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Title: GBC=NES, GBA= SNES, can the "DS" = N64??
Post by: seiyazero on January 26, 2004, 12:33:21 PM: even tough it is pure speculation, since the performance of each and every Nintendo handheld has basicly had simarly power to a Nintendo console only with about 2X the CPU speed each time. Can the DS have abilities similar to the n64 only with a Higher poly count and better texures?
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Post by: kennyb27 on January 26, 2004, 01:15:35 PM: You said it: It's entirely speculation at this point (although maybe possible). My advice: wait until E3 and put this in the right forum area.
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Post by: Strell on January 26, 2004, 01:34:22 PM: For god's sakes I hope it's not a portable N64.
Title: RE:GBC=NES, GBA= SNES, can the "DS" = N64??
Post by: seiyazero on January 26, 2004, 01:38:01 PM: why not , If it was that would mean marioKart with 20 new and 20 classic tracks like super curcuit did. Or would about portable versions of Perfect Dark, Zelda MM, Zelda OoT, and golden eye
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Post by: kennyb27 on January 26, 2004, 01:57:30 PM: Quote
Or would about portable versions of Perfect Dark, Zelda MM, Zelda OoT, and golden eye
Minus the Perfect Dark and the GoldenEye part, right?
Title: RE: GBC=NES, GBA= SNES, can the "DS" = N64??
Post by: MattCrafty on January 26, 2004, 02:01:38 PM: I personally don't see how anyone can fit all of the buttons on the N64 on a handheld. Unless the thing was the size of a n64 controller.
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Post by: Majexto on January 26, 2004, 06:07:38 PM: It is a two screen system so I mean you cant really expect an incredibly mini portable. Also, wouldnt this be like a successor to the GBA then?
Title: RE:GBC=NES, GBA= SNES, can the "DS" = N64??
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 26, 2004, 06:44:01 PM: whether its a portable N64 or not, if the DS has 'N64' like graphics
what does that mean for the GBA2?

......... portable GC?
Title: RE: GBC=NES, GBA= SNES, can the "DS" = N64??
Post by: oohhboy on January 27, 2004, 01:12:44 AM: I see DS as an experiment. You see if DS takes off, then it would become the viable replacement to the GBA. If it doesn't take off, they always have the normal GB line.

If DS does take off, the way we play games on a handheld could possibly be changed forever as it would allow games ideas that have never been possible or effective on a single screen to be made and played. If the DS is to replace the GB line, we will still have our normal games and what not with the second screen not used at all, or in some limited fashion. Or maybe by not using the second screen, one could pump the power of both processors into one screen.

Whether it follows the orginal GB line or improvements is generally pointless because graphically, it is almost a given that it will have better graphics than a GBA. It is Nintendo hedging it's bets and if the DS becomes the primary handheld, so much the better for gamers.

But one could also think of this as the GBA version of the GBC, an upgrade, but not much of one. In that case, maybe they should come back and try later when the gap become more siginficant.
Title: RE:GBC=NES, GBA= SNES, can the "DS" = N64??
Post by: Oldskool on January 27, 2004, 08:44:48 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: Strell
For god's sakes I hope it's not a portable N64.

But what if it was a portible N64 with new games?
Title: RE: GBC=NES, GBA= SNES, can the "DS" = N64??
Post by: Majexto on January 27, 2004, 08:59:59 AM: Why is it still even being discussed that it could possible be a portable n64, that would be a predeccessor. DUH. Somthing that would make the DS stand out though was if it was capable of downloading indy developers games through usb and the internet. Just a thought is all. Also it doesnt have to have better graphics, it could have a 3d graphics processor yeah but i go back to my indy delevoper game idea. Itd give a chance for indy developers to get known etc and could bring out some possibly good and innovative ideas and fun games.
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Post by: Mannypon on January 27, 2004, 01:15:21 PM: I remember reading in the interview with nintendo on the ds that the 2 screens can be used as one whole screen when flipped on top of each other. So I guess if a developer wants to keep things simple and traditional, they can use both screens as one instead of using one and not the other. With the ability to use the 2 screens as one I dont see how this isnt goin to become the norm since we arent losing anything in our handheld gaming, we'll just be opening up alot of new ways to play and see games. It'll still play the tradition one screen games plus the new 2 screen enabled games thus eliminating the purpose of a one screen handheld. All they have to do is make the screens connect to each other without much of a divide horizontaly(since the 2 screens are supposed to be placed vertically on top of each other from what I read) through the center so it wont creat much of a distraction during games that utilize the 2 screens as a whole.

As for the graphics, it'll be better than the gba but I dont think it'll be as powerfull as a n64. Like some of you have said and nintendo have implyied, this seems to be an experiment. If it is accepted, the 2 screen design will be implemented in the next gen of gameboys IMO.
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Post by: kennyb27 on January 27, 2004, 01:21:39 PM: Quote
I remember reading in the interview with nintendo on the ds that the 2 screens can be used as one whole screen when flipped on top of each other.
This is going to be one weird-looking system.
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Post by: Mannypon on January 27, 2004, 01:27:00 PM: Quote
Originally posted by: kennyb27
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This is going to be one weird-looking system.

Yeah lol, I'm having a hard time building a mental picture of it myself. From what Ive read in other forums and articles, alot of people are thinking that the 2 screens could possibly flip over on top of each somewhat like the gbsp, therefore it'll protect both screens when its not being played.
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Post by: Uglydot on January 28, 2004, 09:27:39 AM: DS is the THIRD pillar, so I don't expect Nintendo to be replacing the GBA with it.
Title: RE: GBC=NES, GBA= SNES, can the "DS" = N64??
Post by: Mannypon on January 28, 2004, 02:36:17 PM: they wont replace the gba with it, they'll observe how the market accepts this and then implement what is popular from the ds into the next gen gameboy.
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Post by: Ian Sane on January 29, 2004, 06:46:57 AM: "whether its a portable N64 or not, if the DS has 'N64' like graphics what does that mean for the GBA2?"

I'm pretty sure the DS is the GBA2. Nintendo is likely either playing up this third pillar stuff so as not to hurt GBA sales or like oohhboy mentioned they're going to see how it's accepted and they'll only make a new Gameboy if it completely bombs. Anything that can be done on a single screen portable can be done on a dual screen one so there's no point for the GBA to coexist with the DS. The GBA will remain a "pillar" like the PS1 is a "pillar": a budget system with minimal support.

While I don't really have a problem with a 3D portable, though I wish 2D would stick around longer, if it's going to look like the N64 they shouldn't bother. Those games look terrible and will only look worse on a tiny screen. The PSP is supposedly going to have near PS2 graphics. If the DS is 3D it should look at least Dreamcast good for both clarity reasons and to compete.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on January 29, 2004, 10:37:22 AM: Doubt it...In that recent interview it was hinted that the successors to the GC and GBA were in the works...

I'm thinking that the higher-priced DS is Ninty's answer to the PSP, while maintaining the cheaper GBA for the majority market(I don't think nearly as many consumers are going to purchase a PSP/DS as did a GBA)...
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on January 30, 2004, 05:53:32 PM: The Nintendo 64's blurry textures almost killed my eyes on a television. Can you image squinting at first generation N64 type graphics on two pissy little screens? No thanks! =D

Down with 3D on handhelds. ;___; WHY DOES EVERYBODY WANT TO KILL OFF 2D? *Cries*
Title: RE:GBC=NES, GBA= SNES, can the "DS" = N64??
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on January 30, 2004, 07:26:58 PM: Quote
Originally posted by: Infernal Monkey
Down with 3D on handhelds. ;___; WHY DOES EVERYBODY WANT TO KILL OFF 2D? *Cries*

I agree. I love my GBA. *hugs it* 2D games today can be just as good as 3D games.

And why would I want to play an inferior 3D game on a handheld when it can be played on a home console with better graphics?
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Post by: KDR_11k on January 30, 2004, 09:54:56 PM: AiAi: Because home consoles aren't portable?
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Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on January 31, 2004, 12:19:56 AM: Blast! I knew someone would say that.

Yeah, true, but I want 2D gaming the be mainly on handhelds so they won't die out. There aren't many 2D games on home consoles anymore. And I suspect that Sony would like to kill 2D gaming because it is 3D gaming that really shows off a system's power (however weird that may sound).
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Post by: Uglydot on January 31, 2004, 07:24:26 AM: Quote

And why would I want to play an inferior 3D game on a handheld when it can be played on a home console with better graphics?

We did do this with the original GB...
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Post by: darknight06 on February 03, 2004, 04:04:31 AM: Don't take this as fact, but I've heard that Castlevania Symphony of the Night was being made as a launch game for the PSP.