Post by: Gamebasher on March 13, 2004, 03:23:48 AM
Here is the link: http://nintendoinsider.com/site/EpZAEEuAAFTtxBSrBb.php
(how do you higlight a LINK to a website, so people can just click on it?)
Go and see for yourselves, I think it pretty much gives us all the reassurance we need that it will be like a portable N64!!
I want Mario 64 on it, and the REAL Ura-zelda too!!!!!!!!
Gamebasher.
Post by: Draygaia on March 13, 2004, 04:14:28 AM
Post by: Smadte on March 13, 2004, 11:54:06 AM
God, I hope not.
Post by: kennyb27 on March 13, 2004, 01:01:58 PM
And just because it has similar power of the 64, I seriously doubt Nintendo and other developers will start an all out effort to port 64 games to it (what with licenses and publishers to worry about).
Post by: Draygaia on March 13, 2004, 03:09:18 PM
Post by: Termin8Anakin on March 14, 2004, 02:24:47 AM
Just cause it's 'as' powerful as an N64 doesn't mean they should port over N64 games.
It was a hard time looking at the blurry, fog-ridden levels in some games on the BIG screen, it wouldn't be hard to go blind here.
Please, just excellent, innovative games. I know that it might look the same, but at least they weren't already on the N64.
Post by: blablamax on March 14, 2004, 02:33:03 AM
Why E3 is soo far away, WWWWHHHYYYY
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on March 14, 2004, 03:32:57 AM
Post by: KnowsNothing on March 14, 2004, 04:04:06 PM
The bad news is more personal. If the DS is like the N64 I will feel like it IS the GBA successor and I am not ready for that. But my fears are most likely groundless. If it IS as powerful as the N64, I doubt it wil be in the same way. What I mean is, I don't think it will be something that developers can port over N64 games to. That's why it isn't a direct competitor, but a "third pillar" as they call it. The DS wil lbe somehting completely unique that will serve a purpose that none of us have already guessed.
Or not. Dunno.
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 14, 2004, 06:23:58 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 14, 2004, 06:28:41 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on March 14, 2004, 07:08:02 PM
Post by: Gamebasher on March 15, 2004, 02:49:06 AM
Post by: DrZoidberg on March 15, 2004, 03:26:21 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on March 15, 2004, 05:13:18 AM
(EDIT: F###ing preview told me it will not make this a link...)
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 15, 2004, 06:30:21 AM
Replace the greater than/less than symbols --> < > with brackets --> [ ]
So you get something like this OMG the link leads to this very page!
Post by: Ian Sane on March 15, 2004, 06:52:49 AM
Agreed. There aren't really any 16-bit 2D games that look bad. With a little visual cleanup virtually any Genesis/SNES game could have been released now as an original GBA title and few would find it out of place. N64 games are the 3D equivalent of NES games in that their visuals haven't held up at all. There's a reason that there aren't very many NES ports on the GBA.
Plus what's the point of making a nifty dual screen system if it's just going to be used for N64 ports? One thing I think we can be sure of is that even if third parties get port happy Nintendo probably won't and will make new content to promote the dual screen design.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on March 15, 2004, 10:20:36 AM
"Hey guys we're launching Super Mario 64 DX with the classic Mario Bros. stuck in, and one new sound effect!" =/
I'd much rather a dedicated 2D machine.
Post by: Darc Requiem on March 15, 2004, 03:51:03 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"I don't mind aged ports on the GBA because even bad graphics in a sprite based game still look clean. A bad looking polygonal game looks really bad."
Agreed. There aren't really any 16-bit 2D games that look bad. With a little visual cleanup virtually any Genesis/SNES game could have been released now as an original GBA title and few would find it out of place. N64 games are the 3D equivalent of NES games in that their visuals haven't held up at all. There's a reason that there aren't very many NES ports on the GBA.
Plus what's the point of making a nifty dual screen system if it's just going to be used for N64 ports? One thing I think we can be sure of is that even if third parties get port happy Nintendo probably won't and will make new content to promote the dual screen design.
Once again, Ian hits the nail on the head. I'm suprised that a gaming mag hasn't gotten wise to your insights. Although I'm sure the DS will have its trashy ports with "tacked on" dual screen features. I'm also sure, like the GBA that the DS will have stellar games that are both innovative and push the hardware beyond its limits. I'm sure the DS's 3D games will look quite better than the games of N64. The DS has more storage space, so textures shouldn't have that blur....and after seeing games like Need For Speed Undergound for GBA. I'm sure that the DS will be able to impress.
Darc Requiem
Post by: Uglydot on March 16, 2004, 12:12:05 AM
Post by: blablamax on March 16, 2004, 04:52:49 AM
Post by: Fluke Worm on March 16, 2004, 06:52:16 PM
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I'm sure the DS will have its trashy ports with "tacked on" dual screen features
UOOOO, picture it, a ROB collectors game card, on one screen you have the game screen the other has a simulated ROB on it. Best idea ever
. Truth be told I'd probably buy it though
.BTW is this ("game card") what we will be calling the medium that the games are on? It's not a disk, it's not a cartridge, it's kinda like a memory card so it's a game card........right???
Post by: odifiend on March 16, 2004, 07:07:40 PM
I've read a couple of articles on the DS as I'm sure everyone has, and it sounds to me like there won't be that many buttons on it (i keep hearing a,b and stylus, and i'm desperately looking for a hint of x and y) which would limit N64 ports. There were 9 buttons on the 64 controller so even if we get x and y, that's 6 buttons and a stylus. GCN gets screwed in ports for having 1 less button, so ported 64 games to DS would be clumsy and lacking. Therefore straight ports are not worth it. Don't try to whichever developers are reading.
Enhanced ports are different stories. I am dreaming of a 8 person, wireless smash bros.
Post by: KDR_11k on March 17, 2004, 03:49:33 AM
Post by: Fluke Worm on March 17, 2004, 12:40:38 PM
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They said they're considering X and Y buttons
Why does it have to be A&B or A;B;X&Y, is there some reason they can't do say A;B&X. I say quit considering four buttons and just put three on it, that way everyone's happy, the DS would have more buttons than the GB and less than the GC. Of course "everyone" wouldn't include persons who wanted 4buttons but too bad
Post by: Ian Sane on March 17, 2004, 12:52:14 PM
I fail to see any advantage to having one less button. And as a four button supporter I could consider switching to three buttons as a big "f*ck you" from Nintendo. Kind of like the d-pad on the Cube controller.
Post by: Draygaia on March 17, 2004, 01:36:30 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 17, 2004, 02:09:07 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 17, 2004, 02:40:29 PM
Post by: odifiend on March 17, 2004, 11:24:28 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 18, 2004, 01:14:42 AM
Porting N64 games to the DS would make absolutely no sense, wasting the use of the second screen...Stop worrying so much...
Post by: Gamebasher on March 18, 2004, 05:44:53 AM
This website is the official website of the company which is publishing the magazine, where you can buy that and many other mags online:
www.gamesradar.com
(sorry, haven´t understood how to link webadresses yet, it somehow doesn´t work at all, but will ask the pros soon).
Just be warned, that the posted "current issue" (found under "Magazines" in the left side menu) of NGC is last months issue for some strange reason so it isn´t the one I just bought. Guess they didn´t upgrade the webpage.
Gamebasher.
Post by: Gamebasher on March 18, 2004, 05:50:11 AM
Gamebasher.
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 18, 2004, 06:42:28 AM
Here's the link to the mock-up, if anyone cares...
Post by: Ian Sane on March 18, 2004, 08:35:38 AM
Post by: Draygaia on March 18, 2004, 11:38:32 AM
Post by: Fluke Worm on March 19, 2004, 09:25:45 AM
Post by: Gamebasher on March 19, 2004, 02:42:28 PM
Gamebasher.
Post by: Fluke Worm on March 20, 2004, 05:49:18 PM
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um, isn't the DS's dual screens supposed to be able to be positioned to make one bigger screen.?
sorry `bout that, I didn't mean to only reiterate what was already said
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Meh, I don't think so...The screens are supposed to be basically touching, or at least, that's what Ninty's PR has said...
I must have read through the posts too fast, I blame it on the fact that I'm still viewing old posts as "(NEW!)" hence the skimming, see not my fault
anyway, what about the shoulder buttons? Will they be pressure sensitive? Obviously it would be kinda stupid if there was only 2 buttons but I could see it working with 3
(sorry in advance if analog shoulder buttons have already been mentioned but you can't search message's bodies, not my fault again [roll eyes here])BTW f#ck you Ian Sane
Post by: KDR_11k on March 20, 2004, 06:42:52 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on March 22, 2004, 06:24:40 AM
Hey telling me off is one thing but bolding my name? Dude that's just cold.
Post by: Fluke Worm on March 22, 2004, 10:41:37 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"BTW f#ck you Ian Sane"
Hey telling me off is one thing but bolding my name? Dude that's just cold.
*chuckles to self* no no no, I try to bold everyone's names in my posts for two reasons. First off names are bolded anyway (under avatar & in quotes), secondly it's easier for people to see if I'm making reference to them so they can respond, or if I'm cursing them out so they can defend themselves
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