Post by: Jonnyboy117 on June 08, 2004, 09:11:04 AM
Despite no official announcement so far, the Memory Card 1019 is now available in many stores, including Nintendo.com's online store. The card provides 8 MB of storage for your GameCube, at an MSRP of $29.99 USD. For comparison, the Memory Card 1019 is four times as large as Memory Card 251 and 16 times as large as the original Memory Card 59.
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 08, 2004, 09:25:11 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on June 08, 2004, 09:31:05 AM
Post by: Rhoq on June 08, 2004, 09:55:55 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on June 08, 2004, 10:04:31 AM
Here's hint for the N5 Nintendo: RELEASE A BIG MEMORY CARD RIGHT AWAY! I understand that blatantly ripping off your loyal fanbase has it's short term perks but it just pisses the fanbase off and it completely screws over sports gamers which make up a HUGE chunk of the gaming market. The really annoying thing is that this is a Gamecube "flaw" that was completely avoidable just like many other little flaws with the Cube. Add them together and it creates a big excuse for people to not buy a Cube. Don't give people excuses not to buy an N5, Nintendo.
Post by: Knoxxville on June 08, 2004, 10:17:31 AM
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Post by: MattVDB on June 08, 2004, 10:54:54 AM
They are releasing the 1019 now because it is affordable enough to do it now.
And don't trying writing off what third parties have been doing. They may have been offering them from the get go, but they haven't been reliable. Nintendo won't by cheap goods to make their products, and this is why it has taken so long.
Post by: Ian Sane on June 08, 2004, 11:19:30 AM
Then how come Sony has been able to sell a card of the same capacity since the PS2 launch? When the Cube launched Sony was selling 8MB cards for practically the same price Nintendo was charging for 0.5MB cards. And now Sony is selling the 8MB cards in two packs for only $10 more than one of Nintendo's 8MB cards. Nintendo is either ripping us off or they're incredibly incompetent at making an affordable memory card. Either way there's no good excuse.
Post by: mouse_clicker on June 08, 2004, 12:19:17 PM
Post by: Jensen on June 08, 2004, 01:00:29 PM
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It bugs me that what most people don't realize is, is that memory costs money.
No it doesn't.... at the sizes they are offering, the memory is dirt cheap for them.
Nintendo is ripping you off.
$28 for a standard 128MB Flash Card .....that would be a 16379 block card
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-160-008&depa=0
With the cost of flash memory now, the three sizes that Nintendo now offers probably cost the same to manufacture.
Considering that every game needs a memory card, it is just a hidden cost in the console price.
Post by: Termin8Anakin on June 08, 2004, 01:29:20 PM
Memory Card 1000000000.
Talk about false advertising ahahhaha.
Is the mem card 1019 gonna be sold in Australia?
Post by: Jensen on June 08, 2004, 01:40:58 PM
That will never happen, of course.
Post by: MattVDB on June 08, 2004, 01:48:21 PM
My question is this: Why can't 3rd parties make reliable memory cards? If indeed the only cost is the memory, then yes, any third party could have released a working memory card. Instead, because of the memory writing hardware the Gamecube uses it takes a longer time for it to be engineered/produced at a low enough price with its integrity still intact. This is why Gamecube owners only now get these cards, and for these prices.
I applaud Sony for making memory cards easy to produce while at the same time applaud Nintendo for designing a console that has yet to be effeciently hacked. Think about it. Proprietary anything costs money and time.
Post by: Jensen on June 08, 2004, 02:07:09 PM
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Originally posted by: MattVDB
My question is this: Why can't 3rd parties make reliable memory cards?
Because Nintendo doesn't want them too. They are also usually smaller companies that don't focus on flash memory products.
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If indeed the only cost is the memory, then yes, any third party could have released a working memory card. Instead, because of the memory writing hardware the Gamecube uses it takes a longer time for it to be engineered/produced at a low enough price with its integrity still intact. This is why Gamecube owners only now get these cards, and for these prices.
Why would the "Memory Writing Harware" make it slower for Nintendo to introduce an 8mb card?
Nntendo's cards aren't any more special than most CF cards out there. The cards are a way to earn money back from the low console price.
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on June 08, 2004, 03:50:01 PM
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Originally posted by: Termin8Anakin
Is the mem card 1019 gonna be sold in Australia?
Considering NAL still supplies more memory card 59's than 251's... I doubt we'll see these mega hyper that attack was super effective 1000000 cards for quite some time. They'd be about $100 anyway.
Post by: Syl on June 08, 2004, 09:01:58 PM
I currently have 4x 59 cards full (including my animal crossing one, i had to delete animal crossing) and a 251 full.
Shame nintendo didn't release something like this to begin with.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on June 09, 2004, 12:41:28 AM
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Originally posted by: Termin8Anakin
Is the mem card 1019 gonna be sold in Australia?
Considering NAL still supplies more memory card 59's than 251's... I doubt we'll see these mega hyper that attack was super effective 1000000 cards for quite some time. They'd be about $100 anyway.
Just wait till Iwata-san comes Down Under.
Post by: Termin8Anakin on June 09, 2004, 03:56:18 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on June 09, 2004, 09:40:52 AM
Post by: Madman Adam on June 12, 2004, 11:07:05 AM
Nintendo decided to take the marketing approach by increasing the memory card size gradually as to increase revenue (therefore profits: ie. they make more money) through making customers by a new memory card each time one came out. What Ian points out here is that in the long run Nintendo's marketing plan is hurting its sales because people will get discouraged by the initial tiny memory card. Both marketing plans have their pros and cons. And I'm sure that the costs to produce this newest card were not much different when the Cube came out (they are cheap electronic components for crying out loud!). The price you see on a item like that is usually because of a nice big markup a company puts on an item so as to make money, and not the actual cost of the material to make the product.
Post by: Chode2234 on June 15, 2004, 04:22:34 AM
I hope next gen this isn't even an issue, it shouldn't be now...
Post by: Ian Sane on June 15, 2004, 07:19:47 AM
I can't copy my Chao data for Sonic Adventure 2 as well for some reason. I was able to copy it from my 59 to my 251 so it must be an issue with the 1019. No biggy since I don't even own that game and the save is from a rental.
Post by: thecubedcanuck on June 15, 2004, 07:30:22 AM
conflicting opinions sure do threaten you, dont they mouse.
Just because you love wearing the Nintendo dress doesnt make everything they do correct. Ian as a consumer has every right to complain. I for one think he is much more objective than you, and presents his arguments very thoroughly. You on the other hand have become a repetative Nintendo puppet.
I am done with site. Nothing here of any value to me anymore.
Post by: Renny on June 15, 2004, 11:59:14 AM
Post by: Koopa Troopa on June 15, 2004, 02:04:16 PM
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I am done with site. Nothing here of any value to me anymore.
Yay! Now if Ninja were to come back everything would be as it should.
