Post by: WhereMyArm on January 30, 2004, 09:15:21 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on January 30, 2004, 10:03:01 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on January 31, 2004, 06:31:46 AM
But I know what you mean. It could be done without a joystick (though a sort of retractable one would be interesting).
Post by: Ocarina Blue on January 31, 2004, 05:45:44 PM
Anolouge movement could be handled through something similiar to a control stick. If there was a circular depression with a raised piece of plastic in the middle of it, then the raised piece could just be moved around the indented area. It would be a cross between a mouse and an anolouge stick, but most importantly; it would be flat.
Post by: KDR_11k on January 31, 2004, 08:43:06 PM
Post by: vudu on February 02, 2004, 09:43:08 AM
do you use your thumb to control these keys or do you use your ring, middle and pointer fingers? how about when you play a console game? do you use your fingers or thumbs (not counting shoulder buttons)?
i think it would be awkward to play a 3d game using a d-pad, and i think it would be near impossible to make the ds' (or any console system's) controls easy to play using anything but your thumb for the primary action keys.
Post by: KDR_11k on February 02, 2004, 09:05:31 PM
BTW, does ANYBODY know a pad for the PC with a stick as primary control? Those damn d-pads are destroying my thumb!
Post by: Ocarina Blue on February 03, 2004, 06:57:05 PM
I'm hardly a PC gamer, but in my experience 3rd person games have had generally awkward controls. I've played Rayman 2 on the 64 (gotta love that game), but things like KotOR and and a few non-commercial games of the genre I've played on the PC have always been a little wierd to control.
Post by: KDR_11k on February 04, 2004, 03:24:39 AM
Post by: Draygaia on February 06, 2004, 12:46:59 PM
I just want a flatten joystick, old-style d-pad, GCN top/trigger button feel but only pressed once (no multiple button use), and SNes style buttons with the START and SELECT butons in positions lik ethe X and Y button on the GCN. Also instead of handles like everybody used I would take the GBA backside and push in the middle and push out the outsides. You know like the Mad Catz SNes/Nes classic style control for the PS2.
Post by: Majexto on February 06, 2004, 01:54:01 PM
Post by: ib2kool4u912 on February 06, 2004, 03:13:07 PM
to asking alot of questions!
Post by: Draygaia on February 07, 2004, 09:08:17 AM
Post by: Ocarina Blue on February 07, 2004, 07:49:37 PM
Post by: Draygaia on February 12, 2004, 09:54:59 AM
Ex: Screen A: a character searching for a garden seed in the basement. Screen B: You are in the past putting the garden see in the place you put your finger on before your character searches that same area. You are helping each other in past and future.
Post by: KDR_11k on February 13, 2004, 05:10:48 AM
Post by: Draygaia on February 13, 2004, 12:52:17 PM
http://www.madcatz.com/MadCatz/product_details.jsp?product_id=8202
Only I would make the thumb buttons SNES style, D-Pad to be Nintendo style, have both joysticks switch positions with thumb buttons and d-pad, START and SELECT to be on far right top (like GCN X and Y). If Nintendo wants extra top buttons I want them to be used by middle fingers.
You know the Z-Button on the GCN IMO would be awesome if it was also a scroll like a mouse button. That would probably be the best idea for switching of any type of item. And two of them! They can be positioned by the L&R button next to the cord, over, or underneath.
Post by: KDR_11k on February 13, 2004, 08:55:03 PM
Post by: ThePerm on February 28, 2004, 12:43:10 PM
Post by: ib2kool4u912 on February 29, 2004, 03:09:35 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on February 29, 2004, 08:26:17 PM
Post by: nemo_83 on March 03, 2004, 06:23:30 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on March 04, 2004, 02:54:02 AM
1. Touchscreens are too inaccurate and support only one clicked position. Pressing a+b? Forget it.
2. You'd leave fingerprints on the screen unless you use a stick/pen of some sort, but that isn't good for playing.
Post by: Ghost_of_a_Flea on March 04, 2004, 11:28:05 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on March 04, 2004, 11:50:32 AM
Touch screen controls for the DS is nothing but a "wouldn't it be cool if" idea created by a few people and it has always been inconsistant with anything Nintendo has told us. It's as realistic of an idea as the stupid VR stuff people bring up.
Imagine the DS controls will be quite generic. The Dual-Screen is the innovation here, not the controls. Expect a face button layout similar to the either the SNES or Cube controllers and L+R buttons. Start and select buttons will be wherever they fit and as usual won't be designed for action related functions.
The control pad is the only variable but I imagine to save space there will be only one control pad. It may be analog or digital but whatever it is I expect it to be one or the other. An analog stick like the Cube just wouldn't be practical so it will either be some sort of flat analog stick or a d-pad.
Of course a d-pad will be all we'll need if the DS is 2D. How do we know the system will be 3D?
Post by: Draygaia on March 04, 2004, 01:09:17 PM
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Originally posted by: nemo_83
If it does turn out to be the next GB then I have a feeling it may be two touch screens that display custom button configurations for each game as programed by the developers.
It can't. There is already a successor to the GBA. It was said in the recent interview between Perrin Kaplan and IGN.
I also understand that the screens are whats mainly focused on here but that doesn't mean we can't expect some totally new control design that we have seen on the Nintendo consoles.
Post by: Don'tHate742 on March 04, 2004, 04:10:53 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on March 04, 2004, 07:01:33 PM
If there was an analog stick the top screen could have a cover that extends far enough to protect the stick when the device is in closed position.
Post by: capncrunk on March 04, 2004, 09:16:50 PM
It'd save a lot on space, and it'd still have that analog feel without using a joystick that prevents you from folding the unit up.
Post by: WhereMyArm on March 05, 2004, 06:56:47 PM
Post by: Syl on March 07, 2004, 06:34:01 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Where do people get this touch screen stuff from? Nintendo has NEVER suggested anything even remotely similar to this idea and what they have told us clashes with a possible touch screen design. If touch screen was used Nintendo would probably have told us.
Touch screen controls for the DS is nothing but a "wouldn't it be cool if" idea created by a few people and it has always been inconsistant with anything Nintendo has told us. It's as realistic of an idea as the stupid VR stuff people bring up.
Imagine the DS controls will be quite generic. The Dual-Screen is the innovation here, not the controls. Expect a face button layout similar to the either the SNES or Cube controllers and L+R buttons. Start and select buttons will be wherever they fit and as usual won't be designed for action related functions.
The control pad is the only variable but I imagine to save space there will be only one control pad. It may be analog or digital but whatever it is I expect it to be one or the other. An analog stick like the Cube just wouldn't be practical so it will either be some sort of flat analog stick or a d-pad.
Of course a d-pad will be all we'll need if the DS is 2D. How do we know the system will be 3D?
The fact that nintendo is working with SHARP on the DS, and sharp is known for 2 things.
1. holygrams
2. Touchpads.
Not to mention IGN "confirmed" that one of the DS' screens was a touchpad. whatever the hell thats worth.
The touchpad idea makes the most sense to me anyway.
2 screens, one being the touchpad, the other one not. people complaining about not having enough buttons? now they'll never ever have that issue again.
Post by: Don'tHate742 on March 07, 2004, 07:43:06 AM
how do you press two buttons at the same time? how do you physically feel which button to hit? Or will you have to look down all the time? How do you press a certain button really fast with out damaging the screen?
touch pad is a retarded idea.
Post by: KDR_11k on March 07, 2004, 08:07:05 PM
Post by: Draygaia on March 08, 2004, 12:16:49 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian SaneNot to mention IGN "confirmed" that one of the DS' screens was a touchpad. whatever the hell thats worth.
I'm sorry but that was just a rumor.
I don't have a problem with a touchpad or a pen that can write on screens. If they do have that I'm guessing its just an extra and probably won't be used for a majority of the time in games. Lets take the Eye Toy. When that came out its not like they were putting most of their focus on body movements for controlling most of the future games. It was just a fun extra.
Post by: ThePerm on March 10, 2004, 12:09:37 PM
http://www.tetrametrics.com/theperm/Images/dsa.jpg
Post by: Draygaia on March 10, 2004, 12:49:11 PM
Post by: WesDawg on March 11, 2004, 06:40:47 AM
In any case, it makes thing more exciting. It's got a lot more people excited about the DS it seems too.
Post by: KDR_11k on March 12, 2004, 05:06:29 AM
I don't think a touchscreen can be used for control elements, only for things like the mouse in RTS games (or team commands in sports games...)
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on April 04, 2004, 04:38:13 PM
the screen on the body of the GBa is your touchpad screen. It's really easy to reach... but what the hell could you use it for? I'm stumped...
which is why i dont think that it wil have a touchscreen
Post by: KDR_11k on April 04, 2004, 08:17:40 PM
Post by: Solid Snake on April 15, 2004, 08:22:57 AM
By the way, maybe we should have a stick like Zodiac's. www.tapwave.com
Post by: jasonditz on April 16, 2004, 11:07:03 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on April 16, 2004, 09:31:49 PM
