Post by: Pikkcuber on July 15, 2004, 10:33:27 AM
Post by: Jale on July 15, 2004, 10:36:11 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 15, 2004, 12:01:37 PM
Post by: Djunknown on July 15, 2004, 04:19:07 PM
Post by: Mumei on July 15, 2004, 04:24:07 PM
Post by: Zach on July 15, 2004, 05:19:05 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on July 15, 2004, 09:52:35 PM
Post by: 3rdrocket on July 15, 2004, 11:11:24 PM
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/groups/nintendo_ds/
Post by: Blaster009 on July 16, 2004, 09:05:39 PM
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I find the game release dates on the EB games website very confusing
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/groups/nintendo_ds/[/q
That seriously doesn't make any sense, because according to the site, all the games listed on the site won't be released until three months after the system comes out, the DS is scheduled to be released 18 days after everyone is saying it will be released, and the games are priced at $49.99 when people have been saying they will be cheaper to produce than GBA games...
Post by: Pikkcuber on July 17, 2004, 07:05:44 AM
Post by: SgtShiversBen on July 17, 2004, 07:11:47 AM
Post by: Pikkcuber on July 17, 2004, 07:18:04 AM
Post by: Djunknown on July 17, 2004, 04:30:50 PM
As usual, its best to take rumors with a grain of salt. I wonder if they have spies in the big N to report such things....
Post by: Zach on July 17, 2004, 04:31:05 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 18, 2004, 07:16:32 AM
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Originally posted by: Djunknown
Is this what they meant by affordable? Granted its cheaper than the 'Cube at launch, but still...
They were comparing it to the likely price of the PSP, of course...
Post by: KDR_11k on July 18, 2004, 10:22:53 AM
Post by: Pikkcuber on July 18, 2004, 02:01:22 PM
Post by: Djunknown on July 18, 2004, 04:52:10 PM
Strange logic would say: Double the screens, (nearly) double the price? $40> games wouldn't be farfetched either.
Post by: Renny on July 18, 2004, 05:04:26 PM
Edit: If you want to discuss the article, there's already an unnecessarily heated debate here.
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on July 18, 2004, 07:10:50 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
The DS is scheduled for a 5 November release in Japan and a 11 November release in NA. I'm not sure where I heard that from.
Possibly from GCAdvanced - that's where I got it from; they update at least four to five times a day with news tidbits not usually available on other places (even weekends; they had an interesting story yesterday involving Kirsten Dunst), tons of DS news there, not trying to advertise, but if you're crazy about DS, head there.
I believe someone at E3 told one of the uninvited ppl (who paid 300 smackeroonies and posted this online) that Metroid would be a launch title. EA Sports has confirmed that Madden 2005 will also be a launch title...that's all I know for sure, though.
EDIT: In response to whoever said 180 dollars was unaffordable, I agree it cannot be considered affordable, but hard-core gamers (people who actually take the time to even find websites like PGC) will go for it. Other, casual gamers, who play games for fun (the good ol' days...), will shun both the DS and PSP, not thinking about production cost, or marketing at all, and say "why the hell would i wanna buy teh diss oops ds or a piss-s-p i did teh it again psp when they cost more than teh consoles im gonna buy teh xbox whazaaaaaap."
Of course, casual gamers don't really talk like that.
Post by: Blackknight131 on July 19, 2004, 02:46:50 PM
If its any consolation for you folks who feel its just out of your price range: who wants to bet the DS is in line for a price cut to $150 right around the time a certain disc-based multimedia portable game ssytem is due to hit the market?
-Blackknight131
Post by: Mumei on July 19, 2004, 03:32:48 PM
Post by: Renny on July 19, 2004, 04:07:43 PM
Post by: Blackknight131 on July 19, 2004, 04:24:40 PM
Are you saying the actual conversion is more along the lines of a $150 price point? Because I just read about it on Gamefaqs and everyone thus far has reported a figure around $180 after conversion...
-Blackknight131
Post by: Renny on July 19, 2004, 04:43:50 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on July 20, 2004, 12:14:50 AM
Post by: Blackknight131 on July 20, 2004, 01:31:58 AM
It is a huge relief to me if the DS games wont go the way Sony seems to be taking the PSP, i.e. the $40-50 per game territory.
-Blackknight131
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 29, 2004, 07:23:20 AM
Metroid Hunters: released around the same time as the Gamecube game. Having Metroid as your mature game would be smart for Nintendo.
Mario DS: Nintendo must have a Mario game upon release. It is essential.
Wario Ware Inc: Now that they have the demo running this game is easy to program and release quickly, and it can use all its features to create a multiplayer game to highlight the systems promises.
Nintendo Puzzle Collection: Somebody else wrote about how this game hasn't been released in the US yet. Rather simple games to translate into DS code and release. Hook up basic multiplayer gameplay, and use the Microphone to chat to the people you play against would be great.
ATLUS GAMES:
At least one game from Atlus will be out for Launch.
EA Games:
Sims the Urbz, and probably a sports game.
Launch is really best time to get some games out and watch them sell. People are excited when they buy a new system and will be more likely to buy additional games. Meanwhile, the competition isn't as fierce either with launch games, because there are not as many. So I expect many companies trying to get their games out ASAP.
Post by: Blackknight131 on July 29, 2004, 04:06:49 PM
Will they actually take time to focus on all the awesome little things the DS can offer a football game, or just throw out a quikie....
Post by: HAY GUYS MY UNCLE KNOWS MIYAMOTO OH NO I'M BANNED on July 29, 2004, 10:28:28 PM
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on July 30, 2004, 03:26:24 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 30, 2004, 05:10:00 AM
Next year is when EA better release a really great Madden game, and the same with all other companies.
I will forgive any company besides Nintendo for making an average game for launch of the DS, as long as they really sink their teeth into the system for the coming year.
Nintendo however better be spending the time and the effort to sell the DS as a true innovation and not a gimmick. They better show the other developers how to use the touchscreen, the microphone, the connectivity everything...and perferably have a games at launch that use every feature, or at least one game using each feature well.
Next, if I was Nintendo I would be showing Capcom, Sega, and many other companies the system and throw as much support at you can to people with new and great ideas for the DS so there is less risk for such company to make the plunge.
If Nintendo does this DS will succeed amazingly well. Remember it is going to have a lead on PSP in the United States. A couple of months exclusive new handheld on the market will do Nintendo great press if it has the games to back it.
Post by: pikpik on July 30, 2004, 05:27:37 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 30, 2004, 05:37:39 AM
A FIFA game would sell better world wide, but it won't sell better in the US. EA is primarily concerned with the United States launch which would buy a Madden game much faster than a FIFA game. In fact the United States would buy a Basketball game before FIFA as well. For some odd reason US doesn't like the football (soccer.)
I really don't care about sports games. So I could careless what games are released.
The only other game besides Madden I think EA could work on and make a great launch game is SSX Snowboarding.
Actually have a great idea for that game, that could be great fun.
Post by: NWR_Lindy on July 30, 2004, 08:14:34 AM
silks
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 30, 2004, 08:50:35 AM
Though, I wonder how many of these games will be able to get out before launch. I would predict that the code to design games is very very similar to that of the GBA so developing engines and such isn't too hard. I hope that the 3D potential of the DS doesn't mean we will lose all the great 2D games that have been gracing the portable screen and not the home market.
If the DS can launch with 10-12 total games at launch with about 25 out by Christmas then I think it will be a success and have very good numbers at launch. If the options are not there for buyers then I think people may wait and see. Nintendo needs to get the money fast. Any wait and see could lead to people deciding to go with Sony.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 30, 2004, 09:44:41 PM
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 02, 2004, 04:43:58 AM
Nintendo already seems to be doing this with Super Mario 64*4. Hopefully they will rename the game Super Mario DS and the game will have the entire Super Mario 64 portable, but also have the multiplayer functions with all the Mario 64 levels. That would make the most killer launch game period.
Then the new 2D Mario Game could come out as Super Mario World 3 or Super Mario Brothers 4, and have a huge ad campaign about the franchise finally coming back to its roots.
We do finally have a list of what 3D party games are being worked on. We should probably expect one of those games from each company around launch or just after.
This is exciting because this system seems to be coming together nicely.
Post by: Deguello on August 02, 2004, 05:30:45 AM
It's roots as what? A platformer (Sunshine)? A 2D platformer (Mario Versus Donkey Kong)?
Post by: NWR_Lindy on August 02, 2004, 08:49:35 AM
The PSP will have Gran Turismo and Metal Gear Acid, but GT is a Sony franchise anyways and Metal Gear has been associated primarily with Sony for practically a decade. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a DS Metal Gear at some point...since Hideo Kojima designed Boktai and there's already a DS Boktai game in development, Kojima is obviously going to be working with the system. I'd love to see what he could come up with on the DS.
I dunno, but could gaming be entering another golden age? I haven't really felt this optimistic about the industry since the early 90's.
silks
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on August 02, 2004, 09:14:50 AM
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Even with limited 3D capabilities I see developers taking advantage to make quick ports of old 3D games to the system.
Nintendo already seems to be doing this with Super Mario 64*4. Hopefully they will rename the game Super Mario DS and the game will have the entire Super Mario 64 portable, but also have the multiplayer functions with all the Mario 64 levels. That would make the most killer launch game period.
Then the new 2D Mario Game could come out as Super Mario World 3 or Super Mario Brothers 4, and have a huge ad campaign about the franchise finally coming back to its roots.
We do finally have a list of what 3D party games are being worked on. We should probably expect one of those games from each company around launch or just after.
This is exciting because this system seems to be coming together nicely.
Hmmm...if you're referring to "The NEW Super Mario Bros." that was shown at E3, it looks pretty 3 dimensional to me...if you're calling it 2D simply because it's a sidescroller, that can be misleading...
Post by: Jale on August 02, 2004, 09:15:26 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 02, 2004, 02:03:53 PM
Silks: Oh I completely agree. Nintendo needs to get the word out as quickly as possible about actual games coming out. I look occassionally on the PSP sites to see what games are coming out. Nothing interests me. Nothing. Now I read about the Nintendo DS, and even sequels to old franchises are exciting me, because I wonder what companies are going to do with the additional DS features. Everyone is saying the touch screen is gimmicky and won't work. But it doesn't have to be used with every game. Its still an additional screen, and that shows plenty of new game options in and of itself.
kirby_killer_dedede: Oh I am sorry. Yes I know the models are being used are 3D. Actually I am slightly disappointed in that, but still from what little Nintendo showed us, they seem to be obviously teasing us with a 2D Mario type game. I am sure there is going to be some crazy gimmick gameplay with the new touch screen, dual screen aspect, but really if its a 2D or 21/2D sidescrolling Mario action game I will be happy, and many other gamers will be happy as well.
This year has turned out to be one of the most promising looks into video game history in while.
Silks was right, we are looking at a potential new golden age of gaming. Finally 3D games are being made capably, and with amazing graphics, and innovation is once again creepying back into industry. What could be better?
Post by: Deguello on August 02, 2004, 02:06:02 PM
I daresay some of the later MvDK levels involve a lot of action AND split second timing.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 02, 2004, 02:42:24 PM
http://www.dengekionline.com
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Originally posted by: passerby from beyond3d forums >70 titles that are scheduled to be released in Japan only, so this excludes all developers outside Japan. I sure if we add in the US and European devs, the list can hit 100+
Anyway, all title names are still unconfirmed, so titles are subjectable to changes. Some katagana I can't twist around well enough to figure out. Abbreviate with ?.
IDEA FACTORY
Spectral Force
AKI (?)
1 - (?)
ATLUS
Game of LIfe
Shin Megami Tensai
3 - (?)
ARUZE
some puzzle game
EPOC (?)
some action game
MTO (?)
Everyone's Mahjong
racing game
CAPCOM
Rockman X series
Viewtiful Joe series
Baseball series (?)
GAMEARTS
a RPG
GENKI
a detective game
Killing High, Killing Low
Kaido Battle
KOEI
Shin Sangoku Musou
Historic Simulation
Mahjong
KONAMI
Yu-Gi-Oh! NIGHTMARE TROUBADOUR
Goemon
Survivor Kiss (?)
Vandal Heart (?)
Boktai
Baseball game
Castlevania
Winning Eleven Series
SAMMY
Fist of the North
SUNRISE INTERACTIVE
Simulation game
JAMSWORKS (?)
Board game
SQUARE_ENIX
Egg Monster Heroes
New FFCC
DrakeMonsters (?)
New Legend of Mana
DQ "slime monster" game
SPIKE
some adventure game
SEGA
Sonic DS
Project Rub
TAITO
Magic Pengel series (of course! this adapts beautifully!)
Puzzle Bubble series
CHUNSOFT
Mysterious Dungeon series
D3 PUBLISHING
some action game
TECMO
new Monster Farm
Team Ninja project
TOMMY
Naruto
Zoids
NAMCO
new Mr Driller
new RPG
PacPics (?)
1 - (?)
HUDSON
Bomberman
Tengai series
NINTENDO
Super Mario 64x4
Metroid Prime Hunters
Mario Cart DS
Animal Forest DS
New Super Mario Brothers
Pictochat
Nintendogs
BANDAI
Gundam SEED (what else? I'm so sick and tired of the milking)
One Piece
Metius (?)
BANPRESTO
Dragon Ball Z (see SEED comment)
MAVELOUS INTERACTIVE (?)
1 - (?)
the farming series - can't remember the english title.
fishing game
new RPG
YUKES
sports game
ROCKET COMPANY
adventure game
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 04, 2004, 05:07:56 AM
Mine are:
1)Brain Twisting Game Vol. 1 (A fun collection game that will appeal to an older audience and have great touch screen support.)
2)Viewtiful Joe
3)Castlevania (A classic and most likely to be a launch game since Konami was able to release one for GBA quickly.)
4)Pac'N Roll. (Another innovative title that mixes puzzle with action and great touch screen support.)
5)Snowboard Kids (Fun arcade sports game.)
6)Metroid Hunters
7)Mario 64 DS
8)MEGAMAN BATTLE NETWORK (A somewhat RPG, and very popular with the younger audience.)
9)Madden Football (Not on the list but you know it is being worked on.
10)Tie: Either Animal Crossing DS or Wario Ware. I would rather had Animal Crossing, but I would understand Wario Ware being easier to create being the next game.)
Post by: g4ever on August 05, 2004, 10:08:15 AM
Now about the launch
The games are unanounced, however I'm pretty sure they will market it as "afordable" as they can but retaining the high $180-200 price tag(which I persanally don't think is unreasonable)
Ok, well the DS at 200 needs something. There will probably be one game and/or pheriphiel to add to the DS for free that nintendo gives you. Now being the chrismas season, there will be giveaways in the adds for pruchasing a DS, or making a $250 purchase. Games will most likely be discounted as well to help get people into the store and interested. So with combining all sales and perhaps percentage back from a retailer reward card you can walk about with a whole in you pocket but a big pile of lauch titles.
Oh and Castlevania is my number one game for the DS I would be happy if Konami gave me a couple new catlvania games and thats all that came out for the system
Post by: Jale on August 05, 2004, 10:21:04 AM
Post by: chain chomp on August 06, 2004, 05:56:57 AM
BEST
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 06, 2004, 06:19:50 AM
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Originally posted by: Jale
Im wondering if the DS will still work with the GC like the GBA does for games like FF:CC. If it does, I will sell my GBA SP. If it doesnt I will have to get the cash some other way.
It would need a separate adapter to attach to the GC, like the Wavebird needs a receiver to work...*bets this will be built into the Rev*
Post by: chain chomp on August 06, 2004, 07:08:17 AM
Post by: Urkel on August 06, 2004, 06:48:33 PM
Number of Surgery games on the PSP: 0
Nuff said.
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on August 07, 2004, 11:58:01 AM
i'm way too excited about the DS
bring on teh wario ware!!!
does anyone know if that Viewtiful Joe will be a new adventure, or is it just a remake (boo) ?
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 10, 2004, 08:52:09 AM
I would love a see how many operations you can perform in a minute style game.
Post by: er111801 on August 10, 2004, 08:56:39 AM
NDS $179.99 USD = $236.51 CAD (Really expensive for a handheld)
PSP $300.00 USD = $394.08 CAD (Really,REALLY expensive for a handheld)
NDS game for $35.00 USD = $45.98 CAD (Not too bad but still pretty expensive)
NDS game for $49.99 USD = $65.67 CAD (Almost as much for a GCN game which is 69.99)
Now lets add taxes,
Where I live in Nova Scotia we have a 15% tax.
NDS $236.51 + 15% = $271.99
PSP $394.08 + 15% = $453.20
NDS game for $45.98 + 15% = $52.88
NDS game for $65.67 + 15% = $75.52
So too get a DS and one game(at lowest speculated price) is $271.99 + $52.88 = $324.87
HOLY CRAP
Anywho, still less than PSP by like $170 CAD.
Post by: Jale on August 10, 2004, 09:34:47 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 10, 2004, 10:50:04 AM
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
I would love a see how many operations you can perform in a minute style game.
I hope not! How many doctors out there do you think see how long it takes them to rush through a surgery? O_O
