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Title: Overal Sales
Post by: FOX McLOUD on January 09, 2004, 05:30:03 AM: Can anyone provide me with the exact and official numbers for total hardware sales in America, and the total hardware sales worldwide.

Thanks ahead of time.
Title: RE:Overall Sales
Post by: nolimit19 on January 09, 2004, 09:09:27 AM: Hardware Sales in North America
(For the month of November 2003)
Rank    System    Manufacturer    Units Sold    Total Sold
1    GameBoy Advance    Nintendo    1,323,000    17,633,000
2    PlayStation 2    Sony    849,000    20,288,000
3    GameCube    Nintendo    754,000    5,702,000
4    Xbox    Microsoft    491,000    6,669,000
Title: RE: Overall Sales
Post by: nolimit19 on January 09, 2004, 09:18:22 AM: japanese sales for 2003
1. PlayStation 2- 2,994,000
2. Gameboy Advance SP- 2,433,000
3. Gameboy Advance- 1,180,000
4. Gamecube- 1,040,000
5. Xbox- 97,000
6. PSone- 61,000
7. Wonderswan- 47,000
Title: RE:Overall Sales
Post by: joeamis on January 09, 2004, 02:24:04 PM: is it me or would the game industry be selling zilch without north america sales?
Title: RE: Overall Sales
Post by: Mario on January 09, 2004, 06:01:50 PM: Yeah because Europe doesnt exist. PS2 is like 55 million worldwide, and 20 million are from the US. 35 million isnt zilch.

PS2 is number one worldwide with around 55 million (give or take a few million), GameCube should be second with around 12 million, Xbox would be last with something between 10 and 12 million. When i can be bothered, i will look up exact figures.
Title: RE:Overall Sales
Post by: TenceRiker on January 10, 2004, 09:31:48 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: nolimit19
japanese sales for 2003
1. PlayStation 2- 2,994,000
2. Gameboy Advance SP- 2,433,000
3. Gameboy Advance- 1,180,000
4. Gamecube- 1,040,000
5. Xbox- 97,000
6. PSone- 61,000
7. Wonderswan- 47,000

Why does Microsoft even try....stick to America/Canada/Eu...Austraila
Title: RE:Overall Sales
Post by: odifiend on January 10, 2004, 02:01:00 PM: Remember M$ doesn't seem to care whether they make a profit or not. But yeah it doesn't seem they can break that culture barrier.
Fail, fail damn you. Sorry lost the happy.
Title: RE: Overall Sales
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 11, 2004, 05:21:21 PM: I forgive you.
Title: RE:Overall Sales
Post by: DrZoidberg on January 11, 2004, 09:09:08 PM: Quote
Originally posted by: joeamis
is it me or would the game industry be selling zilch without north america sales?

sure would! i mean let's ignore all of japan and the combined PAL market's sales, ignore the fact that 90% of good game developers/publishers reside in japan, also we should probably ignore the fact that the japanese have pretty much invented gaming as we know it

but hay, USA IS BETTAH
Title: RE:Overall Sales
Post by: nolimit19 on January 12, 2004, 09:07:08 AM: he said selling...and he is somewhat right. northamerica sells more then anywhere else.
Title: RE:Overall Sales
Post by: odifiend on January 12, 2004, 09:28:28 AM: nolimit, did you just bend the space time continuum? or where you responding to someone other than Zoidberg because according to the time he posted after you but your post seemed like a direct response. Respond soon or the aneurisms will be upon me... and I don't want to die.
Title: RE: Overall Sales
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 12, 2004, 09:38:05 AM: On a forum, a reply is a direct response as long as it's the next post... ^_^
Title: RE:Overall Sales
Post by: vudu on January 12, 2004, 09:54:07 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: odifiend
according to the time he posted after you but your post seemed like a direct response. Respond soon or the aneurisms will be upon me... and I don't want to die.
actually, nolimit19 responded 11 hours and 58 minutes after zoidberg, not 2 minutes before. looks like the am/pm threw ya.
Title: RE:Overall Sales
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 12, 2004, 10:05:54 AM: Well, I might as well put the week's sales in Japan here, since I do NOT feel like searching for/making another topic for them...The first number is the week's sales, and the second is total sales...

For the week of Dec. 29 - Jan 4...
1     Rockman EXE 4 Tournament- GBA----105,926--641,762
2    Gran Turismo 4------------------PS2----105,277--596,458
3    Mario Party 5---------------------GC-----99,038--580,091
4    Mario Kart: Double Dash!!-----GC-----91,895--659,744
5    Donkey Konga-------------------GC-----87,667--326,067
6    Momotaro Dentetsu 12--------PS2-----80,584--286,648
7    Fullmetal Alchemist-------------PS2-----73,814--195,176
8    Everybody's Golf 4--------------PS2-----71,865--947,117
9    Mario & Luigi RPG---------------GBA-----68,158--342,968
10    Pokomon Colosseum-----------GC-----63,131--548,817

Nice round for Ninty...

Source: The Magic Box
Title: RE:Overall Sales
Post by: odifiend on January 12, 2004, 10:41:54 AM: lol... sorry don't know how I missed that. And I looked at it so many times... damn dyslexia.
Title: RE:Overall Sales
Post by: joeamis on January 12, 2004, 12:13:40 PM: let me get this straight now:::
Hardware Sales in North America 2003
1 GameBoy Advance Nintendo 17,633,000
2 PlayStation 2 Sony 20,288,000
3 GameCube Nintendo 5,702,000
4 Xbox Microsoft 6,669,000

japanese sales for 2003
1. PlayStation 2- 2,994,000
2. Gameboy Advance SP- 2,433,000
3. Gameboy Advance- 1,180,000
4. Gamecube- 1,040,000
5. Xbox- 97,000
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so in north america, ps2 outsold japan by 17,294,000
gba outsold japan by 14,020,000
GC outsold japan by 4,662,000
XB outsold japan by 6,572,000

so ps2 outsold japan by about 5 times as many consoles
and you can see the fold on the other systems too

japan is the largest gaming community outside north america,
so do you see what i mean now?
Title: RE:Overall Sales
Post by: FFantasyFX on January 12, 2004, 02:43:44 PM: Joeamis: Nope, that's not exactly correct, although you couldn't help but draw that conclusion from the information presented. The North American sales are the total installed base since the introduction of the systems. The Japanese sales are only for 2003. I can't give exact figures, but each system has sold at least these many systems since their introductions in Japan:

Playstation 2 -- 12 million
Nintendo Gamecube -- 2.5 million
Microsoft XBox -- 300,000

Those numbers are the absolute minimum, as they leave out sales for the second half of 2002.

Sources:

http://www.the-magicbox.com/game051802.htm
http://www.the-magicbox.com/Chart-BestSell2003b.shtml
Title: RE:Overall Sales
Post by: Kyosho on January 12, 2004, 03:21:19 PM: What about the other foreign countries like Taiwan, China, and Korea? They have some fairly large gaming crowds there too.
Title: RE:Overall Sales
Post by: mouse_clicker on January 12, 2004, 03:26:49 PM: They also have HUGE piracy problems- I don't think any major console has even been released in those regions up until recently, with the PS2.

Also, Taiwan is technically not its own country yet, since China still lays claim to its land. Even if it was, I don't think it could be considered a large gaming market in of itself, not unless it were lumped in with China as I assume it normally is.
Title: RE:Overall Sales
Post by: Kyosho on January 12, 2004, 03:33:42 PM: Technically you're correct. However, when I go to Taiwan, I say "Taiwan" not China. I meant it more of a regional thing. The PS2 was available in Taiwan a few months after it was released in Japan. How do I know? Because I was there when it happened. They have all the major consoles. In fact they probably get it sooner than the US because importing is much easier. As for the piracy issue in Taiwan in particular, they have been cracking down on that for several years now. People are really scared now when they try to sell you that stuff. They have spotters all over the place who radio in if they see cops come. As for China, can't really say about games. I'll just say i was able to buy pirated CDs/movies much easier in China than Taiwan.
Title: RE:Overall Sales
Post by: mouse_clicker on January 12, 2004, 03:51:20 PM: Well, I know for a fact that piracy is rampant in China and Korea especially, making it difficult for any major consoles to get a widespread release.
Title: RE:Overall Sales
Post by: nolimit19 on January 13, 2004, 11:22:29 AM: now im confused about the numbers, but im pretty sure my first numbers are right.

Hardware Sales in North America
(For the month of November 2003)
Rank System Manufacturer Units Sold Total Sold
1 GameBoy Advance Nintendo 1,323,000 17,633,000
2 PlayStation 2 Sony 849,000 20,288,000
3 GameCube Nintendo 754,000 5,702,000
4 Xbox Microsoft 491,000 6,669,000

the first number is sales for november for 2003, and the 2nd number is for the total sales since launch. just think about it...there is no way the cube sold nearly 6 million this year in just north america.....or has it....dang. well anyways i dont think it has. whatever someone will sort it out.

anyways pirating is also horrible in india...i heard that is one of the worst places because they dont acknowledge any international copyright laws.
Title: RE:Overall Sales
Post by: joeamis on January 13, 2004, 01:18:37 PM: ok lol I didn't look into it deeply enough
my mistake, thanks hehehe
Title: RE: Overall Sales
Post by: WesDawg on January 14, 2004, 04:18:26 AM: OT: I work with this guy from Turkey, and he always catches me at Nintendo sites and starts trying to explain to me why its OK for the Turkish to pirate games and not for Americans. Basically he says our economy is so big we can afford to pay, but they're to poor so it's perfectly fine for them to bootleg games, movies and cds. I tried to tell him that that just forces us to pay even more for stuff. I'm not sure if that's true or not but if it is, it pisses me off. Anyways, it's very strange, but in the end, he refuses to pay more than 5 dollars for a game.
Title: RE: Overall Sales
Post by: KDR_11k on January 14, 2004, 07:59:33 AM: In China or India competition with the pirates actually brought the prices down a lot. The record industry is facing this problem as well. As long as there is no competition in terms of pricing, prices will remain high. But rising prices combined with sinking quality makes many people question the value they get for their money. The record industry was forced to lower prices in order to make people buy more originals, maybe the games industry will be as well.
Title: RE:Overall Sales
Post by: nolimit19 on January 14, 2004, 11:18:18 AM: i think that as video games become more popular you will see the prices drop more.
Title: RE:Overall Sales
Post by: mouse_clicker on January 14, 2004, 11:36:39 AM: Quote
Basically he says our economy is so big we can afford to pay, but they're to poor so it's perfectly fine for them to bootleg games, movies and cds.

Poverty is never an excuse for pirating because games, movies, and CD's are purely for entertainment and not essential to anyone's life. If you steal bread for your family because you can't afford it, that's justifiable, but games, movies, and CD's are in no way necessary to our lives and hence thinking it's okay to steal them because otherwise you don't have enough money is just a desperate excuse so you won't feel bad.
Title: RE: Overall Sales
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 14, 2004, 11:43:56 AM: A brand new copy of Street Fighter II for SNES at launch was $80 in the U.S. at various retailers. I think I've seen the so called price drop.
Title: RE: Overall Sales
Post by: Ian Sane on January 14, 2004, 01:14:32 PM: "If you steal bread for your family because you can't afford it, that's justifiable"

Say you have a very large family.
And say you're family don't like bread. They like videogames.
And how about instead of giving them away you sold them at a price that was practically giving them away.
Would that be a crime?
Title: RE: Overall Sales
Post by: Mario on January 14, 2004, 02:43:39 PM: http://cube.ign.com/articles/463/463155p1.html

Nintendo GameCube sold 1.1 million consoles in December and it's total US sales are now up to 6.8 million.

"The last number I have is from September, which is about 10.5 million units."

+ 165,000 (September US sales)
+ 254,000 (October US sales)
+ 748,800 (November US sales)
+ 1,100,000 (December US sales)
+ 550,000 (my estimate of how many GameCubes have been sold in Japan since September)

= 13,317,800 Nintendo GameCube consoles sold worldwide. (not counting sales from Europe, Australia, and other regions that aren't the US or Japan - since September)

I would assume GameCube is around 14 million worldwide if you add the non-existant European numbers.
Title: RE:Overall Sales
Post by: nolimit19 on January 15, 2004, 07:35:16 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"If you steal bread for your family because you can't afford it, that's justifiable"

Say you have a very large family.
And say you're family don't like bread. They like videogames.
And how about instead of giving them away you sold them at a price that was practically giving them away.
Would that be a crime?

WHAHAHAHAHA
Title: RE:Overall Sales
Post by: Mario on January 15, 2004, 08:18:22 PM: Sony claim that the PS2 has sold 70 million consoles worldwide.