Community Forums => General Chat => Topic started by: Gibdo Master on February 08, 2003, 10:07:59 PM
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger
Post by: Gibdo Master on February 08, 2003, 10:07:59 PM
I know there's gotta be some Metallica fans here other than me so I decided to make this topic. Basically Metallica announced the name of there new album which is St. Anger(read:Saint Anger)and should be released on June 10th. Also according to James one of the songs on the album will be titled St. Anger. Hopefully this is a sign that Metallica is moving back to the older days since Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, and ...And Justice for All had title tracks. In an interview with the band Lars was asked if this album would go back to the old days. Lars responded by saying that he didn't like the term going back and rather looked at as they were coming full circle. Basically they've gone so far in one direction and have come back around. He went on to say that the music was faster and heavier for this album.
Metallica will also be going on the Summer Sanitarium 2003 tour with Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, and a couple of other bands who I can't remember.
Click here to read the press release about the album name and the tour. Also I think it's fairly important that you click here and download a radio interview from www.ksjo.com that the band did that talks about the name of the new album, its sound, Jason, and Napster. Okay, this is the interview that I had downloaded from www.98rock.com. It's better than the first one because it's the whole interview instead of being broken up into parts.
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Post by: sequoia on February 14, 2003, 02:36:03 AM
Yeaaaa. THey haven't released any new albums snice re-load. There was S&M and Garage inc. but nothing orignal. And I think the other bands there touring with is Deftones and mudvayne And its coming to detoit, 1 hour from where I live.
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Post by: MetalHead666 on February 15, 2003, 11:55:30 AM
I am excited for the new album, but that tour is terrible. I hope the stage collapses on Linkin park and limp bizkit. The are two of the worst bands in the history of music. I do like Mudvayne though. Met and Mudvayne is almost enough to get me to go. Metallica is my favorite band ever, but I am not going to sit through full sets of LP and LB just to see them play, Ill wait till their fall tour. But if I would go to it I would hit the Detroit one, it is only an Hour away from me as well.
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger
Post by: Gibdo Master on February 15, 2003, 01:28:48 PM
I wanted to let you guys know www.allmetallica.com has samples of two songs that may or may not be on the new album. You can find them by clicking here and then downloading the samples titled "Studio Clip" and "DK Rolls" (they should be the first two). Both of these songs are some of the stuff they are working on for the new album but they are rough drafts so if they even make it on the album they will probably sound different or have different lyrics. As you can tell both songs are faster and heavier although they still have a touch of Load and Reload in them. This wouldn't really bother me as long as they are fast and heavy but like I said earlier these songs will probably sound different even if they do make it onto the album. Out of the two I personally like Dead Kennedy Rolls best even though Shadow's of the Cross is pretty cool too. Enjoy.
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on February 22, 2003, 05:43:02 PM
One thing that's really bothering me is that stupid song they did in collaberation with Ja Rule. That was the stupidest thing ever and they should be severely beaten for it. Other than that, it sounds good. And another thing... Whatever happened to Korn, Ozzy, Disturbed, and Slipknot being on the Summer Sanitarium. I know that Korn has been on it almost the whole time, so what happened to them?
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger
Post by: Gibdo Master on February 22, 2003, 08:42:30 PM
I wouldn't worry about the Ja Rule thing. For one thing Lars and Kirk were the only ones involved in it. James was in rehab at the time. Also they didn't actually make any music for that track. Ja Rule was allowed to listen to and pick some riffs he liked out of songs he listened to and then do his rap thing. Also from my understanding everything they had been working on during 2001 (which is what Ja Rule would have picked from) was scrapped after James got out of rehab in favor of doing heavier thrashier stuff. During 2001 Kirk had commented that the stuff they were working on at that time was a lot like I Disappear. Now however with the stuff they are working on now they have described it as being much heavier than their previous stuff and more in the vein of their original 4 albums.
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Post by: MetalHead666 on February 23, 2003, 06:09:20 PM
Thank god. They need to thrash once again. I have been listening to cryptopsy a lot lately to get my super heavy fix. If you want to hear the greatest drummer on the face of the planet check out cryptopsy, the man has no competition. I recommend the songs, crown of horns, phobophile, benedictine convulsions, orgiastic disembowelment, Cold Hate warm blood(my favorite) and We Bleed
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Post by: Gibdo Master on February 24, 2003, 08:58:09 AM
Well the new bass player has been officially announced. It's Rob Trujillo. You can read all about it by clicking here.
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Post by: Gibdo Master on March 01, 2003, 09:30:29 PM
I wanted to let you guys know about a nice review that was done for St. Anger in the new So What issue. Bernoulli at the www.tabcrawler.com forums posted the review which you can read by clicking here. It should be noted that this is from Metallica's official magazine (So What) and that Jim Murphy (the writer of the review) had won a contest through the mag. The prize was being allowed to interview the band, listen to, and do a review for the new album. This means that there is a chance that Jim Murphy is exaggerating and of course considering it is from a Metallica fan in the official mag it's definitely biased. Still in defense of Jim Murphy he did give quite a few details on the sound. He didn't just come out and say the music rocked he actually went into details about how it sounded. Also he is a member of the www.metallica.com forums and has posted that he doesn't like Load and Re-Load. With those two things in mind I don't think that the review is exaggerated BS which means I'm very excited about this new album.
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Post by: Sean on March 02, 2003, 08:42:57 AM
I think Metallica has sadly been pretty irrelevant for quite a few years now, and a cheesy title like "St. Anger" sort of goes to back this up. I'm not trying to spit in the face of anyone's favorite band, but I think their time has passed. Not a very quanitfiable statement, perhaps, but it's what I've thought about them for years and years. Only the most hardcore fans still defend them, it seems.
Oh, and the fact that Metallica is touring with the likes of Literally Limp Bizkit and Linkin Log Park just goes to prove my point even more. LB has had a few hits, but doesn't anyone else get tired of the teen-angst-I-hate-my-parents-and-blame-them-for-everything rant? Heck, even Fred Durst said last year that he realized all the hate-filled lyrics he was writing were immature. And Linkin Park is very catchy but weak. Down with Nu-Metal! Down with Nickelback! Down with the sickness! ;-)
Oh, and Creed really, really sucks. Just saying.
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Post by: Gibdo Master on March 02, 2003, 09:41:36 AM
I disagree with Metallica being irrelevant. Just because they haven't put out a studio in 6 yrs doesn't mean a band is irrelevant. Also they are still extremely popular. I think it's best to wait till the new album comes out till you say they are dead.
The fact that they are touring with LP and LB doesn't matter. It's not going to affect their music. They almost always tour with whatever is big at the moment and it has never changed their sound. In fact I haven't liked just about any of the bands they have toured with in the past and it didn't affect their music or my opinion of them.
Also James has said the title St. Anger refers to the fact that growing up in a religious family he wasn't allowed to express anger which resulted in him becoming an angry person. Besides lets talk about cheesy titles. How about Kill 'Em All. That's pretty damn cheesy if you ask me. Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, and ...And Justice For All can all be considered cheesy but did that mean the music in those albums was bad? Hell no.
As far as only "hardcore fans" defending them in my experience with Metallica fans you either are a hardcore fan or you don't like them at all. Besides why would casual fans care enough to defend them anyway? That's why they are called casual fans.
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Post by: Sean on March 02, 2003, 06:14:34 PM
I didn't say the albums were bad. I said "St. Anger" was a cheesy title. I also didn't say that Metallica was "dead" but "irrelevant," which is actually completely different. Which is worse is up to you.
But, you back up my point even more--they haven't released in 6 years. I thought you were being sarcastic when you acted like that wasn't a big deal...haha. ;-)
On top of that, I found the last album or so they DID release pretty weak. That's just me. No big deal. I'm not attacking the band, but they are in a bit of trouble, image-wise, as most people seem to see pretty clearly. I hope they have a comeback on their next album and they show a lot of the crappy nu-metal bands how to do what they've been trying to do.
Fair enough? ;-)
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Post by: Gibdo Master on March 02, 2003, 06:41:13 PM
I never said that you said that the new album was bad. I honestly don't see why the 6 yrs thing is so bad. It's not like they have been idle that whole time. They put out S&M in 98, Garage Inc. in 99, and had been touring up until 2001 if I'm not mistaken. So they have not been "irrelevant" for quite a few years now. In my opinion they have actually been pretty busy up until the last two yrs but that is because they have been working on the new album. They started working on the new album sometime in 2001 but had some stuff get in the way like James' rehab, Jason leaving the band, and their families. Once James got out of rehab they decided to start all over again from scratch with the new album which is why it has taken so long. Finally if you are a band like Metallica and have become irrelevant then in my opinion that's pretty much the same as being dead.
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Post by: The Omen on March 02, 2003, 06:52:17 PM
Metallica have always been slow to release albums. 2 years to 3 year average[except for kill em all and lightning]. Lets give these guys a break, i mean they are in their 40's now. They're living legends. That being said, BOB ROCK MUST DIE! he ruined the heavy thrash songs when he produced the Black album, which i rank 5th on their list. Actually, 6th! Garage days is 5th! Bob Rock actually convinced them that they "never sounded like a band", and to" cut the length of their songs" Hopefully, they can regain some magic. Have you guys heard the metallica -mustaine collaberations yet? If not, let me tell ya, they're heavy!
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Post by: Gibdo Master on March 03, 2003, 07:33:08 AM
In a recent interview with Lars he said just about all the songs on the new album are around 6 to 8 mins long. Also the few people you have gotten to listen to it have all said it sounds very heavy and fast. A lot like the 80s stuff. Of course we won't know until they release the album on June 10 or hopefully they will release a single sometime soon.
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Post by: Rancid Planet on March 03, 2003, 08:24:08 PM
Quote Originally posted by: The Omen Lets give these guys a break, i mean they are in their 40's now.
A common misconception about this band is the age of it's members. All three "full" members of the band are 37 or 38.
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Post by: The Omen on March 04, 2003, 02:18:47 AM
I was exagerating a bit with the 40's comment, but you get what I'm saying. They still rock hard on their worst days. ......I downloaded a song called 'Hunger'. Does anyone know if thats on the new album? It says it's Megadeth and Metallica, but I only hear Hetfield singing. Maybe Mustaine on guitar? At any rate, the song is great. Another one is 'sleeping peace'.
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Post by: The Omen on March 04, 2003, 04:06:31 AM
Birthdates:
November 18, 1962- Kirk Lee Hammett
August 3, 1963- James Alan Hetfeild
December 16, 1963- Lars Ulrich
If i'm not mistaken, they will all be 40 by the end of this year. [hammett is already]
I knew they had to be in the 40 range, considering they've been around over 20 years.
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Post by: ThePerm on March 04, 2003, 04:26:27 AM
yes time flies.
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Post by: Gibdo Master on March 04, 2003, 08:31:34 AM
Before you guys get to excited about new Metallica stuff you download off of kazaa you need to know it's all fake. Most of that stuff has been on a kazaa or whatever you are downloading it off of for like 2 or 3 yrs now. It's just some jerks that are taking other peoples songs and labeling them as new Metallica stuff. The only thing that is confirmed to be real new stuff is Shadows of the Cross and Dead Kennedy Rolls which I posted links to samples in my second post.
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Post by: The Omen on March 04, 2003, 11:59:29 AM
Yeah, I hear what you're saying, but it definately sounds like Metallica. I listen to them all the time. So, I 'll be aggravated if it turns out that they're fake. As far as the 2 confirmed, they sound pretty good. Good to hear Lars bashing those drums again.
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Post by: Gibdo Master on March 04, 2003, 07:15:01 PM
Well prepare to be aggravated. The song Hunger is by a band called Eternal Decision. From my understanding they are some Christian band. Besides that sounded nothing like James to me and was kind of a crappy song anyway. I can't stress enough that any song you download off kazaa or any other file sharing thingy that claims to be new Metallica stuff is fake. I'm not trying to be mean or anything I just don't want people to be mislead because of some jerks labeling non-Metallica stuff as Metallica.
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Post by: ThePerm on March 04, 2003, 07:25:06 PM
yeah has anyoen noticed thi. there are a ton of christian bands...and they all get famous for soundign just liek osmeoen else. The only christian band that seems to me to be pretty cool is chavell. I wish most these bands would try to be original and devlop their own sound.
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Post by: The Omen on March 05, 2003, 06:47:25 AM
Hunger=off my playlist...LOL I also noticed theres 2 of the same song, 1 thats sounds like james and 1 that sounds like a james/creed siger hybryd. At any rate, thanks for clearing it up.
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Post by: MetalHead666 on March 13, 2003, 10:43:35 AM
Metallica is probably the last band that will have new material leaked early, it is almost an impossibility since they record in their own stuidio, they dont go to recording studios like most bands.
As for the guy who said they are irrelavent, Is he braindead. Is there any question that millions of people are eagerly awaiting this CD? Not at all? Is ther any question that this album, bad title or not, will easily go platinum? Of course it wiil. Metallica is still one of the MOST relevant bands out there. Who does he consider releavent, good charllote, sum 41, avril lavigne?
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Post by: Dethroned Emperor on March 13, 2003, 11:17:25 AM
following up on MetalHead666's post, metallica is probably the most relevant band in whatever is left of rock music nowadays. will metallica's album debut at #1 upon it's release? yes! and when they go on tour this summer, will millions of fans be willing to shell out $75 a pop to see them play? absolutely! I've seen metallica play 4 times and each show I've had a great time. whether u like them or not, anyone who has seen them, will tell you they put on one of the best live shows, period. and I can practically guarantee that wherever metallica plays, every seat in the house is filled.
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Post by: sequoia on March 14, 2003, 04:27:56 AM
If there are any slipknot fans out there, you might want to concider Living Sacrifice's latest album. They are Christian, but that has nothing to do with their sound. If people cant accept a band because thay are christian(like people I know)is prety stupid. They think the band is stupid and assume the liyrics are duled because they have no cusing. I haven't heard eternal decision in a while but if you want oiginal christian music, POD has been around for over 10 years. And thay have their own sound. Disciple is awsome, so is blindside. And I have never heard anything like East West. Mordafide sound like its been done before. But there will never be a Christian band that will sound like the almighty Metallica.
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Post by: MetalHead666 on March 15, 2003, 06:33:47 AM
In my opinion, Limb Bizkit and linkin parks presence on the bill will only help metallica look better. Think about it, two talentless loser bands play before you and then you come on and play 2 hours of ripping technical metal, it only makes you look that much better.
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Post by: Gibdo Master on March 15, 2003, 08:59:25 AM
Quote Originally posted by: MetalHead666 In my opinion, Limb Bizkit and linkin parks presence on the bill will only help metallica look better. Think about it, two talentless loser bands play before you and then you come on and play 2 hours of ripping technical metal, it only makes you look that much better.
Exactly. For all we know that could be why Metallica is touring with them.
I wanted to let you guys know that www.allmetallica.com has a new sample up. Well actually it's a collection of samples with Shadows of the Cross, Dead Kennedy Rolls, and some stuff heard on the Jump in the Studio (JITS) videos. Just click here and download the St. Anger Studio Mix sample. You can listen to some vocals that was from one of the JITS videos by skipping to 00:39. It's just a short clip but still nice. The most important part though is a new riff that starts at 1:09. Listen to that sick sh!t. This album is going to kick ass. By the way that riff is from one of the latest JITS videos in which Rob and the rest of the band were jammin on Battery, Master of Puppets, and New Sh!t (that's what it's called in the video).
By the way if you want to join JITS just click here and sign up. It's part of the official site and is more than worth the couple of minutes it takes to sign up. Lots of videos, pics, and other things from the studio (hence Jump in the Studio). By the way the video with the new riff is 4 horsemen if you want to watch it. Another good one to watch is the Truheeo video since they jam on Hit the Lights!
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Post by: MetalHead666 on March 19, 2003, 09:48:29 AM
There are some new tid bits about the new album at www.intersandman.com very very reassuring comments.
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Post by: Gibdo Master on March 19, 2003, 06:33:44 PM
Thanks MetalHead666. Wanted to add that Lars had some interesting comments in a recent radio interview.
Lars said some song titles are: St. Anger (of course), Frantic, All Within My Hands, and Dirty Windows. Also there will be 11 songs on the album all between 7 and 8 mins long. He also mentioned that one of the lyrics for St. Anger (the song) are, "'I hang myself, St. Anger around my neck." Something that I thought was very cool is that he said they are definitely considering having Pushead do the art for the album cover.
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Post by: One of a Kind on March 20, 2003, 02:47:26 PM
I'm just wondering. Has anybody gotten tickets to summer sanitaruim tour. There was also was a long gab between the black album and load, either five or six years. From what I've heard and from what Lars and James have said the album will sound very raw. Which hopefully is a good thing. If linkin park and limp bizkit were smart they would take notes on how Metallica plays live because there are not too many bands that are better live than Metallica.
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Post by: Gibdo Master on March 20, 2003, 05:24:23 PM
I've got tickets for the Atlanta show.
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Post by: Koopa Troopa on March 20, 2003, 07:15:57 PM
Quote yeah has anyoen noticed thi. there are a ton of christian bands...and they all get famous for soundign just liek osmeoen else. The only christian band that seems to me to be pretty cool is chavell. I wish most these bands would try to be original and devlop their own sound.
As opposed to what other musicians out there? There isn't much "originality" anywhere. It sounds to me as if you are writing them off for being Christians; disguising your prejudice with a generic, and all encompassing excuse.
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Post by: Gibdo Master on March 20, 2003, 07:44:12 PM
I'm really begging that this not be turned into a religious debate since I really don't want this thread to be closed. I don't like rap. Does that mean I have some sort of secret prejudice against black people?
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Post by: MetalHead666 on March 25, 2003, 08:42:05 AM
Yeah lets not turn this into a religious argument.
I am not going to the summer sanatarium, I am holding off for the fall tour. I cant wait till the album comes out though. And it is bad ass that pushead might do the album artwork, that guy does amazing work.
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Post by: Gibdo Master on March 27, 2003, 07:47:41 PM
I just found out some really cool news. Metallica will be including a DVD with St. Anger showing the band playing all the songs on St. Anger live in the studio. But that's not even the best part. The best part is that the DVD will be FREE. It will come FREE with the regular priced CD. Freaking cool. Click here to read the official article about it from www.metallica.com. Now just try and say that Metallica are a bunch of greedy ass holes.
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Post by: The Omen on March 29, 2003, 04:33:09 AM
Definately cool on Metallica's part. And anyone who thinks they're a greedy bunch, obviously doesn't remember the 80's, where they sold oodles of records without releasing any singles or videos, until 'ONE'. They got their respect the old fashioned way, through constant touring and hard work. They release an album once every 3 or 4 years, so I think if they wanted to, they could release all kinds of filler in between, like 'live at donnington' or sh!t like that. Like what Iron Maiden does, who I love also.
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Post by: MetalHead666 on April 02, 2003, 07:26:01 AM
Also there has been a new review put up on intersandman.com of the first 5 songs from ST.ANGER you may be plesantly suprised. The review isnt from the metallica camp either, it is from a sweedish metal magazine, a they say it is absoulutely brutal, make sure to check out.
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Post by: Gibdo Master on April 09, 2003, 12:59:09 PM
Metallica.com has released the official tacklisting.
The song titles are as follows:
1. Frantic 2. St. Anger 3. Some Kind of Monster 4. Dirty Window 5. Invisible Kid 6. My World 7. Shoot Me Again 8. Sweet Amber 9. Unnamed Feeling 10. Purify 11. All Within My Hands The album clocks in at just over 75 minutes. F#cking cool huh. If you want to read the official news update just click right here. Although the article says the album is finished it's not actually 100% done since the boys are in New York right now and are mastering the album. They will be done mastering it on Friday. From what the news update said at the end I hope we will be seeing album cover artwork soon.
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Post by: MetalHead666 on April 14, 2003, 07:22:36 AM
LArs is quoted as saying the album is the "Loudest Fu*king Album ever"
also...
Metallica are featured in the June issue of Revolver magazine, with a write-up on St. Anger and the events surrounding the band in the past. Here is an excerpt from the article:
St. Anger - loud, complex and unremittingly brutal. The album is easily the bands most purely metalic offering since 1988's ...And Justice For All. Heavy riffs and wicked time changes abound and instruments jump out of the speakers with demonic fury. St. anger is merciless; just when you think a song is heading for an exit, another monster riff comes along and knocks you on your ass!
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 14, 2003, 10:18:21 AM
This *MIGHT* be the real artwork, or at least new logo for the new album. Even if not, it still looks cool to me. Someone posted it on Metallica.com's board, saying this is from the official German Metallica site - click http://www.st-anger.de/_img/logo.jpg. here to see it.
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Post by: Gibdo Master on April 14, 2003, 07:01:56 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Brandogg This *MIGHT* be the real artwork, or at least new logo for the new album. Even if not, it still looks cool to me. Someone posted it on Metallica.com's board, saying this is from the official German Metallica site - click http://www.st-anger.de/_img/logo.jpg. here to see it.
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Yeah, it's kind of like a combo of the old and new logo. It's pretty cool actually. It's better than the plain and simplified Load era logo any way.
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Post by: Gibdo Master on April 16, 2003, 06:49:48 PM
Holy crap Metallica has released the cover art and new logo for St. Anger. The logo that Brandogg gave a link to is in fact the new logo. The art shows a fist very similar to the fist that held the hammer in the ...And Justice For All booklet. Click here and check it out for yourself. I must admit it's different and I'll have to get used to it but at least it isn't semen and blood like on the Load covers. I have to say when I read that Pushead would be doing the cover art I was concerned he would do a skull. I didn't want that since it's such a worn out cliché so I'm happy it's not a skull at least.
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Post by: Gibdo Master on April 29, 2003, 07:09:38 PM
Metallica.com has released info about the first music video for St. Anger. The video will be for the song St. Anger and filming for it will take place in San Quentin State Prison. Click here do get the full details. I can't say I'm too happy about the type of scum that get into San Quentin being allowed to hear St. Anger before the rest of us but oh well.
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Post by: The Omen on April 30, 2003, 07:33:44 AM
That commercial on MTV for the icon show on the 6th, got me hyped up. It plays old Metallica, and a collage of people with Metallica cds...its really well done. Even though its MTV. I cant wait for this cd to come out!
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Post by: Dethroned Emperor on May 02, 2003, 11:07:55 AM
I agree with the omen, that is a great spot for the metallica icon show. excellent choice using "damage inc" as the background track. the artist I'm most looking forward to seeing on the icon show is avril lavigne, anyone else?
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Post by: The Omen on May 02, 2003, 12:46:45 PM
I'm just hoping Linkin Park doesn't butcher any songs. ..and Avril lavigne...i wish she would just 'disappear'....Why not have Korn do a song? They usually do a cover song in concert anyway...I know they did a great version of 'Disposable heroes' last time I saw them..
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Post by: Dethroned Emperor on May 02, 2003, 01:32:02 PM
korn is doing a song, but I doubt it will be "disposable heroes" unless they find a way to trim it down. it would be awesome if someone covers "motorbreath" but I don't think that's likely.
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Post by: The Omen on May 02, 2003, 04:06:43 PM
Listening to '...and justice for all' today....man I miss these guys
Thats cool Korn is doing a song. I usually dont like 'new' metal, but they kind of started that sound, so i've come to appreciate them a lot. I hope they do 'Hit the lights'. But another song they did live was 'the thing that should not be', very briefly though. Everytime i've seen them they've done at least one Metallica song.
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Post by: Gibdo Master on May 02, 2003, 09:14:55 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Dethroned Emperor I agree with the omen, that is a great spot for the metallica icon show. excellent choice using "damage inc" as the background track. the artist I'm most looking forward to seeing on the icon show is avril lavigne, anyone else?
Yes, so I can laugh my ass of when she attempts to do Fuel. Yep, it's been confirmed that she will be singing Fuel at the show. Supposedly when asked about the song Avril said something like this, "it's a really long song". HAHAHAHA. She apparently has never listened to Metallica before in her life because Fuel is a relatively short song for Metallica. I don't know where it came from but someone on the metallica.com boards said that Lars made a comment that compared to some of the people MTV were having them chose from Avril was death metal. MTV must have given them some truly crappy bands to chose from then.
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger *UPDATE: Music Video Info*
Post by: Dethroned Emperor on May 03, 2003, 05:40:02 AM
rob halford once said that sum 41 was the next great heavy metal band, LOL. unfortunately, they too will be performing on this icon show. I can only imagine how much they paid rob to spew such nonsense. avril lavigne doesn't have the pipes to do most metallica songs, I think it'd be pretty hilarious if she tried to sing something like phantom lord, or anything off of kill 'em all. next thing u know, justin timberlake will be onstage talking about how much metallica influenced him to get into the music business, blecch!!!
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger *UPDATE: Music Video Info*
Post by: The Omen on May 03, 2003, 08:19:26 AM
SUM41? Ugh....and Avril doing Fuel is a joke. at least she wont disgrace any real classics.
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger *UPDATE: Music Video Info*
Post by: Dethroned Emperor on May 04, 2003, 06:29:56 AM
just saw the setlist over on allmetallica.com from last nite's "icon" show: sum 41 - for whom the bell tolls/enter sandman staind - nothing else matters avril lavigne - fuel snoop dogg - sad but true (appeared to be high during his performance) korn - one limp bizkit - sanitarium metallica - hit the lights/enter sandman/blackened/creeping death/battery (medley) metallica debuted "frantic" from the "st. anger" album to close the show.
all covers were abreviated to fit everything in to the 90-minute show for mtv, which airs tuesday at 9.
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger *UPDATE: Music Video Info*
Post by: Gibdo Master on May 06, 2003, 05:51:26 PM
HOLY SH*T!!!! Did you guys catch the end of Icon. I can't wait for this album. It was very heavy and fast. For those of you who don't know the song they played at the end of Icon is Frantic off of St. Anger. There's a lot of people pissed that MTV cut off the song but don't worry. Metallica actually only played half the song according to people who were at the recording of the show. On the other hand I still think they cut it off a little bit though because some people were saying that one of the lyrics was "Frantic tic tic tic tic toc" and I didn't hear that so who knows. Hopefully it will be up on the net soon so everyone can download it.
The lyrics that I could catch were:
If I could get back my wasted days back I'd use them to get back on track
You live it or lie it
At the end he was screaming:
My lifestyle determines my deathstyle.
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger *UPDATE: Music Video Info*
Post by: Gibdo Master on May 06, 2003, 06:16:23 PM
If you want to download the song someone at the metallica.com boards has kindly posted it. Just click here and then click on the link on the first post. Be warned though that the boards are very flooded right now so you may have to wait a little while.
EDIT: Damn it. Looks like the mod deleted the topic for some reason. Pisses my off too. Why did they have to do that? At least I got to download it. HEHEHE. I'm sure it will show up some place else eventually though.
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger *UPDATE: Frantic on Icon*
Post by: The Omen on May 06, 2003, 06:52:21 PM
Frantic sounded great. I can't wait for this album. I'm getting my tickets for summer sanitarium tomorrow. July 12th...metal up your ass!
Korn did justice to 'one'. All in all, a good show.
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger *UPDATE: Frantic on Icon*
Post by: Gibdo Master on May 06, 2003, 07:06:18 PM
Here's another go at this. Click here and then click on the link that says, "DOWNLOAD FRANTIC FROM MTVICON". It's kind of a messed up recording since it was playing out of both speakers and they were out of synch with each other. I would just put the balance on one speaker or the other.
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger *UPDATE: Final album art details*
Post by: Gibdo Master on May 15, 2003, 08:10:16 PM
Click here to see some shots of the finalized album art as well as some shots of the inside art. This is some crazy sick sh#t. It's now clear that the angry fist represents St. Anger. The reason why is the one of the lyrics for St. Anger the song is, "I hang myself, St. Anger around my neck" or something like that and the art shows the fist around the red corpse's neck.
Once your done drooling over the art you can go to allmetallica.com and click on the link that says, "Commercial Clip May 13" to hear some new stuff from St. Anger. It's even better and heavier than what was played of Frantic at Icon. Very reminiscent of Master of Puppets.
Click on this link to hear a new clip from the song St. Anger with lyrics. James screaming, "and I need to set my anger free" game me the god damn creeps. This album is going to be great.
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger *UPDATE: Final album art details and new song clip*
Post by: MetalHead666 on May 17, 2003, 12:18:15 PM
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger
Post by: Gibdo Master on May 27, 2003, 10:17:36 PM
Okay, so the video of St. Anger has been shown to the world and the single version of the song (edited for time and content) is being played on the radio. Basically I just want to see people discuss the song. Even non Metallica fans are welcome.
As for my own opinion I'm still a little unsure. It's definitely heavy. Maybe even the heaviest thing they've done depending on how you look at it. The song is actually pretty good but it's definitely not perfect. For one thing it's basically a 4-5 min song that they played 3 times. Also lyrics wise this is definitely their weakest song as long as you ignore Kill 'em All. Great album but you have to admit some of the lyrics are very campy and corny.
Anyway the lyrics come off like the Metallica boys sat around in a circle and wrote down one liners and then tried to force them into a song. It clearly doesn't work. Yes, looking at each line on its own there is some good stuff there but it just doesn't work as a whole. By the way for those of you who don't know the entire band wrote the lyrics for this album not just James which is what usually was done. It really shows too. At least in this song anyway. I think this is the one thing that is most upsetting for me. Not being a musician or musically minded the first thing that attracted me to Metallica was the lyrics. Metallica's lyrics (again ignore Kill 'em All) have always been deep, intelligent, poetic stuff especially when you consider other bands of the same genre. So to have a song full of nothing but one liners is disappointing. Again great one liners but they just don't work as a whole.
The song is really too repetitive. It really should have only been 5 mins like the edited single version. A lot of songs have that part that they repeat but coupled with the fact that there is no solo it really is annoying with St. Anger. The worst part about it though is that it almost sounds like they just copied and pasted the beginning part. When I first heard about the no solo thing I didn't really think much of it. Yeah, I was shocked but that was about it. After hearing a whole song without a single solo I understand now why a lot of people were having fits over it. The song could really use a solo or two to break things up a bit.
Okay, so other than those complaints I still think it's a good song. Each time I listen to it it grows on me a little more. Frankly with this song I don't think Metallica was trying to make another Master of Puppets or For Whom the Bell Tolls. I think what they wanted to do was just make a heavy assed song that you could bang your head too and if that is the case they definitely succeeded.
As for the rest of the album I do think that Frantic will be better. From what I have heard (I heard a bad quality boot leg from the Fillmore shows) it seems to be more of a normal Metallica song and I do think the lyrics are better on this one. Just like with St. Anger though it comes off as a little repetitive (no where as bad as St. Anger though) but I think that's mainly because of the lack of a solo. Well seeing as how I have only heard Frantic and St. Anger in full I can't say anything about the other songs so that's all.
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger
Post by: The Omen on May 28, 2003, 08:45:08 AM
I wish i could comment, but i refuse to listen . I want the music to be fresh when i get the CD, and the radio often ruins it for me. I have heard Frantic once, and really liked it. I think it all comes down to what Metallica you compare it to-the pre-'90 Met., or the '90s Met. It compares quite favorably to the 90's Metallica, but of course it will never be as acclaimed as the good ol days. I'm happy with the direction they are going, however.(from what i've heard)
You are right about the lyrics, they always were the first thing to grab my attention and set Metallica apart from the others.
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger
Post by: MetalHead666 on June 03, 2003, 11:54:06 AM
Well I have heard all 11 songs off ST Anger (I did the streaming video treasure hunt that met has goin) and let me just say, the other 9 songs kick frantic and St anger's asses. All within my hands is so kick ass it isnt even funny, Invisible kid= Incredible. MEtallica is definately back, this cd is gonna own, make sure you get a copy you wont regret it.
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger
Post by: Gibdo Master on June 03, 2003, 02:11:36 PM
Hey, MetalHead666 could you give me the link to the site with Some Kind of Monster. I heard it's a lot like The Thing That Should Not Be which is one of my favorites from Puppets. Out of the few I've heard from the treasure hunt All Within My Hands and Unnamed Feeling (Unforgiven killer) are my favorites. Yes, I too am extremely excited about this album. After hearing them off a crappy stream and liking them I can't wait to hear them off the actual CD.
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger
Post by: The Omen on June 03, 2003, 04:32:40 PM
I have my CD pre-ordered...can't wait.
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger
Post by: Dirk Temporo on June 07, 2003, 06:26:02 PM
So far it seems like the title track is the worst song on the CD. <----My opinion. Frantic was better, and the other song I heard part of on the radio before I shut it off to listen to Blind Guardian sounded okay.
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger
Post by: The Omen on June 11, 2003, 08:08:56 PM
i like this cd so far...only listened to it about 5 times...but it gets my adrenaline pumping so far,,which is more than i can say for their last two offerings. Final review in 2 days. I will say i dig it right now, though...
EDIT: I've now listened straight through the entire cd about 10 times, and i love it. I'd go as far as to say its their best since Justice. Yes i like it better than the Black album, so far anyway. I think it sounds like a mix between Justice and Load. The lack of guitar solos leaves me a little perplexed, as i love Hammett, but thats the only thing i dont care for. And even that doesnt detract from my overall enjoyment. The Cd sounds really rough, in a good way, like they just jammed and didnt care about making it perfect, which i really like. In oither words , it isn't overproduced. My initial score, as of now, is 8/10. I think in a month or so, i'll be able to judge it more thoroughly.
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger
Post by: warZone on June 21, 2003, 07:41:24 AM
St. Anger sucks plain and simple. the opening track Frantic sounds like Metallica goes Slayer, which would not be a bad thing, but the guitar is way too undertuned, the riffs go from decent to absolutely stupid, drums sound like Lars is on drugs banging kitchenware. I listen to the cd again and again and everytime i hear the opening track going about searching, searching, tick, tock, must be about searching for a good song on this cd, but its a waste of time. I know it sounds like a cheesy pun but thats the thought that occurs to me for real. Sorry to say that cause I have been a fan since 1986 and I was hoping Metallica going back to basics and reinventing themselves, what they said before release, would be something that would blast all this Load Reload 89347185 minutes long stadium massive dinosaur boring horse **** to oblivion.
Metallica started going wrong with the Black Album with too many monster riff songs (albeit many half good), got totally confused and stripped down excess confusion now they're just confused. St. Anger should have been some kind of after-release for their next GOOD cd, for the fans to see how they jammed into some cool stuff that didnt end up on the album but laid the basics for Their new killer album... which I hope will follow. There's some good raw stuff on St. Anger that just never got processed to anything resembling a song, and I think just like all great artists usually make a blunder and publish something experimental that isnt ripe yet... this is Metallica's... hope it leads to a masterpiece later.
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger
Post by: Wesisapie on June 21, 2003, 04:31:54 PM
Tosh. St Anger sucks the big one.
I haven't heard any of their others, but that one just plain stinks.
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger
Post by: Dethroned Emperor on June 22, 2003, 08:31:57 AM
St. Anger stinks! I've listened to it a handful of times, and I'm having trouble picking out any songs that are memorable. this album might be their best in a decade, but that's not saying much. it isn't even as good as the black album. the best reason to pick this one up is to get the access code to the audio vault, so u can d/l all their live mp3s. if St. Anger sounded as good as the last slayer album, I'd have no gripes. metallica should quit while they're ahead, and avoid tarnishing whatever is left of their once-proud legacy.
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger
Post by: GCNMasterX on June 22, 2003, 11:56:41 AM
St. Anger is an awesome album on Metallica's part. My dad owns the CD and I burnt it; I listen to it alot of the time. The songs are kinda loong though..
Title: New Metallica Album: St. Anger
Post by: The Omen on July 01, 2003, 05:32:51 AM
It is better than the Black album, and by tarnishing their rep. sice Black, they needed to just get back to having fun in the studio, thrashing. As for the songs being too long, when Metallica is good, their songs have always been long.
If you haven't heard any other Metallica cds, why would you start with this one? Go back and start from the beginning, not the end.
And its coming to detoit,
1 hour from where I live.
