admitted that the Warriors play good Defense. I know it was really hard for him to say something positive about the Warriors.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Adrock on April 21, 2017, 06:58:55 AM
And the Pacers lost.................

Paul George is going to look great in a Lakers uniform in 2018.

And just so we're clear, Paul George won't make the Lakers good if they don't do more than add one player (particularly if they subtract assets just to get him instead of waiting out a year). If you're going to be on a mediocre team, might as well be on Manhattan Beach while you're at it.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Shaymin on April 21, 2017, 07:12:04 AM
Meanwhile, in Milwaukee...

(http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 21, 2017, 05:00:36 PM
Meanwhile, in Milwaukee...

(http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif)

The Bucks brought them out to the Barney theme....

fucking BARNEY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftSSNVhRg2M&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftSSNVhRg2M&feature=youtu.be)
(http://i.imgur.com/8gkMCq8.jpg)

and the way the game turned out... it couldn't have been more hilarious and appropriate.


that double block double block (elbow then swat) by Giannis was just monstrous. that man is a long armed beast.


But today we find out that Rajon Rondo has a hairline fracture in his thumb, and hilariously, this is teh break that the #1 seed in the East needed to finally get an edge on the #8 seed in the East to maybe finally get their first win in this opening series. Lucky for the Celtics, this game also is not on TNT, so this is their chance.


edit: also looks like Westbrook may have won MVP
http://www.thedreamshake.com/2017/4/21/15378112/russell-westbrook-nba-mvp-james-harden-vote-tracking
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 22, 2017, 07:22:02 AM
I wanted to post this for those that haven't seen it
Game of Zones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EooT6gFzOxA&index=3&list=PLoqDIJHlyN3NIPW9D37rQEceGNZEiRmMX (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EooT6gFzOxA&index=3&list=PLoqDIJHlyN3NIPW9D37rQEceGNZEiRmMX)

this is the entire playlist, but the play list is backwards, so you need to start from the oldest vid at the bottom and work your way to the most recent at the top.

**** is pretty damn funny. NBA themed parody on Game of Thrones.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 22, 2017, 11:28:47 PM
Since this entire forum is dead, and now I'm just basically talking to myself I'll just celebrate over here that my Warriors are up 3-0 (came back from a 16 point deficit in the first half - JaMailman McMVP to the resue!!!)
The Grizz tied their series 2-2 (crazy game in the 4th and OT - Kawhi is not human)
The Hawks won one making their series 2-1  (Wall was the only Wizard to show up today)
and the Clippers won making it 2-1 in their favor (Griffin out w/ another post-season ending injury...)

Hopefully the Pacers can stay alive tomorrow (which sucks for them as they should be up 2-1 right now)
and the Bulls can win another against the Celts (would be 3-0 if Rondo hadn't hurt himself)
The Bucks need to annihilate the Raptors in their next game to take a 3-2 lead (todays game was terribad).
and last but not least, OKC needs another home victory to tie the series 2-2. WB may have won MVP for regular season (not confirmed yet) but he needs to stick it to Harden to solidify his case.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 23, 2017, 12:34:39 AM
All the sports threads on this site are 90% one person talking to themselves.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on April 23, 2017, 06:43:03 AM
This first round has been pretty butt really. A bunch of overmatched teams who have no shot at winning getting blown out pretty regularly and now everyone is starting to get injured. The dragged out nature of a 7 game series first round after the boring drag of March/April regular season basketball is not a good look for the league.


I wish I was more excited for the Warriors but I came into this postseason knowing Round 1 was pretty much a given. Nurkic made yesterday's game slightly more exciting but I knew GS had a run in them Portland would be unable to stop. Conference Semis is where I really start getting into it.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 23, 2017, 08:36:38 AM
Nurkic was not looking good. I know he broke his leg 3 weeks ago!!! but he was kinda hobbled out there and couldn't really jump or run. I know he provided a positive presence in the paint, and it was basically his last chance this season to make an impact for his team, but he was also a liability that Blazers were lucky that Warriors didn't try to fully exploit.
I fully expect him to NOT play the 4th game and risk further injury just to avoid a sweep, when the writing is already on the wall: The Blazers are not advancing.

The Grizz / Spurs game was crazy in the end. They were defenitely not getting ROOKED last night. Even though Kawhi went off in the fourth and OT basically carrying his team back from a double digit deficit, the Grizz just managed to stay 1 step ahead, as they had more than one player on the court. If someone could have gotten Kawhi that full synthetic oil a little sooner, it would have been 3-1 Spurs right now. I expect the next 2 games to be quite the match up over here. Not sure who is gonna win in the end, but I still favor the Spurs just because Kawhi is that good.

(http://i.imgur.com/8Rb6dQk.jpg)

Pretty much every East Conference game has been a snoozefest with a few highlight here, and a few highlights there.

as far as todays games go:

Cavs @ Pacers... I think we know the outcome. Cavs win the series in 4 or 5, either way who cares. Pacers had their opportunity to be up 2-1 on the Cavs and blew both chances. I've lost all faith in PG13 to pull out any meaningful win in this series. At this point, Lebrons end season concession is looking like some advanced chess move, but I would love to be wrong though.

Rockets @ Thunder - this is gonna be a battle royal. I still hate the game that Harden plays, and would love for WB to dominate the entire game, maybe even w/ another 40+ point triple double,  but if the rest of the Thunder don't show up and help, it's gonna be a lost cause for OKC.
The league really needs to address the issue that Harden is working so hard to draw attention to by absolutely abusing, the offense initiated contact to draw a foul. This really either needs to become a non-call or even better, an offensive foul, as that's exactly what it is.

Celtics @ Bulls - I'm pulling for the Bulls all day on this one. They may be a dysfunctional team, but Rondo will be back by game 5 or 6, and I know Lebron doesn't want to face them. Celtics just don't have what it takes to be a serious contender to anyone in a 7 game series, and it sucks what IT is going through, but they cannot present a serious threat to the Wiz or the Cavs, and certainly not the Spurs, Rockets or Warriors. TNTBulls at least stand a chance in the East against the top teams.

Clippers @ Jazz - Clippers are doomed if they do and doomed if they don't. But won't it be SO EXCITING to watch them get absolutely demolished by the Warriors in the 2nd round, especially knowing just how much they hate that team for being so damn good? The fireworks alone from the implosion of CP3 and DeAndre to the rest of the team, and Doc blowing up and the front office not knowing what to do, and the look on Blake Griffin's face when he realized he's about to be traded as the team is blown up in the off season. I don't know when Gobert will be back, but if it isn't this game, it will be the next. I know the Jazz don't want to go down 3-1 and have to defend their playoff existence back in LA, but Gobert isn't ready to play, do you risk injury for an all but guaranteed 1st round anyway just to bring him back today?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: nickmitch on April 23, 2017, 03:41:41 PM
LeBron sweeps and sets the record for most playoffs sweeps.

I agree that the 7 series might be too much.  Honestly, there's almost too much NBA.  Too many games don't really matter.  The shortened season from the lockout a few years back was one of the best because of how short it was.  I think the league would be better off going to that format permanently.  However, I don't think anyone involved in the decision making would vote for that.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 23, 2017, 09:12:13 PM
Pacers are garbage. PG is garbage. He had a press conference saying "I should get that last shot"
he got a gatorade commercial where he uses what looks like recent Lebron moments and attributed them to a commercial of "What if" it was Paul George instead. They gave him the last shot and he MISSED EVERYTHING.... it was hilariously sad.
swept for the first time in Pacers history, and they should have already been up 2-1 in the series. disappointing.

Bulls disappointed. They came back from down 15 or something, and made it a 1 point game to go right back down by 11 or something like that. I really don't see the lure of Jimmy Butler... I've tried, this is probably the 10th Bulls game I've watched this season, and I'm just not impressed by individually or the team as a whole (w/o Rondo). It doesn't help that IT ran game on these fools in the paint too.
I think the Bulls may still pull this one off, but the TNT Bulls is asteriks with *w/Rondo. Neither team has won a home game. so if that continues, that's in the Bulls favor. I personally don't care who wins, as either team will likely be smoked by The Wizards anyway. I was just pulling for the Bulls just incase they happened to keep it together and make it to the ECFinals.

I can't believe the Clippers chocked this one away in the final 4 minutes. Gobert was limited. Hayward **** himself in the locker room and got sent home and the Clips got schooled by Iso Joe in the final minutes of game 4. CP3 gotta be so damn frustrated.

and the Thunder... what can I say about this game other than Oladipo is a moron. OKC coach is a dumbass, and Roberson needs to figure out how he can shoot the 3 so well, but the free throw is apparently too difficult. Russ couldn't have done more to put his team in a position to win, and 2 people (Oladipo & the Coach) basically pissed it away in the final seconds of the game. This was very winnable, and Russ and Roberson are not the ones to blame.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on April 24, 2017, 09:04:25 AM
This was very winnable, and Russ and Roberson are not the ones to blame.

Nah, I'm totally blaming Westbrook for his piss-poor shot selection on those last 2 minutes. What we're seeing right now is the natural end-game of a team that chose to be carried by a single person. A team where the 4 other guys on the floor end up so demoralized by having to get carried that they can barely dribble a basketball it seems. Westbrook gets lauded for all the heroics, and he did a lot in those final minutes of Game 4. But he also:

- Ran into Nene and shot/flinged the ball resulting in a turnover. That was the end result of not really running a play and Houston's ball-denial on Russ.
- Bricked a 3 pointer. Ok fine, Houston couldn't get the rebound. OKC got it back
- He bricks another 3 pointer somehow making it look worse than the previous one because he was trying to get a call from the refs.
- After his heroic three pointer off the Adams FT miss, he immediately leaves his man to join a 4-1 quadruple team. As a result of this Trevor Ariza, who was THE GUY WHO THREW THE INBOUNDS PASS, slipped by everyone a caught Gordon's pass to set up a 2 on 1 with Nene against Steven Adams.
- Bricks a 3 pointer on a catch and shoot.
- Runs into Steven Adams and coughs up the ball. GAME OVER.

We can't laud Westbrook and then turn around and **** all over Oladipo, Donovan and the rest of the team for whatever happened. The team chose to defer to Russ all season and is now ill-prepared to compete in a 7 game playoff series. This should surprise no one.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 24, 2017, 06:35:21 PM
Nope. They all made mistakes, but the one that definitively cost then the game was coach not subbing out Roberson after the second foul when it became apparent that they were going to hack him for missed free throws. Not after the fourth.
Then Oladipo for not immediately fouling on that inbounds while the game was in reach. And then on whoever it was for touch fouling Nene on the layup when they should have hard fouled/wrapped him up, forcing only 2 free throws, and not an &1 situation putting the game out of reach.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on April 24, 2017, 07:26:38 PM
And Westbrook went 1/4 from 3 point range and had 3 turnovers in the last 2 minutes of the game. Regardless of what Oladipo or Jerami Grant did or did not do, it all falls on Westbrook when they lose, just like it all falls on him when they win. This is what he wanted to do this season.


Hell, Westbrook so into his attitude this year he doesn't even mind stealing questions meant for Steven Adams in the post game press conferences.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 24, 2017, 10:59:39 PM
LOL. I agree. But it's not his fault everyone one else on his team can barely create their own offense.
But his usage rate to have to distribute the ball when he is in does kill most chances for other players to get in any sort of rhythm.

But enough about Westbrick.

How bout dem WARRIORS!!!!
Holy **** this game.

I think it started out something like 29-4 in the first 7 minutes. Warriors ended up tying the Playoff record of 45 in the 1st all because Dray couldn't hit 1 of 2 free throws at the end of the quarter....
The Blazers were absolutely shook tho. They didn't know what to do, and the Warriors just came out so explosive that all the blazers were in shock. I don't think they got a shot of in the first 2 minutes of the game, and didn't actually score till the warriors were almost up by 20.
Dagger after dagger after dagger. First Durant w/ a 3, then Klay, the Dray, then Curry, then Dray again, then Klay again and then Curry again... and again and again. It was brutal. I almost felt bad for the Blazers, but no mercy in the playoffs.


I made this on my phone and put it up on my IG
(http://i.imgur.com/D2kg0oK.png)
so excuse the low quality and look of lack of effort. LOL




(http://i.imgur.com/0bZKtLa.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: nickmitch on April 25, 2017, 06:20:37 PM
The Westbrook conversation reminds me of the early LeBron days.  He still doesn't get credit for dragging a team of lifeless nobodies to the finals because he got swept in the finals.  But that's all he did during his first stint with the Cavs: drag lifeless nobodies through the playoffs.

Pardon the pun, but Paul George (who I'm just realizing has two first names) has had a bad break.  He got injured when his team was most competitive and now it feels like his career is reset.  I honestly hope he finds a new home where he can compete.  Kinda like how LeBron did.

Speaking of great players and bad teams, Westbrook gets props for staying in OKC, but he needs to go.  If only there was a team who could maybe take both?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 25, 2017, 07:38:27 PM
Maybe PG should go join the Wizards, or the Heat.
Westbrook.... Stay where he's at, get another all-star level ball handler, and a playmaker that can shoot.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on April 25, 2017, 08:13:04 PM
In the six minutes Westbrook spent resting on the bench tonight the Rockets outscored the Thunder 27-9. Ridiculously bad.


That being said, I don't know why anyone would want to join that tire fire in the offseason. Westbrook needs a change of scenery.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 25, 2017, 11:18:49 PM
I just don't see where he would go, and who would want him with his style of play.
He also seems pretty loyal to anchor tied to his ankle in OKC. He might try to triple double it one more year, and maybe get lucky on getting a vet or two before trade deadlines next year if they are in a position to make a playoff run again.

But OKC is out, but Harden got called on one of his bullshit offensive grabbing fouls.
Ref almost gave it to him, but then common sense overtook him and he called it an offensive foul. what a fucking relief. It ultimately didn't matter, but it's progress. I hope they keep nailing him on that **** everytime he tries to desperately pull it off.
 
Spurs are 1 away from moving on, but Conley and the Grizz put up a helluva fight. The next game is probably gonna be a good one. Maybe they'll move it to TNT and off of NBAtv so everyone can watch it.
and the Jazz are 1 away from moving on, but i'm not sure they are ready for what comes next.
CP3 refused to let his team die w/o a fight though. in the end Hawyard and Iso Joe just kept pouring it on. Whether it be in the next game or 2, or the 4 that come after that, there will be some fireworks in LA very soon. Loud Explosions stars flying everywhere. It's gonna be a sight to behold.


Tomorrow:

Hawks @ Wizards
Bulls @ Celtics

I see the Wiz taking gm5 and the Bulls taking gm5, but only time will tell.
Both series could go the full 7
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on April 26, 2017, 10:52:55 AM
I just don't see where he would go, and who would want him with his style of play.
He also seems pretty loyal to anchor tied to his ankle in OKC. He might try to triple double it one more year, and maybe get lucky on getting a vet or two before trade deadlines next year if they are in a position to make a playoff run again.


He played like this when Durant was with the team, I don't see why any vet would think this team would be good for a deep playoff run next year either.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: broodwars on April 26, 2017, 11:57:44 AM
Of course the Jazz would finally have a good season the year I have no means of actually watching any of their games. -_-

On a happy note, Chris Paul is continuing his streak of never getting a team to the Conference Finals. ^_^

(No, I'm not a CP3 fan. Just another overrated pretender to Stockton's legacy)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 29, 2017, 12:11:07 PM
Well, your Jazz failed to finish off the Clips in gm6, so now this series is the ONLY game 7 of round 1.
what's funny though is even though the Rockets Spurs and the Cavs Raptors could have started sooner, the Celts Wiz series starts tomorrow.
NO REST. LOL.
NBA gives no fucks. lol
I guess that's the reward for those that finished sooner, more rest.

My Warriors don't play again till Tuesday. as we are waiting on the sacrificial lamb of Jazzy Clips.
GO CLIPPERS!!!

Anyone care to make game by game predictions?

Sun: Wiz @ Celts game 1  // Jazz @ Clips game 7
Mon: Raps @ Cavs game 1  // Rockets @ Spurs game 1
Tues: Wiz @ Celts game 2*  // ? ? ? @ Warriors game 1


*need to see how gm1 turns out before predictions on gm2.

I'm betting on the
Wiz taking gm1
Clips taking gm7
Cavs taking gm1
Spurs taking gm1
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 29, 2017, 04:35:18 PM
Anyone care to make game by game predictions?

Sun: Wiz @ Celts game 1  // Jazz @ Clips game 7
Mon: Raps @ Cavs game 1  // Rockets @ Spurs game 1
Tues: Wiz @ Celts game 2*  // ? ? ? @ Warriors game 1


*need to see how gm1 turns out before predictions on gm2.

I'm betting on the
Wiz taking gm1
Clips taking gm7
Cavs taking gm1
Spurs taking gm1

I figured I would elaborate since I have a moment and wandered back here.

Wiz taking gm1 - I don't see the Celtics as particularly competitive. They happen to beat an 8th seed that lacked any energy or motivation to play after Rondo was sidelined. otherwise I think the Bulls may have taken it in 4. unfortunate Rondo got hurt. I feel if the Hawks had actually played for the win in the final game of the season and beat the Pacers, the Heat would have run the Celtics out the building in 4, and the Bulls would have won atleast the first game or 2 on the Cavs. Long story short, playoff Celtics have not impressed.

Clips taking gm7 - This is more hope than anything. Jazz are perfectly capable of taking out the Clips, but the Clips are capable of beating the Jazz as well. Gobert or no Gobert. Clips just seem like more fun in round 2 to me than the Jazz. Either team is headed for a hopeless 2nd round in 5 at most. Warriors are in playground mode right now, like they running game on the blacktop.

Cavs taking gm1 - The Raptors failed to impress me at any point during that Bucks series. Maybe the Bucks were just matching them up really good, but I saw little from Lowry, and if he isn't going to show up and leave it all up to Derozan, the Cavs aren't going to have too much trouble finishing this series in 5. Ibaka also needs to step his game up too. I'm hoping it's actually a much better match up than I'm picturing in my head, as the Raptors have been gearing up to beat the Cavs. I just hope they show up in a way that they didn't in the Bucks series.

Spurs taking gm1 - If the Rockets game is anything like in the OKC series, I don't expect them to get bailed out by 20+ missed freethrows and a few fake shooting offensive grabs from the 3pt line called as BS shooting fouls to give Harden or Williams 3 free shots. Spurs are too smart for that ****, and Harden got called for one in gm5 of the last series. I think the Refs may be tired of it too (thank gawd). Besides, Kawhi has been in beast mode offensively and defensively, and unless the Rockets are target locked from the outside, I think game 1 is home victory

Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: nickmitch on April 29, 2017, 07:50:40 PM
Round 2 starting Sunday with Round 1 still ongoing is fucking absurd.  Especially since the teams that swept (or are playing the teams that swept) are getting extra days.

I hope the NBA's efforts to fix their scheduling issues extends to the playoffs.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 29, 2017, 08:40:32 PM
The level of IDGAF when it comes to scheduling and refereeing in the NBA is quite hilarious in all the wrong ways.


Round 2 is officially set. Clippers make the expected early exit from the playoff, yet again.


Short thoughts on the Jazz @ Warriors gm1 - Jazz get no rest.. well Gobert got plenty of rest today having only played like 12 minutes before fouling out. LOL But coming in already warmed up, maybe even a little bruised up, vs a Warriors team that's been chillin', well rested and probably gambled on watching nothing but Jazz tape this past week knowing that the Clips weren't gonna make the cut, I don't see this going the Jazz way, as the only things that seems to stop the warriors is themselves. The Warriors are focused and ready to play, while the Jazz barely get a moment to breathe... at least they were already in California, so travel shouldn't be too much of an issue.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: broodwars on April 30, 2017, 11:07:59 PM
As a Jazz fan, look...we know this round is the end, but this is much-needed experience for a team that hasn't been in the playoffs since none of the current team were here. They weren't even supposed to beat the Clippers, so they're just happy to be there at this point. That said, the Jazz are never an "easy out" in the playoffs, as the Warriors saw their "Cinderella year". The Jazz will go down fighting, probably in 5-6 games.


The most important thing here is that Chris Paul still can't lead a team in the playoffs. :P
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 01, 2017, 05:59:24 PM
I dunno man... I'm sure the Jazz won't go down easy, but I expect the Dubs to "son" the Jazz much like the Cavs are doing to the Raptors right now.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: broodwars on May 01, 2017, 08:49:33 PM
I dunno man... I'm sure the Jazz won't go down easy, but I expect the Dubs to "son" the Jazz much like the Cavs are doing to the Raptors right now.

Ate you seriously comparing a series between 2 Eastern Conference teams & one between 2 teams from the BESTern Conference? :P Seriously, you aren't gift-wrapped a playoff appearance in the Western Conference, so I have a bit more faith that this match might be a TAD better than the usual Eastern Conference browbeating.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 01, 2017, 09:06:07 PM
I'm taking these series 1 game at a time.
I'm expecting the series to maybe go 5, and several of the games to be close.

But if it makes you feel better, the Warriors will treat the Jazz only slightly better than the pants down ass beating the Rockets gave the Spurs tonight....

Jazz come in consensual to their spanking, and we are even nice enough to give them a safe word. Just remember to play like you don't want it, as it's no fun when it's easy. ;)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 02, 2017, 11:44:31 PM
See, I told you we'd be gentle. It wasn't a rough ride, even if Curry had to make Gobert dance like a marrionette, Just 3 more games, and it will all be over. ;) :P

but on to the more interesting of the 2 games today..... I can't believe The Wiz blew that late 4th quarter lead, then miss the 2 game winning shots, and then got shut down by Isiah in OT.
and IT almost knocked his replaced tooth back out. LOL.
If the Celtics make it to the Finals, there is an underdog movie getting made on ABC or Lifetime about this Celtics team. The Wiz had this ****... or so it looked. But you could have said the same thing in the 1st game halfway through the 1st quarter.

So... who's got the Raps winning a game against the Cavs?
who's got the Spurs putting the hurt on the Rockets next game?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: broodwars on May 09, 2017, 04:18:46 AM
*sigh* Oh well. The Jazz still had a great season after 5 years in the cellar rebuilding, and they'll be back here if they keep building on this team. At least they made Golden State earn it for 3/4 of the games.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 09, 2017, 07:30:34 AM
I commend the Jazz for not acting like quitters after game 1, or after each 1st quarter like the Raptors. Hayward is as good player, and has a bright future. This team will be back in the playoffs next year if Hayward sticks around.
What was up with Gobert cutting that old Warriors W logo into his hair for game 3 & 4?

My only gripe with the Warriors in that series is that Durant refused to take it to Gobert down low. Kept throwing up soft shots to get blocked in the paint. Meanwhile Curry, Dray, Iggy and McGee were all happy to take it strong inside.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Adrock on May 09, 2017, 07:34:20 AM
The Jazz lost by an average of 15 points. Sure, the last game skewed the average upward, but the Jazz still lost each of the first three games by over 10 points. The Jazz were competitive, but I never thought the Warriors were in danger of losing any of those games.

The Jazz are in that weird treadmill mode. They're a good team with good players, but they aren't touching the Warriors, Spurs, or even the Rockets (if they manage to keep playing like Better 2007 Phoenix Suns). On top of that, isn't Gordon Hayward an unrestricted free agent? If he leaves, the Jazz may be trending downward for at least a couple years.

That's one of my issues with the NBA. At any one time, there are ever only three or four teams with a reasonable chance to win the championship. We're probably getting the third straight year of Warriors vs Cavs. Next year, we're probably getting another Warriors vs Cavs series. I actively dislike the Cavs, mostly because Dan Gilbert is a fucking wiener. At some point, I'm going to get tired of seeing the Warriors win all the time.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 09, 2017, 08:36:57 AM
The Jazz lost by an average of 15 points. Sure, the last game skewed the average upward, but the Jazz still lost each of the first three games by over 10 points. The Jazz were competitive, but I never thought the Warriors were in danger of losing any of those games.

The Jazz are in that weird treadmill mode. They're a good team with good players, but they aren't touching the Warriors, Spurs, or even the Rockets (if they manage to keep playing like Better 2007 Phoenix Suns). On top of that, isn't Gordon Hayward an unrestricted free agent? If he leaves, the Jazz may be trending downward for at least a couple years.

That's one of my issues with the NBA. At any one time, there are ever only three or four teams with a reasonable chance to win the championship. We're probably getting the third straight year of Warriors vs Cavs. Next year, we're probably getting another Warriors vs Cavs series. I actively dislike the Cavs, mostly because Dan Gilbert is a fucking wiener. At some point, I'm going to get tired of seeing the Warriors win all the time.

But that time hasn't come yet.
I think the bigger problem is the defeatist attitude from teams like the Raptors that think they are never gonna win against LeBron and may even think of migrating to the West because they wouldn't have to face him... :/
Did you see the comments from Derozan and Lowry?

The East needs to get it together. Celtics and Wizards are the type of attitude these other East teams need to take. Wiz thinks they are the best team in the NBA, ave The Celtics think they have the best underrated player on the court.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: nickmitch on May 09, 2017, 08:15:20 PM
I wonder if people felt this way during the Jordan era.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 10, 2017, 12:18:04 AM
I wonder if people felt this way during the Jordan era.

They were actually talking about this yesterday on TV and Radio saying there a reason so and so, and people like Chuck never got a ring.... Jordan.

I'm sure some felt the same way about Kobe, and then now Lebron.

But no one is stopping them from taking less money and making a move to , or recruiting some talent to challenge the King of the East.
Running the West certainly isn't the answer, as then you have to face The Dubs, The Spurs & The Rockets. At least in the East there is only one main obstacle, and if you can figure out how to minimize the impact of 1 person, you have a chance to minimize the impact of the entire squad he rolls with.... not so much the case at least with the Warriors.

Things could have been more interesting if the Blazers didn't face the Warriors first round.
Rondo didn't get injured, and the Heat made the 8th seed instead of the Pacers making the 7th.
Actually, if we could have bounced them shook ass Raptors out of the playoffs all together, eveything would have been better in the East.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: rygar on May 10, 2017, 03:49:47 AM
The East has been largely terrible for twenty years now. A trifecta of poor ownership, a hard cap, and guaranteed contracts make it nearly impossible for teams to improve. With the exception of a year or two, professional basketball has been particularly dreadful in the Northeast.

There's been some bad luck too. San Antonio was allowed to get away with tanking the season when David Robinson and Sean Elliot went down injured early and they ended up stealing Tim Duncan from the three slot in the lottery. Little things like that have long term effects on parity when you have a hard cap/guaranteed contracts.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: nickmitch on May 10, 2017, 10:04:50 AM
I wonder if people felt this way during the Jordan era.

They were actually talking about this yesterday on TV and Radio saying there a reason so and so, and people like Chuck never got a ring.... Jordan.

I'm sure some felt the same way about Kobe, and then now Lebron.

But no one is stopping them from taking less money and making a move to , or recruiting some talent to challenge the King of the East.
Running the West certainly isn't the answer, as then you have to face The Dubs, The Spurs & The Rockets. At least in the East there is only one main obstacle, and if you can figure out how to minimize the impact of 1 person, you have a chance to minimize the impact of the entire squad he rolls with.... not so much the case at least with the Warriors.

Things could have been more interesting if the Blazers didn't face the Warriors first round.
Rondo didn't get injured, and the Heat made the 8th seed instead of the Pacers making the 7th.
Actually, if we could have bounced them shook ass Raptors out of the playoffs all together, eveything would have been better in the East.

I dunno.  I think the other rounds of the playoffs were pretty good aside from the two dominant forces.  The first round had 1 seven game series, 4 six game series, a 5 gamer, and two sweeps.  We're looking at 2 series going at least six and 2 sweeps.

People act like the playoffs are boring, but really it's just no one cares about anyone other than the two powerhouses.  Plus, how exciting would it be if both teams swept the entire playoffs for an epic rematch?

LeBron has a few years left, but that Warriors team has even fewer.  Once it's time for Steph to get paid, they'll have to make some potentially drastic moves.

The East has been largely terrible for twenty years now. A trifecta of poor ownership, a hard cap, and guaranteed contracts make it nearly impossible for teams to improve. With the exception of a year or two, professional basketball has been particularly dreadful in the Northeast.

There's been some bad luck too. San Antonio was allowed to get away with tanking the season when David Robinson and Sean Elliot went down injured early and they ended up stealing Tim Duncan from the three slot in the lottery. Little things like that have long term effects on parity when you have a hard cap/guaranteed contracts.

Are you referring to the salary cap?  I thought it was a soft cap with the luxury tax?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: rygar on May 10, 2017, 10:22:25 AM
You are correct. What I meant was a hard ceiling on salary. There is none in baseball, the luxury tax just goes 1 to 1 above a certain level (I believe).

Edit: or put another way, the softness of the cap is just the additional amount the team can go over and pay luxury tax on, but there is an eventual limit on salary. So, for example, the Knicks can't just eat Noah's wages. The contract will still factor into their overall limits on player compensation.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 10, 2017, 12:49:29 PM
I'm enjoying most of the playoffs, but that doesn't mean that even if we shuffled a few teams around, some of those other teams wouldn't have met the same fate as the other teams that fell already.

I'm hopeful on the Wizards v Cavs to be competitive, and I still think the Celts are a weak #1 that should've be down 3-1 if not already swept by the Wiz, and that's if they didn't get originally swept by the 8 seed Bulls if Rondo didn't get hurt.

All what if's at this point, but the Heat, the Wiz, the Raptors and the Cavs were 4 teams I expected great things out of. 1 didn't make the cut, the other never showed up, and the last 2 are hopefully about to face off.
I don't think the Cavs are invincible in the East, but they need a team that's not afraid to take it to them, really good at scoring at will, and can defend not just LeBron, but the perimeter and the paint, all at the same time with some consistency.
I think the Wiz is our only hope at a good series for the ECF.
Playoff Bron and the boys will abuse the poor Celtics. They aren't ready for all that.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: nickmitch on May 12, 2017, 06:19:59 PM
Personally, I think the NBA salary caps are kind of a joke.  People always complain they're pointless, but I think they've always been too low to be effective.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: broodwars on May 13, 2017, 10:44:43 PM
Personally, I think the NBA salary caps are kind of a joke.  People always complain they're pointless, but I think they've always been too low to be effective.

I think the fact that the Warriors went 72-9 last season and STILL had the money to buy Durrant pretty much makes that clear. Unfortunately, 2-3 teams just buying 90% of the talent in the league has been an issue for decades, and big market teams can just eat the luxury tax so THAT'S a joke. Makes it near-impossible for small market teams to stay competitive.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 13, 2017, 11:40:54 PM
But the Warriors stayed UNDER the salary cap, and still had room to get Durant.
Warriors didn't buy up all the talent, they drafted most of it and picked up people like Curry on the cheap after injury.

The Cavs on the other hand went WAAAAY over the cap, and into the Luxury tax to get the firepower they have now. The Warriors got lucky in acquisitions and development, and then luring Durant to put them over the top... of the top....

Teams NY and LA are the ones that usually get to keep pushing salary caps and make it up in the Luxury through income of being in a larger market.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/

but long story short, GSW didn't buy all their talent.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: rygar on May 14, 2017, 04:41:33 AM
The NBA CBA is extremely complicated as Nick Mitch pointed out when he corrected my "hard cap" comment. (With some simplification) the amounts of contracts are relatively predictable because salaries are slotted by years of service. Part of the reason the Warriors could sign Durant is that Curry hasn't "earned" a max contract (let alone his second) yet. Curry may end up the highest paid player in NBA history this summer given the timing of his contract renewal, the new media deal, and the new CBA that will allow GS to offer a substantially higher salary than competitiors. Their payroll won't get really complicated until it's time for Durant or his replacement to resign. There is a essentially a Stephen Curry exemption in the new CBA that allows teams to give up to 35% of the cap to a player if they meet certain criteria. It's specifically designed to incentivize superstars to sign with the team they drafted.

I haven't seen any evidence of small market teams not being able to compete on base payroll, and I don't think I'd believe it even if I saw it. The national media deal alone is worth 2.6 billion annually. Small market teams' recruiting struggles are with lower off-court revenue opportunities and lifestyle offerings. That's part of the reason teams are allowed to pay over the salary bands to resign players they have had under contract for a certain number of years.

I specifically didn't use the word "unfair" in my post because I didn't want to go down a subjective rabbit hole. Fans in small market teams have good arguments about ensuring access to the best talent and fans in large market teams have good arguments that by having salary without corresponding price controls, they are effectively subsidizing the entertainment choices of small market fans. However, it doesn't seem controversial to suggest that the CBA is a major impediment to teams in the East from improving, since the whole point of it is to keep the Atlantic division teams from being able to just buy their way out of their mistakes. And because the contracts are garaunteed, those mistakes reverberate for years.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 14, 2017, 08:45:38 AM
Sounds like smarter people need to make smarter choices when it comes to contracts ;)
I know a lot of it is getting lucky, as no one knows the future, but on the other hand, good on the players for "getting theirs" while they have the chance.

and I know Durant wanted to come to GSW for several reasons, some of which had to do with off the court brand/wealth expansion opportunities. Bay Area is a tech capital for the US/World, so many opportunities for start ups, endorsements, general connections around many different industries.
For as much flack as KD got, I'm sure 70% of the major stars in the NBA would have taken the same deal if offered, so they can all hate if they want to, but the game is business, and the business is a game. Either way you got to play to win.


Game in 4hrs. I'm excited and ready to get this **** started. LOL

Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: nickmitch on May 14, 2017, 11:23:19 AM
Steph Curry is making less than JR Smith this season.  Not to undermine JR Smith's abilities, but that's kinda absurd.  Also, Golden State is paying the luxury tax (http://www.spotrac.com/nba/golden-state-warriors/cap/).

I don't think smaller market teams are unable to compete because of the caps, but the draft being a lottery means they need to tank and get lucky (admittedly, odds improve with tanking) to get the pick and hope the pick works out to be competitive long-term.  But whenever people talk about getting rid of it, I think the smaller market teams would be the ones hurt most for reasons Rygar said.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: rygar on May 14, 2017, 01:47:30 PM
That's interesting. I knew teams tanked in the short term, and there's the absurdity of the Sixers, but I never considered the long term effects on the conference when so many teams are incentivized to tank year-after-year.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: nickmitch on May 14, 2017, 03:10:11 PM
It's not just the conference, it's the league as a whole.  In order to be competitive, you have to get lucky twice and play the long game, OR play free agency.  Without salary caps, teams could pay "max" salaries to as many players as they wanted.  So, then you get teams that are hot right now (Golden State, Cleveland), teams in big markets (LA, NYC), and teams in attractive cities (Miami) pulling all the talent.  Teams still stuck in the long game risk bankruptcy as they lose season ticket holders due to losing seasons (Philly), and teams in less-than-attractive cities (Milwaukee, Minnesota) won't ever get top talent as a lot of players would probably take pay cuts to live elsewhere or compete for titles.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: rygar on May 14, 2017, 03:22:56 PM
I'm applying the principle backwards. The original point I'm focusing on is the long term futility of the Eastern Conference and how it seems a somewhat insoluble problem.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: nickmitch on May 14, 2017, 03:24:42 PM
Oh, ok.

Well, LeBron has to retire at some point, so there's that.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: rygar on May 14, 2017, 03:40:51 PM
Lol, I'm not sure I should want that. The Knicks aren't good enough for it to matter and the Eastern Conference is essentially a B league without LeBron.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Adrock on May 17, 2017, 06:26:41 AM
Without Kawhi Leonard and Tony Parker, the Spurs got worked.

The Celtics got the top pick in the draft because Danny Ainge is an actual wizard and managed to trade their aging core to the Nets for three unprotected first round draft picks, some players (a few of whom aren't even in the league anymore), and the right to swap picks in 2017. It may have been unethical for Ainge to take advantage of the compromised mental faculties of Billy King who one can only surmise must have sustained brain trauma prior to agreeing to that deal in 2013. It's important to note that the Celtics get another unprotected Nets pick next year, the last of that trade.

RIP Nets
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Shaymin on May 17, 2017, 09:19:23 AM
The continued owning of Russians in sports never ceases to amuse me.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 18, 2017, 06:51:38 AM
So, LeBron, how do you feel about the Celtics series so far...?
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h204/killer-ra/Kang.jpg~original)

So how would you sum up last nights game?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAFFMDIVYAQxTzt.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: nickmitch on May 18, 2017, 08:09:07 AM
LeBron has almost a 1ft advantage over IT.  Dude needs to to stay in his lane.

Seeing that play in motion is hilarious too.  IT basically just runs at him.  LeBron doesn't make the shot, so mission accomplished?  (He makes both subsequent free throws.)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 18, 2017, 10:25:59 AM
IT got heart, as he's putting in that effort, but they were all terrible last night.

Cavs were kinda rusty just life the Warriors were, so if Celtics were gonna bring it, last night was their best window of opportunity secure a win and break the Cavs streak.
Not sure it won't be a sweep at this point, but Cavs are on cruise control right now, so maybe the Celtics can still surprise them ave sneak out a win tomorrow.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Adrock on May 20, 2017, 06:53:10 AM
Peas and rice, Boston. Did you even try?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 20, 2017, 11:35:51 AM
last nights game was so pathetic, that they should have suited up Shaq, Kenny, Charles, KG and whoever else they had on hand for an exhibition starting 5 just for the 4th Qtr. Then bring in some randoms from the fan pool in the bleachers to fill in the bench.

The Celtics have been retired.

Quote
(http://i.imgur.com/fRTednd.jpg)

or maybe the NBA should enact a tag-in mode, where if the winner of the previous competitive series happens to get "Rook'd" in the following series for the 1st 2 games, that their opponent from the previous series get tagged in to take their place.
basically, I'm just saying we should pull the Wizards of of vacation and send the Celtics fishing instead.

Cavs set several different team and NBA records last night at the the expense of the Celtics for allowing the Make A Wish foundation to assemble a team that resembled an #1 seed NBA team all dressed in green NBA authentic jerseys, and stuck them in an actual game on national television.


but onto other things....
Kawhi ain't playing today for the Spurs. If the Warriors attempt to respond to the Cavs at the expense of the Spurs tonight, I don't think Pop's will play Kawhi in game 4 either. no need to risk further injury just to maybe win 1 game. Will probably just let LMA get the last of his Spurs time on the court before being traded in the off-season. LOL
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Adrock on May 21, 2017, 08:11:17 PM
That's better, Boston. Lose your leading scoring and best player then somehow come back from a double-digit lead and win a game on the road. Lebron James won't always have games like this so enjoy it while you can.

The Cavs are going to win this series, but if the Celtics can extend the series while the Warriors finish off a limping Spurs team, I may get what I want from the Finals: Golden State steamrolling Cleveland for no other reason than last year's Finals were a goddamn joke.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on May 22, 2017, 08:44:00 AM
Cleveland as always can't keep up their end of the deal and give us 2 12-0 teams in the Finals. Figures...


JaVale McGee has now been a major factor in two Warrior victories this postseason. Me from 8 months ago would have said you were crazy if you told him that then.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: nickmitch on May 22, 2017, 04:56:56 PM
I checked Twitter when I woke up this morning and was so freaking confused.  I had opted to watch wrasslin' which I was sure would be the less predictable sporting event of the night.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 22, 2017, 09:50:53 PM
Warriors had to figure out how they were going to top last years season (24-0 start / 73-9 record) outside of winning the title this year....
How about a 12-0 sweep of the playoffs!? sure, why not.

I was super HYPED as I was watching the Celts pull the upset yesterday. My boys didn't believe me when I said, no lets go out and watch this game, it'll be worth it.
They said IT was done, and Celts would get blown out the building....
I said, naw... IT wasn't scoring, which makes him a liability on both ends of the court. They might be able to sneak one out without him on the floor.
Everyone kinda blew them off, until they got it close, and then I had a bunch of skeptics still, all the way up till that last 3pt shot bounced around and killed the clock before falling through the hoop.
The whole place erupted. Good times.

And what makes it even funnier is that the Cavs came out to the Monstars music, and just like the Monstars... they lost. lol

Who's got the Celtics getting a 2nd win?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: nickmitch on May 23, 2017, 09:47:04 AM
I'm hoping the Cavs just came out cocky and don't let this become a series.

Is anyone out there saying the West is weak or that the Warriors were lucky?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Adrock on May 23, 2017, 10:57:12 AM
If nothing else, the Warriors were lucky Kawhi Leonard got injured (or "lucky" that Zsa Zsa Patchooleeuh is such a lumbering, oafy guy). They were getting destroyed in Game 1. The rest of the series was more of a formality.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 23, 2017, 07:52:00 PM
Dubs certainly got lucky Kawhi went down after tweaking his ankle twice in about a minute. But the reason why he was still in the game after being up 20+, Warriors are an excellent come back team,.
And Curry was just warming up with 11pts shooting 4/4 just before that incident. It's possible the Dubs may have had a comeback run making it a close game.

But now the world may never know.... :: crunch::[/eats tootsie pop]
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 25, 2017, 08:00:17 PM
It's official, the thread title has come true like we all knew it would.

Warriors v Cavs round 3
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Adrock on May 25, 2017, 08:12:12 PM
Peas and rice, Boston. Did you even try?
Well, this is still accurate.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: nickmitch on May 26, 2017, 07:40:58 AM
Finally, the best part of the NBA season is here.

My secret wish is for a Cavs sweep, just for the lolz.  Not that it would happen, but could you imagine the reactions?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 26, 2017, 02:19:09 PM
Finally, the best part of the NBA season is here.

My secret wish is for a Cavs sweep, just for the lolz.  Not that it would happen, but could you imagine the reactions?

Yeah, I'm hoping the Cavs get swept too!! High Five!!
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Shaymin on May 26, 2017, 06:25:19 PM
For maximum hilarity, I want Cleveland to sweep games 4-7.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 26, 2017, 08:03:06 PM
I hate to break it to y'all, but the Slim Reaper is comin' to clean up

(http://i.imgur.com/XU86RWX.gif)

but not till after a Steph Curry Supernova comes and wrecks shop first

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--TK8ZYawK--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/1302123273305313350.gif)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Adrock on May 27, 2017, 08:04:49 AM
Again, I'm not even a Warriors fan, but since neither the Lakers nor the Sixers are likely going anywhere this year, all this 3-1 taunting kind of makes me want to see the Warriors steamroll through the playoffs and sweep the Cavaliers in the finals. I don't even want it to be close. I want a 16-0 playoff run and the NBA losing millions in advertising for that nonsense last season.
Let's fucking do this.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 27, 2017, 01:48:12 PM
Again, I'm not even a Warriors fan, but since neither the Lakers nor the Sixers are likely going anywhere this year, all this 3-1 taunting kind of makes me want to see the Warriors steamroll through the playoffs and sweep the Cavaliers in the finals. I don't even want it to be close. I want a 16-0 playoff run and the NBA losing millions in advertising for that nonsense last season.
Let's fucking do this.

My Man!!!

The bullshit of last years finals pulled by the league and the officials, and the competitive disrespect shown by Lebron that seem to be taken to a personal level on and off the court...
followed by comments by Draymond at the beginning of the season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlLK2VhCitw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlLK2VhCitw)

I am SOOO READY for this rematch. best of 3 everyone healthy this time around.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on June 01, 2017, 08:38:06 PM
I had a post typed up and my browser ate so I'm just gonna post this freaking act of God.


Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 02, 2017, 01:33:02 AM
I had a post typed up and my browser ate so I'm just gonna post this freaking act of God.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgZA0BdL4mc

now with music
https://streamable.com/ecr30

"Be Humble.... bitch, sit down."
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Adrock on June 02, 2017, 06:05:43 AM
So far so good, but I'm not celebrating yet. Thompson and Green were not great so I want to see better from them. Yet the Warriors still blew out the Cavaliers. With Curry healthy and the addition of Durant, it may be too difficult for the NBA to even attempt to pull that bullshit from last year.

See, I don't think the NBA actually cares who ultimately wins the championship. This is a star driven league, and these two teams have the most collective stars between them. The NBA has the ratings already. It can market the trilogy, the rivalry etc. The NBA wants more games for more advertising. It can try leaning calls in the Cavs' favor to attempt to give them a better chance of pushing the series to more games. The Cavs still have to deliver. They have to put themselves in a position to actually win some games which may be really hard this year. Golden State has too much talent while Cleveland got older and slower. The Warrriors may be too good to overcome anything but an outright fix.

I want the Warriors to win this year, and I can probably tolerate another year (maybe two) of sheer domination before it gets boring. I wasn't a Lakers fan until they lost in 2008 to the Celtics. I hated when the Lakers rattling off championships in the early 2000s. Outside of these Finals, I want competitive basketball. I still want my teams to win, but I like close games. Blowouts are just not that fun to watch... except this year. Last night was great. Watching Durant blow by James was like eating my favorite dessert.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on June 02, 2017, 12:00:46 PM
Klay and Draymond were bad offensively but more than made up for it with some stellar defense. Cavs were 1 for 12 from the field when Klay was the primary defender on a play, and he contested 10 of those 12 shots.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 02, 2017, 01:16:53 PM
Just imagine what the game looks like when Klay's shots start falling. Durant gonna end up setting a record for dunks in qtr/half/game if they keep parting the red sea to prevent the Splash Bros. from shooting 3's.

Shipping lanes were left side open. Durant couldn't believe they were giving him the red carpet treatment to the rim. He ain't never had it so easy.
No wonder he already agreed to take less next season to keep the core of the team together.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 02, 2017, 05:19:15 PM
Some video's so you can appreciate what I'm watching in these Warrior games.
-It's not all Offensive, they are great on Defense too.

first Draymond "Defensive genius" and potential DPOY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyt1EFkB7gs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyt1EFkB7gs)

and then last nights game, the beauty of playing defense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I16sEoVU2Z0&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I16sEoVU2Z0&feature=youtu.be)
- see how Klay sacrificed his 3 to double down on D
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on June 02, 2017, 06:37:45 PM
I am very sad that Chris Bosh's career has officially ended but glad in a way he won't have any on-court issues that could affect his health down the road. I know it must suck wanting to play and feeling like you could still play at a high level but I hope he puts that energy into the next phase of his life.

(https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/chris-bosh-photobomb.png)

(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1199629/boshchamp_1.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Adrock on June 04, 2017, 05:35:16 PM
Come on, Derek Fisher.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on June 07, 2017, 08:52:25 PM
I....I can't believe those last two minutes. I was sure the Dubs threw that game in the toilet. Kevin Durant is unreal.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on June 07, 2017, 09:28:02 PM
I don't care if he become old and decrepit, I want Iggy to finish his career with the Warriors. Pay him all of the money. He had 2 incredible play down the stretch:

- He had the awareness to switch with Curry when it looked like the LeBron wanted to set up another mismatch. Instead of getting switched with Curry LeBron had to try and drive on Draymond. He still kicked it to Korver, who was wide open because Curry was dumb enough to fall for Love's screen. But that's a better option than James vs Curry one on one, and having multiple shooters open because everyone is collapsing on James.
- He got a clutch strip on James, and hopefully revenge for the two times he's failed to convert easy layups in clutch situations.

https://twitter.com/ryenarussillo/status/872668075392421888
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 07, 2017, 11:17:47 PM
Lebron during the course of these finals...

(http://i.imgur.com/I9wdFh7.gif)

(http://i.imgur.com/i5rdGdC.jpg)

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Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 09, 2017, 04:38:27 PM
I made this at work today in paint as I had nothing better to do but kill time until the game starts...

(http://i.imgur.com/t4LrhzK.png)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 09, 2017, 08:31:25 PM
Not looking good for a sweep right now...
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Adrock on June 09, 2017, 09:26:15 PM
You had one job, Golden State.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on June 09, 2017, 09:37:24 PM
I'm pissed. They had so many stupid turnovers. The defense was terrible. They let their emotions get the best of them and got in too many fights.


That said, Cleveland went 24/45 from 3. That's not happening again.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 10, 2017, 12:08:12 AM
..... and no one calls out the Ref's?

that first quarter officiating was some of the worst, most blatant, biased, bullshit I think I've ever seen. Actually the whole game was just terrible when it comes to officiating.

but the ref assist given to the Cav's specifically in the 1st quarter to get all the Warrior starters in foul trouble in the first 4 minutes of the game was something truly special to witness.

it was terrible both ways for most of the rest of the game, but it was that 1st quarter that set the tone and created a lead that was just too much to overcome.

between the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th quarters I think the Cavs only won each of those by about 1-2 pts each. It was that 16 point lead in the 1st quarter that was never made up.

The fact that defensively the Cavs were allowed to get away with almost everything off the ball that they wanted. Poor Curry was being abused. Durant practically dragged Rj over to the ref to get a holding call, but the ref refused to call it. and once after Klay got fouled, the game stopped on it's own and everyone stared at the ref for like a split second before he blew the whistle and called a foul on JR Smith, who almost put his hand up to volunteer the foul before it was called.

I thought Game 6 of last year was bad, but this was soooo much worse.
I hear there was a Laker game about 15-20 years ago and a Mavs game too that was somewhere near as bad if not even worse, so I can't imagine even attempting to watch that garbage.

Cavs shot near lights out, and Kyrie was balling out of his mind, but that's not unexpected when the other team can't even defend you because the refs will foul them out, yet you are not held to the same standard on the other end of the court.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Shaymin on June 10, 2017, 07:29:04 AM
As a neutral, I'm just glad the possibility of an Xzibit situation is still technically available.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 10, 2017, 04:41:00 PM
So, there's an extra $22 million to be made in California if they end up playing 2 more home games...
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 10, 2017, 06:40:20 PM
made by who though?

The Warriors? or the NBA? or both?
Because the Warriors would be stupid to be complicit in anything that extends this past 5 games, just for some extra money in the owners pocket.
The NBA and TV contracts... I can understand why they would have their refs go in an "fix" the game, but next time they could be a little less "in your face" about it next time around.
I've seen some badly officiated games, but yesterdays game was so bad, it only invites conspiracy theories about how "fixed" it was.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Adrock on June 12, 2017, 08:49:19 PM
Warriors win!
(https://i.imgur.com/MLr5TAx.gif)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors and Cavs!
Post by: Soren on June 12, 2017, 10:11:17 PM
Kevin Durant, Finals MVP and World Champion. Mike Brown, 2 time champion, this time at the helm for most of the games. He helped keep the team afloat. Even sweeter the fact that the Cavs were writing his checks. Congrat to JaVale, Zaza, David West and Matt Barnes for finally getting rings. Curry played out of his mind even as he was getting trapped constantly. All world defense by Klay and Draymon. Iggy with 20 clutch points off the bench. Guys like Pat McCaw and Ian Clark who stepped up to the plate and filled the void left by guys like Speights and Barbosa.

This team is just incredible man. This season was incredible. People might say this team might bring a decline in basketball, but in a personal note, as a fan, I think I'm allowed to have a selfish moment. I'll cherish this dynasty for as long as it last after all the years of losing and futility.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 12, 2017, 11:51:19 PM
McCaw scored 4pts on Lebron in the 4th.

That's when Lebron truly knew he had lost.

but now i have a favor to ask of anyone with PS skillz.

I'm going to the parade on Thursday (:coughcough: feeling too sick to make it into work that day....) and want to print out a custom sign.

can someone help me edit this pic:
(http://i.imgur.com/QUMyPti.png)

to include a cartoon NBA Championship trophy over the gold Warriors symbol on the right, but behind the letters, but with the Warriors symbol still in from of the basketball of the trophy.
also edit in an MVP trophy into Durant's hand.

then in the gold box on the bottom left
at the top above the logo: The Finals
and the bottom below the logo: 2017 NBA Champions

oh, and toast the number 11 into the toast for Toaster Thompson.

yeah, that should do it!!
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on June 13, 2017, 07:24:03 AM
Man, the Cavs being within 10 for almost the whole 4th quarter was excruciating.  I'm happy for KD, but let this be a lesson to all of us: Based god's curse is real and you should never cross him.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 13, 2017, 08:01:54 PM
and he already lifted Harden's curse....

But the Kardashian Kurse may still be in effect.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on June 14, 2017, 06:48:47 AM
Unfortunately, he lifted Harden's curse after the MVP voting, which should cement Westbrook as MVP.

But wasn't Reggie Bush dating Kim Kardashian when the Saints won the Super Bowl?  I could've sworn that was happening.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Soren on June 23, 2017, 08:26:37 AM
Holy crap. The T'Wolves flat-out stole Jimmy Butler from the Bulls.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on June 23, 2017, 05:25:55 PM
That trade wouldn't have been so, so terrible for the Bulls if they didn't give up their own pick. Why did the the Bulls need to sweeten the deal? They're giving up a top ten player to a man with the biggest basketball hard-on for Jimmy Butler. Chicago could and should have raked Tom Thibedeau over the coals before sending Butler to Minnesota.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 24, 2017, 08:54:01 AM
And then the Bulls sold their 2nd round pick to the Warriors who picked up the next "Draymond Green" in Jordan Bell for some potential major rim protection, rebounding, and in the paint scoring.

Looney better get a new bench pad, as I feel like if he gets up off the bench, it will be to play with some other team. LOL
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Soren on June 24, 2017, 11:06:14 AM
Looney is on a rookie contract and is a warm body. He's not going anywhere.

Warriors pulled this same move last year and landed Pat McCaw who played pivotal minutes in the game 5 clincher. If they can get that from Bell they'll be in good hands. I think eschewing the youth movement has really cost Cleveland in this rat race. They're talking about Paul George and even Dwayne Wade but meanwhile have no draft picks or show any signs of looking for raw rookie talent.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on June 25, 2017, 01:44:59 AM
From all reports, sounds like the Jazz managed to quietly steal the draft with 2 solid first rounders that only cost a late 1st round pick & some bench warmers. Nice.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 26, 2017, 09:00:24 PM
I can't believe this ****....

https://streamable.com/vklkd (https://streamable.com/vklkd)

BBB on WWE

https://twitter.com/yeezvz/status/879506352254726145 (https://twitter.com/yeezvz/status/879506352254726145)
"Beat that nigga ass!!!" live on WWE tonight.

they have truly made it. Big Ballers Indeed.
(http://i.imgur.com/8H9kuE2.gif)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on June 27, 2017, 08:08:34 AM
I'd be lying if I said I didn't want the Lakers to draft Lonzo Ball partially because his father is such a putz (I was pulling for Josh Jackson since he has a more well-rounded game, namely better defense). I didn't watch Raw, but I saw a screenshot of LaMelo wearing a "Stay In Yo Lane" shirt. That's so disappointing because of the implication that his kids think that's acceptable too. I really wish the media would stop giving this guy a platform. If you're unfamiliar with the origins of that shirt, LaVar told ESPN's Kristine Lahey to "stay in [her] lane" which should have been the last straw. Granted, Lahey overstepped a journalistic line by questioning LaVar's parenting. LaVar's response was like one step away from "Get back in the kitchen," and we really need to stop acting like that's okay.

LaVar trying to make money off of being an asshole is unsurprising though it still does kind of bother me. I know Lonzo isn't his dad, but his dad makes rooting for him more difficult.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on June 27, 2017, 12:53:11 PM
I remember that clip from The Herd.  She was trying to be a journalist and ask him questions about why BBB doesn't have a women's line, which is fair.  He kept blowing her off, not wanting to talk to her because of her parenting comments (also fair) before he began to over-react.

I sincerely hope there's a "There's only two people better than me and I'm both of 'em" shirt next.  The Raw appearance was hysterical.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on June 27, 2017, 02:40:17 PM
Kristine Leahy basically asked the same question Colin Cowherd did (how many shoes has Big Baller Brand sold). LaVar was still salty because of Leahy's previous comments from like a month and a half prior. It's certainly Leahy's right to say Lonzo and his brothers are scared of their father (among other things), but I don't know how fair that is from a journalistic standpoint. What evidence did she have for more or less accusing LaVar of child abuse? I can see why LaVar would take offense to what Leahy said. At the same time, it doesn't justify his response and how he treated her.


I don't really know much about Kristine Leahy so this is less about her. LaVar Ball's schtick is already old. I can roll my eyes to comments like "[Lonzo is] better than Steph Curry" (he isn't) or "Lonzo Ball is going to take the Lakers to the playoffs in his first year" (he won't even with Paul George). But when he gets on national television and talks down to someone (regardless of gender) like he did, I just can't deal with it.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: ShyGuy on June 27, 2017, 05:06:42 PM
Kevin Durant was in town for Hoopfest this last weekend. I think he has a new shoe coming out.

(http://i.imgur.com/A7HxDNm.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/a/e8sUb)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on June 30, 2017, 11:00:48 PM
Paul George got traded to the Thunder for Victor Oladipo and Domantis Sabonis. The silver lining is that isn't the worst trade this summer (certainly no Jimmy Butler to the Timberwolves). Oladipo can play though he's overpaid. Sources had the Celtics offering three first round picks (not 2017 Nets pick or 2018 Lakers/2019 Kings pick via pre-draft Philly trade), Jae Crowder and another starter. That's a hell of a better offer than what they got. Pacers wanted both picks Celtics weren't offering plus two starters for a great player who almost certainly would be a one-year rental. Talk about overplaying your hand. Whomp whomp.

The Thunder won big though. They get to try to sell Russell Westbrook on resigning by offering him the super-max and the chance to play with another superstar that he sorely needed after Durant bolted. It may not work, leaving the Thunder with another rebuild if both Westbrook and George leave (at least the latter will), but hey, rebuilding will be a hell of a lot easier without Oladipo on the books. The best way to rebuild is to lose with low salary guys and use caps space to take on **** contracts for draft picks or young albeit unproven talent, just continue acquiring assets until you either draft your superstar or flip a bunch of picks/players for an up and coming one.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Soren on July 01, 2017, 06:51:13 AM
PG is totally leaving for LA, so it will be fun to see how much he's alienated by Westbrook.


Warriors decline the team option on James Michael McAdoo, understandable given who they drafted this year. Livingston got paid and I could not be more happier for him. Ditto for Curry.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on July 01, 2017, 08:25:49 AM
Worst case scenario for the Thunder is if George convinces Westbrook to come back to Southern California with him. I mean, if you're going to get dominated by the Warriors for the next five years, might as well do so in Los Angeles.

It would be nice to see the Lakers not be total trash anymore, but even a combo of George and Westbrook won't get it done. Curry's new contract complicates the Warriors' ability to make significant roster changes. At the same time, Durant committing to take a pay cut (for what a top three player should be paid anyway) to give the team flexibility allows the Warriors to remain the favorites for the foreseeable future.

The East just got hella weak too. The Cavs got worked, a team no East team could touch, then Butler and George got traded to the West. Sure, one can argue that the West got tougher, but really, those trades just rebalanced the middle. The Timberwolves aren't touching Warriors. The Thunder went from a first round exit to maybe a second round exit. The Rockets with Chris Paul still aren't better than the Spurs who aren't better than the Warriors. It's a tough time for fans who care about competitive basketball. One can only hope the Warriors get bored and/or complacent.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Soren on July 01, 2017, 08:38:26 AM
The West dominance is a smoke screen. Yes they have pretty much 8 of the 10 best teams in the league but we're in the Warriors/Cavs era and everyone else is fighting for scraps. Utah was the 5th best team in the West last year and they have so many questions it's easy for them to tumble back to the cellar. Spurs are in flux and it looks more and more like they struck out on Aldridge. Minny needs to make the playoffs before we can even start including them in the discussion. Same with New Orleans. Portland could still be frisky, ditto Denver. Clippers aren't looking that bad if all they lose is CP3. But there's just a whole lot of teams stuck in the middle.


As for the Warriors it's interesting to look at the possible ring-chasers available. Vince Carter, Arron Afflalo, Nene. Maybe David West sticks around for another year.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Shaymin on July 01, 2017, 01:17:59 PM
So what would it take to make the East competitive again? People deciding they don't want to play in, I dunno, Curry's conference like happened in the 90s with Jordan? Collective brain transplants for every Eastern GM in the US?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 01, 2017, 07:45:43 PM
The PG Trade is very suspect.
Pacers owner got way better offers and decided that he didn't want PG to stay in the East, so he flipped him to OKC for almost nothing... not even a draft pick (not sure if OKC had one... but Boston had already previously offered much more)
They turned down a great offer at the trade deadline, which would have seen PG vs the Lebron in the ECF instead of the 1st round. Then Boston offered an unspecific commitment to trade for PG after they make a run at Gordon Hayward, and Pacers panicked, figured Ainge was bullshitting w/ his horde of assets and took the first Western deal that came his way.

They even had a 3 way deal that would have placed PG on the Cavs, but like I stated above, Indiana really didn't want PG to stay in the East. so OKC's table scrap offer it is...

and Paul George is totally gonna recruit WB to go to LA with him next year.
but seeing how stacked the West is, I really doubt Lebron follows suit too, most likely to just be content being the King of the East laid out in a lawn chair on the sideline through most of the regular season.

and the Warriors.
Curry has now signed the NBA's 1st $200M contract. just records everywhere for this boy.
Livingston took a discount @ $24M/3yrs to stay on the Warriors
West signed for Vet Minimum and plans to retire after this year
Iggy is expected to resign, but had to feel out what his value is so the Warriors could match it (fingers crossed... looking like a 3yr/$45M contract is what he's trying to get)
and Durant will sign discount as soon as Iggy signs... or take his full pay if he don't(?)

So our roster is looking like
Curry / Klay / Durant / Dray / and maybe Iggy
Livingston / West / McCaw / Jones / Looney / Bell

no word yet on Zaza, Clark, McGee or Barnes

Macadoo didn't have his team option picked up, but I'm sure he'll get paid somewhere. 2X NBA champ and all.

and with everyone headed West... I'm really wondering what the All-star game looks like next year.
There's no way the Warriors get 4 on the squad again. But role players will be pulling up on the 2nd unit for the East. They might have to get rid of East vs West and just do top 20 voting and pick team captains who pick their squad the day before the game. LOL that would be interesting.

Here is the 2017 All-Star roster:
http://www.nba.com/teams/allstar/2017
The East has already lost 2 in PG  & Butler
Millsap is shopping to get on T-Wolves
Lowry hasn't landed anywhere yet
Not sure what's up with Carmelo
and Cavs were trying to trade Love to Denver in 3-way to get PG from Ind.
Assuming some of those don't stay East... who takes their place on the East squad?
and which of them make the squad in the West ahead of who is already on the likely to be back list?

Honestly I think they should do a Top 16 Playoffs (conference-less / evens vs odds) and do the Team Captain Top 20 All-Star Game. could be more interesting especially considering how stacked the West is right now vs how weak the East looks in comparison
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on July 01, 2017, 08:05:25 PM
What's suspect about the trade? Pacers didn't want to trade George to any team in the East and didn't want to trade him to the Lakers, his prefer destination. It's petty considering all George did for the organization especially telling them before the draft that he didn't intend to re-sign. At the same time, the Lakers, knowing they had leverage, weren't going to give up anything of value without also dumping Mozgov or Deng, two of the worst contracts in the league right now.

Hindsight is 20/20, the Pacers should have taken the Celtics deal at the trade deadline which included this year's Nets pick. Considering George's blatant desire to play in Los Angeles next year, I would have taken the Celtics offer: three draft picks and two starters who they could have traded to go into full tank mode. Take the chance of George staying in Boston for the much better assets.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 01, 2017, 08:15:20 PM
That's exactly what was suspect about the trade. The fact that the Pacers turned down multiple better offers at the trade deadline, and then again before the draft, and then decided to dump him for basically nothing moments before free agency hit!? especially when you still had a better offer on the table from the Celtics who told you they just need to take care of something else first before giving you valuable usable assets from the Boston vault.
What was the rush? PG wasn't going anywhere.... OKC had no leverage to do anything with any free agents... and Boston just needed a few more days before they got back to them with a formal offer of assets/picks/etc.

Were they really that damn petty about him not staying in the East, that they wouldn't trade him for something actually useful to the team? They even turned down Kevin Love from the Cavs in the 3 way trade w/ the Nuggets.

oh, and that Nene deal that fell through, that was kinda fucked. Over 38 rule... (not really sure what that is, but apparently it was violated by the deal)?
back on the market for him. Or maybe the Rockets get something else worked out
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Soren on July 02, 2017, 05:59:17 AM
How many times is Danny Ainge going to insist that "no, we actually had a better deal in place" before people start calling him out on his bullshit? Yes, Forman/Paxson and Pritchard are idiots who have no business running a franchise with the way they've bungled their respective deals but the more this happens the more I'm willing to believe that Ainge is being needlessly stingy with the picks he's offering.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Shaymin on July 02, 2017, 07:07:27 AM
oh, and that Nene deal that fell through, that was kinda fucked. Over 38 rule... (not really sure what that is, but apparently it was violated by the deal)?
back on the market for him. Or maybe the Rockets get something else worked out

It used to be the over-36 rule, apparently. It's designed to stop high dollar frontloaded contracts that there's no intention of completing from either side. (Think a 17 year deal worth $102m that pays <$1m in the last six years of the deal: this was initially agreed to in the NHL before the league stepped in (http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2010/07/here_are_the_official_numbers.html).)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Soren on July 02, 2017, 07:22:38 AM
This blog comment(!!!) actually explains what happened with Nene. Houston tried to sign him with a non-Bird rights exception, but because that particular deal would trigger the over-38 rule it means it's not really possible under the terms Houston originally agreed to.

http://deadspin.com/1796576778
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on July 02, 2017, 07:48:17 AM
What was the rush?
Every day you have a guy who admittedly doesn't want to play for your team you're losing leverage, damaging locker room morale, and frustrating the fan base. Larry Bird gambled and lost. Kevin Pritchard was on clock. Paul George was losing value by the hour. Everyone and their mother knows he's going to the Lakers unless he falls in the perfect situation so most teams weren't offering great deals. Pritchard was balancing his own pettiness with his need to improve the team.
Quote
Were they really that damn petty about him not staying in the East, that they wouldn't trade him for something actually useful to the team?
Well, yeah. Pritchard called George telling the Pacers he had no intention of returning a "gut-punch" three times in the same interview. He should have said thank you because George didn't have to say ****. In any case, this happens all the time in sports. That's why I don't think there's anything suspicious going on. It isn't against NBA rules to be an asshole to a player halfway out the door even if he meant a lot to the franchise and city for the past seven years.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 03, 2017, 02:58:53 PM
and with everyone headed West... I'm really wondering what the All-star game looks like next year.
There's no way the Warriors get 4 on the squad again. But role players will be pulling up on the 2nd unit for the East. They might have to get rid of East vs West and just do top 20 voting and pick team captains who pick their squad the day before the game. LOL that would be interesting.

Here is the 2017 All-Star roster:
http://www.nba.com/teams/allstar/2017 (http://www.nba.com/teams/allstar/2017)
The East has already lost 2 in PG  & Butler
Millsap is shopping to get on T-Wolves
Lowry hasn't landed anywhere yet
Not sure what's up with Carmelo
and Cavs were trying to trade Love to Denver in 3-way to get PG from Ind.
Assuming some of those don't stay East... who takes their place on the East squad?
and which of them make the squad in the West ahead of who is already on the likely to be back list?

Honestly I think they should do a Top 16 Playoffs (conference-less / evens vs odds) and do the Team Captain Top 20 All-Star Game. could be more interesting especially considering how stacked the West is right now vs how weak the East looks in comparison

So the All-Star East team also lost Millsap to the West (Denver Nuggets)
Lowry decided to stay East
Carmelo still looking to move... if he can't get to Lebron, he's trying to join CP3 and Harden in Houston
and no idea if the Cavs are still trying to deal for Love
But Hayward might go East, so that's something.

and I still think Indiana could have waited, and/or reached out to Boston for a definitive offer to wait for, instead of hastily taking the deal they did, when it was obvious people were willing to give more than what they ultimately took in exchange.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 03, 2017, 04:37:19 PM
so just incase you were wondering... how much does it cost to keep a Super Team in the current NBA?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDyRmstUAAAHHCE?format=jpg)

Them boys better go 82-0 +16-0 for the next 3 seasons.
that's a hell of a tax bill coming to The Bay.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Shaymin on July 03, 2017, 05:23:06 PM
The owner's a Silicon Valley techbro with more money than Nintendo. If he wants rings, he'll pay up.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Soren on July 07, 2017, 05:06:21 PM
Look at this ridiculous roster:

Starting 5: Curry/Klay/Durant/Green/Zaza(just re-signed!)
Bench Unit: Livingston/Swaggy/Iggy/Casspi/West
Depth: McCaw/Bell/Looney.

Warriors actually managed to improve over what they had with Clark/McAdoo.


EDIT: Also the Cavs become the latest team in the league trying to convince themselves that Jeff Green is actually a good basketball player.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Shaymin on July 07, 2017, 05:55:35 PM
I know it's just a name's the same situation, but I saw "Cavs sign Jeff Green" and thought "Wait, why did they sign a former writer/podcaster in his 50s?"
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Soren on July 07, 2017, 09:56:15 PM
So....I don't really follow college basketball that much. Good god Lonzo Ball's shooting motion is atrocious. Was it really just her asshole father that got him to this level?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 07, 2017, 11:29:07 PM
He makes shots though.... regardless of the motion, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I have to admit I haven't seen too much of the man myself, but if the scouts put him that high... there has to be something to his game that we all just haven't witnessed yet.

Look at this ridiculous roster:

Starting 5: Curry/Klay/Durant/Green/Zaza(just re-signed!)
Bench Unit: Livingston/Swaggy/Iggy/Casspi/West
Depth: McCaw/Bell/Looney.

Warriors actually managed to improve over what they had with Clark/McAdoo.

and we still got room for what? 2 more? Did McGee get paid in Sac? I thought I heard he signed w/ the Kings. and what happened to Clark and MacAdoo? did they get resigned anywhere?
Also I assume Zaza took a vet minimum again?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Soren on July 08, 2017, 07:44:38 AM
It might be a Shawn Marion situation where it's better to just let him be instead of trying to fix it, lest you break him down completely. But still, he went 2-15 in his summer league debut and they were giving him open looks.

and we still got room for what? 2 more? Did McGee get paid in Sac? I thought I heard he signed w/ the Kings. and what happened to Clark and MacAdoo? did they get resigned anywhere?
Also I assume Zaza took a vet minimum again?

Zaza signed 1 year/3.5 million. Also I don't know how you can add more players. I have a hard time seeing how minutes get distributed with this roster. You might want to add another pure center down the line but early on in the season I kind of want to see how Looney improves. If he doesn't then you go looking for a center.

Also, Clark lost minutes to McCaw as the playoffs wore on. I think he might of hit his ceiling as an NBA player.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 08, 2017, 09:18:02 AM
Clark had an expiring contract, and McCaw is signed for atleast 3 more years, so it makes sense to develop McCaw over Clark, especially when they were at worst, interchangeable as players w/ McCaw probably being the better and I think longer defender.

And yeah, Lonzo's shot is ugly AF, but he is usually a decent shooter w/ Steph Curry range, so if it works for him for this long, you might ruin his whole shooting game by trying to fix it now.

and Looney is turrible. If he actually develops some post game, maybe bulks a bit... I don't know, maybe he can be all right, but I think Bell & Jones will be getting playtime over him. I haven't watched any Summer League, but I'm hoping Bell and Jones bring some McGee like excitement factor when it comes to the Dubs "In The Paint" game. Bell looked like he had that kind of length, and I'm not really sure what to expect out of Jones, but both of them have got to be better a 4 or 5 than Looney.

Oh, but Barnes, McAdoo and Clark are all out?
have any of them resigned anywhere else yet?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Soren on July 08, 2017, 01:33:32 PM
LOL I forgot Jones was still with the team.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on July 11, 2017, 10:46:08 PM
Lakers landed Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, who was the best available free agent left on the market and only because Danny Ainge was forced to trade Avery Bradley. Then, the Pistons were like, "We have 37 guards on the team now" and renounced KCP's rights.

Not a bad off-season for the Lakers. I didn't love (but also didn't hate) trading D'Angelo Russell just to dump Timofey Mozgov's contract. I get it. There was no way to get Mozgov or Luol Deng off the team without sending out something of value. Still, I felt Magic Johnson and Rob Lowe Pelinka sold low on Russell though to their credit, they apparently tried dangling an unprotected first round draft pick (presumably 2020) to teams with cap space to take Mozgov or Deng so they didn't just say, "**** D'ANGELO," before literally kicking him out of Staples Center. The problem with that draft pick is it aims to be a late first round selection if Magic's hilariously very not secret plan of signing two superstars in 2018 comes to pass. If the Lakers end up being good by then, that draft pick just isn't as valuable as you'd want it to be to take on a shitty contract.

Anyway, the Lakers draft picks have looked good in Summer League. The Caldwell-Pope signing bumped up the grade from B to B+. I was worried about the Lakers' interest in Rajon Rondo before the KCP signing. Bringing in Rondo makes more sense now if he's willing to take the room exception (it's like $4.3 million so perhaps not). Magic and Rob didn't panic and give up the farm for Paul George. The Russell-Mozgov trade technically is an upgrade. Today, Brook Lopez is better than D'Angelo Russell (verdict is out on Russell in the future though I was a believer in his potential). Also, a Russell-Ball backcourt would have been a colossal LOL-fail on defense. I'm going to miss Nick Young. I was like one of six Lakers fans who still wanted him on the team after he played like total ass in 2015-2016. I'm glad he's getting his auto-win championship ring next season.

I predict 35 wins, give or take a few. The Lakers won 26 games last season, and they managed to improve both shooting and defense this summer. To clarify, while shooting and defense are better, they still aren't good on this team. If nothing else, ball movement will improve as both Young and Lou Williams are no longer on the team.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on July 14, 2017, 06:11:46 AM
Lonzo Ball got another triple double. Watch out league. The Lakers are going 74-8 this year.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on July 14, 2017, 07:07:29 AM
Is it the shoes? (https://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2017/7/14/15969896/lonzo-ball-summer-league-performances-by-the-shoes-hes-worn-lakers)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on July 21, 2017, 01:42:08 PM
Kyrie Irving just requested a trade directly to Dan Gilbert. He apparently no longer wants to play alongside Lebron James because he wants to be the focal point of the team.

Here's the Cavs problem (specifically for this situation): Irving is under contract for three more years so instinctually, given his desire not to play second fiddle to James, the Cavs should trade James except James has a no-trade clause and is now more likely to leave next year regardless of whether Gilbert panics and trades Irving. Yikes.

Playing arm-chair General Manager (and since the Cavaliers don't currently have a General Manager), I would trade Lebron James to literally anywhere he would accept a trade ("I'm taking my talents to Oakland!"). Why? The best move is to appease Irving without trading him which means moving James at all costs. They can't play out the year like this. Even if James leaves next year, Irving would complain his way out of Cleveland anyway for being forced to play with James (curb stomping all leverage) then they'd lose two star players for nothing and/or scraps. By dealing James, the Cavs have three years to at least try to convince Irving to stay and aren't rushed into a bad deal if they're forced to trade him anyway.

The Cavs could also try blowing it up entirely. Just accruing assets for Irving and Love then letting James walk next year. They won't get fair value for a guy demanding a trade.

I hope everyone looks forward to Warriors vs Celtics next June.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 22, 2017, 09:27:05 AM
Dude, NBA is played in the West next year.

WCF is the NBA finals, and outside of some breakout performances and record breaking seasons, any team coming out of the East is just the bonus series.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 27, 2017, 11:36:25 PM
Reddit's Top 82 Plays from last season
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/6pwaxf/with_82_days_to_go_until_next_season_tips_off/?st=j5mwtn6s&sh=70486db9
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 22, 2017, 07:48:03 PM
So it looks like Kyrie got traded from the Cavs to the Celtics.

traded for IT, Crowder, Zizic and the Nets '18 Pick unprotected.


Who do you think made out the best in this trade?
The Warriors?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on August 22, 2017, 08:24:35 PM
Who do you think made out the best in this trade?
The Warriors?
Ehh, Golden State was going to steamroll everyone this year regardless.

Honestly, Cleveland. They're still better than Boston, have Crowder on one of the best contracts in the league until 2020, get a new start with what will be an excellent draft pick once Lebron bolts again.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 22, 2017, 11:02:32 PM
Cleveland was the real answer, GS was the obvious answer though.

Cavs vs Celtics is a season opener BTW.
gonna be an interesting one to watch.

I wonder it there will be Ex Team tensions. I know IT gonna try an prove himself. He's got to be a little hot under the collar at this trade.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 23, 2017, 12:50:19 AM
I'm not a basketball fan at all, but as someone who can't help but hear about the Cavs while following the Cleveland sports media as a Browns and Indians fan it seems like a pretty damn good haul considering their lack of leverage due to Irving publicly demanding to be traded.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 23, 2017, 01:48:19 PM
They actually got a great deal, in comparison to what was traded for Jimmy Butler and especially for Paul George.
That is of course if IT's hip isn't isn't fucked from the injury still.
And assuming that the Nets are terrible again this year, since they got that unprotected pick too.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on August 23, 2017, 04:21:01 PM
When one of your superstars demands a trade and you get another superstar in the exchange, you win.  I'm shocked the Cavaliers were able to get that much.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on August 23, 2017, 05:13:06 PM
I'm surprised Cleveland got that much from Danny Ainge of all people, the grandmaster of decisively winning trades. Time will tell if this trade is as bad for Boston as it looks on paper. Really, it isn't terrible. Give the edge to the Cavs even though the Celtics didn't get swindled. They got the best player out of deal even if the team got worse. Personally, the only bad move here was including Jae Crowder because he vastly outplays his contract. I think Ainge could have wore down Koby Altman regarding Crowder.

Otherwise, I don't think Boston planned on re-signing Isaiah Thomas for the max contract he would have demanded given his hip injury and bone abnormality that caused said injury that is likely chronic. This trade puts the Celtics on a much better timeline with a younger, better player on a longer contract. They have Irving for two years or longer if he either opts in to that third year or re-signs.

And this is a win for Cleveland not just because of the assets it received. The Cavaliers are in a great position. They'll still be competitive this year, likely favorites to make it back to the Finals to lose to Golden State since Boston also got worse after this trade. Then, Cleveland can blow it up next summer while holding great assets. The Cavs have their own pick and Brooklyn's pick in 2018, and top 10 protections in 2019 and 2020 which they'll keep if they go into tank mode. They have assets to move to get more picks and okay to decent young players. Letting Thomas walk after Lebron walks gives them cap room to absorb bad contracts to accrue even more assets. Still, having assets and using them effectively are different things.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on August 25, 2017, 09:36:18 PM
So apparently, the Cavs weren't satisfied with Thomas' physical and are mulling the next step. They may push for an additional pick. Jeez, guys, you already won that trade and no one was even close to offering a comparative package.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 24, 2017, 12:13:42 AM
Warriors finally with a deciding victory!!

I predicted the winner of every game today except for the Kings losing to the Suns... didn't see that happening.

But did ya'll see the rookie Jordan Bell? Alley-ooping to himself on a fast break, and then getting fouled in the process for an and1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7alJLoBPYk

Between him and McGee being paired up with Dray and Curry, could be a lot of fun once the Dubs start firing on all cylinders. They showed a few glimpses of greatness tonight, but they still got some work to do, mostly on defense, but also in the turnover department.

and in other team news....
Harden almost got in a fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGKP0EvVVBg

Mario Chalmers might be getting suspended over this one.... put his hands on the ref.

76ers won. - Simmons w/ his first triple double and Embiid also had a good game on a back2back.

Gabrielle Union revealed that Dwayne Wade like to get his salad tossed on the Sway in the Morning show this morning, subsequently, Wade has had his butt benched to the reserve unit. (totally unrelated to the salad incident)

Eric Bledsoe had tweeted that he "didn't want to be here" around the same time that his coach got fired after the Suns lost their 3rd game of the season, and 2nd game last by more than 40pts on Sunday.
They had a team meeting this morning, where they decided he was now a DNP.
Bledsoe immediately hopped on twitter to say that he wasn't referring to his team in his previous tweet, but about the hair salon he was supposedly at.
The Team management didn't believe him. Bledsoe is now up for trade and considered DNP for the Suns till that trade happens.

Oh, also Kyrie got fined $25k for telling a fan to "suck my dick"
Curry got ejected and fined (but not suspended) for throwing his mouth piece in the general direction of the Ref.
Iguodala also got fined, but not ejected
and Durant also got ejected, but not fined... all at the end of Sunday nights game in a Warriors loss.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on October 24, 2017, 08:18:37 AM
This season is off to a chaotic start!
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 24, 2017, 03:03:29 PM
I forgot to mention that Giannis (who's dad just passed away weeks before the season started) had apparently been in beast mode and is early favorite for MVP if he keeps up like this. After 4 games, he's averaging 36.8pts / 10.8reb / 5.3asst. - the Bucks are 3-1 right now.

Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on October 25, 2017, 07:24:49 AM
You also forgot to mention that Steph Curry has a foot fetish.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 25, 2017, 09:24:26 AM
Was that what Aiesha had said in her interview!?

LOL.
Far less personal/embarrassing than what Gabrielle shared. LOL
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on October 25, 2017, 05:43:21 PM
First, Ayesha Curry says that Steph has a foot fetish.

Then, Gabrielle Union says that Dwayne Wade likes his booty hole licked.

Next, Wanda Durant is going to spill the beans on how KD likes his sandwiches cut.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Shaymin on October 25, 2017, 07:47:33 PM
...this thread became a hardcore porn thread so gradually I barely noticed.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 25, 2017, 11:00:50 PM
Dubs and Lakers both with a nail biter tonite!!!

whew.
Warriors need to get it together. they show some glimpses of greatness, and they shut the competition down, then they keep getting sloppy. Almost let this one get away from them.
Jordan Bell is gonna be fun this season. He (eventually) gonna get all of Javale's playtime. quote me on that ;)
Curry, Dray, Iggy, Bell and Klay might become a alt-death line-up.
with the 1st 3 feeding Bell, low post and Oops, could be what Javale was last year. Just gotta shake those rookie jitters.


I didn't see more than the end of regulation and beyond for the Lakers game, but damn... Wall gotta be ashamed. They were hyping this up all day. "Wall gonna eat Ball alive" etc etc. Apparently even Wall was talking ****... then underperformed his way to a last second failed attempt at a game winner in OT while trying to draw the 3pt foul from Ball just for a tie +1 attempt.
Good for the Lakers. I'm sure the post-game was insufferable w/ Lavar Ball on the stand though. I turned it off as soon as the game was over.

oh... and the Cavs got beat by the Nets.
Lebron tried to take over, but the Nets were just too much for them. Actually out there looking like a more than decent team. It was rumored they might be good this year... but they didn't even have their point guard. Hope the Nets can keep it interesting and don't firmly sit at the bottom of the pack for the whole season.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 28, 2017, 11:14:53 AM
Man, what a Warriors game last night.

Did anyone watch?

Beal v Dray: FIGHT.... sorta (more like cheap shot, then hug it out)
Oubre though...
long story short, I think the Wiz are gonna be short handed in their next game.

I'm thinking Beal, Markeif, and the other Wiz that jumped off the bench all get a 1 game suspension.
Oubre probably gets a multi game suspension for throwing punches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bf0gpppXRs

he actually clocks Wall in the back of the head on his way to land 2 more on Klay.

I also think Beal will get assessed a flagrant for grabbing Draymond by the face and neck area. That's on top of the penalty from the Tech, and then being suspended a game.

after all that (being down 14 at the time) the Warriors still won. LOL

and previous to that, it seemed like the Refs refused to call fouls committed by the Wiz, even the blatant ones, but we pull out the W anyway, so it's an even sweeter victory.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on October 29, 2017, 12:11:04 PM
Glad my Pels got a win, but what is up with the Cavs this year? I know between Rose, Wade, and IT there's only like 1.5 good knees, but dang.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 29, 2017, 02:30:15 PM
Cavs are right where LeBron wants them... Setting up his exit from Cleveland next off-season.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 02, 2018, 09:49:11 AM
Warrior Talk - Curry returns after 3+ weeks off.... 10 3's for 39 points
Warrior offense FINALLY looking good again. Grizz had an offensive game of their own... probably best of the whole season. They ran with the Dubs, but just got out paced. was a good game.
Now everyone is back and everyone is looking good. Klay needs to find his shot, but with Curry back to cookin, he'll be making space for everyone again and hopefully Dubs start looking like their 2016 selves again.
(pre-post edit: Almost forgot to mention the bullshit 2nd tech that Dray ejected in the 1st quarter... I'm surprised that didn't get overturned, even if he didn't return to the game)

Rockets Talk - Harden with a pulled hammy, out in the end of the 4th.... Lakers should've won but rookies gonna rook. CP3 gets to pull the weight for the next 3 weeks now. Anyone care to guess how that will look? Harden is the #1 scorer and assister in the league right now. How will regular season Rockets perform w/o him?
Spurs and Timberwolves are right behind them in the win column, but the Rockets have played 2 or more less games than both of them. Can CP3 stay on the floor long enough to keep that 2nd place standing in the West?
(pre-post edit: almost forgot to mention the bullshit hook that Harden pulled on Hart that got Hart called for a foul. Harden literally hooked his arm and then in slo-mo spun around and then tried to fake a shot... meanwhile Hart is just standing there looking at the ref like "really...." then just as shocked as everyone else when the ref rewarded that with a whistle and a defensive foul - one of Hart's 6 fouls... :/ and he was playing good too)

Lakers talk - so many close loses.... they should've had that Rockets game, but Kuz decides a 40ft 3 with a few seconds on the clock of a tied game is the shot to take.... take that **** inside my man. Nothing to lose, get the bucket, get fouled, get a much closer shot... anything but a 40ft shot with time left on the clock. there's some potential on this team, but this year is not their year. The only team they are doing better than is the Atlanta Hawks, but there are a lot of games the Lakers have been playing that they could've won, and for whatever stupid decision by players or coaching, they lost.
(edit: I have to admit that I've only watched a few select Laker games, and they all happen to be where the Lakers actually had good games <i.e. vs Warriors, Rockets, and 2-3 other teams> so I may have just seen them at their best... which wasn't good enough, as I think they still lost most the games I saw. lol)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 05, 2018, 12:45:37 PM
All-Star Fan Voting has begun

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSu9rO_VMAA_lr9.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSu9n6YU8AAGHB2.jpg)

Lonzo Ball has more votes than Al Horford and 10 other players above him.
Lonzo has to be the Zaza of this years fan voting. No Way he makes the cut. LOL

Just remember that the 2 winners (1 East, 1 West) become team captains and get to chose their roster from everyone else selected to be an All-Star this year.
That's gonna make things intersting.

Team KD v Team Lebron... how do you see the potential starting 5 looking like.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on January 05, 2018, 02:30:23 PM
Would be really interesting to see if KD snubs Westbrook or if he picks Westbrook only to have him say, "You're still a bitch".
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 16, 2018, 12:56:08 PM
You all missed some DRAMA last night. When does Bleacher Reports Game of Zones return? I think the opening drama for that went down last night.

But before I get to that... the Warriors Cavs game was good for the 1st 3 qtrs.
I think all Cavs fans should be a little concerned though. IT may not be 100 right now, but Cavs are not playing well... last night withstanding though. They did have a few highlights with some alleyoops from IT to Lebron that were pretty damn nice if I might say so myself. But even though the Cavs got to eat last night Chef Curry was only serving up L's to the competition.
Cavs retaliated by shutting off the hot water.... again. Cold Showers for ALL the visitors.


Westbrook got double T'd (in a matter of seconds) last night as well and ejected. OKC still beat the Kings though.

But the real drama of the night was CP3's return to L.A. to face the Clippers last night. Whooo boy did the **** go down. (I didn't watch the game, but caught the breakdown)
First Blake was taking it to CP3 physically, shoulders, elbows, etc etc etc. CP3 tried to laugh it off
Blake took it physically and verbally to Coach D'Antoni (gave him a quick elbow).... CP3 comes verbally at him, Ariza pushed him off physically... I believe Blake and D'Antoni or Ariza got a tech for this
Blake was body bumped out of bounds by Gordon, so Blake jumped up, and damn near chucked the ball at Gordons head so it would be out on him. (looked like it was still out on Blake as it touched him last)
Austin Rivers (sidelined w/ injury) got into it verbally with Ariza, so Blake got in the middle... they both (Blake and Ariza) got ejected
and at the end Gerald Green was barking at a ref.

but the best comes last
After the Rockets lost the game, they devised a plan to go confront the Clips in their locker room.
CP3 sent Capella up to the front locker room door, only to have it ultimatelly shut in his face.
But while that distraction was happening, CP3 led a small squad of Harden, Ariza and Gerald Green through a secret back hallway entrance to the Clips locker room to confront Blake and Rivers face to face.
Security got involved and the LAPD was in the mix too. and they were all separated before anything serious went down.

But Bleacher Report should have fun on Game of Zones with this one. Sounds like a season opener to me LOL

edit: Here's a Rocket Clippers recap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8T_d2qs7vs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8T_d2qs7vs)

edit 2: TWEETS!!!
(https://i.imgur.com/XHwNY9y.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/WE2KcXJ.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/MVJZj5W.png)

edit 3: ESPN Article!!
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22116253/houston-rockets-push-la-clippers-locker-room (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22116253/houston-rockets-push-la-clippers-locker-room)

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LOS ANGELES -- In the aftermath of a cantankerous loss, Houston Rockets forward Trevor Ariza and stars Chris Paul and James Harden marched through a back corridor and into the LA Clippers' locker room late Monday night, suggesting that they wanted to confront Clippers players Austin Rivers and Blake Griffin, league sources told ESPN.

Rockets guard Gerald Green joined Ariza, Paul and Harden through the connecting hallway and breached the entrance of the home team's locker room.

Stunned Clippers players, celebrating a 113-102 victory, leaped to their feet upon the realization that four seething Rockets players had come calling for them, sources told ESPN.

For a few fleeting moments, several Clippers dared the Rockets to come farther into the room, sources said. Security and team officials soon converged on the Rockets, pushing them out the door and back toward the visiting locker room, sources said. Ariza was described as the first one through the door, with Paul lingering in the back, witnesses told ESPN.

EDITOR'S PICKS

CP3 draws mixed reception in return to L.A.
The boos for Chris Paul weren't the reason it was a disappointing return to L.A. for the former Clippers star, with his Rockets falling 113-102 at Staples Center on Monday night.

Clippers beat Paul, Rockets 113-102 for 5th win in a row
Lou Williams scored 31 points, Blake Griffin added 29 before his ejection, and the Los Angeles Clippers defeated the Houston Rockets 113-102 on Monday night in Chris Paul's heated return to Staples Center against his old team.

"It was classic NBA," one Clippers witness told ESPN. "None of these guys were going to fight."[/]
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on January 16, 2018, 03:36:46 PM
Wow. Hysterical.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 26, 2018, 09:12:21 PM
New News in the NBA....

Warriors play Celtics tomorrow, but Marcus Smart will be out with "lacerations" to his hands suffered during some off-court incident.
What could have happened!?
Well.... apparently Smart knocked up some hood rat, who is posting on IG that he is now paying all her bills, and that he apparently hates her and that she has him all "fucked up right now". She is apparently threatening to release their porno's.... and suddenly, Smart has "lacerations" to his hands suffered during an off-court incident. Could be a coincident... but I think we all know what it's related to.

and in other Terrible News... :(
Boogie Cousins helped lead the Pelicans to another win against the Rockets, but unfortunately didn't get to see the end of game because he tore his achillies with 8.1 seconds left in the game. He will miss the rest of the season... (maybe even some of the next?).
This is a contact year for Boogie, he has been playing exceptional bball, the Pelicans were finally gelling, he was all but guaranteed to make it to his first playoff series, and was selected as an All-Star.
It's never a good time for an injury, especially one like this, but this is a terrible time for it to happen. Hopefully he makes a full recovery.

I'm also thinking that PG13 will take his All-Star slot on Team Lebron, so now Brodie and his moth eaten fashion can settle down as PG will not only be in the AS game, but on the same team as him.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on January 27, 2018, 01:22:06 PM
That’s awful about Smart. If all of that is true, I wonder why he felt the need to go after a “hood-rat.”

Shame about Cousins as well. Considering how young he is, he’ll probably bounce back closer to six months than 10. Who knows when/if he returns to form? His contract situation will be interesting this summer. If Wesley Matthews could secure a four-year, $70 million contract with a still torn achilles, Cousins should still do well. Even if there’s some regression to his game, his skills and fundamentals are so good that he’ll still be effective. Who offers Cousins the max though? I feel like the Pelicans have to if the organization hopes to retain Anthony Davis past 2020. If the team disrespects Cousins with a lowball offer, that sends a terrible message. Before the injury, the max was always Cousins’ to turn down. This injury puts the Pelicans is a tough spot. Take a chance and offer Cousins the max with the hope he’s anywhere close to his pre-injury form. Or whiff, alienating the team’s franchise player by telling him the team won’t take care of its players, and there are no concrete plans to get better. With that in mind, Davis either grumbles until he’s traded or walks once his contract is up. Kyrie Irving forced a trade with two years left on his contract. The Cavs did not get equal value. I think there’s a chance we can see this again over the summer.

Westbrook will never settle down. He’s new-Kobe. And I still think Paul George leaves at the end of the year. The Thunder are not an elite team, and Westbrook’s super-max contract makes it that much harder to improve especially with a front office known for penny pinching (e.g. this team should still have James Harden). At the same time, no one is touching Golden State in the playoffs. The team gets bored in the regular season. The rest of the NBA is just hoping and praying Klay Thompson leaves next summer. This relates to George in that no team he can realistically sign with will win championships as long as the Warriors stay together. His choices are either lose on a small market team with no path to improving or lose on a different team that may have a chance at improving. If George signs in a larger market than Oklahoma City (the bar of which is very low), he’ll get all the residual benefits from that.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Soren on January 29, 2018, 04:57:23 PM
Holy **** the Clippers just gave up.


Blake Griffin to Detroit for Tobias Harris, Avery Bradley, Boban and some picks.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on January 29, 2018, 09:52:54 PM
Can’t blame the Clippers. They weren’t going anywhere with the team as constructed. I read the Clippers are probably making a run at LeBron James and/or Paul George.

Elsewhere in Los Angeles Magic Johnson is sweating bullets.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on February 06, 2018, 03:01:23 PM
Magic Johnson just got fined $50,000 for tampering. In an interview with ESPN (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22253673/magic-johnson-expects-giannis-antetokuonmpo-take-milwaukee-bucks-championship), he drew parallels between himself and Giannis Antetokounmpo:
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With his ball-handling skills and his passing ability. He plays above the rim I never could do that. But in his understanding of the game, his basketball IQ, his creativity of shots for his teammates. That's where we [have the] same thing. Can bring it down, make a pass, make a play. I'm just happy he's starting in the All-Star game because he deserves that. And he's going to be like an MVP, a champion, this dude he's going to put Milwaukee on the map. And I think he's going to bring them a championship one day.
Weirdly, Johnson didn’t get fined last year for the winking-at-Paul-George joke on Jimmy Kimmel Live! and even though it was clearly in jest, I expected a tampering fine. The Lakers eventually got fined for Rob Pelinka’s not-tamerping-but-totally-tampering emails. Saying Antetokounmpo will bring the Bucks a title then getting docked on tampering is some bullshit. I could understand if Johnson said he’d love to have Antetokounmpo on his team (and honestly, get in line as there are 28 other teams in the league that would too).

Ultimately, the NBA hasn’t been consistent in handling tampering.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 06, 2018, 07:03:58 PM
Magic Johnson just got fined $50,000 for tampering. In an interview with ESPN (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22253673/magic-johnson-expects-giannis-antetokuonmpo-take-milwaukee-bucks-championship), he drew parallels between himself and Giannis Antetokounmpo:
Quote
With his ball-handling skills and his passing ability. He plays above the rim I never could do that. But in his understanding of the game, his basketball IQ, his creativity of shots for his teammates. That's where we [have the] same thing. Can bring it down, make a pass, make a play. I'm just happy he's starting in the All-Star game because he deserves that. And he's going to be like an MVP, a champion, this dude he's going to put Milwaukee on the map. And I think he's going to bring them a championship one day.
Weirdly, Johnson didn’t get fined last year for the winking-at-Paul-George joke on Jimmy Kimmel Live! and even though it was clearly in jest, I expected a tampering fine. The Lakers eventually got fined for Rob Pelinka’s not-tamerping-but-totally-tampering emails. Saying Antetokounmpo will bring the Bucks a title then getting docked on tampering is some bullshit. I could understand if Johnson said he’d love to have Antetokounmpo on his team (and honestly, get in line as there are 28 other teams in the league that would too).

Ultimately, the NBA hasn’t been consistent in handling tampering.

I agree with that, but I guess the rule is that Front Office personnel cannot talk about active NBA players not on their team.... it's stupid, but Steve Kerr just recently defelcted such a question about Lebron taking a meeting with the Warriors by stating that "should I just pull out my check book now and make it out to Adam Silver!? I'm not answering that question...."

In other news.... #TeamLebron may have yet another replacement on the way.
Kristaps Porzingis may be hurt, and might w/d from AS Game for precautionary reasons....

(Personally I think Lebron is using voodoo/hoodoo on his All-Star Teammates to steal their health and preserve his own health to help lead him to the team of his choice in the off-season)

Most likely replacement at this point is Kemba Walker from the Hornets.
but could be Ben Simmons, "rookie" from the 76ers.
(stay safe KD that curse on #TeamLebron seems legit)


----Also the Cavs had a 9pt 4th qtr (5pts scored in final minutes.... :/) in a big loss to the Orlando Magic. The entire Cavs team is imploding and they FO is no longer consulting LBJ on FO matters...
The team is out of sync, playing terribly and not getting along on or off the court. I'm pretty sure if things don't shape up post ASB, not only will the Cavs be struggling for those bottom playoff spots in the east, but Lebron will be shopping for his next team.
Title: FIRE SALE IN CLEVELAND!!! EVERYONE MUST GO!!!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 08, 2018, 10:48:43 AM
Cleveland making MOVES!!!!!

They just Traded IT and Frye (both on expiriing contracts) and their protected 1st round pick, to the Lakers for Nance Jr. and Clarkson.
also made a trade with Utah and Sac for Hill and Hood, getting rid of Shumpert, Crowder and Derrick Rose.

This clears room for Lakers to pursue to Max Contracts in the off-season (Bron and PG?)
this gets IT out of Lebrons hair, and this also adds some decent youth and scoring to the Cleveland roster.

Oh ****... I'm still playing catch up, but Cleveland also trading Dwayne Wade to the Heat for a heavily protected 2nd round pick. LMAO

still, breaking, will update when I'm caught up!!!
NBA is the best reality TV for the last 2 seasons.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Soren on February 08, 2018, 11:00:46 AM
The real miracle here is how JR Smith survived all these moves.

Also I want to know how LeBron gets to the Finals with Jordan Clarkson, Larry Nance Jr, Rodney Hood and George Hill.


I think Cleveland just straight up gave Wade back to Miami, no questions asked.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 08, 2018, 11:07:36 AM
The real miracle here is how JR Smith survived all these moves.

Also I want to know how LeBron gets to the Finals with Jordan Clarkson, Larry Nance Jr, Rodney Hood and George Hill.


I think Cleveland just straight up gave Wade back to Miami, no questions asked.

Sheer will, determination and a little more of that #TeamBron hoodoo.


What I'd like to know is will the Cavs have a roster for tomorrow's game?
Did Atlanta just get the gimmie game of the year?

edit: LMAO - this is from last nights game.
https://twitter.com/MaxKellermanJr/status/961651099114631168 (https://twitter.com/MaxKellermanJr/status/961651099114631168)

Kyrie after todays trade news:
https://twitter.com/SInow/status/961655855564447744 (https://twitter.com/SInow/status/961655855564447744)
https://twitter.com/bycycle/status/961661300492460033
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on February 08, 2018, 12:15:10 PM
I suspect Dwayne Wade wants to retire and do it from Miami.

His wife is very happy about the news:
https://twitter.com/itsgabrielleu/status/961665217523601409 (https://twitter.com/itsgabrielleu/status/961665217523601409)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on February 08, 2018, 04:16:52 PM
These moves may get the Cavs out of the East, but they still aren’t enough to beat the Warriors or Rockets. It's especially weird that one of their major trades involved the Lakers. "Let us take those contracts off your hands so you have the cap space to sign Lebron James. Also, here's a (top three protected) draft pick."

In any case, the Cavs apparently asked Dwyane Wade if he'd be okay getting traded to Miami, the only fanbase that still treats him like royalty. If Cleveland cut Wade, couldn't another team claim him off waivers? Instead, he gets to go back to the Heat. The front office didn't have to do that so that's a pretty cool story.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on February 10, 2018, 08:09:14 AM
Lonzo Ball is releasing his debut album, “Born 2 Ball,” next week.

I’m disappointed it isn’t titled “Ball’s Deep.”
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 14, 2018, 11:08:45 PM
Rockets head into the All-Star break w/ the NBA's #1 record

Warriors had a helluva game against the Trailblazers though, but Steph and Klay couldn't get it going, yet Lillard and McCollum were just ON FIRE!!!! KD also had 50. it was a good game.
Hopefully the dubs come back from ASB with that fire in their eyes going to take back the #1 seed.
I know we play Portland at least 2 more times in the remainder of the season too... gonna be some good ones, but I think most of our worst is behind us.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on February 15, 2018, 07:44:31 AM
I don't think they need the #1 seed to advance to the finals.  They might be better off not gunning for it and burning the team out.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 15, 2018, 09:07:15 AM
I don't think they need the #1 seed to advance to the finals.  They might be better off not gunning for it and burning the team out.
#1 seed or not, they need to shake some of these defensive bad habits and focus in. You ain't getting the bench in Playoff mode coasting into the playoffs. The starters and returning role players may be on the level when the times comes, but some of the bench need to develop those things that haven't been present for more than minutes during the regular season so far.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on February 15, 2018, 12:04:53 PM
Meanwhile, the Jazz are on an 11 game winning streak & have somehow shot back into Playoff Contention.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Soren on February 21, 2018, 06:50:53 PM
https://deadspin.com/gregg-popovich-on-kawhi-leonard-ill-be-surprised-if-h-1823209934

I didn't think Kawhi's relationship with the Spurs was that bad. But it looks like it is.

Quote
Woj has a report on ESPN that cites sources who say that Leonard has been medically cleared to return from his right quad injury. However, he has so far chosen not to return to the active roster.


Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 25, 2018, 10:27:12 AM
https://deadspin.com/gregg-popovich-on-kawhi-leonard-ill-be-surprised-if-h-1823209934 (https://deadspin.com/gregg-popovich-on-kawhi-leonard-ill-be-surprised-if-h-1823209934)

I didn't think Kawhi's relationship with the Spurs was that bad. But it looks like it is.

Quote
Woj has a report on ESPN that cites sources who say that Leonard has been medically cleared to return from his right quad injury. However, he has so far chosen not to return to the active roster.

Wait.... so Kawhi chose not to play?
I heard he wanted to play, but the team wouldn't let him....

If he is sitting out on his own request... that is really concerning for his future w/ the Spurs.

edit:
Hmmmm twitter says Kawhi could be back next month....
ESPN reporting with @mikecwright: Spurs star Kawhi Leonard has returned to San Antonio to resume working out with team. There's hope of a March return. http://es.pn/2HNNfUp

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/968256157960851457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%23968256157960851457
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on February 28, 2018, 07:51:23 AM
Resuming workouts with the team doesn’t necessarily mean the issues still aren’t there. Even a player who requests a trade will still workout with his team (not saying Kawhi Leonard requested a trade). ESPN suggested Leonard’s uncle, Dennis Robertson (who is also his business manager) may be causing the rift. I expect the Celtics to make a run for him this offseason. Not sure of the fit, but if you have a chance to land a top 3-5 player in the league, you make that move every time and figure it out later.

Anyway, Dwyane Wade hit another game winner. I tend to appreciate players more as they get closer to retiring. Same thing happened with Michael Jordan. I didn’t think about it until end then it hit me, “Man, I’m never going to see this guy play again.”
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on March 01, 2018, 09:01:04 AM
RIP Wesley Johnson
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 01, 2018, 02:48:02 PM
LOL. I knew someone would post the Harden Disrespekt (Not that I can see your YouTube video....)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 02, 2018, 07:40:04 PM
RIP Wesley Johnson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBEV4l9YzOw

There ya go BnM.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 03, 2018, 10:00:32 AM
Oh, I see the disrespekt isn't just on the court. LOL
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 25, 2018, 06:00:20 PM
I found the kicks for Caterkiller

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Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on March 26, 2018, 05:47:11 AM
A couple quick questions:

1. How much trouble are the Warriors in without Steph Curry?

2. Is Kawhi Leonard intentionally tanking his trade value?

Steve Kerr doesn’t think Curry will be ready for the first round of the playoffs. Today, the team would play the Timberwolves. Assuming everyone else comes back, Golden State should win that series.

As for Kawhi Leonard, if I may put on my tinfoil hat, it certainly looks like he’s sending a message to the Spurs as well as every other team in the league: He wants out of San Antonio, but if you’re not a team he’s willing to play for, he is willing to sit out almost an entire season. Leonard is also a free agent next summer. I’m not sure any team trades anything of value under those conditions.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on March 26, 2018, 07:18:47 AM
A couple quick questions:

1. How much trouble are the Warriors in without Steph Curry?

Well, let me put it to you this way: they just got blown out by the Jazz 110-91, who are struggling to even make the playoffs, in Oakland.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on March 26, 2018, 07:48:13 AM
Well, let me put it to you this way: they just got blown out by the Jazz 110-91, who are struggling to even make the playoffs, in Oakland.
Without Curry, Durant, Green, AND Thompson. In my previous post, I specifically said without Curry (since the others are expected to be available for the Playoffs) and Kerr doesn’t expect him back for the first round.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 26, 2018, 09:42:50 AM
A couple quick questions:

1. How much trouble are the Warriors in without Steph Curry?

Well, let me put it to you this way: they just got blown out by the Jazz 110-91, who are struggling to even make the playoffs, in Oakland.

We were literally running the B-Squad, headlined by our G-League rookie running point and as leading scorer. With the addition on Draymond, it might not have been a blow out, but Dray doesn't really provide offense. With the addition of just Klay that would have been a much closer game, and with Durant, a win for sure.

but here is my analysis I posted yesterday elsewhere:
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The Warriors haven't exactly been expending the same effort on defense during this regular season as they may have in the previous 3. If anything, since ASB, they've shown that they are actually capable of playing that kind of defense, they just haven't extended it for more than 1-2 qtrs in any particular game before they became sloppy and passive again. (in other words, this team has not been focused/"locked in" this season at all)

And I'm sure we (Warriors) can beat whoever is in the 7th seed w/o Steph, but I really think that comes down to who that ends up being for it is a 5 game or 7 game series.

OKC has an unreal amount of motivation against the Warriors. They only have 7 games left over the next 3 weeks and considering their position, 3 more losses could put them out of the playoffs all together. 5 of their next 7 is against playoff/potential teams (including the nuggets, who have beat them 2/3 games so far this season.) 1 of those games will be against the Warriors who will want to see them miss the playoffs. NO, HOU, SA are the other 3 playoff teams they are facing.

MIN I'm not all that worried about facing, and it's much more likely as they have a much easier schedule than OKC from here on out. 5 of their 8 final games is against teams not making the playoffs, and the only team that poses a potential threat is The Lakers.
The 3 teams they really gotta worry about is DEN x2 and The Jazz

The Spurs w/o Kawhi isn't really on my radar as a threat in a 7 game series. It might go to 5 w/o Curry, but I'm confident we got that. But looking at their upcoming schedule... they might be watching the playoffs from home anyway. 6 of their next 8 are all playoff/potential teams here (7 if you wanna count the Lakers that haven't been technically ruled out yet). The only gimme game they got is vs The Kings

The Pelicans.... they've been playing great, especially after doing 5 in 7 days and only losing 1, that 1 being to the Rockets.
I'm not sure how they'll hang against the Dubs minus Curry, but we've beaten all 3 times this year so far. Getting a clean sweep in the regular season will go along way with cleaning them up in the post season too. Unfortunately for them, 6 of their last 8 are also against playoff/potential teams, but I'm sure they'll win atleast half of those (SA, CLE, LAC, possibly OKC too)

LAC... no worries here. They would be lucky to make it in. 8th seed, 7th seed, 6th seed, i see it being in and out for them. 7 of their final 9 (8 if you count LAL) all playoff/potential teams fighting for position. But like I said, I think they'll be lucky to seed at all.

The Jazz I have some reservations about, but only if they actually start hitting shots and for whatever reason, we haven't flipped that defensive switch. I don't think they take a 7 game series, but I see them making it tough w/o Steph on the floor. I shouldn't even count their next 3 games w/ Memphis, Dallas, and a depleted Celtics. But the 5 games after that, they play the Lakers 2x, and the Clippers, so they have a good chance of maybe climbing up from that 8th seed where they currently sit (hopefully to that 4th or 5th seed tho)

The Nuggets I'm not really sure about. Outside of Jokic, I can't remember who's on the team. I ain't worried about this team though, they just lost to Miami, Memphis and Dallas this month. But their remaining schedule is full of position jockeying teams too, so who knows if they climb into the playoffs or not. Everything is so close between 4-10.

and if you wanna include them....
The Lakers - maybe next year. Great push at the end, but too little too late this season.


The hardest thing to determine is who will be in any position from 4-8
and Steph is determined to come back during the 1st round (assuming it longer than a 4-5 game series).
Kerr thinks we can get by Rnd1 w/o him, but I'd rather he be ready to go just.in.case.


It's a damn shame we can't NBA 2K it and turn off injuries and fatigue so we can get all teams at their best giving their all. This season has been plagued with injuries, luckily some teams are able to weather those storms


So to get back to the question
A couple quick questions:1. How much trouble are the Warriors in without Steph Curry?


in the 1st round... assuming everyone else comes back healthy and no more injuries.... not much. But I doubt any team outside of LAC gets done in less than 5-6 games.

Quinn Cook has turned out to be pretty good. with him running starting Point, and Durant and Klay to outlet to, we'll be alright. He very active on D and producing on O.
but unfortunately McCaw is a BUST offensively. dude can't find his shot for nothing. another '15/'16 Harrison Barnes.
2nd unit w/ Klay, Liviingston and West will be fine as long as the later two can hit shots.
if the 2nd unit can maintain or extend a lead, we are in good shape.
Bell needs to be a little more aggressive on Offense, and Damion Jones didn't look bad in his limited minutes last nite either.

Overall I think we'll be fine in the 1st round.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Caterkiller on March 26, 2018, 04:22:08 PM
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Oh lord! Man if I shoes like those it would change everything...

I would seriously rock those! Rock em hard!
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on April 09, 2018, 06:24:37 AM
I acknowledge my cold take on the Jazz. No one thought Donovan Mitchell was going to be this good in his rookie year. I’d still lean toward Ben Simmons for Rookie of the Year. Mitchell can ball though.

I also acknowledge my cold take regarding the Pacers. Jebus, Victor Oladipo is playing well above expectations this year. Time will tell if that’s sustainable. I won’t make any predictions considering how wrong I was. The Jimmy Butter trade is still trash though. I don’t know what the hell the Bulls were thinking.

I’m on the fence regarding the Kyrie Irving trade. The Celtics got the best player. Full stop. However, considering Irving’s sulking, the Cavs didn’t do terribly. Using the pieces from that trade, the Cavs got some decent young pieces and still have the Nets’ lottery pick this summer. It shouldn’t be too difficult to trade Kevin Love should the team decide to tank next season.

I don’t know if the Rockets are as good as their record. I still expect to see Warriors vs Cavaliers for the 37th time in a row. At the same time, as illustrated above, I’m pretty awful at basketball hot takes.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 10, 2018, 06:57:47 AM
Well Portland's collapse was unexpected. If the Jazz win their 2 remaining games, they'll have the #3 seed in the West. Not bad for a team that was lottery-bound in December.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 10, 2018, 08:22:50 AM
Warriors are screwed right now.

If OKC shows up, and you know they have the unreal level of motivation against KD and the Warriors, but they don't have Curry to draw defensive out of the paint, I can only hope the Warriors really do have a "switch" and actually flip it so they can make it to the 2nd round.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 10, 2018, 07:20:41 PM
I see the Warriors decided to throw tonight's game, so it looks like the Jazz just need to win tomorrow night to win the 3rd Seed.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 10, 2018, 08:54:02 PM
It's a damn shame we couldn't beat either NO or OKC tho.... because we really don't want no OKC w/o Curry.

Our team lacks a motivator right now. Durant is just kinda there.... Dray just chillin trying not to get his last Tech. and Klay is just trying get his 20.

Tonights game was pathetic on both ends of the floor for the Warriors.
I really hope it's all a motivation thing. If we had atleast beat the Jazz... I think they woulda moved down to 7th, as OKC owns the tie breaker. But I'm not sure if OKC is stuck at 7th yet...

And I never thought I would see POR in trouble of losing the 3rd seed with how good they were playing. I thought they were up enough games that even a minor collapse wouldn't change their positioning. I guess McCollum just couldn't keep it afloat alone.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on April 11, 2018, 06:09:53 AM
I’m not ready to panic regarding the Warriors yet. Teams care more in the Playoffs, and the Warriors were never in danger of falling below the second seed so games like last night didn’t move the needle. I don’t think it matters who they play. They’re still the team to beat in the West just like the Cavs, even as the fourth seed, is the team to beat in the East.

Three to nine in the West is crazy close. It’s interesting that the Spurs and Pelicans are playing each other and the Timberwolves and Nuggets are playing each other in the final games.

Still, I only partially care. The Jazz and the Sixers are great stories, but the NBA is so top heavy that it almost doesn’t matter. I’m personally rooting for the Sixers in the Playoffs because I’ve lived in and around Philadelphia my entire life. I root for them except when they play the Lakers. I don’t expect the Sixers to go anywhere though it’s a successful season for them either way.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 11, 2018, 06:18:06 PM
I wanted to hop on this morning, but I've been crazy busy all day. on the radio they said that OKC can't even be in 7th regardless of who wins loses today. LOL

Jazz could end up with the 3rd seed, and Nuggets could be in the playoffs making MIN sit out for the 14th year in a row.

Warriors could end up playing the Spurs, Pels, TWolves or Nuggets....
all much more easier targets than an ultra motivated OKC witha Curry-less Warriors.


edit: All is good in the Golden State. We got the Kawhi-less Spurs. :D
and good for TWolves making it in at the 8th seed vs the slightly weakened Rockets.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 11, 2018, 08:29:08 PM
Looks like annihilating the Warriors last night took too much out of the Jazz, as they're set to lose to the Blazers, which I believe would move them down to the 5th seed against the Thunder.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 11, 2018, 08:31:50 PM
Up by 40 at the half on a clearly unmotivated Warriors should have clued them to tap the breaks a little and save the rest for tonight.

But the Blazers do have DameDolla back, and he was motivated to get that 3 seed back.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on April 11, 2018, 08:32:12 PM
I wanted to hop on this morning, but I've been crazy busy all day. on the radio they said that OKC can't even be in 7th regardless of who wins loses today. LOL
I was trying to figure out which team would end up where based on tie-breakers then realized it didn’t matter.

Looks like the Warriors will play the Spurs.
(https://i.imgur.com/NrHNlX1_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 11, 2018, 08:37:09 PM
just an FYI, but Kawhi is out for a leg injury.... thigh or something. Zaza took out an ankle last year

We got the best possible outcome for having slept walked through the majority of this season with a beer in one hand and a bag of cheetos in the other. But if Kawhi suddenly decides he gonna play now.... I'm not sure how I'd feel about that.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on April 11, 2018, 08:47:34 PM
just an FYI, but Kawhi is out for a leg injury.... thigh or something. Zaza took out an ankle last year
It’s his quad. I figured they were related.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 11, 2018, 09:07:05 PM
just an FYI, but Kawhi is out for a leg injury.... thigh or something. Zaza took out an ankle last year
It’s his quad. I figured they were related.

They're not, but I didn't want to ruin the meme. Zaza got away with a dirty play, intentional or not.
Quad injury was a pre-existing irritant I believe.




So here's what happens after the next 8 game minutes are up in the POR v UTA game
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If portland wins we get

Rockets vs Wolves
OKC vs Utah
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Portland vs NoP
Warriors vs Spurs


If Jazz win, we get

Rockets vs Wolves
Portland vs NoP
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OKC vs Jazz
Warriors vs Spurs

FYI, Portland is currently winning, and Dame wants that 3 seed.
so.... GO PORTLAND!!!

edit:
LOL
(https://i.imgur.com/38dM5V9.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 11, 2018, 10:21:27 PM
Oh well...we didn't win the Division & the 3rd seed, and the Thunder are probably the worst matchup the Jazz could have in the 1st round. Still, considering where we started this season, ending with the 5th seed is still a win in my books.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 11, 2018, 10:55:01 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/trmqxBV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/roz70kq.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/x1StlFu.png)
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 14, 2018, 10:25:39 PM
(https://scontent-sjc3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/812d8ea560086a3e8a5e7be59fb85d08/5B500F60/t51.2885-15/e35/30590525_1012568222231230_4894302348337217536_n.jpg)

There's also been 2 episodes of Game of Zones
(I might edit in links later..... but probably not)


edit: and these Donovan Mitchell's he's wearing tomorrow are pretty dope.
(https://i.imgur.com/C8IQHYU.jpg)

I'd rock these, but gotta remove the "rookie" on them first. I know why he has it on there, but I would need something else there instead.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 17, 2018, 10:11:51 PM
+
Portland is in trouble. Down 2-0 to the Pelicans after hosting home court i nteh 1st 2 games..... smh.
They probably ain't making 2nd round, but hopefully they can make a series out of this and not get swept 2 years in a row.
They ain't made the 2nd round since 2014. So Dame Dolla better sync his watch for Central Time so he knows what time it is once he get to New Orleans.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on April 18, 2018, 06:22:43 PM
Go Pels!  #DoItBIGGER
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 18, 2018, 07:39:09 PM
OK, there we go: after being humiliated in the 1st game in the series, the Jazz came back & won Game 2 against the Thunder. I wasn't able to watch the game since apparently the Playoffs are on NBA TV now...and I don't have it. However, judging by the play-by-play text, the Thunder tried to 3 point shoot their way out of their problems...and it failed spectacularly at the end.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 18, 2018, 09:49:21 PM
I'm glad the Jazz didn't let me down tonight. Everyone else did.

Pacers almost pulled it off, but if it wasn't for Lebron going 20-4 by himself against Indy in the opening to the 1st quarter, Cavs lose this game by 10. Lebron going to Philly in the off season

The Timberpups were disappointing today. They had another solid opportunity to topple the Rockets and squandered it again by once again going cold and playing like ****. The Rockets were not shooting good and were beyond vulnerable. The Nuggets could've gotten the job done.
I hope the Pups show up at home. this last game was beyond embarrassing (and boring... this is the game that should have been on NBA TV).
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on April 19, 2018, 12:07:57 PM
Crazy to think that this could be the first time in SEVEN YEARS that LeBron doesn't make it to the Finals.  He may not even make it out of the first round.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 19, 2018, 09:36:51 PM
Crazy to think that this could be the first time in SEVEN YEARS that LeBron doesn't make it to the Finals.  He may not even make it out of the first round.

Man I been saying that for months. For a minute, it looked like he might not even make the playoffs.
Lebron can't carry his team to the finals if the last 3 games show all the rest of the team is capable of bring to the table. Especially when Love is hurt again.
Cavs only won game 2 because OLADIPOOOOO!!!! got those 2 quick fouls and was out for most of the 1st qtr.
2 more minutes to the game, and I bet Pacers woulda won.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 20, 2018, 05:19:19 AM
Man, what is going ON with the Blazers? The Pelicans are just wiping the floor with them. It's like winning that last game against the Jazz to secure the 3rd seed drained them of all their will to fight.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on April 20, 2018, 10:17:22 AM
Crazy to think that this could be the first time in SEVEN YEARS that LeBron doesn't make it to the Finals.  He may not even make it out of the first round.

Man I been saying that for months. For a minute, it looked like he might not even make the playoffs.
Lebron can't carry his team to the finals if the last 3 games show is all the rest of teh team is capable of bring to the table. Especially when Love is hurt again.
Cavs only won game 2 because OLADIPOOOOO!!!! got those 2 quick fouls and was out for most of the 1st qtr.
2 more minutes to the game, and I bet Pacers woulda won.

He's carried an arguably worse team to the finals before (only to get swept), but competition is stiffer for him now.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 20, 2018, 03:49:32 PM
This current team of LeBron hasn't had the luxury of an entire regular season to "figure it out".
LeBron tired himself out in the 1st quarter of the last game scoring all the starting points.
And the only reason the Cavs had that kind of lead in the first place,  was because Oladipo carries his team, and from what I hear, they are absolute trash when he isn't on the floor. So the 2 quick fouls the that whole 1st quarter out of whack.
Oladipo I think only had 1 more fouls the entire rest of the game, abs they only lost by 3 at the very last second.

I don't think Lebron can do that for 11 more wins just to get to the NBA finals. They barely got that game 2 victory.
And now even K.Love is playing injured again.
I could be wrong... And they may invent a Playoff MVP for LeBron if he gets his team there, but I just don't see it happening.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on April 20, 2018, 04:51:17 PM
It’s the Raptor’s year to lose to the Warriors in the NBA Finals.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 20, 2018, 05:29:58 PM
I said something, so now the rest of the Cavs showed up to play today (and in style, since they all showed up in matching tailored suits).... at least for the first half.

LeBron can't do it all. Love had to play through the pain, and EVERYONE else on that team needs to step it the **** up.
Sounds like the message was already delivered.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on April 20, 2018, 06:16:15 PM
Ha, ha. Yeah, not so fast on that one.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on April 20, 2018, 07:08:49 PM
LOL, Cavs. I don’t hate the team. I just really hate Dan Gilbert.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 20, 2018, 07:24:56 PM
Good on the Wizards & Bucks putting up an actual fight tonight. I've always thought that if the 1st Round was going to be so spectacularly boring & one-sided, they should take it back to 5 games instead of the extended 7-game series.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 20, 2018, 10:15:34 PM
Ha, ha. Yeah, not so fast on that one.
LOL, Cavs. I don’t hate the team. I just really hate Dan Gilbert.

I didn't get to see/listen to the 2nd half buy LMAO @ The Cavs.
can't believe they blew that 17pt lead at the half, and almost came back to just to come up short.
Bron going to Philly next year. I'm tellin you. Finals ain't happening. I'm very doubtful on a game 6 in the 1st round at this point. LOL

I'm really hoping the Trailblazers and the Timberwolves can get at least 1 win in tomorrow.
Trailblazers are already in a Win or Go Home situation..... (3 seed getting picked on by the 6th, smfh)
Utah also need needs to go up 2-1 on OKC
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 21, 2018, 07:08:54 AM
Ha, ha. Yeah, not so fast on that one.
LOL, Cavs. I don’t hate the team. I just really hate Dan Gilbert.

I didn't get to see/listen to the 2nd half buy LMAO @ The Cavs.
can't believe they blew that 17pt lead at the half, and almost came back to just to come up short.
Bron going to Philly next year. I'm tellin you. Finals ain't happening. I'm very doubtful on a game 6 in the 1st round at this point. LOL

I'm really hoping the Trailblazers and the Timberwolves can get at least 1 win in tomorrow.
Trailblazers are already in a Win or Go Home situation..... (3 seed getting picked on by the 6th, smfh)
Utah also need needs to go up 2-1 on OKC

To be fair to the Blazers, Seeds 3-8 in the West were separated by something like 1-2 games, so this year 6 beating 3 is not that unheard of.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 21, 2018, 09:30:19 AM
Ha, ha. Yeah, not so fast on that one.
LOL, Cavs. I don’t hate the team. I just really hate Dan Gilbert.

I didn't get to see/listen to the 2nd half buy LMAO @ The Cavs.
can't believe they blew that 17pt lead at the half, and almost came back to just to come up short.
Bron going to Philly next year. I'm tellin you. Finals ain't happening. I'm very doubtful on a game 6 in the 1st round at this point. LOL

I'm really hoping the Trailblazers and the Timberwolves can get at least 1 win in tomorrow.
Trailblazers are already in a Win or Go Home situation..... (3 seed getting picked on by the 6th, smfh)
Utah also need needs to go up 2-1 on OKC

To be fair to the Blazers, Seeds 3-8 in the West were separated by something like 1-2 games, so this year 6 beating 3 is not that unheard of.

Looking back... Blazers had the 3 seed by a nice sized margin for a long time before Lillard went down just before the end of the season. But you are right about the final records. 3-10 were all really close in the end.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 21, 2018, 04:03:10 PM
Blazers are less than 18 game minutes away from watching the rest of the playoffs from home.

Pelicans on sniper mode. They making EVERYTHING right now. I don't see much hope for a comeback, even if Blazers get hot right now.

edit: Yep. Blazers swept 2 years in a row in the first round.
I believe that's 10 straight Playoff losses in a row for Portland.

and they out the playoffs before some teams even played a game 3.... what's the rush Portland?

Do they make some major changes in the off season or just tweak it a little?

Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 21, 2018, 07:04:38 PM
Meanwhile, even the Timberpups had the self-respect to win ONE game against the Rockets. -_-
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on April 21, 2018, 09:33:40 PM
1. “Thanks for beating the Thunder again.” - Signed, Magic Johnson

2. I don’t really keep up with the Jazz so this is the first time I’ve seen them, but what the hell is up with those alt jerseys? Ew.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 21, 2018, 09:34:59 PM
And the Jazz have now taken the lead in their series against the Thunder, 2-1, with a commanding 115-102 win.

Ricky Rubio had a triple-double with 26 points, 11 rebounds, and 10 assists. Meanwhile, Russel Westbrook and Carmelo Anthony combined for 28 points.

Yeah...I don't see this series turning against the Jazz at this point the way they're currently playing.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 21, 2018, 09:35:33 PM
1. “Thanks for beating the Thunder again.” - Signed, Magic Johnson

2. I don’t really keep up with the Jazz so this is the first time I’ve seen them, but what the hell is up with those alt jerseys? Ew.

Yeah, I despise the Orange jerseys & that wretched red court.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 21, 2018, 09:59:33 PM
What I want to know is why was Kyrie courtside talking to Donovan Mitchell at the game tonight....
I know he ain't playing right now, but the Celtics have a morning game tomorrow.

and the SportCenter guys agree on The Jazz uniforms and court
"The uniforms are TERRIBLE, and the court is.... dicey..." - SC @ Night

LOL
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 21, 2018, 10:52:27 PM
Russel Westbrook is taking getting humiliated by Ricky Rubio well. -_-

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/987929077528125440 (https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/987929077528125440)

"I'm going to shut that s*** off next game, though. I guarantee that."
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 22, 2018, 09:01:09 AM
So yeah...there is a reason for those fugly flame-based Jazz uniforms & court: they're supposed to symbolize the Utah sunset over the Red Rocks mountain range.

Yeah...no. I'm FROM Utah, and even I find that reference to be way too obscure. The gradients overcomplicate the uniforms, and fire is the theme of the Phoenix Suns, not the Jazz. We've always used a music or ice theme.

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/12/25/16817926/utah-jazz-uniforms-new-city-sunset (https://www.sbnation.com/2017/12/25/16817926/utah-jazz-uniforms-new-city-sunset)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 22, 2018, 11:46:37 AM
The uni would make more sense for the Suns
but the uni and the court has been distracting enough for them to get up 2-1 over OKC in the playoffs. ;)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on April 22, 2018, 02:35:48 PM
The Heat’s Miami Vice jerseys are the only alts I liked more than the standard ones.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Shaymin on April 22, 2018, 03:25:03 PM
Will sell Raptors team name for a buck to whoever wants it.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 22, 2018, 10:06:17 PM
The Heat’s Miami Vice jerseys are the only alts I liked more than the standard ones.

Those jerseys are FIRE tho.
it should become the main home jersey. lol

Everyone I wanted to win today lost.... except the Bucks.

I was really banking on the Pacers v Cavs game, but Oladipo let me down.
I don't really care about the Raptors/Wizards... but the Raps need to shut them down already
and I figured the Dubs would drop one to the Spurs after the new w/ Pop, but I figured it would've been the last game... not today's game. Oh well, we'll just have to finish it at home on Tuesday.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on April 23, 2018, 06:03:04 AM
The Heat’s Miami Vice jerseys are the only alts I liked more than the standard ones.

Those jerseys are FIRE tho.
it should become the main home jersey. lol
I’d go as far as just changing the team colors and making the Vice Nights jerseys the main ones for home and away.

I looked up the other alt jerseys. Some are pretty good (e.g. Bulls, Kings) while most of the rest are plain/inoffensive (e.g. Mavericks, Pistons). Jazz, Spurs, and Magic are at the very bottom.
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Everyone I wanted to win today lost.... except the Bucks.
Yep. The Cavs losing would have been curtains for them. They don’t have the talent to dig out of a 3-1 hole. No idea what the heck the Raptors are doing.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on April 23, 2018, 02:31:31 PM
The Heat’s Miami Vice jerseys are the only alts I liked more than the standard ones.

Those jerseys are FIRE tho.
it should become the main home jersey. lol
I’d go as far as just changing the team colors and making the Vice Nights jerseys the main ones for home and away.

Gonna have to strongly agree with this one.  Those jerseys put everyone else to shame.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 23, 2018, 06:52:15 PM
Hello? Police? I'd like to report a murder. #RocketsvWolvesGame3Quarter3
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 23, 2018, 07:01:19 PM
Hello? Police? I'd like to report a murder. #RocketsvWolvesGame3Quarter3

Hello Caller... can you describe the culprit?

(https://i.imgur.com/ZYbMsWA.jpg)
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Post by: Shaymin on April 23, 2018, 07:06:16 PM
nice
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 23, 2018, 09:13:02 PM
I didn't expect much out of the Timberpups, but damn are they disappointing.
Outside of that 3rd quarter, please let the Jazz play the Houston team that's shown up for the rest of the series. And should GS match off against HOU in the WCF, please let that same Rockets team show up.

At least the Jazz are keeping me more than entertained right now. They need to take it to WB though. Get him in Foul Trouble in the 3rd.


edit: It's so funny that WB is so focused on "Shutting that **** down" in reference to Rubio smoking his ass w/ a triple double in the last game, that he is now not only not shutting down Rubio but getting smoked by Rookie D. Mitchell too. LMAO


Utah gonna finish this in OKC. PG gonna hitch a ride with Utah to Houston, and then catch the connecting flight to LA. LMAO

edit2:
(https://i.imgur.com/5uTjdvF.png)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 23, 2018, 10:24:13 PM
I swear, by the end of the series someone's going to throw a punch, the way this game went, with constant game stoppages for flying elbows & technical fouls. -_-'

Yeah, this was a fun one to watch as the Jazz crushed the Thunder 113-96. I was a little nervous for the first 1.5 quarters when the Jazz couldn't buy a bucket & the Refs seemed determined to take this game over (including a phantom foul on the Jazz when one of the Thunder players hit Westbrook). However, the Jazz managed to grind down the Thunder & stay in the game until the shots finally started landing halfway through the 2nd quarter. And from there, the Jazz were off to the races. This game was never in danger of falling out of their control after the first half.

I'm proud of this team. They remind me of the 90s-era Jazz in the sheer energy & hustle I saw on the court. If there was a loose ball, there was a Jazz man making a run for it & quite frequently knocking it back into play. They played hard, and they showed the Thunder that they are more than their match, despite not having the "star power". This team plays with a chip on their shoulder after a season of everyone writing them off after Hayward bailed.

And Russel Westbrook can go **** off. He was so focused on his little one-sided pissing match with Rubio that he didn't realize that Rubio isn't supposed to be a primary scorer with the Jazz. Rubio doesn't care if Westbrook shuts him down from a scoring perspective. His job, as the Point Guard, is to get the ball to the players who can best make the shots. He was so focused on Rubio that, meanwhile, every other major Jazz player was having the time of their life.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 25, 2018, 05:30:56 AM
Someone explain to me how the Rockets & Timberwolves is "MUST-SEE TNT TV", but the Jazz & OKC tonight is relegated to NBA TV. -_-

On a side note, the Warriors & 76ers advanced last night, as expected.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on April 25, 2018, 05:54:37 AM
Because the Rockets are the better, more popular team?

Last night may have been Dwayne Wade’s last game. I hope he comes back for another season so people have a chance to prepare to see an all-time great one last time.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 25, 2018, 07:13:06 AM
Because the Rockets are the better, more popular team?

Despite the fact that it's likely going to be a boring game & a blowout? The last Jazz-Thunder game was not only great basketball, but featured multiple on-court altercations. If that doesn't scream "more worthy of national attention" than a 20-30 point blowout by the Top Team in the league over an 8th seed, I don't know what does.

And SPEAKING of those altercations, Russell Westbrook's been fined $10,000 & issued a post-game technical foul for iniating an altercation with Utah's Rudy Golbert while at the scorer's table. The actual RULES say that's a 1 Game Suspension, but since when has the NBA ever applied their own rules when a "star" is involved? I guarantee you that Rudy would be sitting a game if the situation was reversed.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on April 25, 2018, 07:35:00 AM
Doesn’t matter. The Rockets were the best team this year by record. The only other teams that will get more national coverage are the Warriors (defending champs, four all-stars) and maybe the Cavs (because LeBron). I’m not saying I agree with it, but if you want an explanation, it’s as simple as popular teams get priority. The Jazz and Thunder are small market teams that likely won’t make it to the Finals. TNT doesn’t care which may be a better game; it cares which one gets more viewers. The Rockets posted the first 50 point playoff quarter in over 50 years. People want to watch that team. I don’t, but other people do.

And I just realized “Dwyane” got auto-corrected.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 25, 2018, 09:10:24 AM
How do you guys see the Dubs performing against the Pels for the first 2 home games in Oakland w/o Curry?

I'm really hoping they play get it together, because they've been too lax on most things all season and now there isn't a fine tuned defensive front, as they haven't practiced it all season.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 25, 2018, 10:19:24 AM
How do you guys see the Dubs performing against the Pels for the first 2 home games in Oakland w/o Curry?

I'm really hoping they play get it together, because they've been too lax on most things all season and now there isn't a fine tuned defensive front, as they haven't practiced it all season.

I think that series goes 6 games, but could go either way depending on how much New Orleans wants it & how determined the Warriors are to coasting through the round.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on April 25, 2018, 10:22:45 AM
I think the Pels can steal one on the road here.  They did a good job defensively with Dame, so I'm thinking they can keep KD at bay (no pun intended) and with Steph out, Klay and Draymond might not be enough to outscore AD and Jrue who seem to have ascended to super-saiyan levels.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on April 25, 2018, 04:20:42 PM
4-1, Warriors with Curry. 4-2 Warriors without Curry.

Anthony Davis is amazing, a top 5 player. I’m not buying that the Pelicans are as good as they looked against the Blazers. Golden State is a much more talented team. Full stop.
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Post by: Adrock on April 25, 2018, 07:21:46 PM
Come on, Pacers.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 25, 2018, 07:29:22 PM
The Jazz are currently wiping the floor with the Thunder in Game 5. It's amazing how OKC refuses to learn from their mistakes. They're still running Iso plays while the Jazz are whipping the ball all over the court.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 25, 2018, 08:48:31 PM
The Jazz are currently wiping the floor with the Thunder in Game 5. It's amazing how OKC refuses to learn from their mistakes. They're still running Iso plays while the Jazz are whipping the ball all over the court.

Jazz: ::sweating::
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 25, 2018, 08:53:21 PM
The Jazz are currently wiping the floor with the Thunder in Game 5. It's amazing how OKC refuses to learn from their mistakes. They're still running Iso plays while the Jazz are whipping the ball all over the court.

Jazz: ::sweating::

Smh...oh well, looks like we'll have to finish them off in Game 6. Westbrook won't go nuts like this again, and I don't think Snyder will let this team get so goddamn complacent again.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on April 25, 2018, 09:01:12 PM
Come on, Jazz.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on April 26, 2018, 05:47:08 PM
NBA admitted it missed Lebron’s goaltend last night. /slow clap
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 26, 2018, 08:30:22 PM
NBA admitted it missed Lebron’s goaltend last night. /slow clap

Wait...you're saying that the NBA has a tradition of conveniently *missing" rule-breaking by Stars who bring the NBA lots of money? Nooooo.... :P

Seriously, Jazz fans have a history of grievances with the League over bogus calls (or lack thereof) in the name of Big Market Stars costing us at least one championship.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 26, 2018, 11:53:27 PM
NBA admitted it missed Lebron’s goaltend last night. /slow clap

2 minute report and pointing it out after the fact does nothing to change the end result.
Pacers had a chance to be up 3-2. That moment is now forever gone. Them admitting they fucked up afterwards does not fix this. It only strengthens the belief of the audience that "the refs suck" and that their team got screwed.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 27, 2018, 08:53:51 PM
****...Ricky Rubio's injured. Left hamstring. That could signal the end of us in the playoffs.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on April 27, 2018, 09:31:14 PM
Yeah, but let’s talk about our lord and savior, Donovan Mitchell.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 27, 2018, 10:11:57 PM
Yeah, but let’s talk about our lord and savior, Donovan Mitchell.

Yeah, seriously. SOMEHOW, despite losing Rubio & despite OKC having 5-6 consecutive chances to tie the game in the last minute, the Jazz held on to win 96-91 and advance to a really rough series with Houston.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on April 27, 2018, 10:14:09 PM
The Jazz apparently forgot how to rebound in the last minute of the most important game of their season so far. Then, they fouled Paul George shooting a three pointer. TWICE. Good thing the refs suddenly turned into the shrug emoji both times.

Thanks for helping the Lakers sign Paul George in July, Jazz.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 28, 2018, 06:42:57 PM
Now the Pacers need to do their part and send Lebron to Philly.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on April 28, 2018, 08:13:45 PM
If any team has a chance to sign LeBron, they should do so and figure it out later. Still, the Sixers make the least sense for LeBron. He’s 33, and unless he changes his game (he won’t), the Sixers are taking the ball out of Ben Simmons’ hands. They should make a run for Kawhi Leonard or wait a year and make a run for Jimmy Butler. Then again, get in line. The Sixers have assets though.

Disappointed a depleted Celtics beat the Bucks. Whomp.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 28, 2018, 09:02:43 PM
Bucks are a HUGE disappointment.
Watch Kyrie come back if they make the 3rd round though. LOL

And who would've known... but the Warriors and KILLING the Pels at Halftime.
76-55 Dubs.

Crazy 3/4 court shot made by the Pels at the buzzer to bring it that close.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on April 29, 2018, 01:15:25 PM
Looks like we're stuck w/ the Cavs in the 2nd round, and it looks like this is likely as far as the Jazz can go without Ricky Rubio.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 29, 2018, 07:04:33 PM
Lebron basically willed his team to that victory. Hopefully the Raps will show up and finish what the Pacers just weren't ready to do.

and that Rockets game was boring AF. I ope Utah can make the adjustments w/o Rubio for game 2 and make this a series early.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on April 30, 2018, 07:42:14 AM
Well, with Steph coming back and that game 1 performance, I'm just gonna hope the Pels don't get swept.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on May 01, 2018, 07:59:11 PM
I see the Raptors are doing what they do best. After all these years, a lot of things have changed, but the Raptors are still the Raptors.

(https://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on May 01, 2018, 08:31:01 PM
How I feel about the Sixers and Raptors right now:
(https://i.imgur.com/ee2AG5o.gif)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 02, 2018, 06:10:33 AM
Raptors are a bunch of Choke Artist.

Valancunias got something like 26 rebounds, mostly from getting his own misses that he just continues to miss from 3 inches away from the rim... pathetic. had he made just one of those 7-8 putbacks of his own initial miss... smh
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on May 02, 2018, 05:47:24 PM
The Jazz are showing some life tonight. Hopefully, they keep it up.

Charles Barkley: "The Utah Jazz aren't good enough to expose the flaws in Houston."

The Jazz are currently up by 16 in the 2nd quarter. In Houston.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on May 02, 2018, 06:15:28 PM
broodwars, stop doing this. Last time you got cocky, the Thunder came back and won game 5. I really need the Rockets to lose this game series.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on May 02, 2018, 06:22:01 PM
broodwars, stop doing this. Last time you got cocky, the Thunder came back and won game 5. I really need the Rockets to lose this game series.

No cockiness, just pointing out that the Jazz can hang with them and Charles Barkley's full of crap. We might lose this game, & we might win it. But right now, we're in the game despite the Refs basically calling a foul every time Harden so much as touches the ball and sometimes when it doesn't. Ingles got a foul just now when a Rockets player pushed him into Harden. -_-
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on May 02, 2018, 07:45:09 PM
MVP of the game... Joe Ingles?

Whatever, I’ll take it.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on May 02, 2018, 07:45:32 PM
BOOYAH! The Jazz...SOMEHOW...held off to beat the Rockets in Game 2 116-108.

Let's be honest here: the Jazz got really lucky that the Rockets shot as badly as they did, but Dante Exum; Alex Burks; & especially Ingles played incredibly.

That said, the arrogance of the Rockets was on full display tonight. They played the entire game like they could just "turn it on" at any time, playing complacently in large spurts. They almost got away with it, too, just because they ARE that stupidly stacked with talent. But the Jazz wanted this win, and a team of relative nobodies beat the best team in the league.

Hey, at least we won't be swept, and the pressure's all on Houston. The Jazz weren't supposed to even MAKE the playoffs, let alone the 2nd round.

For the life of me, I don't understand how the Rockets decided to play that last minute. They didn't even try to win by playing the Foul Game. They just conceded the game & let the Jazz walk away practically uncontested.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 02, 2018, 08:41:02 PM
Outside of that ONE quarter in the previous series, the Rockets have shot pretty bad in EVERY game of the playoffs so far. It's a damn shame the Timberwolves only won one game, and just barely.

The Jazz in 6 if the Rockets keep shooting poorly, or a toss up for a game 7.
Playoff Harden won't allow a 2nd round win though. CPlayoff3 is cursed from advancing beyond the 2nd round, so the Jazz have my full support for catching that gentlemans sweep in the WCF vs the Warriors.

And you'll just be happy to get there. Donovan Mitchell has been an amazing get for the Jazz.


edit:
and just because it's hilarious and relevant to this thread.
#InfinityWarSpoilerWithNoContext (https://i.imgur.com/d3Kgb9Y.png)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on May 03, 2018, 07:45:14 AM
Inside the NBA last night was embarrassing to watch. You'd think the Rockets had been beaten by the Orlando Magic, not one if the best teams in the league coming out of the All-Star Break. It's all about how the Rockets slacked off against a lesser team, and it's a sentiment I've seen shared elsewhere today.

The Jazz aren't the most talented team in the League, and they're continually & historically disrespected as a result of it. Our best player is a rookie, and the team's a collection of misfits & 2nd string players. For the most part, that's what the Jazz have been since the end of the Stockton-Malone era However, they're possibly the hardest-working team in the League (along with possibly the 76ers), and they're a better team than their record suggests. Would be nice if they were ever respected as a worthy opponent in these Playoffs by the media.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Soren on May 03, 2018, 05:01:39 PM
Toronto is a joke.


EDIT: It somehow got worse. This team needs to be blown up.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on May 03, 2018, 05:16:15 PM
Really, Toronto? -_-

(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-01-2015/N_mzwM.gif)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on May 03, 2018, 05:24:09 PM
I was listening to ESPN’s Hoop Collective podcast maybe last week, and one of them picked the Cavaliers over the Raptors because he didn’t think the Raptors could win a series if LeBron walks in the building. Well...
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Soren on May 03, 2018, 05:36:30 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcUBFI7X4AA1Oeq.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 03, 2018, 09:10:09 PM
I was listening to ESPN’s Hoop Collective podcast maybe last week, and one of them picked the Cavaliers over the Raptors because he didn’t think the Raptors could win a series if LeBron walks in the building. Well...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcUBFI7X4AA1Oeq.jpg)

fitting......

Raptors are fucking FRAUDS. #1 seed in the East, can't even protect their home court with a lead. SMFH. no one expects them to win, but as the #1 seed, at least make it a damn series.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on May 04, 2018, 06:00:00 PM
*snort*

...really? The Pelicans' home court is called the "Smoothie King Center"? Man, and I thought the Pelicans couldn't get any more lame.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on May 04, 2018, 07:20:42 PM
This game is embarrassing.

Protect home court, Jazz. Plz.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on May 04, 2018, 07:26:39 PM
Well, good on the Pelicans for getting one, because they looked terrible in Games 1 & 2. It looks like Raptors-Cavs will be the only sweep this round.

Well...this is painful. The Jazz look totally out of sync.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on May 04, 2018, 09:26:39 PM
What. The. ****. Jazz.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 05, 2018, 07:33:42 AM
I shut the Dubs game off 3-4 minutes into the 3rd quarter. Decided it was better to just watch score updates than kill my phone battery to watch a livestream (I wasn't at home). It was apparent the Warriors not only weren't going to win, but didn't really seem to care all that much. I figured the Pels would win one anyway, I was just hoping it was game 4 instead of game 3.

and I didn't even bother on the Houston Utah game. saw the opening score of something like 20 to 7 Rockets, and knew the game was a BLOW OUT.

Hopefully the Jazz find balance in game 4.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on May 05, 2018, 07:56:07 PM
I'm out of gifs of the Raptors mascot face-planting.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on May 05, 2018, 08:04:19 PM
Do you have any of the Sixers mascot?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on May 05, 2018, 08:49:13 PM
Do you have any of the Sixers mascot?

I'm afraid the best I can get out of Franklin is a shrug, which seems to sum up the Sixers' approach to this series.

(https://nbcprobasketballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/cd0ymzcznguwzdbhnduynddiytjhm2yyzthlmtjjotqwyyznptaxmdg5odrkmgu4ndziymjmzwyxmda0mwq4zduwmdix.jpeg?w=610&h=343&crop=1)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 06, 2018, 08:54:30 AM
The Sixers did everything they could last night to lose that game... and they succeeded. Good thing they dropped all that confetti.

Has Embiid said anything about their successful loss yet?
#TheProcess... is this all part of it?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 06, 2018, 06:20:43 PM
Dubs put a smackdown on the Pels this afternoon like I knew they would.
Kerr started the Hamptons 5 (aka the new Death Lineup) for the first time ever
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DciTSePX0AMv0KL.jpg)
expected result: Pels getting their teeth kicked in with both feet....
actual result: success


Time to finish this up in Oakland on Tuesday. ;)

Jazz v Rockets.....
Hopefully the Jazz can bounce back in the 2nd half. they need to even this series up and buy more time for Rubio to come back so they have a full squad to compete with.


Oh, and I found this vid regarding Cavs v Raps yesterday. LOL
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bib1N3pFZuJ/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bib1N3pFZuJ/)



and believe it or not, but the Sixers have been the favorites in every single game against the Celtics.... Someone in Vegas making money on these underdog Celtics right now. Sixers are favorites for game 4 as well. I think it was -16.5.
Will the Sixers not only get one, but then be able to pull off the first ever end series sweep?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on May 06, 2018, 06:46:06 PM
*sigh*

Well, best we can do without Rubio, I guess.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 06, 2018, 08:33:32 PM
They had my sword, especially when they got it down to a 5 point game... twice I think.

The Jazz just didn't have enough to win though. All the opportunities to win, but just not enough scoring power to take advantage. Rubio better play next game, even if he's only 75%, because it's win or go home for them on Tuesday.


edit:


but this is what we all waiting on anyway. The Real NBA Finals
(https://i.imgur.com/6i2bOvk.png)

and then the fourpeat match-up which will now be a post credits series.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on May 06, 2018, 10:10:07 PM
At some point, Jazz fans have to just appreciate the effort & hope for a better future. We were already short-handed with the loss of Rubio, and now it looks like we've lost Dante Exum as well for the rest of the series.

We were already short-handed & outgunned before this series began. We made the playoffs despite losing Hayward at the start of the season & Golbert for most of the season, and we beat the Thunder when that was thought unlikely.  So long as Houston has to work for their victory, we can end this series & this season satisfied. We weren't punted right out of the playoffs like the Raptors and Sixers will be. We'll be back next year.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on May 07, 2018, 05:39:35 PM
Huh. The Sixer's won a game. I guess Toronto will just be the sole loser this round.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 07, 2018, 06:04:44 PM
I hear Lebron bought the entire Lebronto squad new matching suits for after the game. it will be waiting for them in the visitors locker room after the game. Purple and Green is the theme, and it will literally be the only thing they have to wear out of the building.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on May 07, 2018, 08:00:14 PM
Raptors fan: Stop, stop! They’re already dead!
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on May 07, 2018, 08:04:50 PM
So it's confirmed now that the Jazz will be without both their starting PG (Rubio) & their backup PG (Exum) for Game 5. Between that & the Refs calling fouls on Jazz players when Harden hits them in the face with the ball, we just can't catch a break.

Can we just...you know...revoke the Raptors' right to be an NBA team? Nothing but a legacy of failure, even in the continually weak Eastern Conference. And lord knows they've had more than enough chances.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 07, 2018, 10:20:24 PM
No Rubio for game 5?

D. Mitchell better go Black Suit Spider-man for the next 3 games ;)

and I agree, the Raptors should be extinct. But the punishment for not forfeiting their right to be an NBA team, they have to open every pre-season game to Barney Music, and he unofficially becomes the team mascot. Oh, and they have to change their name and logo accordingly for at least 1 alt uniform that must be worn no less than 10 home and 10 away games, and that includes every game vs the Cavs or whoever Lebron is playing for next season.

But I'm really hoping Embiid and the Sixers can really give it to the Celtics in the next game. This series need to go to 6 or 7. Sixers are too good to go down 1 and done vs a "depleted" Celtics team.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on May 08, 2018, 07:03:47 PM
Aaaannnnd there goes Donovan Mitchell out of the game, injured. And he was having an amazing night. We just can't win.

Well, I said we'd be happy if the Jazz made the Rockets earn this win, and they did. It took the Rockets 4 quarters & the injury of our star player to take us down. Great effort.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 08, 2018, 11:27:19 PM
I had to catch an Lyft right after the steal from Donovan by Harden... little did I know that was the play that injured him, and he was the ONLY reason the Jazz were in the game still.  Something like a 20 to 6 run  at some point and he out scored the Rockets 22 to 21 by HIMSELF in the 3rd quarter.

He just might be an amazing player in the next few years. If he didn't go down, Jazz had a legitimate chance at extending this series at least 1 more game.

But we would have only been extending the enevitable, and it's time to just get to the MAIN EVEN. Warriors vs Rockets.
We knew it was coming since about 6 months ago. And we know whoever wins the WCF will be the ultimate winner in the end (so long as it's the Dubs.... no faith in the Rockets to shut down the Cavs). The East has looked quite unworthy.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on May 09, 2018, 07:21:22 AM
Rockets vs Warriors should be a good series. I admittedly backed the Jazz because I didn’t want Chris Paul to get to the Conference Finals. I don’t even dislike Paul or anything; I just wanted to see how long the no-CP-in-CF thing could go. It was a good run.
(https://i.imgur.com/JpfJUHE.gif)

Unless the Sixers pull off a miracle, looks like I’m getting behind the Warriors from here on out. After this, I’ll probably be burned out on watching the Warriors dominate.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 09, 2018, 09:07:50 AM
Lets hope for a Warriors sweep of the Rockets.

Nothing more fitting for CP3 than to finally make it to the WCF and then get swept and sent home again.

and I'm rooting for Philly too, but as long as whichever team wins, they BRING IT to Lebron.
None of that pathetic display basketball that the Raps brought to the semi-finals.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on May 09, 2018, 09:48:45 AM
I'd love to see Philly come back, but that team has quite the future ahead of them.  They'll get their ring(s).

I would absolutely love to see LeBron win it all this year. The internet would be ablaze for weeks.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on May 09, 2018, 08:29:53 PM
I thought the Sixers almost had it there up four with like a minute and a half left. Oh well.

Go Warriors.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 09, 2018, 10:44:19 PM
Sixers were just too green. Too many stupid turnovers. They gonna be a good team next year too tho. So 2nd round into the playoffs after running #TheProcess for the last however many years, I think they were a success.

But Yes, Warriors in 4, then Warriors in 4 again.
Back2Back
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on May 11, 2018, 10:48:01 AM
Kawhi Leonard was spotted at a Dodgers game after not even bothering to join the Spurs on the bench during the playoffs. Magic Johnson is part-owner of the Dodgers and president of basketball operations for the Lakers.

At least try to be a little less transparent, guys.

Jeanie Buss better start writing another tampering check to the NBA.........
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 13, 2018, 03:38:23 PM
So the Cavs thought they were gonna come into Boston and and sleep walk over this young team...
Lebron and the Cavs ended up getting their teeth kicked in with both Boston Feet, and never recovered.

I'm still not sure if I want my Warriors playing this squad. LOL
they just continue to march on with or without a general. Gonna have to call the the Boston White Walkers.
Hopefully the away team can do much better tomorrow. Walk into Houston and steal 2 games ;)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on May 13, 2018, 06:17:52 PM
I really wish other teams had gotten into the Final 4. At this point, it's all teams that have won NBA Championships before, especially the Cavs & Celtics. Kind of boring at this point, though by the old code I suppose I have to support the Rockets since they're the team that beat my team.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 13, 2018, 06:34:44 PM
You really want to see Harden and CP3 chip?

I tried to get excited for how good the Rockets were this season, and followed them to see how much of a threat they are, but I just can't stand watching Harden play baiting for BS fouls, and CP3 flop for calls. And the worst part about it is that Harden does it so effortlessly and obviously, yet the refs still call it. Every. Fucking. Time.
I want them to get swept at home, and then finished off in Oakland. and not just because I'm a Warrior fan, but because I despise Harden's game. I'd root for whoever was against him.

Watching him sit down on the court and give up while the game was still going against the Spurs last year was great. I want to see it happen again. We got great strip clubs in SF too Harden, I'l show you where to party this year when you come visit. LOL
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on May 13, 2018, 06:39:57 PM
You really want to see Harden and CP3 chip?

Hell no. I hate that stupid beard (and his tendency to fake Superstar fouls) & I've disliked Chris Paul since the Deron Williams days. I've never liked the Cavs, and I like the Celtics even less than usual because of  Hayward.

At the same time, though, I just can't get excited over the Warriors. From what little I've seen, there's not all that much difference between them & the Rockets. I'm sure they're a fine team, but they just don't interest me. Plus, California gets enough Championships, thanks.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 13, 2018, 06:54:52 PM
Better Cali to get one more than let the Rockets have ANYTHING at all. LOL
Warriors have lucked themselves into one of (if not) the best teams in NBA history. This may never happen again. It's best we all just sit back and enjoy it while we got it. Literal Game Changing team here (and that was before Durant...  Durant just broke the NBA by adding himself) that plays to win on both ends of the court.

We can hope for a Dubs Celts matchup. I'm ok with Lebrons streak being broken.
But I think the Cavs would be the more predictable and therefore easier matchup.
Brad Stevens is doing way too much over there in Boston. LOL

and I feel like if the Celts made the Finals, suddenly Kyrie would be feeling better by game 4. Possibly even Hayward by game 6 (assuming it made it that far). Could be exciting from a fan perspective
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: segagamersteph on May 14, 2018, 03:46:14 PM
The Celtics are still going, that's all that matters for me right now. Just hope they can sweep the Cavs.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on May 14, 2018, 05:09:21 PM
This is the only series I’m actually supporting the Cavs. I’ve been conditioned to dislike the Celtics. I fell off the NBA wagon in the late 90s, just tuning in every once in a while. I was sick of seeing the Lakers on TV and winning all the time. Weirdly, I didn’t get back into it until the Lakers and Celtics met in the Finals in 2008. If you’re even a casual basketball fan, you pay attention to Lakers vs. Celtics. I picked the Lakers because my dumb cousin used to be obnoxiously into Larry Bird’s Celtics (who almost always beat the Sixers back then). The Lakers lost that Finals and I was like, “Well, I guess I’ll follow the Lakers now.” That’s literally the only reason I’m a Lakers fan. I know it’s silly. It’s just as arbitrary as everyone else’s fandom.

Still, I’m supporting the Warriors to win it all this year because every other choice is.......... not great. Golden State is the only team I can’t find something I dislike besides maybe Draymond Green’s antics. How can anyone not like the Warrior’s system? After this year, I just want to see some other team in the West eliminate the Warriors. I don’t like any team winning all the time, even teams I like. That’s boring. I follow certain teams, but I’m more of a basketball fan in general. I want competitive play in most cases.

Not Warriors vs Rockets though. I want a sweep, four straight blowouts. I don’t hate the Rockets, but something about them just rubs me the wrong way.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 14, 2018, 05:34:06 PM
::HIGH FIVE::
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on May 14, 2018, 08:31:05 PM
Yes, all according to plan.
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Post by: segagamersteph on May 14, 2018, 08:51:50 PM
I can see that Adrock. Me, I am not that complicated. I am a Bulls fan through and through. Once they are out, I revert to hating any team from the Midwest that isn't the Bulls. Right now that's the Cavs. I want it to come down to West coast versus East coast, for that to happen it has to be Celtics vs. Golden State. Plus, Stever Kerr played for my beloved Bulls and he needs a few rings as coach to round out the career.

Plus obligatory down with Lebron comment here.

Edit: That game tonight was a blast to watch though.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 14, 2018, 09:39:20 PM
My Warriors came out and did what they had to do.

Dray took a T early on to let Harden know we wasn't playing none of that bullshit tonight.
....honestly, I don't know why he did it. But as long as he didn't get himself ejected... or kick anyone in the nuts, I'll let it slide, for now.

and of all people, CP3 turned to Durant and said "Shut up and play ball"... well, shut it down CP3.
edit: and then CP3 pulled a cheap shot.... (https://twitter.com/World_Wide_Wob/status/996209790396305408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%23996209790396305408)
Take the L, quiet the crowd, and just be happy you made it this far. LOL
It's not over yet, but we feeling good about taking Game 1.

I still got a bone to pick with Kerr and his questionable at time coaching. Why did he pull Durant, who was killing the Rockets, at the end of the 3rd quarter, when we had our foot on their throat, and still steadily apply pressure. We were up 15 with about little less than 2 minutes left in the 3rd.
LET.US.CRUSH.THIER.SPIRITS. it's what we do in the 3rd. Durant could've rested the beginning of the fourth. Kerr ends up bringing him back in for the final minute as the Rockets miraculously bring it back down to 5. Never should have happened. You snuff out that flame when you have a chance. Harden and CP3 can't handle the pressure, we all know this. Don't let them think they still have a chance. Shut it down when the opportunity presents its self.

As Chuck said. "Warriors in 3"
LMAO
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 15, 2018, 09:20:03 PM
HAHAHAHAHA Celtics going to the finals.

Lebron is leaving Cleveland sometime during the halftime break in Cleveland on Saturday.
Destination: TBD (Philly? LA? MIL? HOU? TOR? UTAH? NY? LOL?)

I thought Bron was gonna hoist the entire team on his back and carry them to the W, but Taytum gave Lebron that shoulder to the chops.... and the will to carry them all dissipated quickly.

But damn was this a BORING ASS game. I had to multi-task. Both teams were not entertaining on the offensive end. There were a few good plays here, and a few good plays there, but it was like barren desert inbetween.

oh, and
**** YOU JR ::clap, clap, clap clap clap::
**** YOU JR ::clap, clap, clap clap clap::

"I think they said Forget You JR" LOL @ the live broadcast radio edit

I thought they were gonna issue a Flagrant 2 for that shove to the back, I wonder if they upgrade it post-game. But I don't know if Lebron wants to use his 1 post-season wish just yet to save JR instead of using it to possibly eliminate an opponent teammate instead.
I'm damn sure he's already called in for the Ref Assist® for game 3 & 4. Gotta push this to 6 games minimum.
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Post by: Adrock on May 16, 2018, 06:21:31 AM
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Cavs got the Ref Assist for the rest of the series. The league knows the Cavs with Lebron are more valuable in the Finals than the Celtics without Kylie Irving. Then again, neither team is going to give the Warriors a decent run. At least there’s a somewhat rivalry with revisiting Warriors vs Cavs for the 37th time. The Finals are going to be a LOL-fail this year.

Anyway, Suns got the top pick and the Kings get the second that I’m sure it will somehow botch. Despite the nice payday, I feel really bad for whoever gets picked by the Kings. It’s so important for a player’s development to be in a situation where they can succeed. Michael Jordan was able to lead the Bulls instead of playing behind Clyde Drexler. Even last year, Donovan Mitchell was drafted 13th then traded to like the one team and system that made him the first option. Put Mitchell in just about any other situation, and who knows if he breaks out the same way?
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Post by: broodwars on May 16, 2018, 06:29:31 AM
Yeah...as much as I loved Jerry Sloan, the guy was notorious for taking talented rookies & sticking them on the bench for a year or sending them to the D-League so they could "learn how to play in the NBA." I sometimes wonder how much further them team could have gotten if Deron Williams was allowed to play more in his 1st season, etc.
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Post by: Soren on May 16, 2018, 05:51:03 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Cavs got the Ref Assist for the rest of the series. The league knows the Cavs with Lebron are more valuable in the Finals than the Celtics without Kylie Irving. Then again, neither team is going to give the Warriors a decent run. At least there’s a somewhat rivalry with revisiting Warriors vs Cavs for the 37th time. The Finals are going to be a LOL-fail this year.


I totally disagree. The Celtics present at least half decent matchup against the Warriors. The NBA is crazy if they think Lebron and 14 rotting corpses makes for a more entertaining series than a Celtics/Warriors series.
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Post by: Adrock on May 16, 2018, 05:59:05 PM
I said “more valuable” not “more entertaining.” LeBron will make the NBA more money and higher ratings than a Celtics team with Irving on the bench.

The Celtics will put up a better fight than LeBron and the junior varsity team he’s running with, but they’re still getting wrecked by the Warriors.
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Post by: Shaymin on May 16, 2018, 07:41:40 PM
The top 2 picks in the draft going to the place that doesn't need them (the West) should prove that the NBA got out of the rigging game when Stern retired.
Lebron is leaving Cleveland sometime during the halftime break in Cleveland on Saturday.
Destination: TBD (Philly? LA? MIL? HOU? TOR? UTAH? NY? LOL?)
Lebron: "After realizing that I have more money than most nations and every state but California, I've decided to take my talents to League of Legends."
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on May 16, 2018, 08:12:24 PM
Warriors in 5?

Did they not feel like playing basketball tonight?
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 16, 2018, 09:48:39 PM
apparently. They didn't bring the energy tonight. Klay was off. Curry was scurred. Durant wasn't interested in doing it all alone, and Dray just gave the **** up. LOL

We'll check them for 2 in Oakland. and then see if we can settle this in Houston.

Warriors have tied the NBA playoff record of 15 straight home game wins in a row. So I'm hoping we get a performance for game 3 to set that record of 16 straight home wins, followed up by some separation of 1 more in game 4.

Tonight was disappointing, but we did what we needed to do by winning at least 1 in Houston.
Any more than that was just icing on the cake, and boy did I want some icing. LOL.

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Post by: Soren on May 16, 2018, 09:57:49 PM
Curry doesn't look all there. It's obvious he's not 100% but some of those shots looked painful. Klay not hitting anything as well was a bummer.


That being said, PJ Tucker is not going 8/9 from the field and 5/6 from 3 again in this series. Neither is Eric Gordon going 6/9 from 3.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 16, 2018, 10:15:17 PM
They come to Oakland, and will hopefully be ran right back out the building. We will finish this in Houston.

Hopefully 3 days of rest allows Curry to get his **** together. We need Sky Fucker to return and the the Splash Bros. needs a sighting. It's been a while since they made it rain.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 21, 2018, 07:26:19 AM
It was WET as **** in Oracle tonight.

41pt BLOW-OUT for the rockets.
I'm not sure if that's the worst playoff loss in history, but I'm sure it's the biggest Warrior playoff beatdown delievered yet, probably even the largest Rocket playoff loss ever as well.

Dubs also set another NBA record with most consecutive Home Playoff Wins tonight.


Here's to 2 more great performances form Chef Curry against the Rockets, and then 4 more for the victory lap against whomever comes out of the East.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 22, 2018, 08:48:32 AM
Well.... Cav v Celts was another hard to watch game.
Between pace, execution and general play style, this just is not an exciting series for me.

Boston couldn't make ****, the Cavs are not good, the Celts just play even worse
It's all bad when you get your shot blocked twice by Kyle Korver, it's worse when you miss 2-5 dunks.... most of which were not contested at the rim. It is completely UNACCEPTABLE when you get the ball and then have to be TOLD what to do with it... wide open, 5 feet from the hoop with no one between you and the bucket..... SMMFH

(https://media.giphy.com/media/1PgB9XHlgcEI1Y0eZj/giphy.gif)

Refs made a few bad calls both ways, more so killing any momentum the Celtics would start to get, but Celtics were just bad in this game. This was not on the Refs at all.

If the Celtics don't continue to win this at home, series over. Their road game has been terrible.
Almost like 2 different teams.

Oh well, hopefully we get back to Basketball perfection tonight with a fast paced, well executed on both ends of the court, extra HYPED Warriors v Rockets game.

Hopefully Steph shows up again, along with Klay and Durant.
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Post by: Adrock on May 22, 2018, 09:54:41 AM
Dude, it’s curtains for the East and pretty much has been all season. Both the Cavaliers and Celtics struggle on the road. Bring that weak **** into Oracle arena and you’ll get laughed out of the building.

The Conference Finals this year have been awful. They’re mostly blowouts. If the Rockets lose tonight, the series is unofficially over. It’s like watching someone light a fire in a garbage can then throw it into a larger flaming garbage can. I should be leaving Deadpool 2 around the second quarter. I’ll check the score, but I don’t think I’m even going to watch the game.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 22, 2018, 10:06:15 PM
Well.... that happened.

Somehow the Dubs started the game 12-0 (shoulda been 20-0) and then fell behind 10 just before the half, only to have a 20pt swing to be back up by 10 in the 3rd, only to lose by 3 in the end...

It was finally a game people wanted to watch, no blowout regarless of how bad it started for the away team. Durant was off. Klay got hurt... a little. Draymond was not good. Livingston was bad, Looney had moments, and Curry didn't make miracles happen in moments we needed them in the 4th. Oh, and Kerr.... for some reason didn't call a time out to run a play for the final 48 seconds of the game down by 3. Quick 2 for 1 to get either down by 1 or tie the game up. We were all shocked that he let the clock play.

It's all good. I still believe the Dubs will just bring it in Houston. Vegas got what it wanted. People made their money, so now it's time to end this ****. Warriors in 6 @ Home.
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Post by: Soren on May 23, 2018, 09:46:36 PM
Can we talk about how utterly stupid the conference finals schedule is? Teams got 3 days off between games 2 and 3 but now are expected to play up to 5 games every other night, including travel. Today's CLE/BOS game was really ugly.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 23, 2018, 10:48:34 PM
no one can figure out what the plan was... something about ensuring there was a game on Sunday and Monday or something. Buy who really knows.
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Post by: nickmitch on May 24, 2018, 08:09:48 AM
You'd think they've been doing this long enough to know better, but I guess not.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 24, 2018, 09:19:11 AM
You'd think they've been doing this long enough to know better, but I guess not.

From what I heard, the reasoning for the schedule had a lot to do with Advertising Money from the broadcaster (ESPN?) that paid (a lot of $$) to air the games. So they had to make sure that Sunday and Monday were covered for potential close-out games, as those are 2 of the highest rating days for the week.

Sounds logical to me, but still makes the schedule looked fucked up, especially considering how both series have turned out so far. but hindsight is 20/20
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Post by: nickmitch on May 24, 2018, 12:48:30 PM
I'm surprised those are the highest days for ratings, but I guess I just don't know what distinguishes those two days.  I know the NFL owns them for a chunk of the year, so maybe people are used to their sports fix on those days.  Could be regularly scheduled TV to compete with as well?  I dunno.
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Post by: Shaymin on May 24, 2018, 05:00:24 PM
Not at this time of year - most shows go into summer reruns around now.
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Post by: nickmitch on May 24, 2018, 06:02:26 PM
That other poster would've known that.  Too bad I killed him.
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Post by: Adrock on May 24, 2018, 08:14:07 PM
Not looking great for the Warriors.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 24, 2018, 09:05:49 PM
I think Durant had money on the Rockets tonight. and offered to cut Draymond in sometime during the 1st quarter if he helped him out.

Durant with the TERRIBLE ISO for the entire 1st and 2nd quarter WOULD NOT PASS THE BALL... just terrible forced shot after terrible forced shot. He literally started the game in OKC Panic Mode Hero Ball ISO and it was not working.

KD missed as many shots tonight as Curry took total (14). There is something wrong with that picture. He was rushing shots, passing up WIDE OPEN teammates to throw up a quick brick. If he didn't have money on the game, then someone kidnapped his niece or something. Killed our offense for the 1st 2 Qtrs of the game. The entire reason we weren't up by double digits by halftime was because of KD (other players were't quite up to Par, but KD dominating the wasted possession game killed out offensive flow, no one was allowed to get it going watching KD turn the ball over or take a terrible shot).
I been yelling at the TV almost all damn game.
and Klay and his 4 airballs in the last 2 games... smfh. 1 of them was a layup bruh.

Draymond is making Shaqtin, Bleacher Report will probably roast him better, harder, and first with the post game edits on IG tho.

Dubs SEVERELY disappointing right now. 2 sub 100 games in a row.
But atleast we getting the exciting close down to the wire games everyone wanted.
ECF has been soooooo damn boring.
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Post by: Adrock on May 25, 2018, 12:19:13 PM
Chris Paul is out for Game 6. I’d be shocked if he was available for Game 7.

The Warriors should win this series.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 25, 2018, 12:29:50 PM
We'll take it. (Not a guaranteed win yet.... Kerr was about to unleash Zaza tho :P)

We should have won the last last 2 games, but damn, between Houston turning up the D, and dumb ass turnovers by the Dubs (Not to mention the KD iso failures) it's like we're trying to make this hard on ourselves.

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Post by: Adrock on May 25, 2018, 08:53:46 PM
Kyle Korver won a jump ball. What is this sorcery?

I have doubts the Cavs can win Game 7 in Boston. There’s only so much LeBron can do. Someone else will have to step up on the road. Anyone? Bueller?
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Post by: Adrock on May 26, 2018, 12:02:12 PM
Kevin Love ruled out for Game 7 due to concussion protocol.

I really can’t stand the idea of a Rockets vs. Celtics Finals. I’m really hoping the Warriors can pull off two straight wins.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 26, 2018, 02:36:17 PM
Kevin Love ruled out for Game 7 due to concussion protocol.

I really can’t stand the idea of a Rockets vs. Celtics Finals. I’m really hoping the Warriors can pull off two straight wins.

Hamptons 5 says "We Got This"
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Post by: Adrock on May 26, 2018, 08:21:09 PM
‘Twas getting a bit dicey there in the first half and at halftime. The Warriors have been showing up in the third quarter. They need to stop falling behind early. It won’t always be easy to turn it on and make a run.
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Post by: Soren on May 26, 2018, 09:29:01 PM
Warriors came out looking really bad at the start. They can't afford to do that in Houston. The second half was extremely therapeutic to see Curry and Klay let loose. And seeing McCaw, even in garbage time, was very uplifting. He's probably not going to play meaningful minutes the rest of the playoffs but it was great to see him. And it's been good seeing Jordan Bell step up and contribute even a little when it matters.

Houston will not win this series without Chris Paul. Their 7 man rotation got pushed to 6 + the corpse of Mbah a Moute and it showed in the second half when they needed more than normal from Gordon/Green/Ariza and they gave them nothing.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 26, 2018, 11:17:09 PM
Almost guarantee CP3 ain't playing game 7, no matter how much he wants to. A hamstring strain isn't exactly a 4 day injury. More like a 7-10 day one at minimum. Even if he forces himself to play game 7, he won't be himself, 65% at best.

Dubs should have won the last 2 games they lost, but for reasons.... decided to play like absolutely garbage, and in the last game, even decided to play nothing like recent Warrior ball. Not sure what they were doing.

Game 7 is gonna be HYPE AF tho, but I think we know who's gonna win.

the real question is who gonna win tomorrow between Celtics and Cavs.
Personally I think Celtics, but Lebron gonna carry those fools to the first close game of the series. It could go either way.

Regardless, assuming Dubs win on Monday, They take the finals in 5 games (or less).
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 27, 2018, 04:21:04 AM
re: last nights game, I think this says it all.

(https://i.imgur.com/6qhjZ1b.png)
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Post by: Adrock on May 27, 2018, 08:00:40 PM
Wow, Celtics. That was embarrassing.
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Post by: ShyGuy on May 27, 2018, 08:34:56 PM
LEBRON!!!!

(https://i.imgur.com/nONdjT6.jpg)
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 27, 2018, 11:05:56 PM
#TRUTH

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeQM0GiV0AER3EZ.jpg)

tomorrows game gonna be LIT AF

we could have a 4 peat Finals Appearance. And I think it will be the 1st time in NBA history (Cavs) that a team meets all the same exact teams in the post season, regardless of order, 2 seasons in a row.

HAHAHA LMAO.
https://twitter.com/White_Mamba88/status/1000957690934259714

Lebron last night. LOL
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Post by: Adrock on May 28, 2018, 07:07:43 PM
The Warriors are not playing like this is an elimination game though it reminds me of that episode of the Simpsons when Homer was a boxer, and he just waits until the opponent gets tired then beats them easily. Right now, they’re down by 11 at halftime and have made a habit of strong third quarter runs. It’s frustrating to watch because you never know if they just don’t have it in them to turn it on.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 28, 2018, 07:39:31 PM
We just need a lead....

Scott Foster is on the case though. LOL
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Post by: Adrock on May 28, 2018, 07:42:44 PM
And they’re up by three now.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 28, 2018, 07:50:17 PM
7 now.
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Post by: nickmitch on May 28, 2018, 08:00:04 PM
Pretty much safe to go to bed now.
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Post by: broodwars on May 28, 2018, 08:37:26 PM
Oh joy...Cavs & Warriors. Again. And here I didn't think these playoffs could get any more boring or predictable.
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Post by: ShyGuy on May 28, 2018, 08:46:46 PM
Curry and Lebron should have a exhibition boxing match at center court to make things interesting.
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Post by: Adrock on May 28, 2018, 09:38:26 PM
Oh joy...Cavs & Warriors. Again. And here I didn't think these playoffs could get any more boring or predictable.
I’m not thrilled because this series is going to be a waste of time. It is interesting how we got here. The Warriors tripped into the best case scenario by having the NBA intervene in the Finals and pluck a series away from them on the same year the salary cap exploded and Kevin Durant was a free agent and tired of Russell Westbrook.

And the East... what is there to even say about that conference? No one could build a team capable of beating LeBron James and the cardboard cutouts the NBA somehow allowed on the floor. It sucks seeing Warriors vs Cavs for the infinityth time. Then again, 28 other teams have failed to put together a better product so here we are.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 28, 2018, 11:04:43 PM
The Pacers and the Celtics both had an excellent chance at taking the East away from Lebron.
Had Kyrie been available, we would have gotten the East match-up we were hoping for ALL DAMN SEASON LONG, but nope....

Dubs in 4.
5 for the gentlemans sweep, should Silver request it.
But just like the match up for the finals, we all know the outcome already. I hope we don't see no extra BS on behalf of the league to just let this be what it is and what we all expect it to be.
There is a reason Lebron has been extremely humble on his comments towards making it this far. Even he knows what's coming next. his team is absolute trash, and no one can really dispute that. It's by the grace of the basketball gods that he made it to the finals again this year.

Also, this moment from tonights game is HILARIOUS. Draymond is a damn fool LOL
https://twitter.com/JKKkdk1/status/1001293012998262789
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Post by: Adrock on May 29, 2018, 05:35:24 AM
Excellent chances but still didn’t get it done.

I can’t get behind the whole if-Team-A-had-Player B-Team-A-would-have-won explanation. Eric Gordon brought that trash last night. “If we had Chris, if he was out there, we'd have been playing on Thursday. It's just tough.” Well, he wasn’t out there and your team was up by double digits at halftime without him then you all marched out of the locker room in the second half and laid an egg.

There’s no reason the Cavs should be in the Finals this year yet here we are. This is curtains for The Cavs. No way LeBron stays. Ideally, he signs with a team in the East, but no team makes sense for him. If The Cavs can work out a sign and trade, I think the Spurs, with or without Kawhi would be a good landing spot.
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Post by: Soren on May 29, 2018, 06:36:52 AM
0 for 27 did them in. I did not watch the game because I knew I was going to rage the moment the Warriors went behind by 10.


These Finals are going to suck but again, watching my favorite team win a championship takes precedent. I honestly think we're near the end of this historic run so I have to enjoy the good times while they last.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 29, 2018, 09:02:53 AM
I can’t get behind the whole if-Team-A-had-Player B-Team-A-would-have-won explanation. Eric Gordon brought that trash last night. “If we had Chris, if he was out there, we'd have been playing on Thursday. It's just tough.” Well, he wasn’t out there and your team was up by double digits at halftime without him then you all marched out of the locker room in the second half and laid an egg.

What this argument ignores is that if Iggy wasn't hurt in game 4, would there have been a game 6? certainly not a game 7. CP3 injury probably never would've happened because the series would have already been over. LOL


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There’s no reason the Cavs should be in the Finals this year yet here we are. This is curtains for The Cavs. No way LeBron stays. Ideally, he signs with a team in the East, but no team makes sense for him. If The Cavs can work out a sign and trade, I think the Spurs, with or without Kawhi would be a good landing spot.

Bron goin to Philly. that's where I slid my chips already. It's the best landing spot in the East assuming CLE doesn't work miracles in the off season and somehow get PG13 or Kawhii (neither are likely or even possible, but just for arguments sake)

I doubt he stays in CLE regardless of how these finals play out. And I don't see him going West. He's got it too good in the East, and he would only have to face the Celtics in the East to get to the finals next year.
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Post by: Adrock on May 29, 2018, 10:18:58 AM
If LeBron James stays in the East, Philadelphia is his best option. Still, there are reasons it doesn’t make sense for the Sixers. Take the ball out away from Ben Simmons and potentially stunt his growth? Maybe LeBron James is worth risking Ben Simmons’ future. If you can get a talent like James, you take it, 100 times out of 100. Still, as a Sixers fan, I’m a little weary of the long-term repercussions. Right now, they’re like 2010 Thunder. Once today’s top teams like the Warriors fade, the Sixers are poised to be the next great team.
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Post by: nickmitch on May 29, 2018, 10:32:24 AM
I don't like the Sixers as a landing spot for the reasons Adrock said.  I think he's more likely to hang it up this year than go to Philly.  There's really no great landing spot for him unless he can conspire with CP3 and Paul George, but that's incredibly unlikely.  He could stay with the Cavs, but the moves they'd have to make are insane.
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Post by: broodwars on May 29, 2018, 11:28:15 AM
Maybe he could go to Toronto.  :P

And speaking of "what its", had the Jazz had Rubio & Donovan Mitchell (Game 5), we possibly could have won that series. We had a winning record against the Warriors this year, even with Curry in a few games. Hey, you never know.

Also, had the Rockets had Chris Paul, they'd have won Game 6 against the Warriors.

Instead, we have the Warriors vs. Lebron for the 4th straight time.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 29, 2018, 07:24:05 PM
After hearing all the ridiculous commentary on the radio today about Lebron and his greatest achievement. I thought it was funny to come home and see this as the place I paused a youtube video from this morning before I left for work. LOL

(https://i.imgur.com/eHrI1Wn.jpg)

The look SAS's face is basically the look you have to give for the ridiculous question being asked at the bottom.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: ShyGuy on May 29, 2018, 07:29:13 PM
Prediction: King James stays in the LAND after winning the championship
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 29, 2018, 07:31:42 PM
Prediction: King James stays in the LAND after winning the championship

Winning the ECF Championship is enough to make him stay?
He can do that from almost any competitive team in the East tho :P
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on May 29, 2018, 08:42:53 PM
Leading this Cavs team to the Finals may not be Lebron’s greatest accomplishment, but it’s among the highest in difficulty. I feel like a lot of people are downplaying just how bad this team is. LeBron didn’t have Kevin Love for most of Game 6 and all of Game 7.

After that delicious public diss of Dan Gilbert, I don’t see how LeBron returns to this team. Beyond Gilbert, they have no cap space and no reasonable way to improve the team. They have the Nets pick which isn’t getting them past a fully loaded Celtics next year. LeBron has what, two, maybe three more years of elite play left. I don’t think he wants to be the first option anymore. It’s exhausting to carry a subpar team especially at 33. LeBron wants the ball in his hands, but he wants to be more like Magic Johnson in that he’s finding guys good looks. No way he wastes away in Cleveland.

And to clarify, I’m not one of those Lakers fans who hates LeBron James. Again, if you can get that kind of talent, you take it and figure out the rest later. Still, he doesn’t make sense on the Lakers (even with Paul George) for the same reasons he doesn’t make sense on the Sixers. Best case scenario is a sign and trade to a team on the same timeline he’s on.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 29, 2018, 09:25:27 PM
Lebron to the Sixers.

Looks like the Sixers are about to fire their GM Colangelo for some shady twitter deeds.
Room for a Lebron and possibly his favorite GM in Philly!? could be tempting. You know Bron likes to take care of his guys.

And not to discredit Lebron's efforts of literally dragging this team, kicking and screaming, to an NBA finals, but seriously.... the East is pretty damn weak. That team woudln't have made it out the 1st round in the West. Probably not even out the 1st in a 1-16 Bracket. Lebron literally WILLED this team to the finals. Too bad that won't win him a ring... not this year at least
Now if Lebron manages to make this a series.... well, then you pair that with getting this team here, and then you might have a point to argue for greatest achievement
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 29, 2018, 09:38:56 PM
NFL safety Damarious Randall, who is a Warriors fan and was recently traded to the Cleveland Browns, has been talking a bit of trash with his new fan base, and it escalated to the point that he offered to buy a jersey for everyone who retweeted one of his posts (currently upwards of 500,000 people) should the Cavs pull the upset and win this series. Now, he may be in the NFL, but he's still on his rookie deal, and the $1.5 million he's slated to make this season wouldn't come anywhere close to covering that, so this is giving me, a Browns fan who doesn't really follow the NBA, a reason to pay attention to this series.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: ShyGuy on May 29, 2018, 09:41:58 PM
Start a GoFundme and buy Chinese knockoffs.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 30, 2018, 09:50:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYI37xPm8Mg

Perfect
half the universe obviously being the Eastern Conference
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Shaymin on May 30, 2018, 08:21:07 PM
I was going to say Game 7 was like E3 2013 where every missed Houston 3 was Microsoft saying "TV" at the reveal, but I suppose that works.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: ShyGuy on May 31, 2018, 07:15:39 PM
All tied up!
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Soren on May 31, 2018, 08:34:01 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dek2LFGWAAAapAs.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on May 31, 2018, 08:51:52 PM
What even was that at the end of regulation? George Hill misses a go ahead free throw because he’s weak, his bloodline is weak, and he will not survive the winter. Then, J.R. Smith gets the offensive rebound three feet away from the basket, doesn’t pass to a wide open LeBron James, and dribbles out to the three point line because reasons. Did he like not know the score or time left in the game?

That was hella sloppy, Warriors. They’re pretty lucky LeBron James is playing with Kevin Love and a bunch of holograms.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: ShyGuy on May 31, 2018, 08:57:02 PM
Somebody is going to get their teeth knocked out by the end of this.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Soren on May 31, 2018, 08:57:48 PM
Durant played terribly and got bailed out by that replay. This team has pissed me off so much this year. I don't even feel good after this win. 
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 31, 2018, 10:03:13 PM
This game NEVER should have been this close. the Cavs could barely break 95 against the Celtics... we know we are better defensively, but we didn't put the clamps on them like we should have.

Lucky for the Cavs, Lebron went for 50+ tonight to just barely lose.
OT was the Warriors lucky break here. Hopefully they come out to win in game 2-4 and not play games thinking they "got this".


edit: I just rewatched the end of the regulation again. Lebron was SOOO PISSED at JR. LOL
I feel like that was probably the 1 chance they had to steal one in Oakland. I don't think Dubs gonna let Lebron go for 51 again. No none else on the Cavs are close to good enough to fill in that gap though.


edit2:
also just rewatched the end of OT.... smh
TT got that flagrant 2.... EJECTED and then hit Dray in the face with both the ball and his hand... smdh possibly suspended for game 2.
but it gets worse. K.Love walked onto the floor... leaving the bench during the skirmish. He could be suspended for Game 2 as well. smmfh Cavs are royally fucked for game 2 in Oakland.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2018/06/01/nba-finals-could-tristan-thompson-suspended-game-1-skirmish/662604002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2018/06/01/nba-finals-could-tristan-thompson-suspended-game-1-skirmish/662604002/)

But on a positive note, both JR and Javale are making #Shaqtinafool
- Javale with the uncontested, all alone under the hoop Rimjection of his dunk. LMAO. dumbass
(https://i.imgur.com/OkcdT6D.png)
- JR Smith with the rebound next to the rim with 3 seconds left in a tie game, dribbles out and realized they haven't won so tries to make a last second pass to the baseline corner 3 since he already missed an open LBJ at the top of the key for a game winning shot.

With a bonus Appearance for TT
- Getting a flagrant 2 ejection and possible next game suspension in the last 2.7 seconds of OT for a game you've already lost, and possibly getting K.Love suspended for next game as well because he had your back but you had to act a fool cause you mad you lost

and this is only Game 1 of the NBA Finals.
everyone thought this would be boring. The Rivalry is Real.
Even Lebron shoved Curry near the end, he and Curry were exchanging words, Klay got involved. TT was following them around like Lebrons pitbull... he was obviously looking to get into some ****, which is what led to the incident above. Gm2 gonna bit LIT AF too. just watch
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on June 01, 2018, 05:04:16 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/gf7sRz6.png)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 01, 2018, 05:21:43 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/gf7sRz6.png)

This link pairs perfectly with your pic. LMAO
https://deadspin.com/this-is-how-it-feels-when-youre-the-only-good-player-on-1826473906 (https://deadspin.com/this-is-how-it-feels-when-youre-the-only-good-player-on-1826473906)

edit:
(http://i64.tinypic.com/2cq1nxk.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/DapMQY4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/kn050qJ.png)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on June 01, 2018, 08:55:30 AM
WOW, that game.  I knew the Cavs wouldn't be able to cut it in OT.  Can't believe JR blew it.

As for the end of OT, the best you can say for TT is that it technically may not have been a punch?  But that's stretching it.  And then Kevin Love was close enough to the bench to be pulled back by an assistant coach, so maybe he can skirt by?  Otherwise, it's looking like a 40 point blowout in game 2.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on June 01, 2018, 09:20:05 AM
It would be a complete double standard but also entirely expected if Tristan Thompson and/or Kevin Love don’t get suspended given that bullshit the NBA pulled with Draymond Green in the 2016 Finals. Game 2 is a waste of time if the Cavs lose their second best player.

The ramifications of Smith’s foible would then have even greater ramifications. It wouldn’t have changed the outcome of the series because the Warriors are a much better team. This could be a straight up sweep instead of the Cavs taking home court advantage and not potentially losing two players.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 01, 2018, 09:26:57 AM
I rewatched the K.Love thing.

He wandered on the court during the mess that was TT getting the Flagrant 2 Ejection, and an assistant quickly pulled him back to the bench as soon as TT started going at Dray.
I don't think they'll suspend that for him since he didn't come off the bench during the skirmish, but was already wandering on the court before it started.

Is it technically a rule violation....?
I don't know the exact wording, but if it's something like "not being in the game but being on the court when an altercation takes place" then... I guess the league gotta do what the league gotta do.

Cavs will be screwed in Gm2. Nance will get his chance to start though. Not sure who covers for Love. He's a rebounding machine and an outside threat. Also the only other Cav in double digits... w/ 21pts. Korver is too big of a defensive liability if his shot isn't immediately passing through the hoop

edit: There is no way TT doesn't get suspended for the next game.
He assaulted another player on the court with the ball and his "fist" to that players face AFTER being ejected for an aggressive Flagrant 2 on a shooter avoiding a 24 second violation at the end of the game.

If Dray could get suspended for a call that wasn't made after the game was over 2 years ago, then TT should absolutely be sidelined and shipped back to Clevelend early for what he did.
K. Love should be fine though.... I think.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on June 01, 2018, 10:29:37 AM
I still see Draymond's finals suspension as a make up for his non-suspension during the OKC series, but I see your point in the TT situation.

I feel really bad for LeBron.  Don't think he stays after the season.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on June 01, 2018, 01:42:08 PM
I still see Draymond's finals suspension as a make up for his non-suspension during the OKC series, but I see your point in the TT situation.
The NBA shouldn’t get to make up for it though. Either suspend him when it’s appropriate or don’t. The action that got Draymond Green suspended didn’t make any sense, and LeBron James didn’t get any penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct when he stepped over Green. I get the idea that the NBA was trying to milk that series, but it puts a stain on the league. Letter of the law states you cannot leave the bench. Love was on the court when he shouldn’t have been and he kept walking towards the scuffle before an assistant coach pulled him back. The rule is silly, and it previously wrecked an entire series, but unless the NBA gets rid of it, I think it should be followed.

Anyway, Kevin Love is apparently not suspended according to an ESPN source. No word on Tristan Thompson yet.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on June 01, 2018, 02:02:28 PM
Quote
During an altercation, all players not participating in the game must remain in the immediate vicinity of their bench. Violators will be suspended, without pay, for a minimum of one game and fined up to $50,000.

He has to leave the "immediate vicinity" of the bench, which is loose enough to merit the no suspension.  Also, I saw someone pointed out that he was standing on the court when the shot went up, well before the altercation.

I'm glad they didn't suspend him.  Hopefully that makes Game 2 better than it would've been.  I like the "spirit" of the law being followed in this case since the point is to prevent full on brawls, and there's no way Kevin Love was about to throw hands.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 01, 2018, 02:16:34 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/6HzBloc.jpg)

JR ain't ever living this moment down. LOL
"I knew we were tied"
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on June 01, 2018, 02:22:51 PM
The basketball fan in me is glad Kevin Love wasn’t suspended because it means we get a better Game 2. The side of me who thinks that rule should be abolished because it sucks wants it followed to the letter until the NBA realizes how much it sucks and gets rid of it. Back in 2007, Amare Stoudemire and Boris Diaw got suspended even though they didn’t escalate the situation, but they left the vicinity of the bench. Same with Kevin Love. He’s past the three point line. I don’t like the idea of following the spirit of the law because then the NBA gets to cherry pick.

I think it’s good to have a rule though it should be more about escalation than simply leaving the bench area. If a player on the bench walks a little on the court to pull one of his own guys away, sure.
(https://i.imgur.com/6HzBloc.jpg)

JR ain't ever living this moment down. LOL
"I knew we were tied"
That makes this situation so much worse. Smith even got a rebound with 7’0” Kevin Durant in front of him.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BeautifulShy on June 02, 2018, 02:09:49 AM
I am expecting maybe a 4- 6 game series. Either going to be a sweep by Golden State or something a bit more interesting.   I am rooting for the Cavs though partly because of Clarkson and Nance because they were Lakers and I feel for LeBron as this might be his last series as a Cav.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 02, 2018, 08:55:37 AM
Iggy is doubtful for gm2, so it'll be interesting to see if the Dubs can manage to slow down Lebron while continuing to keep the rest of the Cavs relatively neutralized.

I always figured Dubs in 5, but seeing how the Cavs were playing previous to this, and knowing that there is NO WAY Lebron can play at 100% effort and all 48 minutes for EVERY GAME, I was hoping for a clean sweep.

Nance is ok, but Clarkson is trying to hard to become the man.
He has talent, but he ain't gonna be Lebron's Kyrie, not this season.... and not next season either, becuase Lebron will be in Philly. LOL
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 03, 2018, 10:41:02 PM
Another NBA record for Curry and The Warriors
Most 3 Pointers made in a Final game = 9

and we need some pre-game HYPE intro's like they used to do back in the day. Sell you on the drama, recap the road to the moment, point out the little fueds throughout the season, etc etc

Here is someone's mock up for last years finals. It's still relevant today, but he NBA on NBC theme really takes you back though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guM04bMHuBc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guM04bMHuBc)


Finals MVP Curry is coming for his crown.
Lebron just couldn't hoist his whole team up on his shoulders to carry them to the finishline this time. The man is tired. Outside of Love, and tonight, Hill.... most everyone else was just there to fill in the 5 needed on the court.

I still don't get how TT wasn't suspended for his actions in last game though. He got ejected, and before leaving the court, started another altercation that was deserved of another flagrant 2 for being a purposeful blow to another players head... but they somehow downgrade the initial Flagrant 2 to a F1, and then completely dismiss the ball/hit to Drays face.
I mean I don't really care if TT is on the court or not, but I think it sets a bad precedent to let that slide, because if that was Draymond, we all know he'd be missing at least game 2, if not gm3 as well.

But whatever.... 2-0 headed to Cleveland.
This game went exactly how we expected gm1 to go.
Let's hope the Dubs can win gm 3 in CLE and not let Lebron back in this series.

edit:
(https://i.imgur.com/sTfQ0An.png)

edit2:

If you all want to know why the Cavs didn't really compete in OT of Gm1 and why Lebron looked like he just didn't have 110% to give in game 2....
https://twitter.com/RohanNadkarni/status/1003493390175129600

He left it all on the court in regulation of Gm1. Finding out they had a TO they didn't use literally broke his spirit. A man surrounded by incompetencies. He knew that was their 1, best and probably only chance to win one in against this team (in Oakland... during the first 2 games)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on June 04, 2018, 05:49:38 AM
That mockup intro was great. I still remember the NBA on NBC theme. I’d love for them to bring back the intros on ABC or TNT, but maybe we’re just old and out of touch. I read an article a couple months ago where a lot of younger fans just watch the recap on YouTube. No, it’s the children who are wrong.

Anyway, the three pointer Curry made to beat the shot clock pretty much sums up how this game went for the Cavs. Outside of James and Love, the Cavs were hard to watch. I can’t believe Coby Altman was talked into not only taking Jordan Clarkson but giving up a draft pick too.

Warriors fans chanting “MVP” whenever Smith did anything last night just opened Pandora’s Box. I’ve seen fans cheer when a player on an opposing team messes up, but chanting “MVP” is next level trolling. I feel like we’re going to start hearing that more and it’ll lose its impact.

I think there’s a reasonable chance the Warriors drop Game 3. Not because of any adjustments Tyronn Lue makes. The Warriors just get bored. If they’re going to lose a game, Game 4 would be better. I’d rather see a sweep so this awful series can be put out of its misery.

Also, I was wondering where that Twitter video was going. I thought, why am I still watching this? Then 1:41 happened.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 04, 2018, 08:22:43 AM
The MVP Chant was pretty funny. along with the standing ovation at JR's intro before the game.
Every Warriors fan realizes that we got so damn lucky that 1st game, and we all know who to thank for being an idiot. It won't carry over to Cleveland though.

I also think that while the Cavs will play better at home, and Lebron might renew his efforts back to a Herculean level, I think this is when KD will step up and dismantle their defense from the midrange while Curry and Klay stay alive from 3. Hopefully if they must drop one game for the gentleman's sweep, it's game4, and Lebron will know it's a mercy game meant to bring it home to Oakland.

Also that Twitter vid.... Lebron looked like he was about to cry. He literally had a career performance where he left all he had on the court, after hoisting his entire team on his shoulders.... and is let down by incompetent people all around him... but he has no one to blame but himself, as the coach he put in place didn't request a time out. The player with the ball that he insisted be overpaid didn't know what the score was and ran out the clock instead of putting the ball in the hoop for the win.
I'd  have more sympathy for him if this wasn't a mess of his own design.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: broodwars on June 04, 2018, 09:17:24 AM
That mockup intro was great. I still remember the NBA on NBC theme.

As well you should. That song was "Round ball Rock", composed by John Tesh. Still a fantastic song.

Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on June 04, 2018, 09:50:54 AM
I feel worse for James than you do because most role players on a championship team get overpaid. Also, the Cavs front office J.R. Smith’d twice last summer, they played chicken with the Pacers to get Paul George and lost, Kyrie Irving found out then they traded him rather than weather the storm. If the Cavs had either George or Irving, this series wouldn’t be such a nightmare for James. Maybe Irving still needs surgery, but they didn’t know that. I’d take those chances. Instead, they turned a top 20 player into George Hill, Rodney Hood, Jordan Clarkson, and Larry Nance Jr.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 04, 2018, 10:01:15 AM
Is the failed PG trade the reason Kyrie wanted to jump ship? Were they attempting to trading Kyrie for PG13?

I've heard several reasons of why Kyrie demanded a trade, but nothing ever definitive as the official reason.
Had they still had Kyrie, they would have made quick work of the East. Add PG to that, and we have a series that's going 7... Maybe.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on June 04, 2018, 10:54:53 AM
Nothing official, but I follow the Lakers so I’ve pretty much heard every Paul George trade rumor.

1. According to The Athletic’s Jason Lloyd, there was a three way trade between the Cavs, Suns, and Indiana that would have netted the Cavs Paul George and Eric Bledsoe. That fell apart when Dan Gilbert let David Griffin walk.

2. According to ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski, Indiana wanted Kyrie Irving for Paul George straight up, but the Cavs rejected that “several times.”

3. According to ESPN’s Dave McMenamin, the Cavs front office, coaches, and team support staff met to discuss Irving’s future. Irving heard about the meeting, felt expendable, and requested a trade a couple weeks later.

The Cavs wouldn’t have had Paul George and Kyrie Irving as any trade involved both players never had hem going to the same team. In any case, George and Bledsoe would have been a hell of a lot more entertaining than the dumpster fire LeBron tries to put out every night the Cavs roll onto the floor.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 04, 2018, 11:28:01 AM
The Cavs wouldn’t have had Paul George and Kyrie Irving as any trade involved both players never had hem going to the same team. In any case, George and Bledsoe would have been a hell of a lot more entertaining than the dumpster fire LeBron tries to put out every night the Cavs roll onto the floor.

LMAO

Ok gotcha, I think I heard some of that. Kyrie heard about a failed trade, and then demanded one to a contender or something.
Bron and PG might have been interesting. add in Bledsoe and yeah, this series would be so much better. The Cavs in general would have been so much better.

So PG to the Lakers? or is there any chatter about him sticking it out in OKC one more year?
I heard something about him blaming their failed playoff run on missing Roberson, and possibly riding out OKC for 1 more year....


edit: One thing I do know about the off-season....
With all the Front Office drama with Colangelo in Philly, Lebron must be watching that real close right now.
If he can get his guy in the front office, and then take his talents there.... 76ers become the new "guaranteed" path to the Finals in the East.
I don't know how many are on the Bron to Philly train, but that's where I've stacked my chips since months ago. Perfect opportunity for him to come push his influence over how the organization is run.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on June 04, 2018, 12:09:56 PM
I’ve heard that rumor. I can’t see that happening. Westbrook’s supermax contract makes improving the team so much harder and one Roberson is not moving the needle. Unless George can get more help, he’s ultimately deciding where he’s more comfortable not winning a championship.

Most people think Paul George to the Lakers is a forgone conclusion. If he wants an easier path to a winning team, there are better options because he’d have to convince James to join him this year and/or Kawhi Leonard next year. I heard the Rockets are going to make a run for George if they can’t land James, but either scenario requires a sign and trade, and no one wants Ryan Anderson’s contract. I think he ultimately signs with the Lakers, but among the teams with cap space this offseason, the Sixers make the most sense for him as far as fit.

I try to be a reasonable Lakers fan. One Paul George isn’t turning the team into a contender. George AND James would, but I’m not convinced they’re better than the Warriors. Some Lakers fans are trying to push the narrative that Kevin Durant is in play because he doesn’t like being the fourth favorite Warriors player, and he wants to lead a team. The only way I see Durant leaving is mental fatigue. The Warriors get bored, and they’ve shown signs of it all year. And even then unless he really, really wants to mentor Brandon Ingram, I see no reason why the Lakers would be his first option. Sometimes the worst part about being a Lakers fan is dealing with other Lakers fans.

Sorry, I heard that nonsense Durant rumor again today, and I just needed to get that off my chest.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 04, 2018, 12:31:57 PM
Assuming the Warriors win the title this year (safe assumption, but still an assumption for now) KD ain't leaving. He'll sign another 1 and 1, and take a small discount to extend Klay's contract early.
****.... actually, he's probably staying either way. No stress in the bay, just paid to win while having fun while you play.

I don't know what's up with Kawhi, but SAS is going to offer him the Sooper MaxX, and I'm not sure if he turns it down. That's a lot of money to walk away from... especially since they will probably be able to make some moves this off season if the seniors on the team retire freeing up some cap space.

Philly got room for 2 Max contracts from what I heard.... Lebron + Kawhi? Lebron + PG13?

But since it just got brought up again this morning on TV... what if Danny Ainge trades Kyrie for Lebron? Tell me that wouldn't be some cold blooded ****. LOL




edit:
bonus clip of some JR stupidity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgvBHS1hpE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgvBHS1hpE)
LMAO this dude needs to sober up.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on June 04, 2018, 02:07:20 PM
Yeah, Durant isn’t leaving. That was my point. Lakers exceptionalism is alive and well.

The Sixers have almost one max slot if they let J.J. Redick walk and can get a full max slot by using the stretch provision on Jerryd Bayless. The Lakers are the only team this offseason that can get two max slots with the path of least resistance involving using the stretch provision on the ghost of Luol Deng and renouncing Julius Randle (NO!). Since Magic Johnson has no problems pushing the tampering card, he’ll know where the Lakers stand with key free agents before free agency. Ideally, the Lakers would trade Deng, keep Randle, and sign their free agent targets either George/James or kick the can down the road and make a run at Kawhi Leonard next year. That said, it will be hard but not impossible to dump Luol Deng if absolutely necessary. I’ve heard the Bulls may take him for a couple draft picks. If the Lakers can swing it, they can use Deng to match contracts in a trade rather than a salary dump. If the Thunder, for example, are going to lose Paul George, might as well get a couple picks for him.

I think there’s a reasonable chance Kawhi Leonard leaves San Antonio especially if he really believes the team mismanaged his injury. The main obstacle is apparently his uncle whispering in his ear. The supermax is a ton of money to pass up especially since Texas is an income tax free state, but the idea would be to make up the difference in a bigger market. For example, he apparently balked at the shoe deal he was offered from the Jordan Brand. That’s not changing if he’s still in San Antonio. Maybe in Los Angeles, the same Los Angeles that voted Lonzo Ball over Damien Lillard for the all-Star game. I’m a Lakers fan, and I still think that’s a bad idea. Take the supermax. I’ve never been one for taking chances though.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BeautifulShy on June 04, 2018, 02:44:40 PM
I thought the main reason there was the mid season trade for the Cavs was because the locker room of the Cavs was so toxic and they needed to trade players to make the team function better together.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Soren on June 04, 2018, 03:32:45 PM
I thought the main reason there was the mid season trade for the Cavs was because the locker room of the Cavs was so toxic and they needed to trade players to make the team function better together.


Honestly in hindsight I think that was a massive overreaction by Cleveland. The idea that Isaiah Thomas was so toxic and his body was so irreparably broken seems crazy today. I know stats don't tell the entire story but Thomas giving you 15 a night doesn't seem so bad considering Nance and Clarkson are giving you nothing right now and Hill might be shooting better than IT but is still only good for 10 on a good night.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 04, 2018, 06:49:09 PM
Witnessing Greatness.... Human Cheat Code Activated

(https://i.imgur.com/MSCcKF0.png)

I think this is secretly half the reason why the Dubs shut Corver down so hard.
Can't catch the man on the All Time NBA 3pt List if he keeps making 3's
And Curry has 2-3 more games to top the All-Time Playoff 3pt list to secure his Finals MVP

I believe Curry is #7 on the All-Time list and Korver is at #3, about 90 3's ahead of Curry.
If Curry shoots similar to usual next season, he will jump from #7 to #3 with ease and room to spare
(https://i.imgur.com/OOpl89P.png)
3-5 seasons from now, assuming how he keeps shooting, he will top the list.

If Steph can beat the playoff record, he will have passed Paul Pierce. Would like to see him mumble through that with some scattered commentary Live on the post game. LOL
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on June 04, 2018, 06:55:25 PM
Paul Pierce’s commentary and analysis is so bad. Why does ESPN keep putting him on television?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 04, 2018, 07:31:16 PM
Paul Pierce’s commentary and analysis is so bad. Why does ESPN keep putting him on television?

No idea... but to watch him have to praise a Warrior for beating one of his records. LOL
I see him struggling to find the words.

For as little insightful commentary that the TNT crew gives, they should guest star, or hold their own  PreGame/HalfTime/PostGame show.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 04, 2018, 10:50:14 PM
Nothing official, but I follow the Lakers so I’ve pretty much heard every Paul George trade rumor.

Here are some Laker rumors coming form someone on Reddit
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Era>Reddit (https://old.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/8ojjc7/cyberx_just_dropped_some_news_on_the_lakers/)>source
Some background information on CyberX for those who don't know who he is. He correctly posted about Iso-Joe to the Rockets, JC to CLE, he made this thread on January 25th, 3 weeks before the trade actually happened in Februrary, and CP3 to HOU, among other things. He seems connected to the league. He also posted some behind the scenes about Pelinka and the Lou Will trade.

Source: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/2-0-cyberex-paging-cyberex.272647/page-6 (http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/2-0-cyberex-paging-cyberex.272647/page-6)

-Still believes Lakers at top of the list for LeBron
-Capella is intrigued about the Lakers, LA scene with their young core if they offer the max, wants to make his own name
-Boogie wants out of NOLA, wants Lakers badly
-PG to Lakers is almost a lock
-Capela isnt looking to leave but he also wouldnt mind going on another team and not being under JH shadow. He feels he can offer more. He sees the Lakers as a young and fun team that he can grow with. Same with PHX. I don't see the Lakers going out there to mess with RFA. Its just not in their style.
-Lakers arent sold on DMC. I dont think they really care for him after the injury. Only see him there if its on a short term deal they strike out on.
-If the Lakers know they can get some studs this summer, they will attach a pick or a young player to get rid of Dengs $. I believe the opportunities are endless.

You guys got me going again, going to make some calls this week. I love the off season.

I'll update this thread whenever he makes a new post.

edit:
and IT2 out here clownin!!!!
https://twitter.com/YahooSportsNBA/status/1003863656440852480 (https://twitter.com/YahooSportsNBA/status/1003863656440852480)

original source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Np4K_PAfnI
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on June 05, 2018, 05:56:22 AM
Isaiah Thomas saying, “I’m like the Cavs; I’m about to get swept,” on national television was probably the best thing I’ve seen this week besides maybe that Steph Curry three pointer to beat the shot clock.

I’ve heard most of those rumors except that’s Demarcus Cousins wants to go to the Lakers “badly.” Rob Pelinka crossed him off the list as soon as he got that injury. He saw first hand how Kobe Bryant ended his career after tearing his Achilles. Granted, Cousins is 27 and Bryant was what, 86.

Clint Capela is a restricted free agent. The Rockets will match any offer.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 05, 2018, 07:37:54 PM
Draft hats anyone!? https://twitter.com/JeffEisenband/status/1004021920059281409/photo/1
(https://i.imgur.com/KH4mFK1.png)

And it is one of the better ones. There are some ugly ones out there.... :/
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Soren on June 06, 2018, 07:42:25 AM
It looks cool. Probably super overpriced but whatevs. Jordan Bell was a steal last year and I hope we get lucky again this year.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on June 06, 2018, 08:50:36 AM
There's a TED Talk about flag design that this reminds me of.  But they all look over-developed or "too busy" to me.  And some of the pins are ridiculous.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 06, 2018, 11:13:23 PM
3-0
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfDzrnRUYAAkqFq.jpg:large)

And this is too much. LMAO
https://twitter.com/NBCSWarriors/status/1004435653965373440?s=20
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: ShyGuy on June 07, 2018, 01:43:56 AM
Welp, seems about over now. Looking back, it was over when JR Smith wandered off in game 1.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on June 07, 2018, 05:51:14 AM
Paul Pierce thinks Steph Curry just lost Finals MVP to Kevin Durant. Yeah, but Curry signed a super max contract last summer. I guess he’ll just have to dry his tears on all those disposable $100 bills he now has.

EDIT:
(https://i.imgur.com/83owWve.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Soren on June 07, 2018, 06:02:59 AM
Curry had a really bad game, but sure let's just forget what he did in Game 2.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on June 07, 2018, 06:33:59 AM
Sarcasm aside, Durant is having a better overall series. Even his worst game this series was still pretty good. Also, who really cares what Paul Pierce thinks? I doubt Curry is losing sleep over it. Fans and the media are more about who gets Finals MVP.

And if we’re talking most valuable player in the series, it’s hands down LeBron James even though only Jerry West has ever won it on a losing team. Without him, the Cavs don’t play anything remotely resembling competent basketball.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 07, 2018, 08:06:49 AM
If Curry shows up and plays anywhere near Game 2 level for game 4, on a Warrior win, he gets FMVP
If Durant has to pull a game 3 again because Steph and Klay are both cold... KD wins his 2nd FMVP

The ONLY way Lebron even gets a consideration for FMVP is if they somehow win the next 3 games and he puts up a historic performance in a game 7 loss.

Other than that.. there's no way they give it to the loser ever again. J. West got it the very first year there was a FMVP award, which is the only reason he won it on a losing effort.

and I really wonder who sent that Giant L to the Quicken Loans Arena. If that was another Draymond prank, I will lose it. LMAO
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on June 07, 2018, 08:37:54 AM
Absolutely. No way anyone on a losing team officially wins Finals MVP ever again. I just meant if we’re talking about who provides the most value for each team’s success, it’s clearly LeBron James. Take one of the Warriors’ four best players (Durant, Curry, Thompson, or Green) out of the series, and they still have a reasonable chance to win while the Cavs without LeBron James may lose a G-League game.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 07, 2018, 08:51:51 AM
Truth

Now I just wonder what changes Ty Lue makes to try and win 1 game in Cleveland. Considering the whole team knows win or lose, this is most likely Lebrons last game in Quicken Loans Arena as a Cav for the immediate future. I gotta wonder if the Cavs come out swinging trying their best to not be swept, or do they have a defeated attitude and everyone plays like JR Smith for game 4.

Oh, and does someone deliver a Giant Broom to Quicken Loans arena just before game 4 to mess with the Cavs heads?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Ian Sane on June 07, 2018, 09:16:56 AM
Does any player ever want to win Finals MVP in a losing effort?  So he's going to put that trophy on his shelf so it can remind him of the time his team made it to the finals and blew it?  It's basically a "my teammates let me down" award at that point.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 07, 2018, 09:26:49 AM
Does any player ever want to win Finals MVP in a losing effort?  So he's going to put that trophy on his shelf so it can remind him of the time his team made it to the finals and blew it?  It's basically a "my teammates let me down" award at that point.

Lebrons Legacy at this point is "I got my team to the Finals and we blew it"
It would basically be his validation of "It wasn't me, it was all of them" award.
and the fact that he knows he prevented Curry from getting it, and being the only other person in the entire NBA history to do it.... (maybe get himself made into the New NBA Logo while we're at it) could be a good thing

It's not gonna happen, but I could see how Lebron could find some positives out of it.

I'm really hoping Curry gets it though. He needs a MONSTER game 4 though.
Would be dope if he broke the Finals 3pt Record again.

Rachel Nichols was stating that last time the Finals record was broken 8 3's back in 2010, dude went 0-8 from 3 in the following game.
Curry did the exact same thing, only 0-9 before finally hitting one to end the game 1-10 from 3.
He's due to be calibrated for game 4.
Hopefully Klay joins the Splash Party and game 4 isn't even close after the 3rd is done.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: nickmitch on June 07, 2018, 09:53:53 AM
I don't see the reasoning in wanting Curry to get the MVP.  KD is running away with it in my mind.

And I'm assuming the giant L was a part of some kind of signage and that account was just having some fun.  Because the tweet is hysterical, but someone just sending a giant L is a little mean spirited.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 07, 2018, 03:26:02 PM
KD is deserving of it too, but so was Curry last year, and the first year they won too.
This team wouldn't be what it is then nor today with Curry, so I want to see him have a big game 4 and finally get his FMVP award.

It would also make him 1 of 9 players I think that had multiple regular season MVP and a FMVP award, based on what they were talking on the radio the other day.
There might've been other qualifiers such as AS appearances our All NBA team selections too, but I don't remember at the moment.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Adrock on June 08, 2018, 09:43:06 PM
Finals MVP went to Durant again. Curry had a monster game, but Game 3 hurt him while Durant carried the team to a tough win then dropped a triple double in Game 4.

Hot Take I’ll likely regret: the Warriors don’t make it to the Finals next year.

It’s about that time I get bored watching a team dominate. I don’t even care if they come back and win in 2020. I’ve had my fill of Warriors in the Finals for now.
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Post by: Shaymin on June 08, 2018, 09:44:14 PM
Nick Young: NBA champion.
JaVale McGee has more rings than Moses Malone.
And the thread title stays intact for another year.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
Post by: Soren on June 08, 2018, 10:04:18 PM
It’s about that time I get bored watching a team dominate. I don’t even care if they come back and win in 2020. I’ve had my fill of Warriors in the Finals for now.


In 1994 I had the unfortunate look of picking the Warriors as my favorite team. 9 year-old me had no idea the sadness that he would inherit for the next 20 years. So you know what? Dominate all you want Warriors. I will not get tired of this.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 08, 2018, 10:20:17 PM
Curry would have had that FMVP still if he managed to hit 2-3 more 3's and gotten that 43+ pts and 9-10 3's to either tie or break the new record he just set.

I feel like they kept giving him every chance to do it, but he just kept missing his 3's down the stretch in the last 10-12 minutes of garbage time. LOL I feel bad for Steph, he looked sad he didn't get it, but in the end, he fell just short of earning it. Maybe next year. I got my money on you again Steph.  Don't let me down next time.

On the freshly swept side of the floor....
Lebron just straight gave up, he was not getting much of anything from anyone on his team.
That crushing Game 1 loss totally deflated him, Curry lighting him up in Game 2 poked another hole, KD roasting the whole Cavs team in Game 3 while Steph and Klay both went cold as ice from everywhere on the court, and the Cavs still couldn't be bothered... I just don't think the motivation was there to take it back to Oakland one more time... for what?
He's gone. He knows it. The whole team knows it. The entire NBA organization knows it. Anyone paying attention knew this a long time ago.


It’s about that time I get bored watching a team dominate. I don’t even care if they come back and win in 2020. I’ve had my fill of Warriors in the Finals for now.


In 1994 I had the unfortunate look of picking the Warriors as my favorite team. 9 year-old me had no idea the sadness that he would inherit for the next 20 years. So you know what? Dominate all you want Warriors. I will not get tired of this.


I'm cheering right next to you. WAAAAAARRRIOOOORRRRSS!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: ShyGuy on June 09, 2018, 12:14:20 AM
Warriors vs Celtics with Lebron in 2019, book it!
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Adrock on June 09, 2018, 04:47:54 AM
In 1994 I had the unfortunate look of picking the Warriors as my favorite team. 9 year-old me had no idea the sadness that he would inherit for the next 20 years. So you know what? Dominate all you want Warriors. I will not get tired of this.
That’s fair. I’d at least like competitive basketball. Besides the Rockets series, the Warriors coasted through the playoffs. There are certain instances in which I want blowout victories (e.g. last year’s Finals due to NBA interference in 2016). Otherwise, I find close games more compelling.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 09, 2018, 07:23:44 AM
In 1994 I had the unfortunate look of picking the Warriors as my favorite team. 9 year-old me had no idea the sadness that he would inherit for the next 20 years. So you know what? Dominate all you want Warriors. I will not get tired of this.
That’s fair. I’d at least like competitive basketball. Besides the Rockets series, the Warriors coasted through the playoffs. There are certain instances in which I want blowout victories (e.g. last year’s Finals due to NBA interference in 2016). Otherwise, I find close games more compelling.

Then your issue is with the League for what is happening right now. Had they not interfered in 2016, and the Warriors won 15-16 Back 2 Back, Durant likely never signs with the Warriors.
then again... they were recruiting him anyway... so maybe he does join and they go 4 or more in a row. LOL
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Adrock on June 09, 2018, 08:08:54 AM
I’ve never been coy about how much I hated Draymond Green’s suspension in the 2016 Finals. It made no sense and wrecked that series so the league could get two additional games and the advertising dollars that came with it. That’s a separate issue.

The Warriors built a great team even before Durant got there. I have no issues with the Warriors per se. I actually thoroughly enjoy watching the Warriors. As a basketball fan, how can one not? Their system is so nice, the way they move the ball, set screens. Klay Thompson’s shooting form is probably the most fundamentally sound in the league right now.

I’m a basketball fan first and foremost. While I follow certain teams, I care more about the sport itself than the teams that play it. Any team dominating the league for an extended period of time just doesn’t really interest me. I can enjoy watching highlights, but I’ll tune out of games. If Team X is just steamrolling over other teams, I don’t need to watch that. I love the drama of close games, buzzer beaters/game-winners, late game defensive stops.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Soren on June 09, 2018, 08:17:22 AM
I think the worst thing that could have happened in these Finals was getting Cleveland again. And the best thing that happened is having the Warriors destroy them so badly that the team gave up halfway through the 3rd quarter last night. GS proved that Cleveland does not belong in this strata of NBA basketball, not with the front office they have and certainly not with the players. If LeBron wants any chance at another championship he'll do the right thing and stop dragging this corpse of a team where it doesn't belong.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: broodwars on June 09, 2018, 08:59:10 AM
At least now with the Finals over we can finally get to the season awards, probably the only aspect of the NBA left where there might be at least a little surprise.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 09, 2018, 11:57:54 AM
Popular speculation around the league has Lebron talking to the following teams in the very near future....

Lakers
Philly
Warriors
Celtics

there are a few others I can't remember off the top of my head, but those were the most interesting to me.

- Lakers sees him bring in another player. PG13, Kawhi, CP3, Boogie?
- Philly allows him to bring in a GM. who was his outed GM in Cleveland? I forget, but opportunity is knocking
- Warriors.... LOL that ain't happening
- Celtics reunites him with Kyrie (part of the plan all along!? good team, real competent coach, and only way to get get Kyrie there ahead of time and not gut the team?)

NBA Awards will hopefully be interesting as well.
Rookie of the Year (Simmons or Mitchell)
Choke Artist of the Year (that should be a category) (Harden or Toronto Raptors)
Regular Season MVP (most likely Harden, could be Lebron though)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 09, 2018, 10:22:34 PM
This the type of **** that happens to Curry in so many games yet 99% of the time never gets a whistle
https://streamable.com/nl566 (https://streamable.com/nl566)

This is the **** that keeps him from getting touches and getting in rhythm. I understand why it happens, but the damn refs need to call this **** sometimes. It's not a simple body bump, they are literally grabbing and mauling this cat, and he almost never complains about it. Just keeps on playing.

They had said that after game 3, Curry was getting treated for tons of scratches, some bleeding....


Did anyone see Lebroom at the post game with the cast on? Broke his hand after game 1 punching a whiteboard because he was so pissed off?

Yeah? ok, good, because here is the Top Joke of the Finals.....
Quote
Well, at least now, that the series is over, Lebron has a supporting cast.


and random facts...
(https://i.imgur.com/aXkkq6o.png)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Shaymin on June 10, 2018, 12:20:03 PM
That's why Jordan will always be the GOAT: if he got pissed off about something, he'd break his hand on Toni Kukoc's face.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 10, 2018, 02:09:29 PM
Insider Info
https://twitter.com/hoopin_caleb/status/1005692563888668673

the HYPE vid. LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE3eaAkRGEE


Still got my chips on Philly ;)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Adrock on June 15, 2018, 02:49:48 PM
Sheesh, this Kawhi Leonard thing.

I wasn't going to post Kevin Pelton's article (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23776431/how-lakers-land-lebron-james-paul-george-kawhi-leonard-nba-free-agency) about how the Lakers can land James, George, AND Leonard, but Leonard formally requested a trade to Los Angeles according to both Chris Haynes (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23803570/kawhi-leonard-wants-san-antonio-spurs) and Adrian Wojnarowski (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1007676505562984450) (favors Lakers but didn't rule out Clippers) so it's relevant here. Pelton suggested:

1. Leonard has to request a trade to the Lakers.
2. The Lakers send Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, and Luol Deng (to match salaries) to the Spurs for Leonard.

I chalked it up as an off-season puff piece, just click-bait BS since there's nothing to talk about until the draft. Then, Leonard actually requested a trade so I think it's worth discussing.

This might sound crazy, but I don't think the Lakers should make that trade. They'd give up too much given the circumstances. Everyone remembers Carmelo Anthony's trade to the Knicks in 2011. Had he waited what, four months, the Knicks would have had a great core around Anthony and Amare Stoudemire. Front Office Rule #1: Don't gut your team for a superstar on an expiring contract. A roster featuring James, Leonard, and George looks great on paper, but the team loses Ball, Kuzma, and probably Julius Randle. Brandon Ingram and Josh Hart round out the starting lineup then there's NO ONE. That team isn't better than the Warriors. Sure, they can get some cheap veterans, but I'd still bet on the Warriors 100 times out of 100.

The Spurs are working from an extremely weak position. They can try to demand a ransom, but Leonard has all the power. All his reps have to say is, "He will not re-sign with you." Okay, maybe someone (read: Danny Ainge) takes that chance, but even that idea is fraught with risk. First, who knows when he comes back from injury? Second, he clearly has no problem sitting out almost an entire season AND not traveling with the team. If you're NOT a team on his preferred list, do you give up any decent assets to potentially never see Leonard on the court then watch helplessly when he putzes off next summer?

Kawhi Leonard was the best player on a championship team, arguably the best two-way player currently, and probably still considered the second best overall player in the league. He knows he can sit out an entire season again and teams will still beg him to sign. Who fucks with this guy? That's a dangerous game of chicken, my friend.

Since this story heavily involves the Lakers, let's go back to them. Magic Johnson, who clearly doesn't give a **** about the NBA's tampering rules, probably knows where he stands on free agency. If I'm the Lakers, I try to get this deal done on draft night. Send Ball, Deng, 2018 25th pick (via the Cavs) and their own 2019 and 2021 picks, and maybe a second round pick and/or Ivica Zubac. The trade would have to be agreed upon before the Lakers select this year so the Spurs can choose the player and still get the Lakers 2019 pick due to the Stepien rule. I would build the trade around Ball because he has the highest upside, the most years left on his rookie contract, and if they get Leonard, that's enough to convince James to sign (George is probably a lock) who would take the ball out of Ball's hands anyway. I don't give up Ingram, Kuzma, or Josh Hart because they're good rotation pieces at this point in their careers. Maybe they can work something out to keep Randle. George and James would have to take less than the max so probably not.

That's the best case scenario, and I don't actually think that's going to happen. It depends on who blinks first though. I don't believe Johnson and Rob Pelinka gut the team for Leonard since they know the Lakers are his preferred destination. They're more likely to sign who they can now and kick the can down the road until next summer. You don't build a successful team by surrendering a bunch of talent. It just sucks immensely when a star player holds you hostage. Sorry, Pop.

EDIT: There are conflicting reports on whether Kawhi Leonard personally requested a trade or if his camp leaked it to the press.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Adrock on June 16, 2018, 08:14:57 AM
No one wants to talk about Kawhi Leonard?

I believe the Spurs refuse to trade him to the Lakers out of spite. Leonard helped them win a championship, but there’s no real loyalty in sports except when the Lakers gave Kobe Bryant that hilarious last contract. The Lakers don’t panic and sell the farm because they’re still paying for the Deng and Mozgov deals. I just think this situation is so fascinating due to all the moving parts.

1. Kawhi Leonard and his camp can practically dictate where he goes by refusing to re-sign AND refusing to return from injury.
2. The Spurs don’t have to make any moves right now. **** it. Let him sit out another season and walk next summer. They’re so good at drafting and developing talent that they can be patient. Maybe try to get something at the trade deadline if there’s a deal that nets them something without taking back anything that will hamper future flexibility.
3. Boston may roll the dice because they have assets to spare. I still think Danny Ainge is biding his time until he can make a run for Anthony Davis. Renting Leonard if he doesn’t want to be there is only a possibility if they don’t give up the assets necessary to snag Davis.
4. The Sixers don’t want to part with Markelle Fultz, Dario Saric, AND a pick without any assurance Leonard re-signs. They won’t get that reassurance. But they might do it anyway if they can also sign LeBron James.

My favorite trade floated around is Leonard to the Kings for the 2018 second pick (who probably ends up being Luka Dončić) and other pieces to make the salaries match. Then, Kawahi bolts next summer when the Kings don’t have their own pick. The drama of that whole situation. Would the NBA watch the Kings continue to **** up without intervening? I mean, the league stopped The Process right when Sam Hinke’s plan was starting to come together. I just feel bad for the Kings, but I enjoy watching this ownership group fail. I hope they sell the team.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 16, 2018, 08:41:15 AM
That Lakers situation of Kawhi, PG13 and Lebron is scary for the Warriors.

I never thought of Kawhi on the Sixers, I always figured he would take that SuperMax contract they are gonna offer him, and call it a career.

Not really much more to say on it though till something starts to develop.

How about Warriors working out LiAngelo (nuKlay) Ball though....
I don't think I could suffer through Lavar Ball repping the Dubs though. He needs to either stay in LA or Lithuania with LaMelo
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: broodwars on June 16, 2018, 09:09:04 AM
Been some talk going around about the Jazz possibly trading for Kevin love, giving the Cavs some minor bench players (and Alec Burks) and some first round picks for him. It'd be a good trade for the Jazz since they'd give up nothing of value & Favors could be the bench backup at that position.

I dunno, though. It feels like the Jazz really need a PG (Donovan usually plays SG) and a backup center on par with Gilbert, not a PF.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Adrock on June 16, 2018, 02:59:42 PM
That Lakers situation of Kawhi, PG13 and Lebron is scary for the Warriors.
Depending on who the Lakers would give up. My money is still on the Warriors until I’m given reason to change my mind. It’s on other teams to prove they can hang with the champs.
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I never thought of Kawhi on the Sixers, I always figured he would take that SuperMax contract they are gonna offer him, and call it a career.
I’ve heard conflicting things on this, ranging from the Spurs not wanting to offer the supermax because they’re so used to the David Robinson and Tim Duncan types who will take a discount to be part of a system and basically shut up and play to the Spurs apparently taking the supermax off the table until Leonard proved he was committed to the team, as in they would wait until at least he got back on the court and played for a while before offering it which wasn’t even a guarantee. Bad move? Maybe the Spurs called his bluff? Leonard (and/or his camp) already felt slighted by the handling of his injury. Wouldn’t surprise me if the Spurs were so bold.

I’m not really sure how I feel about this. Was all this squabbling on Leonard’s people to force Spurs to offer the supermax? Did the Spurs really mismanage his injury despite being known as the team that doesn’t do that? Either way, an $80 million difference is a lot at stake. I tend to side with players more than teams. And if the Spurs refused to even entertain a trade to the team Leonard requested just to spite him, that shows their true colors. I wouldn’t want to play there if I was a star player.
Been some talk going around about the Jazz possibly trading for Kevin love, giving the Cavs some minor bench players (and Alec Burks) and some first round picks for him. It'd be a good trade for the Jazz since they'd give up nothing of value & Favors could be the bench backup at that position.
Assuming LeBron James leaves, the Cavs definitely want at least a first and preferably not to take on long term money. This would be a good move for the Jazz even though Love is a minus defensive player. I mean, he tries, but he isn’t very good on the side of the court. In any case, the Jazz could use another option on offense instead of asking Donovan Mitchell to do so much. They lost to the Rockets. I wanted but didn’t expect the Jazz to prevail. If the Cavs blow it up this summer, I kind of hope this trade happens. Might as well make the West more competitive.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Adrock on June 20, 2018, 08:02:45 AM
Hornets agreed to trade Dwight Howard to Nets for Timofey Mozgov, cash, and two second round daft picks, 2018 (45th) and 2021. This deal (which can’t be officially completed until July 6) looks worse on paper than it actually is. Both teams get what they want: the Nets create two max slots next summer by shedding Mozgov for Howard’s expiring contract and the Hornets get some much needed salary cap relief. The team is probably going into tank mode. I expect Kenba Walker to be dealt this off-season.

In Kawhi Leonard news, he reportedly met with Gregg Popovich, requested a trade to Los Angeles (preferably Lakers), and will alert other teams interested in a trade that he intends to sign in Los Angeles next year. I’m not sure if he name dropped Lakers specifically. Either way, yikes.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 20, 2018, 09:00:59 AM
Trade value TANKED!!!!

Pops is probably gonna retire after this year if he can't get the Spurs vets to retire and attract new talent or get good draft picks this season.

I feel like this Kawhii, Lebron, PG13 this is gonna happen....
Magic said late last season that they might not chase FA this summer, but wait till next summer....
it all seems to make sense now. Magic don't seem to care about tampering, so I bet there's been some back-channel talks happening to put this all in place since many months ago.
I bet SAS still ship him to some team in the East and let them take a shot at convincing him to stay.

I think it's gonna be an even more interesting off-season this year than last year.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 21, 2018, 08:31:55 AM
Anyone paying attention to the draft?

I'm not personally, but i wouldn't mind hearing someone knowledgeable about its opinion on top picks and who should get who and why they would be a good fit, or why certain teams are being stupid to trade/pick/sell.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Adrock on June 21, 2018, 03:58:05 PM
I never watch the draft, but I’ll refresh ESPN to check for selections and, more importantly, trades. I mean, Jimmy Butler was traded on draft night. I love player movement. It’s the only thing that gets me through this part of the off-season. Mid-July to October is brutal.

I don’t know too much about the available players as I haven’t been keeping up with it as much as past years. I think Luka Dončić is considered to be the most polished player in the draft. He probably doesn’t get picked first for a couple reasons. Others are considered to have a higher ceiling. I expect the Suns to pick Deandre Ayton with the first pick because he’s an Arizona Wildcat. It kind of reminds of how the Rockets picked Hakeem Olajuwon, who was a Houston Cougar, with the first pick even though Michael Jordan was on the board. The Kings won’t pick Dončić because if that’s the correct choice, they won’t make it. Marvin Bagley or Trae Young are expected to go two and three, but pour a 40 oz on the curb for the career of the player picked by the Kings.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: broodwars on June 21, 2018, 07:27:11 PM
The Jazz picked Grayson Allen out of Duke for their 1st round pick. I said before that the Jazz really needed another Guard, and that's exactly what they drafted. He's apparently good, but more of a defensive player than a shooter. I'm not familiar with college players, but this sounds like the right call.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: broodwars on June 25, 2018, 06:49:51 PM
Donovan Mitchell got robbed, and by a middling player in the Leastern Conference who's not even a Rookie, no less.  ::)

Edit: I wish the news about these rewards was more accurately reported, as I continually saw people other than Golbert listed as winning Defensive Player of the Year, but nope! It went to Rudy Golbert. Well deserved.
Pity to lose Coach of the Year to the guy who was so terrible he's not even coach of the Raptors anymore.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Adrock on June 25, 2018, 07:21:32 PM
Jebus, man. Those are some sour grapes.

1. Ben Simmons had a better overall year. Yeah, it was closer than anyone was expecting; Simmons still had a better year.
2. It doesn’t matter that Simmons plays in the East.
3. It also doesn’t matter that Simmons redshirted the year he was drafted. He didn’t play a single second that year. Full stop.
4. Rookie of the Year is a trash tier award. It ultimately says nothing about what a player will become or how long he’ll be in the league. Michael Carter-Williams, 2014 Rookie of the Year, was in the same draft class as Giannis Antetokounmpo and even another Jazz player, Rudy Gobert. I guess no expected them to be as good as they became, but that’s exactly my point.
5. Donovan Mitchell is a player the Jazz had no business getting for what they traded to get him. That’s worth more than some award that only matters when a player doesn’t live up to it (see: MCW again).
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: broodwars on June 25, 2018, 07:24:49 PM
Jebus, man. Those are some sour grapes.

1. Ben Simmons had a better overall year. Yeah, it was closer than anyone was expecting; Simmons still had a better year.
2. It doesn’t matter that Simmons plays in the East.
3. It also doesn’t matter that Simmons redshirted the year he was drafted. He didn’t play a single second that year. Full stop.
4. Rookie of the Year is a trash tier award. It ultimately says nothing about what a player will become or how long he’ll be in the league. Michael Carter-Williams, 2014 Rookie of the Year, was in the same draft class as Giannis Antetokounmpo and even another Jazz player, Rudy Gobert. I guess no expected them to be as good as they became, but that’s exactly my point.
5. Donovan Mitchell is a player the Jazz had no business getting for what they traded to get him. That’s worth more than some award that only matters when a player doesn’t live up to it (see: MCW again).

Sorry, but playing in the Eastern Conference taints everything for me. It's been a joke of a conference pretty much as far back as I can remember, with only 2-3 teams even remotely competitive. It enables players to pad their stats far more than you see in the Western Conference.

So yeah, there's definitely sour grapes, but I doubt he'd been anywhere near as successful if he wasn't playing against scrubs most of the year.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Soren on June 25, 2018, 07:40:33 PM
Donovan Mitchell got robbed, and by a middling player in the Leastern Conference who's not even a Rookie, no less.  ::)


 ::)  right back at ya with that bogus statement.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: nickmitch on June 26, 2018, 10:27:37 AM
If anyone got robbed, it was Anthony Davis.

Or maybe also LeBron.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 26, 2018, 11:25:19 AM
Were the NBA Awards last night!?

Damn missed it. Someone post the full results.
How was the show? Who hosted, and were they any good?

I need the deets.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Shaymin on June 26, 2018, 12:33:42 PM
MVP: James Harden (Houston)
RotY: Ben Simmons (Process)
6th Man: Lou Williams (Clippers)
Defensive Player: Rudy Gobert (Jazz)
Most Improved: Victor Oladipo (Pacers)
Coach of the Year: Dwayne Casey (Raptors Pistons)
Full voting results (http://www.nba.com/nbaawards/2018/finalists)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 26, 2018, 05:33:33 PM
Damn, I don't see Curry name anywhere in there... I wonder how he feels knowing the only award he got this year was an NBA Championship.

I hope he tries harder next year.
I mean Durant got 3+ awards this year. Step your game up Curry.  SMH
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: nickmitch on June 27, 2018, 10:38:24 AM
Damn, I don't see Curry name anywhere in there... I wonder how he feels knowing the only award he got this year was an NBA Championship.

LOL

MVP: James Harden (Houston)
RotY: Ben Simmons (Process)
6th Man: Lou Williams (Clippers)
Defensive Player: Rudy Gobert (Jazz)
Most Improved: Victor Oladipo (Pacers)
Coach of the Year: Dwayne Casey (Raptors Pistons)
Full voting results (http://www.nba.com/nbaawards/2018/finalists)


You forgot to mention that Bill Russel flipped off Charles Barkley to great hilarity.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: broodwars on July 01, 2018, 06:35:29 AM
So Free Agency has officially started, and it looks like we have our first big development of it: OKC's Paul George choosing to stay with OKC, despite heavy courting from the Jazz.

OKC just dumped a ton of money into keeping a squad of veteran players who got taken out in the 1st round last year and definitely wouldn't have taken out Houston or Golden State. I can't say I understand that.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Soren on July 01, 2018, 08:40:08 AM
Was it worth it, Magic? wink wink
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Adrock on July 01, 2018, 08:48:16 AM
LOL Lakers

Some salty Lakers fans because Paul George re-signed with the Thunder. I’m genuinely glad he stayed where he’s comfortable and happy. Fans can get caught up with their own fandom and forget these players are still people. The only thing that confused me was George didn’t sign a three years with a player option so he can opt out and get the 10-year veterans max. Maybe he was worried about injuries?

Lakers are still courting LeBron James and apparently, DeMarcus Cousins now who is working his way back from an Achilles tear. I don’t think that’s a bad plan because Cousins fits better with what the Lakers want to do with a certain disgruntled Spurs star. If they traded for Kawhi Leonard, I wouldn’t want to pay George, a third starting wing, $30 million to be the third option. The Lakers would have a hole at center. With Cousins, he may be more accommodating with his contract due to his injury. If the Lakers want Kawhi Leonard, they will need to structure both Cousins’ and Julius Randle’s contracts to be less in the second year. Additionally, maybe the Lakers can convince the Pelicans to do a sign and trade to dump Deng with Lonzo Ball and maybe a pick. Better than losing Cousins for nothing. Pick and roll with Ball and Anthony Davis would be something to sell fans.

Anyway, besides George, not too many surprises so far. Chris Paul gave up a fifth year to return to the Rockets. That contract is going to be awful in the latter half. I didn’t expect Trevor Ariza to sign with the Suns. He already has a ring so maybe he just wanted to get paid. Mark Cuban did the Lakers a huge favor by signing DeAndre Jordan instead of trying to pry Randle away with a rich offer sheet. It gives them more time to figure out what to do while James and Cousins decide what they’re going to do.
OKC just dumped a ton of money into keeping a squad of veteran players who got taken out in the 1st round last year and definitely wouldn't have taken out Houston or Golden State. I can't say I understand that.
I imagine the Thunder owners see value in putting a watchable roster and to try to keep Russell Westbrook happy. He starts sulking about not getting help and that super max is looking like a tough pill to swallow.
Was it worth it, Magic? wink wink
Yes. Three weeks ago, they didn’t know Kawhi Leonard was in play. Leonard is a much better player, but Magic didn’t know he would be available. Target the players you think you have a chance at signing.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Adrock on July 01, 2018, 05:29:21 PM
Lakers officially signed LeBron James to a four year, $154 million deal.

Next up, DeMarcus Cousins. Come on...
(https://i.imgur.com/wRwLV98.gif)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Shaymin on July 01, 2018, 05:42:52 PM
If Toronto manages to survive the Celtics and the Process, does the Eastern Conference title have an asterisk because Lebron went out West?
At least he doesn't have to worry about a ninth straight finals, though,
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: broodwars on July 01, 2018, 05:47:28 PM
Lakers officially signed LeBron James to a four year, $154 million deal.

Next up, DeMarcus Cousins. Come on...
(https://i.imgur.com/wRwLV98.gif)

It takes talent to screw over the same team twice. I think he'll find carrying a team to the Finals all by himself considerably more difficult in the West than in the Leastern Conference.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Adrock on July 01, 2018, 05:55:24 PM
If LeBron James cared about getting to the Finals next year, he wouldn’t have signed with the Lakers. He’s only in Los Angeles for his family and his brand. Without a sign and trade, Lakers are likely out of the running for DeMarcus Cousins after re-signing Kentavious Caldwell-Pope so James is betting Magic Johnson can pull a rabbit out of his hat and get him more help at the trade deadline or next summer. If nothing else, the Lakers should be more fun next season.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: nickmitch on July 01, 2018, 06:47:03 PM
LeBron going to LA means they'll probably get Cousins.  Which means the Pels will likely trade Anthony Davis, resulting in us turning into the Process: South. :(
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Adrock on July 01, 2018, 07:02:32 PM
No way the Pelicans trade Anthony Davis unless he demands a trade. A sign and trade to the Lakers for Lonzo Ball and Luol Deng (for CBA purposes) would be better than losing Cousins for nothing. Ball is a minus shooter, but he can get the ball wherever Davis needs it. Davis is also the best pick and roll player in the league. Pair him with great passer, and there’s something to build on. I’d be more worried about Danny Ainge tossing assets at the Pelicans. No need to trade him unless he wants out.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Adrock on July 01, 2018, 08:38:55 PM
Lakers signed Lance Stevenson ($4.5 million, room exception) and JaVale McGee  ($2.5 million, vet minimum). Oh, please bring back Nick Young.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: nickmitch on July 01, 2018, 09:03:36 PM
No way the Pelicans trade Anthony Davis unless he demands a trade. A sign and trade to the Lakers for Lonzo Ball and Luol Deng (for CBA purposes) would be better than losing Cousins for nothing. Ball is a minus shooter, but he can get the ball wherever Davis needs it. Davis is also the best pick and roll player in the league. Pair him with great passer, and there’s something to build on. I’d be more worried about Danny Ainge tossing assets at the Pelicans. No need to trade him unless he wants out.

The issue isn't if we want to keep him, but if he wants to stay in two years.  If they can pull a sign and trade, then that could work long term.  If not, we lose Cousins for nothing and in two years, we'll lose Davis for just as much.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Adrock on July 01, 2018, 09:27:32 PM
The Pelicans even trading for DeMarcus Cousins was worth it even if he leaves. It shows how serious ownership/front office is to improving the team.

Agreeing to a sign and trade is in the Pelicans best interest if Cousins plans to leave anyway. They’d have to take a bath on Luol Deng’s contract, but it nets them a decent young piece for the next seven years.

Anyway, my hope is for the Lakers to play chicken with the Spurs regarding Kawhi Leonard. No need to include Brandon Ingram or Kyle Kuzma, let alone both. As long as the Lakers have cap space next summer, no one is will give up anything of value. The Spurs apparently asked the Sixers for three first round picks along with some young players. Leonard wants to play in Los Angeles, especially the Lakers now that they have LeBron. If the Lakers are patient, the Spurs may end up with Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (once he’s able to be traded), Ivica Zubac, and two late first round picks.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Khushrenada on July 01, 2018, 11:10:43 PM
Lakers officially signed LeBron James to a four year, $154 million deal.

Next up, DeMarcus Cousins. Come on...
(https://i.imgur.com/wRwLV98.gif)

Did Toronto pitch in to pay for half that contract? You know what the Raptors are thinking now...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/ToMjGpKniGqRNLGBrhu/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Soren on July 02, 2018, 06:32:03 AM
Raptors are chokers. If not Cleveland, it will be Boston or Philly. They have zero chance.


Also, LeBron signing and bringing over a bunch of old people he's played against. Where have I seen that move before?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Adrock on July 02, 2018, 07:03:42 AM
Also, LeBron signing and bringing over a bunch of old people he's played against. Where have I seen that move before?
Who are you referring to? LeBron James will be the second oldest player on the Lakers after Luol Deng. Both are 33. JaVale McGee is 30, Lance Stephenson is 28, and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope is 25 (though he was on the Lakers last year). Everyone else already on the roster is 24 and under.

The three non-LeBron signings are one-year deals to keep a max slot open for next year to hold leverage over the Spurs and any team considering trading for Kawhi Leonard. LeBron James agreed to a four-year deal, giving the Lakers the luxury of time and patience. I doubt the plan is to gut the team for Leonard and sign a bunch of old, veterans minimum guys. As long as that max slot exists, it’s curtains for the Spurs. No team is desperate enough to give up decent assets to rent a currently injured player even if that player is top five. The Spurs better accept the fact that the best they can do are some draft picks and miscellaneous players to match salaries before the trade deadline in February. Stephenson and Caldwell-Pope probably gets the Lakers close enough once they’re eligible to be traded.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: broodwars on July 02, 2018, 03:31:26 PM
It must be nice to be the Lakers, able to just give the salary cap a middle finger whenever you want & throw cash at buying any big name talent at will. -_-
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Adrock on July 02, 2018, 03:51:57 PM
It must be nice to be the Lakers, able to just give the salary cap a middle finger whenever you want & throw cash at buying any big name talent at will. -_-
If that was even remotely true, the Lakers wouldn’t have the lowest win percentage of any team over the last five years. Seriously, that’s mathematically true. Yes, that includes the Sixers who were actively and unabashedly trying to lose during four of those years. Jim Buss spent whole summers trying to throw money at players until his own sister fired him. Kevin Durant and just two days ago, Paul George didn’t even grant the team a free agent meeting. Are you even fucking trying? Don’t spread your fake bullshit around here, sir. I literally just countered it with simple math.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Soren on July 02, 2018, 04:23:20 PM
I am having a hard time understanding the Lakers' roster moves. The only reasons I can see you wanting Rondo on your team is because a:LeBron remembers how good he played those times against him or b: they think they can cozy up to Boogie with him.


Just, why.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Shaymin on July 02, 2018, 05:39:24 PM
Man, if I'm Mark Cuban, I'm never talking to Demarcus Cousins again. One year, $5m with the Warriors.
Edit: Wrong Cousins. Welp, it's official: when the Warriors threepeat, you can blame it on the Boogie.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Adrock on July 02, 2018, 05:43:35 PM
Cancel the season. Nothing to see here.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!2
Post by: Soren on July 02, 2018, 05:52:10 PM
LOL
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on July 02, 2018, 06:04:05 PM
BTW this makes perfect sense for Boogie. He gets to rehab his achilles in a low-pressure environment and remove his bad teammate tag as well. Still, it's an intense dick move to sign below market value.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on July 02, 2018, 06:16:29 PM
He likely wanted the one year, knowing that the injury would hurt his value over a 4 or 5-year contract.  The below market price is likely due to the Warriors basically offering a free ring.

In other news, RIP Pelicans. :(
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on July 02, 2018, 06:23:36 PM
Pelicans got Julius Randle, who was arguably the Lakers best player, on a below market value contract.

I kind of hate seeing players take less money. The owners make billions so I never feel bad for them from a financial standpoint. As far as DeMarcus Cousins, he probably took less money to hopefully win a ring while he rehabs and reminds the league how good he is. Many teams will have cap space next year.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 02, 2018, 06:29:55 PM
Is this news considered "the rich getting richer"!?
LOL

5 All-Stars next season?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on July 02, 2018, 06:51:04 PM
Pelicans got Julius Randle, who was arguably the Lakers best player, on a below market value contract.

Best player on a trash team is still kinda meh for losing Cousins and Rondo.  But I guess we also got Elfrid Payton?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 02, 2018, 06:55:21 PM
Pelicans got Julius Randle, who was arguably the Lakers best player, on a below market value contract.

Best player on a trash team is still kinda meh for losing Cousins and Rondo.  But I guess we also got Elfrid Payton?

Elfrid finally cute that hair hat right? He might be decent when he can stop blocking his own view of the rim.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on July 02, 2018, 07:06:01 PM
Best player on a trash team is still kinda meh for losing Cousins and Rondo.
I’d at least look up Randle highlights before passing judgement. He was a beast last season. I’m disappointed the Lakers let Randle walk for nothing. They could have at least gotten a first round pick or something. Jebus...
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ShyGuy on July 02, 2018, 10:08:52 PM
I can't believe Lebron went to the Lakers. Can they deliver a ring better than anyone else? I guess he's all about that money.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on July 02, 2018, 10:31:41 PM
Yes? The Lakers have won the most titles in the last what, 40 years. The Celtics won most of their championships when Bill Russell was just taller than everyone else. Regardless, I don’t think that’s why LeBron James signed. It’s better for his brand, and his family likes living in Los Angeles. The Lakers have a ton of flexibility with cap space and good, young players so they can improve relatively quickly with an all-star already there. Kawhi Leonard is currently trying to force his way specifically to the Lakers so the plan is working so far. Next summer, Luol Deng will be entering the last year of his contract which becomes an asset because there will always be a team that will trade for an expiring deal. The Lakers were never going to win this year even if they signed Paul George and/or traded for Kawhi Leonard. They’re in a good position movng forward.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 02, 2018, 11:08:43 PM
I did some reading and I think I'm all caught up on the Cuz in the Bay situation.

Pelicans floated a figure, but it wasn't the Max Contract that Boogie wanted.
He figured they were playing hard ball because of his injury. Boogie hoped to entertain other offers, but none came... Pels never made a formal offer as they felt he might not like that 3/30M offer instead of the 3/80M Max contract (made up numbers on my part to demonstrate point) so DMC said  "**** It" if no one wants to play ball because of his injury and pay him what he proved he was worth over this season, the he might as well go to the 1 place that would put him on display (and get him a ring).
He had his agent contact The Warriors.
The Warriors got Durant to take another minor discount, and they used that left over money to sign DMC to a 1year "rehab and prove yourself" contract. It was a "I'll take a HUGE paycut just to say **** YOU to the rest of the league" deal.

Warriors said he might not touch the floor till Jan/Feb
Demarcus says he's hoping to make opening night.
But on the Dubs, he has the luxury of not needing to rush back

So the Warriors happen to luck into another big player signing. Hopefully it pays dividends to DMC and the Dubs. Unfortunately, we're unlikely to see all 5 players make the All-Star Game.

Good news is that Cousins is supposedly running on the treadmill, and thinks he's further along than what's being reported.
But he doesn't need to push too hard, because word is that Damion Jones is doing great on the Warriors Summer League team, and Jordan Bell is still improving as well.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on July 03, 2018, 07:29:25 AM
Zach Lowe has a good piece on ESPN: Is DeMarcus Cousins a good fit in Golden State? (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23979341/zach-lowe-demarcus-cousins-golden-state-warriors-nba)

He raises concerns that the Warriors likely won’t be able to re-sign Cousins especially if he plays well, and he was a liability on defense even before his injury. Since Cousins likely won’t play the whole season, the Warriors are paying him to basically get into game shape for the few months then be ready for the playoffs. Sounds good to me. Even with the injury, I expected him to get a max offer. The Warriors get him for the taxpayer mid-level exception. I’d rather have DeMarcus Cousins than not have DeMarcus Cousins.

He gets a lot of flak for his temper on the court. Dude played most of his career with the Kings, arguably the worst run team in the league. I’d be angry all the time too. Off the court, besides a bar fight, he really gets involved with the community. He holds basketball camps. I vaguely recall reading Cousins once donated a bunch of money anonymously or at least very quietly, but the charity chairman outed him because they thought he deserved the credit. He may come off as a petulant child on the court, but put him in a better situation (like the Warriors) and he’ll probably be in a sounder mindspace. Good for him, and good for the Warriors.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 03, 2018, 08:56:05 AM
I am in the camp of this not being a very good move for the league. With Boogie signed to the Warriors it essentially makes the Warriors pretty much unbeatable at every position with Curry, Thompson, Durant, Green and Cousins their likely starting line up is going to be harder to beat than last year where aside from the Rockets really didn't have much problem in the playoffs.  With Lebron coming to the Lakers the east is going to be not really a series with most teams in the west.  Most likely a west team is going to have to take out the Warriors and that is going to be harder then it was last year where they swept the Cavs in the finals. 
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on July 03, 2018, 06:17:32 PM
According to Marc Stein the Lakers could have signed Boogie to virtually the same deal he got from the Warriors.

They passed.

https://deadspin.com/oh-come-on-the-lakers-passed-on-demarcus-cousins-1827332178
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 03, 2018, 06:27:58 PM
I saw that earlier and I am going to say it makes sense to pass on Boogie for that short term of a deal considering the injury.   Near the tail end of Kobe's career he had the same injury and he really didn't recover from it and wasn't 100% even after a year. Lakers do have Brook Lopez that they can resign still so as long as the Lakers get him or someone else under contract as a center then the sting should be lessened.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 03, 2018, 06:44:59 PM
As to Kawai Leonard and the Spurs, the Spurs are asking from the lakers essentially their entire young core of Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart, Kyle Kuzma, 2 first round picks and 2 second round picks.   This is essentially the Carmelo Anthony trade from the Nuggets to the Knicks several years ago.  Doesn't make much sense to gut the team when you can get Leonard next season in free agency.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 03, 2018, 07:25:26 PM
I was listening to the radio this morning, and they announced that Curry and Green got signed by the Trailblazer. I kinda panicked for a moment, and then realized they meant Seth Curry, and one of 3 other Greens from some other team that no one really cares about.

Then I realized that The Lakers should have signed both of them so that Lebron could finally play with Curry and Green, then bring over Tristan so he also gets a Thompson.

and on an unrelated note regarding DMC, you know especially in the case that Cousins come back as a killer, it's better to play with him, than play against him for a year than against him.

I also find it absolutely hilarious how many interneters have RAGE QUIT the NBA over an achilles injured Cousins signing with The Warriors, who may not even play till Feb 2019, and might not even be that good when he get back on the court. (all big if's might's and may's, but still). And all of this on the same week that Lebron James not only left the the East but joined The Lakers.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 03, 2018, 07:59:29 PM
I saw that earlier and I am going to say it makes sense to pass on Boogie for that short term of a deal considering the injury.   Near the tail end of Kobe's career he had the same injury and he really didn't recover from it and wasn't 100% even after a year. Lakers do have Brook Lopez that they can resign still so as long as the Lakers get him or someone else under contract as a center then the sting should be lessened.

I think it makes sense for the Lakers to pass on him too, even at an MLE.
They are hoping to make the Playoffs.... (Conference) Finals this year. They need that slot filled from beginning of the season till the end of the season.
Warriors could afford to take the risk, because they don't actually need him, at least not right away.
They have Jordan Bell, Damion Jones as young centers. Draymond a the SB Center. Did Zaza and Javale both get released? What about West? Did he retire? and then you have Boogie whenever he's good to go. and that doesn't even account for whatever other vet comes over for the minimum 1-2 year contract
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 03, 2018, 08:14:21 PM
I saw that earlier and I am going to say it makes sense to pass on Boogie for that short term of a deal considering the injury.   Near the tail end of Kobe's career he had the same injury and he really didn't recover from it and wasn't 100% even after a year. Lakers do have Brook Lopez that they can resign still so as long as the Lakers get him or someone else under contract as a center then the sting should be lessened.

I think it makes sense for the Lakers to pass on him too, even at an MLE.
They are hoping to make the Playoffs.... (Conference) Finals this year. They need that slot filled from beginning of the season till the end of the season.
Warriors could afford to take the risk, because they don't actually need him, at least not right away.
They have Jordan Bell, Damion Jones as young centers. Draymond a the SB Center. Did Zaza and Javale both get released? What about West? Did he retire? and then you have Boogie whenever he's good to go. and that doesn't even account for whatever other vet comes over for the minimum 1-2 year contract

Looks like no one has signed West yet and he is a unrestricted free agent, Zaza is in the same boat as West unsigned and unrestricted. I do know that JaVale got sent to the Lakers.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on July 03, 2018, 08:15:42 PM
Regarding Marc Stein’s report, my only guess is that the Lakers didn’t sign DeMarcus Cousins because they want that salary for trade deadline moves. Without a trade, the Lakers are not contending this year. If any of Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Lance Stephenson, or Rajon Rondo play well this year especially with the LeBron Bump ®, they may be flipped to a contender for a pick which can then be attached to Luol Deng next summer. Trading Deng without taking salary back would give the Lakers around $41 million in cap space next summer. They can’t do any of that with Cousins not playing. And they may want to sign him long-term later so they can’t disrespect him by using him as trade bait. Right now, it’s all about keeping their cap space open to put the pressure on the Spurs who are hilariously asking for Brandon Ingram, Kyle Kuzma, Josh Hart, two first round picks, and two swaps in a Kawhi Leonard trade.

I don’t understand why people are freaking out about Cousins to the Warriors. First, the Warriors likely can’t re-sign him. The most they can offer next summer unless they lose both Durant and Thompson is the same mid-level exception multiplied by 1.25. Cousins took a discount since he was coming off a devastating injury. Second, he won’t be good next year; he’ll be fine. The Warriors are so good that they don’t need him to be All-Star Cousins. You take talent when you can get it. However, I feel like JaVale McGee was a better fit. He’s an energy guy who hustles on defense and can usually make easy buckets when defenses collapse on literally anyone else. Cousins isn’t that guy. When healthy, he’s an elite offensive player. The Warriors don’t need more offense. Their defense relies on switching. Cousins, especially working his way back from injury, is a highly exploitable weak link on defense. That won’t be a problem against most teams. It will be against James Harden and Chris Paul.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 03, 2018, 08:43:00 PM
I think the main reason there is the uproar over Cousins going to the Warriors is that it is setting a precident for the future with things going forward. What I mean is Cousins is a in their prime all-star and he took a pay cut essentially to get a ring most likely.  I mean this whole thing kinda started with LeBron when he went to Miami with Bosh and Wade. An all-star in Wade and Bosh and a top 5 player of all time in LeBron. Then Durant lost to the Warriors when he was on the Thunder and then the next season joined the Warriors and there was that backlash of joining a stacked team that were the NBA champions. Then this off season Boogie joined the warriors for a MLE after losing to the Warriors in the second round with Anthony Davis who pretty much brought the Pelicans to the 6th seed while Cousins was recovering.   

So yeah it is pretty multi tiered why people are upset at Cousins joining the Warriors. TLDR: Left to go to the stacked world champ, Left Anthony Davis hanging after during the season they were really clicking together before Boogie got injured and pretty much signing to the champs to get a ring most likely.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on July 03, 2018, 10:18:33 PM
I understand the knee jerk reaction to hearing another all-star joining the Warriors. However, this doesn’t push the needle much for an already great team. I’ve already explained why this both helps and hurts the Warriors so I don’t want to go over that again. The most important bit is that he’s a one year rental. The Warriors don’t have the cap space to re-sign him long-term for the money he wants. The only reason Cousins had his agent call the Warriors is because no one else wanted him coming off an injury. He wanted a max offer from The Pelicans. They offered him $40 million for two years with a second year team option. He refused. He has wanted to join the Lakers for years. They refused (for now) because they want Kawhi Leonard.

Cousins is betting on himself to get back to somewhere close to his old form. Joining a team that doesn’t really need him to win games allows him to come back at his own pace. If he proves that he can play at a high level in the playoffs, he gets to re-enter the free agent market next summer when more teams have cap space.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 03, 2018, 10:54:29 PM
I understand the knee jerk reaction to hearing another all-star joining the Warriors. However, this doesn’t push the needle much for an already great team. I’ve already explained why this both helps and hurts the Warriors so I don’t want to go over that again. The most important bit is that he’s a one year rental. The Warriors don’t have the cap space to re-sign him long-term for the money he wants. The only reason Cousins had his agent call the Warriors is because no one else wanted him coming off an injury. He wanted a max offer from The Pelicans. They offered him $40 million for two years with a second year team option. He refused. He has wanted to join the Lakers for years. They refused (for now) because they want Kawhi Leonard.

Cousins is betting on himself to get back to somewhere close to his old form. Joining a team that doesn’t really need him to win games allows him to come back at his own pace. If he proves that he can play at a high level in the playoffs, he gets to re-enter the free agent market next summer when more teams have cap space.
I agree with you on all that.  I am just saying for this season that he is on the Warriors it is going to be pretty much a lock for the warriors to win again. Out east currently I would say the Celtics, 76ers and the Raptors are looking like are coming out of the East as the Finals representitive most likely now that LeBron is out of the East but it is likely none of those can compete with the Warriors. 

  We shall see what happens with free agency, trades and the like and see what happens from here. 
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on July 04, 2018, 12:08:33 AM
Looney signed for the minimum so I don't see West or Zaza returning.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Shaymin on July 04, 2018, 09:31:32 AM
Between salary and the luxury tax, we have the first $300m team in NBA history.

And it's not the Lakers. No, it's... the Zombie Sonics.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ShyGuy on July 04, 2018, 09:44:32 AM
Weren't the Sonics supposed to come back at one point?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 04, 2018, 12:46:28 PM
Weren't the Sonics supposed to come back at one point?

At some point yes.   If the NBA expands the teams two more teams the Sonics are one of the teams most likely to come about from that decision. 
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 04, 2018, 07:27:16 PM
This is hilarious.
https://mobile.twitter.com/espn/status/1014351716878340097/video/1

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_xP7libTZo

And I think if they expand, Seattle and Las Vegas  are the 2 most likely expansion locations.
And this would likely move Memphis Grizz back to the East where they belong.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 04, 2018, 07:48:03 PM
BNM that video is so on point.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 04, 2018, 08:21:55 PM
This is hilarious.
https://mobile.twitter.com/espn/status/1014351716878340097/video/1

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_xP7libTZo
BNM that video is so on point.

#accuratereenactment

The best part was after the fade to black.

"Real G's move in silence, like in Lasagna"
"The whole league out here playing checkers... We out here playing Chess"
"What did LeBron say!?.... Not 1, Not 2... Not 3, you were prophecizing , just about us!!"

LMAO
The whole video was very on point for reactions around the league.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 06, 2018, 01:29:17 PM
Looks like the Thunder is stretching Melo out of OKC to save some money in their luxury tax.   

Looks like the Lakers, Trailblazers, Rockets or the Heat could be options for Melo.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 06, 2018, 10:38:33 PM
He'd be lucky if any of them were interested.
Luckily the Rockets were, according to sources. ;)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on July 18, 2018, 06:01:20 AM
Per ESPN, Raptors agree to deal to acquire Spurs' Kawhi Leonard for DeMar DeRozan (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24128461/toronto-raptors-agree-deal-acquire-kawhi-leonard-trade-involves-demar-derozan)

Unsurprisingly, neither player is enthusiastic about the deal.

This is probably the best deal the Spurs could hope for especially if the they can get a pick. If I’m the the Raptors, I’d push for a pick from the Spurs since DeRozan has three years left on his deal. Everyone knows Leonard doesn’t want to be in San Antonio. He also doesn’t want to be in Toronto.

This is not that risky for the Raptors. Even after LeBron James left the East, they had a very tiny window to even get to the Finals with a roster led by Kyle Lowry and DeMar DeRozan. They were going to have to rebuild in a couple years anyway. Leonard is a much better player so they’re throwing a Hail Mary, and if it yields a championship (it won’t), great. If it doesn’t, they get off DeRozan’s money sooner. Either way, making a bold move like this is good for their front office. It shows free agents how serious the team is about trying to win.

I’m really glad the Lakers didn’t pull the trigger on a trade. Chasing Kawhi Leonard probably cost them a meeting with Paul George (try explaining to a marquee free agent that he’ll have to change the way he plays to be the third option). Two weeks before free agency, the Lakers found out they were not only in play for Leonard but were the favorites. They chose to focus on Kawhi Leonard. 100 times out of 100, you make that choice. I still think Kawhi Leonard ends up on the Lakers next year, possibly before the trade deadline. The Raptors know where they stand now, but I don’t think they’ll let him walk for nothing. They either get a commitment from him or they start tanking midseason.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on July 18, 2018, 08:00:51 AM
Congrats to Toronto. Even without LeBron in your conference, you still find ways to own yourselves.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on July 18, 2018, 09:31:25 AM
Congrats to Toronto. Even without LeBron in your conference, you still find ways to own yourselves.
The trade is defensible, but I still laughed out loud in the middle of work. Bravo.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on July 18, 2018, 09:47:24 AM
Spurs are getting a protected 2019 pick out of it too.  Pretty solid trade for them.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on July 18, 2018, 10:42:57 AM
The only way this works for Toronto is if they immediately trade Kawhi to the Lakers and manage to get 2 of their young core and a pick. Then they suddenly get younger and have more potential down the line.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on July 18, 2018, 12:05:58 PM
The Lakers aren’t willing to trade their young core. Otherwise, they would already have Kawhi Leonard. Brandon Ingram isn’t as good as Paul George, but he’s about as good as they’d need a third option to be. The Lakers are right to wait it out and either sign Leonard as a free agent or trade significantly fewer assets. They signed a bunch of one-year deals and let Julius Randle walk just to have that leverage.

I doubt the Raptors believe they’re keeping Kawhi Leonard. They just knew they weren’t winning with DeMar DeRozan as their best player. They’ll make a run this year with a hopefully healthy Kawhi Leonard, but the team was always headed for a rebuild with or without him. Teams rebuild with draft picks and cap space. When/if they lose Leonard, they can use cap space to absorb a bad contract for picks. The Raptors are a treadmill team in the East. Masai Ujiri is betting by the time the Raptors are good again, the Warriors won’t be.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on July 18, 2018, 03:31:54 PM
Bit disappointed in the Jazz this off-season. They basically resigned almost everyone from last year except a few 3rd-stringers they've already replaced with Summer League players. They resigned Favors, so that's great. But we basically didn't get any better during the off-season aside from drafting a promising new point guard.
I wonder if we'll see them more active on the Trading Circuit as the season goes on.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 18, 2018, 04:17:37 PM
This trade for Kawhi by the Raptors I think was the best anyone could offer that both sides would agree on. 

Raptors get Kawhi and Danny Green. Spurs get DeMar Dorzan, Jacob Poetli, and a protected 1-20 2019 first round pick which after 1 year will turn into two 2nd round picks.


One thing that I think makes this trade a little one sided long term is that the Raptors traded Dorzan who might have had been able to keep Kawhi around after the year but that isn't likely now.   This trade is most likely just to get an wing in Green and cap space after Kawhi's year is up.   


It will make the east a bit more interesting to watch now with the Raptors, 76ers, and Celtics most likely coming out at title contenders in the east.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 19, 2018, 04:54:42 PM
Looks like the Thunder traded Melo to the Hawks and it looks like they are going to waive him so he can go to the Rockets.

https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2018/7/19/17590136/atlanta-hawks-trade-dennis-schroder-oklahoma-city-thunder-carmelo-anthony-mike-muscala-trae-young
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 10, 2018, 07:43:45 PM
NBA Game Schedule is out.
http://stats.nba.com/schedule/

Here is Opening Night:
(https://i.imgur.com/NJbrxMg.png)

KD gets his 2nd ring right before tip-off infront of Westbrook.

Warriors face off against Lebron and the Lakers on X-Mas and MLK Day

Televised games list is out too
(https://i.imgur.com/r2xHFwp.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on August 10, 2018, 08:01:22 PM
Honestly none of the teams that have 1 game on national TV deserve it.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on August 10, 2018, 08:09:08 PM
Honestly none of the teams that have 1 game on national TV deserve it.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 10, 2018, 10:14:38 PM
Honestly none of the teams that have 1 game on national TV deserve it.

What about the team that has 2?

And I wonder who those 1 games are against.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Shaymin on August 11, 2018, 06:25:08 AM
Still kind of weird to see a Canadian team in the upper third of that list or thereabouts. Time to see how much of a draw Leonard really is.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on August 11, 2018, 06:49:24 AM
Honestly none of the teams that have 1 game on national TV deserve it.

What about the team that has 2?

And I wonder who those 1 games are against.


That Cleveland vs Brooklyn game right before the All-Star break is just what the NBA needs.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on October 06, 2018, 06:49:01 AM
Kevin Durant did a cool thing last night in an NBA Preseason game in Seattle.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do0Zr00UYAAb8H0.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on October 21, 2018, 06:38:48 PM
Suspensions have been handed out for last night’s fight during the Lakers/Rockets game.

Brandon Ingram: Four games
Rajon Rondo: Three games
Chris Paul: Two games

Source (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25047465/multiple-suspensions-lakers-rockets-scuffle)

Those suspensions are fair. There’s no place for this during the game. If someone disrespects you, let them hear it, get a technical foul if you don’t mind the fine. Want to settle something? Win the game. When guys start throwing punches, you’re letting your teammates and the fans down because there’s only one outcome: the league is going to thrown the suspension hammer. And it’s just a bad look for the players, the team, and the league.

I don’t know what the **** Brandon Ingram was doing. His behavior was completely out of character. He’s normally like the chillest, quietest player in the league. Dude hit a game winner last year and just casually jogged back to the bench. This year, he’s throwing hands in the second game. I get that James Harden gets superstar treatment from the refs and will get the foul call nine times out of 10, but the Lakers have LeBron James so it evens out. Last night was a completely winnable game. Ingram is the Lakers second best player so there’s no time for that. He’s going to miss games against the Spurs, Suns, Nuggets, and Spurs again. They should win against the Suns either way, but James is going to have to be playoff-LeBron for the Lakers to have a chance to win the other three. It’s too early in the season for that. There’s a possibility the Lakers start 0-6 or 1-5. Was it worth it?

James putting his arm around Paul was bad optics but completely acceptable as far as I’m concerned. If he can use his friendship to de-escalate the situation, I’d rather see that happen. NBA fights are never good anyway. Rondo and Paul each connected, but players usually don’t. They’re either saddest fights ever or it’s Ron Artest running into the stands.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on October 22, 2018, 09:28:08 PM
I think Chris Paul deserved as many, if not more than, as many games as Rondo.  Sure, Rondo threw the first punch, but CP3 shoved his hands in Rondo's face.  That triggered the fighting (I mean, other than the push by Ingram on Harden, who walked away).
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 22, 2018, 09:58:45 PM
Rondo spit in CP3's face.
then CP3 put his finger in Rondo's face before doing a face shove
Then Rondo tried to tune him up a little
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on October 23, 2018, 04:25:05 PM
Oh, I didn't see that Rondo spit at CP3. Ok, that makes more sense now.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 23, 2018, 10:27:16 PM
https://youtu.be/29pOfkYoXEI


Definitely some Rondo spit.
If Ingram was smart though, he would've punched Harden hoping he fought back too. Not that Harden deserved to be involved,  but if you gonna leave your team at a disadvantage,  you should leave the other team in similar or worse shape.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on October 25, 2018, 08:51:56 PM
Hm, I’m not sold that it was an intentional spitting. I was expecting something more like that episode of Flavor of Love.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 25, 2018, 09:19:02 PM
Intentional or not,  he sprayed spit.

But let's talk about UMVP Curry last night.  Whoooooo
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on October 26, 2018, 05:24:07 AM
Well, at the end of all that, the Rockets got to feel what it was like being on the Jazz last year, since the Jazz roasted the Rockets a few days later with Paul out & 2 others on injury.

Not how you would want to get a win, but the Jazz didn't get the best start this year so I'll take a win where I can get it.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 26, 2018, 07:02:10 AM
I was gonna edit this into my post, but broodwars just had to go and post ::rolleyes:: :P

anyway, the most exciting player in the NBA is coming for that #3 spot
(https://i.imgur.com/W4e4q96.png)

(https://media.giphy.com/media/OkVMmBQwRKEsU/giphy.gif)

Korver & Jason Terry officially on notice. The question, is how close to the #2 spot can he get before the season is over?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 26, 2018, 07:48:18 AM
So who wants to predict the Top 8 in the East and the West (we'll do a re-vote in Jan)

and just for fun, since the All-Star break is Top Voter Getter in The East vs Top Vote Getter in the West
Who will be the Team Captain for The East and The West?

Will Kawaii lead the east in votes? or does Embiid run that campaign to a win?
Will Lebron get more votes in the West than Curry? (that could be drama. lol)

I'll edit later with a Top 8 for the East v West Playoffs.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on October 26, 2018, 03:36:36 PM
Honestly, I don't know or care enough about the current make-up of more than 2-3 teams in the league to make an educated guess, especially when it comes to the Leastern Conference, where none of the teams are going to win the championship anyway.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on October 26, 2018, 04:42:16 PM
LeBron should get more votes than Curry.  He has a chance to bring yet another garbage tem to playoff contention, and I think the "new chapter" of his narrative should hit the reset button on LeBron fatigue.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on October 26, 2018, 08:06:14 PM
Wait, Demarcus Cousins got ejected from a game, and he isn’t on the active roster yet. How is that even possible, Boogie?

James will get more votes than Curry just for being on the Lakers. I don’t mean to sound like a homer; this is just the way it is. These are the same people who gave Lonzo Ball more votes than Damian Lillard which is absurd. Lillard is at least a top 20 player.

I don’t have the brain space to list a top eight right now. And teams can change so much around the trade deadline and when players are released/bought out. Does anyone think Tyson Chandler and/or Trevor Ariza make it to March still wearing Suns uniforms? I bet the Lakers are just biding their time until Chandler is bought out because JaVale McGee’s current backup is an undrafted rookie on a two-way contract.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 26, 2018, 08:20:32 PM
Durantula!!! OMG
25 in the fourth.  That missed 3 that bounced right to a wide open Curry that drained it. #deathdagger

Durant had more in the 4th alone,  than the Knicks leading scorer had the entire game.  LMAO
#curryshrug

Eastern Conference:
1. Toronto
2. Boston
3. ...Philly (edit: I'm so embarrassed I forgot about Embiid. LOL)
4. Who else is on the East?
5. Oh yeah, the Bucks
6. Pacers
7. .... hmmmm
8. Pistons... almost forgot about them.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 27, 2018, 09:39:56 AM
Honestly, how do you watch this and not get HYPED?

I'm literally sitting here with a smaile on my face rewatching highlights from this game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8E0t0pigLU

Just the look on the Wizards face when Steph throws up the Rainbow Arch layup after the foul... HAHAHA


This is Dubs Era Basketball at it's finest.
I feel like it's gonna be a fun season.... especially as soon as Klay either conquers the beard, or shaves it to unleash the beast.

....oh an then add Boogie to he mix. #ruinthegame LMAO
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on October 27, 2018, 10:34:26 AM
The three pointer at 1:43 barely touched the net. Jebus...

I don’t think DeMarcus Cousins makes much of an impact this year coming off a ruptured achilles. He’s going to miss most of the year then need an entire calendar year after that to really be effective. Then again, the Warriors don’t need him to be an impact player, and it’s better to have DeMarcus Cousins than not have him. I expect him to have moments this year which, for the Warriors, is a bonus more than anything.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 28, 2018, 11:08:20 AM
Since I know everyone is pressed for time and can't follow all the games.

the most exciting game to watch tomorrow will be the Raptors v Bucks game @ 5pm PST
Both teams are 6-0
Kawhi vs Giannis - both are angling for MVP season, and that type of performance will be needed
One of these teams have to walk away with their first loss for the season.

The Dubs are on the back end of another back2back, this time against the Bulls, but I'm 120% sure the Bucks/Raps game is gonna be LIT and therefore the game to watch.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 28, 2018, 06:21:11 PM
I didn't see it mentioned,  but Tyrone Lue and the assistant coach of the Cavs both got fired today.
K. Love also signed a 4yr $120M extension.
And TT claims that even though the Cavs are 0-6 to start the season, the other Eastern teams have nothing on them because they are still the 4x East Conference Finals Champs.

Nothing but good things happening in Cleveland right now.  No need to worry.  :P
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 28, 2018, 06:22:41 PM
The wrong Cleveland coach got fired.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 28, 2018, 08:12:05 PM
(previous post I just realized was never submitted.....)
Halftime of the Dubs Nets game.... Currry with a new NBA 3pt Record.

Most consecutive games w/ 5+ 3pts made = 7

Unfortunately, Klay is really struggling right now. I really think he may have to shave the beard Tuesday night before the New Orleans game. This will allow him to grow it back during the season and develop his game w/ the beard in development. LOL
The beard will then be back at full strength for the X-Mas Lakers game against Lebron.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on October 29, 2018, 01:31:56 PM

You’re welcome (https://youtu.be/2yf35s55Uyg)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 29, 2018, 03:04:32 PM
Since I know everyone is pressed for time and can't follow all the games.

the most exciting game to watch tomorrow will be the Raptors v Bucks game @ 5pm PST
Both teams are 6-0
Kawhi vs Giannis - both are angling for MVP season, and that type of performance will be needed
One of these teams have to walk away with their first loss for the season.

The Dubs are on the back end of another back2back, this time against the Bulls, but I'm 120% sure the Bucks/Raps game is gonna be LIT and therefore the game to watch.

I hope Adam Silver sees fit to rule this rest day out.

(https://i.imgur.com/XTAMFJV.png)

That was gonna be the most HYPE game of the night..... :/
Better put that money on the Bucks tonight.

I thought they ruled out unnecessary rest days on away games for the good of the product.
Kawhi ain't hurt, I hope he plays tonight.

[edit] Nevermind...

I forgot Giannis took a elbow to the head the other night...
(https://i.imgur.com/PMA3GcH.png)

No Freak No Klaw No Care No Watch

Warrior game got my full attention tonight.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 29, 2018, 05:32:27 PM
Ooh **** y'all. KLAY IS 6 FOR 7 FROM 3 AND WE STILL IN THE 1ST QUARTER!!!!

22pts 🔥🔥🔥
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on October 29, 2018, 06:02:58 PM
Did he shave his beard?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on October 29, 2018, 06:31:46 PM
It's been ruled that the Warriors must pay off the $40 million debt owed to the Oracle Arena before they move to San Francisco.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/10/29/aribrator-golden-state-warriors-must-pay-off-oracle-arena-debt/ (https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/10/29/aribrator-golden-state-warriors-must-pay-off-oracle-arena-debt/)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on October 29, 2018, 06:41:59 PM
Rename this “The Warriors Thread.”
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on October 29, 2018, 06:48:29 PM
Rename this “The Warriors Thread.”

Why not? Clearly, they already bought another championship.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 29, 2018, 08:43:48 PM
Did he shave his beard?

nope.

Broke the NBA 3pt Record w/ 14 threes
and then then Kerr immediately removed all the starters from the building.

We had to watch the end of the bench struggle to make 3 threes to set another 3pt record (most by a team in a single game), and they failed to do that....
it could've easily been done, had Curry just got his 5, instead of diverting EVERYTHING to Klay when Klay was set to break the record before the 3rd was over.

Fun to watch though.

92-50 at the half
I think Klay was 8/10 from 3 at that point.

If the starters had finished the 3rd Qtr, it would've been three 40pt quarters in a row. NBA Team 3pt record broken, and the Bulls retired from professional basketball for the rest of the 2018/2019 season.

At one point in the game, the announcers stated that the Warriors had just as many 3ptrs made as the Bulls had field goals period.... it was an absolute blood bath.
DO NOT let the final score fool you, becuase it should have been much much worse.
The starters got pulled with around 4-5 minutes left in the 3rd I think. 40something point lead at that point.

(https://i.imgur.com/0jnS9G8.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/Egqn3dw.png)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 30, 2018, 08:43:36 AM
Games to keep an eye on tonight (because who's got time to watch them all?)

Pistons v Celtic
Blake Griffin is in his best form at the start of this season. His last game wasn't that hot, but he's been on early MVP campaign for the first few games played.
Kyrie and Hayward are still getting it together, and Taytum is a rising start, but the C's are still a solid squad.
Should be a good game


I'd also say the 76ers v Raptors, but I fully expect Kawhi & Lowry to dismantle Simmons and Embiid.
It might be a good game, but I'm expecting a Raptor win here. 76ers haven't quite found that cohesiveness they had in the last run of last season. Meanwhile Kahwi playing like he has a point to prove.

No other games really seem noteworthy, unless you care to see Westbrick force another loss on the Thunder... not that PG13 is doing much to help turn it into a win either.
or Maybe watch Dame Dolla blaze a trail straight through Houston, assuming Harden is still out. If Harden is back, then this could be a game to tune into for a bit.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 30, 2018, 09:21:24 AM
Rename this “The Warriors Thread.”
Rename this “The Warriors Thread.”

Why not? Clearly, they already bought another championship.

Haters gonna hate.

The most ELECTRIFYING team in Sports today, and you both seem a little salty about it. LOL

Revising my East standing....
Probably a little early for this. Need atleast 20/25 games to get a real feel for how the teams are playing, but it's not like this matters for anything.

1. Raptors
2. Bucks
3. Celtics
4. 76ers
5. Pacers
6. Pistons
7. Heat ?
8. Hornets ?

Super early predictions here, and I'm not so sure on 7 & 8
I feel like the Top 6 in the East have a real good shot at playoff standings assuming their seasons don't see something tragic happen. Not sure on the order, but I feel those 6 will stay in play in some position come playoff time.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on October 30, 2018, 11:28:24 AM
It was a joke though there’s a grain of truth to every joke. For an NBA thread, it’s largely about one team. I’ve joined in many Warriors discussions here and rooted for them each of the last four years. I even watched and commented on the video you shared of Curry going off a few days ago so your dig about being salty is more than a little dismissive. You’re better than that, man.

I’ll watch highlights of Klay Thompson breaking the three-point record, but the vast majority of the time, I have no interest in watching one team dismantle another. The Warriors were up by like 40 points. Blowouts are hella boring to me.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on October 30, 2018, 12:12:38 PM
It was a joke though there’s a grain of truth to every joke. For an NBA thread, it’s largely about one team. I’ve joined in many Warriors discussions here and rooted for them each of the last four years. I even watched and commented on the video you shared of Curry going off a few days ago so your dig about being salty is more than a little dismissive. You’re better than that, man.

I’ll watch highlights of Klay Thompson breaking the three-point record, but the vast majority of the time, I have no interest in watching one team dismantle another. The Warriors were up by like 40 points. Blowouts are hella boring to me.

Yeah, same here. I've made no secret that I only really follow one team, and it doesn't help that for the last decade it's felt like all the talent in the league was consolidating into the same 3-4 teams, and those 3-4 teams win most of their games in blowouts. I just don't find that interesting.  So yes, seeing a team that was already stupidly overpowered get even more so during the off season doesn't make them any more interesting to watch from a non-Warriors fan standpoint.

The league would be better and healthier if teams like the current Warriors were not allowed to exist and the talent pool was more evenly spread throughout the league, at least when it comes to free agency. Why even bother having a season & playoffs if the winners have pretty much already been predetermined, barring injury?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on October 30, 2018, 01:08:14 PM
The Warriors built their team fair and square so I have no qualms there. The planets aligned to snag Kevin Durant in free agency. Think about all things that had to happen including but not limited to:

1. The league signs a major television deal.
2. The NBPA rejects cap smoothing meaning teams gained hella cap space summer 2016.
3. Draymond Green gets suspended in the Finals instead of the Western Conference Finals; Cavs win.
4. Kevin Durant shrugs at all the criticism of joining a 73-win team that knocked him out of the playoffs and takes a pay cut.

I don’t think DeMarcus Cousins moves the needle for this team. He’ll be injured for most of it. If anyone wants to be mad at any team for that signing, blame the Lakers because that’s where he wanted to go. Magic Johnson was like, “Nah, Michael Beasley 4ever. LOL!” No one wanted to sign Cousins coming off that injury so he had his agent call the Warriors.

Ultimately, I don’t care if the Warriors win. I just want competitive basketball.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 30, 2018, 05:46:05 PM
 for the record,  i was just giving you two ****.  I know it was a half sarcastic remark.
Sarcasm is hard to pick up,  just assume it's always applies to my post... except when they don't ;)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 31, 2018, 02:05:06 PM
Because we don't all have time to watch every game, there is only 1 game worth watching tonight.

Warriors vs Pelicans

AD has been a BEAST this season, but will he and the Pels be enough to stop of the Dubs from taking turns at repeatedly putting that little orange ball through the rim in fun and exciting ways?
Probably not, but who knows if the Dubs will have a classic COLD game. it will be a good game regardless.


another game to keep an eye on will be the Jazz v Timberwolves.
Apparently Jimmy Butler is sitting this one out (trying to force a trade? Rockets are apparently ready to bet their future on his 1yr contact for this season....), so who knows how it will play out. I'd put my money on the Jazz tho.

(https://i.imgur.com/UqGUjmp.jpg)

Butler denies it's for a forced trade, but instead rest....
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2803795-jimmy-butler-rumors-sg-could-sit-out-for-extended-time-to-try-to-force-trade

[edit]

Happy Halloween from The Warriors
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dq2UijfUUAAzXKg?format=jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on October 31, 2018, 08:23:59 PM
Derrick Rose dropped 50 points on the Jazz. What year is this?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on October 31, 2018, 08:54:31 PM
Derrick Rose dropped 50 points on the Jazz. What year is this?

The Jazz, unfortunately, have a long & proud history of certain players inexplicably going off for career nights against them. I seem to remember Linus Kleiza going off for ridiculous nights on the Nuggets when they played the Jazz.

Edit: Ah, Donovan Mitchell went out of the game in the 4th quarter with a Hamstring Injury. That explains a lot. -_-
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 01, 2018, 09:18:23 AM
I was shocked.... good thing I didn't bet.

D. Rose running MVP game in the year 2018
who saw that coming? I didn't watch the game, but saw the score updates....
D. Mitchell mst've went out early in the 4th, but D Rose was going off all game long.
kinda hurting that Butler argument "You can't win without me!!"
I know D. Rose can't do that on a nightly basis... but... what if he found his mojo on this squad?
I just watched the highlights and damn, dude was doing it last night. Career high 50 for the 2011 MVP. I know we won't likely see that kinda performance from him again, but I'm glad he had a good night.

In other NBA news....
The Lakers barely beat the Mavs - Lebron is struggling with this crew.
It's early in the season though. No reason to panic yet. but they do have the same record as The Nets. LOL

Somehow the Nets beat the Pistons. I guess Blake Griffin had another off night?
Every one of the starters for the Pistons were a minus... yet they only barely lost.

The Nuggets barely scrape by the Bulls in OT.

and Derozan seems to have found a new home on the Spurs. They slaughtered the Suns early on. But it looks like Booker was out again.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 03, 2018, 07:29:18 PM
Damn, the Lakers look TERRIBLE.

I wonder if Lebron sometimes wonders how things could've been had he gone to Philly instead....

It looks like that stern talk down from Jeannie to Magic to Luke to the players didn't have the effect that was expected....
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on November 03, 2018, 07:42:58 PM
I’m currently watching Daredevil, not the game (DD just caught a baton in the air). I just checked the score, and the Lakers are down by one. If they look as bad as you say, what the hell are the Blazers doing?

Semi-related, according to Adrian Wojnarowski, Tyson Chandler is getting bought out by the Suns and will join the Lakers upon clearing waivers. Hey, I got one right. If Chandler can give the team 15 to 20 minutes and just rebound and play defense, it will help tremendously. He’s 36. No need to ask him for more than that.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 03, 2018, 09:08:22 PM
it was 1st quarter when I posted that. Since the, they've managed to look like they play together.
The 1st quarter was pretty horrendous as far as "team basketball" goes. They looked like they never play together, had no idea what the other person was gonna do, or had no actual play to run.

Things seemed to improve in the 2nd quarter. It's like they are still trying to figure out their lineups, and who should be subbed out and when.

2nd unit in the 3rd & 4th was killing it just now though.
Blazers seemed to fall apart offensively for a while and Lakers took advantage and built a nice sized lead. We'll see if they can close this out for their 1st win in Portland in quite a while.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on November 03, 2018, 09:20:14 PM
Blazers seemed to fall apart offensively for a while and Lakers took advantage and built a nice sized lead. We'll see if they can close this out for their 1st win in Portland in quite a while.
The Lakers were up by 20 points before the Blazers cut it to six. They’re still having trouble closing out games.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 03, 2018, 09:45:16 PM
Blazers seemed to fall apart offensively for a while and Lakers took advantage and built a nice sized lead. We'll see if they can close this out for their 1st win in Portland in quite a while.
The Lakers were up by 20 points before the Blazers cut it to six. They’re still having trouble closing out games.

They pulled it off. broke a 16 game vs Portland losing streak.
Barely held on to it. As soon as the starters came back in, Portland started erasing that 20pt lead quickly.
Brandon Ingram looked lost on defense every single time. He was a major reason the lead got erased so quickly.
but JAVALE MCGEE will be the Lakers MVP. LOL
Rondo was killing it for while too though, but I wanna give props to McGee!!!!
He had 6 blocks and currently leading the NBA in that area.
averaging probably close to 3.5 blocks per game. It's the YEAR OF MCGEE in LA.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on November 03, 2018, 09:57:58 PM
I originally edited my previous post so I’ll just reply here:

A win is a win, but that was ugly as usual. Their gameplan is basically run and run some more. They’re kind of a mess out there. They can build these leads, but running isn’t sustainable if that’s all they do. Nine games into the season, they’re going to wear LeBron James out with this style of play. He’s turning 34. Magic Johnson better hope he signs Kevin Durant or Kawhi Leonard next summer because letting Julius Randle and Brook Lopez walk in free agency is a bad look right now. There would be much more cohesion with those two still on the team.

JaVale McGee is weirdly the best value contract in the league right now. The way he’s playing is pretty much why I’ve been saying the Warriors would have been better off with him than DeMarcus Cousins this year. Still, the Lakers are also running McGee I to the ground so it will be good to give Tyson Chandler some of those minutes.

Elsewhere, Victor Oladipo hit a game winner against the Celtics. I was wrong about that trade too. Pacers are looking good this year. Oladipo won the game, but the Celtics probably win the East. Alright, back to Daredevil.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 03, 2018, 10:41:58 PM
Lebron putting Javale's name in the DPOY candidacy hat this year.

(https://i.imgur.com/ptxVOLS.png)

Draymond better step up his block game, if he's angling for that same award.
He got aspirations of a Super Maxx when his contract is up. DPOY makes that possible.

[edit] p.s. Dray is likely the runaway front runner so far this year. But it's early in the season.
We'll have to see if he can keep it up all year long.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 04, 2018, 01:05:20 PM
2 potential good games today.

1st one started 20 minutes ago
Kings vs Bucks

Yes, I am promoting a Kings game. They may actually have a squad worth watching from time to time this year. D'Aaron Fox  has supposedly been holding his own in his rookie year. Not likely a contender this year, but possibly enough of an irritant to give Giannis and the Bucks a challenge 3 Qtrs.

[edit]this game got out of hand a little quickly..... thought the Kings would put a better fight early on.


The other game is the Raptors Lakers game. Not because I think the Lakers will win, but because they REALLY REALLY REALLY need to. Luke Walton barely held on to one last night, it will interesting to see how the Lakers fare against a superior squad led by Kawhi, with new found motivations to win or possibly get their coach fired... and a certain player or 3 traded for a "Jimmy Butler" as soon as it's possible.
Kawhi don't care about none of that though. I expect him to give the Lakers spotty defense and uncoordinated offense a whole lot of trouble.

Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on November 04, 2018, 05:29:36 PM
The Kings got worked. 33 point loss.

Talk of Luke Walton losing his job is overstated. Magic Johnson’s managerial style is apparently to yell a lot. Analysts like Stephen A. Smith like to point out Walton wasn’t Johnson’s hire. That ignores the fact that Walton was the best and most sought after coach when he took the job. He was the Lakers’ first marquee signing in years. More importantly, Jeanie Buss has his back. She’s always been big on the Lakers as a family, taking care of their own and all that. To me, that’s kind of eye roll worthy, but the important thing is she believes it. Walton was part of two championship Lakers teams and known for coaching the Warriors to 39-4, the best start in league history. Who would Johnson/Pelinka replace Walton with anyway? They want fast pace and ball movement. Who is available who is better than Walton right now?

EDIT: Lakers are by 20 in the first quarter to a team without its best player. Jebus...
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 05, 2018, 01:43:04 AM
Did Kawhi not even play?
It looks like Lebron did play though.... I wasn't able to watch the game, but saw the score in the 1st quarter an immediately lost interest.

That's just embarrassing. Lakers had 2 black eyes in the 1st quarter.
I mean I knew the Raps were a better squad, but Lebron can't let that kinda **** happen when Kawhi wasn't even on the court. It was a back to back, but regardless... just embarrassing.

[edit] some interesting info here:
(https://i.imgur.com/EBJx4w9.png)

The Lakers score more with Lebron on the bench

(https://i.imgur.com/5ZXyHjP.png)

Warriors and Cavs on opposite ends of the spectrum here.

not sure if this is saying the exact same thing or not...
(https://i.imgur.com/1aElyQz.png)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 05, 2018, 09:05:40 AM
So many potentially good games to watch tonight.

(https://i.imgur.com/fsYhyiG.png)

Can the #4 Grizz D slow down the #1 Dubs O?
and I think we all know the reason the Warriors aren't rated higher defensively, is because the 2nd/3rd unit is playing a majority of quite a few of these 4th quarters.

Can the Raps put on an offensive assault on the Jazz like they did again the Lakers last night?
DPOY 2017 would like to think he can shut that nonsense down. D. Mitchell should also be ready to get some tonight too. They will have to face Kawhi tonight though, as he is expected to play.

Celtics Nuggets. Kyrie seems to have gotten his mojo back, and being one of the expected Top3 teams in the East, they are gonna want this win against a Top5 rated West team. (I never did do a Western Conference ranking....)

Pels v Thunder. AD has kinda been in a slump since coming back from the elbow injury, but no better time to flex than again Westbrook and the Thunder. WB aint ever taking it easy, and when AD is on, he is not an easy cover. I expect this to be a good battle.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on November 08, 2018, 07:53:38 AM
Derrick Rose dropped 31 points and hit a career high seven three-pointers. I still cringe to that fact that he apparently didn’t know what “consent” means. However, this is one of my low key most intriguing stories of the season. Everyone thought he was washed, but he’s been putting up some decent games. He’s never be MVP Rose again though he’s showing he has something left in the tank.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 08, 2018, 09:08:17 AM
He's angling for a back-up/replacement All-Star Rose though.

He was soooo close to a game winner 3 too.
Lebron should be ashamed. If it wasn't for Tyson Chandler, Lakers take another L.

Laker MVP McGee has to be sweating a little rn.


tonights game to watch is now Warriors vs Bucks
should be a really fun one to watch for at least 3+ quarters.

and I was just listening to NBA Radio, and they brought up the All-Star game.....
Top Vote getter in the West vs Top Vote getter in the East as team leads
and how the All-Star team picking will be Televised this year.

They bring up how Kawhi might get a Team Capt. role.... and what that would mean for TV Drama (or lack thereof, due to lack of outward personality)

They also brought up how they feel like Lebron may not be expecting to win, because he understands that the Wild West is Warrior Country, so it'll likely be Curry or Durant battling for Team Capt. duties.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on November 08, 2018, 07:12:51 PM
The Rockets are getting worked. Defensive coordinator, Jeff Bzdelik, returns after Thanksgiving. They need him.

The Celtics are down by 20 points at halftime...................... to the Suns.

I didn’t realize Bucks vs. Warriors is in Oakland tonight. Yeah, Warriors are totally winning that game. Semi-related, I recently saw the Warriors logo from 1997 to 2010 for the first time in a while. Yikes, that logo is trash. Really glad they went back to using the Bay Bridge. It’s a nice, simple logo. I like it.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 08, 2018, 11:26:25 PM
Warriors got ran out they own building tonight....

Curry and Durant were both trash tonight.
Draymond was out on injury, and he was very missed for this game.
McKinney was shooting poorly
and the Refs were the Bucks 6th man from early on in this one.... even later on when the Bucks were up by 20something the whistle just kept blowing for trivial BS against the Dubs.
Sucked the momentum out the game right from the get-go. Got Curry in foul trouble early in the 1st quarter, and wouldn't let the game flow. Dubs seemed to never really get into a rhythm after that....

Curry even left with a minor groin strain in the 3rd.... hopefully he comes back full strength game after next. Along w/ Dray and Livingston.

But as they say.... on to the next one.
We had a bad game, the Bucks had a pretty good game
and the Refs were disrupting the flow of the game, mostly to the favor of the Bucks.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on November 09, 2018, 04:55:04 AM
Good thing I’m not a betting man. Sheesh.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on November 10, 2018, 09:29:21 PM
Can't wait for Jimmy Butler to completely destroy whatever is left of Markelle Fultz's sense of worth.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 12, 2018, 04:42:07 PM
I thought i posted something regarding Butler and Fultz earlier.... i must've never hit send :/
I'll edit it in later when i get home, but for now, Warriors Fundraising @ Oracle

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How badly do Golden State Warriors fans want to just get into the building for a home game?

We'll soon find out. The team sent an email to its fans on Monday offering a monthly "In The Building Pass." The pass simply gets a fan into the team's Oracle Arena for every home game for $100 a month.

The mobile pass does not include a seat, and with no access to the seating bowl, doesn't even include a view of the court itself. The team says fans who purchase the pass will have access to the arena's bars and restaurants and can watch on the televisions in the club areas.
4-5 All-star Roster is getting a little expensive.... selling seats at the bar and concession stands in the building now.
And i bet it sells out.  LOL
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on November 12, 2018, 04:59:41 PM
No view of the court? That's just an expensive cover charge. Still might be worth it, if you get the free t-shirts they give out during the playoffs.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Shaymin on November 12, 2018, 05:02:17 PM
And so the best team in basketball takes clues from one of hockey's biggest tire fires. (https://oilersnation.com/2017/04/12/oilers-to-offer-80-concourse-pass-for-playoffs/)

Although given that it's US$100 and for REGULAR SEASON games, I'd say Golden State said "hold my beer".
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 12, 2018, 07:41:55 PM
(here is the post I never hit send on earlier.....)
Can't wait for Jimmy Butler to completely destroy whatever is left of Markelle Fultz's sense of worth.

(https://i.imgur.com/A6rN5Dm.png)

Or somehow Butler gets Fultz to get over his "yips" and actually start playing like why he was drafted in the first place.

Gonna be interesting either way.
But they did give up shooters to get Butler on the squad. The could probably use another shooter like Korver, should the Cavs release him like they said they would when they signed him up.

Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 12, 2018, 07:46:35 PM
No view of the court? That's just an expensive cover charge. Still might be worth it, if you get the free t-shirts they give out during the playoffs.
And so the best team in basketball takes clues from one of hockey's biggest tire fires. (https://oilersnation.com/2017/04/12/oilers-to-offer-80-concourse-pass-for-playoffs/)

Although given that it's US$100 and for REGULAR SEASON games, I'd say Golden State said "hold my beer".

As pointed out, it's unlimited home games for the month and only for REGULAR SEASON games.
I imagine if regular season goes well.... $300 Playoff pass? $750 Finals pass?

Gonna need every scent to pay Klay's "Luxury Tax" resigning over the summer.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on November 12, 2018, 07:48:15 PM
II really hate the NBA Scheduler sometimes. The Jazz faced the Grizzlies for the 3rd time tonight on the road, and this time they finally came away with a win. Sheesh.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 12, 2018, 08:21:14 PM
II really hate the NBA Scheduler sometimes. The Jazz faced the Grizzlies for the 3rd time tonight on the road, and this time they finally came away with a win. Sheesh.
Barely 1 month in? Already faced a single team 3x? it's game 12-14 for everyone...

On the other hand, Caris Levert from the Nets broke his ankle tonight.
Not quite as graphic as Hayward in Gm1 last year, but you'll see him roll his ankle with his foot to the inside... it never straightened out again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGCYBZqZ0uw
slo-mo replay at about the :26 second mark.

edit: speaking of Fultz earlier.... WTF is wrong with this cat?
I'm hearing it's mental, but he supposedly don't work with his shooting coach anymore since weeks ago, and now his shot seems to have regressed?

check his free throw shot....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7DeaV0Osrs

and then here he has a wierd "twitch"?
https://twitter.com/Dcorrigan50/status/1061771931173732354
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on November 13, 2018, 08:34:08 AM
The Lakers are about to play the Blazers for the third time tomorrow night. It’ll be their 14th game of the season. They won’t play the Blazers again until the last game of the year.

I have a hard time watching videos of players getting injured. I think the last one I saw was Kris Dunn landing on his face last year. I try to avoid seeing that stuff.

No idea what’s going on with Markelle Fultz. I feel bad because he was such a good prospect. How does someone just forget how to shoot?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 13, 2018, 11:45:28 AM
Fultz has to be more than just a mental thing.... shooting should be like riding a bike. It's a muscle memory motion. Your shot may not be pretty, but it's yours. Fultz has to have some sort of nerve disorder or something preventing him from doing a normal motion without concentrating on it.

There is something really wrong here, and I think he needs to take time to find real actual unbiased help. Or maybe Jimmy Buckets slaps him straight again. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.


and I dont' know how legit this is, but D. Rose may have that hoodoo voodoo doll magic this season. He's been on the court during some of the last few bad injuries.
He was on the court during Hayward and LeVert and there was another one I can't remember of the top of my head. and then all of sudden, he's having a "All-Star" reserve quality season, hitting some personal best in points and 3ptrs.
I see you D. Rose.
better keep that **** away from the Dubs.


and I can't not comment on last night....
WTF is you doing Dray!!!?
Give KD the ball in a tie game situation with 5 seconds on the clock and not planning to call a timeout. why would you dribble it out, fumble the ball and turn it over sending us into OT w/o even getting a shot off!?
You literally sniped the rebound from KD who was standing right there, and then did nothing of value. Why....!?

can't wait till Curry comes back on Thursday.
Warriors just aint the same w/o Curry on the court. His Gravitation Force is sorely missed, even if he isn't scoring.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on November 13, 2018, 03:38:26 PM
The Warriors suspended Green for one game due to “conduct detrimental to the team” AKA arguing with Kevin Durant when he’s a free agent next summer.

After the loss, the entire team was probably like, “Srsly, bruh,” and Draymond gonna Draymond so he argued back.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 13, 2018, 10:20:11 PM
The Warriors suspended Green for one game due to “conduct detrimental to the team” AKA arguing with Kevin Durant when he’s a free agent next summer.

After the loss, the entire team was probably like, “Srsly, bruh,” and Draymond gonna Draymond so he argued back.

Unnecessary #DRAMA and very bad form on Draymond.
If you gonna put some bullshit like that on display, cost us a game, and a potential championship, 1 month into the season.... it's gonna cost you something too.

$125k lost (aka not made tonight) for being suspended for a game.

This **** wouldn't've (can I double compound? lol) happened if Curry was on the court.
I don't know why Dray started acting like selfish punk, but he crossed a line by not only making it public, but making it personal.
Ownership got the whole rest of the season to think about, upcoming contracts, free-agency, and a brand new super expensive stadium almost completed in SF.
We aint got time to stop the money train right because Dray gotta get all up in his feelings and now Durant want to be all sensitive.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on November 14, 2018, 07:19:35 AM
Draymond Green Accused Kevin Durant Of Making Season About His Free Agency (https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/251644/Draymond-Green-Accused-Kevin-Durant-Of-Making-Season-About-His-Free-Agency)
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Green then accused Durant of making the whole season about him even though he might leave in free agency in 2019. Green aired his frustrations with how Durant has kept his free agency story alive throughout the season.

Green also called Durant a "bitch" multiple times, which is what prompted management to take action.
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“With what was said, there is already no way Durant is coming back,” one player said. “The only hope is that they can say this summer, ‘See, KD. We’ve got your back. We protected you from Draymond.’ ”
****, I was just joking about the free agency thing earlier. Apparently, that was right on the money. When I try to make serious analysis, I’m way off. I’m bad at basketball hot takes.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on November 14, 2018, 10:10:16 AM
Draymond is (rightfully) worried because he's the 4th guy in that team, with a skill-set that doesn't age well given his body. He'll be 29 years old this summer and looking at a pretty big (and long) contract. GS will do everything in their power to keep Durant and Klay first and foremost, and given that Klay seems like the dude most willing to take a paycut to keep the group together it makes perfect sense for this season to be about Durant's free agency. Everyone knows it.

It sucks for Draymond, but does he really want to sabotage the season for that?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 14, 2018, 12:17:56 PM
It's sad to see even a crack in the Golden State Dynasty, but it's even worse that it's a crack from the inside.

Dray needs to play better at the long game. Durant isn't making this about his Free-Agency. He hasn't said anything publicly about it from what I've seen. He's been signing 1and1's for freedom of contract negotiations to keep making the numbers work.

We all know Klay don't want to go nowhere. His dad already talked to him about the blessing of a situation he has found himself in and how no few extra millions a year is ever gonna be enough to walk away from a situation this good while it's this good. It's not fun getting paid more on a losing team, especially when you already know what you're missing. GSW right now is History in the making. For Dray to blow up about that ****, and publicly, especially when he was being scolded by a fellow player for a bad call (as he himself would do to every other player, coach, staff, etc etc), and then respond about making it a personal beef is just sad.
Can dish it but can't take it, and then had to go personal because he knew he fucked up.

Dray is known for making plays, but in that situation, tie game, 5 seconds left in regulation, you aren't looking for a hot pass, you are looking for the main scorer (or 2) to have the ball and create a shot. Or at the very least someone to get off a damn shot.
Now had Dray actually managed to make a pass, with 1 second on the clock.... and Looney had had to get it off on time.... and it happen to actually go in... then none of this matters, but that's not what happened.
Dray was in the wrong, and 10 out of 10 times, in that specific situation, the ball should have gone directly into Durants hands.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 14, 2018, 01:03:29 PM
I'm just going to say I am pleased that the Lakers are above 500 for the first time in 2 years. On the defensive side things have been improving and things are even better with Chandler providing rebounding and defensive presence.  Rebounding was one of the areas where the Lakers needed help and get out their fast break offense. Also JaVale can run a bit and with his help defense and his blocks it helps things. Pace is very solid but they need to improve their half court sets on offense a bit.  I will say that Lakers are 3-0 since signing Chandler. He might have been the missing piece.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 27, 2018, 10:58:42 PM
Harden making the record book list with another impressive Triple Double in a LOSS to the Wizards
his 10th 50+ point game put him on this list, but his statline of 54pts, 13 Ast, 11 TO is NOT the triple double you're trying to have.

(https://i.imgur.com/AFotM8H.png)

and my Wounded Warriors gotta face the Raps on Thursday... I hope at least Draymond is back.
We can't lose this one.... especially in a blow out.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on November 28, 2018, 06:34:49 AM
I’m shocked Kareem Abdul-Jabbar only has 10 considering he’s the all-time leading scorer.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on November 29, 2018, 05:20:48 AM
The Jazz have traded Alec Burks & 2 second round draft picks to get Kyle Korver back.

Good. This season has been abysmal so far.

https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/28/18117006/kyle-korver-utah-jazz-cleveland-cavaliers (https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/28/18117006/kyle-korver-utah-jazz-cleveland-cavaliers)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 30, 2018, 10:17:35 AM
The Wounded Warriors almost snuck out a win on Toronto last night, and to me that is a victory, even if an L in th season record box.

We didn't have Draymond, who would have made a couple extra defensive stops that would've been the difference maker.

Not to mention Curry, who always has good games in Toronto.
Talk show host want to pump "Preview of the Finals!? Toronto better hope not, because if KD could drop 51, and Klay could still get his, and just imagine if Curry was in place of all the missed or not taken Jerebko shots.... or if Draymond was in place of Damian Jones. It would have a been very different outcome to this game, and OT was not even in question.

Although the East should be quite exciting to watch this year.

Bucks and Raptors in the ECF?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 08, 2018, 07:14:09 PM
Early pick for Rookie of the Year: Doncic on the Mavs.

I think it's is by far and away this Euro League rookie. Barring some historic wall hitting or terrible injury, I don't see any other rookie coming close.
He just schooled rockets almost single handedly by scoring 11 in a row (3 from distance) late in the 4th to give the Mavs a 5 point lead, and ultimately leading to a 3 point win.

This kid is hitting big shots repeatedly, consistently, and without hesitation.
Mavs may be playoff bound this year (Can't say the same for Houston rn :/)


Early pick for MVP: Steph Curry
His last game wasn't that hot, but he's still real close to avg 50/50/90 right now
actually, looking up the stats, over 16 games, he is at 51/50/93 and averaging 29.6 points per game
The Warriors (18-9) have a record of 13-3 when Steph was on the floor, and we all know they win 4-5+ of those losses had he actually been playing.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on December 10, 2018, 10:28:55 AM
Steph Curry isn’t allowed any more MVP awards until he admits the moon landing happened. It’s weird that’s even a thing I typed.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 10, 2018, 02:43:29 PM
Steph Curry isn’t allowed any more MVP awards until he admits the moon landing happened. It’s weird that’s even a thing I typed.

I saw that today... I'm gonna have to give him a 1- time pass on this one. I know theirs some controversy over the validity of the original moon landing footage,  and it is kinda suspicious that we haven't really been back since.

 But i gotta chalk that up to it being very expensive, and no real urgent benefit to going back without a larger goal in mind and the tech to support it.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on December 10, 2018, 03:54:20 PM
Gonna just drop this here:


For BnM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPj60sy9Cfw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPj60sy9Cfw)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 10, 2018, 06:08:30 PM
for the record, I'm not a doubter. I just understand some of the reasons why some people may doubt it.

and it still doesn't explain why we haven't really been back, but I'm leaving that up to technological limits for extended stay, cost and actual purpose of being there (mining, setting up a base, transport of goods/equipment to and from).

I feel that technologically, we are very close to making an actual Moon Base, mine, and launching pad a reality.

but back on topic, I just bought tix to the Warriors Raptors game on Wednesday, so I'll try and talk some sense into Curry in person, face to face, man to man.

It's my 1st game this season, and the 1st game I'll take my lil me to as well.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on December 10, 2018, 06:34:09 PM
He deserves to be ruthlessly mocked the same way Kyrie Irving was for being a flat earther. Ungodly talent isn't an excuse for being ignorant.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 10, 2018, 06:42:10 PM
Well.... the video and pics are questionable, regardless of the "proof" and recreative evidence provided.

Not to say that we haven't actually been there, just that the initial video stream of the event certainly does look questionable depending on which glasses you choose to view it through.

Saying the earth is flat though.... I believe that's 2 whole different levels of ignorant.
Kyrie's flown around the world. He has undeniable evidence provided through his own eyes, and yet the truth still escapes him.

How many people do we know that has flown around the world? sailed around the world?
how many have fallen off or fell into... space!?

on the other hand... who do we know that's actually been to the moon? or personally knows someone who knows someone with first hand evidence of actually being on the moon?

Not to say it didn't happen, just pointing out that the skepticism is on 2 very different levels of ::jackiechanwhut::
For one, we have easily provable evidence that can be experienced by any and everyone with ease.
the other... well, we just gotta take their word that it happened when and the way we saw, and then believe the science that regardless of how possible it was, the original video was legit.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 11, 2018, 04:22:45 PM
THE REAL REASON CURRY SAID HE DOUBTED THE MOON LANDING
hint: it was all a rouse

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25508943/nasa-offers-show-proof-moon-landing-golden-state-warriors-star-stephen-curry?platform=amp

Hee just got himself, his family and the team(?) a 1st hand VIP tour of the NASA facility next time they in Houston.
Clever clever Curry /s?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on December 11, 2018, 05:19:47 PM
Clever bastard.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 15, 2018, 03:45:15 PM
Just found this funny, so thought I would share.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDkVztmkcQM

anyone watch that Warriors game last night vs Sacramento Kings?

I think it would be fun if all 4 Cali teams could make the playoff this year.
This Kings team plays really fast, and was very fun to watch.
the rookie ref (3rd ref) almost fucked this game up, but Jordan Bell needs to get his **** together as well (he just annoys me). He often looks lost and almost always goes up soft. Gotta stop chillin' with Klay in the hotbox before the game.
Dubs pull out a crazy win with lockdown defense in the last 3 minutes to come back from being 10pts down (after initially being up 16pts) and win by 5, but damn it was a good game.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on December 15, 2018, 08:58:13 PM
That Pelicans one kinda hurt.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 24, 2018, 11:00:04 AM
I'm a little disappointed I missed the Dubs vs Mavs game on Saturday, as I was curious how Luka would perform. The kid is gonna be good in the near future.

I also missed the Mavs v Blazers game, but damn Luka. this kid is Cutch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F2XO78Qr60

corner 3 at the buzzer to force OT.
they didn't win, but if it weren't for Luka, Mavs wouldn't be in many conversations this year at all.

and at current standings, the only team in the West that is not competing for a Playoff Position at this point, is the Suns. Everyone else has a change at making Top 8 at this point.
Comparatively, in the East, the bottom 4 (or 5...) are not likely gonna find themselves in a position to push for a playoff spot based on current standings.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 25, 2018, 04:04:33 PM
New Game of Zones today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdr_lE0nzWE
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on January 07, 2019, 06:58:38 PM
Cleveland being shady AF

https://deadspin.com/the-patrick-mccaw-holdout-saga-keeps-getting-weirder-1831559301

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It seems like Cleveland pretty clearly signed McCaw to a deal they knew the Warriors wouldn’t match simply to cut him and get him out of restricted free agency.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 09, 2019, 04:27:13 PM
Coming Soon..... Jan 18th v the Clippers
(https://s3-us-east-2.amazonaws.com/gruelingtruth-cdn/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/warriors-hp-graphic.jpg)

If DMC is even 80% his usual self.... league on notice.
If Klay continues playing like he has the last few games.... (43pts on 4 dribbles last night) grab your raincoats.
If Dray stay productive with pts in the paint and occasionally from the 3, the Dubs are back baby.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on January 09, 2019, 06:29:13 PM
LMAO, that team is so stacked. Multiple all-NBA appearance for each of those five. And a number of all-star appearances I don't feel like counting.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 09, 2019, 08:52:13 PM
#ruinthegame

3peat in the making (I'm really hoping they pull this off)

if they win again this year (assuming everyone stays healthy, it's theirs to lose, but ::knock on wood:: just in case) the off season is going to be VERY VERY INTERESTING.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 19, 2019, 01:27:16 PM
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1086341294350368768

DMC: Resurrection as a Warrior
14 points (3/4 from 3), 6 rebounds, 3 rebounds, 2 steals (and 6 fouls) in 15 min

Great opening effort.
In his defense, the refs were out of fucking control with the fouls.
There were 4 Techs in the 1st half.
Draymond had 2, and stayed in the game (2nd was for full speed power dunk swinging pullup combo)
Durant got one for screaming "And 1" toward the ref
it really sucked the flow out the game in the 1st quarter... calls on both sides. Refs were over doing it.

But if this was the Boogie come back game, where the Dubs could barely buy a 3, yet still shut down the Clips, the rest of the season is gonna be FUN*

*for Warrior fans. LOL
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 20, 2019, 03:47:29 PM
From the Laker game last night.

They were putting a hurting to The Harden Rockets, and then Lonzo sprained his own ankle.
Harden brought it back to OT and the KCP decides that he didn't really want the Lakers to have a change to win last night.....

Down 1, about 8 seconds difference between shot and game clock. 18 seconds on the shot, 24 seconds left in the game. You want to wind down the clock as much as you can, but more importantly.... YOU NEED TO SCORE!!

So with KCP being 0/6 from 3 for the night, this ofcourse seems like the best basketball play to make... https://streamable.com/bvaub

WTF is you doing man?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 21, 2019, 10:10:19 PM
Klay Thompson with the 🔥HEAT CHECK🔥 tonight.

10 for his first 10 from 3pt Land💦

The Toaster is back with a NEW NBA RECORD!! 👌💯

now how long before Steph Curry comes and breaks these records that he's going out of his way to help Klay set? ....and people think Klay is gonna leave the Warriors in the off-season. LMAO
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 22, 2019, 12:14:15 AM
Since tonight is a night of LAUGHS (look for the Curry Slip and airball #Shaqtin entry for the night. OMG LMAO) and Celebration (see above post), I thought I would share this tweet too, since it also made me laugh.

(https://i.imgur.com/k4ydkzT.png)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on January 22, 2019, 06:41:53 AM
I didn’t watch the game last night because I was expecting a drubbing with James, Ball, and Rondo out. It would’ve been nice to see Thompson go off. To The Youtube, I guess.

Thompson isn’t leaving the Warriors. I expect Durant to. We’ll see in a little over five months how cold these takes are.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 22, 2019, 04:16:35 PM
I'm thinking of they Win again (and it's looking good that they might. Lol) Durant well try to stay, but that puts Dray out of contention for Max Money.
Klay will likely also take a discount to keep it together (Max -5+%) one more year.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on January 22, 2019, 04:34:02 PM
Part of me wishes the Warriors would somehow (for some reason) pick up Melo.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 22, 2019, 04:43:01 PM
Oh hello no.
I'm sure it's be nice to get him a ring, but he needs to go play with Bron in LA.
We don't need that anchor.... Unless that's the point, handicap us to give everyone else a way to win a few games.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on January 23, 2019, 06:49:17 AM
I expect the Warriors to be champs again which is why I also expect Durant to leave. He has nothing to prove as the best player of a three-peat. Not a knock on Curry; Durant is just a more complete player. If the Warriors lose, there’s a narrative for him staying.

Durant cares about his narrative and legacy. And the whole thing with Draymond Green definitely didn’t help things despite both acting like it’s water under the bridge. Durant is notoriously petty and thin-skinned what with his burner accounts and inability to just laugh off jokes at his expense like the “You the real MVP” meme, unwittingly causing it to be even bigger. Durant took a lot of **** for joining a 73-win team. For someone who cares so much about how people and history view him, I can see Durant going to a storied franchise that has struggled for a long time like the Knicks or Lakers. He wasn’t the missing piece in Golden State; they already won without him. Winning on a troubled franchise would cement his place in history. I imagine most people already believe Durant’s place as one of the best players in history is set. I don’t think Durant thinks it is. He still thinks he’s the not-Michael Jordan of his generation, something he desperately wants to change.

The problem is that he probably wouldn’t win a title in either situation. Not saying he goes to either Knicks or Lakers, but for what it seems like he wants, it makes sense.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 24, 2019, 11:09:21 PM
Warriors were in D.C. today to play the Wiz - Durant's hometown.

Looks like they visited a certain #44 for the 3rd time now. LOL
after 1st Championship 2014/15 - after 3rd Ring 2017/18 & again Today
https://www.sfchronicle.com/warriors/article/Instead-of-visiting-White-House-during-DC-trip-13560083.php?__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Shaymin on January 25, 2019, 08:27:00 PM
Seems like the most appropriate place to ask: Is there a memeable version of the NBA Trade Machine that ESPN runs where I can put anything into it? Like, say, trade the owner of the Warriors to MLSE for the Canadian telco duopoly.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on January 28, 2019, 05:41:22 AM
Anthony Davis won't sign a contract extension and has requested a trade (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25868546/anthony-davis-told-new-orleans-pelicans-re-sign)

It’s important to note the Celtics, the team with the best/most assets, are ineligible to trade for Davis until July 1 this summer due to Kyrie Irving’s Designated Player contract. A team cannot have two Designated Players acquired via trade. Irving would have to be traded first or Davis would have to be traded for Irving. It’s doubtful the Pelicans would go for the latter as that should be a non-starter since Irving is a free agent and would likely leave this summer. Perhaps they would consider it depending on the other assets Boston could potentially package.

Fire up the ol’ trade machine. It’s going to be a wild trade deadline this year.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 28, 2019, 08:23:25 AM
This will be interesting...

Teams not likely to get AD this season:
Warriors (no money) - definitely out of the question (but I would've said that about Cousins before it happened too.... :/)
Celtics (as stated above - Designated Player Contract - gotta wait till summer)

Who is likely to go HARD for AD right now?
Lakers - it was stated they are willing to trade: Ingram, Ball, and Kuzma. Lebron also wants Luke fired as coach, and has been not so secretly mending fences with Kyrie for a hopeful off-season free-agent pick up.

IF the Lakers can pull off a trade for Davis, and then pick up Kyrie in the off season...
and the Warriors lose not only Cousins, but possibly Durant, there will certainly be a mix up in the West next year.

Now my question is, what contending teams in the East have something to trade for AD?
Raptors? - if the Raps can put together something, that's a helluva pitch to keep Kawhi long term.
Bucks?
Sixers?
Nets? Yes, I said the Nets.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on January 28, 2019, 09:24:35 AM
The Pelicans don’t have to trade Davis just because he requested one. It depends on how much of a headache they feel like dealing with. If they have the nerve, the best course would be to wait until the Celtics are eligible and try to pry Jason Tatum away. Most deals available now will be available this summer, including and especially the Lakers young core which I keep seeing in trade proposals.

Right now, the Lakers can play chicken with the Pelicans. The Lakers think they can get Kevin Durant. Ideally, that’s what they want anyway: sign Durant then use their young players to trade for another star player. If the Lakers want Davis now, I’d only give up Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, some draft picks, and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope to make the numbers work. I’d hold onto Kyle Kuzma for the trade deadline but include him during the summer.

The Pelicans will want a king’s ransom for Davis. I don’t think they’ll get it. Conparatively, the Spurs did okay in the Kawhi Leonard trade. DeMar DeRozan is a nice player. He’s no Leonard, who I actually think is better than Davis. There are injury concerns for both players.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on January 28, 2019, 09:25:27 PM
The Pelicans are totally going to botch the AD trade and I can't wait for the to move to Seattle in 5 years.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on January 28, 2019, 09:34:28 PM
The Pelicans are totally going to botch the AD trade and I can't wait for the to move to Seattle in 5 years.

Pfft. It's not like New Orleans has a history of being a good basketball city. Wouldn't be the first time one of their teams had moved on to better pastures.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 29, 2019, 03:21:50 AM
Nawlins has had a bad week,

LA has taken the Superbowl from them
and AD has taken the Pels ftom them
in the same week...

Good thing Mardi Gras is coming up next month.
Should take their mind off it.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on January 30, 2019, 07:37:49 AM
The NBA owes us for the botched Chris Paul trade, so I'm hopeful some magic will happen.  But AD wanting out was pretty expected.  The team seemed completely incapable of building around him.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on January 30, 2019, 05:26:55 PM
https://twitter.com/_Andrew_Lopez/status/1090778882754691073

New Orleans is being extra petty about this. I hope they get nothing.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 30, 2019, 06:01:23 PM
Does that mean they plan on trading him before the deadline?
I know they've been bombarded with offers nonstop.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on January 31, 2019, 05:23:01 AM
https://twitter.com/_Andrew_Lopez/status/1090778882754691073

New Orleans is being extra petty about this. I hope they get nothing.

If they get nothing, then entitled babies like Anthony Davis get nothing either, and I'm OK with that.

Seriously, he publicly went out & demanded a trade to a better team/city, essentially giving a middle finger to the Pelicans. I hope he gets nothing.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on January 31, 2019, 06:45:39 AM
Pelicans management did jack with six years of having one of the best players in the NBA. Anthony Davis could have kept quiet, played out his contract, and fucked off next summer. The Pelicans at least have a chance to get some assets.

If Davis leaves in free agency, he’s a traitor. If he requests a trade, he’s an entitled baby. No wonder these guys almost always try to get ahead of it and leave a bad situation early. It’s lose-lose because people think these players owe others more than they owe themselves.

The only time fans are thankful for and loyal to a former player is via retirement or if the player leaves on the team’s terms via trade or release. When a player involuntarily leaves a team, nobody bats an eye because “it’s business.” Yet, for some reason, the same doesn’t apply to when players want to go to a better situation.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on January 31, 2019, 10:55:35 AM
Apparently, the Pelicans aren't answering calls from the Lakers right now.  Which, I guess?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on January 31, 2019, 12:10:40 PM
Pelicans Vice President and General Manager Dell Demps isn’t answering, and if that continues, I wouldn’t be surprised is Magic Johnson and Lakers controlling owner and president, Jeanie Buss, just go above him and reach out to Pelicans owner, Gayle Benson, directly. Anthony Davis may just do that himself.

In early January, Benson told The Athletic, “I really like Anthony, but if he wants to leave, you can’t hold him back.” Add that to the fact that she apparently cares more about the Saints than the Pelicans, and she may just force Demps to make a deal before the deadline. Doesn’t have to be with the Lakers, just any team so this isn’t her problem anymore.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on January 31, 2019, 12:42:19 PM
So, AD’s camp is saying that any team that takes him should expect him to walk in 2020, unless you’re the Lakers. Pels are reported as saying AD can go join the Lakers when LeBron is 35, if he wants. Not sure which was first.

But basically, the first statement makes almost any trade deal toxic; although, most expected PG to leave OKC when that trade happened. Lakers seem to have all the leverage, and the Pels seem content to not be bullied, even if it’s only a “victory” in principle.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on January 31, 2019, 02:15:50 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1091076373765124108

Excuse me, what?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on January 31, 2019, 02:35:25 PM
I was just about to post about that. Is that really the best the Knicks could get for Kristaps Porzingis? Or is this another example of Knicks gonna Knick?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 31, 2019, 06:56:00 PM
This is an example of the Knicks clearing enough Cap Space to get 2 new Max Deals in the summer.

Speculation is they may have heads up that 2 big names already want to go there, and are indeed planning on coming.
that same speculation states Durant and Kyrie.

but recently it's been rumored that Kyrie is trying to be Lebron's son again and team up once more time.

but also it's been stated that Klay Thompson may have interest in The Lakers if they can land AD, so if Klay is content to leave (not happening) I see no reason why Durant wouldn't stick around with the Warriors since the money will be there, unless he really wants to go to NY (might be better off on the Nets though. LOL)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on February 01, 2019, 05:23:04 AM
So neither Rudy Golbert nor Donovan Mitchell were selected for the All Star Game. Mitchell's in the Rising Stars game, but I guess I otherwise have no reason to watch All Star weekend yet again.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on February 01, 2019, 06:10:28 AM
This is an example of the Knicks clearing enough Cap Space to get 2 new Max Deals in the summer.
Yeah, I get what the Knicks are trying to do. It’s still a weird risk considering their last two major free agent signings were Amar’e Stoudemire and Joakim Noah. Other than the pipe dream of being responsible for bringing the Knicks back on glory, I don’t know why any superstar free agent would consider the Knicks.

The Lakers are linked to everyone. I typically just ignore the noise unless it comes from someone like Adrian Wojnarowski.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on February 01, 2019, 09:09:11 AM
Two things:

1. ESPN’s Ian Begley asked Kyrie Irving if he still intends to re-sign with the Celtics. Irving replies, “Ask me July 1.” Then, he told Barbara Barker of Newsday, “At the end of the day I'm going to do what’s best for me and my career. I don’t owe anybody ****.” This is a far cry from telling fans in October, “If you guys will have me back, I plan on re-signing here.”

2. According to Shams Charania of The Athletic, “The Boston Celtics aren't a preferred destination long-term for New Orleans star Anthony Davis, and in Davis’ mind, remain a rental option.”

The Celtics’ entire plan was to trade the farm this summer for Anthony Davis with the intention of pairing him with Kyrie Irving. Take the Celtics offer off the table, and the Pelicans lose major leverage against the Lakers.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on February 01, 2019, 11:18:16 AM
This is an example of the Knicks clearing enough Cap Space to get 2 new Max Deals in the summer.

Speculation is they may have heads up that 2 big names already want to go there, and are indeed planning on coming.
that same speculation states Durant and Kyrie.

My question in all of this is simple.

People have seen what the Knicks Front Office has done the last decade. Knowing that, why would you join them?

EDIT: Or the Knicks are just straight up tampering and already know KD is going to sign with them. Literally the only way this trade makes any sense.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on February 01, 2019, 01:37:30 PM
If they think they can pull two stars, then good for them.  I hope they do.  But Knicks are gonna Knick for a while.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Shaymin on February 01, 2019, 03:47:44 PM
The Knicks are basically the Toronto Maple Leafs with more incompetent ownership.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 01, 2019, 05:45:00 PM
This is an example of the Knicks clearing enough Cap Space to get 2 new Max Deals in the summer.


Speculation is they may have heads up that 2 big names already want to go there, and are indeed planning on coming.
that same speculation states Durant and Kyrie.

My question in all of this is simple.

People have seen what the Knicks Front Office has done the last decade. Knowing that, why would you join them?

EDIT: Or the Knicks are just straight up tampering and already know KD is going to sign with them. Literally the only way this trade makes any sense.

That's the speculation.
Should they both announce, I'm sure there will be an investigation of some sort.

Durant already quiet on his future plans, although he seems to have made up with Dray and the Dubs and genuinely seems to be happy.

Kyrie already stating to ask him on July 1st....

neither of them seem particularly committed to the current situations. Kyrie less so than Durant

But then again.... the Knicks will be the Knicks, so what Tier 2 or 3 level stars are they gonna overpay when they didn't get the names everyone has been predicting would go there?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on February 01, 2019, 08:23:38 PM
#Defense.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyX5IhpXcAE2C-u.jpg:large)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 02, 2019, 05:32:07 AM
With so much drama in the NBA
everyone forgot about Superbowl Sunday
somehow, someway, players in the NBA
come up with on and off the court as drama, every.single.day

Anthony Davis' dad on a potential trade to Boston....
(https://i.redd.it/dacuy7p4q1e21.jpg)


Rudy Gobert gets all emotional on camera about NOT getting an All-Star selection regardless of stats for the season....
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1091406136182484993

Rudy Gobert Stats.... https://i.imgur.com/I9ClPHv.jpg


So Draymond and IT both make harsh comments on it
(https://i.imgur.com/gmTY3F0.png)*

(https://i.imgur.com/z91SFlL.png)

*except Dray probably should cry, as his play not being good enough for AS, or DPOY may also cost him All NBA, which means he may not be eligible for that SUPERMAX he was hoping for (not that he was gonna get it)

and then to pour even more salt in Gobert's open wound, D'Angelo Russel makes All-Star Reserve due to Oladipo injury
(https://i.imgur.com/UMLFpfF.png)

D'Angelo Russel
(https://i.imgur.com/UMLFpfF.png)


and all that follows up the AD demanding a Trade, preferably to LA
and the Knicks suddenly pulling off a trade for Porzingis w/ the Mavs in about 5 minutes and almost totally under the radar.
Everyone suspects some sort of tampering to make that deal make any sense.... (KD & Kyrie already agreeing to make the move) especially after they last time they did this almost exact same scenario 9(?) years ago.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on February 05, 2019, 01:05:45 PM
John Wall's Achilles just exploded when he slipped in his house.

His supermax contract begins next season.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ThePerm on February 05, 2019, 02:04:39 PM
So, I haven't payed attention to NBA since 2006-2007. I'm a fair weather Suns fan. What teams are good now? I know the Golden State Warriors are good, the clippers were good, but who's worth paying attention to now?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on February 05, 2019, 04:17:37 PM
That’s pretty much it.

That James kid from Ohio is having a solid career though.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on February 05, 2019, 09:21:56 PM
The Lakers are purposely sabotaging their season giving away all their players and two first round picks to NOLA and Dell Demps is acting like an idiot asking for 6-8 draft picks.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on February 06, 2019, 05:23:35 AM
The Lakers reportedly pulled out of trade negotiations with the Pelicans. Pulling out of trade negotiations is apparently part of trade negotiations as the Lakers are awaiting a counteroffer apart from the Pelicans asking for eight draft picks. Danny Ainge also requested the Pelicans wait for their offer this summer. Why anyone would even consider dealing with Ainge after he fleeced two franchises is beyond me. The whole thing is a clusterfuck. I’m glad the Lakers didn’t trade everyone (so far). Whichever team ends up with Anthony Davis is going to win that trade. The sooner the Pelicans admit that to themselves the better.

In other news, the Sixers landed Tobias Harris, Boban Marjanovic, and Mike Scott from the Clippers in exchange for Wilson Chandler, Landry Shamet, Mike Muscala, Philadelphia’s 2020 first-round pick, Miami’s unprotected 2021 first-round pick, and two second-round picks. Both teams make out pretty well here. The Clippers probably weren’t keeping Harris if they’re trying to sign two max free agents this summer. The Sixers improve their roster to make a run at a title this year.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on February 06, 2019, 05:35:56 PM
Danny Ainge also requested the Pelicans wait for their offer this summer. Why anyone would even consider dealing with Ainge after he fleeced two franchises is beyond me.

Also, players saw what they did to Isaiah Thomas. Ainge is delusional if he thinks he's going to get more than a glorified rental from AD.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 06, 2019, 11:00:25 PM
I hadn't realized it, but apparently tonight was the 1st night KD spoke to the press post game since the Porzingis trade. The Press asked him if it was related.... KD wasn't having it.

We all know it's rumored he was moving on to the Knicks with Kyrie, but KD was all up in his feeling tonight on the podium. Probably won't see him address the press post game again till it's contractually obligated to make that appearance again.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on February 07, 2019, 07:57:06 AM
LeBron steaming mad at the way Dallas handled the Harrison Barnes trade.

The concept of players owing any loyalty to their team is dying as we speak. I like it.

EDIT: Also this, https://deadspin.com/report-the-pelicans-invented-a-new-kind-of-tampering-a-1832415741

Like, ok. Great petty move, Dell. People still love LA and will still want to join the Lakers. I get that you want enact some sort of revenge against the franchise but ultimately this looks worse on NOLA and already sabotages was is a non-existent free agent destination.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 07, 2019, 09:06:39 AM
LeBron steaming mad at the way Dallas handled the Harrison Barnes trade.

The concept of players owing any loyalty to their team is dying as we speak. I like it.

They traded the dude mid-game. I wasn't watching, but damn, that's cold. I think he left during the game, shed his jersey and couldn't have been too happy as he left the arena. The only goodt think for him is he could potentially be playoff bound this season on what is a pretty decent and fun to watch team... but what sucks is that NEXT SEASON it's Doncic and Porzingis on the Mavs. The potential.... :/


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EDIT: Also this, https://deadspin.com/report-the-pelicans-invented-a-new-kind-of-tampering-a-1832415741

Like, ok. Great petty move, Dell. People still love LA and will still want to join the Lakers. I get that you want enact some sort of revenge against the franchise but ultimately this looks worse on NOLA and already sabotages was is a non-existent free agent destination.

The Lakers are gonna be devastated till atleast until after the All-Star break. but if they don't get it together, and now, they just might put themselves out of a late playoff contention. And they don't exactly have the easiest schedule going forward.
You see the separation on the bench during the last game. LMAO
Lebron may be wishing he took that Philly spot instead. LOL
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on February 07, 2019, 10:03:16 AM
LeBron James being separated from the team on the bench is hilarious out of context. The players who were sitting there were checking into the game.

If the Lakers don’t get Davis by 3:00 PM, not making the playoffs is for the best. I’d rather get a better draft pick than watch them get dismantled by the Warriors or Nuggets (probably the Warriors). I won’t root against them though.

Anyway, Dell Demps is fucked either way. He might as well get revenge on both the Lakers and Pelicans on his way out the door.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on February 07, 2019, 12:32:49 PM
In the span of 4 days, Nik Stauskas and Wade Baldwin have been packaged together in trades and dealt:

- From Portland
- To Cleveland
- To Houston
- To Indiana
- and finally to free agency because the Pacers are waving them both just hours after giving up a 2nd Round pick for them.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on February 07, 2019, 03:09:08 PM
The Jazz tried to get Mike Conley from the Grizzlies, but it looks like that trade fell through so the Jazz will go yet another trade deadline with basically the same team. At least we got Korver earlier in the year.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on February 07, 2019, 06:05:00 PM
LeBron steaming mad at the way Dallas handled the Harrison Barnes trade.

The concept of players owing any loyalty to their team is dying as we speak. I like it.

They traded the dude mid-game. I wasn't watching, but damn, that's cold. I think he left during the game, shed his jersey and couldn't have been too happy as he left the arena.

LMAO. That's hilarious.

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EDIT: Also this, https://deadspin.com/report-the-pelicans-invented-a-new-kind-of-tampering-a-1832415741

Like, ok. Great petty move, Dell. People still love LA and will still want to join the Lakers. I get that you want enact some sort of revenge against the franchise but ultimately this looks worse on NOLA and already sabotages was is a non-existent free agent destination.

The Lakers are gonna be devastated till atleast until after the All-Star break. but if they don't get it together, and now, they just might put themselves out of a late playoff contention. And they don't exactly have the easiest schedule going forward.
You see the separation on the bench during the last game. LMAO
Lebron may be wishing he took that Philly spot instead. LOL

I think the plan to mess with the Lakers is working.  Lavar Ball was on TV today saying LeBron wouldn't win a title without Lonzo after saying he prefered Lonzo be traded to Phoenix (iirc).  At the very least, their biggest distraction is back in the picture.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on February 07, 2019, 07:40:50 PM
The Lakers just beat the Celtics after being down 18 points in the first half. They set a franchise high for three pointers made (22). So, right now, Demps’ trolling worked for one game.

I wish everyone would stop giving Lavar Ball a platform.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 07, 2019, 09:16:57 PM
The Lakers just beat the Celtics after being down 18 points in the first half. They set a franchise high for three pointers made (22). So, right now, Demps’ trolling worked for one game.

I wish everyone would stop giving Lavar Ball a platform.

They had a 42pt 3rd Qtr.... impressive.
LeBron must've given a helluva pep talk about how he ain't gonna miss the playoffs, even if he gets bounced in the 1st round by the Warriors. LOL
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on February 08, 2019, 05:29:10 AM
Rajon Rondo hitting the game winner in Boston with his son there was pretty cool too.
Link: https://youtu.be/j12ssLXL_rQ
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on February 10, 2019, 11:35:22 AM
For some reason, this play didn't make yesterday's highlight reels, but here's Mitchell passing the ball to Golbert off the backboard for a dunk in yesterday's Jazz-Spurs game:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1094368312593604608 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1094368312593604608)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 10, 2019, 12:48:56 PM
For some reason, this play didn't make yesterday's highlight reels, but here's Mitchell passing the ball to Golbert off the backboard for a dunk in yesterday's Jazz-Spurs game:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1094368312593604608 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1094368312593604608)

Did he get counted for an assist?
It looks like he wasn't attempting to make it considering he didn't throw it like it was supposed to hopefully be close to going in.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on February 10, 2019, 01:15:55 PM
For some reason, this play didn't make yesterday's highlight reels, but here's Mitchell passing the ball to Golbert off the backboard for a dunk in yesterday's Jazz-Spurs game:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1094368312593604608 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1094368312593604608)

Did he get counted for an assist?
It looks like he wasn't attempting to make it considering he didn't throw it like it was supposed to hopefully be close to going in.

I'm pretty sure it was counted as a missed shot, rebound, & dunk despite it being obvious that he wasn't even trying to lay it in.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on February 15, 2019, 09:00:07 AM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1096452173532196864

Was it worth it, Dell?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 15, 2019, 01:59:01 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1096452173532196864

Was it worth it, Dell?

and the fact that AD is hurt again.
It was a lightweight Curse of Team Lebron this year again.

1st Kyrie with the knee sprain (not serious)
then Klay with the finger sprain/dislocation (not that serious)
now AD with the shoulder injury

Pels thinking, damn.... we shoulda traded his injury proned ass and crippled the Lakers for years to come (as they literally would've had to fill their roster with buyouts and G-leaguers)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on February 15, 2019, 02:59:05 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1096452173532196864

Was it worth it, Dell?

and the fact that AD is hurt again.
It was a lightweight Curse of Team Lebron this year again.

1st Kyrie with the knee sprain (not serious)
then Klay with the finger sprain/dislocation (not that serious)
now AD with the shoulder injury

Pels thinking, damn.... we shoulda traded his injury proned ass and crippled the Lakers for years to come (as they literally would've had to fill their roster with buyouts and G-leaguers)

Davis being hurt is on the NBA for forcing the Pelicans to play him, which goes against the NBA's precedent.

From what I hear, Dell's firing has to do with a lot of other things besides the Davis situation.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 17, 2019, 01:29:43 PM
Anyone paying attention to the All-Star Weekend?

I didn't watch USA v World, nor the Celebrity game
but I did check out the Skillz and 3-pt contest before LEGO Movie 2 started (had to finish the 3pt contest on my phone in the theater during the previews.... :/)

Winner of the Skillz contest was actually pretty amusing:
(http://i.imgur.com/og2clc7.gif)

and the 3pt contest was good for a moment
almost thought all the NC Boys were gonna be out in the first round, especially after the awkward Dell Curry and his 2 sons interview at mid court just before the event... basically "Which of your 2 sons do you love the most, and why will Seth never be that child" LMAO, it was so bad.

Luckily, Steph even though not winning, put on a hell of a shooting display to almost win. it was a 1 shot difference for a tie. Had Steph put the Money rack up first, he would've tied or won the match.
It was a good watch though. Seth on the other hand.... at least he wasn't the first eliminated. LOL
The initial interview put all the pressure on him to perform, and in his attempt to step out of his brothers shadow.... disappeared completely. LMAO. poor Seth.

At least the stupid charity bet for his dad shooting 3's before the main event didn't end up costing him too much money. Dell and his "legend" didn't perform either. LOL

I didn't watch the mini-ball segment afterwards, nor the Dunk Contest, but I saw a few highlights from the finals.

edit(p.s. the highlights from the Dunk contest was 1 dunk other than the final dunk that won it all for Diallo from OKC.... didn't seem like a good contest at all)
They really should cap the night off with the 3pt Contest instead. 10 enter the 1st round. Top5 move to the 2nd round. Top 2 in the 3rd and final round.

Anyone care for the All-Star game later today?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on February 22, 2019, 09:59:01 PM
Jazz vs. Thunder was an excellent game. I normally wouldn’t have watched it, but I was rescuing a friend who had unwittingly tagged along his wife’s girls’ night so I’m glad that worked out for both of us. I only saw partway into the third quarter to the end. There were a few times I thought the game was slipping away from either team. Donovan Mitchell almost had it at the end of overtime.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on February 22, 2019, 10:01:53 PM
The playoffs are certainly going to be interesting, at least every Western Conference series that doesn't involve the Warriors. 2-8 right now are pretty much even (despite their records), so it's almost like the playoff seeding doesn't even matter.

I really wish Mitchell would perform like this more often. He has talent, but he only ever seems to bring it out when the Jazz are in desperate situations at the end of games.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 23, 2019, 08:59:56 PM
I just want to say that Boogie Cousins in WASHED.
Kerr can keep starting him in the first and 2nd, but that's it. If he don't get a good start, he needs to work with the 2nd unit. We lost the game because they kept trying to appease Cousins ego by getting him the ball, and he CAN"T.DO.ANYTHING.WITH.IT.

it's hard to watch. he is slow. he has lost a step. he CAN'T JUMP..... just dunk the fucking ball.... WTF is wrong with you, you are standing under the rim. J.U.M.P.

Did you really miss a layup toi start the game, and then lead the way to spotting the Rockets 15 points to start the game..... then you injured Draymond, after almost taking out KD.

Kerr... do what's needed. TRADE THIS MAN.... huh? oh we can't do that? well, then bench this man. we fucking lost to the Rockets w/o James Harden....

come playoffs, he better be "injured".
get his pity ring in the finals, and then move the **** on to whatever meager contract he can get at some other team. Gonna be missing that money NO was gonna offer him, regardless of how much less it was than what he thought he should've been offered. [/rant]

Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on February 24, 2019, 01:02:40 PM
It's one month of play after an Achilles injury. Let's uh...cool our jets here.

Cousins might just be a bad matchup against the Rockets. That being said I'm not ready to attribute all our woes to him.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 25, 2019, 09:04:09 AM
I'll admit in the moment I was probably a little too quick to pull the trigger on that rant

but honestly, he is not part of our current best line-up
he has lost a step and seems to not have much vert left w/o a running start.

maybe it's just too soon and he'll improve more down the line, but they still need to stop forcing him into the lineup when it's clearly not working out for him. Ego's be damned.

Honestly, I hope he gets it together in the next few weeks. We gonna need him in playoff mode soon.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on February 25, 2019, 09:30:55 AM
Too early to call Cousins washed. It typically takes two years to know where a player stands after an Achilles tear, one for it to heal and another to get back to playing shape. This is pretty much why I’ve been saying he isn’t going to move the needle for this team. They were already the best team in the league.

Cousins’ value as a player was his skill, not athleticism. Next year we’ll see what he really has to offer.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on February 25, 2019, 10:46:35 AM
Cousins still has plenty of time to get things going, and as long as force feeding him shots now doesn't disrupt chemistry there is no harm. Golden State is so stacked, it's hard to see anything really disrupting them without a major injury (or two).
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 25, 2019, 07:32:07 PM
I was admittedly reacting in the moment.
Cousins was much better tonight. More like his "early" Warriors run. I can tell he's still in the rebuilding phase, but I was just more upset we didn't crush the Hardenless Harden Rockets. And it was mostly because of Cousins terrible no good very bad game, and our organization is so selfless, they sacrifice games/possessions just to help Boogie get going.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on February 28, 2019, 03:51:32 AM
That Dwyane Wade game winner.
Direct link (https://youtu.be/A9ahQPKqaKI)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 28, 2019, 07:09:42 AM
I was jaw dropped... wasn't even mad tho.

double blocked, and then still managed to get off a hailmary 3 before the buzzer that managed to go in.

Curry not getting off a shot on the previous possession and Durant missing a critical end game free throw could have made the difference.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on February 28, 2019, 06:16:09 PM
So...yeah...

Warriors - 96
Magic - 103

What happened there? The Warriors have been in a bit of a slump lately. Did they think they could just coast their way into the playoffs?

Meanwhile, the Nuggets are looking to (hopefully not) pick off an easy win from the Point Guard-less Jazz tonight and retake the #1 Seed.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 28, 2019, 06:24:29 PM
I didn't watch tonight's game, but they usually have bad shooting nights in early games (pst).

Glancing at the box score, it looks like another bad shooting night for the Dubs.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on February 28, 2019, 10:12:28 PM
Jazz - 111
Nuggets - 104


It took a 22 point night from Kyle Korver, another 24 from Donovan Mitchell (on yet another very inconsistent night), and a miraculous overturning of a Rudy Golbert goaltending call late in the 4th, but the Jazz pulled it off.

Unfortunately, because the Heat didn't do their job, we didn't gain any ground tonight on Seeds 4 & 5, and we'll probably lose this ground when we face the Bucks in a few days. -_-
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 28, 2019, 10:42:14 PM
And like that... the Warriors reclaim the 1 Seed. Mwahahhahahaha!!!!

we needed these last 2 wins though (that we didn't get), as 6 of our upcoming 7 games won't be easy.... but after that, the schedule lightens up quite a but for the majority of what's left in the regular season.

We play Philly, Boston Denver.
get a break with the Suns
then we play Houston, OKC and the Spurs

after that, theres a few games we gotta come out blazing, but they are few and far inbetween.
so Hopefully Durant and everyone has gotten enough rest.... Boogie can rest a bit though, you take it easy there big guy.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on March 02, 2019, 08:34:51 PM
Bucks - 111
Jazz - 115


**** yes! The Jazz were never even supposed to be in this game, and a few minutes into the 4th quarter they certainly weren't (being down 12-15). But they came back to win it behind a 46 point night from Donovan Mitchell and another 23 from Derrick Favors.

Yeah, I know there are a lot of extenuating circumstances behind this win, but the Jazz just had a back-to-back with the Clippers & Nuggets the other night, so I don't care. They just beat the best team in the league.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 03, 2019, 08:46:17 AM
Dubs got a much needed win....

but in a much more"in the moment" story!!!
Lakers in their last 7 games, have 4 of their last 5 losses to the following TANKING teams:
Hawks
Pels
Grizz
Suns

the fucking SUNS.
From a Lebron who claims to have "ACTIVATED PLAYOFF MODE EARLY"
Lakers are NOT making the Playoffs this year.
Lebron will not allow Luke Walton to survive the summer (but his consolation prize will be that he can start shooting Space Jam 2 early). LOL

Gotta be regretting that exit of the East. smh
We tried to tell him the West is too competitive, and the Lakers are bad.
Under .500 won't win you **** in the West, certainly won't get you in the Playoffs.

in other news....

The Spurs are about to fall to the 8th seed today. and just doing a predictive glance at the rest of their schedule vs the rest of the Kings schedule, Kings have an outside shot at sniping the 8th seed

Comparing the Lakers schedule to to the Timberwolves schedule..... The pups may overtake the 10th seed today with a win... they will have a tie record w/ the Lakers, but have beaten the Lakers during both matchups so far this year. I don't see it lasting long, as Minny doesn't exactly have an easy schedule remaining, but the Lakers remaining schedule looks just as rough TBH.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on March 03, 2019, 08:56:20 AM
You know, has anyone ever figured out why the West has always been super-competitive, at least in my lifetime, but the East has always been a dumpster fire ruled by 1-2 teams?

It just seems strange that since at least the 1980s, the top 9-10 Western teams usually have winning records and are in a tight race for the playoffs. Meanwhile, the Eastern teams seem to cap out their winning records at 6-7, with huge gaps between.

Regarding the Lakers loss to the Pelicans, I was looking at their SBNation blog last night, and apparently the general consensus seems to be that the Pelicans are better without Anthony Davis.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 03, 2019, 09:37:13 AM
I have not idea, but it's a good argument to switch to Top 16 Playoffs instead of East v West every year.
More deserving teams in the West than the trash that's happening in the East year after year.
The playoffs would be much more competitive, with the best of the best rising to the top.
1 seed would mean a whole lost more too.

Let's take a look at what a 1-16 would like if the Playoffs were to happen today  (p.s. Lakers still miss the Playoffs. LMAO)

(1 v 16) Buck v Pistons  |  (2 v 15) Raptors v Nets

(8 v 9) Trailblazers v Celtics  |  (7 v 10) Thunder v Rockets


(5 v 12) Pacers v Spurs  |  (6 v 11) 76ers v Jazz

(4 v 13) Nuggets v Clippers  |  (3 v 14) Warriors v Kings 

It's 1 more West v East team lined up like this, but if you knew you were playing for overall record, and not just the record vs the people in your conference, scheduled losses against certain other teams would likely no longer be "scheduled" since now every win counts.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 03, 2019, 10:09:40 AM
This looks fun. LOL

(https://i.imgur.com/aonouKU.png)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ThePerm on March 03, 2019, 11:00:27 AM
Yesterday I watched the UFC ppv at a Buffalo Wild Wings. What was also great was there was that Suns vs Lakers game. As a fairweather Suns fan, it was nice to see. My friend had mentioned that "the suns have the like worst record this season"

Then we joked about the ol' Paper Rock Scissors factor.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 03, 2019, 03:14:27 PM
rock paper scissors is always a factor... anyone can have a bad night.

But............ The Lakers are fighting for an 8th seed slot.
Lebron stated that he has activated "Playoff Mode®" early this year

they have proceeded to lose game after game to teams that supposedly not really trying to win.
Now the Pelicans may have a bone to pick with Lebron and the Lakers, but Hawks, the Grizz and the Suns are all pretty bad teams (Trae Young has made major improvements upon his early season play though) that are actively playing for draft picks at this point.
If Lebron was really putting in that kind of effort, we shouldn't see **** like this (LMAO)
https://twitter.com/WorldWideWob/status/1102055989795319808 #Shaqtinafool

If the Lakers just kept playing the way they were playing last year before Lebron, but did it all year, they were likely an 8th seed team. If Lebron never got hurt, they may have been a 5th seed team.
and some may want to say the missing piece is Lonzo.... well, I think he comes back week after next. but that Laker schedule is not forgiving, so good luck sweeping that **** and hoping the Kings, Clips and Spurs all start dropping games like crazy.

Lakers lose against the Clips today, they have to follow up that loss with Denver and the the Celtics.... smh. and they gotta start beating the playoff contenders, they can't afford to give up a single game to anyone at this point.

Their next 8 games: Clippers, Nuggets, Celtics, Bulls, Raptors, Pistons, Knicks, Bucks
the bolded should be their gimmie games, but with the Suns calling their bluff... there are no more gimmie games.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on March 04, 2019, 05:56:59 AM
The Lakers aren’t making the playoffs. They probably would have made the playoffs if not for all the injuries despite all the unconventional signings after James. It’s irrelevant either way. If the Lakers make the playoffs, they aren’t winning the title so it’d be the same outcome if they don’t make it except with a worse draft pick. Some may argue that looking this bad will turn off free agents, and I really don’t think that’s the case. It’ll always be a destination franchise unless it’s completely devoid of assets or flexibility like a couple years ago.

There’s a part of me that wants the Lakers to miss the playoffs, somehow win the lottery, draft Zion Williamson, keep him, sign a max player, sign some decent vet role players at the minimum, and trot out that team next year. Not because I like the Lakers. There’s just nothing more delicious than angry sports tears. Then again, I get tired of hearing about any team all the time, and the Lakers get enough of that as a middling team.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on March 04, 2019, 06:37:14 AM
Lakers are a dumpster fire right now.

Lots of questionable (at best) off-season choices bringing in ill-fitting vets; young talent that isn't as talented as Lakers fans suggest; injuries derailing the momentum they did have; an ugly failed trade attempt at the deadline despite very publicly having players try to dictate the outcome. There was a point in time where this team could have made a playoff push - that time is long past, and salvaging a draft pick (which will probably end up being a trade asset rather than a Lakers player) is better than nothing.

I guess that dream of a Lakers/Celtics rematch will have to wait a few years.

...
Let's take a look at what a 1-16 would like if the Playoffs were to happen today  (p.s. Lakers still miss the Playoffs. LMAO)
...

Are available TV slots the only reason this hasn't happened yet?  Seems like a much better set of games when you are dropping the teams with the (actual) worst records instead of an almost arbitrary divide.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 04, 2019, 10:14:06 AM
I think the All-star game experiment might lead the way to playoff reseeding at some point.

Some West teams realizing they have a shot at beating the bottom 4 in the East and secure a potential playoff spot might motivate them to not tank, rest, or schedule low effort nights.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on March 04, 2019, 12:51:40 PM
Isn't travel a factor as well? You minimize coast-to-coast trips during the first few rounds, and the wear and tear that comes with them, saving it for the finals when you can kind of stretch the time a little more.

Edit: Looking at BNM's example, imagine the Celtics having to go back and forth to Portland, then potentially face the number 1 seed, then perhaps having to travel to LA (a possibility!) for the semi-finals, and then having to keep flying to the west coast to face the Warriors!  That's way too much travel.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 04, 2019, 10:19:58 PM
I have been watching the Lakers all this season and the Lakers had to win tonight versus the Clippers to still be mathematically still in the playoff chase. They didn't win tonight.   This season has been frustrating to watch. From the early suspension of Rondo and Ingram versus the Rockets, to the 2-5 start, to the early 4 seed, then LeBron suffering his worst injury of his career and being out 18 games, those losses to tanking teams before the All-Star break, the trade deadline  and then finally these past 3 games versus the Bucks, Suns and Clips.    It has just been tiring to watch going from the highest of highs to the lowest of lows.     

I will say that Lonzo when healthy is the key to unlocking this offense and a very good perimeter defender.  Kuzma I was very happy to see him develop a bit more consistency with his 3s.
Ingram finally figured out how to use his length and size to read opposing passes and on the offensive end as well.
Hart well he gives lots of heart to hustle and defense and his 3 is getting better.

I will say I think chemistry has been a problem all season. Part of that is the injuries and other times I think a bit just finding ones role within the team. The trade deadline pretty much doomed what chemistry there was.    I think next season there needs to be more depth,3 point shooters, consistency at the free throw line. 


As to the other team I sometimes watch here in Phoenix. The Suns.  Well they have some okay pieces around Booker and Aiton but they need a passing PG.   They have as of tonight the 2nd worst record in the league. Those 2 wins versus the Lakers and the Bucks brought them out of the worst record in the league.  If they do get the number 1 pick then obviously it would be Zion and find a PG in free agency. If they drop to 2 then Ja Morant is the choice definitely.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on March 05, 2019, 09:00:45 AM
The Lakers never should have let Julius Randle walk, but they were too busy shitting in Aaron Mintz’s mouth to realize this (Mintz is the agent for Randle, D’Angelo Russell, and Paul George). Randle was arguably the Lakers best player last year and would have been the second or third best player this year. He was already a decent trade asset and would have played himself into being an even better one too if his performance this season is anything to go by so if they wanted to unload him, it wouldn’t have been difficult. The Lakers wanted total flexibility by having cap space for a 10-year max contract without needing to make moves to get there. I mean, I get it as other teams couldn’t hold that over the Lakers. It’s still poor asset management. Keep the assets you have then deal with making the numbers work later.

Keeping Randle as a mostly small ball center would have solved so many problems this year. Hindsight is 20/20. The Lakers should have overpaid him (and posssibly groveled a little to Mintz) to get to sign a one and one with or without the team option. Trading Ivica Zubac for nothing was also asinine. This team better hope they get one of Kevin Durant/Kawhi Leonard/Kyrie Irving or none of this will have been worth it.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on March 05, 2019, 10:21:07 AM
The Lakers just beat the Celtics after being down 18 points in the first half. They set a franchise high for three pointers made (22). So, right now, Demps’ trolling worked for one game.

Gotta play the long game, even if it costs you your job. 8)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 10, 2019, 10:32:29 PM
So I was pretty surprised how the Suns have gone on a winning streak since beating the Lakers.   They beat the Bucks and tonight they beat the 2 time champs the Warriors.  I am happy to see the growth from them lately. 

The Lakers on the other hand has been bitten by the injury bug with Lonzo most likely not going to play for the rest of the season, Ingram suffering from a blood clot and it is season ending and Hart is still suffering from knee issues.  It has gotten so bad the past few games they had to go with their G League players in some parts of games. 
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 11, 2019, 02:46:36 AM
Lakers are in active TANK MODE. Lebron and Magic have put in the call, and we'll see how the Lakers some how get a Top 2 pick in the draft.
Lonzo and Ingram are both benched for the rest of the season, and Lebron is on minutes restriction.
They not trying to win any more games.

Suns somehow beat the Dubs last time we played too... I was at the game tonight. it was LOW energy the entire night. from the team to the crowd. We took this as a scheduled W and ended up with an L that really doesn't matter (in the moment) as we still have the 1 seed... for now.
Still disappointing, and all the more reasoning why they should switch to a 1-16 seed ranking (to hell with the travel, deal with it.)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on March 11, 2019, 05:40:27 AM
Ball and Ingram are injured. Ball was never coming back in six to eight weeks with a grade three ankle sprain. It was probably closer to ten weeks which would be end of March. Sure, he could come back, but why? Ingram is not even allowed to play per league rules because he’s on blood thinners due to DVT (deep vein thrombosis). Blood thinning medicine is the same reason Chris Bosh was forced into early retirement. That doesn’t mean Ingram’s career is over. It may be an isolated incident rather than an on-going condition.

Injuries disrupted any chemistry and rhythm the team had. You can call it “tanking” but also, the team isn’t very good. Tanking implies intentionally trying to lose games. Even when James wasn’t on minutes restriction, the Lakers were bad (James was also playing too much for his age). If a team is bad, they’re usually just losing because other teams are better than them. I hope the Lakers win the lottery because that would be hilarious. The Cavs (via the Clippers pick that landed them Mo Williams) had a 2.8% chance of landing the top pick which they used to draft Kyrie Irving.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on March 11, 2019, 07:54:40 AM
I agree with Adrock. Bad teams can't tank by virtue of them being bad.

I made a promise not to call the draft lottery rigged after the Hornets Pelicans got the pick to draft AD, but that era is over.  I fully expect the Lakers to get a decent pick.

Still disappointing, and all the more reasoning why they should switch to a 1-16 seed ranking (to hell with the travel, deal with it.)

I think the extra travel would also impact the game/TV schedule.  Players would need an extra rest day or two between the games if they're in back-to-back coast-to-coast series.  This would make the playoffs would probably end in like August or something.  Ok, probably not that late, but maybe like another 2 weeks.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 22, 2019, 10:53:19 PM
Well as of tonight versus the Brooklyn Nets the Lakers are eliminated mathematically from playoff contention.  I guess it would be fitting that Dlo would eliminate the Lakers after shipping him to the Nets 2 seasons ago when they didn't need to. 

Really the only thing worth looking to is July for free agency and the draft. Currently for the draft they have the 10th pick. Hopefully they can get up to the 8th pick so they have a 26.3% of getting into the top 4.
http://www.tankathon.com/
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 23, 2019, 04:32:02 PM
Now if only the kings will get their **** together and start winning games, maybe they can bump the Spurs out of the Playoffs, and we can have 3 Cali teams in the race, only eliminating the Lakers. LOL

At least now Lebron can go focus on Space Jam 2
but I still hope we get a Curry30 cameo. LOL
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 26, 2019, 12:48:11 AM
HOLY **** **NSFL WARNING**

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvolan-diXY

Yusif Nurkic breaks his leg... just above the ankle. you can hear the snap, it folds back.
and then... and then... the ref kicks him in his flopped foot while stepping over him.



OMG, that was horrific. Watch at your own risk, especially if you have the audio on.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on March 26, 2019, 02:22:04 AM
HOLY **** **NSFL WARNING**

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvolan-diXY

Yusif Nurkic breaks his leg... just above the ankle. you can hear the snap, it folds back.
and then... and then... the ref kicks him in his flopped foot while stepping over him.



OMG, that was horrific. Watch at your own risk, especially if you have the audio on.

Well, that's unfortunate. You never like to see a player go down with that kind of injury.

On the other hand, the Blazers are probably the Jazz's 1st Round Opponent, and we've had our own issues with injuries this year so it's beneficial for us.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 26, 2019, 08:44:03 AM
Even worse than the player going down is the dumbass bonehead Ref who kicks his foot on the broken leg, trying to step over him like AI did to Ty Lue. That's some unexcusable bullshit.

The other Ref had to point out that there was a man down, and the first ref looked completely unaware that anything was wrong.
talk about reinforcing stereotypes. How blind can a ref be!? WTF.
there should be a fine for that, suspension maybe, possibly firing? combination of the 1st 2 at the very least.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on March 26, 2019, 09:13:46 AM
That break was awful to look at.

And yeah, the ref should at least be aware enough to walk around a player on the ground.  And I'm not sure if it's their job, but if a player doesn't get up right away, a quick eye scan for apparent injury should be easy enough to do.

But I guess that's one less obstacle for the Warriors.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 10, 2019, 11:46:15 PM
2019 Playoffs are set.

(https://i.imgur.com/jQ2D0qZ.jpg)

Portland beating the Kings today fucked up my bracket choices, as it moved Portland up to 3rd, and Houston down to 4th, which means now OKC doesn't face the Rockets and Utah doesn't face Portland.

That potentially puts us against the Rockets in the 2nd round instead of the WCF... if only we dropped to the 2nd seed. LOL (The Kings let me down today, all they had to do was beat POR)

anyone care to make their 1st round prediction?

Winner & how many games it takes:

edit: Oh, and almost forgot to mention Magic Johnson quit in fashion from the Lakers. Didn't even tell the owner before hand, just held a press conference an admitted defeat and failure.

DWade and Dirk both played their last games this week.
Crowd in Miami actually burst out in "Paul Pierce Sucks!!" chants during Wade's last home game.
(Paul Pierce was asked who had a better carreer or was a better player, PP had nothing nice to say about DWade and instead talked himself up like it was the singularly obvious choice to make.)
DWade also went out on a Triple Double tonight
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 11, 2019, 03:17:10 AM
Lets see the first round... Warriors in 5, Rockets in 6, Thunder in 6, Nuggets in 5.  Bucks in 4, Celtics in 5, 76ers in 6, Raptors in 4.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on April 11, 2019, 05:25:19 AM
Lets see the first round... Warriors in 5, Rockets in 6, Thunder in 6, Nuggets in 5.  Bucks in 4, Celtics in 5, 76ers in 6, Raptors in 4.

Honestly, I'd like to think the Jazz could pull off an upset in 7, but the NBA doesn't allow anyone to be within 10 feet of James Harden, so overall those predictions sound about right to me. -_-
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on April 11, 2019, 05:38:43 AM
Predictions:
Warriors in 4
Jazz in 6
Blazers in 6
Nuggets in 6
Bucks in 4
Pacers in 6
Sixers in 5
Raptors in 5
Oh, and almost forgot to mention Magic Johnson quit in fashion from the Lakers. Didn't even tell the owner before hand, just held a press conference an admitted defeat and failure.
That’s one way of framing it. Another is he’s really close with Jeanie Buss, and if he told her, she would have convinced him to stay which is actually not what’s best for the team. I’m no Magic Johnson stan. Defeat and failure are both accurate. Not telling the owner wasn’t really quitting in fashion though. It wasn’t some final **** you. If anything, it was kind of cowardly.

This whole situation is kooky. Buss brought in people she could trust (understandable after her brother attempted a coup), not people who necessarily knew what they were doing. Rob Pelinka is Kobe Bryant’s former agent who apparently most teams hate. Magic Johnson was never around. He apparently wanted to fire both Luke Walton and Pelinka, but Buss refused out of loyalty for people within the “Lakers family.” [insert air jerking motion here]
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on April 11, 2019, 07:23:19 AM
Warriors in 5
Houston in 6
OKC in 6
Denver in 4
Bucks in 4
Celtics in 5
76ers in 5
Raptors in 6

It's crazy how terrible the Lakers are as an organization currently.  LeBron should've gone to the Clippers if he wanted to be in LA so bad.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 11, 2019, 09:59:25 PM
Oh, and almost forgot to mention Magic Johnson quit in fashion from the Lakers. Didn't even tell the owner before hand, just held a press conference an admitted defeat and failure.
That’s one way of framing it. Another is he’s really close with Jeanie Buss, and if he told her, she would have convinced him to stay which is actually not what’s best for the team. I’m no Magic Johnson stan. Defeat and failure are both accurate. Not telling the owner wasn’t really quitting in fashion though. It wasn’t some final **** you. If anything, it was kind of cowardly.

This whole situation is kooky. Buss brought in people she could trust (understandable after her brother attempted a coup), not people who necessarily knew what they were doing. Rob Pelinka is Kobe Bryant’s former agent who apparently most teams hate. Magic Johnson was never around. He apparently wanted to fire both Luke Walton and Pelinka, but Buss refused out of loyalty for people within the “Lakers family.” [insert air jerking motion here]

by "in fashion" I really meant in "Cowardice"
he made a spectacle of it because like you said, he couldn't do it any other way.

It's crazy how terrible the Lakers are as an organization currently.  LeBron should've gone to the Clippers if he wanted to be in LA so bad.

^^This is the truth. Jerry West - "MS Money" Ballmer - new Stadium incoming - no championship (I think)
And if he wanted to stay in the East.... he be back at the top if he joined the 76ers.

either way, at least he'd be in the playoffs. LOL
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 12, 2019, 07:48:48 AM
Okay I am not going to let everyone diss the Lakers like this.
First of all he LeBron in part moved to LA for his family. He really liked what they had in the young core and the cap space they had in Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma and Hart. He also said he does want to win championships but for the Lakers because of the history of the franchise. He also said recently that he wants his jersey lifted up in the rafters.

Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on April 12, 2019, 08:30:22 AM
A young core is cool, but it still doesn't mean they're a well run team.  Clippers have hands down the better coach.  Then, Magic basically got called out for not going to work or doing anything as president.  He probably should've been asked to leave sooner so they could put someone more effective in the position.

The Anthony Davis trade botch job was not really The Lakers' fault, so I won't ding them on that, but it does make them look like a comedy of errors.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on April 12, 2019, 09:04:22 AM
Okay I am not going to let everyone diss the Lakers like this.
First of all he LeBron in part moved to LA for his family. He really liked what they had in the young core and the cap space they had in Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma and Hart. He also said he does want to win championships but for the Lakers because of the history of the franchise. He also said recently that he wants his jersey lifted up in the rafters.
The Lakers are my team. I’ll diss them when I feel it’s appropriate. Magic Johnson and Rob Pelinka’s tenure started off pretty well. They managed to get a pick for Lou Williams which they ultimately traded to draft Josh Hart. I didn’t love the D’Angelo Russell trade, but I understood it. We also can’t dismiss what a change of scenery can do for a player so I won’t hold Russell’s rise in Brooklyn against Johnson/Pelinka. Letting Julius Randle walk despite the coaching staff insisting the front office re-sign him was hilariously bad team management. It’s defensible (no Randle means max cap space) but still a worse move. If Randle was on the roster around the trade deadline, the Lakers could have included him in the Anthony Davis trade. Maybe that gets the deal done, maybe it doesn’t. Cutting Thomas Bryant made no sense since he was getting paid rookie minimum wage. Trading Ivica Zubac for *shrug emoji* was just fucking asinine. Last summer’s signings were interesting. They zagged when everyone else zigged. It didn’t work out, but there was a method to that madness.

Jeanie Buss needs to hire the right people, those who know basketball from the management side of the negotiating table. Former Cavs General Manager interviewed for the Pelicans job. I’d bet he’d rather be in Los Angeles. Hire him as President of Basketball Operations and give him full autonomy because he’s proven he can build a championship team, particularly with LeBron James. Chances are he fires Pelinka and keeps Walton. Personally, I’d keep Walton but revamp his staff. Fewer dude-bros, more basketball minds.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on April 12, 2019, 02:59:35 PM
Lakers fires Luke Walton. Rob Pelinka is apparently in charge of the head coach search. Fine.

Hire a President of Basketball Operations then do other stuff. This isn’t difficult.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 12, 2019, 07:55:18 PM
Lakers fires Luke Walton. Rob Pelinka is apparently in charge of the head coach search. Fine.

Hire a President of Basketball Operations then do other stuff. This isn’t difficult.

No, I want to see the next PBO fire Pelinka and then also fire his coach as well.

But rumor is that Lakers are looking at Ty Lue for the next Head Coach position.... smh.
Let the **** show in land of LAL continue.

It's also very likely that Luke Walton will be hired on as Head Coach of the Kings for next season.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Shaymin on April 13, 2019, 05:12:50 AM
Warriors in the West but the WCF is closer than most expect, Milwaukee beats Toronto in a ECF game 7 reffed by the trio of Tim, Jim, and Clyde "Slim" Donaghy, Warriors in 6 in the finals.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on April 13, 2019, 02:26:09 PM
So, the Nets upset the 76ers today. Huh.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 13, 2019, 03:12:41 PM
I had to check if Embid played for the 76ers but he did and I guess the difference was the bench for the Nets.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on April 13, 2019, 04:48:33 PM
Man, I didn't think I'd get to use one of my favorite sports gifs already, but here we are. Things come, things go, but the Raptors...are still the Raptors.

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SpectacularDigitalGuineafowl-small.gif)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on April 13, 2019, 04:51:32 PM
Jebus............
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 13, 2019, 07:59:48 PM
Dubs in 3!!!
4th game is a formality.

I'm glad Durant took Beverly out the game. He was hunting for blood. If he hurt either a Steph or any other Warrior, I might've had to drive it to Oakland tonight.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on April 13, 2019, 09:59:40 PM
Wow, we had an eventual first day of the playoffs with 3 upsets, concluding with the Spurs upsetting the Nuggets.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 15, 2019, 06:11:41 AM
I thought I had posted this already, but I guess not.....

Game of Zones season opener
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdVTBGEuxhM


and the Bucks v Pistons was an outright embarrassment.
they should relinquish game 2 to the Hornets, and if the Hornets can't present even the smallest of challenge, they should blend the best of the 2 teams or let the Bucks play the next 2 against the Heat in Miami.

Also, Jazz needs to step it up in Game 2. I didn't get to really watch, but it sounds like the strategy of keep Harden off the line and instead giving him a lane, were everyone collapses on him does not work. please refine the strategy. Please put the right person on him to actually execute said strategy, and please do better in game 2.

Portland will eventually lose to OKC.... maybe, either way, I want it to be a 7 game series. Don't really care who walks away from this one. would prefer to see Dame Dolla get to the 2nd round over Westprick and PG

Pacers had the 1st half firmly under control... not sure what happened in the 2nd half, but talk about a "Tale of Two Half's" it was like 2 different games. Pacers need to figure out whatever they were doing right in teh first half, and apply that to the game in the 2nd half too
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on April 15, 2019, 02:52:16 PM
I think the Jazz will be much more competitive in Game 2. I don't have Cable anymore, so I wasn't able to watch the game live, but from what I understand just about all of the Jazz's shooters went ice cold in Game 1. I highly doubt that will happen again.

The defense is another story. The NBA won't allow anyone to guard James Harden.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 15, 2019, 03:27:59 PM
I saw a video a few weeks back on how the Bucks defended against Harden and it is pretty eye opening.
For BnM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwynmarNMkI
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on April 15, 2019, 04:26:15 PM
Reports are that Blake Griffin is expected to miss the entire first round of the playoffs. But you could say that same sentence with about four fewer words.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on April 16, 2019, 07:01:01 AM
So how about them Dubs? Seems like they just want ALL the records...
(The funny part is that we all know dropping that game doesn't matter. There is no way that Warriors are losing this series.)

Man, I didn't think I'd get to use one of my favorite sports gifs already, but here we are. Things come, things go, but the Raptors...are still the Raptors.

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SpectacularDigitalGuineafowl-small.gif)

As a long-time Raps fan who has thoroughly enjoyed a strong regular season, I'm shocked at how many analysts didn't see this coming. Raps always lose the first game, and Orlando came in hot with some tough match-ups for Toronto.

That said, things look easily correctable. If 3-point shooting stabilizes a bit, defensive rotations aren't outright blown, and the point guard situation is brought under control then Orlando should be outmatched over the course of a 7-game series. Hopefully. What a terrible upset that would be for Toronto otherwise...

For what it's worth, I was also shocked by how many people predicted the Raps could make the finals. I expect the Bucks would crush them before that happen, if Toronto even makes it that far. Giannis & Co consistently look amazing this year, and feel like a team that knows exactly who and what they are.

Sometimes you have to prove yourself when the pressure is on, even if you have talent on paper. So far, Toronto (much like Philly) hasn't done that. Those two teams would be a great second round series for just that reason.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on April 16, 2019, 10:46:50 AM
31 must be a cursed number.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 16, 2019, 02:01:35 PM
Yeah what is it with the Warriors and the numbers 3 and 1.

I wonder if the Clips are going to make this series more competitive than most of us thought. I could see the Clippers splitting the 2 games at Staples Center. I also wonder if Boogie going down is going to make things more difficult for them. I mean they are essentially last years team now.

Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 16, 2019, 02:20:56 PM
Boogie slowed us down. He's also slow on defense.
I actually think we'll fare better without him, even if he was an asset on offense in the post.
If Stone hands Looney can just develop a more aggressive approach with a softer touch, we'll be fine.

That 31pt comeback will be a wakeup call. I don't think it happens again in these playoffs.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Shaymin on April 16, 2019, 07:09:19 PM
The Raptors have exceeded the most dangerous lead in basketball as of this post.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on April 16, 2019, 07:12:09 PM
The Raptors have exceeded the most dangerous lead in basketball as of this post.

Yeah, it's look like they took that Game 1 loss a BIT personally.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on April 17, 2019, 07:47:30 PM
*sigh* Looks like not renewing my Cable subscription was a good idea.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 17, 2019, 08:01:45 PM
no point in watching the Jazz Rockets series, huh?

I blame the Kings for fucking up our brackets.
It should've been Jazz Trailblazers & OKC Rockets

that would've given us the match up we all wanted.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 19, 2019, 07:56:54 AM
Anyone watch the Dubs Clips game last night?

WTF is up with the refs?
I really hope the league review that double T on Durant and Green (on the Clips).
there was a foul, and then they were talking it out, Durant was laughing, and the ref came up an slapped them both with a T.... like they were arguing. They were both blown away as they weren't doing anything to warrant a technical at all.

and all the ticky tacky calls, some were plain as day in replay, but then you wonder why others weren't called, yet some BS mystery calls... on both teams were called. The reffing was suspect in the first half.

Has it been like this in all the rest of the Playoff games too?
I know there was another Playoff game I was watching where the refs were trying hard to control the flow of the game by calling suspect fouls, but i can't remember who I was watching.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Shaymin on April 19, 2019, 07:09:00 PM
The double T was rescinded on both ends, yeah.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 20, 2019, 10:47:34 PM
That Rockets Jazz game.... smfh

They held Harden to 0/15 from the field until the 4th quarter.
Had CP3 at 5 fouls early in the 3rd

and still couldn't manage to put points on the board or create any sort of lead whatsoever.
kept chucking and missing 3's....  wide open too.

Brood.... you ok man?
Your boys look like they bout to be swept.

Can't ask for more of a gift from Houston than the performance they put up today.
had they been playing the Warriors, it woulda been a 20pt+ blowout.
Jazz easily should have maintained at least a double digit lead for the majority of that game.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on April 20, 2019, 11:04:36 PM
That Rockets Jazz game.... smfh

They held Harden to 0/15 from the field until the 4th quarter.
Had CP3 at 5 fouls early in the 3rd

and still couldn't manage to put points on the board or create any sort of lead whatsoever.
kept chucking and missing 3's....  wide open too.

Brood.... you ok man?
Your boys look like they bout to be swept.

Can't ask for more of a gift from Houston than the performance they put up today.
had they been playing the Warriors, it woulda been a 20pt+ blowout.
Jazz easily should have maintained at least a double digit lead for the majority of that game.

The only thing I can say is that we may have one of the best front offices in the league (seriously, Dennis Lindsey has made some amazing moves over the years maintaining the team at its current level), but last season after the Jazz got easily bounced out of the playoffs in the 2nd round they needed to make some major changes. Instead, the front office chose to keep the team as it was. A year later, every other team in the West improved, and the Jazz finished at the same seed and now look to be easily bounced from the 1st round.

One of the reasons why I hate the Lakers and other similar teams is that success historically has come so easy for them. They have a history, they have money, and they have the draw of the big cities. Big name talent just wants to play there. By comparison, the Jazz have had to fight tooth and nail to get every bit of talent they've ever had, outside of the flukes that were Stockton and Malone (who the Jazz drafted, and who were happy playing in Utah for decades). Big name talent just doesn't come to Utah without trades or luck at the Draft.

The Jazz need to get aggressive this off-season and heavily pursue big talent. Donovan Mitchell is an amazing talent, but like Gordan Hayward and Deron Williams (**** him) before him, he's not going to stick around for mediocrity year after year. And man are Jazz fans sick of the front office sitting on its hands every offseason and trade deadline.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 21, 2019, 02:50:55 AM
Truth is, we always knew that the Jazz was never beating the Rockets in a 7 game series anyway, but I was hoping they would put up more of a fight than they have so far.... Rockets basically gifted them a game. That's actually selling it short, but the Jazz earned this game on defense, but couldn't secure it on offense. It's a damn shame.

if things went as planned, they would have been paired up with Portland, which I think would have been a better match up, also pitting the Rockets vs OKC which would have been much more fun to watch for both series. I blame the Kings for fucking this up. Portland tried to give the win to the Kings, and they still couldn't take it....

Rockets vs Dubs will be good, but would've been better saved for the WCF, as the winner of that series goes to the Finals for sure. And most likely wins it all.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 21, 2019, 03:12:38 AM
and I remember these days for the Warriors... it wasn't for playoffs, but damn.
If i was in Indiana, do I want to go to a Pacers Playoff game, or buy some fast food and watch the game at home?

(https://i.imgur.com/khe07wP.png)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 21, 2019, 01:43:26 PM
Well Celtics beat the Pacers in 4 and it was pretty close till the 4th quarter where the Celtics just didn't let up.  I did like that the Pacers kept shooting 3s near the end even though with the time remaining it was unlikely that they would eclipse the Celtics.  1st series wrapped up with the Celtics progressing to the 2nd round.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 21, 2019, 06:10:06 PM
Game of Zones S6E2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_BN-_SUEYQ


and that Raptor Magic game was Zzzzz
that series needs to end already. Bucks about to sweep the Pistons, and I'm pretty sure the Sixers will finish of the Nets in the next game, but the Nets are putting up a good fight.
No idea how long the Celtics Pacers series will go, but I'm pretty sure the Celts come out on top.

Warriors handled the Clips today, and will most likely finish them off on Wednesday.
HOPEFULLY, the Jazz can get it together for 1 game and extend the Rocket series at least 1 more game so that the Rockets get no rest before the next series (assuming the Dubs finish off the Clips as expected on Wed.)

Who knows who comes out of the Pacers Spurs series.... don't honestly care tbh. LOL
and I'm hoping this OKC Portland series goes 6 or more, because I feel whoever wins between these 2 go the WCF. I'd would love to see Westbook lose, but I'd rather face OKC. lol

2nd round in the East should be a good watch
Raps v Sixers should be fun
Bucks v Celtics could be good too

and in the West we got
Dubs v Rockets which is the probably gonna be the most watched series of the 1st/2nd round easily

still not sure about the other 2 series
Portland(?) v Spurs(?)?

It's looking like Portland is gonna take this game, since they are up by 15 atm.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 22, 2019, 09:52:08 PM
BROOOOOOD!!!!! Where you at!!!

Are the Jazz about to do it!!!?
are they gonna not get swept and take this back to Houston on Wednesday?
please make it happen!!!!
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on April 22, 2019, 09:54:59 PM
BROOOOOOD!!!!! Where you at!!!

Are the Jazz about to do it!!!?
are they gonna not get swept and take this back to Houston on Wednesday?
please make it happen!!!!

I'm not saying a goddamn word. I've seen how these have gone when I have.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 22, 2019, 10:06:47 PM
I think you can say something now!!! :D

Utah stadium is absolutely DEAFENING right now.
I hope you guys take one in Houston too. I'm rooting for you. LOL
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on April 22, 2019, 10:10:24 PM
Alright, then, now that the game is over and the Jazz DID win...WOO!  :D

Man, what a weird game. You know it's bizarro-land when the Jazz win behind big games from Mitchell, Jae Crowder, Ricky Rubio, and Royce O'Neal of all people. Ingles, Favors, Golbert, and Korver were pretty much non-factors until the final minutes of the game.

Well, at least we're going to leave this series with some dignity before we walk into the woodchipper that will be Game 5. Hey, should the unlikeliest of all events occur and we SOMEHOW get to Game 7, that game would actually be on my birthday!

It would be nice to push this to Game 6, but I think this ends in Game 5. The Rockets are just a really bad match-up for the Jazz, and outside of Mitchell and Rubio our big players just aren't getting it together.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 22, 2019, 10:17:37 PM
Honestly, if the Jazz stopped shooting 3's in game 3 and took it to the hole like they did tonight, this might be a 2-2 series right now heading back to Houston.
Thye kept trying to rely on the quick come-back (live by and die by the 3) and it failed them in the long run. Had they just kept chipping away in the paint, it could've been a different game.

If it wasn't for the fact that my Warriors are also playing on Wednesday (thank you for taking the Rockets to at least one more game, starting this Wednesday as well) I would lend you some of that GS Rain and Shine, but I don't want to underestimate the Clippers....
You guys got this.

and Gobert was a liability for that brief 30 seconds he came in at the end of the 4th. Quinn yanked his ass so quick after 2 fuckups in a row, the 2nd just being baffling.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on April 22, 2019, 10:23:44 PM
Honestly, if the Jazz stopped shooting 3's in game 3 and took it to the hole like they did tonight, this might be a 2-2 series right now heading back to Houston.
Thye kept trying to rely on the quick come-back (live by and die by the 3) and it failed them in the long run. Had they just kept chipping away in the paint, it could've been a different game.

If it wasn't for the fact that my Warriors are also playing on Wednesday (thank you for taking the Rockets to at least one more game, starting this Wednesday as well) I would lend you some of that GS Rain and Shine, but I don't want to underestimate the Clippers....
You guys got this.

and Gobert was a liability for that brief 30 seconds he came in at the end of the 4th. Quinn yanked his ass so quick after 2 fuckups in a row, the 2nd just being baffling.

The stat lines that confounds me are Korver & Ingles'. They not only aren't making shots. They're flat out not TAKING them. Considering that they're supposed to be taking the pressure off Mitchell, their absence is probably the bulk of the reason why this series has gone the way it has.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 22, 2019, 10:26:50 PM
Let's hope they show up in Houston... or is Korver hurt?

I heard something about an injury, and I don't remember seeing him during this game.
But Ingles I don't think I saw take more than 1-2 shots.... meanwhile Rubio chucked up about 5-6 3pt bricks in a row.
I didn't see most of the 1st half, but I tuned in with about 7or so minutes left in the 1st half, so maybe I missed something.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on April 22, 2019, 10:33:51 PM
Let's hope they show up in Houston... or is Korver hurt?

I heard something about an injury, and I don't remember seeing him during this game.
But Ingles I don't think I saw take more than 1-2 shots.... meanwhile Rubio chucked up about 5-6 3pt bricks in a row.
I didn't see most of the 1st half, but I tuned in with about 7or so minutes left in the 1st half, so maybe I missed something.

Korver did get hurt towards the end of regular season, but I thought he was recovered by now. Perhaps he's not 100%, so Quin Synder sees him as a liability at the moment.

Incidentally, something I suspected was going on, but I see a LOT of push-offs by the Rockets in the official replay of this game, mostly from Harden because of course they are. It's nice to see that some things never change when it comes to playoff officiating.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 23, 2019, 03:45:17 AM
The push offs are SO BLATANT too. it's ridiculous.
at this point, you just gotta hope he keeps missing them. LOL

and then continue to keep scoring. and that's where they failed in game 3. They couldn't score.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Shaymin on April 24, 2019, 05:43:53 AM
Damian Lillard is a stone cold killer. Getting to 50 with a game winning stepback 3 from midcourt? (https://twitter.com/NBCSNorthwest/status/1120915920375963650?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1120915920375963650%7Ctwgr%5E363937393b636f6e74726f6c&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdeadspin.com%2Fajax%2Finset%2Fiframe%3Fid%3Dtwitter-1120915920375963650%26autosize%3D1)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 24, 2019, 06:20:09 AM
they said that cat been something like 60% from beyond 27ft in this series.

3pt line is something like 23.6ft? I'm not sure.
Wish I was watching when it happened. OKC should have known better...
but they were also up 17 sometime in the 4th. never should've gotten there.

#ENDGAME
Dame Time
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on April 24, 2019, 07:59:03 AM
I liked when Paul George said that it was "a bad shot" only to have statistics complete contradict him. Please whine harder OKC.

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--DfkmPkZn--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/arg5rmma6bkjijsady8v.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on April 24, 2019, 08:11:38 AM
I agree with George though. The stats (small sample size and all) might disagree, but he had Lillard out close to half and even stepped up on him to get a solid hand up on the shot. Defensively, you could say that he wasn't close enough, that he should have forced a drive and kick just to make someone else be the one to beat them... but when someone takes a contested, side-step jumper from close to half court while being contested, you have to just live with those results.

Great game, amazing shot. Anyone acting like this is statistically normal is misrepresenting - it was a spectacular way to finish a series! Lillard is an absolute assassin, like few others I've ever seen.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 24, 2019, 08:43:42 AM
He was over 60% from 27ft and beyond for the series.
That wasn't even the only deep 3 he made in that game.

When he's on like that, you gotta guard him like Steph.
Lillard is deadly from all over the court, you gotta be all in his face like you would Steph.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on April 24, 2019, 10:39:28 AM
He was over 60% from 27ft and beyond for the series.
...

60% over how many shots, over how many games? 
When a sample size is this small, how much value do those stats really have?

I'm agreeing they probably should have crowded Lillard more to get the ball out of his hands and make someone else take the potential game-winning shot. I'm agreeing that the best comparable is Curry for range and pure shot-making ability, and that you shouldn't give Dame space regardless of where he is on the court.

But if you care about process over results, the shot selection wasn't good and the "end results over everything" analysis isn't helpful.

My takeaways are that you can't leave a great shooter who is having an amazing game with that much time and space. Especially not when the shooter knows that there is no pressure on the shot (if Lillard missed, no harm - they just go into overtime) and that he's got enough confidence to pull the trigger without question.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on April 24, 2019, 02:14:55 PM
Just wanted to share this glorious headline from The Root:

Manhunt Underway After Dame Lillard Commits 1st-Degree Murder on National Television (https://www.theroot.com/manhunt-underway-after-dame-lillard-commits-1st-degree-1834267326/amp)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on April 24, 2019, 02:37:27 PM
60% over how many shots, over how many games? 
When a sample size is this small, how much value do those stats really have?

He was 8 of 12 from beyond 30 feet in the series. 4 of 6 in Game 5.
We can spin it any way we want and Paul can whine and whine but that was not a bad shot by Lillard. He can and will hit those more often than not.

EDIT: He's 30% career making shots between 30 and 40 feet (37 of 122). This season he was 39.2% (20 of 59).
https://twitter.com/kirkgoldsberry/status/1121049794347028481

EDIT 2: Also, yeah. I don't want to hear about bad shots from the dude sitting next to Russell Westbrook.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on April 24, 2019, 03:15:33 PM
That was an amazing shot, but it was also an absolutely wretched play. What if that shot HADN'T gone in and the Blazers then lost in OT? Then we would be berating him for just holding the ball beyond the key until the clock was nearly expired before throwing up a wayward 3.

In that respect, I absolutely agree with George.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on April 24, 2019, 04:25:59 PM
...
This season he was 39.2% (20 of 59).
...

Look closely at the claims you are making (or at least, quoting). Do you want to rethink that math?
Or maybe not - that could explain why you think that it wasn't possible to find a better shot when only a single point was needed to win the game?

One last funny note: your "can and will hit those more often than not" comment makes me laugh, when it's clear that it's not true. He hits them, and he hits them often enough that I'm not against him taking them. But when you need a single point, and have a single opportunity, that's not the shot you should be seeking out.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on April 24, 2019, 07:23:03 PM
*sigh*

Well...what can you do? The Jazz made the Rockets earn this last win, and they were in it until the end. Their offense just couldn't put them over the top. Not much more you can ask from a team this outmatched than that.

As I said before, the Jazz head office needs to get serious for once this offseason and make some major changes. Jazz fans aren't satisfied with just making the playoffs anymore. Our team needs to be a legitimate threat to the higher seeds, and that won't happen so long as they remain conservative.

On the vindictive side, I look forward to the Warriors beating the crap out of the Rockets and ensuring that Chris Paul and James Harden continue to not have Championships.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 24, 2019, 09:33:50 PM
Jazz had a legitimate chance at being up 3-2 in that series as they could've easily taken the last 3 games had they just been able to produce some offense.

But damn these Clippers ain't backing down. They making this a helluva game right now. Hopefully the Warriors pull through and don't give the Rockets any rest.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 24, 2019, 10:17:36 PM
Wow the Clips are making this a series now. Clippers won tonight. I will say that I am liking what the Clippers are doing. I am thinking that the lack of Boogie is hurting the Warriors. I mean Durant, Curry and Thompson scored 91 and it wasn't enough for the Clippers.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on April 24, 2019, 11:17:17 PM
...
This season he was 39.2% (20 of 59).
...

Look closely at the claims you are making (or at least, quoting). Do you want to rethink that math?
Or maybe not - that could explain why you think that it wasn't possible to find a better shot when only a single point was needed to win the game?

That's the shot you take when you have a tie game and you get the last shot of regulation. Arguing about shot selection IN THIS INSTANCE is so dumb because THIS IS WHAT DAME DOES. It's crazy y'all out here arguing that Dame will drive past PG (a DPOY candidate) and somehow have a higher percentage shot than the shot he took.

It's a bad shot if PG takes it. It's a bad shot if Russell takes it. It's a bad shot when everyone in Portland except Dame takes it. But it was Dame who took the shot. And it's dumb that PG of all people started this whole "shot selection" argument WHILE HE WAS SITTING NEXT TO RUSSELL WESTBROOK. That's the only reason we're talking about this.

The Thunder set their final regulation possession defense thinking the dude who had shot 7 of 11 from beyond 30 feet at that moment wasn't going to put up another shot from that distance and make it, even though statistically it was the safest moment for him to do so. That's a risk you're willing to take and if he burns you, so be it. But don't go talking after the fact about how it was a "bad shot".
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on April 25, 2019, 06:38:45 AM
That's the shot you take when you have a tie game and you get the last shot of regulation. Arguing about shot selection IN THIS INSTANCE is so dumb because THIS IS WHAT DAME DOES. It's crazy y'all out here arguing that Dame will drive past PG (a DPOY candidate) and somehow have a higher percentage shot than the shot he took.

It's a bad shot if PG takes it. It's a bad shot if Russell takes it. It's a bad shot when everyone in Portland except Dame takes it. But it was Dame who took the shot.
That’s how I viewed it. There are like three players in the NBA where I’d think, “Yeah, that’s about right,” after taking that shot even if he missed, and Damian Lillard is two of those guys.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on April 25, 2019, 07:07:12 AM
Not sure why you sound so sore about it.

Nobody is defending Westbrook's shot selection, so I don't know why you feel that's relevant.
I've admitted that George didn't put enough pressure on, although he did close and get a hand-up, forcing a tough side-step attempt from beyond 35 feet.
We all know Lillard is a cold-hearted killer on the court.
These are all facts.

But Lillard could have gotten a higher percentage look and there was no effective difference between a three and a free throw in determining who wins the game. The numbers you quoted are wrong (not sure if it's the shots taken/hit or the percentage - but one of them MUST be wrong) and in either case they are sub-40% looks at best. It's that easy. Side-step threes from beyond 35 feet to get clear of George's block attempt can go down, but aren't the best shots and aren't amazingly consistent.

Results look good because Lillard is an amazing player. Process (and your conclusion) is flawed.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on April 25, 2019, 11:32:49 PM
Man, who could have called the Spurs & Nuggets for the most interesting series of the 1st round?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on April 26, 2019, 04:07:04 AM
Nuggets vs Spurs, with Warriors vs Clippers close behind... wow!
The East wasn't going to compete - everyone knows there are only 4 big (maybe) teams out there, but I think a lot of people expected Nuggets and Warriors to roll.
The big question to me is which series will be most exciting in round 2. There are some questions about playoff readiness, and it's had to know if some of those series will be very close all the way or if teams will disappoint and fold early. *coughRaptorsSixerscough*


"If anything, it was bad defense..." --Lillard
He's not wrong here. Sometimes a great shooter simply takes what he's given, and there wasn't nearly enough pressure even if George did close the gap just before the shot.

(I'm not backing down from my take that Lillard could have created a higher percentage look, but the defense was far too lax for a season-ending shot.)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 26, 2019, 10:02:05 PM
Huh the Warriors changed their starting lineup and got a win on the back of Durant scoring 50 and better defense. Clippers made it interesting though.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 26, 2019, 10:50:30 PM
They were trying to play the "we'll just outscore them" game. Clippers won that in game 5.
Gotta play defense. We really stepped it up today on the defensive end.

I hope this level of motivation continues on Sunday, and the rest of the playoffs for the dubs.

and they better, because the Rockets flew into town tonight to practice at Oracle while the Dubs were down in LA.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 27, 2019, 04:18:40 PM
Lets see the first round... Warriors in 5, Rockets in 6, Thunder in 6, Nuggets in 5.  Bucks in 4, Celtics in 5, 76ers in 6, Raptors in 4.

Lets see how I did... Warriors in 6, Rockets in 5, Portland in 5, Nuggets in 7,  Bucks in 4, Celtics in 4, 76ers in 5, Raptors in 5.
I got most of them right for the winners but I got a few correct in the number of games.
Round 2 currently I say Warriors in 7, Denver in 6, Bucks win in 6, Raptors win in 7.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Shaymin on April 27, 2019, 08:44:31 PM
/me mutters something about the Toronto sports black swan being the Raptors winning a game 1
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on April 27, 2019, 08:53:17 PM
Looks like it will be the Nuggets moving on to play the Trail Blazers in Round 2. Pity. As much as I want success for Paul Millsap as a former Jazzman, it would be nice to see an actual upset in these playoffs.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 27, 2019, 11:52:00 PM
Bit of a funny recap of the first round.

For BnM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z75PVEFu25o
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 27, 2019, 11:57:51 PM
/me mutters something about the Toronto sports black swan being the Raptors winning a game 1

Drake was spotted wearing the Sixers jersey though....
that may play in Toronto's favor.


I just saw the ending to that Nuggets Spurs game 7.... smfh
I think Pops gonna retire. I think the players on the court just wanted to go home.

Down 5, 26 second left in regulation of game 7 on the road.
.....and you don't foul.
Pops is on the court screaming at them to foul. The few Spurs fans in attendance and everyone at home had to be yelling "foul him!!". Yet they let the clock run down.... get the rebound, and then don't even bother to get a shot off at the end.

I didn't watch more than 5 minutes of this 7 game series, but it looks like either team would've gotten routed by any other team in the playoffs.... East or West.
If only the Dubs had taken the 2nd seed. LOL. Easy 1st round sweep.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on April 28, 2019, 04:40:00 PM
Help me out, Warriors fans.

I didn't understand the reffing of Warriors v. Rockets, where three point shooters clearly weren't given space to land. I'm not a fan of watching Harden bait for fouls, but this game showed a consistent change from how calls have been made for the past couple of years and clearly in favor of one side. Were shooters pushing their feet forward too far, because it didn't look that way.

Seems like a gift for the Warriors after a tougher-than-expected series against the Clippers.
Curious to see what the last two minute report states.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on April 28, 2019, 04:46:57 PM
Help me out, Warriors fans.

I didn't understand the reffing of Warriors v. Rockets, where three point shooters clearly weren't given space to land. I'm not a fan of watching Harden bait for fouls, but this game showed a consistent change from how calls have been made for the past couple of years and clearly in favor of one side. Were shooters pushing their feet forward too far, because it didn't look that way.

Seems like a gift for the Warriors after a tougher-than-expected series against the Clippers.
Curious to see what the last two minute report states.

The game is being officiated like this because the Rockets' opponents are the Warriors. Harden was certainly getting those calls before this series, for better or worse. ticky-tack fouls where the shooter draws contact are his entire game.

The League wants Boston or Golden State to be the NBA Champion, and that's how these playoffs are going to be officiated.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 28, 2019, 08:38:41 PM
That **** happens to Curry ALL THE TIME.
Now while it was clear Klay committed this 3 times in garden, what they didn't replay ad nauseum was how often it happens to Curry, Klay and Durant, yet they're is never a call.

I'm glad CP13 got called for the 3pt flop where he stuck out his hip and then curled into fetal position in mid air looking for the foul. Ref wasn't having none of that ****... not from him. not today.

Other times the shooter is kicking out the feet to make contact. And I'll admit again, Klay clearly crowded Harden on 3 of those shots. But they didn't call them on both sides. What you didn't see was then calling out the Rockets for how often it happened to the Warriors or repeatedly showing replays of this happening to the Warriors too.

But just look at who was announcing, and you can see why there was a clear bias to the commentating.

edit: This is also the Playoffs, so all that regular season wolf tickets being sold for Harden and CP3 foul hunting calls ain't gonna get as much play in the post season.
But if they ain't gonna call it one way, then don't call it the other way either.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on April 28, 2019, 10:55:43 PM
Watching Harden freak out because he's not getting foul calls fills my heart with joy.

Dude literally threw his feet beyond the 3 point line into Draymond on the play where Paul got tossed. It's like he completely forgot the refs were overcompensating for screwing up in the first half and were grinding the game to a halt even as Durant was destroying them. Great job by Paul taking himself out of games and getting dumb techs as if the spirit of Draymond has invaded him.

I love how the narrative is "the NBA wants a Boston/Golden State Finals" and not "Houston built a 50+ win team on the back of two people who are constantly exploiting ticky-tack foul calls and it's come back to haunt them".

Anyway, I can't wait for game 2 where even the slightest bit of contact will be called and at least 3 superstars will foul out. Because that's how NBA playoff games should be decided.

EDIT: Also the worst part of the game wasn't the officiating. It was hearing Marc Jackson and JVG complain about the officiating.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on April 29, 2019, 04:24:56 AM
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But if they ain't gonna call it one way, then don't call it the other way either.

Full disclosure, didn't watch the full game as I was doing a lot of of stuff with my family at the same time.
However, I did see at least one instance where Houston got away with a similar foul on three point shooters.

I don't really buy into the "league agenda" narrative, despite being a Toronto fan. (Does any team feel as consistently put upon as the Raptors? They built a whole identity on being outsiders.)  However, I found the officiating in this game pretty terrible overall and a huge shift from what has been considered normal.  If reports are true that refs admitted to Houston that they missed 4 calls at the half, it only makes the whole thing stranger.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on April 29, 2019, 05:31:40 AM
Watching Harden freak out because he's not getting foul calls fills my heart with joy.
But, Soren, Harden just wants a fair chance from the refs. (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26629518/rockets-harden-wants-fair-chance-refs)
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I mean, I just want a fair chance, man. Call the game how it's supposed to be called, and that's it. And I'll live with the results.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on April 29, 2019, 06:13:38 AM
Maybe it's because I only caught the replays, but it looked like there were some obvious fouls not being called.  Sure, there was the time when Harden seemed to extend his legs pretty far, but the others looked like pretty clear fouls.

The tech on Draymond was pretty stupid. Did he just curse at a ref? Was that it?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on April 29, 2019, 06:54:37 AM
Watching Harden freak out because he's not getting foul calls fills my heart with joy.
But, Soren, Harden just wants a fair chance from the refs. (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26629518/rockets-harden-wants-fair-chance-refs)
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I mean, I just want a fair chance, man. Call the game how it's supposed to be called, and that's it. And I'll live with the results.

"I can't believe the refs aren't giving me the benefit of the doubt after I've spent the last few years tricking them into giving me favorable calls."

Yes, the game was an officiating nightmare. That doesn't mean I have to feel bad for Harden. And I would say this even if I wasn't a fan of the Warriors, who by the way look intent on blowing their last shot at an easy championship.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on April 29, 2019, 07:29:40 AM
I was just joking. Harden, of all people, complaining about officiating is absurd.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 29, 2019, 07:34:07 AM
reap what you sow.

All the NBA talk shows are talking about the officiating non-calls.
lots of them all agree the first 3 by Klay were fouls, but the majority of the ones after that were exaggerated to get Ref attention, a under closer review may have been good non-calls.

NOt that I watched that many this morning, saw some clips on youtube, but
Some talked about how that's how Harden and CP3 get through the regular season, foul hunting

so most have no sympathy for the exaggerations. but do caution against another "Kahwi Zaza" situation going towards either team.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on April 29, 2019, 04:18:25 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26634745/rockets-audited-18-game-7-say-finals-bid-taken

Houston publicly humiliating themselves now and I could not be more for it.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 02, 2019, 06:39:23 AM
Holy ****..... I knew Steph hurt his finger in the game on Tuesday, but I had no idea it was a dislocation :/

that looks bad. I've never see a dislocation like this one.

(https://i.imgur.com/lvFEVTB.png)

Good thing it was on his non shooting hand. And that still didn't stop him from reaching and swiping all game. LOL
He gotta find a way to stay out of foul trouble. We need him on the court.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on May 02, 2019, 07:23:00 AM
I regret clicking into this thread and viewing that picture of Curry’s finger.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 02, 2019, 09:12:44 AM
Just remember all that bitching by the Rockets in game 1 about dangerous non calls? Calling it fair? Living with the results?

This was also Rockets in game 1:
https://mobile.twitter.com/warriorsworld/status/1122652755292672001/photo/1

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5R2uKvUcAAJllH?format=jpg&name=small)

This is why you don't take the bait from the boy who cried wolf.
This shot happens to Curry so often, he already adapted to landing limp to avoid injury.


 
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on May 02, 2019, 09:48:20 AM
I was like "I hope someone doesn't post that photo of Curry's fucked up looking finger" before clicking this thread.

-thinking emoji-

That being said Draymond is looking fit and ready to defend which, whew, was not expecting it to happen 4 months ago.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 02, 2019, 01:19:08 PM
Dray supposedly lost 23lbs since ASB till playoffs.

oh, and the pic is now on the previous page. remind me to quote it later so it is at the top of this page aswell.:P
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 02, 2019, 07:27:01 PM
Can I rewind back to the whiney ass Rockets again for a second....

just wanted to share this pic from Game 1.
It shows how hard they trying to trick the Refs for fouls, and why they of all teams have no room to complain when they don't get calls.

The last pic (not the finger. lol) I posted was of harden trying to Zaza-special Steph Curry. Not even trying for the ball... just positioning himself under the shooter.
Just remember all that bitching by the Rockets in game 1 about dangerous non calls? Calling it fair? Living with the results?

This was also Rockets in game 1:
https://mobile.twitter.com/warriorsworld/status/1122652755292672001/photo/1

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5R2uKvUcAAJllH?format=jpg&name=small)

This is why you don't take the bait from the boy who cried wolf.
This shot happens to Curry so often, he already adapted to landing limp to avoid injury.

Here is Harden lawn chairing Draymond.
(https://i.imgur.com/WhHZm2I.png)

you can see Harden's take off spot, how he jumped forward, but then kicked his legs out for the contact at the end. Draymond approached, and landed at the 3pt line, where Harden had to reach a lil further to make the contact. Refs did not fall for the BS.

edit: and Game 2....
CP3 trying to Zaza Special on Klay
https://streamable.com/ucxar

Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 02, 2019, 09:51:20 PM
Game of Zones S6E3
https://youtu.be/cTU8iRdwfGc

Game of Zones S6E4
https://youtu.be/6SGvnwsbf88
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 04, 2019, 10:03:41 PM
So the Rockets won tonight and they looked like the more complete team I was kinda expecting them to be with the hussle, paint and 3 pt buckets and being better defensively. The Warriors are still up 2-1 but this could be a turning point for the Rockets.

In other news it looks like the Suns have found a new coach in Monty Williams for 5 years. Looking like he is going to be their coach to help with the team and the Suns new draft pick going forward.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 05, 2019, 03:30:24 AM
you trippin.

Curry was an absolute embarrassment tonight.
from the missed 7 layups and self rim checked dunk, Steph is the reason the Dubs lost the game tonight. I left the house dub'd up tonight and i had to explain the bullshit that went down tonight several times..... i was embarrassed for the warriors tonigh.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 05, 2019, 03:35:35 AM
I need this shirt....

(https://preview.redd.it/xs6oleka69w21.jpg?width=768&auto=webp&s=f87d73bce43605007146d2cb6eb00c7e9deb8431)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 05, 2019, 11:37:51 AM
Warriors lost last night in OT.

But they shouldn't have. Curry literally missed 6 layups and a wide open uncontested dunk
Curry **** the bed this game. I expect the Dubs to blow out the Rockets on Monday. There is absolutely no way Curry can be THAT bad 2 games in a row.
Surprisingly, Draymond was great. The game started off good, and then at one point, from the last 3 minutes of 1st to into the first 3 minutes of the 2nd the Warriors only scored 1 point. Went from up 9, to down 9, and then played catch up for the rest of the game.
Curry will be making Shaqtin a Fool after this one. for the blown dunk alone, but also for all the missed layups too.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 06, 2019, 09:05:36 PM
Time left in Warrior game!? 11.1 seconds.

11.1 = 3x1's
Houston has 111pts....
111 = 3x1's

not so sure about this..... 3-1 is a haunting number for Steph and the Warriors.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 06, 2019, 09:55:45 PM
you trippin.

Am I now that it is tied up now with 2 games a piece?

I think the bench is going to make a difference in this series. Yeah the Warriors starting 5 is really great but I think having those few extra players are going to make a difference.  I also think that rebounding is going to play a strong role in this series. I think the Rockets have more energy.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 06, 2019, 11:19:33 PM
another game the Warriors shouldn't have lost.... but it came down to rebounds, and not even attempting to get them for 80% of the game.

Literally, 4-5 offensive rebounds that lead to a few extra buckets, and a few defensive rebounds that prevent a few extra buckets, and that basically wins them 90% of the games they lost.

There is seriously no effort on rebounds. no box outs. everyone just retreats to defense once a shot goes up, unless they're named McKinney or Jerebko. Half the time, a Warrior or 2 just need to stick around for 2-3 more seconds, and the ball would literally bounce right to them.
or instead of ball watching and retreating, find a body and box them the **** out. FUNDAMENTALS.
it's part of the damn game. they better stop waiting till the game is almost over then trying to fight for the offensive rebounds. Game coulda been won earlier if 1-2 just kinda hung around, and maybe if just 1 actually tried to position themselves for the rebound.

Cousins would've been so damn handy in this series. He slows us down, but the brotha can rebound and score in the paint.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on May 07, 2019, 01:46:08 PM
Not gonna lie, after a rocky start, this series has begun to make me happy.  I'm thinking this can go to 7 and basically would've come down to the officiating in game 1.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on May 08, 2019, 05:07:53 PM
https://deadspin.com/the-lakers-bumbling-courtship-of-tyronn-lue-appears-to-1834626082

I honestly don't know who's worse. The Lakers for this ****-show of a coaching search, or Lue thinking he deserves championship $$ cause he rode LeBron's coattails to a championship.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on May 08, 2019, 05:19:45 PM
I wish I had any skill worth $6 million a year.

EDIT: Let me rephrase this - I wish I had any skill someone was willing to pay me $6 million a year.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on May 08, 2019, 06:46:21 PM
https://deadspin.com/the-lakers-bumbling-courtship-of-tyronn-lue-appears-to-1834626082

I honestly don't know who's worse. The Lakers for this ****-show of a coaching search, or Lue thinking he deserves championship $$ cause he rode LeBron's coattails to a championship.

I dunno, only one other coach has gotten LeBron to the promised land.

I personally think they should've just paid him what he wanted.  Get the guy LeBron likes so that there's at least some appeasement.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 08, 2019, 06:59:23 PM
LeBron is staying out of the coaching decision and the Ty Lue deal fell apart over contract disputes and who the front office wants for the assistant coach.   Sigh.... Jason Kidd

So now they are looking for a second round of head coaches.  https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2019/5/8/18537579/lakers-rumors-lionel-hollins-frank-vogel-mike-woodson-jason-kidd-juwan-howard
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 08, 2019, 07:25:23 PM
So it is looking like the Bucks are going to advance to the Conference finals. Kyrie didn't show up and things are in doubt for him returning to the Celtics this season. Maybe he teams up with Dyrant in New Yourk with Zion if they get the first pick. He could also join the Lakers or Utah to help along things for both franchises.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 08, 2019, 10:17:32 PM
Well Klay, Curry and Durant showed up this game and they won. I would look concerned about the right calf strain on Durant going forward if I were the Warriors. That would be 2 major injuries this post season if Durant goes down.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 08, 2019, 11:10:16 PM
Warriors were REBOUNDING. Offensive and Defensive rebounds.
the 2nd chance attemps put us up almost double the Rockets score early on and left us with a 17pt lead at one point.

They relaxed on the effort during the 3rd, and the Rockets got back in it.

I mean, Durant got the ball stolen by Tucker(?) who was falling out of bounds in the corner. instead of putting on the press and forcing him to make a bad pass, he just immediately retreats to the backcourt.
Majority of offensive rebounds dried up as the Warriors relaxed in the lead coming into the 2nd half. that's where things got close.

But i'm really glad Curry stepped up after Durant got hurt. He really gotta stop playing Beta to Durant's Alpha. They are supposed to be Alpha1 and Alpha2.
Durant is supposed to make this easy, not just possible, and Curry decided to be what we needed him to be and that was more aggressive.

Good win, but it never should have been so close.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 08, 2019, 11:59:16 PM
Hats off the Green and Looney for getting in there for the rebounds.

Now if Durant is down for the series then they are going to have to fall back to some of the key pieces to that 73-9 team like Curry, Klay, Green, Bogut, Iggy, Livingston, Looney but they aren't going to have as good of a bench that that team had so they may need to wrap up series quickly if they want to advance to the Finals.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 09, 2019, 06:32:49 AM
They said it was a right claf strain... but he was grabbing just below calf, in the achilles(?) area.
Hopefully he is good to go for the next game, as I really don't want to push this to 7.

Blazers Nuggets looks to hopefully go 7, so Warriors need to rest up.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on May 09, 2019, 08:25:16 AM
If it's a calf strain he's done for the series. Last time he injured his calf he was out for 7 days. Maybe he plays in Game 7.

This is it for Houston. If they can't beat GS with their main star down, and their two other stars playing like poop they're never going to win it.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 09, 2019, 09:15:51 AM
last time he was out w/ a Calf strain was when? regular season?
This is the playoffs. If he doesn't play next game, and for whatever reason we don't win game 6, if he's capable of playing in game 7, he will play.

But as long as Curry steps up and Klay can hit some shots, along with Dray and Looney continuing to chase rebounds on both ends of the court, I think we'll be fine. Just gotta watch out for Eric Gordon, he is the one that keeps Houston afloat, as we keep giving him open looks and he's been nailing them.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on May 09, 2019, 10:19:26 AM
Kinda disappointing that Houston couldn't steal a win with KD out, but I doubt he'll play next game, which will stretch it to game 7.  But yeah, KD being out for 7 days the last time he had this injury is worrisome, but who knows how much of that was precautionary.  Sitting out one game is an option, but game 7 shouldn't be.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 09, 2019, 11:25:12 AM
Despite losing Cousins and having Durant out for a game, Golden State is dangerous - this just changes where the threats come from. But it does remove the sense of inevitability with an MVP-caliber player out. Still, I trust Golden State more than Houston in pressure situations. Harden and Paul have fallen short too often to earn trust - they have to prove it on the court.

Any calls in the Eastern conference? Raps vs Sixers tonight should be interesting; I hesitantly said Toronto in 6 before the series started, but it feels like a toss up now. I still think that Raptors should win the series, but game-to-game success depends on which supporting players manage to show up.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 09, 2019, 12:36:14 PM
Despite losing Cousins and having Durant out for a game, Golden State is dangerous - this just changes where the threats come from. But it does remove the sense of inevitability with an MVP-caliber player out. Still, I trust Golden State more than Houston in pressure situations. Harden and Paul have fallen short too often to earn trust - they have to prove it on the court.

Any calls in the Eastern conference? Raps vs Sixers tonight should be interesting; I hesitantly said Toronto in 6 before the series started, but it feels like a toss up now. I still think that Raptors should win the series, but game-to-game success depends on which supporting players manage to show up.

I have the Raptors in 6 now. I think that as of right now the Raptors have things figured out more in regards to consistency and gameplan.  It feels like the 76ers don't really have an answer for Kawahi, Siakam and Lowry all at once.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on May 09, 2019, 12:57:02 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1126569206382829568?s=20

KD will be re-evaluated next week which means he is out for Games 6 and 7.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on May 09, 2019, 03:02:58 PM
Honestly, my support is behind the Nuggets at this point. Not only do they have several former Jazz men onboard (including one of my favorites in Paul Millsap), but like the Jazz the Nuggets are a small market team that's never really had their day in the sun. They earned the #2 spot in a competitive conference. I'd like to see them go all the way.

Plus, a Nuggets vs. Milwaukee Finals would just destroy the NBA head office. :P
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on May 09, 2019, 03:59:02 PM
Kevin Durant out for the rest of the series =

NBA All-Star Challenge Lose Music (https://youtu.be/jTYNzXBYd48)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on May 09, 2019, 07:39:38 PM
So it is looking like the Bucks are going to advance to the Conference finals. Kyrie didn't show up and things are in doubt for him returning to the Celtics this season. Maybe he teams up with Dyrant in New Yourk with Zion if they get the first pick. He could also join the Lakers or Utah to help along things for both franchises.

The Jazz have Favors and Gobert. They don't need another Center unless they decide to not re-sign Favors during the off-season. They really need a premier player at every other position, most notably Point Guard.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 09, 2019, 10:12:44 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1126569206382829568?s=20

KD will be re-evaluated next week which means he is out for Games 6 and 7.

I stay optimistic, as the Warriors have won nearly all their games when Durant was out and Curry was running the ship, vs losing 2/3 when Curry is out and Durant is solo commander.
So chances are, Curry and Klay, just as they did at the end of the game yesterday, show up and remind us why everyone considered them so dangerous yet fun to watch.
As long as Dray and Looney can keep up the rebounding and giving us second chances and Curry and Klay can be productive on offense (no more blown layups), I think we got this.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 09, 2019, 10:20:44 PM
Game of Zones S6 E5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOx2XgmR8Uk
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 10, 2019, 02:41:35 AM
So it is looking like the Bucks are going to advance to the Conference finals. Kyrie didn't show up and things are in doubt for him returning to the Celtics this season. Maybe he teams up with Dyrant in New Yourk with Zion if they get the first pick. He could also join the Lakers or Utah to help along things for both franchises.

The Jazz have Favors and Gobert. They don't need another Center unless they decide to not re-sign Favors during the off-season. They really need a premier player at every other position, most notably Point Guard.

No I mean that Kyrie could join the Jazz in free agency by himself.  The Kyrie, Durant and Zion talk was specifically for the Knicks
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 10, 2019, 02:43:16 AM
I guess everyone loves game 7s and the Blazers and 76ers don't want to go home yet.  They both bounced back for game 6.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 10, 2019, 06:00:49 AM
I guess everyone loves game 7s and the Blazers and 76ers don't want to go home yet.  They both bounced back for game 6.

Ok, I'm an idiot... but how on earth do we embed this in the NWR forums?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ70BkPkANM
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on May 10, 2019, 06:49:46 AM
I guess everyone loves game 7s and the Blazers and 76ers don't want to go home yet.  They both bounced back for game 6.

Ok, I'm an idiot... but how on earth do we embed this in the NWR forums?

"Youtube" in the brackets, take the "s" out of "https".


I don't know why people thought the trail blazers were done.  It was one bad loss in a game 5 where the series was close up to that point. Two games were settled under 5 points and all under 10 up until that point.

Also, not really surprised by the 76ers.  That series is pretty back and forth with big wins.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 10, 2019, 07:30:26 AM
...
"Youtube" in the brackets, take the "s" out of "https".
...

Hmm.. weird. Nothing shows up in my browser so when I tried that syntax assumed it was wrong. Nothing easy, baby!

Agree that it's not surprising to see both series to go the distance; I wouldn't want to place any bets on who comes out either. In a pinch, I'd take the home team, but that's kind of a cop out answer.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 10, 2019, 08:10:12 AM
It's a bug with the YouTube embed plugin, if you're browsing the https version of the forums a properly formatted embed shows up as nothing at all.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 10, 2019, 09:39:14 AM
I guess everyone loves game 7s and the Blazers and 76ers don't want to go home yet.  They both bounced back for game 6.

Ok, I'm an idiot... but how on earth do we embed this in the NWR forums?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ70BkPkANM
I made a thread specifically for these types of problems. ;)

https://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=30575.msg826556#msg826556
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on May 10, 2019, 08:39:09 PM
Bye bye, Houston.

EDIT: I can't wait for the memo they send the league office this time around.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6QZ4n-WkAAlCa1?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on May 10, 2019, 08:42:20 PM
Iguodala choked at the end there. Glad the Warriors held on to win. I just really don’t like Harden’s game. I’d prefer the Sixers advance, but I wouldn’t hate the Raptors winning that series. I’m pulling for the Blazers, and if they win, I’m pretty happy as a basketball fan to see how the rest of the playoffs plays out. Still think the Warriors win it all.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 10, 2019, 08:43:01 PM
Well it looks like the Warriors are advancing to the WCF.  There was a few key turnovers by Harden and there was a 3 pointer blocked that turned things around for the Warriors near the end of the game.  I'll tip my hat to them.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 10, 2019, 08:51:28 PM
Where's that Banana boat!!!

They can finally get that banana boat started since LeBron, CP3, Me7o and D. Wade are all off for the summer at the same time for the first time during the post season. Lol
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on May 10, 2019, 08:52:36 PM
I hope the Rockets complain about this loss and blame the refs and El Niño or something.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on May 10, 2019, 08:55:41 PM
Steph had zero points and the best the Rockets could do was tie.  I should've gone to bed at half time.  The Rockets should be ashamed for making me stay up and also how they played these last two games.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on May 10, 2019, 09:01:19 PM
I'm not going to shed a tear over James Harden and Chris Paul losing out yet again on a championship.

I just hope a team other than the Warriors takes it for once. You know, just for the sake of variety.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 10, 2019, 09:40:52 PM
LOL

If I was on my computer rn, the memes that need to be posted right now.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 10, 2019, 10:39:00 PM
https://streamable.com/ao8ey <----click

watch the above first. LOL






(https://i.imgur.com/QFzr3GI.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/0jKIhCo.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/FAJqcIV.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/V46i6qZ.png)

Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 10, 2019, 11:34:09 PM
Durant to be back for maybe game 1 or 2 of the Conference finals and guess what....

(https://i.imgur.com/2X543Mh.png)

....assuming we make it that far (of course)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on May 11, 2019, 12:06:29 AM
This roster is so destroyed. Shaun Livingston scored double digits for the first time since January. Kevon fucking Looney is playing spot minutes. -checks notes- Alfonzo McKinnie has played every game so far.

This is truly the last Championship GSW realistically has a chance to win.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 11, 2019, 07:35:52 AM
I question Kerr's coaching at time as there was a point in the game where Kerr had this lineup on the floor....

(https://i.imgur.com/OLgmvIY.png)

So it's not like the Rocket's didn't have many chances to win this game.
but you know the Rockets when it comes to the Warriors in the post season...
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-01-2018/wTRx2d.gif)

but then again...
(https://i.imgur.com/FUPTPwn.png)

what do we know.... it can't be all luck.

I mean, if Curry ain't got no points in the 1st half, Klay only 21pts, and Durant ain't even playing....
yet you only manage to tie the Dubs at halftime (57-57).... that's better than best case scenario for the Warriors. Cause for 1, we still managed to score 57 points!!!!

Kevon was series MVP as far as I'm concerned. He stepped the **** up. REBOUNDS, hell, he was out there dribbling and making plays at one point. He showed that he actually has a little game in him. I was shocked. I think the Rockets were a little shook too.
Kerr went 11 deep into the bench in the 1st quarter.... who does that!?
The Rockets have to feel bad about this one. it should have been a first half blow out, but our bench actually came through and held it down out there while Curry tried to figure it out

(https://i.imgur.com/cWwIO8N.png)

and it was well deserved, because his 2nd half of 3rd thru 4th quarter performance was amazing.
https://streamable.com/nbki2  <-- Some 4th Qtr Steph
There was one point where he hit his hand... and I don't know if you saw his dislocated finger after last game, but that **** was not looking healthy at all. He had it taped to 2 other fingers for this game. and he still managed to shake and bake and hit big shots right up till the end.

Curry, in the last 5 minutes of the game, actually scored just as much as the Rockets, by himself 16:16.

But a lot of credit goes to Klay too, as the Splash Bros (and Iggy 5x 3ptrs!!) made it rain in Houston last night.
Klay held it down in the 1st half, and hit a dagger late in the 4th as well. MaxKlay incoming!!

https://twitter.com/balldontstop/status/1127058601682432000 <-video of shot at link
(https://i.imgur.com/AJ6T1Uj.png)

Now we get 3 days rest.
(https://i.imgur.com/iik8iiY.png)
Respekt from the Rockets Management.
But they tried..... remember when they said "We just want a fair chance"... :|
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2835689-chris-paul-reportedly-denied-stephen-curry-practice-time-before-game-6
just another reason to continue rooting against CP3 (BAMF)
http://youtu.be/zViXs0E5Di8#t=2m9s

**** CP3 LOL

And it's why Curry yelled "Kick me off the court again, boy!" (https://www.instagram.com/p/BxVdHgODqS0/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=193p999sbsax4) as he celebrated the Game 6 victory with Draymond Green just outside the Warriors' locker room.

"Champions recognize Champions" - Curry giving the Rockets and CP3 shade. LMAO
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/csn/warriors/Chris_Paul_kicked_Steph_Curry_off_court_night_before_Game_6_showdown_BAY-509791472.html

LMAO --> https://streamable.com/skik8 <-- 😂🤣


on the other hand....
I hope Dame and Joker go out and set a new NBA record and go for 6 OT's on Mothers Day. LOL
Warriors are all banged up, we need a few days and a slightly tired opponent. LOL

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Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 11, 2019, 03:22:32 PM
If this is how BnM is going to be after the semis how is he going to be like after the finals? :P

In any case I am pretty excited for the two game 7s tomorrow. I see the Nuggets and Raptors winning out in their respective series.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 11, 2019, 04:42:21 PM
Can  i just say I was very close to making my first gambling bet yesterday, but I didn't know exactly who to call or how to place it in such short notice after I got off work.

Warrior were 7-1 Odds in favor of Rockets beginning of the day.
I was about to put down $500 and I woulda won $3500.

But it's just that I really dislike Harden's style of play and CP3, so by extension, The Houston Rockets. All the **** they talk, the hypocritical and petti actions they take, and the flopping... OMG the got damn flopping. To see them win anything is to award the worst of modern basketball.

Whatever happens after we have beaten the Rockets happens. This was just the series that had to be won for us no matter what. I'm not discounting whoever comes next.... but Houston was the team that openly structured their game to dismantle ours. Not that theirs anything wrong with that, but with Lebron gone... Houston was our only existing pre-rival threat to get past.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 11, 2019, 04:50:55 PM
If this is how BnM is going to be after the semis how is he going to be like after the finals? :P
...

He'll probably be pretty quiet, after the Warriors lose to the Blazers in 5 games during Conference Finals.
(Haha. Blazers are great, but I see NO possible future where that actually happens. I do look forward to a Warriors/Bucks match up though.)


As a long-time Raptors fan, I'm dreading Sunday. Great season, but futility in the playoffs is all I know. Sure, things are different with Kawhi. But until Toronto proves otherwise, it's hard to believe things will be that different... check out percentages on open 3s during this series to understand. Visions of Carter pulling up at the end of game 7 vs Philly have been haunting my dreams all week.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 11, 2019, 05:49:07 PM
Not gonna lie, as a Dubs fan, I was HYPED for the Warriors v Rockets series.
We all knew it was gonna happen at some point.

Everything else outside of the actual finals is regular basketball. Warriors needed to exorcize the "Boogie man" from under the bed.
We'll see how the rest of the playoffs play out.

I'm looking forward to tomorrow's games tho.
I haven't seen a full game from either series yet, but I plan to tomorrow.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on May 11, 2019, 06:00:57 PM
But it's just that I really dislike Harden's style of play and CP3, so by extension, The Houston Rockets. All the **** they talk, the hypocritical and petti actions they take, and the flopping... OMG the got damn flopping. To see them win anything is to award the worst of modern basketball.
That's pretty much how I view Rockets basketball and why I actively root against them these days. I'm at the point where I'm tired of seeing one team (the Warriors) win all the time, but at least I can defend their style of basketball. Curry's handles/shooting, Thompson's shooting form/defense etc. are *chef kiss*

On the other side, Harden and Paul flopping and "drawing fouls" by forcibly tangling their bodies into the opponents' makes me not want to watch those games. I know everyone saw Warriors vs. Rockets as the "real" championship of the post-season. I'm just glad it's over, and that the Warriors pulled it out even though this really should have been a sweep.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 11, 2019, 06:22:36 PM
Watching the Warriors continually win is sometimes boring.
But watching Chris Paul lose will never grow tiresome.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on May 11, 2019, 06:48:16 PM
Watching the Warriors continually win is sometimes boring.
But watching Chris Paul lose will never grow tiresome.
That's fair.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 11, 2019, 08:39:51 PM
So it is looking like the Lakers have found a head coach in Frank Vogel with Jason Kidd as an assistant/mentor for Lonzo. While I think that Kidd shouldn't really be in coaching position because he isn't the best coach and other non basketball reasons like his criminal history I guess we are stuck with him.  We are going to need an more offensive minded assistant because Vogel is more defensive focused.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on May 11, 2019, 09:53:17 PM
We are going to need an more offensive minded assistant because Vogel is more defensive focused.
(https://i.imgur.com/Pe1QiBY.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 12, 2019, 03:53:31 AM
I guess that could work. There have been players who do key in on some plays that would work for the team on the offensive end.



In response to the 4th quarter breakdown by the Rockets this video just popped into my YT feed.   It breaks down the 4th quarter and how the Warriors won. 

For BnM:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9fOLuon3Lc
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 12, 2019, 06:25:05 AM
So it is looking like the Lakers have found a head coach in Frank Vogel with Jason Kidd as an assistant/mentor for Lonzo. While I think that Kidd shouldn't really be in coaching position because he isn't the best coach and other non basketball reasons like his criminal history I guess we are stuck with him.  We are going to need an more offensive minded assistant because Vogel is more defensive focused.

I'm ok with the Vogel hire, but a bit baffled at why they bring Kidd in at the same time. It's like they enjoy courting disaster.

When exactly did the Lakers organization become so dysfunctional? Was it ridiculous like this before Jerry Bus passed away, or is it only afterwards that leadership become a sucking void?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 12, 2019, 07:13:05 AM
So it is looking like the Lakers have found a head coach in Frank Vogel with Jason Kidd as an assistant/mentor for Lonzo. While I think that Kidd shouldn't really be in coaching position because he isn't the best coach and other non basketball reasons like his criminal history I guess we are stuck with him.  We are going to need an more offensive minded assistant because Vogel is more defensive focused.

I'm ok with the Vogel hire, but a bit baffled at why they bring Kidd in at the same time. It's like they enjoy courting disaster.

When exactly did the Lakers organization become so dysfunctional? Was it ridiculous like this before Jerry Bus passed away, or is it only afterwards that leadership become a sucking void?
It pretty much started after Dr. Buss died in 2013 and there was that time with Jim Buss was running things and he said in 2014 that he would have the Lakers contending in the Western Conference Finals in 3 to 4 years. Jeanie said that she was holding him to that time frame and at least get to the 2nd round by the 2016/2017 season. That didn't happen and Jeanie took over after that season and things haven't really been that good in the front office aside from getting rid of bad contracts ,that Jim Buss signed, like Mozgov and Deng and rebuilding through the draft and having cap space. 

Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on May 12, 2019, 03:22:23 PM
Well, it appears we have our first upset of these playoffs, as the Trail Blazers defeated the Nuggets in Game 7 to move on to face the Warriors.

Never thought I'd see the day where Enes Kanter, the perpetually useless backup Center when he was on the Jazz, would be a major player in a Western Conference Finals playoff series.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 12, 2019, 04:39:20 PM
Curry vs Curry

And the big topic of discussion in the west will now be: What will Curry parents wear to the games!?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on May 12, 2019, 04:52:32 PM
Warriors. No one like Seth.

No one.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 12, 2019, 07:25:22 PM
Quote
Round 2 currently I say Warriors in 7, Denver in 6, Bucks win in 6, Raptors win in 7.

So those were my predictions for round 2.  Lets see how I did... Warriors in 6, Bucks in 5, Blazers in 7, Raptors in 7.    Now for the Conference finals we have Warriors vs Blazers and Bucks versus Raptors.   I am going to be contrarian and say Blazers in 6.  Finally Raptors in 7.

The WCF are all going to depend on when Boogie and Durant return. If they return in Game 3 or 4 then I see the Blazers winning and if a game 2 and 3 return then Warriors but it will go to 7.   Out East it is hard to gauge because the Bucks have Giannis, Middleton, and Lopez and the Raptors have Leonard, Lowry and Siakam and it is going to see who is going to cancel out each other.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 12, 2019, 07:31:11 PM
Wait... did I just see Kawhi smile?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 12, 2019, 07:38:49 PM
Look at this shot to end the game!!!!
For BnM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icXd6OPakeA
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 12, 2019, 09:06:56 PM
First buzzer beater in a game 7 in NBA history apparently.

and Yes, Kawhi was smiling and being emotive of his general happiness.
But if that's how they gonna play... they bout to have a short series against the Bucks.

MIL in 5 if they keep missing open looks and giving the other team open looks and counting on them missing them as well. Bucks ain't getting down like that this year.

Dubs vs Blaze gonna be a fun one though..
I ofcourse expect them to get handled. like they usually do. Announcers will point out that they were 2-2 for the season... but does that really matter? While the Blazers showed up to prove a point against the Warriors, the Warriors weren't gonna go all out to make a statement to them during the regular season. Dame & McCollum are not to be underestimated once they get going though, especially if they can both do it at the same time. Very similar a threat as the Splash Bros.

In the scenario where Durant is available to play. I say he only returns in this situation (Boogie is not expected till the NBA Finals.... assuming we make it that far):
If Warriors win 1st 2 home games, and win game 3, Durant doesn't return till game 4 (limited minutes - Close out game)
If Warriors win 1st 2 home games, but lose game 3, Durant returns game 4
If Warriors lose 1 of 1st 2 home games Durant returns game 3

I see them wanting to rest him as much as possible, but not extend the series if they don't need to.
Warriors in 5 is my guess, but I think Dubs in 6 is worse case scenario.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 12, 2019, 09:34:52 PM
Look at this shot to end the game!!!!
For BnM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icXd6OPakeA

As incredible as it was.... it wasn't even the first time this season :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0OnvOHXRlw

I feel for Embiid though, as this will be meme'd to death for the rest of his relevance.
(https://i.imgur.com/A1Fc7GW.jpg)

He should have known to cover his face with a towel on the way to the locker room.... live and learn I guess.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 13, 2019, 05:38:20 AM
...
But if that's how they gonna play... they bout to have a short series against the Bucks.
...

I think that the Sixers might have matched up better versus the Bucks, and have concerns about how the Raptors will fare in the ECF. That said, if shooting averages start to regress to the mean then the Raptors could surprise a lot of people -- themselves included, I bet. Percentages on wide open shots during this last series were putrid across the board.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 13, 2019, 05:46:18 AM
...
I see them wanting to rest him as much as possible, but not extend the series if they don't need to.
Warriors in 5 is my guess, but I think Dubs in 6 is worse case scenario.

Tend to agree, although I think (a) they want Durant back on the floor for a few minutes before the series ends to get some time before heading to the finals, and (b) I think you are underestimating how badly Portland wants this.

While ending in 5 games is definitely possible, I like Warriors in 6 this series because I think the Blazers have enough self-confidence and determination to pull a pair of wins - probably one at home and one away?  With Durant out for a few games, the match ups are also balanced enough to be interesting IMO.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on May 13, 2019, 07:16:15 AM
That shot by Leonard was a thing of beauty. The echo of the buzzer as it stops and the ball still hasn't gone in. Incredible.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on May 13, 2019, 10:30:02 AM
https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne/status/1127987986845454345?s=20

Durant's re-evaluation will be Thursday. So he's out for Game 1.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 13, 2019, 07:10:20 PM
...
I see them wanting to rest him as much as possible, but not extend the series if they don't need to.
Warriors in 5 is my guess, but I think Dubs in 6 is worse case scenario.

Tend to agree, although I think (a) they want Durant back on the floor for a few minutes before the series ends to get some time before heading to the finals, and (b) I think you are underestimating how badly Portland wants this.

While ending in 5 games is definitely possible, I like Warriors in 6 this series because I think the Blazers have enough self-confidence and determination to pull a pair of wins - probably one at home and one away?  With Durant out for a few games, the match ups are also balanced enough to be interesting IMO.

a) is why I stated Durant will be back by Game 4 no matter what. Even if we won the previous 3. He will need some live game time before the Finals.
b) Doesn't matter that much to me, as The Warriors led by Curry have swept Dame in the playoffs. 6-0 I believe. Steph shows up and shows out against the Blazers. If Super Saiyan Steph was gonna be activated, I'd expect him to be present in this series for sure.

pre-post edit:
https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/stephen_curry_vs_damian_lillard.htm

Warriors and Steph may have never completely crushed the souls of Dame and the Blazers, but damn does Steph own them.
Dame and the Blazers can "want this" all they want, but until they go out and get it, and not just get it, but take it, from the reigning champs and owners of their soul, it just doesn't matter.

I expect a good, hard played, well matched, but relatively short 5 game series.
Not this year Dame.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 13, 2019, 08:01:03 PM
I disagree, but look forward to seeing how it plays out either way.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 14, 2019, 06:00:23 PM
So the draft lottery just happened and the top 4 is this in this order.  Pelicans, Grizzlies, Knicks and Lakers.

This is the whole order.
1. New Orleans Pelicans
2. Memphis Grizzlies
3. New York Knicks
4. Los Angeles Lakers
5. Cleveland Cavaliers
6. Phoenix Suns
7. Chicago Bulls
8. Atlanta Hawks
9. Washington Wizards
10. Atlanta Hawks
11. Minnesota Timberwolves
12. Charlotte Hornets
13. Miami Heat
14. Boston Celtics
15.Detroit Pistons
16.Orlando Magic
17.Brooklyn Nets
18.Indiana Pacers
19.San Antonio Spurs
20.Boston Celtics
21.Oklahoma City Thunder
22.Boston Celtics
23.Utah Jazz
24.Philadelphia 76ers
25.Portland Trail Blazers
26.Cleveland Cavaliers
27.Brooklyn Nets
28.Golden State Warriors
29.San Antonio Spurs
30.Milwaukee Bucks
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on May 14, 2019, 06:42:51 PM
I love it when teams waste away a once-in-a-generation talent and then get immediately rewarded with a mulligan. I can't wait to see how NOLA ruins Zion.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 14, 2019, 07:15:35 PM
I mean they did clean out Dell Demps from the front office after he rejected the Laker offer so maybe they can work something out.  Question is now is where is Julius Randle is going to fit in with the team?  I mean if everyone stays you have Holiday at PG or SG, AD at Center, Zion likely at PF and Randle at PF too?  Randle is a free agent this summer so he could be on the way out maybe to the Suns for the 6th pick and pieces and the Suns can sign a point guard in the offseason?  However it is looking like despite getting the 1st pick AD is still interested in a trade. 

Who knows at this stage.  I am pretty excited for the Lakers who jumped up seven spots from 11th though. Tankathon has the Lakers taking Jarrett Culver which the SG position is a little bit weak with KCP, Hart and Bullock there.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on May 14, 2019, 11:03:17 PM
So.....did Enes Kanter bet money on the Warriors or what? The Portland bigs acting like Steph can't hit threes wide open coming off the pick-and-roll. This was pretty much a gift-wrapped win for GSW.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 15, 2019, 04:02:11 AM
As the Pels, would you even want to keep AD?  It's not like Zion is the missing piece to make them a contender, and while AD is an amazing player he's also disgruntled and often hurt. I'd rather see them trade for the best package possible and rebuild around Williamson with hard-working players who want to be there, focusing on a strong future instead of hoping to convince AD to re-sign next year.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on May 15, 2019, 04:14:49 AM
So.....did Enes Kanter bet money on the Warriors or what? The Portland bigs acting like Steph can't hit threes wide open coming off the pick-and-roll. This was pretty much a gift-wrapped win for GSW.

No, that's just Kanter being every bit the player I knew him as when he was on the Jazz.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on May 15, 2019, 07:59:01 AM
Actually it looks like this is a strategy Terry Stotts actually considered viable.

https://twitter.com/NBCSNorthwest/status/1128511696140689413

If letting Steph shoot his way out of a slump mid-game was an actual gameplan I think it's safe to call this an easy GSW series.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on May 15, 2019, 08:23:01 AM
The Pels were in bad shape, especially in the early (Hornets) years.  I think the team is gonna get its **** together this time.  I really hope they don't take a wait-and-see with AD.  I like the idea of building around Zion, getting a younger core and extra picks.  AD wants to compete now, and I'd like him to. But we might need to see how free agency shakes out, if Kyrie and KD really do go to the Knicks together.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 15, 2019, 02:08:47 PM
So, someone asked how last nights Warriors v Blazers game went last night.

Well, let me sum it for you in 1 short clip.
https://twitter.com/gswchris/status/1128489697817264128

Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 15, 2019, 05:34:42 PM
I watched the first half of the Warriors game and it seemed pretty close except for Curry grabbing a quick six points in the last 40 seconds due to poor defense.  From the boxscore, it looks like the third quarter was still competitive too. Shame that only one team came out to play for the fourth quarter.

The Bucks/Raps game has just started. I'm worried this first game will be a blowout.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 15, 2019, 07:16:44 PM
I went to the store yesterday and the Warriors/Blazers game was on and in the 3rd quarter and the Warriors were up by 17. Tonights game though is looking close. End of the 3rd Raptors up 83-76.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 15, 2019, 07:19:19 PM
... in the 3rd quarter and the Warriors were up by 17. ...

And that's why a boxscore doesn't tell the whole story?
(Blazers won the third by 3, and it was just a 6 point game going into the fourth.)

Raptors have played well this game. I feel like Bucks will hit a bunch of shots in the fourth and come back though.

--
Dang - it's not over yet, but what a game from Lopez. He was such a great pick up for Milwaukee with his shooting. But until this year I never really thought he played solid defense. Rim protection has been solid.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 15, 2019, 08:32:13 PM
But what the Box score also didn't tell you, is that the Warriors weren't even playing all that hard.
Blazers weren't really challenging them, and the score should've been much worse if that was the level of defense the Blazers were gonna bring on the biggest stage they touching this year ;)

I think the only 3 that didn't get play time during real game time were the bottom 3 on the bench.
Bell, Evans III, Lee.

I'm sure the next game won't be the same. The Blazers were understandably worn and tired having just come off two 7 game series back to back with only a day rest inbetween.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on May 16, 2019, 06:25:08 PM
Kevin Durant will be re-re-evaluated next week after Game 5. Boogie will also be re-evaluated as well. Doesn't look like either will be ready until the Finals.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 16, 2019, 07:21:12 PM
Kevin Durant will be re-re-evaluated next week after Game 5. Boogie will also be re-evaluated as well. Doesn't look like either will be ready until the Finals.

Ah, so they might not be back at all...
*whistle*

Seriously though, Blazers in a good spot at half-time.
Then again, so were the Raptors last night - and that disappeared pretty quickly when the Bucks started romping through the fourth quarter.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on May 16, 2019, 08:40:29 PM
I didn’t watch the game, but the last time I looked at the score, the Warriors were down by eight with less than seven minutes left in the fourth quarter. They won by three. That was your chance, Blazers.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 16, 2019, 08:43:32 PM
Ugh they couldn't hold on to the lead. With 2 mins left in the 4th Blazers were up 6 but that is barely a cushion for the Warriors.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 16, 2019, 09:21:21 PM
I know... they needed a 10pt cushion with only 2 minutes left....

it's crazy to say that and not even have a hint of sarcasm....

It's amazing what a little offensive rebounding will do for your team though.
and Iggy with the snatch on Lillard. LMAO Iggy had to run back to the locker room to dip his hands in ice water.

Good game though. I'm just glad the Dubs saved it for the 2nd half, since I couldn't watch till then anyway.
Blazers may get game 3, but honestly.... it's not really gonna matter. odds are not in their favor.


edit:
Game of Zones S6E6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bBUsXFQzBM
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on May 16, 2019, 09:51:22 PM
It’s a thing of beauty to watch the Warriors still win without Kevin Durant.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on May 16, 2019, 10:08:17 PM
So.....

https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1129235414710198272

GSW probably misdiagnosed KD's injury. Whoops.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 17, 2019, 11:15:22 AM
Instead of a grade 1 (4-7 days)
It's a grade 2 strain (10-20)?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on May 17, 2019, 12:58:26 PM
Warriors got a nice win yesterday and a big lift from everyone. That being said Portland did make the necessary adjustments so it's up to GSW to keep getting Zach Collins in foul trouble so they can feast on Enes and Leonard.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 17, 2019, 06:38:47 PM
Yikes the Bucks are clamping down on the Raptors at the half;64-39. 
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on May 17, 2019, 09:33:03 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/XQjQHfx.gif)

Clamps indeed.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 17, 2019, 10:24:32 PM
That game almost put me to sleep.

Disgraceful, and the commissioner was present.
Cancel the damn series. Substitute in the sixers.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 18, 2019, 08:55:01 AM
...
Cancel the damn series. Substitute in the sixers.

Did you watch the Sixers last series?  I'm not sure that's the answer you are looking for.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 18, 2019, 10:28:13 AM
It might not be, but it's gotta be better than what I was watching yesterday.
It was like YMCA pick up game. Even the Bucks crowd looked bored to death.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on May 18, 2019, 10:31:05 PM
It might not be, but it's gotta be better than what I was watching yesterday.
It was like YMCA pick up game. Even the Bucks crowd looked bored to death.

At this point, the Warriors/Blazers series isn't looking much better.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on May 19, 2019, 06:08:08 PM
It might not be, but it's gotta be better than what I was watching yesterday.
It was like YMCA pick up game. Even the Bucks crowd looked bored to death.

At this point, the Warriors/Blazers series isn't looking much better.

Let's see, Blazers had 1 bad loss, 1 close loss, and 1 absolutely pathetically blown half.  Honestly going for the worst series in the entire playoffs.

Someone explain to me again how the West is the "stronger" conference?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on May 19, 2019, 06:47:54 PM
It might not be, but it's gotta be better than what I was watching yesterday.
It was like YMCA pick up game. Even the Bucks crowd looked bored to death.

At this point, the Warriors/Blazers series isn't looking much better.

Let's see, Blazers had 1 bad loss, 1 close loss, and 1 absolutely pathetically blown half.  Honestly going for the worst series in the entire playoffs.

Someone explain to me again how the West is the "stronger" conference?

The West is a meat grinder, and the playoffs are designed to weaken the contenders so the 1st Seed can slaughter them. That's one of the reason I've never liked the 1-8, 2-7, 3-6, 4-5 seeding system. The Western Conference playoffs have been WAY more competitive than the East's so far, just in terms of wins and losses. Meanwhile, the Bucks have basically sailed to victory since this damn thing began, as basically happens in the playoffs every year with the 1 Seed.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on May 20, 2019, 03:44:36 PM
More insight on where LeBron decided to spend the last of his competitive years:


For BnM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffERoFUVE8M)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on May 20, 2019, 04:10:03 PM
I watched that earlier. Yikes. Lakers should have given Julius Randle that second year. He’s good enough to dump later for an expiring/non-guaranteed contract if they really needed the cap space. Again, just poor asset management. And while I’m not convinced Dell Demps ever seriously considered trading Anthony Davis to the Lakers, having Randle sure would have made the Lakers offer more appealing.

As for LeBron, dude wanted warm weather, a big market, and a max contract. He bet on himself to LeBron James the team to the playoffs. He may have pulled it off too if it weren’t for those meddling kids everyone including himself didn’t get injured.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on May 20, 2019, 04:12:39 PM
Speaking of the AD trade, for those that haven't watched:


For BnM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1etBTh6ygw)

This looks like the last part of the interview:


For MnB (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT0HVhmWfT0)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 20, 2019, 04:39:35 PM
One other thing happened today and that was the Frank Vogel press conference to formily announce him being the new head coach. https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2019/5/20/18618601/lakers-officially-hire-jason-kidd-assistant-coach-frank-vogel-lonzo-ball-lebron-james

Also a bit of the insight on the structure on the Lakers front office going forward. https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2019/5/20/18632959/la-lakers-news-rob-pelinka-front-office-jeanie-buss-kurt-rambis

It is a real shame that the hiring is being overshadowed by Magic today.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 20, 2019, 08:51:25 PM
Sigh.... Darn Warriors even without Durant, Boogie and Iggy they win.   
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on May 20, 2019, 08:52:59 PM
Well, at least the Trail Blazers had the self-respect to put up a decent fight before they got swept. *sigh*
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on May 20, 2019, 09:00:52 PM
If you can call that decent.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on May 20, 2019, 09:29:02 PM
5 straight Finals appearances. It's insane the era that I get to live in.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 21, 2019, 04:51:40 AM
I disagree, but look forward to seeing how it plays out either way.

Wow, was I ever wrong.

Blazers put up a fight and took solid leads into the fourth quarter a couple of times... but then just folded. They were never able to stop the Warriors when it mattered. I know there are reports that Lillard is injured and that the Golden State roster might have a shake up this year, but seeing this sort of result (again) makes you want to see it all torn down and rebuilt. How discouraging!

Congrats to Golden State on romping to another set of finals. I thought they might lose focus for a game, but that's obviously not the case.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on May 21, 2019, 05:09:57 AM
Always nice to get to use this gif.
(https://i.imgur.com/QOL41Ad.gif)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 21, 2019, 08:21:16 AM
I had tickets to game 5.....

I ain't even mad though.
happy to grab that broom one more time. Maybe I make it to the Finals instead.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on May 21, 2019, 09:53:55 AM
GSW got a great game from McKinnie. This was the best possible result and hopefully the team can get KD, Boogie and Iggy full strength in time for the Finals.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 21, 2019, 10:19:14 AM
Warriors vs Blazers are always a good match up.
They always play hard against the Warriros, but just never seem to win.

Curry is now 10-0 vs Dame in the playoffs.
Curry and Dray also both Triple Doubled
and this game never would've gone to OT if it wasn't for Jerebko and all his bricked wide open 3's in the 4th.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 21, 2019, 10:16:35 PM
Series is evened up with the Bucks and Raptors. I do find the team defense from the Raptors on Giannis to be pretty effective in either forcing him to do something or passing out to his teammates and having them beat the Raptors.  Having Leonard on Giannis since game 3 as the primary defender is very troublesome for the Bucks.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 22, 2019, 04:14:55 AM
...  Having Leonard on Giannis since game 3 as the primary defender is very troublesome for the Bucks.

Leonard doesn't look healthy right now, but I agree that this match up (with strong help support from Gasol and others) has been a difficult look for the Bucks so far. It puts a lot of pressure on the role players to hit shots. Maybe going back home will see a better result from their supporting cast.

Nice to see the Raptors back to their normal selves for a game. During the playoffs they've often shot poorly and been far too deferential to Kawhi. Don't get me wrong - Kawhi has done a fantastic job of carrying the team so far, but he shouldn't have to carry the team.

It's been a weird year. Some of the Raptors best ball has come with Kawhi sitting on the bench, as other guys seem to feel more comfortable or empowered on offense. When he's healthy it's like the whole team defers too much and loses their normal identity.



At least it's an interesting series now. Either team could have been up 3-1 if they had played just a tiny bit better, and I'm sure that both feel like they let an opportunity slip away.  I'm doubtful that either team can challenge Golden State in the finals, so this is probably the last meaningful set of games for the year.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 22, 2019, 07:17:59 AM
I think the Bucks match up to the Warriors at least as far as the playstyle goes. Spreading the floor and having Giannis out there.  Defensively I think the Raptors matches up well though.   

All I can say that though is I hope there is more parity this offseason going forward.  Like Durant going East or to the Clippers so things are more balanced. I think the east has been very exciting and balanced with the Bucks, Raptors, 76ers and Celtics being options to win in the east.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on May 22, 2019, 08:27:23 AM
Warriors vs Blazers are always a good match up.

Curry is now 10-0 vs Dame in the playoffs.

Those two sentences are a little contradictory, lol.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 22, 2019, 09:29:30 AM
... All I can say that though is I hope there is more parity this offseason going forward.  Like Durant going East or to the Clippers so things are more balanced. I think the east has been very exciting and balanced with the Bucks, Raptors, 76ers and Celtics being options to win in the east.

Agreed.

Golden State plays beautiful basketball a lot of the time, and I appreciate that... but it's hard to keep rooting for a team that is so clearly and obviously stacked with talent. They enter almost every game as overwhelming favorites to win, and so winning - even at a championship level - has become merely "meeting expectations" rather than a dramatic success. (Watching them struggle to overcome "boredom" isn't enough to keep me engaged.)

Watching the Eastern Conference this year has been a refreshing breath of fresh air, even if the actual basketball hasn't always been as pretty. Even 4 games into the conference finals, it's not clear who is the best team and who will proceed to the finals. I assume the Bucks will, but it's not a sure thing.


Kind of related; I wonder if the stability of the NBA playoffs is entirely a good thing. The best-of-7 format makes upsets rare and results mostly predictable. That makes sense because you do want the best teams to be crowned champions, but how much fun would it be to use early season results act as a round-robin ranking system that determines entry in a quick single elimination tournament at mid-season? I don't know what incentive would make this worthwhile for the players/teams (more money, time off, winner hosts All-Star weekend, who knows?) but it would be awesome for fans and might help to break up the grind a little bit.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 22, 2019, 07:35:19 PM
Warriors vs Blazers are always a good match up.

Curry is now 10-0 vs Dame in the playoffs.

Those two sentences are a little contradictory, lol.

I should rephrase as I mean the Curry Warriors vs The Dame Blazers are always pretty intense games. It's just that Curry always comes out in top.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 23, 2019, 11:31:09 AM
A little video on who would give the Warriors more trouble going into the NBA Finals. Bucks or Raptors?

For BnM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgL9uv8KXF4
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 23, 2019, 01:00:27 PM
Any picks regarding who wins tonight?

Most analysts still seem to be hedging pretty heavily, with a slight preference to the Bucks.

I have a really hard time seeing Toronto take 3 in a row from Milwaukee though...  The Bucks haven't dropped three in a row all year, and their role players should look better at home. Also, Leonard's legs simply don't look right these days. Just watching him hobble around makes me wince.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on May 23, 2019, 01:31:55 PM
Neither Durant or Boogie will be ready for Game 1 of the Finals. But it's at least expected that Boogie will play at some point now.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 23, 2019, 05:16:17 PM
Any picks regarding who wins tonight?

Most analysts still seem to be hedging pretty heavily, with a slight preference to the Bucks.

I have a really hard time seeing Toronto take 3 in a row from Milwaukee though...  The Bucks haven't dropped three in a row all year, and their role players should look better at home. Also, Leonard's legs simply don't look right these days. Just watching him hobble around makes me wince.
I think the Raptors are going to win tonight in part because they really need to because of what type of injuries Lowry and Leonard have currently. At the very least they can afford to lose game 6 and get some time to recover if game 6 is a blowout and they can put all their efforts to game 7.    In any case someone is going to have to win 2 of the next 3 to win the series ,wither it is the next two games or three, someone is going to have to win on the road.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 23, 2019, 05:53:40 PM
Hopefully the Raptors playing like garbage in the first quarter will help diffuse any "2 fouls on Siakam in first 2 minutes by Tony Borthers" conspiracy discussion. Hopefully.  Edit:  Oh wait, and now Brothers has called Leonard for a touch foul - also his second - just 8 minutes into the game. Whatever happens in the game from here on out, fans will be complaining tomorrow...


Fingers crossed the game doesn't turn into a blowout. Then again, I could use an early night.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 23, 2019, 06:04:08 PM
That was a ugly first few minutes for the Raptors. Thankfully the Raptors closed the gap to finish the quarter to only be down by 10. 32-22 to end the first quarter.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 23, 2019, 06:23:16 PM
Oh my... game is tied. Both teams are shooting poorly. Refs seem to have settled in after pissing off fans on both sides.  I can't turn away now. So much for an early night.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 23, 2019, 07:41:20 PM
The defense of both teams are showing up so it is a lower scoring game than usual. 5:25  left in the 4th quarter. Raptors up 89-85.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on May 23, 2019, 07:44:38 PM
Kevin Durant named to All-NBA Second Team and Klay Thompson didn’t make any All-NBA teams. Ew.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 23, 2019, 08:06:14 PM
Wow Raptors win 105 to 99. 

I am kinda questioning near the end of the game why there wasn't a foul called when the Bucks pretty much nailed Lowry after 3 Bucks swarmed Leonard.  That was a swing moment for the Raptors.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 23, 2019, 08:52:16 PM
Kevin Durant named to All-NBA Second Team and Klay Thompson didn’t make any All-NBA teams. Ew.

Klay was pissed. I didn't watch the video yet, but this means he misses out on SuperMAX from the Warriors. They can only offer him the Max.
This means Dray will be balling out next yet to get DPOY or All NBA so he can qualify for SuperMax, but chances are, if Durant sticks around, they'll give it to him instead.


Also this Bucks Raps game..... man, Bucks went for 2pts in 7 minutes, and are lucky the Raptors only scored 12 in that same period of time after being down 10.
Blame the refs all you want, but that's where the Bucks lost that game at home. Right there in the 2nd quarter.

I'm still not sure who I'd rather see in the finals. Kawhi knows what it takes and can be a pest. Giannis is just long as **** and will try to bully us inside....

edit:
Game of Thrones S6E7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXgOUAMtcds

...I have to say that S6 isn't as good as some previous seasons.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 24, 2019, 06:17:59 AM
Wow Raptors win 105 to 99. 

I am kinda questioning near the end of the game why there wasn't a foul called when the Bucks pretty much nailed Lowry after 3 Bucks swarmed Leonard.  That was a swing moment for the Raptors.

There was contact but I don't think they actually "nailed" him, and they probably should have given how the game had been called in the second half instead of trusting a ref to call the quick foul. That said, I'm also not sure how much difference it made. Lowry is pretty reliable at the line in tight games - he hit two free throws right afterwards for example. (Yes, you always take the foul if possible and it's a lost opportunity, but that wasn't the turning point.)

The Raptors haven't been playing pretty ball most of the post-season, but wow can they grind out a win when they want to.

What a performance from VanVleet last night; law of averages kicking in there after shooting 3/25 from deep over a 9 game stretch. He also offered up a great quote during post-game interviews when asked about how the birth of his son might be motivation: "I'm not giving him no credit; it's all me. Y'know, it's all the work I been putting in. ..."  Hahaha, great job dad!
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 25, 2019, 07:31:40 PM
OMG this Game 6 is amazing. Raptors are mounting a comeback in the 4th quarter with Leonard on the bench for some rest.  Very exciting game!! 78 all.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on May 25, 2019, 08:12:30 PM
Gotta say, props to the Raptors for finally making it to the end after so many years of failure.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 25, 2019, 08:16:58 PM
Raptors win and is going to their first Finals in franchise history!!!   
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Shaymin on May 25, 2019, 08:25:25 PM
See? Lebron was the problem the whole time.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on May 25, 2019, 09:02:03 PM
See? Lebron was the problem the whole time.

Here's hoping it works out better for you than it did for us when we made it to the finals against the Bulls, the Warriors of that era.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on May 25, 2019, 09:14:26 PM
Gotta say, props to the Raptors for finally making it to the end after so many years of failure.
Love that backhanded compliment.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on May 25, 2019, 09:24:51 PM
Gotta say, props to the Raptors for finally making it to the end after so many years of failure.
Love that backhanded compliment.

Dude, they've been the joke of the NBA for decades. Those gifs of the Raptors mascot failing exists for a reason. This is like seeing the Washington Generals finally make the NBA Finals.

It's like Final Fantasy X, where the announcer introduces the Besaid Aurochs as a "living, breathing statistical improbability!"

As much as I mock their past "achievements", though, and as much as I pull for the Western Conference, I still want to see the Raptors pull it out and take the championship. Someone other than the Warriors should have it, and the Raptors have endured so many years of mockery. The franchise as a whole has earned it. I just hope they know how to claim it.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 25, 2019, 09:26:37 PM
Gotta say, props to the Raptors for finally making it to the end after so many years of failure.
Love that backhanded compliment.

Just makes it all the sweeter.
(Especially when coming from a Jazz fan.)

I can't remember watching a team that would keep fighting game in and game out like this Raptors squad has. Taking four games in a row from the Bucks was insane, especially considering how many double-digit deficits they had to overcome.

The long-standing Raptors fan in me wanted to turn of the TV and go to sleep after that terrible first quarter... but I just couldn't. This team might not win it all, but they'll never stop fighting and it would be foolish to write them off prematurely.

Crazy.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on May 26, 2019, 05:07:00 AM
@broodwars
No explanation needed. I was serious. I literally laughed out loud at your comment.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Shaymin on May 26, 2019, 07:43:49 AM
So I'm kind of worried about the Finals going 7... because if Toronto's going to win it, it's gonna be in 7. And I'm flying into Toronto early in the morning on the day after Game 7 is scheduled for.

Based on what's happened the last time Canadian teams have made sports championships, I might be flying either into a party or a riot.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 26, 2019, 11:03:29 AM
Damn, no basketball till Thursday.
What will I do with all my free time!?

We coming in "short handed" vs The Klaw, but I'm more worried about how so much rest for the Dubs will affect game 1.

I'm not expecting Cousins nor Durant until atleast game 3, cousins maybe a bit sooner if we somehow lose game 1.

Also it was really loud where I was at. What was happening at the end of regulation? Were the refs/league looking for ways to get the ball back to the Bucks in the final seconds? I could not tell the reason for the reviews in the last minute of the game.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 26, 2019, 12:48:41 PM
I think what happened with the refs at the end is that they were trying to gauge how much time was to be put on the clock after the attempted layup and the shot clock didn't reset after the ball hit the rim and the clock didn't stop and time continued. Basically how much time was left in the game. 

It is about at the 9 min mark on this video BnM. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwyfIlcZXBQ
 
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 26, 2019, 01:01:14 PM
As to the match up for Game 1 it is looking like Boogie, Durant are going to be out for Game 1 with Iggy is probable to start game 1. 

I think these 5 days are going to help Leonard and Lowry to recover a little bit and get ready for Game 1.  I did like the defense that they ran versus Giannis and maybe they can do something like that for Durant when he returns.  In the meantime I think a more perimeter based defense will work with Saikam, Leonard and Gasol being the focal points will be good.
   Gasol on Green, Leonard on Klay, and Siakam on Curry.   
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 26, 2019, 03:03:51 PM
Defensively, the Raptors will be fine. I mean, nobody is going to stop Golden State when they have six All-Stars on the team but Toronto has as good a roster to slow them down as anyone.

My big question is whether the Raptors can score enough points to stay in the game - especially given how poor their outside shooting has been since the playoffs started. Kawhi will pretty consistently get his, but after that it's a bit of a question mark where the points will come from. If Danny Green's shooting finally reverts to mean (ie: he gets silly hot like VanVleet was last series, to make up for the terrible percentages since playoffs started) then the games could at least be fun to watch.

However, I'm not sure that I agree with those defensive assignments. I'd rather see Leonard play as much on-ball defense as possible, and Klay's average time of possession is tiny - catch, shoot, rinse, repeat. Put Green on Klay instead.  Also, I'd rather trust Lowry/VanVleet to check Curry as primary defenders and let Siakam roam a bit on defense by assigning him to someone that isn't a lights-out shooter (ie: like Iguodala).

Also, it's hilarious that being "short-handed" for the Warriors means they can only start four players with a history of being consistent All-Stars instead of having 6 available to choose from. (Yes, Iggy was a perennial All-Star and remains an excellent player. He's clearly past his prime, but still darned effective in his role.)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 26, 2019, 07:02:32 PM
It is looking like NBA free agency is going to start sooner than usual. Moved up from 12:01 am EST on July 1st to 6pm EST on June 30th.   Wonder if Toronto making it to the finals is going to change any plans Leonard has or if he is staying.  If he stays I could see the Raptors being the new Cavs.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 26, 2019, 07:35:23 PM
My "short handed" comment was kinda dual proposed, also referencing to the size of Kawhi's hands.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on May 27, 2019, 06:39:03 PM
Boogie is questionable and Iggy is probable, right?  That makes me think both will be back before game 4.  The Warriors don't really need KD to be stacked, especially if they get either of the other two playing.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 27, 2019, 09:44:32 PM
Iggy is good for game 1,
Cousins and Durant get re-evaluated this week. Neither are expected for Game 1.
Honestly, I wouldn't expect to see either until game 3 and/or 4 @ home.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on May 28, 2019, 07:01:01 AM
Then the Warriors are fine.  Iggy was the MVP when it was Steph, Klay, and Draymond.  I don't think they need the full Death Lineup to close games.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 28, 2019, 08:48:46 AM
Kerr has a presser saying something to the effect of: If this was regular season, I would throw Cousins on the court, give him his regular minutes and let him figure it out on the court in game.

So Cousins is only possibly sitting out game 1 because of match-up/conditioning issues.
if Game 1 doesn't go well, I can assume that Cousins will play to switch things up a little.
However, I DO NOT expect to see Durant touch the court till at least game 3 at the earliest, which is the Warriors first home game this series, assuming he comes back at all.

If we are not performing as expected, i could see them putting Durant out there if he's willing/capable, but they certainly aren't rushing him back unless they need to.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on May 28, 2019, 09:03:38 AM
Warriors are in good shape then.  I kinda wish Cousins was ready to go just because I'd like to see him play.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 28, 2019, 10:35:47 AM
It is looking like NBA free agency is going to start sooner than usual. Moved up from 12:01 am EST on July 1st to 6pm EST on June 30th.   Wonder if Toronto making it to the finals is going to change any plans Leonard has or if he is staying.  If he stays I could see the Raptors being the new Cavs.

Although trying really hard not to think about it - there are more important things over the coming week or two - I really really hope he decides to stay in Toronto. The team should still be really good if he leaves, but not NBA Finals good.

I really like the idea of moving free agency ahead. Starting at midnight made for a silly news cycle; this way things will actually happen during the day (or at least, I assume they will) instead of just waking up to discover what happened the night before.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 28, 2019, 10:41:41 AM
Prediction from Feb 25th:

Cousins still has plenty of time to get things going, and as long as force feeding him shots now doesn't disrupt chemistry there is no harm. Golden State is so stacked, it's hard to see anything really disrupting them without a major injury (or two).

Now it's come true; with Durant and Boogie out, and Iguodala on the mend, Raptors can be that disruptive force and win it all!

(I'm still betting on Warriors in 6 though. Raptors are a better team than anyone Golden State has faced in the playoffs except Houston - and I think Raptors could edge out Houston in a series. I'm not sure that Raptors are better then Warriors unless all their poor shooting since playoffs have started means the law of averages is about to swing viciously in their favor - much like what happened for VanVleet last series.)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 28, 2019, 06:50:44 PM
Prediction from Feb 25th:

Cousins still has plenty of time to get things going, and as long as force feeding him shots now doesn't disrupt chemistry there is no harm. Golden State is so stacked, it's hard to see anything really disrupting them without a major injury (or two).

Now it's come true; with Durant and Boogie out, and Iguodala on the mend, Raptors can be that disruptive force and win it all!

(I'm still betting on Warriors in 6 though. Raptors are a better team than anyone Golden State has faced in the playoffs except Houston - and I think Raptors could edge out Houston in a series. I'm not sure that Raptors are better then Warriors unless all their poor shooting since playoffs have started means the law of averages is about to swing viciously in their favor - much like what happened for VanVleet last series.)

The Raptors will regress to the means and return to former series shooting averages!!! mwahahahahaa!!
vigorously rubs lamp and and says "I wish" prior to above statement
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 29, 2019, 09:11:12 AM
Rockets about to blow it all up!?

(https://i.imgur.com/Yy71ECk.png)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on May 29, 2019, 11:30:27 AM
You might as well if you're the Rockets.  This James Harden/CP3 experiment is a failed one.  I really don't see how they improve unless there's a change in their philosophy of prioritizing drawing fouls over making plays.  But who knows, maybe the right roster move could help them.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 29, 2019, 01:16:43 PM
Well, Harden and CP3 got into after the game 6 loss to the Warriors about CP3 wanting Harden to quick dribbling the air out the ball till late in the shot clock and move it around more. Harden apparently wasn't feeling that.

Rockets owners kept D'antoni on board, but fired all his assistants, and are now BLOWING UP the entire team, with the possibility of even trading Harden.

Rockets missed their window last season, but I don't think they should blow it all up.
I mean they even teasing trading Harden... and all their future picks.

first the Lakers, and now the Rockets.... what a crazy off season this will be. LOL
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 30, 2019, 07:21:01 AM
The sad part is that the Rockets best shot coincided with the Warriors strongest teams. You feel like they (ie: Golden State) just can't maintain everyone going forward and will have to drop off at some point. Durant leaving wouldn't prevent them from being front runners to win it all next year... but would remove some of that sense of inevitability.

It definitely will be an interesting off season though. lots of incredibly talented players who might (or might not) relocate. Some fan bases will end up very happy, and others are sure to be disappointed.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on May 30, 2019, 10:36:45 AM
They're definitely beatable without Durant.  But they'd really have to lose both Cousins (FA) and Iggy (retirement) to not be a 100% sure thing for the finals.  And even then, they would still be favorited.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Adrock on May 30, 2019, 11:23:44 AM
DeMarcus Cousins is active for Game 1 (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26856347/cousins-active-warriors-game-1)

There’s a part of me that wants Cousins to be so good in this series that he (miraculously) wins Finals MVP. I just think it’d be funny if Steph Curry doesn’t win it again.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 30, 2019, 12:50:35 PM
It is going to be interesting with Cousins active for game 1. I imagine that they are going to play 11 to 12 each game till Durant comes back.   Kerr did a interview yesterday basically saying that he played 11 deep to make up for 40 minutes of Durants minutes in the Houston series. Likely going to go 9 to 10 this series with Boogie active for game one I imagine.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 30, 2019, 01:02:18 PM
I have the Raptors winning in 6.  I think defensively the Raptors are going to cause the Warriors a lot of headaches. Should be a good series.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 30, 2019, 04:35:59 PM
I have the Raptors winning in 6.  ...

I want to believe so badly... but need to see the Raptors win a game before I can jump on that bandwagon.
Golden State is just such a juggernaut of a team that I have to give them benefit of the doubt until some weakness can be proven.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 30, 2019, 07:23:01 PM
How many other people are watching the game?
A ten point halftime lead for the Raptors is a pretty exciting way to get started.

Wonderful to see Danny Green actually hit some shots! The guy is hard working and a total class act. The Raptors also have other role players that look very comfortable on the big stage - with VanVleet and Gasol in particular both looking calm and collected. Should be a fun second half.

Hopefully Toronto doesn't feel like they've accomplished anything though. Just ask Portland how much a small lead early in the game is worth...
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: broodwars on May 30, 2019, 07:44:55 PM
Looking at the box score, this seems appropriate for the state of the Warriors right now.

(https://i.imgur.com/DCnYeuB.gif?noredirect)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 30, 2019, 08:05:57 PM
The Warriors could lose the first two games and not bat an eye.

But that gif might be a good impression of Warriors fans if the Raptors find a way to finish strong and draw first blood.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 30, 2019, 08:39:18 PM
For a supremely talented team, Golden State spent a LOT of time flopping and hunting for fouls instead of actually trying to control the game. Raptors definitely deserved this game.  (But wow, can Curry and Thompson ever shoot.)

So... Siakam for MIP has been a popular pick north of the border for a while. He sure didn't seem scared of the big stage.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 30, 2019, 08:50:24 PM
I was watching the game and it was amazing that the Raptors held the Warriors to 21 points in the first quarter. Boogie came off the bench in the 2nd and 4th quarters and passed well in a few instances but wasn't able to get much going offensively. Really only Curry and Klay got going in the game even though Draymond got a triple double. 

I have to say that the team defense all game by the Raptors was so tough even at the end of the game. They did not let up.   I also have to say that the X-Factor for the Raptors was Danny Green and he played superbly.  Lowry did all the little things like taking charges, passing and rebounding.   Finally Gasol and Siakam helped out a load with scoring. Gasol actually had 14 points in the first half and was the leading scorer then.  Siakam just could not miss his shots. At one point he had 10 straight buckets.   
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: Soren on May 30, 2019, 11:19:23 PM
The only thing I have to say about tonight.

(https://i.imgur.com/5qj3xtx.png)
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 31, 2019, 05:24:55 AM
The only thing I have to say about tonight.

Nothing to see here folks, just keep on walking...

Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 31, 2019, 07:17:02 AM
With game 1 out the way, the line between well rested and too rested is hopefully washed away.

Siakim had an amazing game against us, but I think we did a better than decent job on containing Kawhi and not allowing him to get off at any point in the game. Overall, I feel like the Raptors showed up, and the Warriors weren't fully prepared for it.

The Warriors just didn't have any real production outside of Curry and Klay to get over the hump, and all the damn turnovers really kept preventing any momentum shifts. I doubt game 2 goes the same way, so it'll be interesting if Warriors get back to the intensity of play on both sides of the ball that they had in the previous series.

I also bet they start getting Durant in some warm up routines and start practicing him just before game 2, so he's available in game 3. With a Durant on the floor last night and Warriors win this one. just needed someone else to reliably score... or a group of other to collectively score, and we just didn't quite have it together last night.

It's all good though. It's just game 1. There's still plenty of basketball to play going forward.
on to the next one!!!!
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on May 31, 2019, 07:22:30 AM
The only thing I have to say about tonight.

(https://i.imgur.com/5qj3xtx.png)

Drake makes some of the absolute worst tattoo decisions I've ever seen.  He's also an incredibly weird fanboy.

Anyway, I was happy to see the Raptors win.  I worried that if they couldn't win game 1 they'd be at risk for a sweep.  Cousins still has a lot of rust, which I think was a big factor, since he was only able to rack up 8 minutes of play time, leaving a lot on the table for others.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: ejamer on May 31, 2019, 08:02:46 AM
Prior to his recent injury, has Cousins ever played well for Golden State?
The west coast games are usually too late for me, so I haven't seen him enough to judge fairly... but my very limited viewing suggested he never quite looked healthy and/or comfortable in the Warriors system at any point this season. If true, any expectation that he could come back in against a solid Raptors defensive squad and make a meaningful difference seems pretty bold.

Durant is a different matter... but even there, his effectiveness might be tied to how healthy his leg is.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: nickmitch on May 31, 2019, 12:22:57 PM
Out of the 30 games he played, he averaged 16 points and 8 rebounds per game (if I'm reading this right).

Maybe not KD, but he certainly averages better than he played last night.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 31, 2019, 12:26:13 PM
I think the Warriors chances while KD is out relies on how much production they get out of everyone not named Klay and Steph.  I think that the Warriors made runs in game one but they only had the lead 5 times in the game and the last time they had the lead was in the middle of the second quarter. Only quarter they won was the 3rd quarter and that was 32 to 29.  I don't think they have much they can do defensively to stop all the options the Raptors have that can show up to help Leonard.  Saikam, Gasol, Lowry, VanFleet, Green ect.


As to Cousins I am not a super fan of the Warriors but the few times I saw Cousins play in the regular season he did help spread the floor and his passing is solid but he wasn't able to keep up with the pace in transition most of the time so with him out there the team becomes more about the half-court offense and what he can bring for the Warriors there.
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 31, 2019, 06:06:46 PM
With Cousins, I think we have 3 types of offense we run

Curry at point and no Durant = Fast Motion Offense

Durant in game = Partial Motion / Iso Offense

Cousins in the game = Back to the basket post up / partial motion / Iso Offense

If Cousins had played more than 20 games with the team during the season, they may have figured out how to make the 3rd offense flow a little better. Cousins was still trying to find his place and how he can best contribute, and Curry and Durant were too busy feeding him in the post and encouraging him to shoot wide open 3's to just continue doing their own thing and let Cousins find his natural fit in the flow of the offense.


edit: Did anyone notice that Drake was also wearing a Curry Raptors jersey....?
Did Dell or Seth play for the Raptors?
Title: Re: The NBA Thread: Congrats to the Warriors on winning the 2018-19 NBA Finals
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 31, 2019, 07:28:47 PM