Post by: Gibdo Master on May 11, 2004, 09:59:48 AM
Check it out
I'm speechless.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 11, 2004, 10:04:57 AM
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Post by: Oldskool on May 11, 2004, 10:11:32 AM
I SAW IT
I SAW IT
LIVE!!!
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!! *Jumps out window*
edit: does anyone else agree the presenter was lame? C'mon: "Its not online, its no-line!"
Post by: couchmonkey on May 11, 2004, 10:13:40 AM
Post by: BigJim on May 11, 2004, 10:16:49 AM
This was the message Nintendo needed to send.
Post by: Gibdo Master on May 11, 2004, 10:20:07 AM
This game is absolutely gorgeous though. I'm really impressed. I hope what we saw wasn't just a demo and that stuff will actually be in the game. Fighting enemies while on the horse will be freakin cool. It was wonderful to see an actual forest too. Damn I can't get over how great it looks.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 11, 2004, 10:22:53 AM
HOLY F*CK! REALISTIC ZELDA! F*CK YEAH! WOW! HOLY F*CK! etc.
I don't think anyone expected this. Well done Nintendo for fooling us all. I'll bet they had this planned from the beginning but it would take too long to make so they made the cel-shaded engine so they could get a Zelda game out faster. This is it! This is the Gamecube killer app!
Post by: BigJim on May 11, 2004, 10:24:01 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on May 11, 2004, 10:28:53 AM
Anyway, looks very good. I'm really glad Nintendo held back a couple of secrets this year, I feel that was what was lacking in last year's E3 - no real surprises. I'm very interested in hearing more about this game and DK Jungle Beat too.
Post by: Gibdo Master on May 11, 2004, 10:31:26 AM
Post by: Gibdo Master on May 11, 2004, 10:34:18 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 11, 2004, 10:40:03 AM
Post by: akdaman1 on May 11, 2004, 11:06:08 AM
I cant believe it ...I woke up at 4.00 am waiting for some big news and have been trying to get into IGN for like 1 hour oh and damn it was worth the wait.
I was losing faith in Nintendo and the Zelda series but OMG.
AAAAAHHHHH.
Post by: Mannypon on May 11, 2004, 11:06:47 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 11, 2004, 11:12:24 AM
You see, it's bullshit like this that separates true Zelda fans from the posers...
Post by: Oldskool on May 11, 2004, 11:18:17 AM
When I get back from school tommorow, I'm headin straight for the net.
Post by: Gibdo Master on May 11, 2004, 11:32:55 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 11, 2004, 11:33:22 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 11, 2004, 11:53:31 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
I happy. Regardless of cel-shading or not. Another Zelda = I happy.
Couldn't have put it better myself...
(This might be Wind Waker's sequel, because you can see Bokoblins and a Wind Waker-esque Moblin in the trailer...Just give me a love story, Nintendo!
.)
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 11, 2004, 11:59:18 AM
Sad, true, but Jesus jumped and played the fiddle this game looks incredible!
Post by: Nile Boogie on May 11, 2004, 12:33:19 PM
I do belive that WindWaker2 is still on track for a 2004 release and I don't belive that 2days game is WW2.
Post by: Gibdo Master on May 11, 2004, 12:39:19 PM
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Originally posted by: mouse_clicker
The ONLY complaint I have now is that Wind Waker 2 probably won't come out.
Sad, true, but Jesus jumped and played the fiddle this game looks incredible!
Well, this could still be Wind Waker 2 ya know. IGN said this game is supposed to be pretty far along, so they've probably been working on it the whole time.
Post by: Koopa Troopa on May 11, 2004, 01:34:43 PM
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"I was losing faith in Nintendo and the Zelda series but OMG."
You see, it's bullshit like this that separates true Zelda fans from the posers...
Tell it, Bill! All you anti-WWs, stick that in your pipe and smoke it!
So, what did Miyamoto say at the conference?
Post by: Ian Sane on May 11, 2004, 02:14:49 PM
All I can say is that if this game was a woman I would ask it to marry me.
If this game doesn't sell Cubes then the game buying public is officially a bunch of know-nothing idiots and Nintendo should go niche like Apple.
Post by: soracloudtidus on May 11, 2004, 02:21:13 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 11, 2004, 02:29:11 PM
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 11, 2004, 03:52:26 PM
Link is awesome, I hope more will be revealed.
Post by: Rich on May 11, 2004, 04:14:50 PM
Post by: DrZoidberg on May 11, 2004, 04:30:53 PM
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edit: does anyone else agree the presenter was lame? C'mon: "Its not online, its no-line!"
take that back! Frankenstein did an outstanding job presenting, Nintendo's conference was FAR better than the pie-graph-o-rama that was Sony's presentation, and while i didn't see it Microsoft had a pretty poor one also. Nintendo's had energy, and frankenstine.
allthough the Sony CEO did say Onrine, and that is hilarious engrish fun.
Post by: Gibdo Master on May 11, 2004, 05:14:40 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 11, 2004, 06:22:52 PM
--Chris @ Nintendorks
I hope you're all happy you got the Boy-Toy you've all wanted.
I'm delighted to see a Zelda adventure with a dark, "tangible" atmosphere.
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 11, 2004, 07:12:19 PM
Come on, it's too much of a coincidence.
Post by: KDR_11k on May 11, 2004, 09:15:37 PM
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 11, 2004, 09:36:02 PM
People didn't believe me, But I knew. I posted alot of what I thought would be the case over IGN boards, before they went pay for all our crap BS. Heh time to eat some crow for those who didn't think it was possible,
this proves it.
My IGN s/n was Jace3957 Mouse_Clicker and I go back
But enough of my ranting, I've been dying to do it.
This looks so awesome, Can't wait to play it. Will there be a playable demo on hands at E3?
Since it's Far up in there.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on May 11, 2004, 10:57:23 PM
NOW QUIT YOUR BITCHING.
I had to say that (although no one is bitching now). Over the past 2 years, I was sick and tired of people bitching about wanting a realistic Zelda, just so they could compete with the Hayloe and GTA fanboys.
I wished EAD used the cel-shading engine again, as I loved it and it fitted the Zelda world perfectly. Does that mean I hated the new Zelda trailer? NO! It blew me away, just as it did to you. In fact, I've watched it like 10 times already, and gets my vote as the best video game trailer evar!
The graphix are awesome, although, judging from some of the pix, some textures are blurry, and need some work.
Post by: Termin8Anakin on May 11, 2004, 11:02:58 PM
It would be suicide.
The reason why I loved WW and Link was because it was so fluid and animated - facial expressions, body movement, his eyes - you just fell in love with him! And the enemies were awesome too!
If they could carry those same emotionally charged animatics into the realistic Zelda then by GOD that would be heaven. Star Fox Adventures was a great start.
Sweeping romances, as Bill (
) said, and epic battles is the next revolution in Zelda. Sure there still will be exploration, but massive real-time battles would be cool too, perhaps we will actually see the Hyrulian Army in action, rather than just being mere guards or mentioned in story, with Link as the leader!Ok, so it won't be on the scale of Lord of the Rings, but given the epic look it has already, and the fact that Link really does look like a battle-weary soldier, that should be more a possibility now.
Post by: Griffin on May 11, 2004, 11:18:26 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 11, 2004, 11:20:47 PM
Meanwhile, more gameplay details were divulged. Link will feature the same eye-tracking system used in Wind Waker.
Neither Shigeru Miyamoto nor Eiji Aonuma will be directing the Legend of Zelda title. Both serve as producers. A new, still-secret director will helm the project."
--IGN
PaLaDiN, what were you trying to say earlier? *_*
Post by: reviewgamer on May 11, 2004, 11:30:18 PM
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on May 11, 2004, 11:32:18 PM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
PaLaDiN, what were you trying to say earlier? *_*
Nah.......it couldn't be......
Post by: Mario on May 11, 2004, 11:55:00 PM
The graphics look great, but the gameplay in that trailer looks odd, and different, there's something missing.
I think this game might revolve around war... for some reason. The Legend of Zelda: War of Something.
Post by: odifiend on May 12, 2004, 12:01:00 AM
The charge from Lttp seems to make its return (probably thanks to sc2).
(Not much to add but i'm so excited i can't believe i can even form sentences)
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 12, 2004, 12:44:09 AM
It's probably just a silly theory, but it would be infinitely cool if it were true.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 12, 2004, 12:45:58 AM
I also remind myself of something I previously thought; these "new" graphics remind me of FFCC's graphics.
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 12, 2004, 03:19:35 AM
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Originally posted by: AiAiQuote
Originally posted by: Professional 666
PaLaDiN, what were you trying to say earlier? *_*
Nah.......it couldn't be......
Couldn't it AiAi.....??? Couldn't it?
It seems highly possible, Dyack did hinted at this as well. But I'm not sure if he could be
the secret Director..... Hmmmm I smell something here.
Maybe we'll hear more stuff today.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 12, 2004, 04:02:15 AM
Post by: StRaNgE on May 12, 2004, 05:01:18 AM
I TOLD YA SO!!!! lol
When ww was announced, I spoke with Nintendo through emails for some time after. They hinted around that the spaceworld demo style was not dead but taking longer then expected. Giving us wind waker to fill the time or something along those lines.
Anyway, years ago it now seems I tried sharing this info here to only be shot down and told I was full of it. Well, now we got the best of both worlds just as promised.
Now all we need is a release date. damn I got lots of money I'll be spending over the next 365 days . time to sell off some of those old unused games finally.
anyone got a link to all the other movie footage ? none of the planet gamecube footage works for me. if only it was mpgs.
Post by: Gamebasher on May 12, 2004, 05:06:15 AM
THEY DID IT!
THEY GAVE US A REALISTIC ZELDA!!!
And I thought that it was all a hoax, when Nintendojo reported on 1. April that it was being made by a third party developer!
THIS, and the Nintendo DS, is what will put Nintendo BACK on the top of videogaming!
Only one thing to say to Nintendo: Thanks a billion!!!
Post by: Nile Boogie on May 12, 2004, 06:04:25 AM
Does anybody eles worry that Ganon won't be in this game. Not because of the plot. Just because Zelda games never release back to back with Ganon as the main villian. But I'm speculating, details must come forth.
Can you imagin the possibilities with DSconectivity, scary, very scary indeed.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 12, 2004, 06:49:17 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on May 12, 2004, 07:24:54 AM
I agree. I loved ED but in terms of raw gameplay it was pretty generic hack 'n' slash and the puzzles were kind of mediocre. It was the sanity effects, the story, the attention to detail, and the spooky atmosphere that made it great. Zelda however can't get by just on storyline and presentation. Gameplay has always been the most important part of the series. Zelda is like the benchmark of gameplay. It's the standard that all other games are weighed against. However we were all worried about Metroid Prime and with Miyamoto overseeing it it turned out to be a classic so as long as Shiggy's got a lot of influence in the design it should turn out great.
"Does anybody eles worry that Ganon won't be in this game."
No. Link's Awakening is my favourite Zelda game and it doesn't take place in Hyrule or have Ganon. All a Zelda game needs is Link and a world of dungeons for him to explore.
After watching the movie a few times there's a few more things I noticed. First of all I love that shot in the forest. It has individual trees! I was really disappointed with how the forest turned out in the N64 games as they were really just green mazes. This forest looks exactly what I envisioned when I first thought of Zelda in 3D. Second this trailer takes place entirely on LAND and it's look pretty wide open too! My biggest complaint with Wind Waker was that the sailing was tedious and the overworld was too bland because of all the water. This looks like they're going to back to the LAND of Hyrule again.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 12, 2004, 07:30:30 AM
I agree. I loved ED but in terms of raw gameplay it was pretty generic hack 'n' slash and the puzzles were kind of mediocre. It was the sanity effects, the story, the attention to detail, and the spooky atmosphere that made it great. Zelda however can't get by just on storyline and presentation. Gameplay has always been the most important part of the series. Zelda is like the benchmark of gameplay. It's the standard that all other games are weighed against. However we were all worried about Metroid Prime and with Miyamoto overseeing it it turned out to be a classic so as long as Shiggy's got a lot of influence in the design it should turn out great.
"Does anybody eles worry that Ganon won't be in this game."
No. Link's Awakening is my favourite Zelda game and it doesn't take place in Hyrule or have Ganon. All a Zelda game needs is Link and a world of dungeons for him to explore.
After watching the movie a few times there's a few more things I noticed. First of all I love that shot in the forest. It has individual trees! I was really disappointed with how the forest turned out in the N64 games as they were really just green mazes. This forest looks exactly what I envisioned when I first thought of Zelda in 3D. Second this trailer takes place entirely on LAND and it's look pretty wide open too! My biggest complaint with Wind Waker was that the sailing was tedious and the overworld was too bland because of all the water. This looks like they're going to back to the LAND of Hyrule again.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 12, 2004, 07:32:42 AM
"After watching the movie a few times there's a few more things I noticed. First of all I love that shot in the forest. It has individual trees! I was really disappointed with how the forest turned out in the N64 games as they were really just green mazes. This forest looks exactly what I envisioned when I first thought of Zelda in 3D."
I'm a sucker for forest stages in games, and it was like Ninty read my thoughts when I saw it...
Post by: almondblight on May 12, 2004, 07:33:15 AM
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Originally posted by: Nile Boogie
Does anybody eles worry that Ganon won't be in this game. Not because of the plot. Just because Zelda games never release back to back with Ganon as the main villian. But I'm speculating, details must come forth.
Worried, no. Hoping? Yes. [and I assume by Ganon you mean Ganondorf, Ganon, or any G-A-N named villain] Personally, I think fighting the same villain over and over agin gets a little old. I wouldn't mind the game opening up with link trouncing him though, then moving on to something else.
Post by: KDR_11k on May 12, 2004, 08:54:05 AM
I think the beginning of the video resembles the opening of OOT and even seems to use the same animations. The horse-to-warthog fighting seems interesting, will we get a lance?
There weren't many environments shown, I'd guess it isn't really far in development. In fact, with those ground textures I'd say they reused OOT's terrain and threw in a few static meshes. The whole thing is probably far from completion, obviously using lots of placeholders.
Post by: Pale on May 12, 2004, 10:04:56 AM
Think of how HOT Princess Zelda is gonna be.... 8^o
Post by: Gibdo Master on May 12, 2004, 10:25:19 AM
I'm really glad to hear the eye tracking will still be in this game. I noticed in the trailer Link's eyes were watching the enemies. I hope the facial expressions will be there too. I was kind of nervous we would lose this stuff with the switch to realistic graphics.
Since this is going to be classified as a more grown-up Zelda game (Miyamoto said so himself) I hope the difficulty level will be increased, especially with the puzzles. I really hope we see some new types of puzzles as well. I'm really sick of the block pushing and lighting torches and other things we've seen a billion times.
One thing that makes me nervous is the idea that someone new is directing the game. I hope Miyamoto and Aonuma are keeping tight reigns on whoever it is. I'm mainly nervous because I'm not a big fan of the Capcom Zeldas. I think Capcom was given way too much freedom to do whatever they wanted to.
Post by: Gibdo Master on May 12, 2004, 10:27:04 AM
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Originally posted by: PaleZer0
All i can say is.....
Think of how HOT Princess Zelda is gonna be.... 8^o
He he, it would be something if they used OoT's style of Great Fairy in this game.
Post by: Oldskool on May 12, 2004, 10:39:03 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill
No, considering the open ending at the end of Wind Waker and that this game is even using the Wind Waker engine(strange, isn't it?) I believe this is Wind Waker 2...
The thing is, I remember somebody from Nintendo (forget who, or in what interview) mentioned that in WW2, Link would be a little older than before... perhaps the new "realistic" look was what he meant. On another forum, somebody came up with the intersting theory that the new look is how Link sees the world through his own eyes at that age, while WW's graphical style was how Link saw the world at a younger age.
Post by: akdaman1 on May 12, 2004, 10:58:20 AM
It was all a ploy to catch us off guard.
Post by: nemo_83 on May 12, 2004, 10:59:46 AM
I can see where the WW has had its affects here with the wonderful lighting and color. The shot with the big red sun over the hilltop looked awesome.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 12, 2004, 11:40:49 AM
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Originally posted by: akdaman1
TBH I dont think there ever was a WW2.
It was all a ploy to catch us off guard.
So Ninty would just leave the end of Wind Waker open like that? I don't think so...
Post by: - NintendoFan - on May 12, 2004, 11:46:36 AM
Post by: akdaman1 on May 12, 2004, 12:14:12 PM
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Originally posted by: BillQuote
Originally posted by: akdaman1
TBH I dont think there ever was a WW2.
It was all a ploy to catch us off guard.
So Ninty would just leave the end of Wind Waker open like that? I don't think so...
Well not all stories have to make sense y'know. I mean look at Resident Evil.
Also there are 2 trailers up of Zelda. Both show the same footage but have different soundtracks.
www.ign.com
www.gametrailers.com
Both are different.
Post by: bostwick202 on May 12, 2004, 12:26:20 PM
*tear rolls down cheeck*
its...just so beautiful
*starts crying uncuntrollably
Post by: nolimit19 on May 12, 2004, 03:08:44 PM
Post by: blackfootsteps on May 12, 2004, 04:13:03 PM
The lord of the rings similarities were endless though. How bout the 'Balrog' Link was fighting?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 12, 2004, 05:26:49 PM
Ocarina of Time bore 2 children: A world of Light, and younger days (Wind Waker); a world of Dark, and days to come (MEGAT0N).
See, we've got the "young" and "adult" perspectives introduced from Ocarina exclusively divided into separate titles; this just coincides with someone's previously mentioned "perspectives" theory. ("mature" sounds dumb. I'm sick of it.)
Days will be happy time when the Legend of Zelda: MEGAT0N hit stores, with a free autographed picture of Capt. Lou Albano.
~~~~~~
OOH and imagine what a girl like MALON would be like in this new game!?
GIVMe TEH RANCH girl!
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on May 12, 2004, 06:08:11 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Second this trailer takes place entirely on LAND and it's look pretty wide open too!
I'm thinking you will be able to get Epona early in the game, b/c who will want to spent ages travelling across a huge wide open Hyrule Field on foot?
I'm really looking forward to battling the lizards on wild boars riding Epona. Imagine a huge battle over Hyrule Field.
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
OOH and imagine what a girl like MALON would be like in this new game!?
GIVMe TEH RANCH girl!
Malon was cute in OoT. I hope she's in the new game with a even better poly count (20k poly model please!)! OMG......I need to go the bathroom....
Post by: Gibdo Master on May 12, 2004, 06:43:13 PM
Post by: yellowfellow on May 12, 2004, 07:34:29 PM
Quotei agree 100% and have been dreaming about something like this for too long... something about wandering alone in the woods when i was younger?
After watching the movie a few times there's a few more things I noticed. First of all I love that shot in the forest. It has individual trees! I was really disappointed with how the forest turned out in the N64 games as they were really just green mazes. This forest looks exactly what I envisioned when I first thought of Zelda in 3D. Second this trailer takes place entirely on LAND and it's look pretty wide open too! My biggest complaint with Wind Waker was that the sailing was tedious and the overworld was too bland because of all the water. This looks like they're going to back to the LAND of Hyrule again.
anyhoo, i've always pictured a battle in a real forest kind of like in ninja scroll... quiet, calm and beautiful and then all hell breaks loose...
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 12, 2004, 07:45:40 PM
Post by: Gibdo Master on May 12, 2004, 08:01:20 PM
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Additionally, this game is the same game that Aonuma referred to as "The Wind Waker 2" back at the Game Developers Conference in March. The game won't be called The Wind Waker 2 when it's completed, and won't be a sequel to the last GameCube Zelda game.
Hmm, I have a feeling WW is going to be brushed off as happening in an alternate reality or timeline and this new game will pick up a few years after MM. If that's the case it's going to add to my feeling of being gypped with WW. It's starting to seem like they threw WW out there just to hold us over till the real deal came out.
Post by: KDR_11k on May 12, 2004, 08:58:02 PM
As for Zelda, I have hopes. Perhaps she won't look like an old slut this time. Link looks more "cute" (less sharp facial features, for example, making him more girlish) than he does in OOT, as well, so maybe the same holds true for Zelda (though she looked exceptionally ugly in Wind Waker).
AiAi: 20k? Perhaps in The Legend of Zelda: Xtreme Beach Volleyball.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 12, 2004, 09:07:21 PM
Post by: - NintendoFan - on May 13, 2004, 02:20:52 AM
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If that's the case it's going to add to my feeling of being gypped with WW. It's starting to seem like they threw WW out there just to hold us over till the real deal came out.
I really have no doubt now that The Wind Waker was there just to hold us off, although a good game, this one seems like it will wipe the floor with it.
And I think you are completely right to consider that you or all of us got gypped with The Wind Waker.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 13, 2004, 04:18:50 AM
Not really...Link and Tetra went out to find the new Hyrule...This could be the land that they found...
"And I think you are completely right to consider that you or all of us got gypped with The Wind Waker."
If you're a clown, that is...
Post by: LordStarfox on May 13, 2004, 04:22:03 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on May 13, 2004, 04:49:47 AM
Come to think of it, what does a Link do after he's done with his quest?
Post by: Shift Key on May 13, 2004, 05:18:10 AM
QuoteAhahahahahaha, is it "Super-Jump-to-Conclusion Day already? Its not a sequel to Wind Waker. Like the first Wind Waker, the Hero of Time (or Winds or Cheese or whatever) is not the same Link in each game, which means zilch connections between games.
I'm speculating that this game is in fact WW2 and that Hyrule has been unflooded and now Link has to get rid of all the evil in it and do some other stuff.
Seriously, I really don't expect the story of this new game to relate much with the other games - MM was only similar because it was set in a "parallel universe" or something. And WW and OoT were separated by a gap of 200 years, so really, there is nothing linking these games apart from Link and possibly Zelda and Ganon/dorf.
So relax, watch the trailers some more, and get ready for some huge surprises!
Post by: DrZoidberg on May 13, 2004, 05:22:33 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on May 13, 2004, 07:29:59 AM
Post by: Caterkiller on May 13, 2004, 09:12:36 AM
Anywho this game does look super amazingly amazing. I was at school in one of my classes yesterday checking on E3 when I first saw it, and I had every Zelda and non-Zelda fan crowded around the computer to see this amazing looking title. But if theres anything im hoping for is to see at least a couple of bright and sunny days with these amazing visuals.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 13, 2004, 10:13:12 AM
Post by: Koopa Troopa on May 13, 2004, 10:32:26 AM
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GRRRR...Let's not turn this into a timeline debate here, but OoT is the first game, as Miyamoto said so...Wind Waker is RIGHT AFTER OoT...Therefore, Hyrule is unflooded sometime after WW for the rest of the games take place or a new Hyrule is founded somewhere else...
Yeah, I really don't understand why everyone has to make it so complicated. So what if the world was flooded? It's a land of magic and mystery, you think it can't be "unflooded"? Or even more simply, as Bill suggested, Hyrule is begun anew somewhere else.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 13, 2004, 10:42:27 AM
Post by: Pale on May 13, 2004, 11:22:24 AM
http://www.palehour.com/index.php?set=visuals&index=76
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 13, 2004, 11:45:14 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 13, 2004, 03:24:32 PM
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 13, 2004, 04:06:54 PM
Link Rocks Bridgets world
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 13, 2004, 04:36:07 PM
Post by: StRaNgE on May 13, 2004, 04:46:20 PM
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And I think you are completely right to consider that you or all of us got gypped with The Wind Waker.
how can anyone think that way?
would you rather have never gotten to play that game?
not like you were forced to go spend money on it. you could have never bought it.
personally i prefer having both over one.
gypped, it is a fun game cartoony or not.
Post by: akdaman1 on May 13, 2004, 10:41:10 PM
If I remember correctly the of Zelda was Link sailing off into the oceon ?
I forgot but didnt it end with Ganandorf being trapped again and Link and Zelda being sent back up to ensure saftey of the world?
Someone please re-jog my memory.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 14, 2004, 01:16:34 AM
Though open-ended, I think it provided a respectable amount of closure to the [CERTAIN] events in Ocarina of Time, which I thought stood fine by itself. Geez, I'm not sure how reasonable it is to ask Nintendo to give us "direct" Zelda "sequels," cuz it's somewhat rediculous that Ganon CAME BACK from previous imprisonment to be the main villain AGAIN, and try to gather the Triumph Forks AGAIN. Remind yourselves of the first 2 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle movies... Shredder... SUPER Shredder.... is once just enough? I don't ask for "Zelda sequels," I ask for "the next Zelda game." What would make it qualify as a sequel in my eyes is how previous gameplay mechanics are inherited from earlier titles, and what new elements are introduced on top of the staples. I'm personally satisfied with The Wind Waker.
About the Royal Family, Link & Tetra (Tingle & Tetra?) will probably extend the family line years down the road, and you know, have a Royal *Family*. But that's besides the point.
Speaking of open-ended, WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO young LINK(and Hyrule) AT THE END OF OCARINA? YOU KNOW, HE PUT THE MASTER SWORD BACK AND MET UP WITH KID ZELDA? OMG WTF WHO'S ASS DOES LINK HAVE TO KICK NEXT IN THIS PRE-EXISTING PEACEFUL LAND OF HYRULE? DOES LINK BECOME A japanese GIRL, ZELDA GET CAGED, AND BREAK DANCE IN SOME STRANGE sUPER fAMICOM COMMERCIAL?
-- I think that's a more important question to ask/answer rather than inquiring about Link/Tetra/Columbus' fantastic voyage in search of the New World. This Ocarina/ending issue pre-dates the Wind Waker/ending issue, right?
~~~~~
HOLY SMOKES I'm envisioning a Zelda game with 2 playable characters that have 2 separate, but related/inter-influencing adventure paths, where you don't reach the end of the game until both paths are completed and the 2 characters finally meet (again?) to face the end stages together.
Post by: - NintendoFan - on May 14, 2004, 02:12:37 AM
Post by: Mario on May 14, 2004, 02:20:13 AM
I also care more about the gameplay additions than the story. While I read what everyone says and watch the cutscenes in Zelda games, it sorta goes right in and then comes straight out, I forget most of what happens, but I enjoy just staring at it... if that makes any sense.
I demand more footage of this new Zelda!
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on May 14, 2004, 04:14:14 AM
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DOES LINK BECOME A japanese GIRL, ZELDA GET CAGED, AND BREAK DANCE IN SOME STRANGE sUPER fAMICOM COMMERCIAL?
HEY! I like that commercial!
Post by: Ian Sane on May 14, 2004, 07:10:39 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 14, 2004, 07:23:39 AM
If that were the case you would have seen more people poking fun at Nintendo instead of at Wind Waker's graphics...
Post by: thecubedcanuck on May 14, 2004, 07:26:13 AM
most people consider them one in the same.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 14, 2004, 08:25:15 AM
Post by: Gibdo Master on May 14, 2004, 08:37:15 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 14, 2004, 08:44:12 AM
In other words, we got half the hotdog, and no ketchup.
Post by: Uglydot on May 14, 2004, 12:07:10 PM
What I REALLY enjoy is how Nintendo mixes graphical style with gameplay. They realize that graphics help create a mood. WW was light hearted and the graphics showed it. The graphics told you, "Hey, this is link when he is younger!". These graphics grab me and say, "Hey, this is link when he is older." I find it so much easier to get into a game and enjoy the story along with gameplay when this is done.
Post by: - NintendoFan - on May 14, 2004, 01:09:38 PM
Hahaha, great way to put it.
Post by: Draygaia on May 14, 2004, 04:46:23 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill
"I was losing faith in Nintendo and the Zelda series but OMG."
You see, it's bullshit like this that separates true Zelda fans from the posers...
Thank you.
Post by: KDR_11k on May 14, 2004, 07:16:53 PM
Post by: akdaman1 on May 14, 2004, 07:40:41 PM
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Originally posted by: DraygaiaQuote
Originally posted by: Bill
"I was losing faith in Nintendo and the Zelda series but OMG."
You see, it's bullshit like this that separates true Zelda fans from the posers...
Thank you.
What is it with you?
I was a little dissapointed in WW so I have to be flamed? It was a good game but no-where near as good as OOT. I found MM and WW to be dissapointments. Its an opinion and respect that. And yes I am a true Zelda fan, just because I dont love every Zelda game doesnt mean that I dont love the series. Grow up. Just because you dont agree with me doesnt mean you have to flame me.
EDIT - IGN just saw the 2 min vid of Zelda and have detailed impressions of what they saw up.
Post by: Nile Boogie on May 14, 2004, 08:09:22 PM
Now all Zelda Timeline ?'s should be refered to that thread in which we discuss the entire Multi-Link theroy throughly.
Another website refers to the New Zelda as the much over-used, overhyped "Never Happening". And as much as I tried to downplay that phase, if anything qualfies as "Never Happening" it should be this and afterwards, that word should be purged from all human knowlege.
Post by: Gibdo Master on May 14, 2004, 10:28:08 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 14, 2004, 11:07:30 PM
Post by: Mannypon on May 15, 2004, 12:27:33 AM
Post by: Shift Key on May 15, 2004, 12:49:56 AM
Post by: Termin8Anakin on May 15, 2004, 03:00:33 AM
That sucked big time. The game was long if you took into account the sidequests, but I would have actually liked it if the game itself, and not the sidequests, was what made the game last longer.
The amount of temples in AlttP was huge, as was OoT. They really should go back to that.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on May 15, 2004, 03:04:54 AM
*Drops to knees, right arm reaching for the heavens*
DAMN YOU NINTENDO, WE HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER YEAR ++ FOR THIS? DAAAAAAAMN YOOOOOOOOU!
*Unirally's up the joint*
Post by: - NintendoFan - on May 15, 2004, 03:29:10 AM
"When it's all over, we ask to watch it again. And then one more time. And another time still. The extended cut, which shows off never-before-seen areas in the game as well as more of Link's abilities, only reinforces our previous opinion of the anticipated action-adventure. It is, put simply, totally kick ass."
"The entire display knocked our socks off. The Legend of Zelda's new look shook E3 and after seeing more elements of the game in motion we're convinced that it's going to take the franchise to new heights, inside and out."
This video clearly shows more Zelda greatness, too bad we arn't able to see it.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 15, 2004, 07:20:47 AM
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Originally posted by: DraygaiaQuote
Originally posted by: Bill
"I was losing faith in Nintendo and the Zelda series but OMG."
You see, it's bullshit like this that separates true Zelda fans from the posers...
Thank you.
What is it with you?
I was a little dissapointed in WW so I have to be flamed? It was a good game but no-where near as good as OOT. I found MM and WW to be dissapointments. Its an opinion and respect that. And yes I am a true Zelda fan, just because I dont love every Zelda game doesnt mean that I dont love the series. Grow up. Just because you dont agree with me doesnt mean you have to flame me.
You just have to deal with the fact that I pounce at anyone who disses ANY Zelda game...The fact that you said that you were "losing faith in the Zelda series" isn't just an "act of disappointment" but a full-out attack on the Zelda series...And for that, I will flame you...End of story...
Post by: - NintendoFan - on May 15, 2004, 08:30:34 AM
I hope you are excluding the CD-i games.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 15, 2004, 08:43:41 AM
Post by: thecubedcanuck on May 15, 2004, 08:56:49 AM
pounce away, IMO WW was horrible. To easy, to repetitive and way to boring.
Hopefully WW2 is much better.
Post by: meldavid on May 15, 2004, 09:03:48 AM
By the looks of the trailer it looks as though Link still has the same battle moves from OOT. I want more moves darnsarnet! Moves such as sword parries, shield barges, kicks, leg sweeps, elbows, striking with the butt of the sword, hell even throwing the sword at an opponent. An older Link would have learnt a few more tricks that's fer sure.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 15, 2004, 09:15:58 AM
I think part of the charm of a Zelda game is the lone adventurer taking on the entire evil himself. The solitude works really well and think the atmosphere would be hurt if additional characters were added. I do however think adding companions would be fine in a Zelda spinoff like a Zelda RPG for example. Or they could make a new Four Swords game where the other characters are actually original and unique and not just Link clones.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 15, 2004, 10:02:15 AM
And yes, there damn better be a love story...
Post by: Nile Boogie on May 15, 2004, 10:09:07 AM
Post by: Oldskool on May 15, 2004, 10:26:13 AM
Post by: Gibdo Master on May 15, 2004, 10:57:53 AM
Post by: akdaman1 on May 15, 2004, 12:35:35 PM
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Originally posted by: BillQuote
Originally posted by: akdaman1Quote
Originally posted by: DraygaiaQuote
Originally posted by: Bill
"I was losing faith in Nintendo and the Zelda series but OMG."
You see, it's bullshit like this that separates true Zelda fans from the posers...
Thank you.
What is it with you?
I was a little dissapointed in WW so I have to be flamed? It was a good game but no-where near as good as OOT. I found MM and WW to be dissapointments. Its an opinion and respect that. And yes I am a true Zelda fan, just because I dont love every Zelda game doesnt mean that I dont love the series. Grow up. Just because you dont agree with me doesnt mean you have to flame me.
You just have to deal with the fact that I pounce at anyone who disses ANY Zelda game...The fact that you said that you were "losing faith in the Zelda series" isn't just an "act of disappointment" but a full-out attack on the Zelda series...And for that, I will flame you...End of story...
Saying I was losing faith is a full-out attack? A full on attack would be - Zelda sucks balls. Why does Link have a boat? Hasnt he taught Epona how to swim? What a stupid horse trainer. Little Kidish graphics. Why is this game so easy? Oh yeah they wanna make it accessiable to dogs and birds. Stupid Nintendo.
That is a full on attack. Dont take everything so seriously. If I didnt love WW doesnt mean I hate the series. I also didnt love MM ( I actually hated it ) but that doesnt mean I hate the series. Its an opinoin. Im not the only one. Over the past few days I have seen countless posts of people saying that thier faith in Nintendo is restored because of Zelda.
Now if you wanna be a little fanboy who attacks anyone who slightly disses your favourite series then fine. But do it by PM because we have just killed this topic.
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 15, 2004, 12:55:13 PM
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Now if you wanna be a little fanboy who attacks anyone who slightly disses your favourite series then fine. But do it by PM because we have just killed this topic.
I don't think he's mad that you didn't like Wind Waker or hated Majora's Mask, he probably just thinks you have some very poor reasons for thinking so. The post also had Bill's unique flare of humor.
Also, never, ever hide behind the excuse "it's my opinion"- that's the one thing on message boards that pisses me off the most. Don't post your opinion on a public forum if you don't want it to be publicly criticized. If you're going to have an opinion, prepare to justify it- I'm not saying you haven't or won't, but there's absolutely no reason to even bring up the fact that you're entitled to our opinion because it doesn't hold any bearing in the discussion at all. You may be entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't mean we aren't entitled to our own opinion conerning it. Sorry for getting off-topic, but I see this hapenning a lot.
Post by: thecubedcanuck on May 15, 2004, 01:06:44 PM
"Also, never, ever hide behind the excuse "it's my opinion""
Talk about arrogant. HE doesnt need an f'in reason, he can simply just not like it. I also see no need for him to justify an opinion to anyone here. Not everyone is a Zelda kiss arse, and they dont need to explain why.
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 15, 2004, 01:07:53 PM
*Neatly sidesteps pointless vitriolic argument*
How about them horses?
You guys think there'll be a boss you'll need the horse to get past? Because I can just imagine it, you know... line up with the enemy and charge, dodging whatever he throws at you, cutting him, turning around for another charge.
Sort of like medieval times where you had these two knights charging each other... in fact I want that to be a minigame.
It makes me froth at the mouth... my paladin-ness has been awakened.
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 15, 2004, 01:12:55 PM
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Talk about arrogant. HE doesnt need an f'in reason, he can simply just not like it. I also see no need for him to justify an opinion to anyone here. Not everyone is a Zelda kiss arse, and they dont need to explain why.
If they're not going to explain why then they shouldn't complain when their opinions are criticized. If you can't justify your opinion then what's the point in having it at all? I don't care if you don't like Zelda- I don't care if you don't like ANY game- you just better have a good reason. You don't have to justify your opinion, just don't get pissed off when people get on your case for it.
Anyway, I've said too much already, so that's my final word on the subject.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 15, 2004, 01:45:28 PM
Post by: thecubedcanuck on May 15, 2004, 02:01:40 PM
actually I prefer Tigerwoods 2004 and NHL 2004 over Madden.
As for Zelda, the new games does "look" great, but I have never really liked any of the Zelda games. They just arent my cup of tea. I will try the new game when it is out, as I have done the others. Hopefully this one sticks.
"I don't care if you don't like ANY game- you just better have a good reason."
LOL, get over yourself son.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 15, 2004, 02:17:12 PM
If they cut back on the sailing, upped the difficulty to the point where you actually die a few times (I've never seen the Wind Waker game over screen), and had more dungeons a game made in the same style of Wind Waker could easily be on par with the best Zelda titles. If this new realistic Zelda is just as easy as Wind Waker and has some lame fetch quest in place of more dungeons then I'll criticize it just as much.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 15, 2004, 02:26:56 PM
And I agree with the fact that WW isn't the best Zelda game, and it would be silly to think so...But I do place the game higher on my list(though it's not a large gap) than OoT...I like Link's Awakening and LttP much more... ^_^
(And you have to realize that the difficulty problem is something you can find in a lot of Nintendo games, mainly because they are focusing on a range of gaming ages, as well as the fact that the Japanese like easier games...)
Post by: Mario on May 15, 2004, 03:16:46 PM
I hope Nintendo releases a Wind Waker: Master Quest someday.
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 15, 2004, 03:25:21 PM
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I hope Nintendo releases a Wind Waker: Master Quest someday.
THAT would please all the people who said Wind Waker was too easy.
I racked my brain over OoT: Master Quest, especially since I kept trying to do the dungeons the way I thought I was supposed to.
Post by: ThePerm on May 15, 2004, 03:32:26 PM
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 15, 2004, 05:29:16 PM
We'll have to wait for more info, anyone know if there will be a SpaceWorld this year? Could be a nice time to show it off more and give some info.
I think Bill is after Cubed and all his friends
Post by: Ocarina Blue on May 15, 2004, 07:32:23 PM
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Am I the only one who likes Majoras Mask more than Ocarina of Time?
Absolutely not, though we seem to be a minority. I don´t like the dungeons in MM anywhere near as much as I do the ones in OoT, but the storytelling aspect and re-occuring themes seal it for me. I just traded in my Cube and bought another one with the collector´s disc to play this game, and I´m loving it.
Honestly guys, you need to calm down. This incessant bickering in almost any topic related to online/WW really pulls the forum down.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 15, 2004, 07:57:16 PM
I don't need Contra hard or anything. I just need to die a few times or come close to it to give that feeling that when I encounter a bad guy I'm in danger. I didn't have that feeling of fear in Wind Waker. I rarely even used up any fairies. In the N64 games I would enter a dungeon with four bottled fairies and by the time I got out of there I had lost at least one of them. Towards the end of the game I would usually only have one left or none. It just has to be that hard. Considering Ocarina of Time sold huge lowering the difficulty to appeal more to kids or Japanese gamers isn't necessary.
And if Japanese gamers like easier games why are shooters so popular there? I always found that really weird. Those games are the hardest there is.
"Am I the only one who likes Majoras Mask more than Ocarina of Time?"
For a while I thought I did like MM more until I played Ocarina again on the Cube. I find OoT is more consistently well made overall. I really loved the side quests and the three day cycle in MM but I didn't like the way there was a time limit for the dungeons or how you couldn't save any time. Plus the reusing of character models was really lame. Still MM is easily on par with OoT and I didn't feel let down by it at all. Majora's Mask is a game that I would consider essential for any gamer to play. It's a perfect example of innovation in a sequel that doesn't hurt the familiar feel of the game.
Post by: Rich on May 15, 2004, 08:29:36 PM
Post by: Ocarina Blue on May 15, 2004, 08:34:58 PM
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as well as the fact that the Japanese like easier games
I know this is said a lot, but where exactly does it come from? I´m not necessarily questioning it, but I´ve never seen and sales figures or anything that suggest it.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 15, 2004, 08:44:05 PM
Sorry for the confusion but when I said "shooter" I specifically meant "shmup". Games like Gradius and R-Type that require twitch reflexes and are really hard. I guess I'm just being a geezer gamer but I always associate those games with the term "shooter". First person shooters are way different and I don't think they sell well at all in Japan.
Post by: KDR_11k on May 15, 2004, 09:04:11 PM
.As for the OOT vs. WW debate, I don't know how you can consider OOT superior. Sure, it has more dungeons and stuff, but Wind Waker had the BETTER dungeons. I admit I'm not further than the forest temple yet, but so far each dungeon annoyed me more than the previous one. When I wasn't fighting with the camera, it was the godawful lock-on system (thanks, but I'm used to being able to lock on when it's clear which one I want to target, NOT wait until that stupid fairy finishes flying over there). Those Octorocks became REALLY annoying, too. Also, not being able to skip text scrolling is one of the things that annoy me the most in japanese games and OOT strikes the bull's eye here. The travel distances were annoying as well and seem almost longer than WW's (even though that could be attributed to WW's more interesting map). I barely explore the world because you have to run 5 minutes to get anywhere. WW isn't the best Zelda game ever (that honor belongs to one of the 2d games), but it sure as hell is better than that annoy-a-thon OOT. In my oppinion OOT is too dark and the new game seems to go into the same direction. Bah.
As for the new Zelda, we'll see. They should be able to make better dungeons than in OOT and they probably will use the controls of Wind Waker or even improve on them. The game has the potential to be great, let's hope they use it.
Post by: Mannypon on May 15, 2004, 09:33:07 PM
In my oppinion OOT is too dark and the new game seems to go into the same direction. Bah."
You say the best zelda belongs to the 2d games and argueably a link to the past for snes is hailed as the best. Then you go and say OOT is too dark and how the new one is headed in that direction. A Link to the Past is way darker than OOT. The reason it isnt viewed in that light is becuase the graphics werent as advanced back then to portray everything. In LttP, the game starts out in a dark stormy night, you go to the castle and find your uncle ( I think he was his uncle) dieing. When has anyone died in a zelda game, I cant really remember many. The alternate world in LttP is way darker than the future in OoT. The dark theme has been there for years, now is only when its become apparent becuase of the level of graphics today. I am a big fan of WW and OoT (and every major zelda release lol) Each give you a different feel and I appreciate both. WW makes you feel like a kid in a story book adventure wheres OoT and I'm guessin the new zelda will give a feel of a adventure just with a more dramatic, serious visual tone.
Post by: Ocarina Blue on May 15, 2004, 09:33:34 PM
I think the best way to rank the overall popularity of the Zelda games would be to find the proportion of their console´s userbase that bought the game.
Post by: Mannypon on May 15, 2004, 09:37:12 PM
Post by: akdaman1 on May 15, 2004, 11:49:13 PM
Also to Mouse and Bill - I did post an explanation but the page screwed up. Its a problem with my anti-virus. O.K. The reason I didnt LOVE Zelda was because of the difficulty, the sailing and the length.
TBH I am a major Zelda fan.
When I first played OOT it quickly became my favourite ever game. It only had one flaw and that was the Water and Shadow temples. I loved it.
When I bought a PS1 I never looked back on my N64 and never knew that there was a Majoras Mask. So when I found out about MM I borrowed it off a friend and played it. Now Im not sure if its because of it being last generation or me not liking the concept but I absouloutly HATED the game.
But this didnt turn me off WW. Oh hell no. When WW came out I was the happiest person ever. I was LOVING the game. It went down as the best ever ...until ... The sailing grew tedious. I realised that the challenge was never coming. The last 2 dungeons sucked ass. I still liked the game but to me it was a dissapointment. It wasnt cause of the Cel-shading. I would have welcomed the cel-shading as long as thier was no sailing. Although I would much rather have the more Gritty look that we are getting now.
Now onto the rest of the Zelda series. I have played them but I dont like them. I am not a huge fan of gameboy games. The only gameboy game I ever liked was Fire Emblem and Mario and Luigi.
Although my track record with the Zelda series aint good. I still believe it is a great series and one of the best ever.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 16, 2004, 05:29:00 AM
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as well as the fact that the Japanese like easier games
I know this is said a lot, but where exactly does it come from? I´m not necessarily questioning it, but I´ve never seen and sales figures or anything that suggest it.
You can even find this in reviews in gaming mags such as Famitsu...They knocked F-Zero's score down a bit thanks to an upped difficulty...
(And how can you be a Zelda fan without even liking LttP or LA? Meh!)
Post by: Oldskool on May 16, 2004, 05:56:16 AM
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 16, 2004, 06:27:16 AM
Link was badassified
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 16, 2004, 06:39:14 AM
Looks like they are in this game ( they were also in LOZ:AOL )
this is the first time I've seen them come back. Kinda cool, I hope we'll see more enemies, and new ones as well.
Also if you look at the clips while Link is fightining in the dark in the forest, it kinda looks like a Lizafos, but yet it doesn't. It's hard to make out.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 16, 2004, 06:43:34 AM
(Oh, and the creatures that Link is fighting in the forest are Bokoblins...)
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 16, 2004, 07:16:04 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill
Wolf-creatures? In the trailer I see WW-style Bokoblins(some of which are on wild boars) and Moblin, OoT-style Lizalfos, a new black blob-like creature that walks on 2 feet/hands, and the fire Moblin...Nothing else...
(Oh, and the creatures that Link is fighting in the forest are Bokoblins...)
No bill, take a closer look, in the forest during the Day, Link is fighting a wolf in a robe with an arrow. it wasn't a Bokoblin, as it looked too much like a wolf/dog.
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 16, 2004, 07:22:07 AM
take a look at that, that's the part I'm talking about. it looks too Canine, thus why I believe it's those from aol ( Adventure of Link )
Post by: KDR_11k on May 16, 2004, 07:51:56 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 16, 2004, 09:15:52 AM
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(And how can you be a Zelda fan without even liking LttP or LA? Meh!)
I have a friend who thought they were both pretty boring and didn't like them at all- I'm pretty sure he's mentally retarded.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 16, 2004, 09:25:32 AM
I think the picture is too blurry to really tell what it is but in the forest scenes in the video that's what I thought that was. Those fox archer dudes in Castlevania: Circle of the Moon were what first came to mind.
On the topic of enemies I want to see Goriyas come back. For those that don't remember they're giant rats that throw boomerangs. Those would look so cool in this style of graphics.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 16, 2004, 09:38:20 AM
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http://media.cube.ign.com/media/572/572738/img_2123602.html
take a look at that, that's the part I'm talking about. it looks too Canine, thus why I believe it's those from aol ( Adventure of Link )
That's a Bokoblin...
Notice it's the same enemy as shown here...
Post by: Mannypon on May 16, 2004, 09:55:31 AM
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 16, 2004, 10:46:19 AM
The land looks different from TooT, as there's more foilage, trees as far as the eye can see.
I hope there's vasts lands and areas to explore with your trusty stead. But will the Master Sword return?
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 16, 2004, 11:04:31 AM
As for the return of the Master Sword, that depends on when in the timeline the game takes place...(I strongly doubt this is OoT Link)
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 16, 2004, 11:12:17 AM
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As for the return of the Master Sword, that depends on when in the timeline the game takes place...(I strongly doubt this is OoT Link)
I think the only Zelda games not to have the Master Swords were the sidestories (Link's Awakening an Majora's Mask) and LoZ and AoL, which were made before the Master Sword was first introduced. I wouldn't worry about not seeing the Master Sword again, unless this is a sidestory, too.
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 16, 2004, 01:45:53 PM
You cannot deny the final Master Sword kicked all sorts of ass.
Post by: Gamefreak on May 16, 2004, 02:49:33 PM
This is what a Lizalfos is supposed to look like. (EDIT - if you can't see the pic, just copy it into the address bar and press enter)
As for the Master sword, they should use the silver one. This seems possible since the new GBA Zelda has the silver one on it's logo....
And they should have master sword upgrading, but different from WW.
I think that when you first get it it should be the standard silver Master Sword (not the toy blue one...that wouldn't look right in this game). Then when you upgrade it they should switch the steel blade with a diamond one.
Imagine how cool that would look. A brilliant diamond blade, with amazing lighting and light filtering effects...and whenever you L-target and enemy it would glow a pure brilliant white (like WW except pure white, not bluish white..).
The lighting could truly look amazing...Ganon had his yellow crystal swords in the final battle in Ocarina, so Link should have a white crystal/diamond blade!
When I grow up and become a Well Paid Rich Person, I'm going to send in a huge team to south africa and find the biggest diamond ever. And have it made into a diamond katana.
Pimp.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 16, 2004, 03:41:30 PM
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As for the return of the Master Sword, that depends on when in the timeline the game takes place...(I strongly doubt this is OoT Link)
I think the only Zelda games not to have the Master Swords were the sidestories (Link's Awakening an Majora's Mask) and LoZ and AoL, which were made before the Master Sword was first introduced. I wouldn't worry about not seeing the Master Sword again, unless this is a sidestory, too.
But think of the end of Wind Waker...If this game takes place right after it (which I'd prefer), then it's unlikely you will gain the Master Sword thanks to its resting place in Ganondorf's head...If this takes place sometime before, or a 1000 years after, then the likelihood of finding the Master Sword will be greater...
Post by: Gamefreak on May 16, 2004, 03:51:26 PM
In Ocarina he did all that stuff. Then went back to being ten. In Majora he's slightly older and goes on a new romp. And finally the story of the Hero of Time's life would be finished in this game. Perhaps someone frees Ganon. Maybe during his romp in termina something happened back in Hyrule?... I think the OoT/MM storyline is the best of the Zelda series and deserves a good finale game.
Post by: Shift Key on May 16, 2004, 04:34:22 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 16, 2004, 04:44:25 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 16, 2004, 05:01:39 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 16, 2004, 05:14:50 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 16, 2004, 05:34:01 PM
But the Links that followed didn't necessarily have to be direct descendants, but as I believe, that the spirit of Link arises when it is needed...
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 16, 2004, 05:36:18 PM
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 16, 2004, 06:58:07 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill
I really dislike the idea of jumping back and forth between timelines...As far as I'm concerned, the OoT timeline is complete, with Link stuck in Termina...
Link was never Stuck in Termina, He went back to Hyrule at the end. Have you gotten every mask in the game?
As that's the ending I saw, with link going home.
Post by: Shift Key on May 16, 2004, 08:51:21 PM
QuoteYES! The underwater Hyrule castle scene was the highlight for me, particularly the jaw-dropping moment of seeing the statue of the Hero of Time
I loved the throwbacks in Wind Waker.
Mouse: I meant to refer to MM, not the Wind Waker, as the strange relationship with OoT. Whoops.
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 17, 2004, 03:19:48 AM
Anyway, that moment when you first step foot in Hyrule and the Temple of Time was one of the most incredible moments in a videogame ever- the only scene I think can surpass it is the ending to Ico.
Post by: Shift Key on May 17, 2004, 03:35:44 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 17, 2004, 06:00:28 AM
While seeing Hyrule was an amazing experience, I also awed at seeing the Forest Haven for the first time...To this day I love walking around in there... <3 forests
Post by: Gamebasher on May 17, 2004, 06:23:27 AM
Nintendo has said they already have a quest for the game, but do you get any answers now? No, you get the answers when the game is ready for the showfloor demo at next years E3 show!
I just think this debate is going too far. Too much squabbling back and forth.
All I do now is look every week for news from Nintendo, and apart from that try to concentrate on all the beautifull things that I will see in the life right now and of course when the new Zelda with our long sought realistic graphics comes out!
I can´t stand futile speculation, such as what presents I get for Christmas. They remain the same nomatter what I think they will be, same with the new Zelda! Let the creators do the job, and discuss it when you´ve got a copy of it in your hands!
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 17, 2004, 09:01:13 AM
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 17, 2004, 09:16:23 AM
SpaceWorld must Happen!!! Hey Bloodworth, Rick, Ty, anyone of you know if Nintendo plans to held one this yr.?
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 17, 2004, 10:05:44 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 17, 2004, 11:30:24 AM
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Well to be honest, I was basing all of the MM stuff off of what I saw a friend do...I can't bring myself to complete a timed Zelda game...
WHAT?!? A self-professed Zelda fan hasn't beaten Majora's Mask?!? This is a travesty! You have to beat Majora's Mask before I even consider your opinions on Zelda worthwhile, Bill. And you go around saying other people aren't true Zelda fans.
If you have to, use the Backwards Song of Time (makes time go 3 times slower).
Post by: CHEN on May 17, 2004, 11:56:54 AM
Basically multiple orgasms yadda yadda to my actual contribution to this thread...
What I'm still missing from the Legend of Zelda storyline is how Gannondorf became Ganon. Yes I know he was present in OoT, but he wasn't permanently transformed to the pig-like Ganon. And I think, with the spooky atmosphere present in this future game, that it's the perfect opportunity to develop his metamorphosis.
What I'm thinking is that his thirst for the two remaining triforces will make him become schizofrenic. The voice in his head demands him to do evil deeds, to destroy his homeplace Gerudo. He doesn't want to, because he still has some human emotions (as described in The Wind Waker as 'envy'). He goes mad and he unleashes his madness upon Hyrule. He tries hard to resist the process of becoming true evil incarnated. But in the end he knows it's inevitable and he slowly succumbs to the maddening voice in his head and finally transforms into Ganon. Then Link will know this is going to be his most fiercesome battle ever as he sees Ganon towering above him. One of the greatest battles of all time will ensue, the outcome of this battle between good and evil will change the world forever. Who will be victorious?
Something similar to this and I can die a happy man.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 17, 2004, 12:08:06 PM
Originally I assumed that he made the transformation into Ganon at the end of Ocarina of Time when he was trapped in the sacred realm which I assumed was the same as the Golden Land in A Link to the Past. Then Nintendo screwed it all up by having him appear as Ganondorf in a second game. D'oh! The origin is decribed in LttP. He was a thief who travelled to the Golden Land in search of the Triforce and was sealed their by the elders (I think). He's a pig creature because the Golden Land (or dark world if you prefer) transforms everyone unless they hold the moon pearl.
Though the way Nintendo seems to have no problem with creating huge inconsistencies with the Zelda plot line (or any of their plot lines for that matter) I wouldn't be surprised if they started acting like Ganon and Ganondorf are two different guys. They probably wouldn't even notice they changed something.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 17, 2004, 12:09:54 PM
Don't be basing my Zelda status on a timed sidestory...
Oh, and about the Ganondorf problem...It's one of the most difficult to answer, and it might be best to just ignore it...However, it's my belief that Ganondorf becomes Ganon when he has full control of the Triforce...In Wind Waker, he's not given the chance to use it thanks to the King using it's power before he... (Oh, and remember Ian, when you leave the Sacred Realm/Golden Land you become your usual self, so that could be an explanation of Ganondorf becoming himself again in WW)
Post by: CHEN on May 17, 2004, 12:33:27 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
The origin is decribed in LttP. He was a thief who travelled to the Golden Land in search of the Triforce and was sealed their by the elders (I think). He's a pig creature because the Golden Land (or dark world if you prefer) transforms everyone unless they hold the moon pearl.
That's odd, I've never read that before in the game. When does it describe the transformation? *plays ALttP again*
And that doesn't explain why he's a pig-like creature in the first Zelda's where there wasn't a Golden Land. This Legend of Zelda timeline confuses me greatly.
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 17, 2004, 12:41:29 PM
Post by: Gamefreak on May 17, 2004, 12:58:53 PM
But he had the Triforce of Power, which apparently grants the user some sort of immortality because he came back to life as Ganon. It seems that he took on the shape of Ganon because that is what was in his heart (like remember in LttP, people in the game tell you that if you go to the dark world without a moon pearl you will turn into whatever is in your heart....Link turns into a pink bunny...). Remember at the end of Ocarina of Time Link and Zelda couldn't kill Ganon....at the very end Link impales the Master Sword straight into Ganon's brain...but Ganon still doesn't die, and the Sages have to imprison him to the Golden realm.
Now, WW takes place a couple of centuries later right? Ganon breaks out of the golden realm...but he's now back to his Gerudo self. Obviously this is not explained, but I think the solution is obvious. He can use the Triforce of Power to turn back to his human self. I mean, it should be possible right? The Triforce of Power is a powerful magic artifact...it is the embodiment of the power of a goddess. So I think it's fair to assume that it can easily turn Ganon into Ganondorf and vice versa.
EDIT: Oh yeah, and Ganon did revert back to human form right when he was being banished...I think he did that voluntarily so he could curse Link and his descendents. I still think that his precious allows him the change back and forth at will....or maybe under certain conditions. Besides, Zelda can use her Triforce to change into sheik (who was a male in Ocarina of Time...but for some reason a boobless female in Smash Bros...In the smash bros melee manual it calls sheik a she, and also in the trophy screens...and shieks voice sounds like a girl trying to be a guy...but if you look at sheik's model it looks like a sort of skinny but muscular guy...but without boobs....but then again also without that other thing that guys have... o_O ...anyway in OoT i personally think it's quite obvious that Shiek is a male, even though he still has some traces of feminity like zelda's eyes...although you wouldn't know unless you knew that was Zelda...) So anyway....
Now, enough bickering about the pointless story things...Lets talk about what makes Zelda great, the gameplay.
And since we are on the topic of triumph forks, lets start with that. We already know that Ganon(dorf) can use the triforce of power for all sorts of misdeeds like calling a dark army to his control and using dark magic and fun stuff like that. And Zelda and Shiek can obviously make good use of the Triforce of Wisdom...Zelda uses it to turn into Shiek, and magically open doors, and hold down Ganon so link can slice him up...not to mention all that Smash Bros. magic.
But what about link and his triforce? Why doesn't he get any special powers??? You could say it gives him super strength because well, by the time you have lots of hearts you can basically take a dozen times more damage that any other human. But still....I think link needs to develop some triforce powers in the next game. Maybe they could be magic powers...(like the medallions in LttP and the crystals in OoT)...or they could be instrinsic powers...like the force abilities in the Jedi Knight games...temporary super speed to deal with a roomful of enemies or something...I'm sure they could think of much more original powers.
Also, they need more moves in this game...more like the swordfighting movesets in Soul Calibur, not just the standard left slash, right slash, stab, and chop, of OoT/MM/WW.
Also it would be nice to be able to get some weapons that aren't swords. Maybe a spear? Throw it at an enemy and impale him, then finish everyone else off with dual daggers, then go pick up your spear again...Actually this is already in WW, but it's all clunky and unrefined. In the new game you should be able to pick up an enemy weapon and use it just like your own (not just the 2 moves from wind waker: attack and thrown). You should also be able to jump attack and parry with them... these moves use the A button but in WW pressing a would throw the weapon. Pressing R would drop it, disabling blocking (with either your shield or the weapon itself). They should make dropping and throwing done by, say, holding R and then pressing A...
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 17, 2004, 01:11:29 PM
He gets what the Triforce of Courage gives him, Courage...No special powers, just courage...But it's that courage that allows him to face his destiny...(Triforce powers...lol)
But expect attacks/enemy weapon attacks to become more indepth in the next game...
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 17, 2004, 01:51:46 PM
Post by: CHEN on May 17, 2004, 01:57:56 PM
You'd have to realize this is Zelda, Gamefreak, and not Soul Calibur or whatever. Making the gameplay different and fresh is one thing, but making it a combo-fest like Ninja Gaiden is a bit over the top in my opinion. I'm glad they're going back to the top-down view, oldskool style. There could be camera issues along the way, but I'm sure Nintendo will solve it brilliantly as always.
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 17, 2004, 03:13:20 PM
There will most likely be more moves for link, atleast he's wearing armor, a chain-link mail.
I like to see more magical items in this games kinda like alttp had.
The forests look vast and pretty, I wonder how many towns, npcs, taverns etc. will be in the game?
Post by: Gamefreak on May 17, 2004, 05:35:56 PM
Like Miyamoto said, this is adult Link, and they will evolve the gameplay to match that. And the combat system is part of the gameplay. And it really does not an upgrade because apart from Advent. of Link there has only been to combat systems...the top down style and the OoT 3D style.
The OoT combat needs to evolve....Besides, the N64 couldn't handle that many enemies. The most Stalfos you'd fight at once was 3. In WW with the GCN's power you have LttP amounts of enemies. Remember when you first pulled the Master Sword? A castle full of Moblins and Darknuts. OoT's system is good for one on one fights...but it looks like this new game will have Link partaking in 25 on 1 fragfests....and you've got to keep the combat system intuitive and up to date with that. Like the ability to target more than one enemy.
You could easily target say...3 enemies. Link would be actually directly tracking one, but would still note the location of the other 2 (would tie in great with eye tracking)...so if there happened to be an instanct where to enemies are close together Link could attack both, etc...
I wonder if there will be any other animals for Link to right?...What about getting some sort of Pegasus or Gryphon or something later on...flying around Hyrule would be Pimp.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 17, 2004, 06:03:28 PM
It sounds like you're looking for a way to quickly switch targets (I happen to use the L-trigger click for such things in WW.... and the short spin attack) or you're expecting a Jet Li jumping SPLIT KICK.
WUHH-TAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!
Post by: KDR_11k on May 17, 2004, 09:10:28 PM
Additional powers from the Triforce? Hell yeah, imagine Link running into battle, shouting "Henshin a Go Go, Baby!"
I don't think we need a more complicated battle system. Perhaps make it more important (currently it's just buttonmash + counter), but not more complicated.
I'd like to see different kinds of weapons that you can holster, so when first approaching you throw a javelin into the enemy group, pull out a halberd to keep them at distance and only once they're really close draw your sword to get down to business.
Post by: GoldShadow1 on May 18, 2004, 05:48:25 AM
Post by: Pale on May 18, 2004, 12:27:10 PM
I particularly loved the guys you had to get at from behind in order to cut their armor off of it.
Post by: Mannypon on May 18, 2004, 02:41:24 PM
lol. I'll see if I give it a shot some other time.
Post by: Ocarina Blue on May 18, 2004, 06:53:03 PM
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I'm more than half-way through the game, Mousie, but I just don't feel like finishing it...It's not that I'm not able to complete the game in the time given, but the fact that I'm being timed in a game that is all about taking your time...
I really disagree with this. As long as you slow down time, it should be enough. I think there was only once when I had to go back half-way through a dungeon, and it wasn´t that bad.
I saw the passing of time more a gate to interesting character relationships and more game-content than one of those bloody grey boulders that block your path. I would really recommend playing it more, even if you have to endure the dungeons. I traded in my Cube and bought another one so I could get the disc and once again play MM.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 18, 2004, 07:27:10 PM
Wha? O_o
The thing is, I'm not someone who wants to rush to the next dungeon right away...I like exploring around, just to see what kind of new things I can find...I'm just not allowed that kind of freedom in MM...(I spent more than half my gaming time in my first time through WW just sailing around doing pointless things. I probably spent hours of time just running around Hyrule Field in OoT with the Bunny Hood. It's a shame I couldn't do the same in MM, because it truely was a well-produced game)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 18, 2004, 07:31:09 PM
If you're not gonna rush thru a dungeon, then help out the NPCs and their little issues. The NPC experience in MM is richer than WW and OoT's combined, AND I LOVED IT. MALON HUGGED ME. I FELT HER "TRACTS OF LAND."
Post by: Ocarina Blue on May 18, 2004, 07:40:26 PM
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"I saw the passing of time more a gate to interesting character relationships"
Wha? O_o
Yeah, that was definately the wrong term, sorry. Perhaps ´character development´ would be more apropriate. The emphasis on charaters is something that shows how Nintendo is willing to change the series. If I was making the series, I wouldn´t have dreamed of bringing in a mechanic that restricts environmental exploration in favour character exploration; but Nintendo did, and I think I like the game better for it.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 18, 2004, 07:42:25 PM
Post by: Gibdo Master on May 21, 2004, 07:55:22 PM
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Wham!: Can you give us some examples of how this adventure will be more adult and more mature?
SM: Link as a character will be taller with longer limbs, so we’re going to have a lot more sword fighting and action elements like we saw in a game like Zelda II: The Adventure of Link. And then of course we’ll have to have a lot of cool items that we can have Link using in different poses.
Post by: mjbd on May 22, 2004, 02:23:15 PM
Post by: Smashman on May 23, 2004, 05:23:36 AM
I just hope this will surely make up for the disappointment of Wind Waker.
Post by: Mannypon on May 23, 2004, 09:08:52 AM
Post by: Hybrid Hunter on May 24, 2004, 04:05:12 AM
My friend who didn't get a Gamecube until recently didn't know much about WW as he didn't keep up with Nintendo news because he didn't have one, so i lent him WW and now he absolutely loves the game. In fact, he still has my game! I gotta get it back from him.
Post by: mjbd on May 24, 2004, 01:09:03 PM
Post by: Smashman on May 24, 2004, 03:10:42 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 24, 2004, 06:07:41 PM
Umm yeah.
Post by: Smashman on May 26, 2004, 02:16:19 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 26, 2004, 02:30:55 AM
By [you] saying it wasn't as good as OoT, you, in effect, compared it to OoT, despite the fact you said earlier, "It would be foolish to compare this to Ocarina of Time." Does that make you foolish?
I didn't say anything regarding myself; what I said was with regards to what you said. It was never about what I thought, and it's clear I did not recently mention what I thought.
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For the record, I don't think WW is as good as OoT, but I think it was still PRETTY DAMN GOOD.
Like comparing hamburgers from Carl's Jr... I don't think the Western Bacon Cheeseburger truly stands up to the DOUBLE Western Bacon Cheeseburger, but the the Western Bacon is still PRETTY DAMN GOOD.
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 26, 2004, 09:15:14 AM
So for those that think this graphics style is a cop out, sorry try again, Miyamato had already stated years ago that a 3D version of link might return.
As for a future cel-shaded style, wait until the next zelda game featuring Link as a kid and see what graphics style is chosen
to finalize let me summarize in a way understandable by anyone (even Bush
)Adult: 3D
Child: Cel-shaded
Post by: mjbd on May 26, 2004, 02:18:45 PM
Post by: Uglydot on May 26, 2004, 02:28:17 PM
Edit: For completeness, I liked LttP, LoZ and AoL.
Post by: KDR_11k on May 26, 2004, 10:22:22 PM
BTW, how many people noticed that Super Mario Sunshine was technically cel shaded?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 26, 2004, 11:33:43 PM
Post by: reviewgamer on May 27, 2004, 06:34:52 PM
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 27, 2004, 06:51:33 PM
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Originally posted by: reviewgamer
i would gladly kill my family to play this game for just 5 mins
You sir, are one sic MO FO, I can understand the anticipation for the game, but to go as far as to say that... There's something seriously wrong with you.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on May 29, 2004, 12:44:12 AM
Post by: WackerJr on May 29, 2004, 04:12:42 AM
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Originally posted by: AiAi
Ummmm..........MysticGohan, have you heard of something called humor?
If he's English then probably not. He would however, have heard of something called humour!
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 29, 2004, 05:15:04 AM
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Originally posted by: AiAi
Ummmm..........MysticGohan, have you heard of something called humor?
Only when it's actually funny AiAi, That wasn't it.
Post by: Hybrid Hunter on May 30, 2004, 02:43:13 AM
Plus, if you were to kill your family just to play it, wouldn't you want to play it for more than 5 minutes? I know i would!! But then i wouldn't kill my family in the first place.
Post by: KDR_11k on May 30, 2004, 06:17:47 AM
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 30, 2004, 11:40:25 AM
Because then I couldn't play it.
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 30, 2004, 01:06:43 PM
Post by: Infernal Monkey on May 30, 2004, 03:04:44 PM
"You can play this for five minutes!"
"Alright, time to kill my family!"
*Builds walls around the family members, speeds up time, they die*
Ahaha, they do water wee wees in The Sims. Urine is nooooo good.
Post by: CHEN on June 02, 2004, 04:51:08 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 02, 2004, 01:12:15 PM
This guy's got huevos!
Post by: MysticGohan24 on June 02, 2004, 10:07:51 PM
I hope we'll here more news about this Zelda, I hope Nintendo will have a SpaceWorld, Maybe Bloodworth or Johnny knows.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 02, 2004, 10:48:00 PM
I believe it's from... MS Internet Explorer!
Post by: MysticGohan24 on June 03, 2004, 11:03:51 AM
it's showing on mine.It's Link riding a Horse in the forest from the new Legend of Zelda
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 03, 2004, 11:36:12 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 03, 2004, 12:50:53 PM
Post by: MysticGohan24 on June 03, 2004, 01:10:17 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on June 03, 2004, 01:32:49 PM
Post by: MysticGohan24 on June 03, 2004, 07:19:06 PM
either case....... it is working.
Post by: mouse_clicker on June 03, 2004, 07:22:28 PM
Post by: MysticGohan24 on June 03, 2004, 07:40:35 PM
Ah well, aslong as 96% of the people here can see it, that's all that matters.
Perhaps Bloodworth or Johnny would have a better understanding why other's are having problems seeing it, while the rest do not.
Post by: Don'tHate742 on June 04, 2004, 04:47:45 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 04, 2004, 07:50:33 PM
I must be gif-blind or something. It's an epidemic.
Post by: KDR_11k on June 05, 2004, 04:57:07 AM
Post by: PaLaDiN on June 05, 2004, 06:15:32 AM
Sorry, I'm not usually this anal, but it's voilà. "wa la" means "boy" in arabic. Or "and not" depending on the context.
And the icon thing, yeah, you have to view it directly.
Back on topic, the Zelda trailer does indeed rock. I want to see the extended one... it's not fair.
Why would they hide it from the public anyway? I don't get it. And how come they let IGN describe it but not show it?
Post by: MysticGohan24 on June 05, 2004, 07:05:46 AM
Post by: Hybrid Hunter on June 06, 2004, 04:10:52 AM
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on June 06, 2004, 04:41:27 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 06, 2004, 02:05:31 PM
[We're sick monkeys]
Post by: vixtro on June 08, 2004, 01:09:56 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 08, 2004, 02:37:29 AM
Post by: Hybrid Hunter on June 08, 2004, 06:11:00 AM
Even though Nintendo tortures us, in the end, we like the torture, because it pays off!
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 08, 2004, 06:15:41 AM
Post by: Hybrid Hunter on June 08, 2004, 06:28:58 AM
Time that could be spent playing WW!!!
Post by: Berny on June 08, 2004, 07:21:02 AM
) I can fantasize about horseriding once again. And maybe if the game is choc full of unlockables.....KANGAROO RIDING. Woot.
Post by: MysticGohan24 on June 08, 2004, 08:19:17 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill
I'm currently resisting beating his teeth in...
Ah, Bill give in to those urges
I would done the samething.I hate trolls, I have teh WW, and damnit I loved everybit of it.
I'm excited about this game, and there was nothing wrong with WW, cept' maybe with the sailing
too much of a chore when getting the Tri-forks
( Tri-force )But it reminded me of lttp, and to this day I still have the SNES version. I just need new controllers
as the d-pad kinda sticks, and the buttons aren't as responsive as they once were. But it's been yrs.
atleast the games all work great and the system itself.
Post by: vixtro on June 08, 2004, 12:10:24 PM
but i just had to get my point across the game of why i dont like it very much now
Post by: Griffin on June 08, 2004, 01:11:36 PM
It lets us all know when it's okay to breathe. (I don't have the link to that gucomics joke, sorry...any help here would be hot.)
Post by: Shift Key on June 08, 2004, 07:16:02 PM
Post by: MysticGohan24 on June 08, 2004, 07:41:51 PM
Post by: MysticGohan24 on June 08, 2004, 07:43:45 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 08, 2004, 07:53:29 PM
Post by: Bloodworth on June 08, 2004, 08:41:27 PM
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Hey bill what's up with your avatar? It's huge!!! lol
Yeah, well yours is broken. :-P
Post by: MysticGohan24 on June 08, 2004, 09:11:15 PM
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Hey bill what's up with your avatar? It's huge!!! lol
Yeah, well yours is broken. :-P
Your actually wrong Bloodworth
mines showing fine to me and others. Maybe it's your firewall or internet/intranet settings or something Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 08, 2004, 09:16:29 PM
*o*
Seriously, try out photobucket.com
Post by: MysticGohan24 on June 08, 2004, 09:17:44 PM
Post by: MysticGohan24 on June 08, 2004, 09:33:36 PM
thanks PGC, without you I would never gotten my avatar ( course I had to modify it )
it's that PGC is better than that IGN-orant slut of a site
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 08, 2004, 10:06:52 PM
I must now dub thee... HORSE in WOODS.
*o*
Post by: MysticGohan24 on June 08, 2004, 10:23:46 PM
The Legend of Zelda ( Tentative Titile )
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 08, 2004, 10:48:59 PM
~~~~~
Imagine the future... what's the best Zelda game ever? A Link to the Past? No....
Ocarina of Time? No.....
Tentative Title? YESSS@!!!!!!!!!!@#$!
Zelda:TT pwns!
Post by: MysticGohan24 on June 08, 2004, 11:03:54 PM
Now what's that about the Handrawn artwork??? I'd like to see it
Post by: Griffin on June 08, 2004, 11:25:58 PM
And yeah, that's the comic I was talking about...I tend to get PennyArcade and GUComics mixed up from time to time.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 09, 2004, 12:17:21 AM
*o*
Post by: KDR_11k on June 09, 2004, 12:31:19 AM
vixtro: Isn't it a bit ironic, you got bored because Zelda is repetitive yet you're a big fan of Halo?
Post by: MysticGohan24 on June 09, 2004, 02:37:43 PM
Halo for PC, The demo I played was boring and abit laggy regardless of connection speed. And I have adsl 1.5Mbps, so I shouldn't have to deal with that. As any other game with a decent server runs smoothly.
Anyway, Professional666: about your artwork, is it the same as the on in PGC's art gallery?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 09, 2004, 02:59:34 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 09, 2004, 03:16:57 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 09, 2004, 03:36:11 PM
Post by: Griffin on June 09, 2004, 07:02:27 PM
Post by: MysticGohan24 on June 09, 2004, 10:04:44 PM
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That's the 1802x3064 pic of Link, right? ^_^
wait....wait... wait a minute here!!! are you telling me that's possible? My monitor's rez only goes as far as 1600x12- -
how can that be that big?
Post by: MysticGohan24 on June 09, 2004, 10:08:29 PM
I thought it was the resolution, confused there for a sec.
Post by: nicalibur on July 10, 2004, 08:34:02 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 10, 2004, 12:29:48 PM
E3 Zelda Direct-Feed trailer
DA DA DA DAAAAAA
