Post by: WindyMan on January 29, 2004, 07:33:47 PM
Link: http://www.capcom.co.jp/killer7/main/e_news.html
When Capcom basically stunned the gaming media and announced Viewtiful Joe, Dead Phoenix, PN03, Killer7 and Resident Evil 4 exclusively for the GameCube a while back, questions began to rise about just how exclusive these titles would be. Well, after the (supposed) cancellation of Dead Phoenix, Vanessa Z. Schneider's not-so-hot game, and the successful but low-flying Viewtiful Joe, a lot more questions about Capcom's decision arose.
The next game in the Production Studio 4 line, Killer7, won't be open to the same questions, as Capcom has posted a notice on their Japanese site simply stating that, while the GameCube version of the game is still going on as planned, the game will also be released for the PlayStation 2.
However, no release timeframe for the PS2 version was mentioned, meaning the GC version of Killer7 still might be exclusive to Nintendo for a little while. Either way, it's one less game Nintendo has in its lineup that gamers would require a GameCube to play.
Despite the exclusivity loss of Killer7, Capcom continues to insist that Resident Evil 4 is and will stay exclusive to the GameCube, which should be released before the end of the year is up.
Thanks to Berto2K for the heads-up!
Post by: SearanoX on January 29, 2004, 08:08:05 PM
However, this hopefully doesn't apply to Resident Evil 4. It's the game that people are really interested in right now, it seems, and considering that Nintendo has a deal going with Capcom to keep the Resident Evil titles exclusive (most likely by forking over a large sum of cash) and because it already has a large fanbase from the previous two Resident Evil games on the 'Cube, it makes much more sense to keep it exclusive for now. Another problem would be the graphics - we all know how amazing this thing looks, and the PS2 simply could not handle such a thing without being toned down - and that would hurt the game, seeing as how one of the major appealing factors in the first place is the graphics of the game.
I'm glad that they're keeping it on Nintendo, though, even if it's not exclusive. After all, we're assuming that it was originally planned for it, so it makes sense to not scrap all of the work done in favour of the PS2 version; big waste of money there. I don't think that it was really going to be a system-selling title in the first place - more of a game to hold off the Resident Evil fans while they await eagerly for the new installation in the series.
Post by: ruby_onix on January 29, 2004, 08:37:55 PM
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When Capcom basically stunned the gaming media and announced Viewtiful Joe, Dead Phoenix, PN03, Killer7 and Resident Evil 4 exclusively for the GameCube a while back, questions began to rise about just how exclusive these titles would be.
And those questions were answered. Shinji Mikami said that RE4 was exclusive, but none of the others were. Because Capcom broke the "spirit" of the RE contract he signed, and found a loophole allowing them to make RE games exclusively for Sony, despite Mikami's opposition, so Mikami apparently doesn't trust Capcom to honor anything he signs anymore.
However, Mikami said that these games were not going to appear on the PS2, ever, if he had anything at all to say about it. I believe he said they would have to cut his head off first.
I'm waiting to see what Mikami's reaction to this announcement is.
When we last heard from him, I believe he was saying publicly that he wanted to be put to work on a game licence that was 100% controlled by Nintendo, not Capcom, like Sega and Namco are doing with F-Zero and Starfox. This helped fuel some of those rumors that Dead Phoenix was being converted into a Kid Icarus series rebirth title.
I'm expecting that his next step is to quit Capcom in protest. And quite likely, go to work for Nintendo.
Sony can have a cheap port of Killer 7. Seriously. Nobody minds. We want Shinji Mikami now though. That's a fair trade, right?
Post by: Armed on January 29, 2004, 08:46:50 PM
Post by: Pod on January 29, 2004, 10:12:37 PM
He's probably going to join HAL in place of Kirby creator Masahiro Sakurai, and give us the dark, mature Kirby's Killfest we've been waiting for! Or Super Smash Bros. with blood.
Post by: Mario on January 29, 2004, 10:59:45 PM
Post by: Termin8Anakin on January 29, 2004, 11:26:13 PM
I don't know how well Killer 7 will do, since what mario said about it is basically true - we don't know what it's about, we haven't played it, and really, I've not heard any hype for it at all besides here at PGC (or lack thereof).
I am looking forward to it, but if the fact that it's coming to PS2 means that the PS2 version gets the better deal (as most PS2 to GC, and in some cases GC to PS2 games), then I won't be buying it.
I AM intruiged by the game however.
GC SHOULD get the better end of the stick with this game, however, or else we'll only 'really' have 3 of the Capcom 5.
Post by: nolimit19 on January 30, 2004, 02:50:10 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on January 30, 2004, 03:30:16 AM
It would be REALLY funny if they announced it for PS2 to spark interest and pull support in the last minute. That'd get PS2 owners REALLY angry.
Searanox: Except for RE4 none of the 5 make sense in marketing. They are low-cost games that aren't even expected to sell well (evident by the size of VJ's initial shipment). Mikami probably just wanted to have some fun, try out ideas, etc. It's more a testing of waters than anything else.
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on January 30, 2004, 04:01:18 AM
Post by: Perfect Cell on January 30, 2004, 04:12:23 AM
This Killer 7 news is troubling, because it was the most hyped game of the new series that Capcom created. It was a cool mature game, that could have pused Gamecubes. Now PS2 owners have one less reason to buy a Gamecube. Nintendos Third Party Support is extremely weak and needs a serious shot in the arm, if it wants to change things by N5
Post by: nitsu niflheim on January 30, 2004, 05:45:03 AM
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Post by: Ian Sane on January 30, 2004, 05:59:30 AM
I figure we don't have to worry about scaled back graphics. They designed Killer 7 for the Cube first and I figure they'll continue in that direction. The PS2 version will be a port. Odds are it will even come out later. If the PS2 version is released later then the Cube will still benefit if the game is really popular. Limited exclusives (ie: nearly every major Xbox game) can be just as good as full exclusives provided the game is an immediate hit.
As for Shinji Mikami it sounds to me like he doesn't like the corporate BS at Capcom. That makes perfect sense since Capcom is the king of milking franchises for all they're worth which would naturally piss off creative developers. Nintendo would be a pretty good fit for Mikami since he would be allowed much more creative freedom, he wouldn't have to worry about ports, and he wouldn't have to see his creations be farmed off to someone else for endless sequel making. Nintendo could also use him since his mature style is a stark contrast to Miyamoto's family-friendly style and having two completely different developers working at Nintendo would cover more genres and demographics. However he might not leave because if he does he completely loses control of Resident Evil and all his other creations owned by Capcom.
Post by: jaz013 on January 30, 2004, 07:03:47 AM
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Post by: Shin Gallon on January 30, 2004, 09:40:04 AM
I'm actually finding myself playing more games from American game companies than from Japanese companies lately (and up until a year and a half ago, I'd never owned more than 1 game from an American company, and that was Rogue Leader).
As for Killer 7, I'm really interested in it. It has a very striking visual style and the trailers have piqued my curiosity. If it plays well, I'll be very happy...if it turns into another P.N. 03, I'll probably abandon all non-Street Fighter and RE games from Capcom (unless they do another Viewtiful Joe...that game was awsome).
Post by: odifiend on January 30, 2004, 10:36:21 AM
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Post by: Djunknown on January 30, 2004, 03:18:42 PM
For Killer 7, no such luck. Capcom did state that there was a chance that its lineup wasn't %100 exclusive, but I think we shook that off, going "Nah, they won't port it..."
I'm dissapointed though; if we demanded a port of Devil May Cry or Maximo, Capcom would laugh it up. This lack of confidence from Capcom makes me shake my head.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on January 30, 2004, 04:35:04 PM
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on January 30, 2004, 04:37:51 PM
Yeah, it would have been nice to have Killer 7 exclusive, but look on the bright side, we are still getting it, and developed for the GC from the ground up.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on January 30, 2004, 05:06:34 PM
Post by: Rob91883 on January 30, 2004, 05:41:37 PM
This game has really good character designs, and a creepy premise about a serial killer( thumbs up in
in the Rob camp). If it's going to be a good game, at least Nintendo is going to have it exclusive for a while before it hits PS2. But it wouldn't really sell as much gamecubes as it would have if it where exclusive; I'm not saying it was going to be a big seller, but it would have helped gamecube growth( if it's a good game) . But aside from all that, so far its looking like a good buy from me.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on January 30, 2004, 06:51:14 PM
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Originally posted by: nitsujdark
What if Capcom hasn't been up front about Killer 7 from the beginning? What if it is being developed using PS2 as the source so it can easily be done for both systems.
That's a good point, I guess we won't really know.
Post by: thUnd3Rm0nk3y on January 31, 2004, 03:00:04 PM
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Originally posted by: Shin Gallon
I'm actually finding myself playing more games from American game companies than from Japanese companies lately (and up until a year and a half ago, I'd never owned more than 1 game from an American company, and that was Rogue Leader).
Factor 5 is a German team. RL is a German game, as is Grand Theft Auto 3 and Vice City.
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Post by: CaseyRyback on January 31, 2004, 09:27:46 PM
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Originally posted by: thUnd3Rm0nk3yQuote
Originally posted by: Shin Gallon
I'm actually finding myself playing more games from American game companies than from Japanese companies lately (and up until a year and a half ago, I'd never owned more than 1 game from an American company, and that was Rogue Leader).
Factor 5 is a German team. RL is a German game, as is Grand Theft Auto 3 and Vice City.
Rockstar North is a Scottish team (made the GTA games, and manhunt)
Post by: thUnd3Rm0nk3y on January 31, 2004, 10:07:35 PM
Sorry suffering from a lack of sleep here.
Factor 5 is a German team and DMA is a Scottish team.
Post by: KDR_11k on February 01, 2004, 05:37:20 AM
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Post by: couchmonkey on February 04, 2004, 05:28:46 AM
This is frustrating, but then again, as long as we're still getting the game, why make a stink? Yes it would be nice if Killer 7 sold GameCubes to PS2 and Xbox owners, but how does it affect us personally? Capcom could dumb the graphics down, but it probably won't because the game has already been in development for the Cube for more than a year. Most likely PS2 will get a simplified port and we'll get the exact same game we would have if it wasn't exclusive.
Post by: Bloodworth on February 04, 2004, 03:36:15 PM
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Post by: vudu on February 27, 2004, 05:48:32 AM
Quotestill no word on if the game will be released on the ps2 in the united states, or if it will be a timed exclusive if it is.
During the interview Mr. Kobayashi revealed that the game will in fact be released simultaneously on both the GameCube and the PS2 in Japan.
Post by: CaseyRyback on February 27, 2004, 08:10:26 AM
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Originally posted by: kingvudu
An interview reveals a bit more about the upcoming Killer 7 game by Capcom!Quotestill no word on if the game will be released on the ps2 in the united states, or if it will be a timed exclusive if it is.
During the interview Mr. Kobayashi revealed that the game will in fact be released simultaneously on both the GameCube and the PS2 in Japan.
actually in this month's GI it says that they are having problem's getting the game apporved from SCEA. Meaning in America it could be a GCN exclusive
Post by: vudu on February 27, 2004, 09:23:30 AM
Post by: ghostVi on February 27, 2004, 12:37:03 PM
Post by: Syl on February 28, 2004, 03:29:36 PM
Anyway, think of it this way:
The games so great that they wanted to reach a broader audience.
Post by: CaseyRyback on February 28, 2004, 05:13:30 PM
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Originally posted by: Syl_Aran
Exclusivity doesn't really matter to me, Did i like Prince of Persia less because other systems got it?
Anyway, think of it this way:
The games so great that they wanted to reach a broader audience.
it matters to me only when some systems get exclusive extra's.
Post by: thecubedcanuck on March 01, 2004, 08:07:20 AM
then buy all the systems. Why bitch about it when the problem can be solved by YOU taking action.
God these topics are so freaking stupid.
Post by: vudu on March 01, 2004, 08:52:44 AM
Post by: thecubedcanuck on March 01, 2004, 11:14:29 AM
You guys simply sound like broken records.
Post by: vudu on March 01, 2004, 11:35:05 AM
the gamecube version of mega man anniversary collection features bonus interviews with the producers.
the playstation 2 version of mega man anniversary collection features bonus anime videos from the japanese series.
hence, if you want to have access to both, you must buy both versions.
i believe bonus content for prince of persia was very similar. the xbox version featured pop2, and the gc and ps2 versions had the original. or how all EA games only feature online play for the ps2 and not the xbox (or gamecube, but who can blame them). or even how splinter cell had the extra weapon/radar for the gc, and xbox had extra downloadable levels. (that last one is pushing it, because each system has a unique feature (gba connectivity and a hard drive, respectively) that makes it impossible for the others to have it.
i'm not necessary complaining about the exclusive features, i'm merely arguing on caseyryback's behalf.
