Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: shiznoid on March 20, 2004, 01:52:13 PM
Title: GC rpgs?
Post by: shiznoid on March 20, 2004, 01:52:13 PM
Hey everyone, im new here and i got my GC a few months ago. ive gotten a few games but nothing thats really pulled me in for a while. im looking for a game thatll take a while, maybe an rpg. i dont really know of any good rpgs out, but i want something like diablo 2, with thre level gaining and the equipment. anyone know of any games like this? thanks
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Post by: Bill Aurion on March 20, 2004, 01:57:07 PM
Sounds like what you want is an Action/RPG...In that case, I recommend Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, though it's obviously better with friends...
Also be sure to pick up Tales of Symphonia in July!
(Oh, and welcome...But please read the rules to fully enjoy your stay...Particularly, don't post new threads when there is one already existing..."What Game Should I Get?" thread
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Post by: Draygaia on March 20, 2004, 02:00:47 PM
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance and what the guy above me said and PC RPGs that play like Diablo 2 but better on the PC.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on March 20, 2004, 02:04:19 PM
Is my name really that hard to remember?
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Post by: shiznoid on March 20, 2004, 02:13:14 PM
Is there any reason why these games get bad ratings? baldurs gate got a 78, chronicles got an 80. skies of arcadia got an 87.
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Post by: Aretak on March 20, 2004, 02:20:18 PM
Baldurs Gate was an awful port of the PS2 version, which is why many sites marked it down. It has slowdown which wasn't in the original, and it's really annoying at times. Crystal Chronicles is a game that can only be enjoyed in multiplayer with at least one other person playing. If you're on your own, it's absoloutely pointless and dull. Skies Of Arcadia on the other hand has a turn-based battle system ala Final Fantasy, and is one of the finest RPG's to hit any console in recent years -- it's well worth at least 87% in my book.
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Post by: Salem on March 20, 2004, 02:36:10 PM
If ya like RpG's (just like me), I suggest ya to buy Skies of Arcadia Legends, it's really good; Phantasy Star Episode I & 2; Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, and finally, -Harvest Moon a Wonderful Life-, it's not even close to Diablo 2, is a totally different game, but if ya like RpG games and don't have problems with a touch of simulation, you're gonna love this one, a great one.
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Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on March 20, 2004, 02:40:53 PM
Yep, get Skies of Arcadia Legends. If you don't, you are missing out on a great RPG, and one of the best games I had the pleasure of playing!
AiAI s Sega!
And Tales of Symphonia as well when it comes out. It got great, great review scores in Japan!
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Post by: rpglover on March 20, 2004, 02:58:03 PM
tales all the way
and dont forget about baten kaidos- its gonna be great
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Post by: KDR_11k on March 20, 2004, 06:05:28 PM
I've seen a poll of most-wanted games on GC, for third-party BK and ToS(in that order) took the lead. Or maybe there was RE4 above them, not sure.
As for games that are out, try Lost Kingdoms II (better rent before buying, some people don't like it) in addition to the ones mentioned above. Phantasy Star Online is the closest you'll get to Diablo. Don't get scared by the name, it's fully playable offline (like Diablo). It's a hack&slay with leveling, randomized items (and Uniques!) and at least 10x as many quests as Diablo 2 (and none of them mandatory). It's not as advanced as D2 in some areas, but battles involve more tactics than Blizzard's game.
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Post by: Chongman on March 20, 2004, 07:38:07 PM
Quote Crystal Chronicles is a game that can only be enjoyed in multiplayer with at least one other person playing. If you're on your own, it's absoloutely pointless and dull.
oh, that is so not true...at least not for every person. While it is true that multiplayer was much more enjoyable, single player was a blast also. Truly, it was fun and challenging that way. It also got rid of the chalice complaint because the moogle NEVER comes up short. But yeah, it is more fun with 2+ players, but that doesn't necessarily mean 1 player is crap.
PSO I&II was good...but it got so mundane. I mean, how many times have I been in this damn jungle? It was fun though, especially when with a friend. The battles just got a bit dull after awhile..but it was fun.
Oh, and yes, Skies is a plus. Though from what you're saying u might also enjoy RE 1 & 0
PS. theres another topic for this ;-)
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Post by: shiznoid on March 20, 2004, 09:04:15 PM
does PSO feature a co-op or 2 player non-online mode? it has a subscription fee for online play, right?
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Post by: Aretak on March 21, 2004, 02:06:24 AM
PSO supports up to four players offline via split-screen, in both co-op and battle modes. There is a monthly subscription fee of $8.95 to play online, which covers Episode I+II, as well as the new Episode III card battling game.
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Post by: KDR_11k on March 21, 2004, 02:24:52 AM
However, the difficulty is raised in multiplayer, so you shouldn't jump in directly with your level one characters unless you fancy dying about three times per room. Gets easier if everybody is at least about level 4 or 5 (maybe half an hour or so in SP) and doesn't lose their money as often. (A single "Dark Rifle" can make the game a whole lot more enjoyable)
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Post by: shiznoid on March 21, 2004, 07:17:24 AM
either way, i dont think i am going to be paying a monthly fee, i got my GC for a good single/vs experince and meh PC is reserved for online (unless its a free online game)
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Post by: theRPGFreak on March 21, 2004, 07:31:13 AM
Id love to see a traditional Final Fantasy game on the GC, or even a RPG version of Zelda! (I can always dream...)
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Post by: BlkPaladin on March 21, 2004, 07:47:02 AM
You don't have to pay the monthly fee if you choose not to play it on line.
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Post by: Chongman on March 21, 2004, 10:45:21 AM
an rpg zelda?? ew...no...ack! thats just bizarre, it just doesn't seem right. It just wouldn't be zelda...u know?
thats just my take on it
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Post by: Bill Aurion on March 21, 2004, 11:43:45 AM
Hey, it works with Mario...
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Post by: theRPGFreak on March 21, 2004, 11:51:34 AM
Why not a Zelda RPG? Knowone thought that Mario could work as an RPG before Super Mario RPG came out (which my friends think is the best Mario game of all time!)
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Post by: Koopa Troopa on March 21, 2004, 12:01:56 PM
Quote Hey, it works with Mario...
Yeah if they used a battle system like M&L:SS (read: takes actual skill to play), and upped the anti somehow it could work. Zelda could even be a playable character.
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Post by: Darc Requiem on March 21, 2004, 12:47:24 PM
If you like Diablo, then PSO is your best bet. Its plays alot like the Diablo and its a prettier game. Plus you don't have to go on-line to Enjoy the mulitplayer.
Darc Requiem
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Post by: KDR_11k on March 21, 2004, 06:52:36 PM
Hm, a Zelda RPG might work with the tales battle system (maybe a bit modified, even, they'd sure as hell set Miyamoto on the task)...
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Post by: FOX McLOUD on March 22, 2004, 05:50:32 AM
I'm confused, is Bill really a transsexual? Is he talking about himself or someone else?
Either way, that is very disturbing.
One thing is for certain, don't tell us such things, we don't want to know.
Lets leave this site for discussion about games.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on March 22, 2004, 06:40:10 AM
Does it really make that much of a difference whether I am or not? And you're the one who brought it up, not I...
Back on topic, I still think Zelda would work best as an Action/RPG along the lines of the perfect game, Terranigma, which was basically a LttP-ish adventure with experience points...Think Adventures of Link without the repetition and annoying level-up system... ^_^
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Post by: theRPGFreak on March 22, 2004, 08:27:35 AM
Same here Bill
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Post by: Aretak on March 22, 2004, 08:34:03 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Bill Does it really make that much of a difference whether I am or not?
If you look anything like Bridget, then yes... I'll know to bug you for pictures then.
Er, yes, anyway... GameCube RPGs... very interesting.
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Post by: Draygaia on March 22, 2004, 01:56:47 PM
Zelda makes much more sense than Mario to go RPG style. Just look at it. A lot of the things in the game are what you would find in an RPG.
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Post by: Berny on March 23, 2004, 05:25:46 PM
But Mario RPGs have been established already. They have a huge fan following. I'm sure Zelda could easily do the same, but quite frankly, I don't want that. I like Zelda the way it is. Not that I don't want innovation in Zelda games; I just don't want a full out RPG.
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Post by: slacker on March 23, 2004, 08:19:33 PM
A zelda RPG would be great, so long as Link isn't in it. The Zelda RPG could carry the Zelda label, but it would introduce characters from the main story that played a role in the series. We could have new hero who teams up with Zelda and the sages to battle the forces of evil during the times when Link doesn't appear to save the Hyrule or whatever land he was suppose to save. It would be a story that takes place in-between the main Zelda stories. I can already picture it...
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Post by: Shadow Fox on March 23, 2004, 11:34:23 PM
To make it easy for the thread starter:
Skies of Arcadia Legends Evolution: Worlds Lost Kingdoms (AKA Rune) Lost Kingdoms II Baulder's Gate: Dark Alliance (can be found in most offbeat stores for a mere $8) Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life Animal CRACK-er, Crossing Future Tactics: The Uprising Medabots Infinity Gladius MegaMan X: Command Mission Summoner: A Goddess Reborn (pretty damn good PS2 port, plus extras) XMen Legends (not sure if this has been cancelled or not) Yu Gi Oh!! ( I won't bother with the subtitle, simply because I hate this franchise) Tales of Symphonia (due out in a few months) Baten Katos (also due out in a few months) Phantasy Star Online: Episodes I and II Phantasy Star Online: Episode III C.A.R.D. Revolution Pokemon Colesseum (well, it's sort of an RPG since it has more elements from the main GBA series)
Bascially pick through this selection here, read up on them, and pick up/rent whatever seems more attractive to you. And because you said you like hack-n-slash action such as Diablo, Hunter: The Reckoning isn't half-bad, though not quite an RPG.
Also, keep an eye out for any new GCN offerings from Square/Enix, as I'm SURE another FF and/or DragonQuest will make their way in due time.
-Official Ninja of PGC
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Post by: Bill Aurion on March 24, 2004, 12:39:26 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Shadow Fox Pokemon Colesseum (well, it's sort of an RPG since it has more elements from the main GBA series)
What do you mean, "sort of"? It is an 100% RPG...
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Post by: theRPGFreak on March 24, 2004, 06:55:17 AM
Making a Zelda game without Link? Other games tried that type of approach (Metal Gear Solid 2, Crono Cross) and were bashed by the fans. Youy gotta keep Link
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Post by: Ymeegod on March 24, 2004, 07:58:56 AM
Actually Pokemon Colesseum is basically porting your pokemon from the GBA versions to duke it out in a 3d environment.
There is a single player mode (story mode) which is kinda like the RPG aspect from the GBA games where you go around a virtual world and collect and battle pokemon but it's pretty thin (plotwise) and short (10 hours).
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Post by: Shadow Fox on March 24, 2004, 08:17:11 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Bill
Quote Originally posted by: Shadow Fox Pokemon Colesseum (well, it's sort of an RPG since it has more elements from the main GBA series)
What do you mean, "sort of"? It is an 100% RPG...
I was saying that, between GBA and console versions, the console version of Pokemon have so-far been primarily just a large area to stage your Pokemon, instead of a full-blown adventure like the GameBoy classics.
Colesseum is much more like GBA Pokemon than Stadium 1 or 2, but lacks a little less than the handheld counterpart in terms of depth, IMO.
Sorry for any confusion on this.
-Official Ninja of PGC
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Post by: Ian Sane on March 24, 2004, 08:40:27 AM
"But Mario RPGs have been established already. They have a huge fan following. I'm sure Zelda could easily do the same, but quite frankly, I don't want that. I like Zelda the way it is. Not that I don't want innovation in Zelda games; I just don't want a full out RPG."
What's the big deal? It's not like the adventure Zelda games wouldn't still exist. They still make Mario platformers don't they? The Legend of Zelda RPG would be a spin-off series.
I have wanted a Zelda RPG since I saw how well it worked for Mario. If I was to design it it would feature the following:
- not cel-shaded graphics. It would look more like Skies of Arcadia. - like in the Mario RPGs battles are not random. The enemies are all visible. - Link is naturally the main character. Other members of the party include Zelda (who can transfrom from Zelda to Sheik) and some other guys like a Goron and a Zora. - The game is full 3D with no fixed camera angles. Areas are wide 3D open areas each around the size of the world in Ocarina of Time. An overworld map seperates these areas thus making the complete world quite large. - Level up system is similar to Super Mario RPG so the highest level isn't some stupid low amount like five. - Battles are turn based and very similar to Mario RPG. Realtime interaction like timed hits are present but unlike M&L are not required to play the game. MP is for each character rather than shared like in Mario RPG. Each character has character specific abilities beyond regular attacks and spells. Link for example can use his bow or boomerang for different effects. Some enemies may require you to use certain abilities and items. - Aside from the battles the rest of the game is all in real time. Link can interact with objects like he can in the other Zelda games and all the puzzles are in real time. - Like in Paper Mario Link can attack an ememy before the battle and thus get a pre-emptive strike. Enemies can however do the same to Link. - Like in most Zelda games the game will require you to travel between parallel worlds. Either different dimensions or different time periods. Whatever fits the story better. - Link never talks like how Mario never talks in Super Mario RPG.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on March 24, 2004, 09:08:17 AM
That pretty much sums up my vision of a perfect Zelda (turn-based) RPG...Having either a Zelda RPG or Action/RPG would be pure gaming bliss...
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Post by: theRPGFreak on March 24, 2004, 11:42:27 AM
Are you listening Nintendo? Make this Zelda game happen.
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Post by: Draygaia on March 24, 2004, 01:28:13 PM
Damn we have a hard time staying on-topic. Its time we give this board another thread! I'm doing just that.
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Post by: Smashman on March 24, 2004, 02:48:30 PM
GC is not the system for you if you like RPGs. Try SNES or PSone...
But, anyqays, Pokemon Colusseum, Tales of Symphonia, and Baten Kaitos are a few to get if you own a GC and an RPG fan...