Koei, Konami, Square-Enix and Capcom "won't offer new games for the device".
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Post by: mouse_clicker on July 11, 2004, 11:57:07 PM
Wow- this is a huge blow for the PSP. Japan's 4 biggest 3rd parties have all dropped support for the PSP. Square-Enix isn't making PSP games period, while they have, what is it, 3 DS games in the works? Even Sega isn't sure if they can make the launch deadline since Sony hasn't even shipped out final development kits yet. I imagine Sony's stock is going to take quite a hit from this news.
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on July 12, 2004, 12:06:10 AM
No new games, but they're still doing ports
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Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on July 12, 2004, 12:44:01 AM
Looks like the PSP may not be as successful as the Nintendo-bashers think.....
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on July 12, 2004, 01:23:26 AM
Konami are hilarious. Releasing a port of Frogger on the most advanced (from a spec check view, blol spec check) portable hand held thingy ever. I bet they'll scratch their heads raw when it sells like crap.
"WHY DID OUR FROGGER ON PSP NOT SELL TEN MILLION COPIES? WE'LL BLAME NINTENDO ON THIS ONE"
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Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on July 12, 2004, 02:18:23 AM
Of cause it'll be Nintendo's fault when the DS outsells the PSP!
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Post by: Bill Aurion on July 12, 2004, 06:56:43 AM
Wow...I knew about Squenix not really liking the PSP, but Konami and Koei are basically Playstation-exclusive companies! What a blow, indeed...
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Post by: Ian Sane on July 12, 2004, 07:32:41 AM
F*ck ya! No Square-Enix games on the PSP at all? Man that just decided who wins in Japan. And Konami sure is all over the place. "We love Nintendo, no now we love Sony, no now we love Nintendo again." No mention of Namco but I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say they'll release Namco Museum for the PSP.
Let's hope Nintendo can keep this up for the Revolution as well. Without Sony having a head start they could trip them up the same way they're doing here if Sony can't get PS3 dev kits out in time and Nintendo can get Rev dev kits out. Both Playstations had terrible launches so with Nintendo launching at the same time or before they can create an advantage. And if the Rev truly is unique like the DS that's going to help too.
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Post by: KDR_11k on July 12, 2004, 08:23:35 AM
If that's how the battle turns out we can clearly see that brand loyality is a mere illusion. They are only in for the money. Maybe that's because so far the public reaction towards he DS is better or because Nintendo is the current monopolist in the handheld market...
I wonder whether companies like Eidos or EA will favor the PSP. No japanese giants to compete with, they might sell better on the PSP, provided that thing gets a sizeable userbase. Would make the PSP the handheld for XBox fans... I still think there's a chance the PSP will go the way of the NGage.
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Post by: Syl on July 12, 2004, 09:11:50 AM
I'm glad that someone is catching on that the PSP is constantly turning into a worse and worse idea.
Not being able to play MP3's is bad enough, but when the Japanese developers are going "what the hell are you smoking?" you know theres an issue.
I still need to see some games though, from either the DS or the PSP. They have to start pimping the DS soon.
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Post by: Koopa Troopa on July 12, 2004, 09:28:08 AM
Quote F*ck ya! No Square-Enix games on the PSP at all? Man that just decided who wins in Japan. And Konami sure is all over the place. "We love Nintendo, no now we love Sony, no now we love Nintendo again." No mention of Namco but I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say they'll release Namco Museum for the PSP.
Let's hope Nintendo can keep this up for the Revolution as well. Without Sony having a head start they could trip them up the same way they're doing here if Sony can't get PS3 dev kits out in time and Nintendo can get Rev dev kits out. Both Playstations had terrible launches so with Nintendo launching at the same time or before they can create an advantage. And if the Rev truly is unique like the DS that's going to help too.
Well put!
Man, this could be a stellar victory for Nintendo.
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Post by: Darc Requiem on July 12, 2004, 12:24:55 PM
Koopa, Ian always has some killer insights. I'm telling you this guy needs to be a game journalist. The cracks in Sony's armor are widening. Now its up to Nintendo to make use of Sony's growing arrogance.
Darc Requiem
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Post by: Bill Aurion on July 12, 2004, 01:01:09 PM
I wonder whether companies like Eidos or EA will favor the PSP. No japanese giants to compete with, they might sell better on the PSP, provided that thing gets a sizeable userbase.
EA has already gone on the record saying that they are "more impressed with the PSP" (lol, wot?) and considering Eidos' scapegoatage on Ninty, I wouldn't expect much from them either...But for me, that's not really a big loss... ^_~
Now all we need is Ninty to push a just a little bit more on third party relations and they can hit hard next gen...
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Post by: Djunknown on July 12, 2004, 01:43:45 PM
Quote I wonder whether companies like Eidos or EA will favor the PSP.
In Game Informer's E3 issue (yeah yeah, save the GI Sux comments...), when they were getting quotes from developers about the PSP and DS, it broke down like this
DS Japanese Developers:Can't wait to develop for it. Looks promising. American Developers: iTs teH KidDy!
PSP Japanese Developers: We don't know much about it, need more info. American Developers: iT wIll bE teH r0xoRs!
Hate to bash the American developers, but that's what they sounded like in a nutshell. Looks like Sony's taking a few hits, but let's see what happens at Tokyo Games show. Now if Nintendo made an appearance at said show with the DS; who knows? it'll steal some thunder.
On a side note, even almost-Xbox-exclusive Tecmo has some things cooking for the DS; Ninja Gaiden DS anyone?
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Post by: Syl on July 12, 2004, 04:12:41 PM
Tecmo isn't anywhere near xbox exclusive. Just the "Team Ninja" division of it. Tecmo creates far more games than just DOA and ninja gaiden, namely the monster rancher series, along with others.
Monster Rancher DS, i know they'll make it.... wonder if they could somehow use the touchpad in the spawning process...
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on July 12, 2004, 07:13:47 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Bill
EA has already gone on the record saying that they are "more impressed with the PSP" (lol, wot?) and considering Eidos' scapegoatage on Ninty, I wouldn't expect much from them either...But for me, that's not really a big loss... ^_~
Tomb Raider PSP comin' like what. >_>
"Hey guys, play with Lara in your lap" "OH NO HER THREE POLYGON BOX BOOBS ARE STABBING ME" *Game Over okay*
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Post by: Urkel on July 12, 2004, 09:43:34 PM
Wow.
Sony losing support. I never thought I'd hear that.
This makes things a lot more interesting. All that the doomsayers and bashers have been saying is "Sony has a disc based medium and Nintendo has carts. It's PS1 vs. N64 all over again."
Looks like now we can say "It IS PS1 vs. N64. The company with Square wins! LOLOLOLOL!!!!11111"
Am I the only one that sees the irony here? Square (and Enix) is dropping support in favor of the portable that has the smaller medium.
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Post by: KDR_11k on July 12, 2004, 09:57:37 PM
I think S-E know that their CG division will be pretty busy making the home console games already and can't be burdened with handheld games as well... Besides, 1.8G is a bit low for their needs.
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Post by: Ymeegod on July 13, 2004, 01:47:25 AM
Actually most of those developers have projects in the works for the PSP--besides Square-Enix.
What the developers are stating is how they aren't going meet the deadline for the launch since Sony didn't give them amped amount of time.
And sony uses it's own compression called ATRAC3 :0. Why give out royalities when you don't have to. Also, it's not like nintendo's supporting mp3 either.
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Post by: mouse_clicker on July 13, 2004, 02:01:08 AM
Read it again, Ymeegod:
Quote Still, Japan's four biggest independent gamemakers, Konami Corp., Capcom Co., Square Enix Co. and Koei Co., said they won't offer new games for the device.
Sega's the only one saying they don't think they can meet the deadline, the other 4 aren't planning any new games. Square-Enix isn't planning any games period.
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Post by: Syl on July 13, 2004, 05:28:09 AM
I'm curious about how "Metal Gear Acid" falls into "not making any games period"
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Post by: couchmonkey on July 13, 2004, 09:18:45 AM
I think the article accidentally implied there will be no new games from the developers. Look at this quote:
Quote Capcom, Japan's third largest independent gamemaker by sales, plans three games including one based on the ``Vampire Chronicles,'' while Koei plans a game based on ``Dynasty Warriors,'' according to the companies.
Maybe by "based on" they mean ports, but those sound like new games to me (not to mention Metal Gear Acid). I think what the article meant was "no new games at launch".
Even so, a crappy launch lineup is a crappy launch lineup. If a few ports of PS2 games and frogger are all PSP has to go on, it will have a tough first year ahead of it. No Square Enix support is huge, as Ian pointed out. It also goes to show that whatever portion of Square Enix Sony owns isn't enough to influence the company very much. This is exciting news.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 13, 2004, 11:46:09 AM
All the games known to be in the making for PSP (don't know when they are supposed to be released)
Action Girlz Racing (Data Design) Activision Anthology (Activision) AI Series: Mahjong (Marvelous) AI Series: Igo (Marvelous) AI Series: Shougo (Marvelous) Autobahn Crossroads (Resolution) Axel Impact International (SCEK / Axis) Azaya: Jungle Bowl Champions (Jungle Peak) Battle Blades (Data Design) BBG (Seed9) Big Choppers (Eutechnyx) BIg Mutha Truckers 2 (Eutechnyx) Board Game Gallery (Phoenix Games) Burnout (Criterion) Bust-A-Move (Taito) Card Shark 3 (Phoenix Games) Car Jacker (Eutechnyx) Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe (Buena Vista) Cloud of Verruca (Success) Clusterball 2 (Resolution) Crazy Racing Kart Rider (Nexon) Dance Mat Challenge (Data Design) Derby (SCEI) Doraslot (Dorat) Fighting Spirits (SCEA) Formula One 04 (SCEE/Evolution) Free Runing (Eidos) Generation of Chaos (Idea Factory) Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex (SCEI) Habitrail Hamster Ball (Data Design) Harvest Moon (Natsume) Infected (Planet Moon) Intelligent License (Now Production) Joe (HumanSoft) Junior Sports Basketball (Data Design) Junior Sports Hockey (Data Design) Koron (CyberFront) Legend of River King (Marvelous) Mahjong Kakutou (Konami) Mahjong Taikai (Koei) Mercury (tba/Ignition) Metal Shell (Tantalus) Myth Makers Karting (Data Design) Need for Speed Underground (Electronic Arts) Ninja Bunny Warriors (Data Design) Offroad Xtreme (Data Design) Pilot ni Narou (Marvelous) Popolocrois Monogatari (SCEI) Professional Wrestling (Yukes) Project S (Sega) Rig Racing (Data Design) Romance of Three Kingdoms (Koei) RS Revolution (Spike) Shingata (Sunrise) Shin Mojibittan (Namco) Shin Tenmakai (Idea Factory) Sparrow Merit (Success) Sprint Madness (Resolution) Sticky Balls (Warthog) Super Star Studio (Coong) Talkman (SCEI) Technic Cute (Arika) Tengai Makyou (Hudson/Red) TGM-K (Arika) Tokyo Xtreme Racing (Genki) Tony Hawk's Underground 2 (Activision/Neversoft) Transformers (Atrai/Melbourne House) Twisted Metal: World Tour (SCEA/Incog) Vegas Casino 2 (Phoenix Games) Volcanus Online (Zepetto) World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 (Konami) World Tour Soccer 2005 (SCEE/Studio Soho) WRC (SCEE/Evolution) Zero Hour (Argonaut) Zooo (Success)
(info gathered by Hey69 from various sources including magicbox)
edit: I just noticed that MGS: Acid (or whatever its called) isn't on the list
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Post by: mouse_clicker on July 13, 2004, 11:56:06 AM
Quote Maybe by "based on" they mean ports, but those sound like new games to me (not to mention Metal Gear Acid). I think what the article meant was "no new games at launch".
Those games were already planned and the companies are simply following through with them. THey're not planning any new titles until they see how those do.
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Post by: ruby_onix on July 13, 2004, 12:12:42 PM
Quote Square-Enix isn't planning any [PSP] games period.
This is funny and accurate on so many levels.
They DO have one PSP title in the works. Final Fantasy: Advent Children. (OMG, it has Cloud! It's a "real" FF game. Not like that "Crystal Chronicles" crap the DS is getting.)
In fact, Squenix is even delaying their straight-to-video release of the movie until the launch date of the PSP, so that their PSP version won't be utterly useless by the time it comes out.
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Post by: mouse_clicker on July 13, 2004, 12:29:45 PM
As you pointed out, though, Advent Children is a video, not a game- it's kind of funny how a lot of PSP supporters tout Advent Children as one of the reasons it's better.
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Post by: ruby_onix on July 13, 2004, 12:46:54 PM
Yep. But when you think about it, so is every other Square "game" of late, except Crystal Chronicles.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on July 13, 2004, 01:17:40 PM
But you don't even press X every hour or so in Advent Children!
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Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on July 13, 2004, 03:29:13 PM
But isn't the "X" button the default "OK" button. They'd have to press that to start/pause/stop playing the video, no?
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Post by: KDR_11k on July 14, 2004, 02:21:24 AM
FFAC is FF reduced to the basics. And maybeit's the first real FF without random encounters... Naah, wishful thinking.
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Post by: Ymeegod on July 14, 2004, 03:06:49 AM
Or what about the fact that the PSP is getting three games from Capcom? One was an exclusive GC title called Viewtiful Joe :0. Koei's also has three games in developement which are dated for this fiscal period.
Koei's support for the PSP is the exact freaking same as the ds--Dynasty Warriors.
So yeah, there's no games MC. Just keep living in your fantasy world. Hope you like Egg Monster Hero :0.
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Post by: KDR_11k on July 14, 2004, 06:31:33 AM
I think no new games means mostly ports or semi-sequels (GTAVC->GTA3 style).
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Post by: mouse_clicker on July 14, 2004, 11:11:16 AM
Great job repeating yourself there, Ymeegod: So they have games planned for the PSP right now, but are saying they won't be offering any new titles. They'll release the ones they're already making but won't be starting any new projects. Koei may be giving the PSP the same game as the DS, but Koei didn't say they weren't making new DS games. Same with Capcom.
Enjoy Egg Monsters? I'll be enjoying Crystal Chronicles on my DS- the PSP players can enjoy Frogger.
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Post by: Deguello on July 14, 2004, 12:11:03 PM
Is the PSP getting Viewtiful Joe? Where did ya hear that?
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Post by: couchmonkey on July 14, 2004, 01:17:29 PM
I've changed my mind, I think Mouse_clicker has interpreted the article properly, but I don't think it's quite as serious as it sounds. I mean, if their current PSP projects make $$$$ you can bet the developers will launch new projects.
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Post by: KDR_11k on July 14, 2004, 07:23:47 PM
Deguello: Some earlier DS discussion claimed that there was a version of Joe in the works for both the PSP and DS...
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Post by: Bill Aurion on July 14, 2004, 07:42:57 PM
Various online stores like Lik-Sang have VJ listed for the PSP as well...
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Post by: OmniDistortion on July 14, 2004, 07:55:27 PM
It's a pity all the bad news about PSP I am hearing. It's the most beautiful looking hand-held system I've ever seen.
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Post by: mouse_clicker on July 14, 2004, 09:03:20 PM
If you ask me, both the DS and the PSP look quite ugly. I hope they both go through some redesigns before they're released.
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Post by: ruby_onix on July 14, 2004, 09:05:01 PM
Yeah, it's pretty. But reality keeps taking it's toll on the system. It looked even better back when it was even more fictional. Back when it had touch sensitive controllers and buttons.
The latest version of the PSP looks like an Atari Lynx by comparison.
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Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on July 14, 2004, 09:27:13 PM
I happen to find the latter better looking. But it still looks like a cheap plastic device.
Title: RE: Sony's PSP May Face Games Shortage
Post by: Syl on July 15, 2004, 04:04:52 PM
They also acted as though the PS2 would be 100 times as powerful (perhaps I'm exaggerating - but they did overhype it) as the Dreamcast. ... I wouldn't believe anything Sony says about that until closer to the release.
I expect quite a few of those titles will be delayed... Some developers may have started more recently on them as well.
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Post by: Deguello on July 15, 2004, 07:05:07 PM
Ohh Ohh I bet I know what the PSP Viewtiful Joe is gonna be. It all makes sense now. I bet it will be VJoe 2 PSP. Whereas by nature the DS Viewtiful Joe must be a new game.
BTW, it is easy to say how many games will launch with something when that something's launch is a good bit aways. BURN.
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on July 15, 2004, 08:19:55 PM
Heh, one issue of the demented Australian mag 'Hyper' claimed the PlayStation 2 would be launching with 750 games in Japan. I kid you not. I'll scan it later for lol.
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Post by: KDR_11k on July 15, 2004, 09:55:58 PM
59 Games on the list, delay one. 58 Games on the list, delay one. 57 Games on the list, delay one. 56 Games on the list, delay one. ...
Besides, it's NOT 59 launch games, it's 59 games in developent in TOTAL. Many are just PS2 ports or boardgames or other redundant stuff.
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Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on July 15, 2004, 09:57:00 PM
If that indeed ever did happen, I'm willing to bet roughly 97% will be PS2 ports.
Stupid Aussie gaming media.
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Post by: ruby_onix on July 15, 2004, 11:57:44 PM
It's just so awesome. It begs to be posted. Again and again, until we're all sick of it.
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Post by: nitsu niflheim on July 16, 2004, 04:49:50 AM
How many launch games are actually released with the system at launch. I remember Eternal Darkness, Star Fox Adventures were both suppose to be GCN launch games, just to name two for one system, but ya'll get the idea. Just because they say a game is gonna launch when the system doesn't mean it actually while, like hos Sony likes to boast on how powerful their system is gonna be but when it's released is not all they said it was gonna be. And then you have the whole buy the PS2 version and the PSP version and play one and save, and then when on the go play from where you left off on the PSP, that in my opinion is nothing but screams "PORT".
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 17, 2004, 10:44:48 PM
the-magicbox.com confirmed a new PSP title in works that supposed to be released at the PSP japan launch, the title is called "The Tower of Purgatory" by Hudson.
BTW: I wonder why the name
Title: RE: Sony's PSP May Face Games Shortage
Post by: Kain on August 02, 2004, 06:27:58 PM
Well, it makes sense, because the psp sure seems like it's gona fail, I'd be surprised if it gets ANY 3rd party support.