Post by: theRPGFreak on July 06, 2004, 08:37:00 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on July 06, 2004, 09:18:06 PM
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 06, 2004, 09:28:37 PM
Post by: Syl on July 06, 2004, 09:28:48 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Square-Enix retains this.
It *IS* ignoring the cube, but not on the basis that its nintendo, its on the basis that it isn't the dominating force.
Post by: Mario on July 07, 2004, 01:25:24 AM
Maybe if they supported Nintendo, they would be the market leader?
Post by: DrZoidberg on July 07, 2004, 03:17:36 AM
Post by: joshnickerson on July 07, 2004, 05:47:18 AM
Uh yeah, where've you been?
Post by: couchmonkey on July 07, 2004, 06:20:15 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on July 07, 2004, 07:11:49 AM
Who knows what's the deal with third parties these days. One day they'll say they're supporting the Cube and the next they'll port all of our exclusives to the PS2 and port a bunch of their PS2 exclusives to the Xbox. Then we're all like "what's the deal" and they're all like "hey relax we love the Cube. Here's an exclusive we're not going to advertise." It's like all the third parties are bi-polar or something.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 07, 2004, 08:35:52 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on July 07, 2004, 09:32:01 AM
BTW, if it calms you down, they're porting the XBox "exclusive" Chronicles of Riddick to the PS2, as well.
Post by: Chongman on July 07, 2004, 10:31:57 AM
by the way, doesn't sony own a notable amount of square-enix stock? hmmm...I dont expect too many changes soon
Post by: bonestormer on July 07, 2004, 12:17:44 PM
I don't think ONE company could change the forutunes of GC. If SquareEnix was to make more games for GC, not much would be different.
All I've heard is that the main line of FF games (all that really matters) would stay only on Ps2. And the reason so far they've stayed away from Xbox is because SquareEnix is a very Japanese company, where Xbox does aweful.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on July 07, 2004, 04:49:51 PM
Post by: Infernal Monkey on July 07, 2004, 06:48:00 PM
And they do. That's why Kingdom Hearts on GBA will comes with a free Don's smallgoods ham sampler demo disc for PS2.
If Square only have intentions of releasing more FF: CC type GameCube games, well then they can stay in Sony land. Where's my Rad Racer 3, Square?
Post by: Syl on July 07, 2004, 07:07:57 PM
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Ian: It's a rumor like all those rumors that Nintendo is going third party. It exists and people believe it even though it goes against basic principles of the company.
BTW, if it calms you down, they're porting the XBox "exclusive" Chronicles of Riddick to the PS2, as well.
except that its being ported to PC, not PS2.
big difference there.
Post by: ThePerm on July 07, 2004, 09:15:50 PM
Post by: DrZoidberg on July 07, 2004, 11:36:17 PM
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chronicles of riddick on ps2? that's a beautiful game...gah,what waste on the underpowered ps2...personally i think it should stay on xbox
by the way, doesn't sony own a notable amount of square-enix stock? hmmm...I dont expect too many changes soon
It was like 12% before Square merged with Ericks, and now it's down to 8% or something, so they no longer have a deciding vote in what squenix does anymore or something, I mostly don't follow the news regarding that company/companies.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on July 08, 2004, 12:34:32 AM
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on the other hand the developer of final fantasy 7 said he would very much liek to get his hands on gamecube.
Maybe the tightass should buy one, then.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 08, 2004, 01:37:54 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on July 08, 2004, 09:41:38 AM
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except that its being ported to PC, not PS2.
big difference there.
No, I'm sure about that.
Post by: Syl on July 08, 2004, 12:56:44 PM
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Given Diesel's resolve to address the game's current production, gamers can consider the question of when the game is due to the PlayStation 2 platform moot. Or can they? A VU Games spokesperson checked in with the following comment today, saying that "at this time there are no plans to do Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay on PlayStation 2."
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 08, 2004, 01:58:38 PM
Post by: Darc Requiem on July 08, 2004, 04:26:33 PM
As for the Chronicles of Riddick on PS2.....ROTFLMMAO. My best friend has that game on X-box and if you've the footage of the original version of the game. Thats what the PS2 version will look like. There is no way that game can run on PS2 without grave reductions in graphical quality and frame rate. A GC version of the game would be hard enough to pull of. You'd need Factor 5 or the RE4 team to port a GC rendition IMO. A PS2 version would be a waste of time.
Darc Requiem
Post by: KDR_11k on July 08, 2004, 11:12:37 PM
Post by: couchmonkey on July 09, 2004, 05:12:52 AM
Professional 666: I noticed a new Mana game has been announced for PS2, and my heart was filled with joy. Then I remembered that I don't own a PS2, and my heart was filled with sadness. A few hours later the drugs wore off and my heart was filled with ordinary blood. But the initial artwork for that game looks awesome.
Post by: Darc Requiem on July 09, 2004, 05:34:33 AM
Darc Requiem
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 09, 2004, 05:25:10 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on July 09, 2004, 10:44:57 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 09, 2004, 11:13:38 PM
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on July 09, 2004, 11:52:50 PM
Post by: Ymeegod on July 11, 2004, 03:25:50 PM
Post by: Syl on July 11, 2004, 11:00:48 PM
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Actually as someone stated, nintendo paid out $150ish million to create an developer under square--Game Designers Studio. So yeah, another game would be a given IMO.
and that game is FF:CC for the DS.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 11, 2004, 11:20:43 PM
Post by: Draygaia on July 12, 2004, 10:24:09 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on July 12, 2004, 10:31:18 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 12, 2004, 10:39:49 AM
I'm still confused about a comment that Miyamoto made back before Treasure was revealed to be the developers of Wario World...He said that it was being developed by a "second party which they had worked with in the past"...
Post by: Ian Sane on July 12, 2004, 10:44:33 AM
Well they are a second party in the literal sense. Just not in gaming terms. They're aren't like Rare was. Nintendo did work with them for Sin & Punishment for the N64 which sadly was never released here.
Post by: Syl on July 12, 2004, 11:27:43 AM
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Erm, SE has more DS support than just the FFCC game...
oops, yeah, your right.
I'm wondering why Gradius V isn't coming to gamecube, I don't know why konami (or SCEA) would allow it to be released on the PS2 and not the cube. I'm amazed SCEA is allowing it to come out at all in america, but i suppose konami has enough control over them because of the MGS titles and such.
Tis a shame.
Treasure is one amazingly unique developer, they aren't afraid of taking risks, and i like that.
Post by: Darc Requiem on July 12, 2004, 12:15:03 PM
Darc Requiem
Post by: Ymeegod on July 13, 2004, 01:16:33 AM
Erm, SE has more DS support than just the FFCC game..."
He was referring to the developer GDS. :0. And yeah I know about it but I doubt that's the only title they are working on.
Post by: CasualGamer on July 13, 2004, 09:08:09 AM
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They can only fit one (money) hat on their heads at the same time.
Maybe if they supported Nintendo, they would be the market leader?
Don't be so bloody rediculous.
It would take more than just SquareEnix to get Nintendo back in the game, a mircle perhaps? Or maybe the imeadiate resignation of that bumbling, clueless fool Iwata, that would be a start.As for SquareEnix 'ignoring' the 'Cube. Would you waste all your time and money developing games for a comercial disaster like the Gamecube only to watch it bomb at retail along with all the other 'must have' Gamecube games?
Post by: Ian Sane on July 13, 2004, 10:18:53 AM
Not really. In Japan whatever console has Dragon Quest wins... period. That alone decides everything. Since that determines who wins that determines who gets the most Japanese third party support. Having the most Japanese third party support then ensures a strong presence in North America since a lot of the top selling games here are Japanese.
Post by: Mumei on July 13, 2004, 10:24:47 AM
But I just want Star Ocean III ;_;.
Post by: CasualGamer on July 13, 2004, 10:24:56 AM
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"It would take more than just SquareEnix to get Nintendo back in the game, a miracle perhaps?"
Not really. In Japan whatever console has Dragon Quest wins... period. That alone decides everything. Since that determines who wins that determines who gets the most Japanese third party support. Having the most Japanese third party support then ensures a strong presence in North America since a lot of the top selling games here are Japanese.
Nintendo are past it, they're never going to be major contenders again. ACCEPT IT DWEEB.
Nobody with any sense buys that Nitnendo crap anymore, it's kids stuff; gaming's moved on Nintendo have not and will never be No1 again. Quit dreaming.
Post by: Mumei on July 13, 2004, 10:27:43 AM
Post by: CasualGamer on July 13, 2004, 10:42:33 AM
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Which is exactly why Nintendo is still the best-selling publisher worldwide... Or second best-selling, I'm not sure if EA has passed them. And that is exactly why they profited over 670 million dollars in 2002 and profited 298 million dollars in 2003 due to the weak dollar. Oh and they are currently ahead of the X-Box in worldwide sales. Yep, they aren't a major contender XD.
Wrong, they are NOT ahead of Xbox inv world wide sales, they were for about a week after the price drop, but have been falling even further behind ever since. FACT.
Millions of dollars? WOW! LOL MS and Sony work in Billions.
No they're are not a major contender, havent been for a long while. Now go back to sleep.
Post by: Plugabugz on July 13, 2004, 10:44:22 AM
That's if you include all of Microsoft's and Sony's other divisions.
Post by: Syl on July 13, 2004, 10:47:02 AM
Post by: Mumei on July 13, 2004, 10:51:28 AM
Sony's profits last year: $810 million dollars with everything, including movies, electonics, etc. Only include the video games, and they profited $620 million.
Nintendo's profits last year: $298 million dollars with a very, very weak dollar, If the dollar had been at its usually strength, Nintendo was expected to profit 550 million.
So Nintendo has $8 billion dollars and every year they make 1/4 to 3/4 of a billion more. Yep, they are on the way out. Get your facts straight.
And yes, I left M$ out. Why? Because any profits that they have have nothing to do with the X-Box and they are so much larger than Sony or Nintendo that it is pointless to compare them.
And Nintendo is still ahead of Microsoft in worldwide sales, sorry. Why? Take a look at the X-Box's sales in Japan.
Post by: CasualGamer on July 13, 2004, 10:57:55 AM
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Nintendo also has Billions in the bank, and it is also ahead console sales worldwide. Sorry Casual, but you need to get your facts straight.
Oh so Nintnendo are ahead in console sales worldwide are they? Even ahead of Sony?
bwwwwhahahahahahhaha! You Nintendo fanboys do make me laugh.
Nintendo are going down the swany and you don't like it.
Basket-grapes-sour.
Make a sentence.
Post by: CasualGamer on July 13, 2004, 11:00:56 AM
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lol. How old are you? 15? Give me a break.
Sony's profits last year: $810 million dollars with everything, including movies, electonics, etc. Only include the video games, and they profited $620 million.
Nintendo's profits last year: $298 million dollars with a very, very weak dollar, If the dollar had been at its usually strength, Nintendo was expected to profit 550 million.
So Nintendo has $8 billion dollars and every year they make 1/4 to 3/4 of a billion more. Yep, they are on the way out. Get your facts straight.
And yes, I left M$ out. Why? Because any profits that they have have nothing to do with the X-Box and they are so much larger than Sony or Nintendo that it is pointless to compare them.
And Nintendo is still ahead of Microsoft in worldwide sales, sorry. Why? Take a look at the X-Box's sales in Japan.
ha,ha,ha,ha. Where do you come up with this crap? Thats all completely wrong, quit making sh*t up to try and justify your bad decsion in purchasing a crappy kids toy.
Post by: Jale on July 13, 2004, 11:02:04 AM
Make a sentence
Post by: Jale on July 13, 2004, 11:03:15 AM
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ha,ha,ha,ha. Where do you come up with this crap? Thats all completely wrong, quit making sh*t up to try and justify your bad decsion in purchasing a crappy kids toy.
Like a fish out of water, making death throes, lashing out with nonsence like this.
Why do you bother CG?
Post by: Zach on July 13, 2004, 11:06:34 AM
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LOL MS and Sony work in Billions.
Sony maybe, Ms yes they do work in billions of dollars for the Xbox, that is when you count billions in losses
Post by: Mumei on July 13, 2004, 11:07:48 AM
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lol. How old are you? 15? Give me a break.
Sony's profits last year: $810 million dollars with everything, including movies, electonics, etc. Only include the video games, and they profited $620 million.
Nintendo's profits last year: $298 million dollars with a very, very weak dollar, If the dollar had been at its usually strength, Nintendo was expected to profit 550 million.
So Nintendo has $8 billion dollars and every year they make 1/4 to 3/4 of a billion more. Yep, they are on the way out. Get your facts straight.
And yes, I left M$ out. Why? Because any profits that they have have nothing to do with the X-Box and they are so much larger than Sony or Nintendo that it is pointless to compare them.
And Nintendo is still ahead of Microsoft in worldwide sales, sorry. Why? Take a look at the X-Box's sales in Japan.
ha,ha,ha,ha. Where do you come up with this crap? Thats all completely wrong, quit making sh*t up to try and justify your bad decsion in purchasing a crappy kids toy.
Actually... That is the official company line on things. Go check GameSpot for profits and you'll find it. I didn't make that up. Unless you are suggesting that Sony and Nintendo pretended to make that much.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 13, 2004, 05:13:59 PM
Someone, please claim this thread.
Post by: Mumei on July 13, 2004, 05:27:35 PM
. I checked my facts >_>.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on July 13, 2004, 06:57:50 PM
Move along. Nothing to see here...
Post by: theRPGFreak on July 13, 2004, 08:51:37 PM
Nintendo is ahead of XBOX in worldwide saels Casual Gamer. The XBox has only sold 500,000 units in Japan, and the people who bought those are pissed off because the one game they wanted for it (True Fantasy Live Online) just got canned.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 14, 2004, 01:55:26 AM
The GC, as unbelievable as it sounds after the XBox's big price cut and sales, is still a million ahead of the Box. The bit about the GC only being on top for two weeks suggests you're talking american weekly sales, not installed base here. I don't recall that being an important factor.
Post by: Mumei on July 14, 2004, 01:57:35 AM
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Hey look, we have a troll. Ignore him/her.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
But completely nullifying a troll's arguments by pulling up facts that contradict their statements is fun
. I still have the links for the info if anyone wants it 
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