Post by: Bloodworth on January 15, 2004, 05:34:51 AM
Reported by Daniel Bloodworth
Source: Nintendo Press Release
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NINTENDO SALES SKYROCKET IN THE U.S. AND AROUND THE WORLD
Nintendo GameCube: the Only Home Console with Positive Growth in 2003
REDMOND, Wash., Jan. 15, 2004 – Around the world and around the block, Nintendo has taken a leadership position in the video game industry. Hardware and software sales in 2003 made significant leaps over 2002, and Nintendo's success bumped Microsoft's Xbox to the No. 3 position in the 2003 console wars.
Global holiday sales for Nintendo GameCube™ in 2003 outpaced 2002 by a whopping 70 percent, and Nintendo anticipates it will meet its global sales target of 6 million Nintendo GameCube systems this fiscal year.
Nintendo estimates for 2003, Nintendo GameCube U.S. hardware sales increased by more than 35 percent over 2002; Sony's PlayStation 2 dropped by about 25 percent and Xbox showed no relevant market growth. In December alone, Nintendo GameCube hardware sales soared 69 percent over December 2002, compared to a drop of about 30 percent for PlayStation 2. Again, Xbox showed little change.
U.S. sales got a boost from a Sept. 25 price drop, which brought Nintendo GameCube to an MSRP of $99.99. Now Nintendo GameCube has nearly 6.8 million units sold in the U.S. since its 2001 launch. And Mario Kart®: Double Dash!!™ has become the fastest-selling Nintendo GameCube game in the United States, selling more than 1 million units in just seven weeks.
"With the price drop for Nintendo GameCube and strong games across the board, we expected to have a good holiday season, but these numbers surpassed even our best projections," explains George Harrison, Nintendo of America's senior vice president of marketing and corporate communications. "Nintendo GameCube and Game Boy Advance have become the engines powering the video game industry this year."
The hand-held Game Boy® Advance also saw double-digit increases in the United States, with nearly 2.5 million units sold in December, an 11 percent increase over December 2002. Nintendo sold more than 8.2 million Game Boy Advance systems in 2003, an increase of 18 percent over 2002 and the most sold in one calendar year in the 14-year history of the Game Boy. In 2003, the Game Boy Advance outsold PlayStation 2 by nearly 2 million units.
Nintendo also led the way during the holiday season's software boom. The 2003 sales for Nintendo GameCube software increased 63 percent over 2002, while Xbox software increased 54 percent and PlayStation 2 software increased 23 percent. Nintendo expects to continue riding the wave of success through 2004, with a steady flow of strong software titles, including Final Fantasy®: Crystal Chronicles™ in February and Pokémon Colosseum™ in March.
Post by: nolimit19 on January 15, 2004, 07:32:11 AM
Post by: Kyosho on January 15, 2004, 10:27:00 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 15, 2004, 11:27:06 AM
Post by: DarkSyphor on January 15, 2004, 11:49:17 AM
but at least Nintendo did alright
Post by: Kyosho on January 15, 2004, 12:28:30 PM
"Into what hardware will you place your resources for 2004"
Unsurprisingly though, according to the polls, Nintendo's company is on top for the rankings for software development.
Post by: mouse_clicker on January 15, 2004, 12:30:32 PM
Post by: VoodooMerlin on January 16, 2004, 03:21:11 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on January 16, 2004, 09:31:41 AM
Post by: jaz013 on January 16, 2004, 12:28:31 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Publishers love the PS2 because even crap sells on it. Developers hate the PS2 because of the retrictions placed by the hardware.
Money talks. You can overlook these restrictions if you know that your 6 months developed game will sell at least enought to make profit. Besides, I think GC owners are much more selective on the software they get (i don't know why, but I still think GC owners are much more "hardcore").
Post by: mouse_clicker on January 16, 2004, 12:31:21 PM
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Besides, I think GC owners are much more selective on the software they get
It's not that we're selective, it's just that since we're all Nintendo fans, we'd much rather buy a Nintendo game than a mysterious 3rd party title that may or may not be good at all.
Post by: oohhboy on January 17, 2004, 12:57:50 AM
If I was a total Nintendo fan I would have more of thier titles in my collection, but I am not. I look for the best of the best and games that have that X factor. If a Nintendo games doesn't have that X factor I won't buy it.
But that doesn't stop me from going to a friends house and play a game I would have not otherwise have played. If it is fun I will play it. But it has to be special if I am to buy it.
Post by: Plugabugz on January 17, 2004, 03:43:31 AM
That said there are people with both consoles, but having played both, I find the games i'd buy on my cube are more targeted to what i like (aside the fact that it's my cube in the first place
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Post by: KDR_11k on January 17, 2004, 04:02:21 AM
Post by: jaz013 on January 18, 2004, 07:52:24 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
jaz: The devs themselves usually don't see a cent of the money generated by sales. It all goes to the publisher or their employer, the employees rarely get more money for better sales. That's the gamble the publisher does for the dev house: The devs get a steady income while the publisher becomes rich if the game sells good or takes a hit if it doesn't. Dev houses producing games that don't sell get dissolved pretty fast, though.
Well, you are repeating what I just say. If you as developer sees that a game in the PS2 is more likely to be published that releasing the same in GC, the most of the games would be developed for the first. And what makes that a publisher decide to go on with a game?, well, the security that the game would at least generate some money. If you know that even poorly-make games sells, then you publish all the games you can, so in the numbers be the safety of income. That easy. It's like the cinemas, if a movie is really bad, but still many people is willing to see it, they proyect it, even lefting out some other good movies.
Post by: thecubedcanuck on January 18, 2004, 11:08:44 AM
this is the way I look at it as well. It is also the main reason that I havent purchased very many Nintendo exclusives for the cube, I simply dont feel that Nintendo's games are any better than many of the competitions anymore.
At one time a Nintendo game was guarenteed great, IMO that just isnt the case anymore.
Post by: Kyosho on January 18, 2004, 11:50:41 PM
I've returned several 1st/2nd party exclusives because I thought they weren't keepers including Metroid Prime and Super Mario Sunshine. Right now, I have my eye on Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles and Tales of Symphonia from the EB upcoming games list. And that's it. Does anyone else see a semi-shortage of titles? Im sure Harvest Moon will be fun... but not my cup of tea.
Post by: KDR_11k on January 19, 2004, 07:13:45 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on January 19, 2004, 07:49:35 AM
Post by: Jale on January 19, 2004, 08:20:47 AM
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Originally posted by: Kyosho
As usual, the GBA is Nintendo's best selling product.
Thats probably because Nintendo has a near-monopoly on hand held gaming at this moment in time.
Post by: mouse_clicker on January 19, 2004, 08:43:17 AM
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Thats probably because Nintendo has a near-monopoly on hand held gaming at this moment in time.
And with Bandai giving up on the Wonderswan, Nintendo has even more of a strangehold on the handheld market.
Post by: thecubedcanuck on January 19, 2004, 11:35:22 AM
When I bought my gamecube I didnt know I wouldnt like as many Nin flagship titles as I once did. I thought I would like the next Mario game or the Zelda, I didnt like either one. As a result of my experience, this will probably be my last Nintendo console, unless third party support increases a lot for the N5. The reason being I am still a huge fan of Nin hardware.
Post by: nolimit19 on January 19, 2004, 11:37:39 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on January 19, 2004, 12:13:09 PM
Post by: Kyosho on January 19, 2004, 04:26:09 PM
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Most of all, though, don't complain to us about how you think Nintendo's declining- you are perfectly capable of fixing that problem, and you know it. No one is forcing you to own a Gamecube or play Nintendo games.
We are prime examples of what Nintendo needs to improve on. Has the thought ever occurred that we bought it in hopes that it will be a step closer to how the SNES once was? My dad bought me the NES the month it came out. I still have the old gray vintage hardware in my closet. If anything, after been a fan of Nintendo this long, I have a right to *complain* about things that I want out of Nintendo. Complaining improves things. Blindly praising every Nintendo game as a monument success is not.
Every Nintendo generation gets worse and worse, but I've stuck it through this long. Maybe finally hope will return its favor, and Nintendo will bounce back next generation.
So in my eyes, you're just a kid who is overly content with your system. You obviously have little to no understanding of the industry via the general consumer.
Post by: mouse_clicker on January 19, 2004, 04:30:05 PM
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So in my eyes, you're just a kid who is overly content with your system. You obviously have little to no understanding of the industry via the general consumer.
Kyosho, this is why I hate talking to you. Have you ever considered that maybe Nintendo just isn't fulfilling YOUR needs, while they are fulfilling MINE? You're acting like your opinion is law, that if you think Nintendo has been getting worse, it's not open for debate. I agree, yes, Nintendo should try to appeal to everyone, including you, but don't complain to ME because they're not. You're perfectly capable of selling your Gamecube and getting a PS2 or XBox- in fact, if you DID, Nintendo might get the idea a little quicker.
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 19, 2004, 04:33:02 PM
Post by: Kyosho on January 19, 2004, 10:17:36 PM
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Have you ever considered that maybe Nintendo just isn't fulfilling YOUR needs, while they are fulfilling MINE?
You know if your memory wasnt of a gnat, you would have remembered that I've reiterated that fact several times in our last confrontation. So in response to the above quoted question, an exclamated 'yes.'
Am I really complaining to you? I know complaining to a 15 year old kid isn't going to solve anything. If anything, I am pointing out the certain flaws in your opinion. You, at the same time want Nintendo to succeed, yet also at the same time want anyone who complains to discontinue supporting Nintendo despite them being longterm fans and despite them supporting Nintendo since its inception. Here's something new to you... even the best of fans still whine. It just so happens that we're not satisfied, but we still support Ninty by at least waiting for the games we want to come out.
That's an obvious hypocritical stance on the whole situation and if anything is hypocritical to everything you have written around your editorial. I forgot to mention this, but I have a PS2 already.
Bill, in regards to the quality issue, I agree somewhat. When I mean a Nintendo generation gets worse, I am talking about just the overall vibe of the system and games, not necessarily the quality of the games. This is definitely due to the lack of advertising as well as many major media sources belittling the company. I usually accept things with a grain of salt, but again this usually depicts the stance the company has in the software industry as well as amongst the public.
Post by: thecubedcanuck on January 20, 2004, 01:38:05 AM
the problem is that you have become the MINORITY with this type of statement.
I use be a total diehard Nintendo fan, I have had every Nin system to date. Hell I didnt even buy a PS1, and I can bet that there are many many people out there just like me in this regard. I would also bet, that it is safe to say, that like me, a lot of these people have moved away from Nintendo for other sytems or other forums of media in general.
It is really great to say that Nin still meets your needs, but from a business standpoint, and I am talking cube only, not GBA, that Nin is not meeting the needs of nearly the number of people it once did, and IMO that number is getting smaller all the time. Yes, 2.5 million cubes sold for 99 bucks, but time will tell if software sales, anywhere near match those numbers, I am guessing they wont.
I simply dont find Nin games to be as good anymore, I dont have as much fun playing them as I do many other games.
Its as simple as that, I dont want your sympathy, because I myself dont even care.
Post by: oohhboy on January 20, 2004, 02:11:37 AM
Maybe this all this feeling of Nintendos games are not matching up to expectations anymore are due to the fact that games really has reached the point where your not getting as much out of it as you go out of it last generation. Just maybe, this side effect has leveled the playing field as that other developers can now match up to Nintendo making the games they are making now not seem so special.
Just maybe it isn't Nintendo's fault and it is just a natural evolution of things. Think about it.
Post by: mouse_clicker on January 20, 2004, 02:31:22 AM
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You, at the same time want Nintendo to succeed, yet also at the same time want anyone who complains to discontinue supporting Nintendo despite them being longterm fans and despite them supporting Nintendo since its inception.
Insults aside, I believe you've completely misunderstood me. What I'm saying is if you don't like Nintendo anymore, why continue to support them? As long as you continue buying Nintendo products, Nintendo will still think you like their products. Bitching about it on a fansite forum is just going to irritate people, as I think it's already been shown. If you REALLY believe that Nintendo has declined, do something about it and stop shelling out your hard earned cash for games you don't like- the fact that you've supported Nintendo so long should be completely irrelevent. You are perfectly capable of fixing your problem and yet you don't. THAT'S why I don't want to hear you complaining. It's not that I don't want anyone to complain about Nintendo at all, it just pisses me off when that's ALL they do- you never follow up on your complaints. There's no reason to support a console you don't like. You have a PS2, start buying some games for it instead of your Gamecube- I guarantee you'll be more satisfied. I'm trying to help you, Kyosho.
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the problem is that you have become the MINORITY with this type of statement.
Again, you guys are acting like your opinion is universal. Except you, cubed, tried to use some sketchy sales numbers to back yourself up. There's a dozen other factors to consider when looking at sales (namely that there's a 3rd major console this generation whereas before there were at most 2). I don't really think you or I can speak for everyone, so let's not try, hm? I'll say it again- if you really don't like your Gamecube, get rid of it. I'm not saying this because I'm some kind of fanboy, I'm saying this because there is honestly no reason to keep a console you neither like nor play. And yet you still support it! It's like donating to a cause you don't believe in! Your money would be better spent on another system, seeing as at least there your gaming needs would be satisfied since Nintendo hasn't done that for you. Seriously, I didn't think you guys would take such huge offense to a simple idea to save some money.
Post by: thecubedcanuck on January 20, 2004, 03:58:21 AM
I already own all 3 systems, and money to me is not an issue, so selling my cube is simply a waste of time.
I keep my cube for multi platform games, because I like the fast load times and the wavebird, and the hope that maybe I will like the odd exclusive such as ED and RE.
"Again, you guys are acting like your opinion is universal. Except you, cubed, tried to use some sketchy sales numbers to back yourself up. "
Pardon me? The Cube is in last place, this has nothing to do with sketchy sales numbers, it has to do with fact. The price drop is the only reason the cube has even pulled close to MS (who is a console newcomer I might add) , so saying our opinion isnt universal is being very blind to the fact, that indeed, Nintendo is losing customers.
As for offense, I take none, I just find this very funny.
Post by: nolimit19 on January 20, 2004, 05:54:18 AM
Post by: PaLaDiN on January 20, 2004, 06:00:24 AM
I was following your argument until you said the Cube was in last place.
Where are you getting your info from, and are you under the influence of any substances while you view it?
Post by: KDR_11k on January 20, 2004, 06:20:23 AM
"Old school" gamers call other people ignorant for not liking Space Invaders or calling Pong boring. Well, those games might have held an appeal back then, but nowadays we know the taste of blood, we expect more from our games. By the standards we applied back in 1990, Super Mario Sunshine would be a universally praised superhit, nowadays everybody just shouts "this is worse than Mario 64!". Have the games changed or did we?
People also expect jumps in quality that cannot be repeated. If Sony's games were around before the invention of 3d, everybody would expect a jump in gameplay as large as the one from 2d to 3d in every release. That's plain impossible. Quotes like "It's good, but it doesn't have the jump in quality that its predecessor had" litter reviews of Soul Calibur II. Was that because Soul Calibur I was soo good or because Soul Edge just sucked? Apparently you may not put all you can do into a single game unless you want people to complain about the successor. Be happy it was in the previous game already and you didn't have to wait until now to get it!
Post by: Kyosho on January 20, 2004, 09:26:55 AM
Bitching about it is only going to irritate those who are led by blind faith. It's so blatantly obvious. There are some who LIKE Nintendo yet willingly accept its flaws such as nolimit. And there are some who are dumbstruck to where they feel their fanboyism governes all. This is a Gamecube forum after all right? We have the privilege to discuss or in your views, complain, about the Gamecube. You don't want to hear it, then go look at the wall.
I still like Nintendo to the point where I am still thinking of buying the next system. But there are some like cubedcanuck who have lost faith in Nintendo and won't be supporting the system next generation. I am very selective in my choice of games. I have enough money in my income to buy games that it's not an issue. I've actually stopped spending cash on games for Gamecube. In fact I returned quite a few of them so your act of helpin just shows how little insight you have of me.
I've actually followed up on my complaints several times already. I supported my stance with my job experience which has an obvious larger impact than you basing your views on forums and websites amongst the more vocal minority. Not everyone knows there are forums. Again, go get a job at a retail store.
Suggesting for me to save money is such an ignorant statement that only you would make. I am not in a financial crisis where every single penny needs to be thought of. I got the Gamecube for free after trading in my N64 and all my games. I've only spent a *total* of about 150$ on the Gamecube which were ONLY games, which I am also constantly recycling into preorders waiting for the PS3 to come out.
The cube is not necessarily last place worldwide anymore. It has gain much ground from the higher holiday sales. The Cube is about neck to neck with the Xbox in the US, but has higher ground to the Xbox in Japan. That doesn't mean it's a good thing. People keep saying to not compare it to the PS2 and compare it with the Xbox. The xbox is a 1st generation console. Nintendo is already on its 4th generation. Why compare to 1st generation console that is doing mediocre? That just brings you down. They need to start comparing to the PS2. They need to understand what kind of buyers are out there.
Post by: mouse_clicker on January 20, 2004, 11:05:44 AM
You have a Gamecube. You quite obviously do not like your Gamecube and think Nintendo has declined. I am NOT debating this point- it is purely a matter of opinion, and as we all know we can NOT act like subjective points are right or wrong. But since you DON'T like Nintendo anymore, you should, in all honesty, get rid of your Gamecube- there is no use in keeping a product you neither like nor use. Using the money you would get from selling your Gamecube, I suggest you buy either a PS2 or XBox, basically something you WILL like. I do not mean this derisively, and mean this helpfully- if you're not satisfied with your Gamecube, by all means drop it and get something that WILL satisfy you. But when you make the conscious decision NOT to sell your Gamecube, you have absolutely no right to complain in my eyes because you know very well that there is nothing at all stopping you from solving your own problem- instead, you choose to whine about it. I have no respect and no tolerance for people that complain about things they are perfectly capable of fixing. In other words you have only yourself to blame for your continued unhappiness with your Gamecube because you refuse to get rid of it. Cubed, you say you can afford to own all 3 consoles and it would be more of a hassle to get rid of your Gamecube, yet why can't you afford some self tolerance and decide not to bitch and moan about how you don't like your Gamecube because you won't get rid of it? I couldn't care less if you all hated Nintendo, which I know is not true- there is positively no reason to keep a product that does not fulfill its sole obligation to you. I liken this to the willing act of self-torturing- you may not have brought this dissatisfaction on yourself, but you're certainly, and knowingly, keeping it there. Complaining will get you nowhere- if you really want Nintendo to heed your call, stop giving them your money. Nintendo doesn't care what you think about their products, just as long as you keep buying them, which you are. Honestly, how can you not see the benefit in exchanging your makeshift dust collector for something you will actually PLAY and ENJOY? As long as you don't, whining will only win you the contempt of your peers. Either get rid of your Gamecube or stop your incessant complaining.
Sorry for those whose eyes now hurt after reading that, but since neither Cubed, nolimit, nor Kyosho bothered to read my posts well enough to understand them, I felt my newest one needed an attentioned getter. They seem to think I'm arguing Nintendo's supposed decline, which we do have conflicting and equally substantiated opinons on, but I'm getting at something much different. In any case, I'm through trying to talk to them.
Post by: manunited4eva22 on January 20, 2004, 11:33:39 AM
I want you to list every mature title on SNES that you fell in love with and that has brought you back title after title to get a new hold on it. I can only name about 3 titles that were mature that I even remember, most of them were just ports of a PC game or were a fighter that has since basically died.
Lets look at the facts here, you have changed, not nintendo. You feel that because you were here first, nintendo should will to your feelings because somehow you represent most of nintendo's market. This is true to some extent, but hardcore gamers aren't the ones that are building Nintendo's userbase back to respectable numbers. It's the casual gamers who are driving the sales, the guys who haven't forgotten what it was like to be a kid and to enjoy a game like mario kart, which for all it's faults offers something that most people can identify with; a game where nearly anyone can pick it up, learn the controls quickly, yet still provide enough depth that everyone can enjoy it.
What I am seeing from Kyosho mostly, is that he feels that he is too old for a game like Mario or Zelda, and that he wants to see these two series move in a direction that is either more mature or that is just overall more ambient, nothing to really give the game much of a personality. Well the second of these options just isn't going to happen, as this is the opposite of where hardware is driving, with the ability to create blisteringly detailed levels, people expect that, and just won't except a game that is a lot less ambiant.
The first option is where there is the split and we get all these fights, a lot of people want the series to grow with them, others want it to remain mostly unchanged. Which is better is up to an opinion, you can't definitively say either way. What is clear however is that for the rest of the gamecube they will keep the games less mature if that's how you want to describe it, and if you want it to change you are looking in the wrong place.
If this is something that you can never get over with, you really should just invest in a PS2 and Xbox and look for a title to come a long that you feel is up to par with your expecations. Otherwise stick around, and enjoy what Nintendo makes, just don't waste your time and energy screaming about how gamecube suxors and all that.
Post by: thecubedcanuck on January 20, 2004, 12:04:28 PM
not true at all, I just havent found any of the current Nin releases to be fun, or as much fun as comparable 3rd party titles, ie 1080 vs ssx3
Mouse, I do understand what you are saying and I am not bitching. I am merely stating that at this point I am not as happy with my Nin purchace as I have been with previous Nin purchases. I see no need to sell it as money isnt an issue, and I would never be able to recoup my investment anyhow, but I also dont see why I cant voice my opinion on why I am not happy.
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 20, 2004, 12:36:45 PM
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not true at all, I just havent found any of the current Nin releases to be fun, or as much fun as comparable 3rd party titles, ie 1080 vs ssx3.
"Fun" is relative...I've had a ball with Ninty's games, particularly Wind Waker, Pikmin, SMS, and SSB:M...
And I would like to add that I thought 1080 was much better than SSX3...
Post by: nolimit19 on January 20, 2004, 12:44:02 PM
Post by: Kyosho on January 20, 2004, 12:53:14 PM
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. But when you make the conscious decision NOT to sell your Gamecube, you have absolutely no right to complain in my eyes because you know very well that there is nothing at all stopping you from solving your own problem- instead, you choose to whine about it. I have no respect and no tolerance for people that complain about things they are perfectly capable of fixing
I am sorry but I am definitely talking with a kid here. I thought I made a point that this is a forum to voice my opinions whether it be for or against Nintendo. I also thought I made a point as to why money was not an issue to me. But apparently, Mouse has been struck with the dunce hammer after reiterating several things that have been said already.
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Complaining will get you nowhere- if you really want Nintendo to heed your call, stop giving them your money
Let's face the facts here from the supplier position. You sell a Gamecube to EB, does that hurt Nintendo in any way? Nintendo has already received the 150$ it sold from that Gamecube when you last bought it. EB in turn takes the system and cleans it up and sells it back. It then makes profit off the Gamecube. The new buyer of the used Gamecube now buys games. So in turn, instead of Nintendo profiting from console purchase, it still profits from game purchases. So either way, they still make profit. So if I were to follow your flawed logic, I would still be helping Nintendo indirectly.
And for the last time, this is a forum. The purpose of a forum, might I remind you MouseClicker, is to discuss. You dont want to hear the whines, then like I said go look at the wall. You don't have to read these if you refuse to understand other people's opinions. Someone mentioned earlier... what would a forum be if it was full of people blindly praising Nintendo...
manunited,
I never said I was too old for a game like Zelda. In fact, Zelda is my favorite Gamecube game as of right now.
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Lets look at the facts here, you have changed, not nintendo. You feel that because you were here first, nintendo should will to your feelings because somehow you represent most of nintendo's market. This is true to some extent, but hardcore gamers aren't the ones that are building Nintendo's userbase back to respectable numbers. It's the casual gamers who are driving the sales, the guys who haven't forgotten what it was like to be a kid and to enjoy a game like mario kart, which for all it's faults offers something that most people can identify with; a game where nearly anyone can pick it up, learn the controls quickly, yet still provide enough depth that everyone can enjoy it
That is true that I have changed. However, I do not think I represent most of Nintendo's market. If anything I say, I am trying to say it from the utmost neutral viewpoint. As for the sales, it's due to the price drop. For games such as Mario kart, I doubt many buyers will return a game like that. Even though they are disappointed, such as myself, I still will keep it. So those sales will just keep on increasing based on past popularity.
As for wanting games to change, I think you've misread many things already. I really dont care much about the kiddy appearance of 1st/2nd party games. It's more or less the 3rd party part that I want more of in both quantity and quality. There's only 3 games that I'm looking forward to right now: FFCC, Harvest Moon, and Tales of Symphonia. I might also pick up Madden 2005 if it's not gimped compared to the other consoles.
Post by: Bloodworth on January 20, 2004, 05:32:03 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on January 20, 2004, 05:39:20 PM
In any case, so I don't get banned, I'll be interested to see how long Nintendo's sales boon lasts. It's entirely possible that it was really only the Christmas season that carried the interest for the Gamecube, but I hope not.
Post by: thecubedcanuck on January 21, 2004, 03:59:19 AM
Sorry if I got off topic.
Mouse
First, thanks for sticking up for me
That is the point I was trying to make, how long will price drop work for, and how will software sales end up as a result?
Also, please correct me if I am wrong. Is MS not ahead of NIN in north american sales?
