Post by: StrikerObi on May 27, 2004, 06:44:07 AM
According to news coming out of Japan, Nintendo held a briefing today in Osaka, Japan. The company spokesman said that Nintendo would like to debut their next home console system at the 2005 E3 show, which is being held next May from the 18th to the 20th. Earlier this month at the 2004 E3 expo Nintendo's President, Satoru Iwata, told the world that Nintendo's next console wouldn't just be about high specs and fancy graphics. Instead, while the system would be powerful, they will be focusing on innovation.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 27, 2004, 07:18:43 AM
"Earlier this month at the 2004 E3 expo Nintendo's President, Satoru Iwata, told the world that Nintendo's next console wouldn't just be about high specs and fancy graphics. Instead, while the system would be powerful, they will be focusing on innovation."
Even though the DS turned out to be pretty cool and had much better graphic capabilities than I thought it would this statement still makes me nervous every time I read it. I just get visions of standard power glove controllers or something equally useless and bizarre. It should all be fine if Nintendo remembers this rule: no matter what the hardware still has to be able to play the same types of games that are on the PS3 and Xbox2. Oh and make a bigger d-pad this time too.
Post by: nickmitch on May 27, 2004, 09:52:02 AM
But we all new it'd be at E3 '05.
Post by: couchmonkey on May 27, 2004, 10:05:58 AM
Amen to bigger d-pads! I've learned to cope with the GameCube one, but it doesn't need to be so small.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 27, 2004, 10:32:47 AM
It wasn't the launch lineup itself as much as the six month game drought that followed it. Had they provided a must own killer app with a lot of depth like Super Mario 64 it wouldn't have been so bad. The Xbox lineup at least had Halo which still is a system seller. The PS2 launch sucked but that didn't matter because it didn't compete directly with the Cube and Xbox launches. The PS2 2001 lineup is what competed with those and that lineup was killer.
I'm assuming that all three of the next gen consoles are launching in 2006 so since they'll be competing directly from the get-go a killer launch lineup would be a big advantage. There's the potential to get a jump on Sony since they no doubt will not have a killer first party title.
Post by: Kairon on May 27, 2004, 11:28:38 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"Earlier this month at the 2004 E3 expo Nintendo's President, Satoru Iwata, told the world that Nintendo's next console wouldn't just be about high specs and fancy graphics. Instead, while the system would be powerful, they will be focusing on innovation."
Even though the DS turned out to be pretty cool and had much better graphic capabilities than I thought it would this statement still makes me nervous every time I read it. I just get visions of standard power glove controllers or something equally useless and bizarre. It should all be fine if Nintendo remembers this rule: no matter what the hardware still has to be able to play the same types of games that are on the PS3 and Xbox2. Oh and make a bigger d-pad this time too.
Sadly, whenever Nintendo says that it won't turn into Sony or Microsoft, fans cringe.
Look, I'm not saying that it's a good thing, but I'd still like to think that Nintendo should be respected for it's integrity and focus as a game developer and innovater, and not looked down upon for not being able to outmarket the all powerful Microsoft, or out tech-geek the consumer-electronics powerhouse Sony.
And it may be that Nintendo is doomed to never regaining the top spot because it can't magically transform into Sony or Microsoft. But I'd like to think that real Nintendo fans have gotten past marketshare numbers to see what's really important: the videogame medium. And real Nintendo fans should be proud to see that Nintendo's dedication to the videogame medium and their enthusiasm for its future cannot be questioned, no matter how many PS2s fly off the shelves, or how many commercials for XBox we get exposed to.
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 27, 2004, 12:02:19 PM
All I'm saying is that good games are available on all systems and I don't want the N5 to be so different and unique that hit games on other platforms can't be ported or genres that I enjoy can't be played. The Virtual Boy is the most extreme example of innovation killing a system. When it came out I immediately wasn't interested in it because the types of games I enjoyed on the NES and SNES could not be made on the VB. Think of it this way. If the N5 is so innovative that a "traditional" game like Metroid Prime cannot be played on it that's a problem, correct? Any innovation has to compliment the abilities of previous Nintendo consoles, not replace them.
Post by: Kairon on May 27, 2004, 12:21:14 PM
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Post by: mouse_clicker on May 27, 2004, 12:23:55 PM
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 27, 2004, 12:45:39 PM
Dudes this just continues the nintendo belief that its not flashy graphics that make a good game but accessability, and giving new gaming experiences that are more important.
Everyone was so worried about what the DS would mean for Nintendo for months, well E3 has come and gone and can anyone say that there was not a method to nintendo's madness? Just look at how Uber MP: hunters looks.
The revolution will be more of the same, nintendo realizes it can't do what MS and Sony does, so instead their pulling a Robert Frost and taking the road less traveled, but do you really think they'll make it so they can't bring Mario, Link, Samus and the rest to it? Please, their going to make certain their Bread and butter is there. Sit back and relax, enjoy the ride (and please keep arms and legs withing the compartment at all times).
Post by: marsbarrow on May 27, 2004, 12:58:18 PM
Post by: Nephilim on May 27, 2004, 05:00:53 PM
The next cube is in safe hands, Nintendo is still busy with the cube thu
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 28, 2004, 12:55:27 PM
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Originally posted by: Avinash_Tyagi
The revolution will be more of the same.......
Not according to Forbes.com
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The company said on Thursday it would like to debut a new game machine at next year's E3, the game industry's annual trade show usually held in May, but Nintendo officials said it would be wrong to call Revolution a successor to its current GameCube console.
"This won't be a continuation, but rather something entirely different," Nintendo Senior Managing Director Yoshiro Mori said at an analyst's briefing. Nintendo President Satoru Iwata told Reuters earlier this month that the next-generation game machine would change how people now play video games, sitting in front of a television holding a controller.
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
If the N5 is so innovative that a "traditional" game like Metroid Prime cannot be played on it that's a problem, correct? Any innovation has to compliment the abilities of previous Nintendo consoles, not replace them.
Take what you want from the comments above, but I hope nintendo was thinking like Ian Sane when they were planning the 'Revolution'
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 28, 2004, 02:36:54 PM
I distinclty said it'll be more the same stuff that the DS does, unlike the other consoles its going to bring new experiences into the gaming industry.
Try reading my post next time.
Post by: ootler on May 28, 2004, 02:41:15 PM
Analogue sticks and rumble were clearly the work of a deranged mind also. How could that ever take off?
The idea that nintendo don't know what they are doing is evidently well founded.
Post by: odifiend on May 28, 2004, 08:12:23 PM
But if it is true that the Revolution is backwards compatible, there should be no worries.
Hmm... Another way the Revolution is parallel to the DS.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 28, 2004, 10:01:46 PM
Yeah but those floppy joysticks f*cking sucked.
The d-pad did a better job at digital control so it replaced it. However the analog stick did not replace the d-pad because it is merely different, not better. Any change that outright replaces an existing format has to be better. If it's merely different the old method has to still be there."the next-generation game machine would change how people now play video games, sitting in front of a television holding a controller."
F*ck, quotes like that scare the sh!t out of me. I get visions of Virtual Boy. Odifiend's right in that Nintendo is in too weak of a position in the console market to bust out something really different and daring and have it take off. They better know what they're doing. It's got to be better than pulling levers and drawing Pac-Man or no one's going to buy it, myself included.
Anyone else find it odd that Nintendo claims that games have become too complicated for the average person yet their solution to this "problem" is to introduce new stuff that even seasoned gamers are unfamiliar with?
Post by: odifiend on May 29, 2004, 06:11:47 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane<br"the next-generation game machine would change how people now play video games, sitting in front of a television holding a controller."
F*ck, quotes like that scare the sh!t out of me.
I agree. Does anyone remember SEGA's activator? It almost sounds like that is what Nintendo is describing. I owned it and it was only decent for Eternal Champions (the game for which it was designed) and it was useless for every other game. This is the specialization Nintendo has to watch out for.
Post by: KDR_11k on May 29, 2004, 09:44:37 PM
Nintendo tests new ideas versus how many games could use it nowadays (in an interview Miyamoto said they have tons of ideas and sometimes throw a few of them at their hardware). Look at the Konga controller. Where others would have made the music game and left it at that, Nintendo makes more games using the controller.
Post by: Kairon on June 01, 2004, 07:48:36 AM
But this is all paranoia. Not only do we not know much about the Revolution (Though I'm betting it'll come with wireless technology to work in conjunction with the DS... which has both a touchpad and built-in microphone...), but ever since the Virtual Boy (which, Gunpei Yokoi's creation, demonstrates a completely different school of thought than Miyamoto's current day philosophies) Nintendo has tried to create new input and gameplay relationships that are as intuitive as they are innovative. Nintendo doesn't have Sega's arcade background or their wackiness, but they are definitely experimental in their internal projects. But even then, these projects are not meant in a way to exclude users, but to create game systems that are more inclusive.
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Post by: Draygaia on June 01, 2004, 11:00:33 AM
Post by: Kairon on June 04, 2004, 08:18:06 AM
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Post by: theRPGFreak on June 04, 2004, 10:32:32 AM
Post by: odifiend on June 04, 2004, 11:25:51 AM
