Post by: Blackknight131 on June 07, 2004, 02:11:00 AM
The interview is with Eiji Aonuma, one of the two main masterminds behind the last few Zelda games, the other mastermind being You-Know-Who.
Not much revealed yet, only that its coming...
But we can dream up some possiblities with how the DS's special capabilties may enhance gameplay, rite? Like, using voice commands when horseback riding...or a really good one I got from someone in the P-A forums: use the touch screen to scrawl simple symbols to invoke the magic of the Wind Waker...Im thinking this could be a showcase title for the DS Difference...
Check out the interview (conducted by Steven Kent) at Gamespy.com, it should be one of the top new items...
-Blackknight131
Post by: Ian Sane on June 07, 2004, 07:32:36 AM
That's a neat idea but I'm not sure how well it would work. First of all if you're playing in public you wouldn't want to be yelling into the mic the whole time. Second of all there's the problem that Zelda targets a large audience so you have kids and adults playing, both of which have different sounding voices. One of Hey You Pikachu's problems was that the voice recognition was wonky with adult voices because it was designed with higher pitched kid voices in mind. That could be a problem here as well.
The best idea I can think of is parallel worlds like in A Link to the Past except in this case each world is on each screen so you can see both worlds at the same time and thus see how changes in one world affect the other. This could make for some really interesting puzzles. I'm thinking 2D because a top down view would work better for the two screens than a moving camera. Single player as well.
Another idea could be a multiplayer Four Swords deal where the top screen shows the main view and the second screen acts like the GBA in that it shows the parts where you don't want the other players to see. This time around though I would like four unique characters instead of just four Links and the power-ups should be permanent. There should be no levels either. It would be like a normal Zelda game except multiplayer.
Post by: reverend_tod on June 07, 2004, 06:40:19 PM
Post by: Nephilim on June 07, 2004, 08:51:47 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on June 07, 2004, 11:04:34 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on June 08, 2004, 07:08:45 AM
Oh man I HATE randomly created levels. Aside from the fact that if you get lost or stuck you're f*cked because you can't check a guide or ask a friend for help, I can't stand the dull generic level designs that result. Part of the fun of Zelda is the attention to detail in the dungeons. I love how in the 3D Zeldas the dungeons actually look like a real place instead of just a level. Leave randomly created levels for the inferior Zelda knock-offs.
Post by: Jale on June 08, 2004, 08:19:50 AM
Post by: Blackknight131 on June 09, 2004, 10:29:20 AM
I can feel where a couple of you stand on the whole voice recognition thing....in public at any rate. Most people dont like looking silly, myself included, although I know in reality no one really gives a flying pigs foot about who I am, and why im talking to my little box. Nevertheless I feel, provided the technology is up to par, such an aspect can really add to the ease of control in a game.
And that to me is really what the DS represents right now...I cant yet see the enormous new gameplay or new ways to play games it will provide but I can TOTALLY see all the ways it can ADD to our gameplay experiences, just little things enabled by all of its touted features which makes playing games THAT much more intuitive and/or that much more involving. The touch screen for one will really streamline alot of game interfaces.
In Zelda theres the helpful dual screens so that we can have a constant map or whatever menu we choose, as the screen display can be context sensitive. Maybe they'll bring back Navi (I realize not everyone would be thrilled with this, but it beats "tingle") and have her populate one of the screens sorta the way a virtual pet does like 'Hey You Pikachu'. Theres the touch screen which likely will add all kinds of unique little twists to Zelda dungeon design. Maybe Link will find a homing boomerang that will arc out in a path you trace...or perhaps Link will cast magic by simply scrawling small shapes on the touch screen, like a small flame to light fires. Then theres voice technology, maybe the designers will add vocal puzzles where you have to to solve environmental challenges to learn a password to get to the boss room (like Lord of the Rings, "speak 'friend', and enter..")
Its in these subtle ways, smaller differences here and there, that may really add up to a compelling game experience.
-Blackknight131
Post by: Jale on June 09, 2004, 10:37:13 AM
(person sits near you on a train and hears) (on the screen)
Kick the ball!....... Horse starts to move
Pass it....... Horse speeds up
Foul!...... Horse slows down
Referee!...... Horse stops
Come on Beckham!...... Draws Bow
Shoot!...... Fires Bow
Ah, its Half Time..... Link runs off screen to queue up for the grotty toilets
while the horse eats pies out of a nosebag
Post by: norebonomis on June 14, 2004, 03:22:08 PM
when i was watching the video on nintendo.com for the minish cap i got the idea for some kind of feature that would alert you, beep beep, or buzz buzz, when someone else has a certain item that you may need, like kinstones, i'm not exactly sure how that is supposed to work. also, it seems like the new gamecube realistic zelda will feature more toned fighting systems, well how about your walking around a train station (i don't live in a city forgive me if that comment is a bit dated) and your ds beeps and you are pulled into another dimension and have to fight one on one with a link from a parallel universe (of course it's someone sitting on the toilet in the restroom down the hall), this alternate dimension idea would go along with all the confusing timeline stuff. hehe.
i would like to see a zelda game with downloadable content. imagine you finished windwaker and were able to download or buy a new volume where the ocean is drained and it is seemless, it doesn't feel like your playing a new zelda game, it feels like the one you've been playing is just getting longer and longer and keeps expanding. like you are exploring this new land and you want to go back to the forsaken fortress or something, use some kind of musical instrument (using your touchpad) to go back in time and it's all just seemless.
how about raising a tomagatchi-like cucco on your ds and be able to sell items like bombs, or trade those stupid little flag things on windfall with actual other people instead of goron merchants? of course i don't mean bring back those stupid flags and statues but more usable items, like keys to certain areas with minigames. keys that are in short supply so to get to areas you HAVE to go out into the real world and find people with them.
ooh ooh ooh, i just got idea to photoshop some ds images. hehehehe, will be posting them in a little while, my appologies if i ranted too long :-P
Post by: norebonomis on June 14, 2004, 06:23:12 PM
Wind Waker DS
Minish Cap DS
i was going to make something more creative but i got frustrated with the lack of talent i posess. so i just shoved some other zelda games in here.
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 14, 2004, 06:51:33 PM
Post by: norebonomis on June 14, 2004, 06:59:13 PM
Post by: Jale on June 15, 2004, 07:49:47 AM
Post by: norebonomis on June 15, 2004, 11:22:00 AM
Just kidding, i have thought about this and if you look at the e3 footage you can see the goofy little comercials of office workers using the device, (instead of the lucky bastards at e3 who had to play with one that was attached to those kiosks) well anyway, they look like they are having a hard time holding the thing and trying to use the touchpad and trying to use the buttons, i guess we will have to wait and see if nintendo starts offering some kind of medical grafting so that we can all have an extra limb to use the touchpad ^_^
Post by: Jale on June 15, 2004, 12:13:26 PM
Post by: reverend_tod on June 19, 2004, 12:23:27 PM
Post by: Jale on June 19, 2004, 02:06:05 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on June 19, 2004, 09:43:37 PM
Duke Nukem 64 used all of the N64 controller's buttons including the L button and both the analog stick and the d-pad. It's essentially completely f*cking impossible to work with. Nintendo would never make something like that but don't underestimate the sheer idiocy of lesser developers.
Post by: Jale on June 19, 2004, 11:10:45 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 20, 2004, 11:41:17 AM
Post by: norebonomis on June 20, 2004, 05:53:54 PM
Post by: evil intentions on June 21, 2004, 07:21:35 PM
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on June 30, 2004, 04:53:32 PM
Well, that's gonna be a problem with basically any game that uses voice recognition on the DS; I mean, handhelds ARE meant to be portable after all.
Post by: kurst_chao3030 on July 28, 2004, 03:30:33 PM
Post by: Zach on July 28, 2004, 05:37:49 PM
Post by: kurst_chao3030 on July 28, 2004, 07:28:17 PM
I also have an idea of putting the main gameplay screen on the bottom with the sub screen start menu on top, that way, instead of having to tranfer the arrow, or hookshot like item first person view to the bottom screen, u could automatically do it on the same screen as the gamplay, like the original orcarina of time. and since the bottom is touch screen, instead of using buttons to acess orginally c buttons, u could just use your thumb.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 28, 2004, 09:13:26 PM
Post by: kurst_chao3030 on July 28, 2004, 09:24:56 PM
Post by: Jale on July 29, 2004, 05:21:57 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on July 29, 2004, 05:55:08 AM
Post by: HAY GUYS MY UNCLE KNOWS MIYAMOTO OH NO I'M BANNED on July 29, 2004, 11:02:22 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 29, 2004, 11:50:14 AM
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Originally posted by: kurst_chao3030
if its gonna be a 3d zelda its gotta have the system as orcarina, so somthing has to take place of the c buttons, other then X, and Y.
Or they could just make a new Zelda game that is based on a new control scheme and not port over OoT...
Post by: kurst_chao3030 on July 29, 2004, 01:24:00 PM
Post by: Zach on July 29, 2004, 02:20:42 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 29, 2004, 02:26:17 PM
Post by: HAY GUYS MY UNCLE KNOWS MIYAMOTO OH NO I'M BANNED on July 29, 2004, 10:08:11 PM
Post by: Ray00101 on July 29, 2004, 10:10:40 PM
