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Title: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Garnia on December 22, 2003, 01:27:22 AM
 Who else is highly anticipating this game? I can't wait any longer! Though the games I get for Christmas will hold me off I guess..... But anyways. Who else is craving to get this game!?    
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on December 22, 2003, 01:34:38 AM
Me! This is number one on my sexy 'most wanted games' list, the graphics look amazing, and i cant wait to see what they do with the gameplay. I love Resident Evil. I have high hopes for this game. I hope they dont rush it out, judging by the "200X" release date, it looks like Capcom are taking their time and they will release it when it's ready, which is good.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Garnia on December 22, 2003, 02:31:41 AM
 I'm hoping that Resident Evil 4 has lot's of extras and that will be very long. This game should be good! Theyve been working on it for a long time!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NarmaK on December 22, 2003, 06:34:24 AM
If they make the camera work then it could be a great game. If they dont, then itll just be another RE game.
I just hope they add something new and exciting. Maybe you beat the game then you get to play as a zombie. And you have to survive humans trying to hack you up with various melee weapons.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ghostVi on December 22, 2003, 06:52:09 AM
I think they have this in RE: Outbreak. Basically it's an online RE, with you becoming a zombie when you die. Sounds fun
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Doerr on December 22, 2003, 07:08:19 AM
Looks cool. It would be awesome if they would release the Boxset here.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: rpglover on December 22, 2003, 10:32:42 AM
"If they make the camera work then it could be a great game."

the camera from the videos i have seen on the game seems to be more like a cinema cam- sort of how eternal darkness was- the camera will pan out, zoom in and out- but i could be wrong- but i do know that the graphics are very very good looking- i cant wait for this game to come out
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on December 22, 2003, 01:59:50 PM
I kinda liked the fixed camera. They were set perfectly to frighten. We may lose that if it moves behind the character. I suppose they could find ways of making it just as scary though so either way I'm happy.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Grey Ninja on December 22, 2003, 02:29:29 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Berny
I kinda liked the fixed camera. They were set perfectly to frighten. We may lose that if it moves behind the character. I suppose they could find ways of making it just as scary though so either way I'm happy.


I bought Code Veronica the other day, and I was QUITE happy to see what a 3D Resident Evil looks like.  The camera moves on a rail, similarly to Eternal Darkness, but with the claustrophobic Resident Evil style to it.  I REALLY like the camera in the game, and I seriously hope that they don't change it in Resident Evil 4.


And hi guys.  I am indeed anticipating this game.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on December 22, 2003, 06:25:59 PM
I am absolutely dying to get this game.
I've been in love with Resident Evil for years now... and 4 looks really great.

The Graphics look stunning and Mr. Hook (That Electrical Looking Giant holding the Hook) looks really freaky, and looks like that he will be confronting you in numerous areas in the game.
Just like what they done with RE: 3 Nemesis.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 22, 2003, 06:30:41 PM
I'm just happy Leon is back in the game...

to the apparent paranormal turn this game is taking...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on December 22, 2003, 06:45:36 PM
I dont want Capcom to go toooo far with the paranormal activity... but the way it looks now is fine.
I like it how the area turns a blueish colour/color when Mr. Hook is around.

Maybe it has something to do with Leon being infected?
My guess is that he or someone close is going to die by the end of this game.
And Ada Wong will be returning from RE2.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on December 22, 2003, 07:16:16 PM
I HAD Resident Evil Cvx and played REmake ...which one will it compare to  ? I liked Code Veronica ...worth a purchase but didnt like the pacing or camera of REmake ...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on December 22, 2003, 07:24:49 PM
I see what you mean in a few ways... but it is the Fixed Camera Angles in all the other Resident Evil Games the made it scarier.

I recently done a survey, and the scariest was REmake, with the most least scariest being: Code Veronica (x)
That clearly says that Fixed Camera Angles are scarier... but with RE4 it looks like that the camera will be the 'rail' effect... but still looks just as scary as REmake.

Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: The Omen on December 27, 2003, 07:55:57 AM
I too think the fixed camera created more tension.  REmake was great for being scared because of what you cant see.  But RE4 looks so damn good, i just cant wait for it, no matter what the camera is like.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: savanna03 on December 27, 2003, 08:15:28 AM
you have no idea how much i cant wait for RESIDENT EVIL 4.  LEON KENNEDY is such a cool character to contol with just like back in RE2.  the graphics seems to be unbelievable and i cant wait to tear up that hook character upart.  OOOOOHHH YEEAAAAAAAAH.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Crash on December 27, 2003, 08:16:23 AM
Does anyone know if they fixed the control of this game? I was so pissed at RE-make and RE Zero at the STUPID control scheme.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 27, 2003, 08:20:25 AM
Crash: Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I belive the control scheme you used in REmake and RE:0 is the same control scheme in the original Resident Evil, Resident Evil 2, and Resident Evil 3- basically any Resident Evil with fixed camera angles.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: The Omen on December 27, 2003, 08:43:25 AM
Yep. they're basically the same with the exception of the 180 degree turn.  I dont know which game that started in.  As for RE4, i cant see how the copntrols would be the same, since its in full 3d.  I'm guessing it'll be like Devil may cry controls.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 27, 2003, 09:30:41 AM
Well, it's the fixed camera angles that made the control scheme like it is- clunky and unresponsive. If RE4 has fixed camera angles as well, I assume it would use the same control scheme- it doesn't necessarily have to have the prerendered backrounds. That said, I don't think RE4 does have fixed camera angles, so I think we'll be getting a working control scheme for once.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Don'tHate742 on December 27, 2003, 12:02:13 PM
i don't know why we can't get the analog joystick controls (360 degrees). Instead we have to get the 8 way nasty old controls, something used in capcoms first games (contra anyone?).....

After all this time, I think Capcom just makes the controls frustrating becuase....

A) they like to toy with us (i'll get you back...one way or another....bastards)
B) it would make the game too easy if they change it to an obviously better control setting. Something similar to the "you can only hold 8 items, including ammo....oh yeah health.....welll basically every other thing that is mandatory."
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: savanna03 on December 27, 2003, 01:07:11 PM
i played most of the RESIDENT EVIL games and the best control i ever used was the TYPE C in RE REMIX.  it was so simple because you just press the R TRIGGER to make the character move and you steer the character with either left or right.  i think it was the best control scheme for a RE game that is why i was so dissapointed with RE 0.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Don'tHate742 on December 27, 2003, 06:15:23 PM
so you would rather control the character like a race car?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: savanna03 on December 27, 2003, 06:32:53 PM
^^^^ no, but it is alot better than any control scheme that capcom put out in resident evil franchise...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Crash on December 28, 2003, 11:55:36 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Don'tHate742
so you would rather control the character like a race car?


No, I want the controls of Eternal Darkness.....in fact, I honestly feel that RE 5 should be MADE by SK. They've proven their skills with ED....

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 28, 2003, 12:21:43 PM
BUT I DON'T THINK SK CAN PRODUCE CHEEZY ACTING AS WELL AS CAPCOM.

A certain weight of cheeze is required for every RE title.

Get some hot Rebecca Chambers wallpaper at the RE-launched Japanese Biohazard website.  It may or may not involve playing their little flash game.

http://www.capcom.co.jp/bio_series
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on December 28, 2003, 01:08:19 PM
The only reason that the controlling for Fixed-Camera angles is sometimes a pain is because by the angle the screen is... you dont know if your walking straight, wonky or diagonal. It is like some sort of stupid Optical-Illusion. Especially with the REmake.

But with RE4, seeing that it now has the camera rail effect... I suppose the controlling will be alot more easier.

By the way... I am a huge Resident Evil Fan... and the day when Silicon Knights makes a Resident Evil Game is the day that I am going to shoot myself in the head.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Crash on December 28, 2003, 01:56:18 PM
Why??
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Crash on December 28, 2003, 02:00:37 PM
Why??
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Don'tHate742 on December 28, 2003, 09:57:32 PM
If it is like ED in the way of movement, then hell ya. Your right fixed angles mess you up, but they do add to the presentation. Especially when the camera is centered right in front of you and you walk towards it.....
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on December 28, 2003, 11:06:22 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Crash
Why??


Obvious Reasons.


1:
Resident Evil is a Suspense Horror... with Eternal Darkness being a psychological Horror. Psychological Horror mixed into Resident Evil will not work.
The story is all about Genetic Splicing, DNA Strains, Viral Weaponry and Evil Coporations that want their hands on the whole world... where as Eternal Darkness is not a Genetic Based Story... meaning that it has alot to do with ghosts, hallucinations and Evil 'things' from Hell or some other Evil Realm.

Imagine a Resident Evil game where the main is villain is an Emperor From Hell...
It easily would not work.


2:
Capcom are masters of making people crap themselves with the way that they position their cameras, surrounding equipment, ambient noises and sudden unexpected encounters.
Resident Evil's Example: Watch the FMV from the REmake when you encounter the first zombie.
Eternal Darkness' Example: Watch a low graphiced fantasy zombie walk onto the screen predictibly as if you have played the game a thousand times.

See what I mean?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Don'tHate742 on December 29, 2003, 06:47:10 AM
You can't compare them....

If SK did develope the next RE they wouldn't make it anything like ED, they'd make it like RE. Its not like they can only do psychological horror. If they gave a stab at the RE type of scary, I think they'd do pretty well. But why change something that works anyways....
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: FlameDangerJames on December 29, 2003, 12:21:55 PM
Like they say: Don't fix something that isn't broken.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: The Omen on December 29, 2003, 12:50:43 PM
Wait a minute, i was led to believe RE4 was in fact full 3d, like devil may cry.  Is it the camera on 'rails routine', or free roaming?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on December 29, 2003, 12:55:34 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Don'tHate742
You can't compare them....

If SK did develope the next RE they wouldn't make it anything like ED, they'd make it like RE. Its not like they can only do psychological horror. If they gave a stab at the RE type of scary, I think they'd do pretty well. But why change something that works anyways....




There is no reason for SK to do Resident Evil anyway.
Capcom have been doing it for years now... and they are the ones to know how to make it work.

If SK gets their hands on developing a Resident Evil game, then they would make it too paranormal-like.
The Grapical Content that Capcom include in the REmake is perfect. RE: 0 has even better graphics... and to see them lower to par with the graphics of Eternal Darkness would not be good at all.

It is the graphics and Sound Effects that make this game one of the scariest.



EDIT:
Don't know if there is confusion about the release date or anything... but it is offical that RE4 is released in 2004.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: FlameDangerJames on December 29, 2003, 01:01:14 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: The Omen
Wait a minute, i was led to believe RE4 was in fact full 3d, like devil may cry.  


Well if it was you wouldn't be scared.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: The Omen on December 29, 2003, 01:04:24 PM
But, which is it?  The camera isnt fixed anymore, but what exactly is it going to be?  Personally, i would love to keep the fixed camera angles.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 29, 2003, 02:10:37 PM
Quote

The Grapical Content that Capcom include in the REmake is perfect. RE: 0 has even better graphics... and to see them lower to par with the graphics of Eternal Darkness would not be good at all.


Need I remind you that both REmake and RE:0 featured extensive use of prerendered backrounds, which requires almost no power to produce? That's why the character models looked so incredible in both game, becase nearly all the polygons on screen were on the character models. What Silicon Knights did with Eternal Darkness was nothing short of incredible, and although I wouldn't say it looked better than REmake or RE:0, it certainly impressed me a lot more. Resident Evil 4, however, in my opinion blows all 3 games out of the water and it IS 100% realtime- no prerendered anything. That doesn't mean Silicon Knights couldn't do the same thing- Denis Dyack once said that he thought the graphics in Too Human looked as good as the FMV shots we've seen before, which is pretty damn impressive.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 29, 2003, 02:27:26 PM
Don't forget Eternal Darkness ran at 60fps while Resi4 is at 30fps.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 29, 2003, 02:39:18 PM
Resident Evil 4 is 30 fps? I don't soubt it, but where di you hear that, Professional?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on December 29, 2003, 03:14:12 PM
Don't get me wrong or anything. I am not a Graphic wh0re or somebody that is obsessed with pure graphics, but I do ask for them... because like I said earlier, it is the graphics that made the Resident Evil Saga scary.
The problem I had with SK's graphics in ED, is that the enemies looked like they were pulled out of a 60's low makeup horror show and thrown into the game with one specific colour scheme.

Like I have said thousands of times... Capcom KNOW how to scare people... as in reference to setting their camera angling, surroundings, background noise etc...

My problem is that if SK make an RE game... like a few people have said... they would not make it similar to ED... meaning that they are starting a totally knew kind of Horror Game that they have no experience in.
Capcom HAVE THAT Experience, and they know how to use that experience to create more stunning RE games.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 29, 2003, 03:16:13 PM
I completely understand that SK's style is different from Capcom's, at least in how they would approach a Resident Evil game, but I have complete and utter faith in their graphical abilities.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 29, 2003, 03:40:58 PM
I didn't "hear" it, I "reasoned" it.

Games that sport such complex modeling (character AND environmental) with a consistent framerate as shown in Resi4 simply haven't come in the 60fps flavor in this generation.

I also own P.N.03, Shinji Mikami's "other" game besides RE:Remake, and also looks like it's based on the Remake modeling engine, and what could be a premature/primitive version of Resi4's 3D engine.  Vanessa's character model is *nicely* detailed, and the walls/floors/rooms are given a generous amount of polygons to give them the round/smooth look.  Lighting is also good.  But, the game came out sooner than the other "Production Studio 4" games, had horrid enrivonment texturing, color palette, and no deflicker support (hence why i deem it "premature" -- a rush job?), but in the end ran at a rock solid 30fps.

Looking at the TGS2003 Resi4 trailer from Capcom of Japan's site, Leon's movements in the "non-blurry" portions of the film are consistent with the way characters moved in video I've captured from the Remake and Resi0, which are both running at 30fps.  Additionally, since Resi4's characters look comparable to those in the Remake, and the environments look more complex than those in Silent Hill 3 (also 30fps), "something's gotta give."
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 29, 2003, 03:42:44 PM
Like I said, I'm not doubting you (although Rebel Strike is able to pull off some incredible stuff at 60 fps), but I was just wondering if there was any more info about the game you weren't sharing.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 29, 2003, 03:55:15 PM
Indeed, Rebel Strike is able to do some wonderful things at 60fps, but really not as *often* as I'd like it to.  I think 1080*:Avalanche does a better job of fluidly jumping between framerates, though.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: rpglover on December 30, 2003, 11:59:07 AM
go to www.capcom.com  and hit the capcom japan link

once you get to the capcom japan site, scroll down to get to the resident evil japan web site
after it loads at the top right of the screen it says password
imput the word 'scott' for the password- and something should load- so the password is scott
discuss  

here is the web page itself if you dont want to go through capcom.com

http://www.capcom.co.jp/bio_series

click on the biohazard 4 link and then at the top right there should be a password box- and do the rest  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 30, 2003, 02:20:56 PM
Did you play through the little virus games there?  I thought that was pretty... neat.  Metroid Prime's US website was just rediculous, but I like this Biohazard site.  I played through the little game to find out 'scott' and I did it all by myself.  I am so proud.

The wallpapers with Becca in her shorts and Jill in her skirt were simply delicious, HAVEN'T THE REST OF YOU PEEPLE DOWNLOADED THEM YET!>

200X = 2004 now.


So does 20XX = 2044 in Mega Man years?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on December 30, 2003, 02:52:57 PM
There are five secret Wallpapers to get off the Biohazard Website in that Virus Game.
I have to say, even though Rebecca is annoying character in the game... she has a pretty cool wallpaper.

And the secret that Capcom has in the Biohazard 4 password section is just great... '2004'... LOL. I think we knew that from the start.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 30, 2003, 02:59:28 PM
Resident Evil really isn't a game that needs a full 60 FPS anyway...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 30, 2003, 07:42:33 PM
Yeah, 30fps does give a more "filmed/cinematic" look.  But 60fps is more lifelike to my eyes.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on December 30, 2003, 08:56:43 PM
In a few of the REmake's in-game cut-scenes there were areas where the Frame Rate did slow down a fair bit with pausing etc...
Especially near the end of the game when Wesker and Chris have that Kung-Foo battle.

But Resident Evil Zero had their frame rate going pretty well... but I still think that it was 30fps... but it could be 60.
RE: 0's cut-scenes were mostly FMV after FMV after FMV.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 30, 2003, 09:23:07 PM
There was no "Kung Fu" battle in the Remake.  Wesker talking to his Tyrant doesn't count.  The framerate was a solid 30fps in all in-game cutscenes and gameplay.  The stuttering/pausing that occurs during scene/angle changes wouldn't count to me as framerate drops cuz, well, nothing important is "really" moving -- when something's *paused* it's not playing/not moving.  It's like the scene stopped altogether for less than a split second.  They were loading stutters like the ones you sometimes see in Ocarina of Time.

Resi0 had a solid 30fps in gameplay and cutscenes.  But indeed FMV was more prevailant in Resi0 than the Remake.  But I like any in-game cutscene that gives me a closer look at Becca in her shorts, which were never available in default FMVs.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on December 30, 2003, 11:52:56 PM
I know what you mean by the angles changing rapidly so there is a drop in loading time... but there is a small kick and punch battle that Wesker has with Chris at the end of REmake... and the framerate does drop a bit... and it wasn't because of the camera angle changing.

It just depends what ending you take when they have the fight. You have to let Rebecca live in Chirs' account and then once you confront Wesker there is about a ten second... maybe 15 second fight they have.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 31, 2003, 02:06:10 AM
You know what, it has been a very, very long time since I've played through the end as Chris.

"You killed them with your own DIRTY HANDS!"
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 31, 2003, 02:39:39 AM
Now I know why I don't remember that fight.

I only played the ending where Rebecca is still alive (NO Kung Fu).  You however, are remembering the ending where Rebecca is already dead (yet for some reason you say one has to let Becca live in Chris' account) prior to the scene (YES Kung Fu).
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on December 31, 2003, 09:47:22 AM
Ah ok, I thought it was when Rebecca is dead.
I cant remember the other ending all that much, but I can remember Rebecca getting shot at one stage by Wesker.

Anyway, I think it is time that Capcom release another Trailer for RE4 and some more news... because I'm loosing interest in the E3 Trailer that I've watched about one thousand times.
As for the second playable character in RE4 apart from Leon, I think that it would be somebody new into the storyline... unless it plays out like RE: 3 Nemesis with just one character account but numerous swapping over... but I guess then that would have low replay value.

Oh, and to just clear up all the REmake Endings... here they all are:


---JILL'S ACCOUNT---
-Save Barry & Chris
-Kill Barry & Save Chris
-Save Barry & Kill Chris
-Kill Barry & Kill Chris

---CHRIS' ACCOUNT---
-Save Jill & Save Rebecca
-Kill Jill & Save Rebecca
-Save Jill & Kill Rebecca
-Kill Jill & Kill Rebecca
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 31, 2003, 10:08:11 AM
This is just fantasizing:

Put Rebecca into Resi4 as the other playable character.  I say this on the grounds that I like her shorts.

If we can't have Rebecca, we'll have the next best thing with Jill in her skirt.  Again, I too like Jill's skirt.

If not, get rid of Leon and put in Barry or Billy, cuz they both kick major ass.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 31, 2003, 10:14:16 AM
GOOD GOLLY HOW MUCH MORE CRAP FROM GAMEINFORMER MUST I ENDURE

Resident Evil 4 things reported by GI then re-reported by Nintendojo
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 31, 2003, 10:28:41 AM
Billy, why! Why! Why Game Informer!!!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on December 31, 2003, 10:51:23 AM
argh Game Informers dont know crap.
There is no possible way that Capcom is going to put RE4 on PS2 or X-Box.

There are rumours that we are going to hear what happened to Rebecca and Billy in RE4. Hopefully Rebecca is going to be mauled by a zombie or something.
Though she had the looks, I couldn't personally stand her performance.

Especially that *thumbs up* move she always does. I swear to god I hope somebody rips off that damn thumb and shove it up her a$$.
I didn't mind Billy, but he was just thrown in to have a second playable character. He should return in RE4 to be more adapted towards the story... though I cant see how he is going to be in Europe.

We will also hear more of Ada Wong, seeing that Wesker saved her from her fall in RE2.
Hopefully we will also hear of Nicholai.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 31, 2003, 11:34:11 AM
Rebecca > you

And what happened is pretty obvious...Rebecca reported that Billy died, while in actuality she let him go...Rebecca left the ending of RE0 to the Spencer Mansion where she was found by Chris...

Oh, and Ada didn't die from her fall because she's infected with the G-virus
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on December 31, 2003, 11:44:49 AM
Yeah but I meant is that we are going to hear of what happened to Rebecca after the Spencer Estate Incident, and hopefully hear about Billy after Rebecca says her goodbyes.

Oh, and with that Ada Wong thing... from what I know, Wesker saved her from the fall and it is her that later gives the Rocket Launcher to Leon in the Tyrant Battle.
I cant recall any diaries or notes that mentions that she is infected. But I may of missed it.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 31, 2003, 03:20:19 PM
Resident Evil 5.5X: Ada Wong's Super G-Virus-Mutated Zombie Fighter Revenge! -- it's RE meets Devil May Cry meets Spawn: Armageddon!

Anyway, I like how Becca was kinda "dumb."  That lucky moron Richard got to play "doctor-patient" with her a few times.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 31, 2003, 06:58:35 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Zero_Plague
I cant recall any diaries or notes that mentions that she is infected. But I may of missed it.
Recall that she was attacked by Birkin...She was infected then...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: StRaNgE on December 31, 2003, 07:41:04 PM
this game is my # 1 most wanted of 2004

i just got #3 and CV for xmas.

have finished all the others  besides those 2.

Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on December 31, 2003, 08:17:36 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Bill
Quote

Originally posted by: Zero_Plague
I cant recall any diaries or notes that mentions that she is infected. But I may of missed it.
Recall that she was attacked by Birkin...She was infected then...



Was this in Leon B? Because if it was then I havn't seen it.
I've only played through Claire A, Claire B and Leon A... but I have not completed Leon B.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: AlphaDragoon2002 on January 02, 2004, 01:40:25 PM
Apparently Game Informer is saying that RE4 is no longer exclusive to GC...but then again, it's Game Informer so I don't exactly take their word as "gospel"...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on January 02, 2004, 11:40:41 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: AlphaDragoon2002
Apparently Game Informer is saying that RE4 is no longer exclusive to GC...but then again, it's Game Informer so I don't exactly take their word as "gospel"...



Game Informer is just a poor group of people that make rumours to see if they spread so that they know or not if people actually read and look at their magazines.

There is no possible way that RE4 will be be ported or lowered in graphics to move over to the PS2.
And there is no possible way that a Resident Evil/Biohazard game will move onto X-Box unless Shinji Mikami is threatened.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 03, 2004, 12:36:49 AM
By golly, I believe your GI theory might be right!

I think it was last week that there were 100,000 GameCubes sold in Japan, and about 1000 Xbox units sold in the same time frame.  Would it make financial sense to release Resi4 on Xbox there?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on January 03, 2004, 12:59:01 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
By golly, I believe your GI theory might be right!

I think it was last week that there were 100,000 GameCubes sold in Japan, and about 1000 Xbox units sold in the same time frame.  Would it make financial sense to release Resi4 on Xbox there?


Trust me. There is no way that Resident Evil 4 is moving over to the X-Box as well.
Capcom would never do it.

They are Nintendo Lovers.
They just didn't have much of a go at the 64 because it was cartridge based games.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: AlphaDragoon2002 on January 03, 2004, 03:00:51 PM
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Originally posted by: Zero_Plague
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Originally posted by: AlphaDragoon2002
Apparently Game Informer is saying that RE4 is no longer exclusive to GC...but then again, it's Game Informer so I don't exactly take their word as "gospel"...



Game Informer is just a poor group of people that make rumours to see if they spread so that they know or not if people actually read and look at their magazines.

There is no possible way that RE4 will be be ported or lowered in graphics to move over to the PS2.
And there is no possible way that a Resident Evil/Biohazard game will move onto X-Box unless Shinji Mikami is threatened.


Yeah...I don't actually believe that garbage, I just wanted to report it.

Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on January 04, 2004, 12:39:35 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill
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Originally posted by: Zero_Plague
I cant recall any diaries or notes that mentions that she is infected. But I may of missed it.
Recall that she was attacked by Birkin...She was infected then...



Ada Wong was never Infected by William Birkin

BUT, there are theories on Wesker infecting her with the same Virus that he infected himself with after he saves her from her fall though that is only a theory.
But Ada was not infected by William Birkin.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on January 05, 2004, 03:37:36 PM
According to Game Front, its official that there will be more news on Biohazard 4/Resident Evil 4 on Gamer's Day at the end of January, and Capcom will also announce new game titles that they are working on.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on January 06, 2004, 08:32:49 AM
having only played the resident evil remake for gamecube, will i be totally lost in resident evil 4?  there seems to be a lot of back story that links the different games together, so i'm afraid i will miss many of the finer points in re4.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on January 06, 2004, 04:15:15 PM
Ha. The story had never even occured to me. I haven't even beaten the first one yet. Damn I have to catch up on the story. But the other ones cost so much! ARG!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on January 06, 2004, 04:51:24 PM
IGNCube has apparently talked to Capcom directly about this rumor that Resident Evil 4 is no logner exlusive and have confirmed the rumor is false- no need to worry if anyone was.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on January 07, 2004, 12:18:31 AM
If you havn't played the other Resident Evil Games, then it is likely that you wont know what the hell is going on in RE4, as it talks alot about multiple virus and all this scientific and technical talk that you wont know what it about if you havn't played the other ones.

With that in mind, you also have to ABSORB each diary note so carefully for it to stick into your mind.

Like the simplist diary note in REmake is one that is written by the Keeper as he slowly mutates into a zombie, eating his friends etc...
Now the first time I read this diary... I didn't think much of it... but when other people talk about it... there is so much information behind it.

It mostly explains the first few symptoms of the altered T-Virus and how long it takes for its host to fully react as a zombie.



But if you really want to know the story so far... it is best to read a Resident Evil Sypnosis that is usually in most FAQ & Walkthrough files.
It will give you the main plot of Resident Evil.

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: manunited4eva22 on January 07, 2004, 03:45:00 PM
I always wanted to know why they didn't leave the name of the game as Biohazard.  I mean come on now, which one makes sense and is actually cool, Biohazard or Resident Evil?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 07, 2004, 04:32:34 PM
Because there is/was some crappy heavy metal band with the same name...Lame copyright lawsuits...  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: JGarcia050 on January 12, 2004, 02:55:05 AM
How about this for the next RE game.......A FPS. So it can compete with Doom 3. I think this would be a great idea. What do you people think of this idea.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: CreedDBZ on January 12, 2004, 05:32:40 PM
Check out IGN.com.  Capcom has finally set a bit of a release date for RE4.  Its scheduled to drop in the winter of 2004.  So we are getting RE4 this year!!!  In their roundtable there is also some talk that we may see more of the game in some form by the end of this month.  Bring on the RE4 goodness!!!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on January 12, 2004, 10:33:47 PM
We've always known that its release was in 2004 from the Official Biohazard Website. It was just a matter of 'when'.
And we also found out that more of RE4 will be talked about at Gamers-Day... which is also where Capcom will announce other upcoming games.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Nintendo Gamecube on January 14, 2004, 11:00:16 AM
I hope there is a plethra videos for E3 this year.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on January 14, 2004, 03:56:57 PM
I hope it's actually playable at E3, so we can find out how the game controls and what the camera system is like.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 14, 2004, 05:24:40 PM
A new rumor says that control is now fully 3d...It makes sense really...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ResidentEvil on January 15, 2004, 06:29:38 AM
When they say "winter of 2004," does that mean early 2004 or late 2004?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 15, 2004, 06:44:05 AM
Late, of course...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Garnia on January 16, 2004, 09:19:13 AM
 I wish it wouuld come out early 2004! Why must Capcom torture me like this!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on January 16, 2004, 01:13:28 PM
That's part of the horror. Speaking of which, I just got a new key in REmake and I walked into a room with a zombie so a turn to shoot it and then HOLY CRAP I'm aiming at a mirror. Tricksy.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Garnia on January 17, 2004, 11:37:51 AM
Is that the room where you get the jewelery box thingy? I havent played Remake for like two months! I should start a new game on invisible enemy mode.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 17, 2004, 02:04:11 PM
No, that's the hallway where you pickup the Arrowhead.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Nintendo Gamecube on January 17, 2004, 04:04:02 PM
Psssh, the scene where the zombie is hanging off his neck is torturesome, specially when you don't know if it'll attack you or not, so you keep an eye on it at all times.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on January 17, 2004, 04:10:37 PM
There's a theory going around that your enemies in RE4 will be "Inanimate Objects". That would certainly be interesting, and opens up lots of possibilities. Imagine walking into a room and a doll holding a knife attacks you out of nowhere, or you're walking under a fan and it falls from the roof and BAM you're dead.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Nintendo Gamecube on January 17, 2004, 04:12:39 PM
They'd have to come up with some really confusing scientific theory to make that work in the game.

Remember, the game revolves around reality, we can't really have dolls running around killing people because that's just tooo unrealstic.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on January 17, 2004, 04:18:04 PM
Oh it can still be scientificly explained, objects are being possessed by the virus thats floating around (that cloud of fog that you see in the trailer perhaps?)

Maybe a virus floats around from one object to another, dead peoples corpses (zombies) would be one of them.

As for RE being realistic, well it's not neccessarily "realistic", it's just that everything has a scientific explaination.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 17, 2004, 05:48:14 PM
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Originally posted by: Mario
Oh it can still be scientificly explained, objects are being possessed by the virus thats floating around (that cloud of fog that you see in the trailer perhaps?)

That's what I was thinking...It would explain the creepy knife-wielding dolls and the growling deer head in the trailer, for sure...  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Garnia on January 18, 2004, 04:15:19 AM
Possesed dolls seems a little more magical than scientific. How could someone bring a nonliving object to life anyways Adleast zombies are from humans.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mjbd on January 18, 2004, 05:59:16 AM
I just went to IGN, and they have sales reccords of all RE games on GCN, and things look promising for RE4, sales I mean.  RE remake, and RE0 both sold about a million copies world wide, but the straight ports of RE2 and RE3 have only sold about 100k copies combined.  Considering the straight ports costed next to nothing to port, I would assume even those were profitable, selling for $40 each.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 18, 2004, 04:20:34 PM
Yeah, that would help Capcom pay for their employees who write the email newsletters.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Garnia on January 20, 2004, 12:36:56 AM
I think resident evil 2 and 3 should have both been on the same disk.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on February 06, 2004, 09:26:42 AM
a few new tidbits regarding re4.

this game is sounding cooler and cooler every time something new is leaked.  i'm definately looking forward to this game.  

"Firing your pistol in one area will cause Zombies in another area to be more attentive (They can hear now)."  very very cool.

"The blue shadow ghosts shown in the E3 build cannot be killed. They can interact with the environment and bring things in the environment to life. Everything will attack you."  even cooler.

"Leon S. Kennedy is the main character; however, four other heroes from past games will also emerge."  having only played the resident evil remake, i'm guessing i will need to play at least some of the other games in order to fully understand the storyline of re4.  can someone who has played all the games tell me which ones are most important to the overall storyline of the series?  i don't mind skipping re0 or code veronica if i wouldn't miss out on much.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 06, 2004, 09:45:48 AM
It's about time zombies relied on their senses...That's how they were supposed to act in the first place...

And I guessed the "possessive" nature of the virus back when the first trailer was released...Go me... ^_~

4 likely characters to play as...

Claire
Chris
Jill
****** MYSTERY!  (How about a bad guy? )
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Draygaia on February 06, 2004, 12:03:48 PM
Well if they stick with the old style of gameplay I hope the control would feel like FFVII-FFIX when you're not fighting.  Seriously they're similar and it gives RE an easier control.  I've been using the classic control a while but I was never truly into the control to feel good about it.  I was only good enough to stick with the game.  The C type control in REmake was fantastic though.  Too bad Zero didn't have it.

I also hope you can transform for a short while into a creature or play a creature.  You would control a tyrant, nemesis, etc and you would start taking out the Police team or go against your creator and your own brothers and sisters.  You also get multiple weapons that are used as references from horror movies.  Chainsaw(TCM), Masks(F13th/Halloween/TCM/Scream/etc), Machete(F13th), Glove(Nightmare), etc
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 06, 2004, 12:18:47 PM
"I also hope you can transform for a short while into a creature"

If you're infected, you're infected for good...This isn't the Hulk...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 06, 2004, 12:51:44 PM
This is for kingvudu.

Okay, just tried to write out this story... but it is kind of hard to do just to start from scratch.

I'm really tired now so I'll just quickly tell you about some information on a few of the many stories and characters in Resident Evil.


The truth behind the trouble:  The story of Dr. James Marcus

The Abandonned Training Facility.
The Spencer Estate.
The Explicit Express.

All located in the Arclay Forest... and all victims for an upcoming outbreak.
The Training Facility owned by the Umbrella Corporation is attacked by... leeches?
The Spencer Estate also owned by the Umbrella Corporation is once again attacked by... leeches.
The Explicit Express carrying Umbrella Staff.... and you guess it. Attacked by leeches.

But why is the locations being attacked all have to be owned by the Umbrella Corporation?
Why isn't the residents of Raccoon City being attacked?
Who is this man in the white robes ordering his millions of leeches through an opera like voice to attack people... all part of Umbrella?

Even the leeches form into a human like form of some sort of old man. What is happening? Why?
There must be a reason for this... and there is.

Here it is:


Years ago, Lord Ozwell Spencer (Founder of Umbrella) mentions to James Marcus (Director of Umbrella) that it would be great if he had him as the Director of his Corporation.
Marcus agrees, but can really care less about the corporation.

He is only interested in his own field of studies... especially his study with the Progenitor Virus (Also known as the Mother Virus) .
His research grows in the it's study... and soon enough... he uses Leech DNA and combines it with the Progenitor Virus.

Results are extraordinary, and he names his creation, the T-Virus (Short for Tyrant-Virus).
As his study in his new T-Virus grows rapidly, he is suddenly met by two men.

The sly and cunning Captain Albert Wesker & the scientific mastermind researcher, Dr. William Birkin.

James Marcus is suddenly assassinated under Wesker's orders, and Dr. William Birkin takes over Marcus' research of the T-Virus.
They dump his dead body in the sewers of the Training Facility... left only to rot while Dr. Birkin takes the lead of rsearching in the virus.

But during that time... Jame's leeches that were used in the creation of the T-Virus scatter lonely through out the Training Facility.
One of the leeches (The Mother) crawls through the sewers... and finds the dead body of James Marcus.

The leech crawls inside his opened mouth... and suddenly, Marcus' internal organs are re-animated by the T-Virus infected Leech.
Marcus is back... and he only has one thing on his mind... ...Revenge.

The white robed man is another identity of Director James Marcus... and the leeches were all ordered to attack locations owned by Umbrella, only for revenge.

If we skip forward through Resident Evil right to the end... I will just quickly tell you the demise of James Marcus.
James Marcus transforms from his ordinary form into the Leech Queen where you will fight him 2 times in the game.

The first time you fight him, he is still going through transformation... so you have it easy.
But the 2nd time you fight him is a tad-bit harder.

Rebecca Chambers (Medic of STARS Bravo Team) and Billy Coen (Escaped Convict) go up against the Leech Queen as the Self-Destruct timer counts down.
They both realise that as sunlight peeks through a crack, it burns the skin off the Leech Queen.

So Rebecca tries to open the large shutter on the ceiling so that sunlight can melt the Leech Queen to death. Billy distracts the Queen as Rebecca concentrates on pulling the shutter levers.
When the shutters are open, the Leech queen squeal in pain as the sunlight beams onto her... and there is only about a minute left until the place explodes.

But the Leech Queen does not take a hint... and still tries to kill Rebecca... and manages to trap her into a corner.
As Rebecca stumbles backwards, she lands on the floor, and notices a Magnum Revolver lying about a meter away from her.

The Leech Queen approaches, and Rebecca grabs the revolver and throws it up into the air as Billy catches it on the other side.

(This part is my favourite )

Going into slow-motion, Billy shoots the revolver, and the one bullet exits the gun barrel, and slams right into the Queen's throat, making blood splatter every where.
The force of the gunshot sends the Queen flying backwards.

The Facility starts to explode... and the Queen is pushed back into the elevator shaft where she continues to fall as fire rises up through the shaft.
She falls into the flames... and that is the end of Dr. James Marcus.




So hopefully this was a brief explanation of James Marcus... one of the many Resident Evil Character's.
You can probably see why I am too tired to write out the entire synopsis of all 10-12 games. This was only a Character Synopsis let alone the whole game.

But I'll do another character tomorrow or maybe a few hours later. Just have to rest my mind for now.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Gamebasher on February 07, 2004, 07:01:42 AM
Nomatter what people say about Resident Evil 4, one thing is for sure:

It´s going to sell bucketloads of NGC´s!!!

It is thefirst free-roaming RE game, and that means there is nothing like it out there when it hit´s the market as it is exclusive to the GameCube.

Just hope Nintendo will advertise that god damn game, because it is going to ROCK!

Remember thesense of awe we all felt when playing Mario 64 and Zelda 64, for the first time? Because, these games were the first 3D incarnations of the series! It´s going to be like that this time too.

That is why it will be a real killer....

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 07, 2004, 10:28:41 AM
So Code Veronica was only "halfway there"?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 07, 2004, 10:31:05 AM
Yeah, really...CV was the first "non-prerendered" title in the series...

RE4 could, however, be the first RE with full-direction movement(my made-up term for movement in the style of Mario 64, etc)...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 07, 2004, 12:13:25 PM
very nice made-up term!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 07, 2004, 12:41:32 PM
Yeah, hopefully the controlling in this game will be so much more free then it is in some previous RE games.

I'm also wondering if the controlling is going to be somewhat like Luigi's Mansion.

We see that in the 2nd Trailer for RE4, Leon walks forward, as his torch shines along the wall to the right of him.
Maybe the C-Stick controls one arm to move around as the Joystick actually moves Leon around.
It just reminds of Luigi's Mansion as Luigi walks around and the C-Stick moves his Vaccum around.

Anyway...

Even without new trailers coming up, this game is just becoming more interesting by the second.
I'm sure everybody has heard the old rumors of Mr. Hook (That ghost like creature) of posessing an object and using it to his advantage.

To me, that would sound extremely interesting, and hopefully it is true.
Seeing one of them dolls with the knives walk around the corner will really build up the scare factor.

But hopefully this game dosen't go on the paranormal side of things.
I just noticed it the other day, and I've mentioned it before, but at the 41 second mark in the 2nd Trailer, you can see a face take form in the blowing curtain.

It may just be coincidence, but it sure does look freaky.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on February 07, 2004, 01:11:38 PM
An interesting detail that i don't think has been mentioned:

- Zombies will not only see you but also hear and even smell you... if you take damage you bleed, and the more you're hurt the more you bleed, then the more they can smell (detect) you, and also hunt you down based on that scent unless you bandage yourself up.

Scariest game ever? Quite possibly. I'm a bit annoyed that it's coming to the US and Japan in 2004, and PAL regions have to wait until 2005, but i can wait.. i'm used to it.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 07, 2004, 01:54:12 PM
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Originally posted by: Mario
An interesting detail that i don't think has been mentioned:

- Zombies will not only see you but also hear and even smell you.



I've heard about that, and hopefully it is true.
That is probablly the main thing which is going to make this game really scary.
Zombies stalking you, but you've got no idea where the hell they are.

It looks as if Capcom has also added in Patrolling Zombies to walk around at free will, not only when they see you. It shows this in the trailer as the zombie walks past the window... and is then nowhere to be seen.
I might be importing Biohazard 4 over from Japan, and then I'll just wait to buy Resident Evil 4 when it is released down here.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 07, 2004, 02:52:45 PM
As I've shown before, watch the only scene with a zombie...The zombie materializes out of nowhere, plus you notice a nice little reaction from Leon as well...Definitely more "paranormal"(in a more biological sense than spiritual) than the other entries of the series...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Metroid masked on February 07, 2004, 06:04:18 PM
this game looks awesome i hope theres more exclusive RE titles coming to the cube, That reindeer and hook guy look freaky.... i shivering right now
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 07, 2004, 06:51:33 PM
Whats that?

This game better not be on the paranormal side of spirituality.
The only thing I can guess is that Leon is hallucinating when he gets bitten too much to see all this wierd stuff.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 07, 2004, 06:56:38 PM
I'm assuming that's the face in the drapes, right?  I'm guessing that this mother virus has something of an intelligence...

As I said, I'm sure the game will stick on the biological sense of things...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Armed on February 07, 2004, 06:59:34 PM
Yup sounds cool im buying it
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on February 07, 2004, 07:07:01 PM
"The owner of this file has exceeded their daily usage limit."
Image not working :\

Hallucination would be interesting, like when you lose too much "blood" you go all dizzy and wierd things happen, but that would kind of be pretty similar to the sanity effects in Eternal Darkness.. depending on how it's pulled off of course. *shrugs shoulders*

Maybe the whole game is just a dream? And when Leon wakes up he finds a book explaining everything, in his pocket, and it wasn't there before the dream. OMG.

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Yup sounds cool im buying it

sales +1
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 07, 2004, 07:19:47 PM
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Originally posted by: Mario
"The owner of this file has exceeded their daily usage limit."
Image not working :\


Yeah, that usually happens with my account.

But I guess that you can just check it out on the trailer anyway. It's on the 41 second mark and it's when the curtain starts to blow.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Metroid masked on February 07, 2004, 09:48:28 PM
isnt resi evil weird enough already (zombies, freaky hook dudes, zombie dogs , etc.) i think there should be a effect where when you see something really scary your character will started panicking and if you get too spooked you will die of a heart attack now theres a concept that works.Never Happening
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 07, 2004, 10:27:40 PM
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Originally posted by: Metroid masked
isnt resi evil weird enough already (zombies, freaky hook dudes, zombie dogs , etc.)


These all relate to Biological Affairs (Genetics, viral research etc...) and are all to do with a matter of  simply taking reality and altering it a little by giving Earth's scientists a huge update in Scientific Research.

That is the kind of stuff that Resident Evil is made up of.

But what I'm concerned about is that it looks like RE4 is going into the Supernatural & Paranormal areas (ghosts, spirits, hallucinations etc...) which is referred to as Psychological Horror.

Resident Evil is not meant to be Psychological Horror.
We leave that kind of stuff for Silent Hill etc....
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on February 07, 2004, 10:47:43 PM
If some of the enemies are ghosts/spirits, then how would you kill them? Would gun bullets hurt them or go right through them?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 08, 2004, 01:00:16 AM
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Originally posted by: Mario
If some of the enemies are ghosts/spirits, then how would you kill them? Would gun bullets hurt them or go right through them?


I'd presume that your bullets would just shoot through them seeing that Mr. Hook seems not to even jolt at a bullet striking him.
But hopefully there are no ghosts in Resident Evil 4.

I can handle (and like the idea) of the Virus posessing objects (dolls etc...) to attack you... but having spirits and ghosts in this game would totally ruin Resident Evil's atmosphere in my opinion.

I don't think Capcom would put in that sort of style into it though.
Hopefully that curtain is just all coincidence... but then again... I don't know what to think of that severed deer's head.
At first I thought that it's just another object posessed by the virus... but that dosen't explain all the blood around it.

I'm praying Capcom don't do anything too stupid.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Nimbus on February 08, 2004, 01:38:41 AM
My take on the ghost:
I think that Leon will get infected and slowly turn psychotic (like most infected creature do).  See it as ED sanity meter.
Maybe (but I don't hope so...) the game is based on goals and time.  Like find this before you'll become crazy...  A kind of chemicals that slow the disease.
The only thing I really hope is that there will be a lot of NPC.  I love NPC in Resident Evil.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: jime on February 08, 2004, 03:18:39 AM
This is probably a really dumb question but does RE zero come before the first ive never really played either.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on February 08, 2004, 07:43:04 AM
Yes, Resident Evil 0 is a prequel to Resident Evil 1.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 08, 2004, 10:08:28 AM
In order, the first few games of the series plays out like this:

-Resident Evil Zero
-Resident Evil
-Resident Evil 3 (1st Half)
-Resident Evil 2
-Resident Evil 3 (2nd Half)
-Resident Evil 4

It's debatable if Code Veronica is part of the actuall series... but usually I count it in seeing that it has so much vital information for you to know.
People say Capcom just named it that to save the number '4' for their future Resident Evil game, because in Japan, 4 isan unlucky number.... so I'm guessing that a character of high importance (A non-evil character) is going to die.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: savanna03 on February 08, 2004, 10:13:07 AM
the more i read about RESIDENT EVIL 4, the more im more excited about this game.  it looks like RE4 is now my anticipated game for 2004...

dang you NINTENDO, im going broke for 2004 thanks to:  METAL GEAR SOLID:  THE TWIN SNAKES, SPLINTER CELL:  PANDORA'S TOMORROW, RESIDENT EVIL 4, METROID PRIME 2, WIND WAKER 2, TALES OF SYMPHONIA and BATEN KAITOS.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on February 08, 2004, 10:14:45 AM
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the game is based on goals and time.

I certainly hope not. In RE i like to take my time, walk slowly, explore every inch of every room and just take in the atmosphere. Timed RE? No thanks.
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it looks like RE4 is now my anticipated game for 2004...

Mine too.. except replace 2004 with ever
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: The Omen on February 08, 2004, 10:38:25 AM
Is anyone else getting the impression RE4 will go up against Halo 2?  I'm telling you, this game will sell 1 million units in 2 weeks[US].  You heard it here first.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on February 08, 2004, 12:29:36 PM
Do you really think it will? I'm kinda worried about this game's sales. I for sure will be buying it, but I just hope every other Gamecube owner will do the same.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on February 08, 2004, 02:58:25 PM
You know.. i'm not sure RE4 will be an instant success, sure the game may be incredibly awesome, but it's still Resident Evil 4, "the fourth game in the Resident Evil series". It might come out and people will think "oh, look. another resident evil game. heh". Time will tell though, and we will have to wait and see how it's marketed etc, before we can make even slightly accurate predictions on how it will sell.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: The Omen on February 08, 2004, 03:01:55 PM
I just feel the buzz for RE4.  And from all console owners too, not just GC.  Lets hope they dont pull a 'also for PS2' trick.  That would absolutely kill sales.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 08, 2004, 06:30:16 PM
Resident Evil 4 wont be timed, that's for sure.
With the amount of detail Capcom are putting into this game, I don't think that they'll just want you to run past it all and not admire the scenery.

And the sales for this game?
I think that they are going to skyrocket.

This is like no other Resident Evil game.
Capcom have been working on this for years, and it is easily probablly one of the biggest (If not, the BIGGEST) Resident Evil game in the saga.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Metroid masked on February 08, 2004, 06:46:13 PM
i hope that RE4 dosent get released on ps2 like killer 7 will be. that would suck.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on February 08, 2004, 07:01:47 PM
No, i highly doubt RE4 will ever come out on PS2, Capcom continually say "no" to questions about that (while they just didn't comment on Killer 7 at all), plus i'm not sure the PS2 could handle RE4 graphically (tee hee). Nintendo won't be letting this one slip by, plus don't Capcom and Nintendo have a contract that says RE4 must be exclusive to GCN or something? Killer 7 going to PS2 is insignificant, get over it.

RE4 will not get released on PS2.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 08, 2004, 08:50:23 PM
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RE4 will not get released on PS2.


That is 100% correct.
There is no chance in Hell that RE4 is going to convert to PS2... and like you said, the PS2 graphics won't be able to hold it up... and this far into development, Capcom arn't going to go back and lower the graphics so that the PS2 can be capable of supporting it.

Besides, Capcom do have that contract with Nintendo of exclusivity of the Resident Evil series.
But I know someone is going to say "Then why is RE2 and RE3 ported over from the Sony?"
We are actually lucky to have them 2 games onto the GCN. Nintendo probablly wern't going to put it on at all onto the GCN... and that would mean that I'd never of become a Resident Evil Fan!!!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 09, 2004, 12:45:13 AM
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Originally posted by: Mario
You know.. i'm not sure RE4 will be an instant success, sure the game may be incredibly awesome, but it's still Resident Evil 4, "the fourth game in the Resident Evil series". It might come out and people will think "oh, look. another resident evil game. heh".

Just like people go, "Oh look, another Final Fantasy game..."?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on February 09, 2004, 12:54:10 AM
The difference is if every FFX owner bought FFXI, and every RE0 owner bought RE4, FFXI would sell five times as much as RE4. Does FFXI appeal to gamers who have never played an FF game before? Not really, just by the name i am immediately not interested in it. Like RE4, it's going to be hard to convince people to buy it if their mindset is that RE is crap.

Bleh, it's just different okay, don't compare RE with FF.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 09, 2004, 01:10:40 AM
Then use a different argument then, because it sounded to me that you were implying people won't buy RE4 because it's the 4th in the series, yet people still buy FF, Madden, and Tony Hawk games...You might as well argue that people are stupid, because that just may be the case...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on February 09, 2004, 01:20:59 AM
If RE4 sells exactly the same as RE0, it will be a bomb. If FFXI sells exactly the same as FFX, it will be a huge success. I'm saying people who don't usually buy RE games might not buy RE4, RE4 has to appeal to more than just the RE fanbase to be a huge mainstream hit, FF has a loyal fanbase of millions that will buy every FF game regardless. Bleh, i'm going to sleep.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 09, 2004, 01:28:30 AM
Therefore, things must be compensated by distributing metric buttloads of ass-kicking DVD-quality trailer footage long before the game is released via demo disc, internet, tv, DVD preview, theater, etc.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Nimbus on February 09, 2004, 04:06:14 AM
I beleive this title could sell well only because of all the hypes going on.  Look, for most of us this game is already sold.  And even if it get below average rating I will buy it just for the sake of continuity.
And I really hope they will launch the game in the US at the same time as in Japan.  I fear that import will kill the US sale a bit.
(load your gun)
As much as I love the RE series, I would like it to end soon...  Maybe after the RE 5.  You see, I don't want it to become like Final Fantasy (that series left a bad taste in my mouth).  While I was a FF freak in the snes era, I can't care less about CC.    Or if it does not end soon, it must at least take another direction and in this case, there are chances (50/50) that Capcom fall flat on their face (ala DMC II).  
For comparison sake: I'm really happy that Resurection is the last Alien.  Even if it is better on the techno side, this movie don't really stand well compared to the previous one.  See my point?  Better techno != better games.
They should use RE 4 to prepare us for RE 5.  Use it to tie half of the loose ends and finish a lot of character's story by either make them die, retire or settle for good with Umbrella.  Then in the RE 5, just tie all the remaining loose ends in a 5 cd saga (5 characters), give us a really good ending with lots of extra (like a multimedia series encyclopedia) and finish it for good.  ( I beleive that RE5 would be an awesome launch game for the N5 :-) ).

After... well, they can always start from scratch a new story with others characters, go online or hell, even remake BIO 2 and 3.  
Anyone think that the series must come to an end before fading away?


   
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on February 09, 2004, 07:31:56 AM
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Originally posted by: Mario
If some of the enemies are ghosts/spirits, then how would you kill them? Would gun bullets hurt them or go right through them?
vacuum cleaner.  duh.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 09, 2004, 07:33:58 AM
Hahaha!  That would be awesome... Luigi's Mansion: RE-style
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: StRaNgE on February 09, 2004, 09:27:24 AM
The last Aliens?  I guess you have not seen Alien VS. Predator previews that is due out this summer???

looks as if it has much potential ...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Nimbus on February 09, 2004, 10:00:26 AM
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Originally posted by: StRaNgE
The last Aliens?  I guess you have not seen Alien VS. Predator previews that is due out this summer???

looks as if it has much potential ...


No I haven't.  Do Ripley's in this one?  I heard so many times that she refused to take the role back.  Alien VS Predator...  Hummm....  Maybe.  Then it's like what I was saying: take another road.  RE should do the same.  End it with Umbrella and get something fresh like that.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 09, 2004, 10:09:34 AM
Ugh, I was interested in the the AvP movie until I saw that Paul Anderson is directing...Why him!?  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 09, 2004, 10:19:21 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill
Ugh, I was interesting the the AvP movie until I saw that Paul Anderson is directing...Why him!?


I don't really want to change the subject of this subject... but I have to agree with you on that... *Glares at Paul Anderson*.

Anyway,
I dont believe that the Resident Evil series is going to finish straight away.

At the end of Resident Evil: Outbreak, we see an organization (Umbrella? HCF? Government?) create some sort of observation tower in the ruins of Raccoon City.
I can't remember what they exactly say, but all that popped into my mind when I saw it was 'Noah's Ark' because they say something about brining in another two test subjects.

I'm guessing another Breeding Ground or something that could lead to a whole new Resident Evil saga.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Nimbus on February 09, 2004, 10:30:21 AM
Ok,that's what I had in mind...  Something new like HFC.  It would even allow to put more emphasis on Wesker.  I'm tired a little bit about Umbrella.  All of their luxury mansion, research lab, train etc...  always explode.  They might be on the very edge of bankrupcy.  And HFC can bring a lot of new characters and great plot twist.
Now their lead researcher's gone, Wesker gone, no more Raccoon city, No more Antartic research base, no more Alexia...   Is there sill an Umbrella?  By the way, where is the action situated in RE4?  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: SLIVER on February 09, 2004, 01:08:38 PM

quote:
            "Therefore, things must be compensated by distributing metric buttloads of ass-kicking DVD-quality trailer footage long before the game is released via demo disc, internet, tv, DVD preview, theater, etc."

As long as they advertise it like viewtiful joe i would buy it, even if i did't know about it!!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on February 09, 2004, 04:50:22 PM
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And I really hope they will launch the game in the US at the same time as in Japan. I fear that import will kill the US sale a bit.

Yeah, i was really sad when i found out that US and Japan were getting it in 2004, while PAL regions have to wait until 2005, this might be the first title i import, depending on it's release. I'd guess that Japan and US versions would launch at around the same time though, just a hunch.
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I'm guessing another Breeding Ground or something that could lead to a whole new Resident Evil saga.

But this time around.. it's on a boat, set in the ocean!!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 09, 2004, 04:53:04 PM
*looks over at Resident Evil Gaiden*

What the heck?

*sees Resident Evil Dead Aim, as well*

Resident Evil on boats is 0/2...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 09, 2004, 05:09:19 PM
Resident Evil... IN SPACE.

Just like Jason, Leprechaun, and Hellraiser... it's bound to happen sooner or later.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on February 09, 2004, 05:15:06 PM
Hahaha, Resident Evil in space would be rad. Hey look, there's a zombie a few miles away, better hide behind this rock! Oh ho ho, the suspense.
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Therefore, things must be compensated by distributing metric buttloads of ass-kicking DVD-quality trailer footage long before the game is released via demo disc, internet, tv, DVD preview, theater, etc.

Yes, that would be nice. RE4 should be pimped hardcaw during RE2 the movie screenings, assuming they both come out at the same time, which they are (i think?).

I'm guessing that in order to understand and appreciate RE4 fully, i'm going to have to play RE2 and 3. Hopefully i can get my hands on them.. sometime in the next year. Having not played them makes me sad.

My frothing demand for Resident Evil 4 increases...  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ShadowMage on February 09, 2004, 05:15:44 PM
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Just like Jason, Leprechaun, and Hellraiser



Don't foget Critters  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 09, 2004, 06:12:26 PM
Thanks for adding that!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Metroid masked on February 09, 2004, 06:17:49 PM
Do you think this will be the scariest of all the RE games? dont pee your pants! points finger
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ShadowMage on February 09, 2004, 06:41:28 PM
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Do you think this will be the scariest of all the RE games?


I really hope so.  The REmake had a few jumpy parts, and RE0 had even less.  Neither of the two could hold a candle to Silent Hill 3 though.  I still have nightmares to this day....*shudders*
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Metroid masked on February 09, 2004, 06:45:38 PM
the monsters in silent hill 3 are 10 times more scary than RE zombies.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 09, 2004, 07:58:41 PM
ED scared me the most.  Unsettling atmospheres bother me far more than surprises.  And this was even after I played the RE remake.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 09, 2004, 08:01:01 PM
It just depends what kind of person you are.

To be honest, personally Silent Hill, Eternal Darkness & Clocktower don't even make me flinch.
It's an enjoyable game and all.... but I don't feel that Psychological Horror really makes me get scared.

But anyway, to get back onto the subject, in Resident Evil 4, I'm hoping that we see the return of Wesker and possibly Ada.
But if there should be a villain that is going to die in this game... hopefully it will be Ada.

I personally don't think that Wesker is ready to die.
He has built up too much of a villainous matter, and once you see him go, then there will be no physical Resident Evil villain... Unless they create a new one which I'm not really hoping for.

But if the series does start coming to an end... I'd like the villainy character to die off like such:

Resident Evil 4:  Ada Wong / Hunk?
Resident Evil 5:  Nicholai Ginovaef
Resident Evil 6:  Albert Wesker / Umbrella (NOT Ozwell Spencer)
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Metroid masked on February 09, 2004, 08:49:38 PM
i find Psychological Horror really scary.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on February 10, 2004, 02:28:32 AM
Eternal Darkness scared you through a creep atmosphere. Resident Evil scares you through jumpy moments (and wondering when those jumpy moments are going to happen next). Just different styles. Personally, I get scared a LOT more by Resident Evil, but that may also be because any surprise or loud noise scares the hell out of me.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: StRaNgE on February 10, 2004, 07:12:15 AM
speaking of Re-make....

it scared me most due to atmosphere, the house, the fog, the soundtrack..

then again i grew up  being brought as a child to a small country house where my grandparents lived, and us kids would all tell horror stories of zombies, dracular, and creatures out in the woods waiting in the quiet. so this  series is very much along that, specially that journey past the pool and down the path. looked right out of the land we used to go to way back when...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Galford on February 10, 2004, 08:15:04 AM
I haven't seen it talked about here yet, but Capacom is seriously hitting at a Dawn/Day of the Dead type scenairo for RE4.  It was mentioned when the first trailer came out that the game was set in a post-apocalyptic setting.  Now with the new update to the website it is officially being mentioned that that society has broken down or is on the verge of collapse.

Also about all the weird characters(Mr.Hook, Reindeer Head, FAce in Curtain), play RE0, that properties of the Progentior Virus will explain why those things are there.

 
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: rpglover on February 10, 2004, 10:36:48 AM
according to www.gamecubeheaven.tk  gameinformer is the magazine that has the full scoop on resident evil 4
cant wait to read about it!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Inkwell on February 10, 2004, 10:52:57 AM
Where can I view pics or movies of this game?  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 10, 2004, 08:04:34 PM
www.gametrailers.com

You can download both, the Teaser Trailer and the 2nd Trailer off this website... and as for the pictures... there all mostly off the trailers, except for the concept art "Theatre".
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on February 12, 2004, 04:22:01 AM
direct from cube.ign's mailbag:
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When will you tell us about resident evil 4?! I can't wait forever!

Matt responds: You won't have to. Game Informer Magazine has the world exclusive on the game and will blow it out in the next couple of weeks. We're under embargo until mid-March, at which point we will provide our own coverage of the pants-wettingly amazing survival horror sequel -- a title that now ties Metroid Prime 2 as my most wanted game this year. Stay tuned for that.
 we should have new informtion very shortyly.  anyone here get game informer?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 12, 2004, 07:14:23 AM
My subscription just ran out a few months ago...Bah!  Now I have to stop by Funcoland next weekend...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on February 12, 2004, 09:11:06 AM
I don't but I'm heading to Barnes and Noble this weekend to check this out.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 12, 2004, 09:58:41 AM
Actually, the issue doesn't hit for 13 more days...So I guess it's 2 weekends from now I'll be able to get it...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Inkwell on February 12, 2004, 10:54:17 AM
All I can say is...WOW! I haven't bothered to actually keep up with this game but after seeing it I probably get the game (most likely not because video games in general sorta bore me)
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 12, 2004, 11:52:56 AM
OK, I'm getting mixed signals here...Some say that this was confirmed by GI, others say no...Please take this with a grain of salt until I can figure out if this has really been confirmed...Prepare to be surprised...

1. They game can be played in first person or one of two new views. They are basically slight variations on a close third person camera.
2. It must be viewed in widescreen. If your tv doesn't support the 16:9 aspect ratio, the game will feature black bars on top and bottom of the screen to make sure you experience the game to its fullest on a 4:3 monitor. HDTV users, the game supports 480 progressive scan. This is needed because,...
3. In 3rd person, Leon fills the far left side of the screen. It feels like you are playing a first person shooter even withour Leon on the screen.
4. Controls are them same as before. However, health and ammo will now be onscreen.
5. Even with the old controls, the new views make it feel like an entirely different game.

Now for story:

1. RE4 takes place in 2004, 6 years after RE2.
2. Umbrella is gone and with them...the zombies.
3. Leon is hired by the president to guard his daughter. Before he can take the job, she is kidnapped and taken to a village in south america where all the villagers hunt him down in an eerie trance.
4. The worlds are completely wide open.
5. No more door animations or pre-rendered cutscenes. Everything is done in-engine.
6. Areas feature a few very brief loadtimes.
7. Enemies will react to damage done to them in places. Shooting an enemy in the foot will make them hobble.
8. Villagers are armed with sickles, axes, pitchforks, and many more sharp objects.Which they can throw at you. These are not mindless zombies.
9. You can shoot the thrown objects out of the air. If you time it right.
10. There is an action button. For instance, you can shoot an enemy and then quickly close the gap and kick them in the chest. Also to move objects in front of doors to keep villagers from you. Also to puch a ladder full of enemies off from you and more.
11. In a later level, you are in complete darkness and unable to see anything until the moonlight illuminates the villagers.
12. The villagers are smart. In later levels they get smarter. For instance, if you shoot at one, it won't continue to go towards you. It may run away and if you follow him, it could purposefully lead you to an area where 6 more await with bow guns. They are more human.

In the levels the play, the action was intense with many villagers after them. This was just the beginning of the game.

There are plenty of photos and the game looks amazing. They say it is easily the best looking cube game yet.


Very strange stuff indeed...

edit:  It's true, though I believe Capcom is holding back on something...Unless they completely got rid of Mr. Hook...

"He is telling the truth. The information he presented indicated to me that he has seen the magazine." ~~GI Paul (on someone who had supposedly seen the magazine)
"Once you see the pictures, you'll understand. It's going to be a monster game." ~~GI Andy  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: CaseyRyback on February 12, 2004, 12:39:26 PM
that is just awesome although I hope they do a MGS with the perspective and jus allow FP for shooting
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Nimbus on February 12, 2004, 01:40:46 PM
Honestly I cannot beleive such a thing.  If it's true then Capcom are the biggest moron of all time for throwing us a game like that.  I, for one, would not buy that thing...  No Umbrella, no zombies, crappy south american villager...  Is it about Turok you're speaking.

Nah....  Nothing of that is true.  Sound too much stupid.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 12, 2004, 01:43:31 PM
Yes it is...Game Informer confirmed it...How about you wait and see what it's like before criticizing it, k?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Ian Sane on February 12, 2004, 01:52:09 PM
From a storyline perspective I hope there's a better connection to the rest of the games beyond the main character.  Being hunted by supernatural spooky creatures is the whole appeal.  No zombies at all would pretty much kill the game's appeal regardless of how good it is.  If there's no zombies then Capcom shouldn't call this game "Resident Evil".
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: jaz013 on February 12, 2004, 01:56:12 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill

4. Controls are them same as before. However, health and ammo will now be onscreen.
5. Even with the old controls, the new views make it feel like an entirely different game.




(So i won't ruin the surprise). Now I can see the reviews at IGN and GS: The game it's good-looking but the controls ruin it....calification: 75.

Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 12, 2004, 02:02:23 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
From a storyline perspective I hope there's a better connection to the rest of the games beyond the main character.  Being hunted by supernatural spooky creatures is the whole appeal.  No zombies at all would pretty much kill the game's appeal regardless of how good it is.  If there's no zombies then Capcom shouldn't call this game "Resident Evil".

As I said, I believe Capcom hasn't shown all their cards yet...I still think the villagers have been recently infected with the mother virus...(or perhaps a whole new strain)
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Nimbus on February 12, 2004, 02:02:57 PM
Comon folks!  Game Informer confimed this junk?  Hell, it isn't beleivable.  Do you think they would blow their exclusive coverage just like that, for a kid on a forum???  

This make absolutely NO SENSE at all!  I'm not criticizing it...  It is just not beleivable.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 12, 2004, 02:19:37 PM
Read it and weep, my friend...

Pay close attention to the name of the person who says it's true...*hint: It's a GI staffer*
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Nimbus on February 12, 2004, 03:44:02 PM
Okok excuse me you're maybe right.
Just this story...  so much unlike RE....
I just hope this is not true..
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 12, 2004, 03:50:42 PM
Yeah, it does sound strange, but I guarantee there will be more to the story...I just hope we don't have to wait till E3 to hear about it...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: CaseyRyback on February 12, 2004, 04:16:00 PM
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Originally posted by: jaz013
Quote

Originally posted by: Bill

4. Controls are them same as before. However, health and ammo will now be onscreen.
5. Even with the old controls, the new views make it feel like an entirely different game.




(So i won't ruin the surprise). Now I can see the reviews at IGN and GS: The game it's good-looking but the controls ruin it....calification: 75.


REmake got an 8.9 though and RE0 got an 8.0 from GS

Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Nimbus on February 12, 2004, 04:30:27 PM
I have seen the mag pics on another forum and now I'm a beleiver.  They looked kinda blurry but damn cool!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: CaseyRyback on February 12, 2004, 04:37:41 PM
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Originally posted by: Nimbus
I have seen the mag pics on another forum and now I'm a beleiver.  They looked kinda blurry but damn cool!


i saw them too and they were amazing
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 12, 2004, 04:45:25 PM
*oop, nevermind...*
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: rpglover on February 12, 2004, 04:48:27 PM
this game is going to kick major major major ass
it is now my top anticipated game for 2004- this game cannot come out fast enough!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Shift Key on February 12, 2004, 05:40:04 PM
What I want to know is where those scenes inside the "Umbrella Corporation" are now, because those spoilers couldn't be more different to what I was expecting. Not that I'm not hyped, its just a different kind of hype.

Anyway, I look forward to seeing more from this game.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 12, 2004, 06:36:44 PM
Delicious.

Should I be enjoying the fact that GI's exclusive isn't so exclusive anymore?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Ian Sane on February 12, 2004, 07:35:30 PM
I take back my initial concern.  After seeing those pics I can safely say that this remains true to the RE style.  Those villagers technically don't look like zombies but they're mindless killers nonetheless.  The survival focused style seems to remain intact.  It reminds me of an episode of the New Adventures of Jonny Quest where Jonny was in a villlage where the whole population was under mind control and at one point they were all trying to kill him.  Freaky sh!t.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ShutEye on February 12, 2004, 07:42:38 PM
Unbelievable. Never thought I'd see graphics like that on the Cube. Hope the frame rate is good. Unbelievable.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 12, 2004, 08:03:36 PM
Although Shinji is risking the greatness of Resident Evil 4 by completely changing it around... personally, I reckon that this is going to be pretty interesting.

My only downside is that the ogre creature that looks like it was ripped out of The Lord of Rings: Fellowship of the Ring seems to be a B.O.W!
Hopefully Capcom arn't going to throw in creatures from Fantasy movies.

I also thought it would of been better if the enemies were only limited.
Having all these chainsaw, pitchfork and scythe wielding enemies might ruin the scare factor of the game.
It sure will get your heart pumping when they are chasing you... but having them everywhere won't really make you jolt.

However, I cannot make comments as if I have played the game.
Hopefully Capcom will also give out a suspense game... but I just thought that Capcom did take it a little too over the top for Resident Evil 4.

Where is the quiet surroundings that give you shivers down your spine as your walking through the corridor.
That's what the 2nd trailer shows us... but by looking at these pictures... we arn't going to get them quiet moments.

So to end this reply.... I have to say that I'm pretty excited about this game... but also pretty mad about the sudden change it has taken.
My ending statement:

-This is Resident Evil 4. Not the Texas Chainsaw Massacre!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on February 12, 2004, 09:32:49 PM
Wow... oh my god... those pictures look incredible.

Judging by those screenshots, you won't really be able to see what's behind you, which adds to the fear factor, which is awesome.

That huge boss thingy looks awesome, it's actually really scary looking. In fact everything looks scary as hell. Wow. The graphics are amazing, everything is just... awesome. I'm speechless.

Zero Plague, i'm sure there will be quiet moments, this game seems to have everything.

Now we need videos!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Metroid masked on February 12, 2004, 10:02:27 PM
those pics look awesome the graphics are the best ive seen on cube yet!! i cant wait for this game!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 12, 2004, 10:23:13 PM
Leon's jacket is slightly different (less fur rendering?) probably because it might not be so cold in South America than a rainy mansion.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on February 12, 2004, 10:25:44 PM
Maybe it's a different jacket? In the picture where he's in the water, he's wearing a wetsuit type thingy. Maybe you can change clothes?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Shift Key on February 13, 2004, 12:17:15 AM
Zero: Don't have a cliche fit. Even GI haven't seen all this game - this is likely to be only one part of the game, which they have stated already.

Mario: Watch out for the "What Not to Wear - When Surviving Angry Villagers and monsters" episode. Should be a hit hrhrhrhr!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 13, 2004, 01:03:34 AM
What did I say?  I told you Capcom wouldn't let us down...

This is going to be one hell of a ride...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: nitsu niflheim on February 13, 2004, 05:33:31 AM
I truely hope all that information isn't right.  I don't mind all the other stuff, but if the game doesn't get rid of the old crappy control a mack truck control scheme I will not be as enthusiastic about buying this game as I was before.  I don't care about zombie maybe not being in the game.  But after so much complaints being filed against the same control scheme you'd think that Capcom wouldn't make the same mistake they did with RE remake and RE0.  I mean Konami gave the choice between 3D and 2D controls in Silent Hill 2 and again in Silent Hill 3.  If anything, give us a choice.  I love RE, but I f**king hate the controls.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Ian Sane on February 13, 2004, 06:12:08 AM
"I truely hope all that information isn't right. I don't mind all the other stuff, but if the game doesn't get rid of the old crappy control a mack truck control scheme I will not be as enthusiastic about buying this game as I was before."

Isn't the view always over Leon's shoulder in this game though?  Therefore the RE controls will work fine.  It will be just like an FPS.  Having to use up to go forward works fine when forward is always in front of your character.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: CaseyRyback on February 13, 2004, 06:25:19 AM
Personally I like the controls. I personally have never had all that much trouble with them. Then again I own every Resident Evil game
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bloodworth on February 13, 2004, 06:28:39 AM
Just so everyone knows, we're not even allowed to let you post links to screens until this stuff is released officially.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ghostVi on February 13, 2004, 06:48:37 AM
Regarding the control scheme... to quote a post from another forum : "do you know what RE controls are like from a non fixed camera angle.. metroid prime".
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ghostVi on February 13, 2004, 07:15:38 AM
Wow, 10x Bloodworth, I was just about to do that...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: kovu_br on February 13, 2004, 07:50:22 AM
The game looks great and apparently they finally put the tank controls in a viewpoint that works, but I'm not too keen on the new storyline.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Inkwell on February 13, 2004, 08:58:56 AM
I just got the book today. Very interesting read from what I gathered the GI guys really like the control. They said even though it felt the same but not as clumsy as the past installment.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ShutEye on February 13, 2004, 02:41:33 PM
Did they say anything about a run button in regards to the controls? I hate RUN buttons. The analogue stick was specifically invented to avoid the run button. RE0 had fully analogue controls for the side-kick, but the main character needed a run button. Stupid fk&#@%^ing run buttons.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 13, 2004, 07:11:56 PM
Now, if only they'd take out Leon and put in someone cool like Barry or Billy or Becca.

Barry can take on those nutty villagers, even the chainsaw guy, with his bare fists.  Oh yes, rock on Master of Unlocking.

the holy word of unlocking
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Nimbus on February 14, 2004, 02:59:53 AM
Leon is perfectly up to the task, Professional 666.  He's even one of the most beleivable characters in the series.
I waited so long for his return.  I'll admit that Barry would be cool too but Billy???  He was just an excuse for the zapping system.  I would be happy to see him as a decapitated NPC.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 14, 2004, 07:12:24 AM
Barry or Billy better than Leon!?  Pah!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Rich on February 14, 2004, 07:49:53 AM
Regarding the controls, I think they will be fine. I got my Game Informer yesterday  and  the writer seems to really like it. The story sounds like it could go anywhere from what we know of it. We know that the presidents daughter was kidnapped and taken to a some small village. Well maybe the kidnapper was infected by one of umbrellas viriuses and when Leon catches up with him he saves the presidents daughter but the kidnapper runs back to theUmbrella mansion.

There are so many ways this story can go that, at this time, there is no way that we can determine if there are no zombies.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bishman on February 14, 2004, 08:11:41 AM
RE4 has a good chance of getting GOTY.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on February 14, 2004, 09:28:07 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Bishman
RE4 has a good chance of getting GOTY.


Are you serious ? You didnt hear ? ...it already one GOTY !!!!

Sorry ..I am soooo bored. This game has alot of openings and many ways the game can go. ...I just hope it wont rely on the other RE storywise because I never played them.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on February 14, 2004, 09:34:43 AM
Wow. I just saw the pictures, and it's quite a........... change. I find it kind of odd that Capcom completely threw out the old scenario- the trailer had a lot of very spooky scenes I was anticipating. I trust Capcom, but from the look of it now they're going for more of an action game, which doesn't ring Resident Evil in my head. I'll wait until E3 to make any more of a judgement, though.

Also, Zero_Plague has as much right to disapprove of the game as everyone else does praising it.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 14, 2004, 11:01:32 AM
Since I'm not truly a RE fan, I'll say that I have little care for the "silly" scenarios that happened after (not before) the "Mansion Incident" but Resi4's early gameplay and atmosphere tidbits are quite appealing to me.  With or without John Connor, I mean Leon.

And here's a reason why Barry's more qualified than Leon for the lead role:
I'VE GOT THIS!

Stop taking me so seriously, unless I have something that resembles factual information.
The REAL Mansion Incident - Resident Jigalo (MATURE AUDIENCES ONLY)
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 14, 2004, 12:34:22 PM
Okay, okay.
After some serious thinking, I've had a little change on my opinion.

Afterall, Capcom arn't that stupid to drastically change all of the Resident Evil storyline.
I think that Game Informer were a little too quick to jump to the conclusion of saying that there arn't any zombies or there is no more Umbrella Corporation.

Capcom might just be taking a different approach to an outbreak?
In Resident Evil 2 and Resident Evil 3, Raccoon City is already infected with the T-Virus, and most of them infected residents have already transformed into their zombie stage.

I was thinking, maybe in RE4, we actually play through the first section of the game as the virus spreads... therefore the residents are not zombies yet... but they are going through the first symptoms.
So if we all remember in Resident Evil 1, if you read the Keepers diary it shows how he slowly transforms into a zombie.
That's what I was thinking with these villagers. Maybe they to are also slowly transforming into zombies.

Anyway,
I seem to be over my stress.

Like I said before... I can't really judge this game by a few pictures which may only be showing 20 minutes of the game.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: CaseyRyback on February 14, 2004, 01:20:35 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Zero_Plague
Okay, okay.
After some serious thinking, I've had a little change on my opinion.

Afterall, Capcom arn't that stupid to drastically change all of the Resident Evil storyline.
I think that Game Informer were a little too quick to jump to the conclusion of saying that there arn't any zombies or there is no more Umbrella Corporation.

Capcom might just be taking a different approach to an outbreak?
In Resident Evil 2 and Resident Evil 3, Raccoon City is already infected with the T-Virus, and most of them infected residents have already transformed into their zombie stage.

I was thinking, maybe in RE4, we actually play through the first section of the game as the virus spreads... therefore the residents are not zombies yet... but they are going through the first symptoms.
So if we all remember in Resident Evil 1, if you read the Keepers diary it shows how he slowly transforms into a zombie.
That's what I was thinking with these villagers. Maybe they to are also slowly transforming into zombies.

Anyway,
I seem to be over my stress.

Like I said before... I can't really judge this game by a few pictures which may only be showing 20 minutes of the game.


I am sure Capcom previewed the article to make sure people are not misled

Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on February 14, 2004, 01:35:41 PM
Quote

I am sure Capcom previewed the article to make sure people are not misled.


I doubt Capcom had anything to do with the article- the whole issue with Nikkei and their report on Nintendo should show that the media rarely checks their accuracy before going to press.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 14, 2004, 04:10:05 PM
That would be very, very cool if the villagers progressively showed signs of contamination...

And I'm sure Capcom didn't throw out the parts from the trailer...It's just probably later on in the game...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on February 14, 2004, 04:52:12 PM
No Bill its true ...the restarted the game , they didnt like the direction and all scenes from previous trailers have been CANNED .
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 14, 2004, 04:57:17 PM
What!?  It doesn't say that in my GI mag!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on February 14, 2004, 05:05:50 PM
That's what I've read on just about every website talking about Resident Evil 4, namely MagicBox.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 14, 2004, 05:24:32 PM
In my opinion, I reckon they are jumping to conclusions way to early.

We don't really know what to expect, but I'm going with Bill on this one.
I am just going to think that they are later on in the game.

I'm sure Capcom would of never scrapped the whole thing.
They wouldn't want another imitation of Resident Evil 1.5 happening all over again.
Capcom arn't stupid, and they wouldn't get rid of zombies, the Umbrella Corportation or what we saw in the previous trailers.
Just because we didn't see any of that in the new screenshots, it dosen't mean that it's not going to be in the game.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: CreedDBZ on February 14, 2004, 07:38:53 PM
Yeah, dont count out the trailers just yet.  Remember back when they were showing off RE0 all we got was the train setting.  In the end that was about 20% of the game.  I think its coming later on.  Umbrella will show up in some form.  At the end of the day it is stamped with the Resident Evil name.  No Umbrella just doesnt make sense.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on February 14, 2004, 07:41:27 PM
No, no- this isn't speculation. Some places are reporting that Capcom themselves have said they threw out what we saw in the trailers and started over from scratch.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on February 14, 2004, 08:15:00 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: mouse_clicker
No, no- this isn't speculation. Some places are reporting that Capcom themselves have said they threw out what we saw in the trailers and started over from scratch.


He aint lying ...its true ..oh its damn true.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: savanna03 on February 14, 2004, 08:15:25 PM
yo know what... im gonna hold on to my jugdement before i know more about the game... ppl seems to be complaining already when we dont know more... just relax for now
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Rich on February 14, 2004, 08:17:55 PM
I have a hard time believing that man. Though I can see throwing out full stage zombies for partial ones but if there is no umbrella then how are all these people so sick. I seriously doubt that Capcom would give us a reason besides umbrella.

Guys, we have seen way to little of this game to make accurate assumptions and it seems that some of you guys are taking all this speculation as fact. we don't know if there will be a spooky mansion part of the game, or if zombies have been completely thrown out. so just remember that this is all just speculation.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on February 14, 2004, 08:47:25 PM
No, it's not speculation- I'M not the one fabricating this. Reportedly Capcom themselves said they threw out what you saw in the trailer. That's straight from the horse's mouth, I'm not making it up. It's very possible it's not true, but I doubt it.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 14, 2004, 09:06:35 PM
It dosen't make sense.

There has to be some information of Umbrella in this game... even if it only means them being mentioned in a diary note or something.
I won't believe that there is No Umbrella.

I guess the only solution we are going to find to end this is the game itself.

But in my opinion...

-There will be zombies
-There will be the return of the Umbrella Corporation

In Resident Evil: Dead Aim, the year is 2002... and I find it hard to believe that Umbrella has just mysteriously vanished or arn't going to be heard of at all.
They didn't even have a proper demise, which means Umbrella is still alive.
Not to mention that Lord Spencer is still alive and mysterious... and we haven't even seen him yet.

Umbrella will be in Resident Evil 4... and I know I'm safe to say that I can bet all my money on it.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Deguello on February 14, 2004, 09:46:24 PM
What if... *looks around* those villagers are, like, normal people... and LEON is the Zombie.  SHOCK AWE. j/k.

And about the trailer, who knows?  Maybe it's later in the game, because all of the screens I have seen on the intern...  I mean all the screens I found in my snappy new copy of Game Informer™©® have been during the daytime, and the trailers are at night.  3 discs eh?  Noon, dusk, midnight, maybe?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on February 14, 2004, 09:54:04 PM
I honestly wonder what they're going to fill 3 discs with- they don't have prerendered backrounds anymore, and as good as the game looks in game there's no need for FMV cutscenes.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 14, 2004, 10:16:08 PM
I've got a feeling that Capcom are going to pack this game with loads of FMV's.
It's either that... or this game is going to be really long.

I was hoping that maybe we could also get a Bonus Disc including Resident Evil 1.5 ... but right now, I highly doubt that that will happen.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on February 14, 2004, 10:40:27 PM
Personally, i wouldn't mind a free bonus disk with RE2, RE3, and RE:CV on it. But eh, as if that will happen.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Termin8Anakin on February 15, 2004, 03:38:36 AM
Dude, fine then.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 15, 2004, 05:27:20 AM
Actually, it says in GI that FMV has been completely dropped...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on February 15, 2004, 07:45:53 AM
How on earth can they fill 3 game discs with pure gameplay then? That's some 4.5GB uncompressed!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on February 15, 2004, 08:56:22 AM
I am guessing there will be a book or something put into one of the disks for the people like me who havent played re 1 2 3 .
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 15, 2004, 10:08:56 AM
New rumors at REhorror.com

-These villagers are infected with an entire new form of the virus. They are in the first process of turning into a zombie.(A given, imo ~Bill)
-Later on, you WILL find the real "dead" zombies.(Did you think Capcom really had the nerve to completely get rid of them? ~Bill)
-Also, you will find out that Umbrella is far away from being dead. (Dun dun dun! ~Bill)
-The game is longer than any other previous RE title. (It's 3 disc long with no FMV...Hope this answers your question, MC... ^_^ ~Bill)
-Leon will meet Claire later in the game. (Yay! ~Bill)
-a new trailer will be shown at Capcom's official page in the next weeks ( Please! ~Bill)


Watch Capcom's site be blasted...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 15, 2004, 10:12:33 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: akdaman1
I am guessing there will be a book or something put into one of the disks for the people like me who havent played re 1 2 3 .


If you want to know the main story, then you can check the synopsis of all the games on http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/gamecube/file/biohazard.txt .

When you get into the Walkthrough/FAQ, just hit Ctrl+F and type in "bhspa" and it should eventually lead you down to the synopsis of the games starting with Resident Evil Zero and ending on Resident Evil: Code Veronica X.
It may take a while to read, but it will just give you the main background and story on the games.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Termin8Anakin on February 15, 2004, 10:14:08 AM
This game is gonna be cool.
Another thing that seems to have been revealed is the storyline of the game:

Leon is now a US Government Agent, assigned to protect the President's daughter in South America - hence all the jungles and small villages.

I reckon the village, like the mansion, is a frontal disguise for Umbrella corp's HQ, probably underground or something.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on February 15, 2004, 10:38:03 AM
But how can they fill up 3 discs with pure gameplay?!?!? That has to be easily 200+ hours of gameplay!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 15, 2004, 10:58:15 AM
Where was it said that the 3rd disc is going to be completely filled?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on February 15, 2004, 11:01:08 AM
Even 2 full discs of pure gameplay is an incredible amount of playtime. They have to be filling the discs with something else entirely
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Nimbus on February 15, 2004, 02:19:22 PM
Just wanted to know where the 3-CD thing come from.  Is it something official from the horse mouth or just speculations?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 15, 2004, 02:23:32 PM
It was confirmed long ago back when the game was first revealed...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Nimbus on February 15, 2004, 03:05:33 PM
Oh!  Thanks.  And now, is it true that the FMV we were shown is no longer part of the game?  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on February 15, 2004, 03:11:49 PM
It's been reported that what was shown earlier has been scrapped- we're not entirely sure, but I'd bet on it.

Also, it wasn't FMV- what you see in the early trailers was actual gameplay. It just looks that good.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 15, 2004, 03:14:00 PM
That's what the GI article seems to imply...If you make such a beautiful in-game engine, why bother with FMV?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Metroid masked on February 15, 2004, 06:03:07 PM
the game will probably be 3 discs, 1 cube disc can hold up to about 1.9 gig of data...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on February 15, 2004, 06:06:40 PM
Actually, with the proper compression, I think a Gamecube disc can hold up to 3 gigabytes of data.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 15, 2004, 07:39:47 PM
I reckon that the storyline about the President's daughter is a little too fruity.
As long as the Umbrella Corporation and it's research is in this game... then I'm happy.

But seeing that there is that large orge type creature as a boss in the game as well as the amphibious creature that we see Leon fighting, I doubt that we arn't going to be hearing of Umbrella.
Where there is a monster... there is a virus. And where there is a virus... there is Umbrella.

I'm also looking foward to this chainsaw wielding enemy that according to Game Informer, we see numerous times in the game.
I can't wait to get a weapon and absolutely slaughter that cow in the barn!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ThePerm on February 15, 2004, 07:58:24 PM
the game has really detailed textures it seems....textures = space
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bloodworth on February 15, 2004, 11:13:22 PM
Another reminder that you are not to post any links to screens or text of the Game Informer article since SOME PEOPLE seem to not be paying attention.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on February 16, 2004, 12:18:13 PM
Can someone please recap what's happened in this thread since Feb. 12 when this all seems to have started. There was something about new "OMG!" quality pictures and villagers and I just wanna know what's going on!!! I'm heading over to IGN to find some pictures of all this new stuff. SO EXCITING!!!

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 16, 2004, 03:38:37 PM
The fact the screens came off GI makes them less sexy.  I can't even take the article info too seriously either.  Visitors like Zero Plague and the gang at reH seem much more reliable.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Rich on February 16, 2004, 05:06:58 PM
Yeah I'm a bit skeptical about the some of the stuff GI has said, espesially about the zombies.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on February 16, 2004, 05:10:43 PM
Berny, did you even read what Bloodworth said right above you?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Termin8Anakin on February 16, 2004, 10:19:17 PM
it wasn't just the link issue, it was the fact that it was a link to scans/photos of the GI mag itself, and you could actually read it without having to buy the mag.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Shift Key on February 17, 2004, 09:25:53 PM
It's kinda sad that GI gets reamed because some idiot decided to screw them over.

As for the news that GI does have, its not really that much. It's basically a write-up of the mission that they and other mags were shown and played through. I think there is definitely more to the story than what we've seen and heard (most of it is speculation), and I'll think twice when more "exclusives" come out because I still want to be surprised when I play it...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: nas2344 on February 18, 2004, 09:44:56 AM
this game gonna be nutz!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Termin8Anakin on February 18, 2004, 11:42:32 AM
Your avatar's a tad big there, Nas
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mjbd on February 18, 2004, 04:47:30 PM
I just got my issue of Game Informer today, and was thrilled to read the articles about RE4 and Killer 7.  After reading abour RE4 and looking at the pictures, this game is my most wanted game of the year, unless the Wind Waker sequel comes out this year.  The enviorments look so detailed and open.  The bad guys dont have to jump out at you to scare you, when they are 20 deep, thats scary stuff.  If this game runs at a constant 30fps, it will be bar far the most technically advanced game on Gamecube.  This game is gonna sell millions.  From the looks of things, in terms of visuals, RE4 looks every bit as good as the remake and RE0.  The new camera view should be interesting to, and always in wide screen.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: CaseyRyback on February 19, 2004, 02:37:15 PM
I got my mag today too. I am glad that the god of resident evil is back to make sure we do not end up with another Reasident Evil 0, and love the way that Killer 7 seems to be coming along.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on February 19, 2004, 06:20:29 PM
Can someone tell us about what GI said about Killer 7 ?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bloodworth on February 19, 2004, 06:34:52 PM
Not in the RE4 discussion, and the same rules apply for not printing screens or quotes.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on February 20, 2004, 09:46:37 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Bloodworth
Not in the RE4 discussion, and the same rules apply for not printing screens or quotes.


Oh yeah I know , I mean in a new thread
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on February 20, 2004, 02:34:18 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: mouse_clicker
Berny, did you even read what Bloodworth said right above you?


Ooopsie. My bad. Apparently I missed that. Seems to be gone now. Sorry about that.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on February 20, 2004, 02:53:33 PM
I just borrowed REmake in hope that my thoughts on the RE series will change. And so far its doing a pretty darn good job of it. I just hate the crimson heads ...I just wanna slaughter that cow in the barn.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 20, 2004, 02:56:58 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: akdaman1
I just wanna slaughter that cow in the barn.


I've heard that quote being used somewhere before...

Now I'm suspicious...  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 20, 2004, 03:03:14 PM
*calls PETA on akdaman*
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: CaseyRyback on February 20, 2004, 04:26:14 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: akdaman1
I just borrowed REmake in hope that my thoughts on the RE series will change. And so far its doing a pretty darn good job of it. I just hate the crimson heads ...I just wanna slaughter that cow in the barn.


the Crimsons make the game more fun though.  Also I share your desire to hurt he cow.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on February 20, 2004, 04:42:48 PM
What cow?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 20, 2004, 04:47:34 PM
There's a cow in one of the pics in GI...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 20, 2004, 07:07:32 PM
Even Game Informer stated that they threw a grenade in the barn, only to watch the cow blow up into pieces.

When there are heaps of villagers, farm animals and civilians... it means only one thing... Massacre!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 20, 2004, 07:30:24 PM
What a waste of hamburgers.  Shame on you, Leon!

This is why we need Barry.  He'd rip the cow apart with his bare hands and eat it raw.  He'll rip the villagers apart with his bare hands and eat them raw too.  Then the other villager will run away, and the game's objective will become Barry's "manhunt" cuz he's hungry and mean.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: CaseyRyback on February 20, 2004, 08:06:59 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
What a waste of hamburgers.  Shame on you, Leon!

This is why we need Barry.  He'd rip the cow apart with his bare hands and eat it raw.  He'll rip the villagers apart with his bare hands and eat them raw too.  Then the other villager will run away, and the game's objective will become Barry's "manhunt" cuz he's hungry and mean.



he could rip the cow apart and sleep in it for warmth, then come out to hunt!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on February 21, 2004, 09:17:37 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
What a waste of hamburgers.  Shame on you, Leon!

This is why we need Barry.  He'd rip the cow apart with his bare hands and eat it raw.  He'll rip the villagers apart with his bare hands and eat them raw too.  Then the other villager will run away, and the game's objective will become Barry's "manhunt" cuz he's hungry and mean.


( Professional 666 is now head of Rockstar )
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on February 21, 2004, 09:18:50 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
What a waste of hamburgers.  Shame on you, Leon!

This is why we need Barry.  He'd rip the cow apart with his bare hands and eat it raw.  He'll rip the villagers apart with his bare hands and eat them raw too.  Then the other villager will run away, and the game's objective will become Barry's "manhunt" cuz he's hungry and mean.


( Professional 666 is now head of Rockstar - They are now in devolpment of Manhunt 2 , where the objective is to see who is the fastest to rip a cow apart with there bear hands. There is plenty of blood. )
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 21, 2004, 09:53:31 AM
DUDE, if I was head of Rockstar, Manhunt 2 would be on Nintendo!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on February 21, 2004, 02:31:00 PM
Actually, wouldn't you be getting sued or something?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on February 21, 2004, 05:55:44 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: CaseyRyback
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
What a waste of hamburgers.  Shame on you, Leon!

This is why we need Barry.  He'd rip the cow apart with his bare hands and eat it raw.  He'll rip the villagers apart with his bare hands and eat them raw too.  Then the other villager will run away, and the game's objective will become Barry's "manhunt" cuz he's hungry and mean.



he could rip the cow apart and sleep in it for warmth, then come out to hunt!


Heh, sound's like an episode of Family Guy, Where Stewie and Brian where out in the dessert and their
camel dies, and it was going to get dark and cold, so they where gonna cut it open and sleep in it for
warmth.

Heh that was funny.

Leon didn't waste hamburgers, he wanted it to go

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on February 22, 2004, 07:38:46 AM
acutally, sounds like the beginning of the empire strikes back.  i certainly hope you were kidding, mystic.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on February 22, 2004, 08:45:47 AM
Just to let ya all know , so far in REmake , the scariest part has been Lisa Trevors hut. GOD I pooped my pants.

P.S - Although I really want to get into the RE series , I dont have the money to buy RE 2 , 3 , CVX. I can borrow 0. What I am trying to say is that when I go to play RE4 then I will feel like I have missed out on plenty of plot. Anyway , would it be alright if I make a SEPERATE topic where all the Veteran RE fans explain the game to NOOBs of the series like me ?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Nimbus on February 22, 2004, 11:23:25 AM
My best advice is to go to gamefaqs and read the multitude of Faqs written on teh subject.  Or go to fan site.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ib2kool4u912 on February 22, 2004, 02:18:16 PM
No Kingvudu, he's not. That episode was the first thing that popped into my head when i read that. I think its called road to Europe and its in season 3. Not that im obsessed or anything
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on February 22, 2004, 07:54:58 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Nimbus
My best advice is to go to gamefaqs and read the multitude of Faqs written on teh subject.  Or go to fan site.


I have read as much as I can but it doesnt feel the same. I have started to go to a site called rehorror.com to learn about the game ...but I am having trouble acessing the forums. ( The site is working fine for Every1 else )
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 22, 2004, 09:35:53 PM
Within two weeks akdaman1, I can have Chris's account recorded onto tape as well as all the vital diaries and cut-scenes from RE2/RE3 and RE:CV:X.
You said that you were going to go through Resident Evil Zero with me, so I'll either talk you through that or just also record it for you.

I'll have all the tapes within two weeks with most of the storyline on them.
I'll hand them over to you at school.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on February 23, 2004, 09:24:32 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: ib2kool4u912
No Kingvudu, he's not. That episode was the first thing that popped into my head when i read that. I think its called road to Europe and its in season 3. Not that im obsessed or anything
i'm fully aware of the episode.  but considering it was a take-off on empire strikes back, i think any and all future parodies would still be take-offs of empire.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ShutEye on February 23, 2004, 10:27:32 AM
There is a faq/plot synopsis by CVXFreak at gamefaqs that should help anyone confused with the plot, or wanting to know more.

Try renting the games too. all 3 titles you mentioned can be completed in a weekend or two by average RE players.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on February 23, 2004, 11:10:54 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: ShutEye
There is a faq/plot synopsis by CVXFreak at gamefaqs that should help anyone confused with the plot, or wanting to know more.

Try renting the games too. all 3 titles you mentioned can be completed in a weekend or two by average RE players.


Nah I tryed finding RE 2 , 3 and CX but my store doesnt have it. The only person I know with the games are my cousins but I am on bad terms with them now.

P.S- Dont worry Ben bout recording everything...I will find a way to play em all.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on February 23, 2004, 11:27:28 AM
akdaman1 - i actually had the exact same problem you had.  i simply don't have time to go back and play re2, re3, re:cv and re0.

i highly recommend the plot analysis faq on gamefaqs.com that is written by twilde and president evil.  a link to the main re faq page is here.  scroll down to "plot analysis" in the in-depth faqs section.  it's long (the text document is almost half a meg), but i found it extremely useful.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on February 23, 2004, 11:38:52 AM
Actually we can't really say that, as there's no way to say that it's paroding off Empire strikes back movie, as I don't remember Luke cutting a camel open to keep warm at night.

( it's been yrs since I've seen it )

Family Guy rules!!!


Can't wait for RE4, I wonder what new creatures there will be.

Maybe we'll see Wesker.

But will Leon still be infected by a virus?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on February 23, 2004, 11:46:53 AM
luke cut open the belly of a dying tauntaun and crawled inside to stay warm.  sounds pretty similar, eh?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on February 23, 2004, 11:51:14 AM
Yes, but it can be coincidence. As there's no way of pointing out that's where they got it from. Many people in the dessert could of done this, way before Luke was a thought

So Luke might be ripping of people living in dead animals
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 23, 2004, 11:56:34 AM
Star Wars took place in the past, so he most likely did it before people on Earth did it...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: CaseyRyback on February 23, 2004, 01:31:17 PM
Family Guy takes things from everywhere and makes fun of them
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on February 23, 2004, 02:03:09 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: kingvudu
akdaman1 - i actually had the exact same problem you had.  i simply don't have time to go back and play re2, re3, re:cv and re0.

i highly recommend the plot analysis faq on gamefaqs.com that is written by twilde and president evil.  a link to the main re faq page is here.  scroll down to "plot analysis" in the in-depth faqs section.  it's long (the text document is almost half a meg), but i found it extremely useful.


Okay I am about to start reading this thing , DAMN !!! its huge , thank god I am an extremly good reader.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on February 23, 2004, 06:37:41 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Bill
Star Wars took place in the past, so he most likely did it before people on Earth did it...


lol does that include incest?

( wonder's about  George Lucas's Mind at times )

Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on February 23, 2004, 07:49:20 PM
Hey I am back and my head hurts because I have so much NEW info in my head ... ask me any questions to check my intellegence of the RE universe ...I am now an RE geek.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 23, 2004, 08:14:19 PM
Okay, I'll give you a few questions. But a few may be trick questions, so just keep your eye out.

Question One:

-George Trevor mentions that he was told that Jessica and Lisa Trevor visited his hospitilized Aunty on November 10, 1967. What really happened to them on November 10, 1967?

They were administered with the Progenitor-Virus

Question Two:

-Billy Coen was sentenced to death at Lexson Base. What crime did he comit?

First-Degree Murder

Question Three:

-The mysterious white robed man in Resident Evil Zero gathers his hundreds of leeches together to make a similar reprensentation of who?

Himself (James Marcus), although it was when he was at his older stages in life. He was actually younger when you first see him in the white robe.

Question Four:

-Name every single member in Alpha Team as well as Bravo Team, and mention how they died.


Chris Redfield ~ Currently Alive
Jill Valentine ~ Currently Alive
Albert Wesker ~ Currently Alive
Barry Burton ~ Currently Alive
Brad Vickers ~ Impaled with Nemesis' tentacle.
Joseph Frost ~ Mauled by the Cerberus.

Enrico Marini ~ Shot by Albert Wesker
Rebecca Chambers ~ Currently Alive
Forest Speyer ~ Pecked to death by crows
Richard Aiken ~ Eaten by the Yawn / Eaten by Neptune
Kenneth J. Sullivan ~ Throat torn out by zombie
Kevin Dooley ~ Possibly mauled by Cerberus.
Edward Dewey ~ Possibly mauled by Cerberus and thrown through train window.


Final Question for now:

-Name the creation of the overly large smart monster in Resident Evil 3. Also name where it roughly came from (Don't need to be specific) and name what it is ordered to do.

Name: Nemesis. Created in Europe (Possibly France). Ordered to hunt down every single remaining S.T.A.R.S member alive.


This is all I'll give you for now.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 23, 2004, 08:14:21 PM
Does Wesker have silly super powers now?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on February 23, 2004, 08:21:35 PM
yes ...Wesker has super human powers . He was most likley saved by some secret organisation
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 23, 2004, 10:08:33 PM
Wesker injected himself with what most people call the "Wesker-Virus" because nobody really knows what he is currently infected with.
Lots of people also refer to him as a Tyrant, as you can see when he takes of his sunglasses, his red eyes are revealed as an effect from the unknown virus.

I wouldn't really say he has silly powers, but rather more something like he has a great strength ability.

Chances are that he'll be returning in Resident Evil 4, possibly with Chris Redfield.
But there are some unexplained interesting facts about Wesker and his relation with the HCF and epilogue of Resident Evil: Outbreak.

Quote

Yes, we'll be dropping 2 for each beginning with sample T-4, the rest will follow at 15 minute intervals.


This was taken from the ending of Resident Evil: Outbreak from one of the men that are in the observation towers built upon the smoking ruins of Raccoon City. Or What's left of it.
The next quote is taken from the Resident Evil: Remake.

Quote

2. Collect two embryos of each mutated specimens as samples, excluding the Tyrant. Dispose of the Tyrant.


That was to Albert Wesker, and all I was thinking was that the organization that is making the supposed breeding grounds in Raccoon City is the HCF, and the reason of Wesker to collect the embryo's was to make a sort of Noah's arc effect where Bio-Organic Weapons will be bred.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on February 23, 2004, 10:23:54 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Zero_Plague
Okay, I'll give you a few questions. But a few may be trick questions, so just keep your eye out.

Question One:

-George Trevor mentions that he was told that Jessica and Lisa Trevor visited his hospitilized Aunty on November 10, 1967. What really happened to them on November 10, 1967?

They were captured by Umbrella and experimented on.

Question Two:

-Billy Coen was sentenced to death at Lexson Base. What crime did he comit?

He murdered 23 innocent people , although he was forced , the cops dont know this.

Question Three:

-The mysterious white robed man in Resident Evil Zero gathers his hundreds of leeches together to make a similar reprensentation of who?

His old former self...the younger James Marcus

Question Four:

-Name every single member in Alpha Team as well as Bravo Team, and mention how they all died.

I am not gonna answer this because it would take me forever ...and I will admit that I dont know how they all died...I can name all the members though ...but I cant be bothered.

Final Question for now:

-Name the creation of the overly large smart monster in Resident Evil 3. Also name where it roughly came from (Don't need to be specific) and name what it is ordered to do.

The monster was Nemesis , noone is sure if he is a tyrant or used making what virus ...but he is there to kill the members of Stars.

This is all I'll give you for now.


Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 23, 2004, 10:29:27 PM
Okay, updating it with the answers.
Most of them you said were correct.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on February 24, 2004, 06:11:18 AM
yeah...those questions would have been much harder if the answers weren't written in bold right underneath the questions.  try adding a spoiler font next time.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on February 24, 2004, 09:00:21 AM
He actually answered them after I did , Now if I really wanted I could have answered No. 4 , but seriously , I am not gonna spend a half hour answering a question that big , I told Plauge to make them hard ones but ones that I can answer in 1 sentence.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 24, 2004, 09:41:43 AM
OK, here's a short essay Q for you:

Why is Lisa Trevor important to the series?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on February 24, 2004, 09:43:31 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
OK, here's a short essay Q for you:

Why is Lisa Trevor important to the series?


May I answer that after I get to that area of the game ? I really didnt read too much into REmake and RE0 because I plan into playing them firsthand.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 25, 2004, 12:59:27 AM
This was quoted straight from reH, which was taken from gamefront.de .

Quote

The Dorimaga published further details in its newest expenditure to resident Evil 4. Capcom confirms that the Umbrella company does not exist any longer. But that would not mean that the action would not stand in a connection with Umbrellas. One does not want to be limited however to old stories of the predecessors, because it concerns a completely new resident Evil. The publication is to take place further exclusively on the Gamecube. One will therefore convert resident Evil 4 on no other hardware of the current generation. In addition it was again confirmed that the entire diagram in the play in real time is computed and that the Survival is particularly terrible horror this time - even the developers would be afraid.


If this is true... then does this mean that there us no Umbrella Corporation?
And if there isn't, I swear to God, I would do anything to stop the production of Resident Evil 4.

Are Capcom out of their minds?

Does this mean that Umbrella has just faded away without us even knowing what the hell happened?

Someone is probablly likely to quote me, once again saying, "Don't have a fit", so I'll say now, that it is strictly MY opinion that Capcom have made their biggest mistake yet.

If this does happen to be all true: ..... A note for Capcom:  You just lost lots of fans.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on February 25, 2004, 05:41:03 AM
another sourse with (mostly) the same information (in proper english, no less):

More Resident Evil 4 Details
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 25, 2004, 06:08:46 AM
*raises hand*  I'll be the first to quote Zero!

It's not very prudent to base your "opinions" on something that hasn't even been fully revealed yet...Instead of "OMFG CAPCOM SUXORS BECAUSE OF TEH STORY EVEN THOUGH WE DONT KNOW THE STORY HRHRHRR!" how about you stay even-headed?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 25, 2004, 11:21:25 AM
Kinda remotely Remotely reminds me of Wind Waker.

Ye olden days are past, but the threatening legacy still remains.  Might Umbrella be "gone" and no longer operating should not have to imply the fruits of their (and Wesker's) labor take no responsibility for the current (RE4) state of the world.  The chronological gap between the lastest adventures is quite large, so a lot may have happened to simply lead to "ok, Umbrella has closed its doors.  you may find the remaining stock of Hunters and T-Virus gelcaps at your local Wal-Mart. Have a nice day."   I've no clue how Capcom intends to fill us in about the gap, if at all.


Update:
REHorror's news update seems to agree with my random thoughts.  What were the random chances of that happening?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 25, 2004, 06:36:23 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Bill
*raises hand*  I'll be the first to quote Zero!

It's not very prudent to base your "opinions" on something that hasn't even been fully revealed yet...Instead of "OMFG CAPCOM SUXORS BECAUSE OF TEH STORY EVEN THOUGH WE DONT KNOW THE STORY HRHRHRR!" how about you stay even-headed?


Nowhere in my post did I say that Capcom sucked, nor did I say that the article/news was even true.
BUT, I did say that If this happens to be true, then I'll be very annoyed and angered, but as of yet, right now, Capcom are still my heroes.

And I'll say it again. If this happens to be true... then I'm not going to be happy at all.


EDIT:
Also from reH, the webmaster states that the older trailers for Resident Evil 4 may not of been scrapped, but rather just a little "overworked".
But, I'm not saying this is yet official.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on February 25, 2004, 06:50:33 PM
O.K this infomation reassures my previous beliefs , I think that Capcom realised how many plot holes/gaps were there , and if they if wanted to fill them then they will need 2-10 other RE games.

I mean they have to tell us what happened with Nikolai , Leon , Rebbeca , Wesker , Chris and Claire , Steve , also there is the question of what happened to Billy ...you see I dont blame them , I mean the story was just to ambitious to continue.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 25, 2004, 06:58:29 PM
The demise of Umbrella will probably be explained in RE4's prequel, Biohazard 5: Code Elizabeth W.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 25, 2004, 07:18:02 PM
Your absolutely right, you know.
The story was too ambitious to continue... therefore they will make a whole new story where they can create just as many plot holes as they did with previous Resident Evil games.
If they wanted to hatch a new story for the games, then for the love of God, please cover up the plot holes they gave us.

Having Umbrella just vanish is completely stupid, seeing that we hardly got any hints in previous Resident Evil games that they were going out of buisness.

Akdaman1, you mention a few plot holes that Capcom never covered up... but I don't happen to see one on the Umbrella Corporation.
You could probablly relate a few of them to Umbrella... but none of them is strictly on the Umbrella Corporation itself.

By the way, you mentioned that there is a plot hole with Leon that hasn't been covered up, and you also mention that you don't blame Capcom for creating a new story because of this plot hole (And a few others.)
You do know that Leon is returning in RE4, don't you?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on February 25, 2004, 07:24:41 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Zero_Plague
Your absolutely right, you know.
The story was too ambitious to continue... therefore they will make a whole new story where they can create just as many plot holes as they did with previous Resident Evil games.
If they wanted to hatch a new story for the games, then for the love of God, please cover up the plot holes they gave us.

Having Umbrella just vanish is completely stupid, seeing that we hardly got any hints in previous Resident Evil games that they were going out of buisness.

Akdaman1, you mention a few plot holes that Capcom never covered up... but I don't happen to see one on the Umbrella Corporation.
You could probablly relate a few of them to Umbrella... but none of them is strictly on the Umbrella Corporation itself.

By the way, you mentioned that there is a plot hole with Leon that hasn't been covered up, and you also mention that you don't blame Capcom for creating a new story because of this plot hole (And a few others.)
You do know that Leon is returning in RE4, don't you?


Yes I know Leon is in it , but put it like this

RE4 = Leon and Ada
RE5 = Chris , Claire and Wesker etc
RE6 = What ever plot wholes opened up from 4 and 5.  The Plots are just opening and there is too many charecters , each charecter says that they are gonna get even with Umbrella ....but 4 years later and nothing has happened. How is capcom gonna explain all of it ? Dont forget about Gun Survivor , which had Umbrella in it , and was dated in 2002.

I believe that this next RE should not be called RE ...it should be a new series focusing around Leon being a secret agent or something.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 25, 2004, 07:38:04 PM
If Capcom use their brains, then they would fill in other plot holes that they created in previous Resident Evil games... but if they do take a road for a 'New' story, then they'll just create a whole new generation of plot holes and then eventually once again say "We'll just hatch a new Resident Evil story. Hopefully the fans wouldn't mind it if our games changed story's with no explanation of how the villains were destroyed every so often."

I do agree with you that Resident Evil DOES need a change... but what I'm saying is that it is utterly stupid to just suddenly end the Umbrella corporation with no explanation at all.
Even if we get a minor explanation of how Umbrella was destroyed, then I'll be happy... but it is going to create a bigger plot hole if Capcom don't explain it.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 26, 2004, 01:58:11 AM
As I said, just wait and see how the story pans out before thinking worst-case scenario...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Kasceis on February 26, 2004, 03:45:52 PM
A new RE4 article.

Right here.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on February 28, 2004, 04:46:51 PM
Is there really an NDA that everyone had to sign? Jeez, I didn't know these kids were so uptight about secrecy. Well, that's an interesting read.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Raziel15 on February 29, 2004, 05:14:49 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Zero_Plague
If Capcom use their brains, then they would fill in other plot holes that they created in previous Resident Evil games... but if they do take a road for a 'New' story, then they'll just create a whole new generation of plot holes and then eventually once again say "We'll just hatch a new Resident Evil story. Hopefully the fans wouldn't mind it if our games changed story's with no explanation of how the villains were destroyed every so often."

I do agree with you that Resident Evil DOES need a change... but what I'm saying is that it is utterly stupid to just suddenly end the Umbrella corporation with no explanation at all.
Even if we get a minor explanation of how Umbrella was destroyed, then I'll be happy... but it is going to create a bigger plot hole if Capcom don't explain it.


Ok I might sound stupid for saying this, but at the end of Resident Evil 3 didn't they blow up Raccoon City? Because At least in the ending I got that happened.

Sorry about the spoiler.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on February 29, 2004, 06:20:16 PM
Um, could we PLEASE us spoiler text when we plan on ruining the ending of games that some of us have yet to play?

Honestly some people.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 29, 2004, 06:25:27 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Raziel15
Quote

Originally posted by: Zero_Plague
If Capcom use their brains, then they would fill in other plot holes that they created in previous Resident Evil games... but if they do take a road for a 'New' story, then they'll just create a whole new generation of plot holes and then eventually once again say "We'll just hatch a new Resident Evil story. Hopefully the fans wouldn't mind it if our games changed story's with no explanation of how the villains were destroyed every so often."

I do agree with you that Resident Evil DOES need a change... but what I'm saying is that it is utterly stupid to just suddenly end the Umbrella corporation with no explanation at all.
Even if we get a minor explanation of how Umbrella was destroyed, then I'll be happy... but it is going to create a bigger plot hole if Capcom don't explain it.


Ok I might sound stupid for saying this, but at the end of Resident Evil 3 didn't they blow up Raccoon City? Because At least in the ending I got that happened.



Raccoon City did explode at the end of Resident Evil 3... but the Umbrella Corporation still lives on, as their main Headquaters are actually in Europe, and most people, including myself, believe it is in (Loire Village,) France.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on February 29, 2004, 06:26:34 PM
SPOILER TEXT!!!! AHHHHH!!! COME ON PEOPLE!!! HAVE SOME JIVIN' CONSIDERATION FOR OTHERS!!!!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on February 29, 2004, 06:57:13 PM
Dont worry

Umbrella is around in the year 2002 from Dead Aim or something ..that aint a spoiler so dont flame me Berny
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on March 01, 2004, 06:07:07 AM
poor berny; i thought the poor guy was going to have a mental breakdown.
jivin'
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on March 03, 2004, 03:10:39 PM
I think I did. Now I have no desire to play RE3.

Naw I'm just kiddin. I want to see how it happens. Just like how at the end of RE1 it turns out how the rabid dogs were really intelligent alien life forms sent from the planet T to destroy the inhabitants of the mansion. Oops! ^_^
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 03, 2004, 03:28:36 PM
"That was TOO CLOSE.  You were almost a JiHLL sandwich!"

"Yh-you're right!!  Barry, thanks for saving my life!"
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on March 03, 2004, 05:00:30 PM
Ha ha ha! Wow, that took me a few seconds for it to click. A few seconds too long. I need to play RE again.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 03, 2004, 05:29:50 PM
Berny, all of mankind is depending on you to listen to this audio file.  It's the "mansion incident" Capcom didn't want you to know  *_*
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on March 03, 2004, 06:23:56 PM
HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! That has brightened my day, 666. Thank you. I now understand the symbolism behind Jill almost being crushed in that one room.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on March 04, 2004, 10:14:55 AM
If anyone is interested... 2 seconds of Resident Evil 4 footage has been posted in the reH forums under the RE4 topic.

Although the footage is very short (About 2 seconds) it is quite nice to play over and over again.
What I find strange is that Leon seems to be shooting people that move more like zombies then they do humans... so I'm beginning to wonder if these 'enemies' can range from humans and zombies.

By the looks of things, the short struggle Leon has with the chainsaw wielding opponent looks like a human, so it seems we are going to get a large amount of varied enemies.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 04, 2004, 10:19:50 AM
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What I find strange is that Leon seems to be shooting people that move more like zombies then they do humans... so I'm beginning to wonder if these 'enemies' can range from humans and zombies.


Like someone pointed out in this thread, I'm thinking the humans have recently been infected with the T virus and are in the first stages of zombification- no doubt there will be varying levels of zombies in RE4.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 04, 2004, 10:40:23 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
The two guys dancing in the background is FUNNY STUFF!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 04, 2004, 10:57:59 AM
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Originally posted by: mouse_clicker
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What I find strange is that Leon seems to be shooting people that move more like zombies then they do humans... so I'm beginning to wonder if these 'enemies' can range from humans and zombies.


Like someone pointed out in this thread, I'm thinking the humans have recently been infected with the T virus and are in the first stages of zombification- no doubt there will be varying levels of zombies in RE4.


It's most likely the Mother virus(aka Progenitor), not the T-virus... ^_^
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 04, 2004, 11:10:24 AM
Smart@$$.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 04, 2004, 11:21:39 AM
*banned for bypassing the censor*

...

*oh, and banned for being mean to Bill*

 
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 04, 2004, 05:02:03 PM
2 new, semi-clear (deinterlaced S-Video captures, I think) screenshots of Resident Evil 4.
click

I don't agree with the lack of lighting applied to the villagers with the torches.  Since the torches act as a point-source of light, the faces of the villagers should've been lighted clearly.

Having them darkened out only makes sense if the light sources are "1-dimensional," between the viewer and the person holding the light, and directed toward the viewer, like from a flashlight, as shown in this older screen:
flashlight
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on March 04, 2004, 07:56:10 PM
Though very small, there are new pictures posted up on Biohazard-HQ that reveals a cover, containing about 10 or more smaller screenshots shown.

In a few of the screenshots, we can see Leon in action, pushing over ladders while the angered villagers climb up them.
One picture also contains a mansion that Leon stands by, which in my opinion, is where we meet the ghastly shadow type enemy, Mr. Hook.
It looks as if in one screenshot, some kind of explosion has been triggered off behind the villagers, unless this is just the distorted glow of the bomb fire that they surround in one of the cut-scenes.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on March 04, 2004, 09:46:25 PM
This game in on my most wanted list, lol goodthing it'll be out by christmas, I know I'll be getting something infected under my tree
( yes I know there's gonna be hell to pay for that statement )

But has there been information yet wheather Leon is infected, scenario is still in play?

Intresting either way.

But leads me wanting more, shouldn't the NDA ended by now or shortly?

I can't wait to see footage and info, Capcom better promote the hell outta this.

I know it will sell by the bucket loads ( possibly wheelburrows )

also

lol @ Bill and Mouse_Clicker, funny comments galore heh
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Sirmorphix on March 06, 2004, 02:21:27 PM
There's apparently a short preview video out according to the Magic Box, but their link is broken.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on March 06, 2004, 11:08:37 PM
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Originally posted by: Sirmorphix
There's apparently a short preview video out according to the Magic Box, but their link is broken.


That'll probablly be the 2 second footage of Resident Evil 4 that is also downloadable off http://ranobe.com/up2/updata/up4616.zip .
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on March 11, 2004, 07:57:03 PM
If anyone is interested, there are new Biohazard/Resident Evil 4 pictures posted up on reH's main news page. Not too many, but still there is about 5 news pictures for us to look at.

DaMa from reH also mentions that his 'source' will be posting up a possible 4 minute trailer of Resident Evil 4 this friday or somewhere around that time on the offical Biohazard 4 Website.
Just look at reH's news page for more details.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on March 12, 2004, 01:42:04 AM
I sure hope so... but it's this friday now, so where's the new trailer?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on March 12, 2004, 05:20:58 AM
hey zero_plague, the pics seem to be down.  you wouldn't happen to have archived them, would you?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on March 12, 2004, 11:35:23 AM
OK people , sorry to inform you but there is NO video coming out.

DAMAs source was wrong.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on March 12, 2004, 02:12:06 PM
According to reH, DaMa has posted that his source was wrong.
On the official Resident Evil 4 topic, a few people mention that the trailer might be coming out on the 19th, or the 26th... but I wouldn't get my hopes up for anything too much yet... as it could be delayed or wrong information again.

But anyway, keep looking up at the official Biohazard 4 website often, as we should be getting this anticipated trailer soon.

By the way, Kingvudu, I do happen to have saved them to 'My Documents', so I could try e-mailing them to you if you wish, although they are quite big... and I'm not even sure if they would be able to be attached to the e-mail.
But try the links again. I just tried them and they seemed to work for me.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 12, 2004, 03:00:33 PM
With regards to the end-of-March trailer, I've pre-ordered the May 2004 issue of Famitsu Wave DVD a few weeks ago.  I "promise" to have a 640x480 DivX copy of the Bio4 trailer available to the public within 2 days after I receive the DVD/magazine.  This had better be worth my $20.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on March 12, 2004, 05:20:44 PM
Thanks professional666, that would be muchly appreciated.

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 12, 2004, 06:46:28 PM
It's my sick hobby.

There'd better not be strange men dancing to funkadelik music in the background of the trailer.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on March 12, 2004, 08:23:48 PM
lol yeah, that was...................... just plain too freaky!

What is up with that?

I wanted to see RE4 at best, not will & grace with masks
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on March 13, 2004, 01:27:55 PM
A member on reH in the Resident Evil 4 topics mentions that he has recieved an official Nintendo Magazine with 6 new pages on RE4 with a few new pictures.
Scans of the pages will be up soon.

By the way... with that 2 second trailer and the people dancing in the background that everyone is talking about... I thought it was rather addictive and easily the best part of the trailer.
Although they really need to learn how to dance.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on March 16, 2004, 05:15:42 AM
isn't is about time for the game informer exclusivity contract to be over?  anyone know when we'll hear new information?

zp - i keep getting this error message when i try to view those pics on reH.
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Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /gamefront-temp/biohazard4-91.jpg on this server.
Apache/1.3.29 Server at www.gfdata.de Port 80
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on March 16, 2004, 10:00:17 AM
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Originally posted by: kingvudu


zp - i keep getting this error message when i try to view those pics on reH.


Hmm...
I've got them saved, so if you wanted, I could try to send them to you via e-mail if the pictures arn't too big.
But to be honest, there isn't really much in the scans. Just about an extra 5 or 6 pictures... bust most of them are just Leon walking around the town and forest.

Anyway, there has been some new information from reH under the topic name "RE4 NDA Lifted".
It includes a scan of Leon basically blowing off the upper torso of a villager with a shotgun.
Some other interesting points in there like Wesker WILL be in this game as well as clearing up the questions on the zombie matter.
The magazine mentions that the villagers are inbetween "Human" and "Zombie", so I'm pretty much suspecting that they'll be infected.

Have a look at the topic. It's got much more interesting information to look at.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 16, 2004, 05:42:14 PM
Today seems to be the last day for the RE4 NDA.  IGNCUcumBEr has an update set for just after midnight.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 16, 2004, 06:03:00 PM
Bah, that's 12:01 Pacific, though, I think- that's 2:01 AM for me.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 16, 2004, 09:27:26 PM
Eh my hunch was right.  all the sites are RE4-crazy now.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on March 16, 2004, 09:28:25 PM
I'm confused, but PGC preview of RE4, say's that it takes place in south america. But IGN say's it's in Europe, What is it really?

Europe makes more sense as that's where umbrella was based at. But GameInformer said south america, but everywhere else claims europe. Can this be cleared up?

I can't wait for this game, I just wished we can see the trailer of it.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bloodworth on March 16, 2004, 10:27:28 PM
Bleh, judging from IGN's interview, it's Europe apparently.  I fixed our preview.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on March 16, 2004, 11:45:43 PM
Awesome! Now the info and screenshots are everywhere.

Now where's that darn trailer... the moment i see that magic link to the next RE4 trailer tears will flow from my eyes out of sheer happiness.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on March 17, 2004, 05:28:31 AM
ug... re4 information overload.

(i've never been happier in my life.)
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on March 17, 2004, 08:00:52 AM
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Originally posted by: Bloodworth
Bleh, judging from IGN's interview, it's Europe apparently.  I fixed our preview.



Thanks Bloodworth, seems funny that GameInformers ( Exclusive ) would claim it took place in south america when now that seems incorrect.

Perhaps there was a mistranslation on their part?

Either way, I'm psyched about this game.

One Word " Sweet"
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: CaseyRyback on March 17, 2004, 09:19:40 AM
Kobayash(RE4's producer)i makes me think of The Usual Suspects way too much
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on March 17, 2004, 11:01:27 AM
i've read something like five previews for this game, looked at the same ten screenshots over and over again (each time with a different website's logo on them), and i still can't get enough.  i have a feeling the wait for this game is going to make the wait for twin snakes look like child's play.

how many discs is this game?  two or three?

does anyone else think leon is looking way too much like jack white for his own good?  except for the hair color, he's a spot-on match.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on March 17, 2004, 11:37:40 AM
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Originally posted by: kingvudu
i've read something like five previews for this game, looked at the same ten screenshots over and over again (each time with a different website's logo on them), and i still can't get enough.  i have a feeling the wait for this game is going to make the wait for twin snakes look like child's play.

how many discs is this game?  two or three?

does anyone else think leon is looking way too much like jack white for his own good?  except for the hair color, he's a spot-on match.


I think it's either 3 or 4 Disc, It's just that "BIG"

Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 17, 2004, 12:35:49 PM
For those that haven't seen them yet...New pics!

Link

Oh, and I believe it's three discs...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 17, 2004, 12:46:54 PM
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Oh, and I believe it's three discs...


WTF are they filling them with?!?!?!?! First Twin Snakes is on two discs despite it only having some 5 minutes of actual FMV, and now Resident Evil 4 is rumored to be on THREE discs while Capcom has said themselves that quite literally everything in the game is real time? I'm confused! ;__;
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 17, 2004, 12:56:02 PM
REmake and RE0 were on two discs, though they didn't fill them completely...A longer game made of actual polygons and no prerendering would obviously take up more space, no?  And who says they will fill up the entire third disc?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 17, 2004, 01:11:25 PM
REmake and RE:0 both had almost entirely prerendered backrounds in every room, though- it's understandable while they're on 2 discs. I don't think pure game code takes up quite literally gigabytes of space. I guess Twin Snakes and Resident Evil 4 have a LOT of texturing (as we can all see), and I guess SK and Capcom aren't compressing them. Still, that's some heavy texturing.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Draygaia on March 17, 2004, 01:24:24 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Bill
REmake and RE0 were on two discs, though they didn't fill them completely...A longer game made of actual polygons and no prerendering would obviously take up more space, no?  And who says they will fill up the entire third disc?


Actually if it was entirely polygons it would take up less space and less than one GCN disc.  The game was short and it took up two discs!  The pre-rendered background is what really takes up the space.  I'm not tech head but since the character graphics was just IMO so damn good I'm guessing they concentrated the polygons on that.  The pre-rendering was a way to give it good graphics w/o actually purely using the system's power.  Kinda like the reasoning behind the movies in FF games on the PSX.  The system can't be that powerful to show it and since it is a disc why not?

ADDED:

I just have to express my thoughts.  The game just seems so amazing already!  I hope the control is better than the series.  I was kinda expecting a winback with some melee combo fighting system but this interesting engine seems so cool and so easy to use!  I always thought it was so damn crappy for a zombie to use a weapon.  It just didn't seem to make sense but after just looking at the movies and pictures they make look really good.  The zombie with a chainsaw attacking Leon is my favorite picture.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 17, 2004, 01:38:26 PM
Wait, I could have sworn that polygons took up more space than prerendered backgrounds, especially with the polygon count RE4 is pushing...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Nimbus on March 17, 2004, 02:03:01 PM
I really think that poly takes less space than pre-rendered.  If you look at a poly file, it's mostly just coordinate of points, like a text file full of numbers.  As for the textures and sound it is another story.  The textures alone must fill a great deal of the disc and they are copied from one disk to another to be used in the entire games, like the menus.  In a sense, if the game was on one single cd it would take a lot less space.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on March 17, 2004, 08:45:05 PM
Looks like we will be receiving the new trailer VERY soon.
DaMa guesses that we might see the trailer on Resident Evil's anniversary, which sounds pretty understandable to me... but afterall, it is a guess.

I doubt that we won't be getting this trailer till April... but who knows?
Lets just keep fingers crossed... and hope for the best.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on March 18, 2004, 11:21:44 AM
i don't think this has been asked yet, but has anything been said about the saving system?  i read on ign that the typewriters are back, but does anyone know if there's still a limited amount of saves?  i always hated that.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on March 18, 2004, 11:30:45 AM
here is a nice webpage that pretty much sums up all information known about re4.  it's mostly all just taken directly from various internet previews.  nice for those of you who may not have time to read six different previews that contain 90% of the same information
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: SLIVER on March 18, 2004, 12:38:12 PM
Nintendo Article on RE4

http://www.nintendo.com/newsarticle?articleid=bb3be38f-3b05-43f4-9a14-f289249c9a0b&page=systemGCN
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 18, 2004, 03:32:19 PM
That was so yesterday.  Today is the 18th.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on March 19, 2004, 01:47:45 AM
The official Biohazard 4 website has been updated.
Nothing new... but it may be looking as if Capcom is happening to get everything on their site (possibly including the trailer) to a wonderful appearance for Resident Evil's anniversary on the 22nd.

The door opening sequence and the picture slideshow for the story do look somewhat fascinating.
Pity though that it's all in Japanese.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Garnia on March 20, 2004, 01:40:09 AM
wow, i have been gone from these forums for like 4 months..... umm anyways! Woah! I can't wait to get resident Evil 4! I think it is gonna be the best one yet! Even better than dare I say it, Resident Evil 2! I don't know how I'm gonna wait till Q4 2004 though! I guess Tales of Symphonia and Harvest Moon AWL will just have to hold me off!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on March 20, 2004, 05:57:52 AM
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Originally posted by: Garnia
wow, i have been gone from these forums for like 4 months..... umm anyways! Woah! I can't wait to get resident Evil 4! I think it is gonna be the best one yet! Even better than dare I say it, Resident Evil 2! I don't know how I'm gonna wait till Q4 2004 though! I guess Tales of Symphonia and Harvest Moon AWL will just have to hold me off!



Better add Baten  Kaitos to that list

It's my top 5 list
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Rich on March 20, 2004, 07:46:08 AM
Hey guys I just got my Game Informer and they say that the made a mistake about the location, it is definetly in Europe.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Oldskool on March 20, 2004, 09:57:02 AM
Yay, they're not using zombies again. And Umbrellas gone... although they may influence the game. How can that be?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on March 20, 2004, 10:42:42 AM
O.K ...36 second video is up of the game

Its bad quality with no sound but still worth the short download.

Check out www.nintendoinsider.com
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on March 20, 2004, 10:46:30 AM
very cool.  thanks the the tip, akdaman1.

the footage looks great, considering.  i can hardly wait for an official trailer.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on March 20, 2004, 04:09:33 PM
Thanks Akdaman1, it's not bad but it does show off the game in motion. I can't wait for a high rez and sound filled trailer.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: reviewgamer on March 20, 2004, 08:56:05 PM
Personally, i dont think zombies have been completely removed. The 'trance' like state everyone keeps referring sounds awfully familiar to a journal seen in Resident Evil 1 (The remake). If anyone remembers, a journal written by one of the workers in the mansion. Each new journal entry you read, he seems like he progressively becomes more and more zombie like, up until his last few entries that says something along the lines of 'Fever gone but itchy. Today hungry and eat doggie food.' 'Itchy itchy Scott came ugly face so killed him. Tasty.'  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on March 20, 2004, 10:43:43 PM
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Originally posted by: reviewgamer
Personally, i dont think zombies have been completely removed. The 'trance' like state everyone keeps referring sounds awfully familiar to a journal seen in Resident Evil 1 (The remake). If anyone remembers, a journal written by one of the workers in the mansion. Each new journal entry you read, he seems like he progressively becomes more and more zombie like, up until his last few entries that says something along the lines of 'Fever gone but itchy. Today hungry and eat doggie food.' 'Itchy itchy Scott came ugly face so killed him. Tasty.'


Yep, everybody's favourite diary.

Anyway, with the "no zombie/zombie" situtation, some people (Including myself) had thought that all these villagers were all hosts of some sort of virus that is slowly taking them through the stages of zombification... although they are not yet zombies themselves.
Others also have theories on whether this may be a new virus by Umbrella or some other character/organization.

Personally, I tend to think to myself that the 'infected' theory is more believable, but I guess that we'll have to wait to discover.

In my eyes, I feel that the amount of overly intense action that we saw in the 36 second video clip may be too much for a "Survival Horror" saga, and may subtract the level of fear of the player... but then again, according to the numerous players of the Resident Evil 4 demo, it did seem to scare them... so I'm hoping that this game will live up to the scares that previous Resident Evil games gave us.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Garnia on March 21, 2004, 02:00:45 AM
 my personal favourite diary was the watchmans diary from resident evil 2 and i hope that capcom doesn't mess up this game like they kinda did with re3. i just didn't find it scary, though i still found it fun. by the looks of things, re4 is gonna be great.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Oldskool on March 21, 2004, 05:22:35 AM
I loved the bit where Leon was blasting the guy behind the door with the shotgun in the video. Although grainy, the video showed the incredible graphics and effects of RE4, and having seen it in motion I believe it has the best graphics I've seen on any console.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 21, 2004, 06:27:10 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Zero_Plague
In my eyes, I feel that the amount of overly intense action that we saw in the 36 second video clip may be too much for a "Survival Horror" saga, and may subtract the level of fear of the player... but then again, according to the numerous players of the Resident Evil 4 demo, it did seem to scare them... so I'm hoping that this game will live up to the scares that previous Resident Evil games gave us.

You don't think it's scarier when you're enemies are smarter and wield weapons? O_o
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Draygaia on March 21, 2004, 09:21:22 AM
Wouldn't it be cool if there were something in the game where you can spot references to movies and you get something for it in the game?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: reviewgamer on March 21, 2004, 01:27:06 PM
Offical Site


The offical site has been updated. That one is in japanese though and i cant read it. im not sure if the english site has been updated also as i dont have the link for it.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 21, 2004, 04:07:18 PM
Didn't read through rest of the post, but I don't think this was mentioned.
Nintendojo is soon to update with home video footage of Resident Evil 4, and for the time being(because of bandwidth issues) has a short .gif of the video in action.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 21, 2004, 05:18:48 PM
It was...It's part of the 30-some-odd second no-sound video that's going around...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on March 21, 2004, 06:23:56 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Nintendojo is soon to update with home video footage of Resident Evil 4, and for the time being(because of bandwidth issues) has a short .gif of the video in action.

Like the ripple effect Capcom has going there!  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on March 21, 2004, 10:25:20 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Didn't read through rest of the post, but I don't think this was mentioned.
Nintendojo is soon to update with home video footage of Resident Evil 4, and for the time being(because of bandwidth issues) has a short .gif of the video in action.


No its not ...that little Gif is from the video that is floating around already.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 21, 2004, 10:59:48 PM
Like pr0n, online video game footage should be of high quality, so as to not insult the beauty of the game's visuals, or show how truly aweful it looks.  I patiently await for the May 2004 Famitsu Wave DVD.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Oldskool on March 22, 2004, 02:30:06 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
Like pr0n, online video game footage should be of high quality, so as to not insult the beauty of the game's visuals, or show how truly aweful it looks.  I patiently await for the May 2004 Famitsu Wave DVD.


Hmmmm... I wonder why Proffesional 666 knows so much about that kind of "entertainment"?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 22, 2004, 05:59:00 AM
Hush, you!  I've mastered all forms of  Home Entertainment.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 22, 2004, 01:22:00 PM
[ Direct linking clowns like me helped gca's bandwidth go over and thus I am a loathsome individual ]
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: reviewgamer on March 22, 2004, 01:36:52 PM
all i wanna know is that with all the changes: No pre-renders, no fmvs and no zombies (supposedly) if RE4 will still feel like the Resident Evil we all know and love
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 22, 2004, 01:47:28 PM
The game does look alot more fast paced, escpecially with having to shoot objects out of the air while they are being hurled at your head.  
Also the people still look a little zombie-ish, you saw the way that guy took those bullets and kept coming  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on March 23, 2004, 04:30:18 PM
I hope this doesn't turn into a mindless zombie blasting game. I don't mind quicker zombies. That is a good thing. But I hope the game still stressed conservation of ammo.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 23, 2004, 04:53:11 PM
A few new tidbits...

- The story involving Leon being infected has, in fact, been totally dropped
- The second playable character is one that hasn't been introduced yet
- It's been confirmed that the enemies are not infected with the T-virus, but Umbrella does play a large part in the game though they were supposedly destroyed...

More and more keeps piling up...What's next? ^_^
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on March 23, 2004, 05:11:36 PM
The people are upset at Umbrella for ruining their lives so Umbrella makes up the whole kidnapping thing, tapes a paper that reads "Umbrella" onto Leon's back, and sends him to the village. Berny has spoken.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: random_hero on March 23, 2004, 10:02:52 PM
Okay. Off topic but a question that has to be asked.

Why didn't Capcom release the N64 version of Resident Evil 2 on Gamecube instead of PS1..?

Why has no one thought of that stupidly obvious question?  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 23, 2004, 10:09:51 PM
Because Resident Evil 2 was released in 1997, 3 years after the Playstation launched, 1 year after the N64 launched, and 4 years before the Gamecube launched.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: random_hero on March 23, 2004, 10:12:40 PM
i dont get it...?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on March 23, 2004, 10:16:39 PM
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Originally posted by: mouse_clicker
Because Resident Evil 2 was released in 1997, 3 years after the Playstation launched, 1 year after the N64 launched, and 4 years before the Gamecube launched.


Ummmm ...I dont get it.

To answer your question ...I cant ...but it must be that they already had an emulated verision of RE2...I mean ....it was ported over like 10 times ( Ps1 ).

P.s- Im not sure if this is right or not.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: random_hero on March 23, 2004, 10:23:10 PM
Okay, i just realised that it makes no sence to port a PS1 game instead of a N64 game to a Gamecube...oh well.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: The Omen on March 24, 2004, 08:24:50 AM
I think the new RE is going the same route horror movies are going.  Fast paced heart stopping action instead of the slower paced and 'jump out of no where to scare you' type.  Watching The Shining(Kubrick version, of course) the other night, i realized that movie would never be released today.  It would be cut short and a lot of the slow steady cam angles would be totally removed.  The new Dawn of the Dead compared to the old...RE4 will be the new.  And while still scary, i think it's a different kind of fright.  As opposed to being afraid to find what might be around the corner, a chainsaw wielding maniac will come after you from around that corner before you can get your bearings.  Still scary, just adrenaline rush style.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Draygaia on March 24, 2004, 01:23:33 PM
Ok about the porting thing.  On the N64 they only released RE2 because that was the one popular RE game that started its success.  Now on the GCN REMake was made just so they can go back to the roots right?  Well if it helped get newer fans they might want to know the rest of the story.  Well instead of getting a PSX, N64, DC, or upgraded PC at the time they decided to re-release them on the GCN.  IMO the only ridiculous things about it is that it should have been all-in-one and $30 for all three, but even if I did see one now at $20 it should be $10 instead.

From my watchings of a lot of horror movies I want this new RE4 to have Texas Chainsaw Massacre atmosphere.  The area and daytime of the game fit so well IMO.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 25, 2004, 06:19:05 AM
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Originally posted by: Berny
The people are upset at Umbrella for ruining their lives so Umbrella makes up the whole kidnapping thing, tapes a paper that reads "Umbrella" onto Leon's back, and sends him to the village. Berny has spoken.


By golly, I think you're right!  First boy-bands, and now Leon!  Now wonder these natives are pissed!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 28, 2004, 03:50:57 PM
Here's how the May 2004 edition of Famitsu Wave DVD magazine looks:
click
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on March 28, 2004, 07:59:56 PM
Quite a high chance that the Reisdent Evil 4 trailer will be released with the Famitsu wave DVD, so lets all just hope for the best.
We've all waited quite a long time now, so this trailer (Presuming there will be one) better be worth the long wait that we have gone through.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 28, 2004, 09:26:06 PM
I hear ya.  It'd better be worth my $20 for importing this issue (could've bought a nice bargain-priced game with that).  I mean, Resident Evil 4/Leon is featured on the cover, so one would expect & hope the DVD covers that title the most in terms of minutes of video footage.

I'm not sure when I'm receiving my copy, hopefully by the week's end, but I'll be sure to rip/upload everything that's worth watching on the DVD on Resi4.  It'll be in 640x480 DivX 5.1.1 AVI format, with a data rate of 13.6MB/min, which should look clean & clear.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 29, 2004, 12:15:39 PM
IT'S SHIPPPINGGGGA.!!!!!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on March 29, 2004, 06:35:24 PM
There's a new 8 minute trailer floating around taken from the Famitsu thingy.

http://gamecubeheaven.tk/

The link to the video there is down though.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 29, 2004, 06:54:42 PM
I'm sending the clip to Berto, so though who can't get it might be able to later...

edit:  Berto found a mirror -  Link
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on March 29, 2004, 08:19:20 PM
That trailer certainly was worth the wait for its release, and the wait for the download.
The chainsaw wielding maniac looks quite heart pounding... and driving that boat while chasing that Loch Ness-like monster certainly does look challenging.
Quite nice looks on how the boat just flies out of the water and capsizes. I've already watched the trailer about 5 times... and i'm still not sick of it yet.

Anyway, i'm going to e-mail a few people now on it's release, and i'll be off to watch a few more replays of it.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on March 29, 2004, 09:08:00 PM
People HELP ME!!!

Each time I download it a box comes up saying I got some codec error ....wats happeining ?

HELPPPPP
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 29, 2004, 09:29:08 PM
Get the latest DivX codec.
http://www.divx.com/divx/?src=toptab_divx_from_/index.php

Look for "Standard DivX Codec (FREE)" link.
Neither Me, nor DivX.com will be held responsible for any subsequent damage whatsoever caused by following the instructions in this post.

BE PREPARED

STOP DROP AND ROLL  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on March 30, 2004, 09:37:28 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
Get the latest DivX codec.
http://www.divx.com/divx/?src=toptab_divx_from_/index.php

Look for "Standard DivX Codec (FREE)" link.
Neither Me, nor DivX.com will be held responsible for any subsequent damage whatsoever caused by following the instructions in this post.

BE PREPARED

STOP DROP AND ROLL


Thanx for ur help ....youra LEGEND !!!

God that was AWSOME ... Leon moves much more ...fluid and the ammo supply seems to come around more often which is a good thing for crap players like me.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: SearanoX on March 30, 2004, 11:01:24 AM
That looks incredible...those are by far the best console graphics I've seen, and the gameplay actually looks much more interesting than I thought it would be.  The boat scene is particularily stunning.  It's hard to believe that this really is Resident Evil.  I just hope that the camera is a little more versitile in the game (look around more easily) and that there are more gameplay elements than the ones shown.

Who knows...I've never been interested in Resident Evil, but this may convince me to buy it.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 30, 2004, 11:08:27 AM
To me, the "action buttons" are the most interesting thing...Kicking down doors, ladders, and enemies, jumping over fences and out windows...Very, very cool...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 30, 2004, 11:12:12 AM
"Context Senxsitive" as Conker would say.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on March 30, 2004, 05:24:27 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: akdaman1
People HELP ME!!!

Each time I download it a box comes up saying I got some codec error ....wats happeining ?

HELPPPPP



I've downloaded it without a problem, Real Player seems to work quite fine with it. Although I also have the Divix player, but it wasn't needed.

So if you have it, try real player it works
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 30, 2004, 06:05:44 PM
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So if you have it, try real player it works


Hey kids! On today's episode, we're going to find out what's wrong with this sentence! I'll give you a hint- it's an oxymoron!! ^_^  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on March 30, 2004, 07:06:06 PM
Since my last post, I've watched the trailer about another 20 times... and I'm still in awe of the graphics, gameplay and purely the fun that this game looks like it will deliver.
This has had such a large change from the original Biohazard series, and it still amazes me... and in a way... I'm actually thankful that Capcom did basically change from Survival Horror to an Action/Heart Pounding Survival Horror.

My brother, who basically isn't a large fan of the Resident Evil series (In fact, he hates all the games) felt like watching the trailer once.
And even I was amazed from what he said... because when he usually says something about Resident Evil... it's always negative.
But when he saw the trailer for RE4, he said "Hey, this one actually looks half decent.", and throughout the trailer he usually kept repeating the words "Kick ass" over and over again when Leon done something incredibly outstanding.

He may even now be chipping in for the price when I import the Biohazard 4 version of the game... as well as paying half the price for Resident Evil 4 when it is released down here. (In 2005 )
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Deguello on March 30, 2004, 07:16:54 PM
Real Player is the way The Devil controls his minions.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on March 30, 2004, 07:34:41 PM
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Originally posted by: Zero_Plague
Since my last post, I've watched the trailer about another 20 times... and I'm still in awe of the graphics, gameplay and purely the fun that this game looks like it will deliver.
This has had such a large change from the original Biohazard series, and it still amazes me... and in a way... I'm actually thankful that Capcom did basically change from Survival Horror to an Action/Heart Pounding Survival Horror.

My brother, who basically isn't a large fan of the Resident Evil series (In fact, he hates all the games) felt like watching the trailer once.
And even I was amazed from what he said... because when he usually says something about Resident Evil... it's always negative.
But when he saw the trailer for RE4, he said "Hey, this one actually looks half decent.", and throughout the trailer he usually kept repeating the words "Kick ass" over and over again when Leon done something incredibly outstanding.

He may even now be chipping in for the price when I import the Biohazard 4 version of the game... as well as paying half the price for Resident Evil 4 when it is released down here. (In  2006 )


Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on March 31, 2004, 01:47:00 AM
2006?
Where did you hear that from?

I find it hard to see why we would be waiting for over 13 months to receive the game down here.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: animex on March 31, 2004, 05:18:15 AM
cabin fever anyone?
re4 looks simply amazing!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on March 31, 2004, 09:22:58 AM
akdaman is an aussie.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 31, 2004, 09:25:15 AM
Guess what?  So is Zero...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on March 31, 2004, 10:03:09 AM
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Originally posted by: kingvudu
akdaman is an aussie.


Please Megaman ( I was just reminded of Viewtiful Joe while typing your name ) dont call me an Aussie but a dude from Australia.

If you came down here you will find that most Aussies find themselves bashed and bagged.


Oh and I said 2006 because this is Capcom ppl ...they along with Nintendo seem to delay their games for quite a while when coming to Aus. Also good games always get pushed back ...its like gods trying to piss me off. ( No offence God )
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on March 31, 2004, 10:12:16 AM
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Originally posted by: mouse_clicker
Quote

So if you have it, try real player it works


Hey kids! On today's episode, we're going to find out what's wrong with this sentence! I'll give you a hint- it's an oxymoron!! ^_^



Mouse_Clicker are you pointing out a grammar error of mine.....? or are you merely poking fun at me?

Either way, I already knew my mistake. I've had other important matters to deal with, than editing a minor flaw.

For your sake, I will carefully watch for any future grammar errors........ Including yours!!!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 31, 2004, 10:13:16 AM
It was implied that "Real Player" and "it works" shouldn't be put in the same sentence together...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on March 31, 2004, 10:20:37 AM
Yes that's true, It's just one of those thing's when your in a hurry. (had to see my brother in rehab, he was in a car wreck)
I kinda took it the wrong way, it felt like fun was being poked out for my grammar failure.

it's cool either way.

I was just stating that real player........ works.

Instead of using Divix.

Anyways

I'm sorry if it sounded that I was snapping, it's been rough, no offence or anything.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 31, 2004, 10:30:18 AM
Sorry if I came off as offensive, I just have an intense dislike for Real Player. I am of the firm belief that the words "Real Player" and "works" should never be uttered in the same breath except when seperated by the word "not".
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on March 31, 2004, 10:35:32 AM
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( I was just reminded of Viewtiful Joe while typing your name )
why viewtiful joe?

and i apologize for calling you an aussie.  from now on i will refer to you are australia dude numero uno.  

also, i didn't know zero was from the land down under.  good catch, bill.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on March 31, 2004, 11:21:24 AM
Yep, I'm also from Australia... but akdaman1 was quite right on how not many people seem to like Australians.
Hopefully your not focusing on the stereotypical Australian... because we're nothing like the Steve Erwin kind.
In fact its quite rare that you run into someone down here that is actually... an Australian with Aussie background.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 31, 2004, 11:23:22 AM
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Yep, I'm also from Australia... but akdaman1 was quite right on how not many people seem to like Australians.


That's an outrage! Australians are some of the coolest people around! And probably some of the only that actually like Americans.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on March 31, 2004, 11:30:43 AM
<3 Aussies. My teacher is an Aussie. She's leaving us next year though. For Aussie–land.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 31, 2004, 11:45:45 AM
The DivX codec (a couple *.dll's and *.ax's) is what's important, not the media playing software (however, QT doesn't run DivX).  Media players are mainly vehicles to access the audio/video decoders on your operating system.

I still use Windows Media Player 6.4, cuz it loads fast, is compact, has no unnecessary buttons, gives me access to codec settings, and I can pause/play video by simply pressing SPACE BAR.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on March 31, 2004, 11:46:12 AM
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we're nothing like the Steve Erwin kind.
i was picturing drocodile dundee.  i don't even know who steve erwin is.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 31, 2004, 11:50:10 AM
You've never heard of the Crocodile Hunter, King?!?

Also, his name is spelled Steve Irwin- even his own countrymen can't get it right.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on March 31, 2004, 12:03:04 PM
That's because he's crazy and is Australia's only connection to America through popular culture. He's going to end up just like Roy. That will not be fun.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on March 31, 2004, 12:33:16 PM
Out of curiousity Mouse_Clicker, Why do you have a dislike for "Real Player"?

Just rhetroctical question, and what media player do you prefer? ( if there's one )

And for my own question ( ok so there's two )

What's a good DVD player for windows? ( the program, not the drive )

I have the Nvidia DVD player, although as usual you can't use everything that's in it.
since they would want a "fee" to use all the extras.

I noticed the same is true of WinDVD.

I've push my rez to over 1600x

I seem to get better quality video when playing dvd's.



Anyway lol, on topic here.

I've watched the 4min. video of RE4 that's recently came out ( with the 8min. trailer )

And I'm happily surprised how good this game truely is.

I can't wait to see the rest of the enemy cast.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on March 31, 2004, 12:38:22 PM
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Originally posted by: kingvudu
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we're nothing like the Steve Erwin kind.
i was picturing drocodile dundee.  i don't even know who steve erwin is.



Ah Yes, When People stereo type aussies, they think of dear old "Paul Hogan"from the Crocodile Hunter Dundee movies.


Although I do know who Steve Irwin is, heh I get amused when he get's 'too close'
to venomous creatures.

lol Anti-venom Stat
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 31, 2004, 12:51:49 PM
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Out of curiousity Mouse_Clicker, Why do you have a dislike for "Real Player"?

Just rhetroctical question, and what media player do you prefer? ( if there's one )


Real Player has horrible audio quality, horrible video quality, and the most intrusive media player on the planet. The last time I actually used Real Player was on February 12th to watch my parents renew their wedding vowes while in Las Vegas- afterwards I promptly uninstalled it. I cannot remember a time where I have ever willing used Real Player.

I guess I'm pretty picky when it comes to media formats, though. I don't like Windows Media Player and I hate Quicktime (especially because it never works for more than a few days on any of my computers for some reason). I use a Quicktime Alternative (Media Player Classic) for .mov files and DivX for just about everything else.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on March 31, 2004, 01:03:19 PM
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Originally posted by: mouse_clicker
Quote

Out of curiousity Mouse_Clicker, Why do you have a dislike for "Real Player"?

Just rhetroctical question, and what media player do you prefer? ( if there's one )


Real Player has horrible audio quality, horrible video quality, and the most intrusive media player on the planet. The last time I actually used Real Player was on February 12th to watch my parents renew their wedding vowes while in Las Vegas- afterwards I promptly uninstalled it. I cannot remember a time where I have ever willing used Real Player.

I guess I'm pretty picky when it comes to media formats, though. I don't like Windows Media Player and I hate Quicktime (especially because it never works for more than a few days on any of my computers for some reason). I use a Quicktime Alternative (Media Player Classic) for .mov files and DivX for just about everything else.


When you say "Intrusive" do you mean like Adware/spyware? if so then that is crap, I really hate that Junk. Especially Kazaa. I use Kazaa lite++ ( no adware/spyware )

hey Mouse what are some of your Favourite PC games? if you have any?

I love Warcraft III & Frozen Throne.

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 31, 2004, 01:08:13 PM
Ok, what the hell?  This is for Resident Evil 4 discussion only...Take all that other stuff and use the pm's!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 31, 2004, 01:11:01 PM
We've only seen the official *teaser* trailer.  We've yet to see how good the game truly is.


I still think the lighting on the villagers is still "off."  As they hold a torch, the upper portions of the body *should* be noticeably illuminated, not "OH I'm just a torch floating amongst pitch black darkness," as if the torch flame didn't give off any light, or if the developers made the intensity of the light unreasonably low.  If there was a brighter light-source shining towards the game camera, then the "blacked-out" villager lighting would be logical.

[after reviewing the trailer...]

HOLY CRAP, the lighting *DOES* make some sense, yet not.  In the outdoor night sequences, Leon's back is illuminated regardless of the lighting conditions of the environment, as if there's a "camera crew" behind him with a light shining above and to the left of him.  This closer light source would cause distant objects to appear darker since our eyes would adjust themselves to the brightness of the more direct, more intense light source, like how it's harder to see in the dark while driving when headlights from oncoming traffic shine directly at you.

The new question is, where the hell did this "camera crew" light come from?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on March 31, 2004, 01:33:33 PM
perhaps leon is a part of the new season of survivor.  a camera crew follows him around, taping everything he does, but they're not allowed to play an active roll in events.  if this is the case, i'm really looking forward to the 1-on-1 confessions, where leon talks directly to the camera about things we just saw/did.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 31, 2004, 01:43:13 PM
....: "Leon, did you... you know, with Claire?"

Leon: "...... No comment...."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Leon: "CRIKEY!  Did you see THAT!?  The fangs on thAt little guy wur HUMONGOUS!"
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on March 31, 2004, 04:08:12 PM
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Originally posted by: Zero_Plague
Yep, I'm also from Australia... but akdaman1 was quite right on how not many people seem to like Australians.
Hopefully your not focusing on the stereotypical Australian... because we're nothing like the Steve Erwin kind.
In fact its quite rare that you run into someone down here that is actually... an Australian with Aussie background.

ahahahahahahahahahaha..............the Steve Erwin kind!

Yeah, he's right..........most Australian (you can me Aussie, I don't mind) are not like that; the outback/bush type.  You people get influenced by TV too much these days.



Oh ya.....back on topic............RE4 video blew me away.  A year ago, I was slighty interested in the game.  When Capcom showed they changed the game to mainly outdoors and reading IGNs preview, I became more interested.  Now, holy c-sticks, I want now!  I really like the boss battle on the boat in the lake.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Draygaia on April 01, 2004, 01:00:35 PM
http://media.cube.ign.com/media/015/015821/vids_1.html

It looks so damn fantastic and seems it plays a whole hell lot of fun.  I still think the enemies are zombies but in a different way.  More like zombies from the living rather from the dead.  Its also the first time I seen a totally different engine in action from RE.  I have heard things about what the gameplay is like but I always thought it would still be the same but more accesible and the video scraps whatever I thought.  The RE atmosphere is still there and does what looks like a better job of the camera than ED.  I hope there will be times Leon does experience insanity because it looks like they can add something like it and then you'll have pschological thriller and survival horror.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 01, 2004, 01:12:56 PM
Nah.  Gameplay's different, controls are different.  RE4/ED's cameras cannot be compared validly.  RE4's camera is rather "STUCK," from the looks of the video.  It's much more like P.N.03's camera in that sense (Shinji Mikami's previously worked title).
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on April 01, 2004, 06:59:57 PM
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Originally posted by: Draygaia
http://media.cube.ign.com/media/015/015821/vids_1.html
I hope there will be times Leon does experience insanity because it looks like they can add something like it and then you'll have pschological thriller and survival horror.


It might possibly work... but I don't really think that a sanity meter would fit in well with Resident Evil at all. Afterall, the sanity is best kept with Eternal Darkness as it suits more of a psychological horror game with ghosts and the supernatural. Resident Evil and Biohazard should just be kept strictly to science. (Genetic structure, viral chemicals etc.)
Besides, Leon has seen all the living dead (And other Hellish creations), so he would be used to all this stuff... therefore not needing a sanity meter.
It might work if we play as another character (For example, that young girl that Leon keeps the picture of).
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Draygaia on April 02, 2004, 11:49:06 AM
Or if maybe Leon was like Cloud (FFVII) and all his problems related to science and ancients.  It doesn't have to have magic, ghosts, artifacts, etc  It could be drugs, infection, some monster's mind affecting eyes, etc  My idea is if the insanity was supposed to be experienced and it really depends on your actions how you experience the insanity.  Nothing like ED were you have to fill up your sanity bar all the time and just worry about keeping it real.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on April 02, 2004, 07:02:10 PM
Nah the insanity bar doesnt fit in here. Its not needed.

Im wondering if Chris and Claire will make an appearance in this.

What do you all think ? Will they?



P.S - Zer0 Plauge - Call me ASAP.

P.P.S.S - sorry bout my other P.S but MSN is down and he wouldnt notice a PM. Dont mind me.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on April 03, 2004, 12:29:35 AM
Well, if Wesker is going to be in this... then there is quite a chance that Chris will be. I'm not too sure on Claire... although the epilogue of Code Veronica kind of hints that they are going to stay together. It'd be interesting to see Leon and Claire meet up again... and as well as Chris finally meeting Leon.

Hopefully, one of the characters are going to die. There are a little too many main characters... and some need to be killed. I'm hoping we get to see the last of Rebecca Chambers... as well finally seeing Chris confron Wesker and kill him off.
Although he's a great villain... their rivalry has gone on for too long, and it really needs to end. Might be interesting if we actually don't get the ending we expected, and might see Wesker kill Chris instead?

Whatever the matter... a character needs to be finished off.

By the way, I would of called you if I had seen the message earlier... but i'm not sure if it's too late now. I'll just speak to you tomorrow.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on April 03, 2004, 04:19:05 AM
are we really supposed to believe that after six years, leon has never gotten around to meeting chris?  it doesn't seem entirely believable.  you'd think chris would want to meet the man who saved his sister's life.  or that claire would want to introduce leon to chris, since they have the same ultimate goal in life.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on April 03, 2004, 01:00:04 PM
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Originally posted by: kingvudu
are we really supposed to believe that after six years, leon has never gotten around to meeting chris?  it doesn't seem entirely believable.  you'd think chris would want to meet the man who saved his sister's life.  or that claire would want to introduce leon to chris, since they have the same ultimate goal in life.


Who knows they might have met in-beetween the 6 years. ( Low Piano Music ) DEN DEN DE DENNNNN
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Draygaia on April 03, 2004, 01:44:01 PM
I think the story of that has been revealed in the RE FPS games for the PSX.  I think so.  Either that or they aren't related.  Also I thougth the game's creators said it was shortly after RE2.  Is 6 years considered the right term to use "shortly" maybe I don't know.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on April 04, 2004, 01:22:54 PM
All games in the Resident Evil saga are all related to each other, even if they are considered "Side-Stories" to other people.
I'm not sure if I had this discussion on these boards or reH... but the term "Side-Story" doesn't mean that you'll know the whole Resident Evil plot by playing through the numbered games.
All games relate to the story, no matter what... although Resident Evil: Gaiden is somewhat debatable.

For example, Resident Evil: Code Veronica (x) is considered a "Side-Story", but to be honest, it's story is one of the most vital out of the series.
As well as Resient Evil: Dead Aim. Again, its considered a "Side-Story", but in fact, it is a vital game needed to know the plot of Resident Evil.

As for myself, I never relate non-numbered Resident Evil games as "Side-Stories".
All are vital, and all are needed.

Gun Survivor 4, or Dead Aim, does take place between the times of Resident Evil 2 and Resident Evil 4 in 2002, so I guess you can kind of call that filling in the gap... but then again, it doesn't really tell us the exact position and status of Leon Kennedy or the other Resident Evil characters.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: scooter411 on April 08, 2004, 01:04:27 PM
this game looks simply amazing.  the graphics look almost as good (if not better) than the remake of the original, and if the graphics are that good, and yet the camera is not stuck, you know something good is going on there.  i like the idea of driving things in this one, cuz runnin over zombies is my favorite past time.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on April 08, 2004, 02:54:26 PM
Am I the only who wants Capcom to make this game look a little more colorful ala RE 2, 3, and CV?  The remake, 0, and this one's color looks very dull.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on April 08, 2004, 05:23:15 PM
MGS had a dark color palette that I thought was very appropriate. The brown color scheme of this game, in my opinion, works well with the olden town.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on April 08, 2004, 06:06:09 PM
Well if we had red, pink and blue then we might as well re-name it Resident Joe.

P.s - That Joe is for Viewtiful Joe
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on April 09, 2004, 03:39:40 AM
Heh. I caught on, akdaman. The P.S. really isn't necessary on these boards. I'd guess that most people here have played it and know that pink is sexy because of it. (You know it's true. )
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 09, 2004, 10:51:42 AM
Pink is not sexy on a speedo on He-Man.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on April 09, 2004, 12:31:23 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
Pink is not sexy on a speedo on He-Man.


It is on me.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ib2kool4u912 on April 09, 2004, 12:33:07 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
Pink is not sexy on a speedo on He-Man.

Bill might disagree with you on that one.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 09, 2004, 03:28:44 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: akdaman1
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
Pink is not sexy on a speedo on He-Man.


It is on me.


You're not He-Man.  I don't know if that's for better or worse.
Maybe I should keep my mouth shut, or was that hands tied?  or stop thinking?


I also just got my copy of May 2004 Famitsu Wave DVD.  My precious....
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 12, 2004, 08:47:38 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: ib2kool4u912
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
Pink is not sexy on a speedo on He-Man.

Bill might disagree with you on that one.

Dude, He-man isn't cute!  Only cute guys for me, and never think otherwise!  O_O

Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on April 12, 2004, 03:50:18 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: akdaman1
Well if we had red, pink and blue then we might as well re-name it Resident Joe.

P.s - That Joe is for Viewtiful Joe


No offense, but that is one of the, if not the most, dumbest thing I've ever read.


 
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on April 12, 2004, 05:49:09 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Myxtika1 Azn
Quote

Originally posted by: akdaman1
Well if we had red, pink and blue then we might as well re-name it Resident Joe.

P.s - That Joe is for Viewtiful Joe


No offense, but that is one of the, if not the most, dumbest thing I've ever read.




Only because it was aimed over at your post or because you actually thought it was dumb? If that's the case, you need to read more.

Anyhow, going back onto topic... me and an online friend just had an interesting theory on what virus Mr. Wesker is actually infected with.
I doubt it'll be correct... as he is only processing really slow through the stages of mutation, hence, the yellow-brown eyes.

But we just need to look farther into the matter, and if it seems to be what I'm expecting, then I'll be sure to post his theory up on here. I just need a clear picture of the scene in which I want to examine.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on April 12, 2004, 08:34:02 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Zero_Plague

Only because it was aimed over at your post or because you actually thought it was dumb? If that's the case, you need to read more.


Only because it made no sense at all.  If that was an attempt at a joke, I must have missed the humor in it.  If that's the case,  then there are a bunch of other games I own that should be renamed.

For instance, Zelda the Joe Waker, Zelda: The Ocarina of Joe, Street Fighter Joe (this might make sense), Beyond Good and Joe, Grandia Joe, Shenmue Joe, Castelvania: The Symphony of the Joe.

Anyways....  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 12, 2004, 08:47:23 PM
Funny stuff!

"Give me the Triforce of Courage!!"

"F-You!! MACH SPEED!" POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW! ***
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on April 12, 2004, 08:51:21 PM
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Originally posted by: Myxtika1 Azn
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Originally posted by: Zero_Plague

Only because it was aimed over at your post or because you actually thought it was dumb? If that's the case, you need to read more.


Only because it made no sense at all.



Well, it seemed to make sense to the rest of us.
And trust me, it isn't coincidence that your the only one who had something negative to say about it. It was only because that the post stated the member's own opinion, yet you disagreed with it, therefore making a post that wasn't positive to that member.

Everybody else seemed to of found it to make sense, regardless of whether it was stupid or not. So my point is that people have different opinions. Keep yours to yourself, or express them in a way thats not going to make other members start a debate.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 13, 2004, 02:28:23 PM
BTW, my DivX encode of the Resident Evil 4 trailer is finished.  If there's someone who wants a direct link to a copy of it for the purpose of sharing it or hosting it off their own webspace (this DOES NOT mean you get to share the direct link I give you) feel free to email me or PM me.

It's cleaner, clearer (not murky) than last week's trailer (the one that also had Killer 7), looks better than Fileshack's current copy, and is properly deinterlaced and properly cropped so the in-game footage takes up the 640x480 image space as it should.  Other details:  3min 54sec, 54.1 MB, 640x480 DivX 5.1.1 format.

The Killer 7 trailer will be done encoding shortly.  I've got class now, so I'll be back in a couple hours.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 13, 2004, 06:28:20 PM
Killer 7 done encoding.

Time to checkout the Xenosaga Ep. II trailer...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on April 14, 2004, 04:11:03 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Myxtika1 Azn
Quote

Originally posted by: akdaman1
Well if we had red, pink and blue then we might as well re-name it Resident Joe.

P.s - That Joe is for Viewtiful Joe


No offense, but that is one of the, if not the most, dumbest thing I've ever read.


None taken.

THats sorta the impression you supposed to get off my jokes.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 14, 2004, 05:18:09 PM
ok, here's my build of the Resi4 trailer:
http://www.fileshack.com/file.x?fid=4803

I think this is the best looking copy at a reasonable filesize for a so-called "high-quality" encode.  I heard IGN Insider had a 100MB+ copy, which I think is rediculously huge and painful if it's Quicktime -- they might as well have uploaded the original DVD rip:  the *.VOB file I have for this trailer was just 134MB.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on April 15, 2004, 06:24:28 AM
last night i started playing through REmake again ... this time with the gernade launcher with unlimited ammo.  i must say, it takes the freakiness out of the game completely.  here i am, walking down a dark hallway, and suddenly

* bang bang *
*CRAAAAAAAAASH!!! *

a zombie bursts through the window and starts lurching towards me.

* KA - BOOM!! *

i blow the crap out of him with a gernade launcher.  a zombie just doesn't have the same scare factor when you're packin' that much heat.  it makes me a little worried that re4 isn't going to have nearly the same scare-factor because (judging from what we've seen so far) leon have access to greater abundence of powerful weapons (at least compared to past games).
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 15, 2004, 08:30:10 AM
That is made up by having more enemies coming at you at once...The fact that you are being overwhelmed is where the scare factor will come in...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: SearanoX on April 15, 2004, 11:11:13 AM
Quote

That is made up by having more enemies coming at you at once...The fact that you are being overwhelmed is where the scare factor will come in...

Exactly.  That, and the fact that the horror is more psychological than anything else.  Since there are apparently "normal" characters as well, you won't know who to trust.  I'd take that over cheap shock horror any day of the week.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on April 15, 2004, 12:26:34 PM
Actually Mikami said this game wont be as scary as previous Resident Evil games. He said this was more action then horror.

I dont have the link buts its an interview on cube-europe.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on April 15, 2004, 02:36:23 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: akdaman1
Actually Mikami said this game wont be as scary as previous Resident Evil games. He said this was more action then horror.

I dont have the link buts its an interview on cube-europe.



It'll probablly have more action then horror, but that doesn't mean that the game won't be scary.  Even reviewers put captions under the pictures, and a few of them talked about how the 'chainsaw massacre' lookalike guy brang in a lot of heart pounding suspense.
Pretty much like the crimson heads in the Resident Evil Remake.  They won't stop running after you unless you unload your bullets into them, and that is exactly the same with the Leatherface type enemy.

Just the intelligence of the villagers and the way they just trap you inside a house, forcing you to barricade yourself in brings a whole new meaning to horror.  Of course, it isn't going to be the norma Resident Evil game where the music just sends shivers down your spine... waitng till something jumps out.
This is going to be intense running from the enemies 24/7, and this is what you would get extreme panic from.

Put it this way.
If you beat the Remake a couple of times, you would basically know off by heart where all the scare scenes are, and it would be incredibly predictible.  But with Resident Evil 4, each time you play it, depending on which options you take (For instance, running to a house to barricade yourself in, or just running around the town until you find safety), the game will be a lot more scarier, and will relive that scare factor time and time again.

As we had read in a magazine, as Leon runs throughout the village, hundreds of maniac villagers chase him.
I actually think that the player is going to have a time limit on how long to survive for.  Say if it was 30 minutes for instance... Leon would be running around the town, barracading himself in different locations until that time limit runs out, which leads to the cut-scene of the church bell ringing and the villagers dropping their weapons. (As that is what we heard in the multiple reviews.)
If that is the case, then each time you play it, you can run a different route then the previous time, barricading yourself in different houses and barns then what you had done the time before.  It will be incredible fun to replay over and over again, and like I said, it will relive the scare factor as you don't know what's coming at you due to choosing a different path.



By the way, Professional 666...
If it isn't too much of a hassle, would it be alright if you could hand me over a link for your Resident Evil 4 trailer?
Thanks in advance.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 15, 2004, 06:28:09 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: akdaman1
Actually Mikami said this game wont be as scary as previous Resident Evil games. He said this was more action then horror.

I dont have the link buts its an interview on cube-europe.

He said the exact opposite, saying that the members of his team have been scared working on it(slight exaggeration, I'm sure, but it makes its point)
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 15, 2004, 06:43:59 PM
Zero_Plague:  Be my guest.  I've sent you a PM.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 15, 2004, 07:34:13 PM
Here's a couple observations from watching the trailer:

1)  The scene where Leon kicks off the ladder was not continuous.  The first scene showed the chainsaw guy climbing up.  Suddenly, there's a scene change, and we see the chainsaw guy falling down well before Leon is able to kick off the ladder.  There's obviously a few frames of missing footage, and I assume Leon probably shot this guy in the head to shake him off.  With that, I can't readily conclude that Leon can kick the ladder off while someone's still climbing it.

2)  The lake scene shows the RE4 graphics engine has real-time, reactive hydrodynamics (think Wave Race: Blue Storm).  As the boat and the monster tread over the water you see the nice foamy splash textures kicking up, but in addition to that the lake surface waves and deforms as the boat and monster cut the surface.  Considering this a action/adventure type game, I'm really impressed it has this feature (well-executed too) at all.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on April 15, 2004, 09:28:43 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Bill
Quote

Originally posted by: akdaman1
Actually Mikami said this game wont be as scary as previous Resident Evil games. He said this was more action then horror.

I dont have the link buts its an interview on cube-europe.

He said the exact opposite, saying that the members of his team have been scared working on it(slight exaggeration, I'm sure, but it makes its point)


He said it will be scary but the focus is more on Action. Zero_Plauge will back me up on this. Remember the interview with the noodles and soup?

CHeck your PM Zero
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on April 15, 2004, 10:00:28 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: akdaman1
Quote

Originally posted by: Bill
Quote

Originally posted by: akdaman1
Actually Mikami said this game wont be as scary as previous Resident Evil games. He said this was more action then horror.

I dont have the link buts its an interview on cube-europe.

He said the exact opposite, saying that the members of his team have been scared working on it(slight exaggeration, I'm sure, but it makes its point)


He said it will be scary but the focus is more on Action. Zero_Plauge will back me up on this. Remember the interview with the noodles and soup?

CHeck your PM Zero



Yes, I do remember the noodles and soup interview with Shinji, but heaven forbid... I couldn't remember if it was more noodles then soup or more soup then noodles.  But we best change the subject, because every other members that reads this are going to think that we're insane.
Nevertheless, the game will be scary and that's that.

Anyway, I can't call you now.  Parents are on the phone, so I'll call you as soon as they get off.
By the way, Professional 666... the links worked great. Thanks for that.

Anyway, back onto topic with Resident Evil 4...
There has been quite some contreversy on whether the girl in the picture is Sherry Birkin or not.  According to Resident Evil 2, she was 12 around the time... making her around 18 in RE4.  Although, according to the timeline on the official Resident Evil website, it in fact says that Sherry is around 8-10 in Resident Evil 2... but from previous data in that timeline, it appears to be severly screwed up.
Now, as to Sherry being in that picture.... I doubt it.  BUT, I don't doubt her being in the game or having a few scenes in it.  IF Wesker happens to be in Resident Evil 4, then Sherry should be appearing in it, as well as Ada Wong... but I tend to think that she'll have more of a flashback and diary mention then a rather appearance in person to Resident Evil 4.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on April 16, 2004, 03:32:54 PM
Which picture is this ? I may of missed it.

Send us the link.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on April 16, 2004, 05:20:41 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: akdaman1
Which picture is this ? I may of missed it.

Send us the link.



Its in the trailer, and is the picture that Leon shows to that villager by the fireplace who soon goes psycho at him.  I'll try to find a link to the picture.  I'm pretty sure I have one somewhere...

Here it is:
Sherry Birkin?

I just played through Resident Evil 2 today, and realized how much more Sherry looks so similar to that girl in the picture.  Seeing that she should be 18 by now, she does fit the picture pretty well.  Guess we'll just have to wait and see.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: camaroman on April 16, 2004, 07:38:25 PM
I know this is off discussion but someone told me that RE 4 isnt a GC exclusive anymore.  I was just wondering if this was true?.  Any Help?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 16, 2004, 08:04:08 PM
Completely false, and someone was being wishful.  That latest trailer(s) list GameCube as the only platform for release.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on April 16, 2004, 08:05:55 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: camaroman
I know this is off discussion but someone told me that RE 4 isnt a GC exclusive anymore.  I was just wondering if this was true?.  Any Help?


It was a rumor quite a while back... and then it started to spread more and more until various websites, including IGN (I think) started posting articles on whether it may be true or not.  But it wasn't really something I bought into.  Besides, the graphical content was too enhanced for the PS2, so it would of taken work to even lower the pixel/polygon count, which Capcom never would of done.

Resident Evil 4 however, is very possible to be compatible with X-Box... but for Capcom to movie it to X-Box?  Extremely unlikely, and we probablly won't see it until another 100 years.  But to answer your question... it is a definent exclusive.  There is no way in hell it'll be moving to Sony or Microsoft now.

However, Resident Evil 5... has an extremely slim chance of making it onto the new Sony console... but most people doubt it.  It's more likely to move over to Nintendo's new console.


EDIT:  Heh... looks like Professional 666 beat me to it.  Anyway, take our word.  Its false.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on April 17, 2004, 06:52:57 AM
IGN has just mailed me about a new US trailer that Capcom had released recently.  I have yet to find out if it was the previous trailer we had seen before... but I'll be downloading it now.
Anyway, I really havve to get going.  I am so drunk, that I'm hardly able to type out this message and proof-read it.
I'll post the link tomorrow if I don't have a hangover.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 17, 2004, 09:59:58 AM
It's just a shortened, cut up, lower-quality version of the super-cool JPN trailer we've already seen, with all the JPN references converted/removed.  It also has some "hip" and "modern" music added over the rest of the audio, something like the commercialized rock music heard in the Remake's U.S. tv commercial.

Now, if someone wants a GOOD MPEG low-quality trailer, go here.
http://www.capcom.co.jp/bio4/movie/
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: wei803 on April 18, 2004, 08:37:22 PM
i wonder what kind of minigame we get this time after complete the game...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on April 18, 2004, 10:16:21 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: wei803
i wonder what kind of minigame we get this time after complete the game...


No doubt another sort of battle game like Resident Evil 2 or Resident Evil 3.  I'd imagine by recovering Shinji's watch in the game will allow you to unlock something or someone... although I think somewhere in an interview, Mikami clearly stated that he's watch is just being put in as a sort of cameo.  Similar to the numerous blocks of cheese you were able to find in Perfect Dark... only this time, you can actually obtain it.  Apart from that, it'd be pretty obvious that after there are also unlockable uniforms for various characters in the game.  Hopefully we won't get something like Leech Hunter again.  I admit, it wasn't bad... but I didn't really fancy the whole concept of finding objects in a mansion.

Anyway, I was just thinking about it today at school, and realized actually how close Resident Evil 4's release date for Japan is coming up to be.  I'd imagine that Japan will be getting it July-August, or there abouts.  Probablly even sooner... possibly in June... but that's being too genereous of Capcom.  Honestly, I think somewhere about late July/early August.  By roughly guessing, the U.S will probably be getting it around September-October (or whenever Winter is, which I believe is around that time anyway)... which then leaves us, Australia to recieve by early 2005 or POSSIBLY (I doubt it though) late December.

What really gets me wondering is how little we've seen of the game.  All the trailers, pictures and other media we've recieved from Capcom is only about one quater, or not even a quater into the game.  I just hope that this won't be as short as Resident Evil Zero.  The only reason I think that is because of the amount of unbelieveable graphics we've already seen.  But then again, I guess getting rid of FMV's will free up a lot of space.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: wei803 on April 18, 2004, 10:22:07 PM
i just hope the game will have longer gameplay... i'll die to wait for another few years for the sequel....

thinking bout the minigame, why cant they put the earlier "canceled" story into it? i think it would be cool to play like a short adventure. and i was a waste to just "delete" then isn't it?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on April 18, 2004, 10:24:10 PM
Quote

Anyway, I was just thinking about it today at school, and realized actually how close Resident Evil 4's release date for Japan is coming up to be. I'd imagine that Japan will be getting it July-August, or there abouts. Probablly even sooner... possibly in June... but that's being too genereous of Capcom.

Haha, i really doubt that. I'm thinking November, for Japan and the US. Who knows when the PAL version will arrive, i'm guessing some time between 2005 and 2007.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: wei803 on April 18, 2004, 10:36:44 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
Quote

Anyway, I was just thinking about it today at school, and realized actually how close Resident Evil 4's release date for Japan is coming up to be. I'd imagine that Japan will be getting it July-August, or there abouts. Probablly even sooner... possibly in June... but that's being too genereous of Capcom.

Haha, i really doubt that. I'm thinking November, for Japan and the US. Who knows when the PAL version will arrive, i'm guessing some time between 2005 and 2007.


i hope they wont take tat much of time, since it is just some signal translation. If they do it simultaneously with the US NTSC version... i think it should b out early 2005...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on April 18, 2004, 11:21:49 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: wei803
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
Quote

Anyway, I was just thinking about it today at school, and realized actually how close Resident Evil 4's release date for Japan is coming up to be. I'd imagine that Japan will be getting it July-August, or there abouts. Probablly even sooner... possibly in June... but that's being too genereous of Capcom.

Haha, i really doubt that. I'm thinking November, for Japan and the US. Who knows when the PAL version will arrive, i'm guessing some time between 2005 and 2007.


i hope they wont take tat much of time, since it is just some signal translation. If they do it simultaneously with the US NTSC version... i think it should b out early 2005...



...I think he was actually joking.... But in exaggeration, that does sound a lot like Capcom.  My guess will be wrong unless America receives it relatively close to the release of Biohazard 4... but I doubt it.  The again, it has happened in the past.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: wei803 on April 18, 2004, 11:31:43 PM
yeah true.
but Capcom always let me down.... especially with the "exclusive" things... from the dreamcast RE:CV age till now i never really trust their so call "exclusive only"... i hope they don't "toy" with release date this time.... anyway they just said winter release, can't blame them if they say any date...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on April 19, 2004, 02:27:53 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
Quote

Anyway, I was just thinking about it today at school, and realized actually how close Resident Evil 4's release date for Japan is coming up to be. I'd imagine that Japan will be getting it July-August, or there abouts. Probablly even sooner... possibly in June... but that's being too genereous of Capcom.




Yeah right ben. You wish. Try November being the earliest date for Biohazard. We will probaly get it around Febuary-April, no time earlier.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 22, 2004, 08:04:58 PM
I can imagine all these "big" Nintendo titles, scheduled for this year, announced to be DELAYED at E3.  Curses!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: wei803 on April 22, 2004, 09:20:04 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
I can imagine all these "big" Nintendo titles, scheduled for this year, announced to be DELAYED at E3.  Curses!


and they'll give lame excuse that they have better idea and want to improve the game...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 22, 2004, 11:46:08 PM
Indeed.  Leon will goto.... Space.  And he will fight... Leprechauns.

Samus will goto... South America.  She will fight... El Chupacabra Prime.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Krazie26 on April 23, 2004, 03:17:38 PM
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Krazie26 on April 23, 2004, 03:19:18 PM
*Whisper to self* Oh no! I think it was leaked.....

Hey 666.....how did you find that info....it wasn't leaked was it? What? You say you don't know? Come over here will you.

*pulls out.....*cough* gun *cough*....and leads 666 into a dark corner.


*BAM*!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 23, 2004, 03:38:51 PM
THANKS TO THE T-VIRUS I LIVE AGAIN.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on May 01, 2004, 02:29:46 AM
Okay, I haven't been on for quite some time now thanks to Hitman 2... but since I've been gone, I believe that the official Resident Evil 4 website has been created, all in English.  Of course, it doesn't include any more detail or information when compared to the Biohazard 4 website, but still, it is worth a look.  I'm not too sure if it is only my computer, but it also seems that some of the text is actually unreadable as it is behind pictures.

Anyhow, I'm off again.  Probablly won't be back for quite some time.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: StRaNgE on May 04, 2004, 09:41:26 AM
just watched the new footage, wow is all i can say. i really was anxious for this game but now it is top spot on my must have list.

although the chainsaw guy does not look like leatherface like some spoke of before.

he has a burlap sack on his face which  reminds me of something else. some b movie horror i watched ages ago, but can not recall the name off hand.

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 04, 2004, 09:39:19 PM
Heh Friday the 13th II might ring some bells there. As Jason Vorhees also wore a burlap sack over his face, in III that's where he get's the Hockey Mask.

Other than that, I couldn't think of any movie refferences.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: StRaNgE on May 05, 2004, 09:27:33 AM
yes that does ring a bell,  and in 3-d  as well...

but i think it is even from a movie more grade B then that. if only i could remember. oh well. lol
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on May 12, 2004, 12:37:25 AM
Well, the new trailer and pictures look simply amazing.  I just love how this so called "villagers" treat the innocent humans.  Burning them in fires and throwing them into the lake just adds to the beautiful fear of this game.  Although I am rather interested to find out what these "monks" actually turn out to be.  According to Capcom, we all know that they've said that there are no zombies in this game... but them monks with the burnt facial features look incredibly like the undead.

I just cannot wait to find out the story of this game.  What adds to the anticipation is the clueless minds that we all have right now trying to understand what is happening in the actuall plot of the game.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on May 12, 2004, 12:46:21 AM
Yes this game does look amazing.

Although I am sorta annoyed that no new footage was shown. Nothing too new was shown. Although I REALLY love the villigers dumping innocents in the river. When I saw that for the first time I GASPd. It really seems to be stronger in story then any previous RE game.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 12, 2004, 01:14:44 AM
The appearance of the president's daughter is also slightly updated.  Sexy hair.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 13, 2004, 05:04:30 PM
More like Sherry, am I right?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on May 13, 2004, 05:52:08 PM
And she ducks when Leon shoots.  Good girl!

Here's your doggie biscuit.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 13, 2004, 06:19:32 PM
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Originally posted by: AiAi
And she ducks when Leon shoots.  Good girl!

Here's your doggie biscuit.


HAHAHHAHAHAHAAH
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 13, 2004, 06:32:16 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: AiAi
And she ducks when Leon shoots.  Good girl!

Here's your doggie biscuit.

And you say you worry about me due to my latest artwork...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 13, 2004, 07:06:48 PM
Let her be a good girl.  Leon will teach her how to "use" the "herbs" effectively.

I'll make her carry all my crap like I did with Rebecca.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 13, 2004, 08:47:46 PM
lol, she may take a load off and start running and screaming from you pro...... ( She'll be like he's da bad man..... a very bad man!!! )

Anyway, does anyone know why I try to link an image ( for my avatar )
it won't show in view?

It worked before along time ago, I just had to drop it as it was a lil big.

Now with Zelda...... I must have an Avatar, and I have my site host it.... but it won't show up on PGC. Any reason why?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 13, 2004, 08:54:51 PM
Maybe your site doesn't allow direct linking?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 13, 2004, 09:15:54 PM
it should, as it worked before. And it's a JPG formatt, I could do gif. but neither seem to show.

Can anyone host my avatar? as I don't get why it won't work.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 13, 2004, 09:26:23 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: MysticGohan24
lol, she may take a load off and start running and screaming from you pro...... ( She'll be like he's da bad man..... a very bad man!!! )


Well I guess I'll just have to KICK ASS and keep her in-line with my BOOM STICK!!

Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on May 13, 2004, 10:34:13 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
Quote

Originally posted by: MysticGohan24
lol, she may take a load off and start running and screaming from you pro...... ( She'll be like he's da bad man..... a very bad man!!! )


Well I guess I'll just have to KICK ASS and keep her in-line with my BOOM STICK!!


Just like Reggie ey

Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 14, 2004, 09:03:02 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: akdaman1
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
Quote

Originally posted by: MysticGohan24
lol, she may take a load off and start running and screaming from you pro...... ( She'll be like he's da bad man..... a very bad man!!! )


Well I guess I'll just have to KICK ASS and keep her in-line with my BOOM STICK!!


Just like Reggie ey


I thought it was Bruce Campbell

Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on May 14, 2004, 03:07:06 PM
Bruce Cambell ?

Isnt that Supermans alter ego?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 14, 2004, 05:41:36 PM
lol, NO!!!  That's Clark Kent Bruce Campbell is the star of Army of Drakness and was in the Herclues/Xena series along other movies and roles. He's cool.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on May 14, 2004, 07:47:56 PM
Oh ...LOL. sorry. It sounds like a superhero name. I have heard of Bruce Cambell but dont exaclty know who he is.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 14, 2004, 08:06:23 PM
He's Brisco County, Jr.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MeaN on May 14, 2004, 09:15:59 PM
I opened a new thread about this because I didn't realize there is an official one about RE4. Here's what I had to say since I guess it'll get deleted :

FOR  THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE STILL WONDERING WHERE THE STORY TAKES PLACE...

A lot of places are being mentioned (South America, Europe...) but I can guarantee you that it's in Spain, Europe (I wanna make that clear because some people think that Spain is in South America  I'm originally from Spain myself and I was SHOCKED when I saw the 2 cops (PN - Policia Nacional), with their badges and Spain's flag on their uniforms. And, a very important clue... when the 1st one speaks he says "coño !", that's a 100% Spaniard word (even though I've heard some dominicans and puerto ricans saying that too... ALSO, could you hear flamenco music at the beginning ??? That's 125% (LOL) music from Spain. What I found very strange is the villagers' accent. They sounded like Mexicans. You can probably compare Spain's and Mexico's Spanish accents with England's and USA's English accents, same language but they sound way too different. Capcom probably thinks that Spain is a small island in Mexico... LOFL !!!

And that's it !!! I wanted to say hi but I didn't want to open a thread just for that so I thought of some kind of interesting topic and this was what I came up with. What a week...

 
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 14, 2004, 09:19:30 PM
That post looks familiar....... I know you
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: StRaNgE on May 14, 2004, 10:24:11 PM
Bruce cambell stared in Evil Dead, Evil Dead 2 and Army of darkness (evil dead 3)

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 14, 2004, 11:10:23 PM
Thank you MeaN, you've broadened my mind, and refreshed me of everything I've learned in 1st-year California high school Spanish class.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on May 15, 2004, 02:45:57 AM
MASSIVE RE4 IGN update.

They have all these gameplay vids up. There AWSOME.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Shift Key on May 15, 2004, 02:59:17 AM
Ak , its AWESOME! You fail English. Repeat the Third Grade. Donot pass go. Donot collect $200.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on May 15, 2004, 03:04:51 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Shifty
Ak , its AWESOME! You fail English. Repeat the Third Grade.  Donot pass go. Donot  collect $200.


Go back to third grade and eat some pelican wings.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Shift Key on May 15, 2004, 03:14:31 AM
Ahahahaha, you obviously don't remember cloudstrife111! Get a life.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on May 15, 2004, 03:32:43 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Shifty
Ahahahaha, you obviously don't remember cloudstrife111! Get a life.


I do remember Cloud? Why? Is that an Insult? I challenge you to a duel ( Just watched Simpsons episode with Zorro)
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on May 15, 2004, 04:12:29 AM
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Originally posted by: akdaman1
Quote

Originally posted by: Shifty
Ahahahaha, you obviously don't remember cloudstrife111! Get a life.


I do remember Cloud? Why? Is that an Insult? I challenge you to a duel ( Just watched Simpsons episode with Zorro)



I'm afraid of the simpsons That's why I prefer Futurama and Family Guy. Something that's actually funny and not repetive.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 15, 2004, 07:38:24 AM
cloudstrife111: "i donot' know super i just want mario 2 to work"

Maybe that should help you...Now get back on topic!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MeaN on May 16, 2004, 02:22:34 PM
I've just read this in today's RE preview :

"Another tipoff to this fact can be found in the pesetas (Spanish coins) that Leon occasionally finds among the usual ammunition"

Spain haven't used pesetas in a few years now, it's Euros now !!!! Capcom, you should do some research... In which year does the story take place ???  I'm thinking that might be my answer... anyone ???
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 16, 2004, 05:51:47 PM
It takes place 6 years after Resident Evil 1/2/3 which take place in 1998, so 2004

But the place where the game takes place looks pretty derelict and out in the middle of nowhere, which makes sense that the people there wouldn't have the latest monetary updates...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 18, 2004, 11:03:33 AM
"We don't want YOUR kind around here!"

"It's a WITCH!! BUURRRRRNN HERR!  BURRRNN HER!!!"

"She turned me into a newt!"
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Shift Key on May 22, 2004, 10:08:39 PM
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Spain haven't used pesetas in a few years now, it's Euros now !!!! Capcom, you should do some research... In which year does the story take place ??? I'm thinking that might be my answer... anyone ???

So what? Its doesn't need to be politically corrent. And its coins that you collect also (I don't know if there are Euro coins - there probably are, but meh). Things shouldn't be taken so literally. Just enjoy the game when you get it.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on May 24, 2004, 12:56:59 AM
I dont think it matters about the currency. BUT how would you use it? Buy weapons? Items? All this doesnt seem like RE 4. Im sure that Capcom wont have just thrown it in there for like no reason. There must be some use of it.

Im thinking that its for some sort of bonus unlockable. Get 5000 pestas and unlock survival mode or something like that.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on May 24, 2004, 01:12:23 AM
I'm going on a mad RE-binge, and I'm also trying to piece every last part of the plot (that I can) together, Gaiden and Dead Aim and all.

First things first, the girl running around in RE4 is definitely the president's daughter - in the E3 demo, it says it's six years after the Raccoon City mayhem, Leon works for the feds now and is looking for the president's missing daughter. He then shows a photograph to some crazy spaniard that then tries to chop off his face, but er, it's the same girl in the screens, and unless Sherry was adopted or Billy Birkins' mutated and incinerated corpse was elected to office, it's definitely not Sherry.

I have some theories about who is behind what in RE4, and I think we should have a storyline thread.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 24, 2004, 01:48:38 AM
It's funny how only 1 U.S. agent is sent to perform recon AND hostage rescue on the president's daughter.  She must not be all that important to the president after all.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on May 24, 2004, 02:10:03 AM
Uh, there were two other agents along with Leon who were immediately killed, and I presume others working elsewhere, but the bridge into town gets knocked out in the true videogame style.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Shift Key on May 24, 2004, 02:14:39 AM
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Uh, there were two other agents along with Leon who were immediately killed, and I presume others working elsewhere, but the ONLY bridge into town gets knocked out in the true videogame style.
That old chestnut ^_^

Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on May 24, 2004, 10:50:32 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: S-U-P-E-R
Uh, there were two other agents along with Leon who were immediately killed, and I presume others working elsewhere, but the bridge into town gets knocked out in the true videogame style.


Those 2 werent agents. They were just there to drop Leon off. Not sure what youd call them but Im positive that its not an agent.

Also I wont mind if you made a storyline thread. The story is way too complicated for just 1 thread.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on May 24, 2004, 11:02:34 AM
My memory might be a bit fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure they are, I think they had matching dark blue hats and coats, and it was like they were just planning on making a quick stop at the village.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on May 25, 2004, 11:26:49 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: S-U-P-E-R
My memory might be a bit fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure they are, I think they had matching dark blue hats and coats, and it was like they were just planning on making a quick stop at the village.


Yes but they were speaking a different language. I doubt Leon would be sent in there with guys that spoke a different language.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 25, 2004, 11:29:25 AM
They could be foreign agents...*shrugs*
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 25, 2004, 12:06:52 PM
The CIA has multilingual agents all over the world.  It's a necessity.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on May 25, 2004, 12:22:44 PM
The said at least a few things in english in the demo, before they got owned by the villagers. Like the "What was that?" after Leon sassed them or something. The show was too noisy to pick up any accents though.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on May 25, 2004, 09:35:35 PM
You played the game right?

I just want to know 2 things.

1.When I was watching the videos of RE4 I was having difficulty seeing the enemies in the distance. Maybe it was the quality of the videos, I dont know. Was it hard to spot the enemies in the distance?

2.How is the aiming? When watching the videos the players almost never hit the zombie on thier first shot. Are the aiming controls are bit loose or something?

If you can answer these or know someone who can then it would be greatly apreccitated.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 25, 2004, 09:50:50 PM
I hope we get the option of inverted Y-axis aiming.

S-u-p-e-r, your RE story thread's going down the gutter.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on May 25, 2004, 10:05:56 PM
Quote

1.When I was watching the videos of RE4 I was having difficulty seeing the enemies in the distance. Maybe it was the quality of the videos, I dont know. Was it hard to spot the enemies in the distance?

Nah, it was pretty easy to see guys.

Quote

2.How is the aiming? When watching the videos the players almost never hit the zombie on thier first shot. Are the aiming controls are bit loose or something?

It was really hard to see the laser pointer of the gun on those TVs.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on May 27, 2004, 04:25:14 PM
ign have a new re4 movie up that's supposedly 7 minutes long and shows all sorts of new stuff.  but you need to be an insider to download it.    has anyone seen it anywhere else?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 27, 2004, 09:48:29 PM
More so-so quality video that runs on junk software, that requires a paid prescription?

I wish Nintendo Power just offered DVDs like Famitsu Wave DVD.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: WuTangTurtle on May 28, 2004, 08:37:12 PM
1.  Aiming is kinda loose and strange the first couple minutes but after that aiming gets easy.

2.  I'm not sure about the new video but try www.gametrailers.com.  they have tons of videos.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ghostVi on May 30, 2004, 06:56:34 AM
Low-res version of IGN's video is available for non-insiders also (in 3 parts):

IGN RE4 Videos page

It does show some new places indeed. It's actually shows just a more skilled player, as opposed to all the E3 movies available until now (which were definitely lame, player-skill-wise) And yes it's fun to watch.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vixtro on June 06, 2004, 06:28:36 AM
i got a good vid of re4 and it looks amazing but the thing that gets me is the zombies? they have changed into zoms that run, jump, use weapons and communicate with each other kinda similar to the remake of dawn of the dead. i hope capcom know what there doing cuz i relly like the old zoms that slumber around not stopping till they get there dinner of human flesh (not tacky b-movie "brains")

well capcom dun a lotta great fantastic games and playing one of there latest right now - steel battalion and its awsome to say the least so capcom i'm counting on u  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 06, 2004, 02:21:55 PM
They're not zombies.  Capcom knows what they're doing.
Because Zombies are slow is the reason why we're able to take a step back and dogdge their grasps, save lots of ammo, and beat the Remake in under 3 hours with Chris to get the Rocket Launcher.

Slow zombies either die of hunger, or burn in a fiery explosion.  Whichever comes first.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on June 06, 2004, 04:50:11 PM
Yeah, I'm liking the whole NOT slow, rotting, stupid zombie thing. It will definitely be more challenging and scarier. I mean zombies capable of intelligent thought other than "BRAAAAIIINNNSSSS!!!!" Yeah, it's gonna be cool. Is anyone else reminded a little bit of Snake Eater when they see screens and videos of this game? Could just be me, but I keep associating the two.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vixtro on June 07, 2004, 12:15:12 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
They're not zombies.  Capcom knows what they're doing.
Because Zombies are slow is the reason why we're able to take a step back and dogdge their grasps, save lots of ammo, and beat the Remake in under 3 hours with Chris to get the Rocket Launcher.

Slow zombies either die of hunger, or burn in a fiery explosion.  Whichever comes first.


WHAT!!!!!!!! there not zoms, but resident evil is all about zombies i dont get it? in my opinion resident evil should have just been zombies but lots of them. so are they just crazed villigers form like that film "the crazies" or so my mate keeps telling me lol

oh yea, zombies dont die of hunger because even if they do eat it doesnt nurish them because there digestive system is dead so instead they would jus die of decay in about a month (or as the resident evil film sais "they have a small electrical charge to the brain that takes a month to disapate")

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 07, 2004, 02:54:02 PM
Zombies die when the connection to the brain is broken(this is the spinal column)...So if they are not killed by a survivor, they would eventually "rot to death"...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 07, 2004, 04:21:43 PM
Resident Evil isn't about zombies, it's about being trapped in a crazy place under the threat of a biological disaster -- hence the original Japanse title:  BIOHAZARD.

The title "Resident Evil 4" actually makes sense now since it has "Evil Residents".  -- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

"the crazies" are the villagers from that aweful karate flick, GYMKATA.

Don't listen to the Resi film.

Is it feasible that Resi's zombies would be the exception to death-via-decay since it's the viri that keep the zombies alive and not the original human biological processes of the host?  So as along as virus is supported (human flesh, yum yum), which may keep the body's cells intact and functioning, the zombie can still be up-and-about?  Or will the body's cells simply decay to the point that the virus can no longer animate the body?

At the least, the Primogenitor/Progenitor "mother" virus kept Dr. Marcus alive for quite a while, while the Nemesis parasite kept Lisa Trevor alive for a long time as well.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 07, 2004, 04:28:22 PM
"Or will the body's cells simply decay to the point that the virus can no longer animate the body?"

That is most likely the case...Eventually muscle tissue would decay so much that it could no longer support the body...However, this is just the T-virus...The G-virus keeps tissue alive so organisms infected with it are exempt from this process...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: akdaman1 on June 07, 2004, 11:00:48 PM
unless the zombies become walking skeletons.

Anyway any new info about the storyline since E3?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 07, 2004, 11:45:11 PM
Hmmm,....

There seems to be a nice cache of WWII-era weaponry.

The Spaniard whom Leon meets with wields a pistol I can't name, but is from the war era.

Leon used what looks like a British Enfield or German Mauser sniper rifle.

Leon also uses a "rocket launcher" that looks like certain German-Nazi anti-tank weapons.

I'm not an expert on these things.  But I watch History Channel for fun like many.

~~~~~~

OMG!! SPENCER'S A NAZI HE'S BEEN DOING THE ZOMBIE THING SINCE THE WAR it's almost LIKE INDIANA JONES BUT WITH INDIANA LEON!.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vixtro on June 08, 2004, 12:56:04 AM
i dont think biohazard is as good a title as resident evil

biohazard - means a biological expirement gone wrong

resident evil - means a place that has evil in it

and if u really wanna know more about zombies and where the idea for them was most taken from to put in resident evil then watch George A. romero's "Dawn of the Dead" and "Day of the Dead"  but Day is better than Dawn for info on zoms cuz its got a scientist who finds stuff out about them as for Dawn.... Dawn is the better one cuz its got more action and zombies ripping ppl up lol

u can get the whole collection of
night of the living dead
dawn of the dead
day of the dead

on DVD and they are all 18 cert cuz of the major violence in them

FOR THE LAST TIME Professional 666........... ZOMBIES DO NOT GET ANYTHING OUT OF EATING ANYTHING CUZ ALL THERE INSIDES ARE DEAD SO IT WOULD JUST SIT IN THERE STOMACH DOING NOTHING
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on June 08, 2004, 07:12:30 AM
You can watch the original Night of the Living Dead on archive.org. Anyways, isn't that exactly what the resident evil series IS? A biologicial experiment gone HORRIBLY wrong? I like the word biohazard. Frankly I wish they'd kept it for the US, but RE is a good replacement.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vixtro on June 08, 2004, 11:58:19 AM
i never said resident evil wasnt a biohazard, i was just saying resident evil is better cuz its more original and the place has evil in it, well the zombies arnt really evil cuz there just acting on instinct proly the same with all the other creatures
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: DarkZero on June 08, 2004, 11:19:40 PM
This game looks better every day. although some of the new screenies look a bit dodgy. One looks like 2 pics, fused together, i'll find it and post it later
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 09, 2004, 07:10:27 PM
IGNCuccumber's Matt Cassamsassamamasisiisssiiignaasssmassinnassinafatandhairy latest mailbag confirms RE4's aiming system does have the option for "inverted" controls.

REJOICE.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bloodworth on June 09, 2004, 11:49:11 PM
Sorry I fouled that up in my e3 impressions.  They aren't inverted by default, and I didn't discover the option until later.  I thought someone else had covered it though.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 10, 2004, 01:22:52 AM
It's all good.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 13, 2004, 09:36:11 PM
I just saw the giant Japanese Salamander on Animal Planet today.  It was 5 feet long, weighed over 50 lb, had a 1 ft wide mouth, and scared little school children!  IT WAS AWESOME.

A giant Japanese Salamander is the aquatic monster many theorists believe Leon was fighting in the "lake" footage of Resident Evil 4.  How it ended up in Europe, I don't know.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on June 14, 2004, 07:32:39 PM
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theorists

I don't know why I found that so funny, but it was. Is. Verb tense? What?

Weren't TEH ZOMBEEZ dumping bodies into the lake? Mehbee they are trying to feed it to keep their childrens safe from animal planet. Or the monster. But what new virus has Capcom cooked up for us? It makes the peasants look normal (all of them except poor little Nancy Kim who turned into the Lord of the Rings cave troll and wants bloody revenge on Peter Jackson for thinking up something so ugly) but causes Japanese Salamanders to migrate to South America (or Europe according to Pro666. I was under the impression this was South America.) and become RILLY BIG. What will become of the childrens?

Hey, now that I think about it, I don't remember seeing any kids in the village. I wonder where they got off to. (Their parents' tummies. )
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 14, 2004, 08:08:59 PM
Thye eats TEH childrenZ?!  No wayz?!

You were under the impression it was South America because of silly Game Informer "exlusive info".  They've since admitted their mistake and made corrections.

"Theorists" are the hardcore plot analysts at Resident Evil fansite message boards.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on June 15, 2004, 07:04:31 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666

"Theorists" are the hardcore plot analysts at Resident Evil fansite message boards.


So basically it was you?

Anyways, thanks. I had no idea it took place in Europe. Is it safe to assume that this is some jungle village in Spain? I seem to remember the local popo having a Spanish accent. And the Orlando Bloom guy.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 15, 2004, 12:42:03 PM
HAHA, Orlando Bloom guy...

No, it wasn't me.  I don't post at those boards at all, I just look for useful info and media.  In fact, it's been 2-3 months since I for a forum membership at REH, and the webmaster still hasn't given me approval.  A lost cause.

If you look at the latest trailers of the game, there's quite a few vague but significant European references in it.  One would be the cap & uniform of the policemen who escort Leon to the village.  Another would be the style of the castle full of rotting monks (the fact there's a castle at all).  Lastly, the limited variety of WWII-era weaponry (sniper rifle, anti-tank weapon, Orlando Bloom's pistol).
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on June 16, 2004, 07:38:57 AM
Wow I totally forgot about the monks. WHEW! Yep, it's Europe all right, unless Umbrella is now investing in Ye Olde Real Estate in South America in an effort to make New Olde Europe. I didn't notice anything about Leon's escorts' uniforms, but I'll take your word for it.

I wonder if this story will in some way be connected to the Black Plague or if it will be at least referred to. Wow, this whole "taking place in Europe" thing changes everything. ^_^ So, do we know why the President's daughter is even in Europe? It makes more sense that she'd be there, but was she vacationing and kidnapped or kidnapped and told to vacation?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: kirby_2552 on June 24, 2004, 06:59:58 PM
i love what they did with the graphics in re4 i cant wait to play the game because i have always loved the re series!!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mouse_clicker on June 24, 2004, 07:02:56 PM
No Umbrella at all- Kobayashi said in the latest NP that they were left out of the game because it just doesn't make sense for the government to allow them to exist after all that's happened.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 24, 2004, 09:09:52 PM
I'm currently replaying thru Resident Evil Zero, and a while ago I just visited the Research Facility's "church".  The interior architecture of the church sports classical European styles (Dark Age? I don't know).  Specifically, the altar doesn't display any clear symbols of any religion that I'd know of, nor does it seem to display a distinct symbol for a unique religion that exists in the RE universe other than the painting in the center (which unfortunately I can't take a closer look at).

Could Spencer be a member of some wacko Pagan religion that's headquartered in Europe?  Look at the screenshot of the Red-cloaked monk in this Resi4 screen gallery:
http://www.gcadvanced.com/media.php?gameid=420
"I am GOAT MAN!  Kill him!"

The official Resi4 site also confirms that Ashley, the Pres' daughter, was frollicking in Spain then got kidnapped.  She's also 20 yrs old.  Lucky for Leon, yep, she's legal.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on June 25, 2004, 06:32:09 AM
Wow. Umbrella is just gone? This is big. If Capcom is willing to get rid of them, they could get rid of anybody.

I'd ask who Spencer is, but that probably involves some uber spoilers so I'll just keep my nose out of it.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 25, 2004, 07:00:37 AM
If Capcom doesn't dish out on what happened these 6 years I will be a very unhappy camper... >=(

I only recall certain pieces of RE0, but I think the church sports a Gothic theme...Were there stained glass windows?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 25, 2004, 09:32:28 AM
Spencer's the owner and co-founder of Umbrella.  You learn this in RE1 thru a couple lines of text and it's emphasized in RE0 thanks to a couple more lines of text.  The "evil" characters simply point out Spencer is the head guy of the corporation.

As for the church, i could agree it's gothic but the features weren't elaborate as the stuff you'd find in Tim Burton's BATMAN film.  The altar space was fairly small.  No distinct gargoyle-like sculptures, no stained glass (that I could clearly see).

I'm wildly guessing that Spencer's a wacko Pagan and we'll be meeting up with his freaky homeboys/teachers/comrades in the homeland as part of Resident Evil 4:  Leon's EuroTrip.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on June 26, 2004, 03:55:16 PM
Heh. Yeah, I just played some REmake the other day and learned as much. Sounds like a carazy cat.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: FFantasyFX on June 29, 2004, 11:32:04 AM
http://www.nintendojo.com/infocus/view_item.php?1088346709

How do you spell zombie in Spanish?  C - A - T - T - L - E
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NintendoSoldier on July 02, 2004, 03:58:52 PM
RE4 looks amazing and it will be great .
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: nintendogod on July 02, 2004, 04:07:59 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Garnia
Who else is highly anticipating this game? I can't wait any longer! Though the games I get for Christmas will hold me off I guess..... But anyways. Who else is craving to get this game!?


i am,can't wait for it.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NintendoSoldier on July 02, 2004, 04:10:06 PM
Whats up NGOD .
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: nintendogod on July 02, 2004, 04:12:32 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: NintendoSoldier
Whats up NGOD .


nothin much just registered.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Adult_Link on July 02, 2004, 04:24:06 PM
hey guys
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 02, 2004, 04:32:12 PM
PGC has private messaging for a reason!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on July 02, 2004, 09:11:23 PM
Heh, that's true. This is all about RE4 and nothing else. Obey they mighty Hypno Toad, you'll be glad you did
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on July 03, 2004, 04:49:16 PM
Okay, I'm back after a LONG, long, long, looong time... and have some serious catching up to do.

Anyway, I believe there was some discussion about the confusion of whether Resident Evil 4 could take place in Spain or South America.  I'm not sure if it has been officialy announced where the majority of the game is situated... but as far as I believe, I think that it is in fact in Mexico.

Someone was saying that they noticed lots of Spanish refrences a few pages back, including the music and language, but according to history:

When Hernan Cortez landed on Mexico, he was greeted by the ancient Aztecs which he soon conquered for their amount of gold in the country.  The Aztecs weren't completely destroyed, BUT the Spanish did inhabbit a lot of the land.  They converted their sacraficial religion to Catholicism, and it is a fact today that a lot of Mexico is still inhabbited with thousands of Spanish.  History even says that most of the Mexican language includes Spanish.

(Yes, I've done my research )

This could also explain why it doesn't mention Euro Currency, due to the game possibly being in Central America.  ALSO, Spanish architecture is very similar to "Gotchic" architecture, which could also explain the Gothic-like churches that Leon visits.

Well, this is my theory anyway... and it will probablly be washed down the plug hole after Capcom officialy announce that the game is based in Europe... but it's worth a try.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on July 03, 2004, 09:08:22 PM
It takes place somewhere near spain in Europe, that's official. The South America was from GameInformer's "Exclusive" RE4 Info blunder, which was misinformed and theus has been corrected since.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on July 03, 2004, 09:40:24 PM
Haha!

Well, I guess that's my usual luck.

I'm not doubting you, and I do believe you... but could I please have a link to wherever Capcom states that Resident Evil 4 is in Europe?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on July 03, 2004, 10:06:30 PM
lol. heh, Try RE4.com or PlanetGamcube.come , Cube.Ign.com , The Magic-box.com

Either one will state that it takes somewhere in Europe. It's even been stated in interviews with the staff of RE4 during and before E3.

Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 04, 2004, 02:34:00 AM
Zero Plague,

Visit RE4's main JPN website, look at Ashley's character description, and it mentions that she was last seen in "Spain."
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 05, 2004, 10:22:54 PM
1min high-rez E3 2004 Resident Evil 4 trailer.

See Media Blitz!!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Capetalf on July 07, 2004, 11:15:22 AM
I don't know if that was said before (it's a BIG thread), but don't you think it would be cool if Capcom give us a bonus disc containing playable parts of the first demos released (in the mansion)? They said all that was "thrown away". It looks like a big waste.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 07, 2004, 04:32:49 PM
Seeing the detailed indoor Beta environments would be nice, but the "traditional" play mechanics they employed just don't seem so interesting anymore.

I still believe the "castle" environment w/ the candle holders from the previous demos are very much intact in the new RE4.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on July 09, 2004, 05:56:11 AM
Delayed

to

next year?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on July 09, 2004, 06:11:18 AM
I'm glad they all got together and established ONE false release date.

Well whichever it is, "Damn...."
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 09, 2004, 05:37:24 PM
I knew it.  This is all Metroid Prime 2's fault.  Not that getting Echoes at its intented announced definitive release date is a bad thing...

I guess it gives more time for the RE4 trailers to float around and infect people.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Garnia on July 15, 2004, 05:15:11 AM
 I can't believe that they would delay this game after making us wait so long already! I'm so angry!..... *Screams, then runs to the store and purchases Tales of Symphonia* This is the worst day ever!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 15, 2004, 05:18:38 AM
I must be the only one here who can wait for RE4...And how DARE you say that a day you can get Tales is a bad day... >=(
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Garnia on July 15, 2004, 05:51:32 AM
 The thing I said about Tales was actualy a joke lol!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 16, 2004, 12:33:26 PM
I just recalled that Becca looks like Lillith from Darkstalkers.  DAMN!  Becca should've had a Lillith costume in RE Zero!  Succubus chicks rock!

Whaat should Leon's alt. costume be?  Ashley should have a sailor-school-uniform with a mini-mini-skirt.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on July 18, 2004, 09:48:46 PM
Presuming that Leon doesn't have the costumes he had from the first looks of the old Resident Evil 4, I think that it'd be extremely great if you were able to unlock Leon's fur-coat that appeared in the old trailers of the game.  A part from that, a revamped version of Leon's RPD uniform from Resident Evil 2 would be immensely greatful to look at.  (And those of you with the dirty minds... try not to get any ideas)
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on July 19, 2004, 03:03:19 PM
I was getting quite a few ideas actually.

Leon's alternate costume will be that of Gollum.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 19, 2004, 09:54:43 PM
Excellent idea.  Gollum w/ Handgun VS. the Cave Troll.  One semi-nood character deserves another!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Big_Pimp on July 22, 2004, 06:15:21 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Bill
I must be the only one here who can wait for RE4...And how DARE you say that a day you can get Tales is a bad day... >=(


No you're not.  I'm looking forward to Halo 2, GTA: SA, and Metroid Prime 2.  RE4 can wait.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 22, 2004, 07:32:56 PM
Tales of Symphonia (aka Multiline Linear Super Kawaii Battle Adventure EX) will last me for quite a while.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Deguello on July 23, 2004, 01:16:19 AM
I say this that upon viewing that trailer over and over.  That guy that grabs Leon by his neck and holds onto his right hand with the gun in it, this tell me 2 things.

A) Obviously these "zombies" Ganado whatever, still have the exectuive functions of their brains...

B) This guy looks REALLY close to that Nemesis guy.

That said... YIKES.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 23, 2004, 12:17:38 PM
He also sports a fashionable Rasputin beard.

*STAAARGHRRRRS*

*Look into my eyes!*
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Aretak on July 23, 2004, 05:30:40 PM
*sigh*

I'm so torn. On the one hand, I have my utter hatred of the Resident Evil series, and on the other hand I have the fact every trailer I've seen of Resident Evil 4 makes it look like the best game ever made. The thing is, Code Veronica also tricked me into thinking it was the greatest game ever made with its awesome intro, and that turned out to be rubbish...

Just can't decide whether to get my hopes up for this or not.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 23, 2004, 05:32:21 PM
Was the intro FMV?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Aretak on July 23, 2004, 05:36:28 PM
For Code Veronica? Yeah it was, and it was bloody awesome. The in-game graphics of Resident Evil 4 look almost as good as it though, which is somewhat scary actually...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 23, 2004, 05:43:24 PM
Please, don't base your expectations on non-gameplay imagery.  Thankfully, the Resi4 trailers are full of gameplay imagery.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on July 24, 2004, 05:21:07 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Aretak
*sigh*

I'm so torn. On the one hand, I have my utter hatred of the Resident Evil series, and on the other hand I have the fact every trailer I've seen of Resident Evil 4 makes it look like the best game ever made. The thing is, Code Veronica also tricked me into thinking it was the greatest game ever made with its awesome intro, and that turned out to be rubbish...

Just can't decide whether to get my hopes up for this or not.


I have to ask, why do you have such hatred for the series? I, at first, did not like the game either and that was because of the controls.  I have never played the games when they were released for that reason.  Then, when the REmake came out with the new C-style controls, I figured that I'd give it a try and that was when I got hooked onto the series.

Afterwards, I started finding all the PSX games and the DC's Code: Veronica finished those as well.  The controls were difficult to get used to at first, but I have gotten so used to it.  Now, the C-style control feels awkward for me now and is much harder to use.

BTW, Code: Veronica is the best game in the series so far.  Much better than than the others in terms of story.  RE3 was a little better in fear factor because of that damn Nemesis -- you never know whether he's around the next corner or behind you.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Aretak on July 24, 2004, 02:47:16 PM
I've played every regular Resident Evil game ever made, and hated them all... I guess that's why. It's not like I've just played it for five minutes and judged it like that. I've really tried to enjoy Resident Evil many times, but it just doesn't work.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Oldskool on July 26, 2004, 01:51:00 AM
This might be a RE game I'll buy, rather than play at a friends house.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Qwerty on July 26, 2004, 12:23:38 PM
Honestly, I think that the only good RE games take place in or around raccoon city, but now that it just a big crater, where is it going to take place?
Other countries. An example is code veronica, where at the end of the game you end up in antarctica. This game was ok, but not nearly as good as the previous RE games. From what I have heard, RE 4 will take place in europe, which doesn't appeal to me as much as the others.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zer0_Plague on July 26, 2004, 09:24:02 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Qwerty
Honestly, I think that the only good RE games take place in or around raccoon city, but now that it just a big crater, where is it going to take place?


Even though Raccoon City is now destroyed, I believe that other future Resident Evil games will take place in or around that location.  After Resident Evil: Outbreak is completed, if you stay after the credits roll, you will actually see an interesting FMV that shows an unknown corporation constructing a rather large base with what looks to be an observation tower in the center of the barren land.  A conversation between two scientists tells us that something is being scheduled for the future of Raccoon City.  One of the men mention that they will be dropping samples begining with the T-4, and that the remainder of the samples will be dropped in fifteen minute intervals.

What this means... I have no idea.  But it could possibly mean that the Umbrella Corporation or some other sort of organization (possibly HCF) are constructing a compound that possibly could be used as some sort of new laboratory or breeding facility.  I only theorize that because earlier on in the FMV, one of the scientists state that humans aren't able to live on the land.  How bout Bio-Organic Weapons?

If this is the Umbrella Corporation, which I find doubtful, then it could possibly mean that we are going to get the numerous Resident Evil prequels showing their destruction... however, I've got a feeling that this is some sort of organization that is carrying over Umbrella's viruses for their own schemes.

As the FMV ends, a sign on a cyclone fence clearly states that the waste (or land) is highly infectious... meaning that it could still possibly contain bacteria of the T-Virus.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 28, 2004, 10:42:14 PM
Give me more, Capcom.

News of pre-order bonus.  A poster.  Demo disc.  T-shirt.  ANYTHING
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ZeroPlague on July 30, 2004, 02:53:19 PM
Most of the screenshots are from the E3 footage, but if it is of any importance, there have been 55 screens posted up on IGN.  Unfortunetly, only 5 of them 55 screenshots are new, which shows us the crimson monks using catapaults.  Anyhow, IGN also said that the large ogre's name was, "El Gigante" which translates to "The Giant".
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 30, 2004, 07:47:43 PM
[It seems you've been somewhat unbanned.  That's good.]

El Gigante was also the world's tallest "athlete," having wrestling careers in both WCW and WWF.  That guy was COOL.

The up-close shots of Ashley are nice.  The level of detail on her face is kinda eerie.  Keeping with the new Spanish nick-naming trend, I dub her... "La Perrita."

*SNICKER* *SNICKER*



*o*  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on August 03, 2004, 12:05:44 PM
Hopefully this news isn't true at all, (Which I so highly doubt) but if it is true, then it means we'll be getting Resident Evil 4 in January 2005.  Sources can be found here and here.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 03, 2004, 07:41:31 PM
Of course it's true.

Now since 2004 is outta the question, Capcom should compensate by giving me more funny risque costumes.  And minigames.  And special messages from the director.  And a "making of" movie.  And ice cream.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: chain chomp on August 06, 2004, 11:31:21 AM
heres my ideas RE 4 will have zombies ashley will slowly transform leon will kill her and keep her body to give to the president the president will dump her body into the wastleland shown at the end of outbreak anyway before that when ashley transforms leon kills her grabs her body runs out side to find a hord of zombies the president will fly over and give ashley s body to him but as leon is climbing the ladder the zombies grab him and pull him off leon will mow them down with hs uzi and run he finds the mansion which was shown in the scraped version of RE 4 leon will get to the entrance and it is dusty he wipes of some dust and he sees the words UMBRELLA  then it shall end

RE5 it shall be set in umbrellas early days when the t virus is  first shipped you play as a survivor


RE6 shall be set at the end of RE6 IT WILL BE FULL OF ZOMBIES ithink all STARS members should die


RE7 SHOULD FOLLOW THE STORY OF THE GUY FROM re4 THE LAST SURVIVOR
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 06, 2004, 12:55:40 PM
Good speculation.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: chain chomp on August 07, 2004, 02:12:23 AM
thanks  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on August 07, 2004, 07:20:41 PM
Hehe.  You've got quite an interesting imagination... however, there are some statements in your speculation that need to be clarified.

I'm sure that the President sent out Leon to rescue his kidnapped daughter out of love for his family... not so that he can dump her body into the waste land of Raccoon City which is rather disrespectful and seemingly pointless for whatever corportation has settled there.

Also, Capcom have officially stated that even though they may still have importance in the game, the Umbrella Corporation has been destroyed by the government therefore wouldn't be undergoing anymore research in their compound from the early trailers of Resident Evil 4... however, I still do believe that that mansion will somehow have an appearance or major part in the game.  Even though the plot and enemies may have been scrapped, I still have doubts that the setting hasn't been taken out.

As for your ideas on Resident Evil's 5, 6 and 7... I don't really understand what you mean.  So please, expand on your explanation of them.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Deguello on August 07, 2004, 09:56:00 PM
"enemies may have been scrapped"

I dunno Zero.  In the E32k3 trailer it was pretty neat with that ghost-ish blue0ish guy with the hook.  Now every enemy in the game acts like he does.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 07, 2004, 11:50:20 PM
Well, importing existing animation routines must've been easy.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on August 08, 2004, 02:42:39 AM
Although the enemy movements may still be in Resident Evil 4... I highly doubt that Shinji would keep in characters like Mr. Hook and the rumoured "possessed dolls" etc...

Would of been interesting to see, but then again... what else can you ask for when Leon must go against hordes of crazed villagers?  I just hope that this new "change" will have some connections with the previous Resident Evil plots.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: chain chomp on August 09, 2004, 10:45:26 AM
 sorry the president will actuly buriy her in his grave yard  heres my ideas RE 4 will have zombies ashley will slowly transform leon will kill her and keep her body to give to the president the president will dump her body into the wastleland shown at the end of outbreak anyway before that when ashley transforms leon kills her grabs her body runs out side to find a hord of zombies the president will fly over and give ashley s body to him but as leon is climbing the ladder the zombies grab him and pull him off leon will mow them down with hs uzi and run he finds the mansion which was shown in the scraped version of RE 4 leon will get to the entrance and it is dusty he wipes of some dust and he sees the words UMBRELLA  then it shall end (i still think wesker could start up umbrella here and he infecterd the villagers with a more controled version of the t-virus and made them stop anyone finding the mansion)

RE5 it shall be set in umbrellas early days when the t virus is  first shipped you play as a person boy or woman ( you chose ) that is trapped in the lab you will see the full transformation from human to crazed madman to canibal yo zombie)


RE6 shall be set at the end of RE4 IT WILL BE FULL OF ZOMBIES ithink all STARS members should die it will be set in the mansion

i scraped the origanal RE7 ideas for this : it shall be a free roming enviroment it will be set in 5 different citys in the uk and 5 citys in the place where RE4 is setFREE KEVIN
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Jale on August 09, 2004, 12:04:11 PM
There should be one where you play as the zombie. You are partially resistant and so have the whole phisique but retain your brain and the objective is to kill as many zombies as possible before you totally lose it.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on August 09, 2004, 10:44:39 PM
Quote

i still think wesker could start up umbrella here and he infecterd the villagers with a more controled version of the t-virus and made them stop anyone finding the mansion)


That'd be somewhat logical, but from the cinematic between Albert Wesker and William Birkin in Resident Evil Zero, Wesker actually states that he is leaving the Umbrella Corporation for good and will be joining a corporation named the HCF, which stands for either Hive Capture Force or Host Capture Force.  It hasn't really clearly been sorted by Capcom.  But anyway, seeing that Wesker left Umbrella, there wouldn't be any advantage for him or them if he helps them re-establish their company.  If Umbrella were to come back (which I find relatively doubtful) then I'd presume it'd be Lord Spencer who would re-create his corporation... premusing that he might still be alive.

As for your idea on Resident Evil 5, not much of the Resident Evil storyline would increase except for clearing up a few plot holes from Resident Evil Zero and Resident Evil 1, so I'd find it quite pointless for the game to revolve around the attack on the laboratory... however, this sort of theme may serve relatively good for a Resident Evil side-game.  Not a bad idea for a kick-off game, but certainly not for a game that is vital to the story and would need to be numbered.

With Resident Evil 6, it might possibly work out, but it'd be extremely difficult to tie all the STARS members into one game that is situated in Europe... and it'd also be a little out of place.  Having the whole mansion-idea with Umbrella possibly inhabbiting it would need to be fitted into Resident Evil 4... not an entirely new game.  But once again, not a bad idea for an extension on Resident Evil 4.

And finally, with Resident Evil 7... having a free-roaming environment would be extraordinary as long as it isn't made like an environment that you'd find in an RPG however, 10 cities in total would be a little too much... and the idea of the protagonist returning to the Resident Evil 4 setting would be a little repetitive and might make gamers angry.

Quote

There should be one where you play as the zombie. You are partially resistant and so have the whole phisique but retain your brain and the objective is to kill as many zombies as possible before you totally lose it.


That'd be better off to be used as a mini-game for one of the future Resident Evil's... but for having a game on its own where you play as a person slowly going through zombification wouldn't really be my forte and in the end can be rather pointless.  Also, the storyline which doesn't sound like it'd be that advanced might make fan boys angry.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: 3rdrocket on August 09, 2004, 11:30:47 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Jale
There should be one where you play as the zombie. You are partially resistant and so have the whole phisique but retain your brain and the objective is to kill as many zombies as possible before you totally lose it.



I thought about this idea too. That would be fun

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 10, 2004, 07:04:32 AM
I would rather it be included as a minigame, not made as a full game...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: 3rdrocket on August 10, 2004, 11:17:51 AM
yeah i doubt it would take a games length to transform anyway. unless they had little viles you could inject into yourself to prolong the transformation
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Jale on August 10, 2004, 11:33:32 AM
Thats why I said you are partially immune. Its taking longer to transform.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: 3rdrocket on August 10, 2004, 11:45:41 AM
meh I dont see anybody being partially immune to the T virus. Unless maybe they were experimented on or something like that
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Jale on August 10, 2004, 12:09:09 PM
THEY WERE EXPERIMENTED ON! BRILLIANT!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on August 10, 2004, 04:12:57 PM
Hey this thread has 666 replies (olol not anymore), maybe the devil will be in the game.

"What are you looking at Leon..... Leon?"

"..."

I hope RE4 doesn't have any PAUSES. One thing that bugs me about RE is while your waiting for a door to open, or waiting for one cutscene to continue after the previous one, or waiting for a CROW to fly through the WINDOW you could have made yourself some toast and made a post on an internet forum. RE4 seems to be more focused on action, which by no means makes it less scary, but just less... boring. Can't wait. I've been replaying RE0 and it rocks. True story.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 10, 2004, 04:58:24 PM
Outdoor and indoor environments are not "divided," as evidenced by Leon kicking doors open and waltzing right in without delay.  You happy, no?  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on August 10, 2004, 10:13:13 PM
I'm excited in the pantaloons.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Deguello on August 10, 2004, 10:57:05 PM
Noooo!  I don't want the whole place to be one undivided area!  That means the weird folks could be behind any one of those doors!!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on August 10, 2004, 11:17:23 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Deguello
That means the weird folks could be behind any one of those doors!!


Isn't that a good thing?

No more enemies being re-positioned after you leave the room and then re-enter it a few seconds later, no more sprints for a door so that you can loose whatever enemies are chasing you... and best of all, no more door loading sequences that take hours of your time.  A perfect example of this would be the cargo door on the plane in Code Veronica.  Waiting for that door to open each time after you are killed by the Tyrant is extremely annoying.

You should be thanking Capcom that they have made the whole map one big undivided area.  More scares and less bears.  (Sorry, couldn't think of any other rhyming word :S  )
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: DrZoidberg on August 10, 2004, 11:19:00 PM
I think you missed the subtle sarcasm..
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 15, 2004, 10:27:11 PM
Did anyone get the September 2004 issue of Famitsu Wave DVD?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 17, 2004, 03:27:57 AM
Leon should run around topless with a headband like RAMBO.  That'd be an interesting costume.

KILL EVERYTHING WITH MACHINE GUNS.  ROCK N ROLL.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 19, 2004, 01:02:26 PM
Superior like Daisy.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on August 26, 2004, 11:06:34 PM
A few more Resident Evil 4 images posted up at IGN:

New Pictures

If you ask me, they aren't really all that great as what we've had before... but at least it's something.  That image of the monastery with the "maidens" hanging upside down look rather confusing, and I can still hardly tell what they really are.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 27, 2004, 01:02:29 AM
They look like upside-down stone statues to me.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on August 27, 2004, 04:42:48 AM
Another aged yet interesting picture is the one below:

Click

Can you see that symbol on the gate above the monk?
According to a member on reH, the symbol on the tunnel entrance looks identical to the Spencer logo that appeared in the REmake.  Apparently, "Resident Evil Fan: A New Blood" have a clear image of the logo, but as of yet, I'm going through Hell looking for it.

EDIT:  Okay, sorry 'bout the direct linking.  Hopefully links to the gallery will be fine.
Anyway, that picture I was talking about is along the bottom row.  You should check it out.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 27, 2004, 11:15:12 AM
No, I don't see the symbol, gate, or monk.  direct linking, nono

The Spencer symbol I remember from the Office Key in the Remake was designed like a coat of arms.  I forget if it's also on the octagonal stone keys.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 27, 2004, 12:35:31 PM
Should I bother buying next month's Weekly Famitsu Capcom issue with the Bio4 demo?  The fact the text is in Japanese is a turn-off.  Though I'm sure there's some cool ass stuff to capture.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on August 27, 2004, 06:45:37 PM
I personally am not going to get it only because I've got the feeling that all the contents on the disc is what we've already seen on the E3 demo.  It'll be great to have a feel of the game though and see how easy or hard it really is... but I just find that it is a little too expensive for something we've already seen.  (Well, I'm presuming that it's the exact same as the E3 demo...)
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ib2kool4u912 on August 28, 2004, 05:49:34 AM
Anyone know where i could buy that issue of Famitsu online? At lik-sang they said they'll get you "the latest issue", but i would want to be sure i get the one with the demo. Any help would be appreciated
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on August 29, 2004, 12:32:12 AM
Play-Asia is a popular site to buy Famitsu editions from.

Quite expensive if you ask me, but the magazine does contain both a DVD and a playable demo of Biohazard 4 that might contain new locations in the game that we haven't seen yet.  However, you will need a freeloader and also good skills in the Japanese language.  Fortunately however, I do believe that cut-scene dialogue will be in English.  It's just text that'll be Japanese.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 29, 2004, 06:45:49 PM
That's another thing.  Besides the demo, I wanna rip/encode the other stuff from the DVD.  VJ2, baby.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 03, 2004, 01:29:09 PM
Checkout the hi-rez encode of the 3min E3 BioZomboid 4 trailer, listed in Media Blitz.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on September 03, 2004, 06:13:30 PM
Wow, didn't expect that that many people would be downloading it.  I'll probablly download it tomorrow over night when the waiting list goes down a bit.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Perfect Cell on September 07, 2004, 06:23:49 PM
Is there a RE 4 Clip on the new Resident Evil movie? Capcom is missing out!  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 07, 2004, 06:35:32 PM
You mean some kind of ad accompanying the film in theaters?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Perfect Cell on September 07, 2004, 06:44:06 PM
Yeah.... Like the Nintendo ones.... great way to get some hype into the people... Make it a BIG seller...  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 08, 2004, 04:25:53 PM
I figure a BioZomboid4 trailer would be included in the DVD release of Resi-DawnoftheMilla-Evil Apocochoco before the game hits the U.S.  Or, they could show the trailer during Christmas theater releases along with the lastest teen movies -nya.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 10, 2004, 02:45:24 AM
They should play the trailer in front of shaun of the dead, which will be the best zombie movie to come out this year.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on September 11, 2004, 04:16:49 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: MaleficentOgre
They should play the trailer in front of shaun of the dead, which will be the best zombie movie to come out this year.


Bah!  It's outstandingly clear that Dawn of the Dead '04 was the best zombie movie to come out this year.

Anyway, if there is a trailer for Resident Evil/Biohazard 4 at a cinema, I'd think that'd be shown before Resident Evil: Apocalypse considering that a lot of RE fans would be wanting to watch that *cough*lousy*cough* film.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 12, 2004, 04:40:42 PM
Too bad that most resident evil fans know crap when they see it.  We can wait for the dvd releases.  Dawn of the dead 04 was good.  I grew up twenty minutes away from where the origional was filmed. that fact serves no point I just like saying it, because that's the best movie to come out of the pittsburgh area.  but Shaun of the dead finally realizes how silly zombie movies are and is going to capitalize on it.  That's why its the best zombie movie this year.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on September 12, 2004, 10:54:03 PM
Heh...
Well, I'd say that Shaun of the Dead is an excellent zombie film but I'm not really into the parody sort of stuff which is mainly the reason I thought Dawn of the Dead '04 was the best zombie film this year.

Anyway, I wonder if any of you people saw the recent video clip of another demo at E3?  Doesn't really feature anything new, but you may find it interesting to watch.  The link is here:

Clicky

It may also appear to you that a lot of the text in the link appears to be be rectangular boxes.  If you scroll down the page to where you see a magazine cover showing Leon Kennedy on the front, then that means that the post below contains the new footage.  You'll have to do the "right click", "save target as" option considering that the link doesn't work for me and possibly you too.  But make sure that you're downloading the RE4E3k4(2).mov and not the RE4ImpressionsE3k4.mov   one.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 13, 2004, 06:06:38 AM
Here's to hoping that capcom shows something new at TGS, maybe EGM could do something like that.  Oh did PGC release an E3 dvd this year.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on September 15, 2004, 12:09:43 PM
Two pages from a famitsu magazine shows us a few more new pictures.  Unfortunetly, they aren't the best and are quite hard to see... but worth a look.

It seems that the tall man in a greyish cloak is the leader of the villagers.  Anyway, have a look for yourselves and see what you think.

You can find the two pages on the "news" page of www.rehorror.com  

EDIT:

Okay, a member on reH also mentioned that this might be the box art for the U.S. :

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx_assets/product_images/242753.jpg

Hopefully that doesn't count as direct linking, but if it does and is taken off, you can find the image in the RE4 topic at Resident Evil Horror.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 15, 2004, 12:19:23 PM
I believe it does count as direct-linking, since it goes to the image and not to the page...Just post a link to the game's page, and not the image's...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 15, 2004, 01:40:55 PM
I'm pretty sure that the spaniard, the president's daughter, and el gigante would be on the cover.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 15, 2004, 04:06:29 PM
Ashley and Hillary Duff sittin' in a tree,  - - - - - - - .
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Deguello on September 15, 2004, 09:48:15 PM
It seems RE4 has been scored in Famitsu.  I also hear it is quite the HIGH score.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 16, 2004, 01:05:51 AM
BioZomboid MEGAT0N?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on September 16, 2004, 12:31:31 PM
Okay, some news from www.Resident-Evil-Allstars.de mentions some interesting points.  Some points have already been seen before, but I'll throw them into the list:


- Resident Evil 4 is planning to be released in April, 2005.
- Obviously, the villagers are sexist and have killed all the women in the village.
- The Resident Evil 4 demo will be playable for 60 minutes.
- Resident Evil 4 will approx.  be 1200 minutes.  (20 hours)
- Resident Evil 4 will be released uncut.
- It seems that Capcom are adding in sort of an RPG element like DMC where you are able to buy weapons with pesetas.
- Already known, the villagers speak Spanish.

Of course, like other reH members mentioned... this information is all aimed towards a German/Europe market, so the release date may easily be before the U.S. release.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 16, 2004, 01:16:29 PM
So, we may conclude the new "infection" makes these villagers "ghey" or gynophobic.  Or they prefer female BBQ rather than cow beef. (haha)

I wonder if that 20 hours will be 20 hours of PURE DEFECATING TERROR.  And then on your speed run you can finish the game in under 1hr 45min thanks to fancy dodging techniques and ammunition conservation.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Urkel on September 16, 2004, 07:08:17 PM
Do demo discs have regional lockout?

I might consider getting the Famitsu with the demo disc, but I'm not going to buy a Freeloader just for a demo.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 16, 2004, 07:15:59 PM
Yes, they do...Just like all GC games...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 16, 2004, 07:24:31 PM
1 why does anyone care if women are in the game or not.  Do you have some fettish where you want psycho women to eat your flesh.  Really it isn't that big a deal.
2 region free consoles are amazing.  Thank you panasonic.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 16, 2004, 07:40:14 PM
Well Resident Evil 2 had women zombies and it was the best one!

IT'S TRUE!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 16, 2004, 08:05:40 PM
I'm not sure it was the women zobies that made it good.  I think code veronica was the best so far.  I don't remember women zombies and I'm not sure that I cared. zombies are zombies, you shoot them in the head, man woman child dog spider doesn't matter just kill them all.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 16, 2004, 11:43:44 PM
In my world, almost nothing happens between RE1 and RE4.  Maybe that little love boat cruise Barry and Leon had on the Game Boy Color is acceptable.  Maybe.  Sounds sick if you ask me.

I'll buy a Freeloader just for the demo.  3months till the whole burrito is a long wait.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 19, 2004, 08:12:35 PM
I've just pre-ordered the Weekly Famitsu Capcom Special w/ BioZomboid4 demo + trailer DVD, along with a copy of Freeloader.  Freeloader was around $5 off in this bundle.  I should be receiving it at least a week after the Sep.24 release date.

I'm nuts for collecting high-quality trailers.  PURE DEFECATING TERROR IS AT HAND.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: FyreWulff on September 20, 2004, 07:42:43 AM
I'm near considering modding my GameCube just for the demo...

The awesomeness knows no bounds.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 20, 2004, 02:44:19 PM
Better get the mod & demo sooner than later.  Don't hesitate in order to get whatever it is you want as early as possible.  Otherwise you might wait too long, get your GC modded, order the JPN demo for nearly the price of a new game, then a day later the U.S. demo comes out for like $10 or something and you'll be like "D'OH!!"

I'm getting my stuff early cuz I consider it a collectable, plus I'm crazy.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Renny on September 20, 2004, 05:21:33 PM
I'm crazy too. I ordered the mag and Star Soldier. Damnit, I modded my Cube and I'm gonna use it for more than just Bonk.... So I'll have a demo and another Hudson update then.

Plus I bought the Logitech wheel. It just doesn't stop.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on September 20, 2004, 05:33:49 PM
If anyone is interested, reH translated a lot of information regarding the NE-T virus and its origins as well as detailed information about the Nemesis.  It's rather long and I decided to post it in here because it didn't really deserve a topic of its own.

Anyway, here it is:

Quote


NE-T Virus

The NE-T virus has very similar properties to the T-virus, but it was designed specifically in relation to the Tyrant Project. In response to reports of the T-002’s failure, a new project was started. Its original goal was to ensure the destruction of all anti-umbrella elements, specifically STARS members. It was given the grandiose title of ‘Goddess of Vengeance’. The research team though nicknamed the project Nemesis, as they held the surviving STARS members directly responsible for the T-001 and T-002’s failure and took a certain satisfaction in working on a project designed specifically to eliminate them, and the name stuck.
Research pertaining to a similar project had been started a few years ago when Umbrella researchers were looking to improve the general intelligence of BOWs. So far all T-virus created BOWs had had extremely low intelligence ratings. Umbrella needed a BOW that could understand and carry out orders. The American team led by Dr. Birkin was working on ways to increase the BOW's strength, whilst the European team was working on ways to increase the BOWs’ intelligence. Countless theories and ideas were traded and they first started experiments that involved directly operating on the subject’s brain. Birkin’s team succeeded in creating the T-002, which unlike the highly unstable T-001 could follow the simplest of orders such as ‘restraint’ and ‘attack’. But its intelligence was still insufficient for the BOW to operate in the field.
Then a breakthrough by the European team came in the form of the NE-Alpha, an independent organism created from the NE-T virus that could affect the host’s brain. Further experiments were made, including inserting the NE-Alpha into a Hunter. It was this experiment that provided crucial data that led to the creation of the T-103.

Nemesis

Nemesis is one of the deadliest BOWs ever created. Part of the Tyrant Project, the NE-T virus was used in its conception at the main Umbrella Facility in Paris. The first Nemesis was created when the NE-Alpha was inserted into the spine of a T-103. This was the Nemesis T-type. The parasite stimulates the T-virus cells and catalyses the formation of new brain cells. This allows the parasite to gain control of the host’s brain. In effect a second brain is formed, with all lower brain operations including control of the major organs and motor functions. Over time the NE-Alpha parasite will take over all bodily functions. Four compatible subjects were found, but during the mutation process one of the Nemeses maintained the ability of independent thought. Whether it was the parasite that was responsible or the host was never found out as the subject tried to escape and was destroyed immediately. The remaining Nemeses were given inhibitors that would limit the NE-Alpha’s growth when it reached maturity. This new modified Nemesis was classified the Nemesis T-02.
      Due to the fact that only 1 in 60,000,000 people have DNA that is compatible with the virus, Nemesis is an extremely rare BOW. It was a minor miracle that a compatible test subject was found at all. For all intents and purposes Nemesis is completely indestructible. Most conventional weapons have no effect on it and explosives only succeed in rendering it unconscious. It uses the same ‘scent’ program as the T-103s, enabling it to hunt down targets over large distances. Unlike other Tyrants, Nemesis is sentient. As it actually has a concept of what its mission is, it is able to improvise in situations. It is also able to use weaponry. In the Raccoon City incident Nemesis was issued with a modified C90-CR rocket launcher, which was used to great effect. Standing over nine feet tall, Nemesis wears the standard trench coat issued to Tyrants, which hides a mass of tentacles capable of infecting victims with the NE-T virus. The NE-T virus affects the central nervous system of the victim and can cause mild paralysis. If the victim should die, the NE-T virus contains enough T-virus cells to reanimate the victim, which increases the chances of the T-virus being spread. Unlike the T-103s, Nemesis is extremely agile, capable of jumping several storeys and outrunning any human. Its strength exceeds that of a T-103. Nemesis was killed during the Raccoon City incident by STARS member Jill Valentine. The circumstances that resulted in Nemesis’s death were extreme, and highly unlikely to be repeated. Regardless the loss of Nemesis was a huge blow to Umbrella and there is little chance of finding another compatible host.

Nemesis Mutation I

Nemesis was designed to secrete a substance that would increase its cell metabolism in order to counter any heavy attacks and recover from wounds. The downside would be more increasingly unstable mutations. After falling unconscious in a fire, Nemesis’s trench coat was burned off and its rocket launcher destroyed. The extreme pressure put on the body caused a spontaneous mutation effect seen with G-Types and Crimson Heads. Nemesis’s tentacles extended in length and the loss of the trench coat allowed greater mobility. Its attack patterns include wrapping its tentacles around its victim and throwing them against walls.

Nemesis Mutation II

After being decapitated, losing an arm and finally being boiled in large vat of acid in the Umbrella Waste Disposal Facility, which was designed to break down industrial waste, the remnants of Nemesis crawled to the nearby body of a T-103 and ingested some of the remains. The apparent infusion caused an extremely violent mutation. Its reaction was similar to that of a G-Type with new appendages being spontaneously generated. It also suffers from the same ‘devolution’ effect with each mutation; Nemesis reverted to a quadruped form and would have no doubt broken down into an amorphous blob had the mutations continued. An interesting chemical reaction also took place. Its unstable metabolic rate will cause a conflict between the T-virus and Nemesis-T virus cells. Nemesis can use this to its advantage by projecting a highly acidic compound of T and NE-T virus cells, capable of infecting anyone who comes into contact with this substance. Its acid and tentacle attacks are less effective than its previous attack patterns, but still lethal nonetheless. It is interesting to note that Nemesis continued to pursue its mission goal of eliminating all STARS members even when near death, and when mutations should have substantially altered its brain.



That report was slightly altered by an reH member because the original version of it sounded incredibly goofy as if it wasn't even written by an offical source of any kind.

The report covers up a lot of plot holes but unfortunetly, also creates a few more.  Nevertheless, quite interesting and it is worth a read.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 20, 2004, 08:09:50 PM
Renny, the Logitech wheel w/ Burnout 2 is a match made in heaven.  Trust me.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Renny on September 21, 2004, 04:42:23 PM
So I've heard. That's really the reason I got it. BO3 made me want it again. I've also heard R:RE is good with the wheel. Anyway, I'll be renting any racer that supports it after dropping $70 on the damn thing.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on September 22, 2004, 03:48:03 PM
It's been an exciting past few hours now.  I believe that most of the people who pre-ordered the Capcom Special Famitsu Magazine with the demo of Resident Evil 4 should be receiving it very soon.  The shipments were sent today and should be reaching you within a week.  I'm eager to hear the reviews of RE4.    
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 22, 2004, 04:16:11 PM
I'm not sure about "soon" since i still don't expect to have it for another 1.5weeks.  I'm crazy, by I'm not crazy about paying $22 (that's a Player's Choice title for Lisa's sake!) for 3-5 day UPS shipping.  I've read at Play-Asia that a small initial batch has been shipped; i'm not sure if my pre-order was early enough to be part of that.

I know you're eager for reviews, but since I don't like writing I'll just send you video instead. *_*
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 22, 2004, 06:05:21 PM
Resident Evil 4 (US) is now available for pre-order at Capcom USA's website.  See "Amazing Deals" thread.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Dasmos on September 23, 2004, 03:06:01 AM
Does anyone know if REutbreak is any good? And is it coming to cube or will i have to buy it on my PS2?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 23, 2004, 08:49:44 AM
Not coming to cube, game sucks.  It kind of proves nintendo's position on online games.  Games like outbreak that focus purely on online play won't sell, especially when the online parts of the game aren't that fun.  The only good thing about the game is turning into a zombie and killing off your former teammates.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 23, 2004, 01:18:16 PM
MY DEMO HAS SHIPPED.  WISH ME LUCK

i don't know
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Renny on September 23, 2004, 03:26:52 PM
Mine shipped early this morning too. Got the cheap-ass economy envelope. It could take awhile.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 23, 2004, 03:46:51 PM
I learned to not get economy envelope for overseas shipments.  Things can get banged up pretty good.  A couple soundtracks I got had their jewel cases cracked/crushed (ZeldaWW and Metroid Prime, no less).  I still need to replaces those cases.

So I went with economy box.

BioZomboid banzai!  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 24, 2004, 04:17:51 AM
For those of you with weird zombie fettishes, rest assured that there are plentiful amounts of women in RE4
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on September 24, 2004, 05:28:22 AM
Personally, I thought that Resident Evil: Outbreak was an excellent game for online play.  It's just a pity that the lack of scenarios may take away the lastability of the game rather quickly.

Anyway...

Games Media Mirror has listed a few videos of the RE4 demo. As MagnificentOgre already stated, there are female villagers in RE4 so I guess that rules out the theory of the villagers being sexist :S .
A few people who have received the demo of RE4 are already saying that it is extremely pleasing... however quite short, it is still pleasing.

From what I've heard:
- You aren't allowed to save in the demo.
- An assault rifle is unlockable in the demo.
- The swipe of "leatherface's" chainsaw is an instant kill.
- "A" opens a door where as doube "A" in rapid succession will make Leon kick the door open.
- There are female villagers.

That's about it.  I'm excited to see and hear more about your experiences with the game.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 24, 2004, 12:50:42 PM
No WMV video of RE4 for me, thanks.  I'd rather bang my head on a wall.

ok, so the villagers aren't homo-necro.  Just necro.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 24, 2004, 02:21:40 PM
Ashley's character model's been slightly modified since we last saw her.

old "e3"
click

updated "tgs"
click

Capcom's either changed Ashley's model permenently, or she's growing up as the game progresses.  Her hair's a little fuller, her eyes more golden, and looks less of a child than before.  Sorry, don't know if her breasts got bigger.

EDIT: Wait, maybe they have:
Residentboobs4
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on September 24, 2004, 04:24:13 PM
Holy Lord.
The theories and posts on reH in the Resident Evil 4 topic have been blasting away like there's no tomorrow.  Something like 16 pages have been posted within a day.

Regardless, a lot of new information about Resident Evil 4:

In the TGS trailer that was already provided, the comments at the end of part eight have been translated:

"The Bell!"
"It's time to pray."
"We have to go."
"Lord Zatler" ???

Hundreds of theories include that this, "Lord Zatler" is in fact Lord Spencer and that this village may be where the Progenitor Virus was first created.  Regardless, this is getting really interesting.

Also on the trailer, we see a quick glimpse of a woman in a red dress shoot at the villager chief who knocks the Hell out of Leon.  By pausing the video RIGHT at that moment, there is a major resemblence to someone like Claire Redfield or Ada Wong.  This might continue on with the rumour of 4 character from previous RE titles being in RE4.

Once again in the new trailer, we see that in the last few seconds there is a monsterous claw in a fire.  Could this be another Tyrant or some sort of new monster?

A lot of members on reH are saying that they are absolutely AMAZED and PLEASED with the demo of RE4.  Supposedly, it has a lot of elements from previous RE games that make the gameplay all the more better.  I heard also the chainsaw enemy takes about 7-8 shots to kill.

The dialogue of the characters have also improved and when Leon informs Luis of the Raccoon City incident, I almost had an.... ... ....Ok, let's just say it was interesting.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 24, 2004, 06:31:28 PM
less theory, MORE ASHLEY!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 24, 2004, 06:52:09 PM
I hope she dies.  That would be awesome if near the end of the game she turned into whatever the villagers are and you have to shoot her.  I hope she isn't as much of a bother as that girl from Ico was, or makar from wind waker.  They both made me want to throw myself off a bridge.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 24, 2004, 07:11:47 PM
One word: ADA! =D

Ashley likely won't die, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if Leon does...Because Capcom likes to do stupid stuff... ;_;
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 24, 2004, 08:00:37 PM
The final battle will be between Leon and Zombie Viewtiful Joe.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 25, 2004, 04:50:23 AM
Maybe Dante will make an appearane.  Who knows as far as speculation goes.  Anyway the TGS trailer is viewtiful unto itself. go find it.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on September 27, 2004, 03:04:05 AM
These pics of Ashley make me wish Tecmo did the charater design...

..wait.  What did I just say?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 27, 2004, 03:40:54 PM
No.  No.  No.

Ashley looks alright, like she belongs on a horrible amerikan TV teenage comedy.

Oh, and Ashley's officially 20, not 16 years old anymore.

SHE'S LEGAL

GO LEON
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 28, 2004, 04:35:47 PM
Several TGS interviews with Kobayashi-san bring up the idea that BioZomboid4 marks the end of the original storyline, and thus conveys why BioZomboid4 is shaping up to be the ultimo-uber-Resi game, and the climax of the storyline.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 28, 2004, 05:02:26 PM
From what I hear this might be the last time a nintendo console gets any biohazard love.  Kobayashi says there's no reason to beleive that resident evil will ever appear on a nintendo console again, it all depends on sales.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 28, 2004, 05:15:43 PM
Ugh, Capcom better tie up all the loose ends or else I will be very peeved...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 28, 2004, 07:25:25 PM
I saw a glimpse of speculation on reH forums that the mysterious unindentifiable chick with the red dress top in the new BioZomboid4 TGS trailer is unmistakeably BARRY BURTON WITH BREAST IMPLANTS.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Perfect Cell on September 28, 2004, 07:26:09 PM
Sucks that RE might jump ship... but hey Capcom screwed us with VJ why not Screw us with RE! Sheesh.... Im definetly disapointed....  Especially since Sega also did the same... No SMB 3... Ugg!

Oh well Ill still buy RE4... Cant Wait... I plan on playing through the entire series once more before this arrives in January.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Rancid Planet on September 28, 2004, 10:58:46 PM
Well there IS a difference between allowing a franchise to go multi-platform (Viewtiful Joe) and potentially pulling a franchise away from Nintendo completely like they MAY do with RE.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 29, 2004, 12:46:22 AM
We can help prevent that by getting yourselves and your immediate and extended family members to buy copies of Resi4 for their own.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Perfect Cell on September 29, 2004, 08:54:19 AM
I plan too. How else would i complete my RE Collection!  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Renny on September 30, 2004, 02:06:53 PM
Mag arrived today, in a padded envelope, in perfect condition. Yeah, the demo's fun. Run. Shoot. Run some more. Hit a dead-end. Fight for your life. Run some more. These guys/gals are quick.

"Bingo?" :¬D

Still gotta region-hack my DVD player. I've read the DVD's disappointing anyway, though.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 30, 2004, 02:34:45 PM
LUCKY YOU, it came in good shape

where the heck's mine?  blasted U.S. Customs!  *shakes fist*


As for the dvd, I'm just gonna rip the good videos and encode them to DivX for grabs on the interweb anyway.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Switchblade Cross on October 04, 2004, 06:45:47 PM
Have we all seen the new trailer at IGN?   I love the face that they arent relying on the "quite house with things jumping out at you" tactic to scare you.  Instead its more of a high octane, suspence.  YOu scared because people are chasing you and you have no idea where to go next.  Looks awsome!  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on October 04, 2004, 07:26:59 PM
The new trailer is amazing.  The game looks amazing.  Koboyashi says that the game won't be censored for the US which will be great.  I just hope that the ammo comes a lot more plentifully and the herbs are more abundant since the enemies respawn.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on October 05, 2004, 04:48:03 AM
Seeing the new trailer made me want the game more!  Nice seeing more cutscenes of the game.

The camera view showing Ashley's ass, errrr, back end, when she crawls was the highlight of the trailer!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on October 05, 2004, 12:08:58 PM
Just found out yesterday that reH has confirmed that the woman in the red top is definitely Ada Wong.  Would be interesting to find out why she's in Spain for.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 05, 2004, 02:49:42 PM
Maybe she wants to join the sloppy, messy, wet, tomato fight.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 06, 2004, 03:18:03 PM
I finally got my mag + demo.  CURSED 2-WEEK AIR MAIL!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on October 06, 2004, 10:07:23 PM
Gamestop HAVE to be joking.

You're able to pre-order a chainsaw controller (yes, you're not drunk.  You read that correctly.)  that will be given to you on the release of Resident Evil 4.  Then again, Gamestop isn't all that reliable and to prove how lousy they are, they even spelt "Resident" incorrectly.

Gah, what is the world coming to?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 06, 2004, 10:10:39 PM
That was a headline on IGN today.

You can see the "PROTOTYPE" concept art there.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: soracloudtidus on October 07, 2004, 07:59:07 AM
The "prototype" looks sweet and sick too. I was reading the IGN article and it says that it's a homage to the chainsaw guy in the RE 4 game and if players aren't careful the guy can chop Leon's head off. This leads to my question to you guys: Are you going to let the chainsaw guy ripp Leon's head? I'm sure I will when I get surprised by that MoFo. And is there a movie out there with the chainsaw guy doing this to Leon?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 07, 2004, 08:06:17 AM
How could you ever want that done to Leon!?  Grrrr... >=(
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: soracloudtidus on October 07, 2004, 08:19:59 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
How could you ever want that done to Leon!?  Grrrr... >=(


Um.. why not? It should look cool, sick and twisted and thats just what the doctor order. ^_^. This is RE we are talking about and there will be blood spilled all over this game. And I'm just saying for once, for the adrenaline rush...why not chop that guys head off ?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on October 07, 2004, 08:53:06 AM
I don't like dying in video games ever, too much of an ego, so I won't purposly let leon lose his head.  IGN does have a video of leon's lid flopping off.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 07, 2004, 02:19:19 PM
Oh man that demo was sweet...  Running in claustrophobic panic is fun!  My only practical complaint with the demo is you can't invert the Y-axis for analog aiming (no control/settings menu/options is accessible).

I'll see if Bag Head is able to cut off Leon's head in this build.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: soracloudtidus on October 07, 2004, 07:26:00 PM
Yeah u do that, btw where the hell can i get that demo? Also thks for the ign bit.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 07, 2004, 07:34:25 PM
I hate dying in games(especially drowning) because I connect with the characters personally...It's like letting your kid run out in the middle of freeway traffic... >=(
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 07, 2004, 08:10:39 PM
You get the demo from an import store that sells the Japanese magazine, Famitsu, like
liksang.com
play-asia.com
ncsxshop.com

I paid nearly US$50 for 1) the Weekly Famitsu Capcom Special Issue which contains the JPN BioZomboid4 demo.  2) Freeloader disc for booting import games.  3)  Airmail shipping (2 week ship time for me).  That's quite a bit of time and money for just a demo.  But as a fanatic/media collector, I'm glad to enjoy BioZomboid4 in some form this early.

And seriously, I'd be surprised if this baby wasn't sold out by now.

I have no problem with in-game deaths for the sake of "HOLY SH!T HAHAA."  It's sweeter if I capture it in hi-rez video.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on October 08, 2004, 03:43:01 PM
Supposedly, Biohazard 4 is scheduled to be released in Japan on the 30th of December '04.  Then again, what's stoping Capcom from pushing the release date back once again?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 08, 2004, 10:45:55 PM
Sorry, no decapitations in the demo.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on October 09, 2004, 01:18:50 AM
Blah, just came back from seeing "Shaun of the Dead" and gee, what a bloody fantastic movie!

Anyway Pro666, when will your video be up showing your "skills" in RE4?
I'd also like to ask, when you enter the village, do the enemies automatically continuously respawn after you kill a certain amount?  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on October 09, 2004, 05:30:38 AM
that's the understatement of the day.  Most brilliant zombie movie since romero's dawn of the dead.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 09, 2004, 09:57:32 AM
I should have video posted early next week.  The fact that I don't have an option for inverted Y-axis controls (aka airplane controls) made things uncomfortable in the beginning, so it took a while re-learn how to aim.  I'm also having trouble getting the 30000 ptas.

Nonetheless, I can still achieve a grand symphony of exploding heads and burning bodies and super head-smashing kung fu.  My kung fu is good.

With regards to respawning, I don't know.  While I run around the village, actively trying to kill people, more time passes by than simply going around collecting items.  If I didn't trigger Chainsaw Pedro yet, eventually I see 2 different brief cutscenes at 2 separate intervals (the demo is under time limit, recall) where a group of 4-6 villagers rush to the scene.  If i'm not wasting people too quickly, like with shotguns or grenades, then the number of freaks chasing/surrounding me seems fairly constant, but that doesn't include the handful of people I see waiting on rooftops or standing unarmed and pointing at me.  Is that respawning?  Maybe.  Seems like there's enough reinforcements to last the time limit.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: chain chomp on October 11, 2004, 07:11:48 AM
go to ign.com on re4 hi rez pics and who is that huge guy dominiting the pics the one with the black coat and grey beard
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: RABicle on October 11, 2004, 07:48:44 AM
If you look closers you'll see NoFX is written on his coat. That means it's actually Dr Zoidberg.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 11, 2004, 07:56:16 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: chain chomp
go to ign.com on re4 hi rez pics and who is that huge guy dominiting the pics the one with the black coat and grey beard

That's the Chief...He's the leader of all the crazy people... ^_^
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: YATO on October 11, 2004, 08:52:57 AM
but in RE4 its not longer zombies.... what are this peopels?  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 11, 2004, 08:58:01 AM
Crazy people...(They really are zombies in the dictionary term, just a bit smarter...Most likely a new form of the virus)
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on October 11, 2004, 01:25:19 PM
Well from what we've gathered, it's either going to be a new virus or some sort of black magic that the Village Chief is feeding into the minds of his villagers.  However, if it "were" something along the lines of magic, then I don't see why Ada has come to Spain.  It'd make a lot more sense if it were a virus, but that still doesn't tie up why the cult members would kidnap Ashley and begin doing hocus-pocus stuff in their church.

Personally, I've got no idea what Capcom's planning with the storyline.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 11, 2004, 03:52:35 PM
The tall bearded man is Barry Burton on vacation.  Nevermind him, he's not important.  He was once kicked out of Russia for plotting against the Czar and his family some 3 weeks ago.

I wondered what kind of sick rituals they planned for young, 20-yr-old Ashley.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: tacojohn on October 11, 2004, 05:50:13 PM
Just got done watching the new videos over at IGN- OMG I can't wait for this game! THe graphics & game play look amazing! Hopefully the controls aren't too hard to get used to- I've played the remake of the first one on game cube and didn't think it was too bad- so hopefully 4 will be an improvement.

AHHHHH! I'm excited for this game (although I have only MP2 and a DS on pre-order)! I think I'll see if they're accepting pre-orders for it when I go pick up my DS...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on October 11, 2004, 09:41:14 PM
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if the chainsaw controller for Resident Evil 4 will be released when you pre-order the game, or will you have to purchase it individually?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 11, 2004, 09:55:02 PM
No confirmations on price & availability yet other than a January release.

Zero: expect my BioZomboid4 jpn demo vids tomorrow.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on October 12, 2004, 12:56:06 PM
Okay, I'm looking forward to seeing it.

By the way, according to reH, it seems that "thermal vision" can be used in the full game and that the "optical camoflauge" item can be used in the demo that turns you semi-invisible however, the coding has not been implemented for it so the Ganado can still see you.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 12, 2004, 01:11:49 PM
Hey Zero, n/m the PM.  Please use this fileshack link instead.

(640x336) DivX 5.1.1 format

Resident Evil 4 - JPN demo part1
(share it all ya want)

Yes, that's roughly the first 4min of the Famitsu demo.  Yes, that's my weak ass playing the game.  MY KUNG FU IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH YET.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 12, 2004, 10:42:57 PM
I just finished my capture of the Village portion of the demo, and--HOLY CRAP--it's violent.  Fun footage ahead. *_*
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on October 13, 2004, 12:15:39 PM
Okay, I'm downloading the video as I type.

By the way, reH has hacked a few more secrets out of re4.  They've found all the names of the cutscenes (not available to watch of course) and have also come upon the names of the cutscenes that were from the early stages of Resident Evil 4 with Mr. Hook in his mansion.  I really don't know what it is, but I've got the strangest of feelings that Capcom didn't entirely "scrap" the early version of the game.

EDIT:

Just watched your video, and you certainly are better than the other people that have played the demo at E3.  Keep 'em coming, they're great, especially in such good quality.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 13, 2004, 03:23:45 PM
Thanks, man.  If you liked part1, you're gonna LOVE 3 & 4(final).  Some funny stuff happened in that particular play-thru.  Keanu would say, "whoa!"

Resident Evil 4 - JPN demo part 2
MY KUNG FU IS IMPROVING.

Man, people are having way too much fun digging up secrets and theorizing.  I'll just wait for the full game, instead of going "a-ha!  i knew i was right about that!" or something.

Zero, did you pre-order the game yet?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ib2kool4u912 on October 13, 2004, 04:33:24 PM
Nice vids Professsional 666. Gotta love how the birds drop money.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 13, 2004, 04:36:03 PM
Yeah, but cows drop NOTHING, not even tasty chunks of health-restoring Castlevania beef.

Chickens are frightened by my BOOMSTICK!!!!!!!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on October 13, 2004, 10:53:25 PM
Yeah, I pre-ordered it with Lik-Sang about 3 months ago.  I heard that they're quite reliable, but I swear to God that if they stuff up this order, which with my luck is most likely going to happen, then I'm going to seriously be ticked off.  Anyway, let's just hope that doesn't happen.

I'm going to be downloading your videos as soon as I finish posting this message.  I'll either edit later or post a new message with what I thought about it.  

EDIT #1:
Oh, Pro666, I forgot to tell you.  Akdaman1 asked for me to tell you that he says "Hi" and that he misses you very, very much.  Well, he didn't really say that, but he did tell me to say "hi" for him.

Anyway, 77% complete with the video... I'll edit again once it finished downloading.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Y2J_Legend on October 13, 2004, 11:22:25 PM
Hey was sup.

Does anyone know the Australian release for this game?

Thanks
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on October 14, 2004, 12:07:53 AM
May 2007
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 14, 2004, 12:39:47 AM
Dates are subject to change.  One-eyed ghost pirates plague the south Pacific, interfering with shipping.  It takes 3 years for InterPol to intercept the bandits and recover the goods.  Then another 5 months for NAL to acknowledge they were supposed to received the goods in the first place.

AkdamaY2jman:  Konnichiwa.  Sayoonara.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 14, 2004, 01:41:01 PM
(640x336) DivX 5.1.1 format.

Resident Evil 4 - JPN demo part 3
Resident Evil 4 - JPN demo part 4
THYE CAN'T HANDLE TEH KUNG FU

The last two vids.  Look at Part4 to see my BOOMSTICK!  NOT that BOOMSTICK!
BioZomboid BANZAI!!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on October 15, 2004, 05:02:59 PM
Downloaded and watched the 3rd part.  It looks like it get real intense once you enter the Village.  I can't imagine how difficult it'd be on the hardest mode.

Anyway, two new scans from Famitsu have been posted up on the main page of reH here:
Resident Evil Horror Homepage

Nothing new, but I'm guessing that translations are in the works.

Also at Gamecube Advanced, supposedly there'll be a special edition version of Resident Evil 4 that I'm guessing you'll be able to pre-order.

The special edition contains:

- Red Metal Tin Box
- Mini Resident Evil 4 Art-Book
- Resident Evil 4 Laser Cell
- Resident Evil: The Movie Soundtrack
- Resident Evil: Apocalypse Soundtrack

I'm guessing that more will be added to the list as the days go by.  Anyway, it's also rumored that it'll be released in January with about a price of $59.99.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on October 16, 2004, 05:12:01 PM
Okay, a 16 minute interview with multiple people involved in the production of RE4 is up for download at IGN.  Sadly though, Mikami wasn't on there, but regardless of that, it is definitely worth the download.

In the video, it's also revealed to us that "Lord Sadler/Zatler" or however his name is pronounced in the actual name of the village chief.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 17, 2004, 09:08:12 PM
If the recent TGS trailer becomes available on a future Famitsu Wave DVD, I'll be sure to encode that too.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Rancid Planet on October 19, 2004, 08:19:52 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
May 2007


Ever the optimist.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on October 20, 2004, 02:44:50 AM
ARGH!!!

reH has been hacked, so you might not be hearing from me in a while due to solving the problems out down at them forums.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 20, 2004, 03:46:14 PM
??

You have serious involvement in reH's site operations?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on October 20, 2004, 08:57:59 PM
Well I was a moderator there until a little incedent a while back, so now I'm just a member... but me and a few other people have resorted to a backup forum where we are currently trying to sort things out and get in contact with DaMa.  We've also come up with plans of actually taking down these hackers as well who also supposedly are the ones responsible for taking down a Microsoft website.

Also, due to the news page being down, I won't be able to give any new information about re4 for a while.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on October 21, 2004, 09:54:20 AM
OMFG!  It's the work Umbrella.

Seriously though, any idea what happened?  More specifically, who, what, and why?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on October 21, 2004, 12:07:35 PM
Okay...

A while back, the server was hacked by a random hacking group that calls themselves the "Interceptor Brazillian Team" and it totally took out the home page and forums.  If you search on google, they are the same hackers who also took down the Microsoft website as well as over 200 other pages.  I sent off e-mails to all the reH members so that we could regroup at another board so that we could have a proper discussion without continuous panic over MSN.

Anyway, after we regrouped, I e-mailed Captain Zap or also known as Ian Arthur Phillip who is supposedly the world's first ever hacker back in the 80's when it wasn't illegal.  After the law came in saying that hacking was not allowed, Ian joined an anti-hacking organization that actually hacks other hackers.  I told him about the Interceptor Brazillian Team, so he is in the works of taking them down.


Apart from the bad news, DaMa is working on the forums and has brought up the home page of reH.  If he doesn't have the forums up within a week, he'll place a link up on the main page to the backup forums we are currently at.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 22, 2004, 03:04:14 PM
New screenshots:

Gallery Index of TERROR

*__*

Ashley's got that "are you HITTING ON ME?!" kinda look

And it seems they got rid of Luis' mustache.  Less Johnny Depp factor.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: chain chomp on October 23, 2004, 01:59:26 AM
wow those screenies look great   i got broadband and downloaded a trailer which shown 2 men with heavy artillaryin there jackets who are they  
p.s has any one seen RE2 is it good

im 800th replyer to this thread
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on October 23, 2004, 05:18:31 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: chain chomp
has any one seen RE2 is it good


Suprising actually.
I went into the cinemas thinking that I was going to see a whole load of rubbish like the first Resident Evil film, but I actually quite liked it.  Directing needed a lot of work, but overall, I thought that it was very well done as long as you put aside the whole, "Oh, the games are nothing like the movies" arguments.

It was also good to see some scenes in the film to be references from the games, mainly from Code Veronica.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on October 25, 2004, 12:05:35 PM
Okay, the reH news page is back up, so here are the pieces of information that we missed out on:

- On the Japanese website for RE4, it's been confirmed that the name of the Strider is Luis Sera.  Also, a character profile of the woman in red (who is Ada) has been put up in the characters page.

- If you're interested, the making of the Resident Evil 2 commericial can be located here.

- Also, three new weapons include the Mauser, Minethrower and Springfield.


EDIT:

By the way, at the Golden Joystick Awards for this year, Resident Evil 4 appears on the list for one of the most anticipated games of 2005.  Vote for it if you want.

EDIT #2:

On IGN, it's been cleared up that the woman in red is most likely Ada Wong, and that the man with the weapons and items under his black coat is a merchant that you meet multiple times in the game where you're able to buy equipment off him with the money that you gather.

Also, it's said that the monks are called, "Los Illuminados".  Pendants can also be found in the game with the purpose of unlocking items at the end of the game.

Finally, here is an official timeline of the game:

- The Ganado Village
- Farmland and Outskirts (Here you meet Luis and the Village Chief as well as fighting monks that have TNT strapped to themselves)
- Caverns/Mines
- Forest Trails that have signs that supposedly look like something from Blair Witch.
- The Village Chief's Mansion
- The Salamander Lake
- The Monastery

And then in no specific order:

- Castle Exterior
- Castle Interior
- A Building Site
- The El Gigante Boss


Edit #3:

Wow.  Cats got everyones tongues?
Anyway... some plot information have been revealed:

The Salamander-like monster swimming around in the lake is supposedly infecting the water with parasites.  The villagers give sacrifices, in this case, dead police officers and give them to the lake monster so that it can continue to infect the water thus making the villagers crazed idiots.  Why they want to become crazed idiots is beyond me... but I'm guessing that scene we see in the trailer where the villagers dump a dead police officer into the lake is probablly so that the lake monster can feed on it.

But there is still a lot of plot to be revealed.  We still don't know why Ada Wong came to Spain, why the villagers kidnapped the president's daughter, why the villagers want to become crazy and what the El Gigante and Villager Chief and Monks have anything to do with the story.


EDIT #4:

The PAL Release for the game is said to be in March 2005.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 27, 2004, 10:36:42 PM
What's scary is the amount of spoiler info that's come out on this game.

Especially by talented fans.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on October 29, 2004, 05:27:39 PM
Okay, here is some more information once again, taken from reH:

Be warned, you may consider some of these to be spoilers.



- The monks are called 'Heretics' and their cult is called 'Los Iluminados' which translates to 'The Visionaries'.

- There will sipposedly be many bonus games and side-puzzles.

- For some unexplained reason as of yet, the Village Chief does not kill you on sight even when you meet him for the second time.

- A lot like 'Parasite Eve', each weapon can be enhanced/upgraded in some way to make it more powerful.

- About the whole, 'Lake Monster causing the infection' story, no offical source has confirmed it so for now, it'll be considered a rumor.

- And also from the demo hacking, a 'TO DO' list will appear on your map screen that will list multile objectives that you have not yet completed.

- The Japanes Resident Evil 4 website has been updated with a wallpaper that can be downloaded in three resolutions.

- Resident Evil 4 has also won the award for, 'Game Awards Future' at the Cesa Game Awards.  Pictures can be locatedhere.

- New Scans are up for download.  There are sixteen in total.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 30, 2004, 07:38:34 PM
In that first scan, is that a camera that Leon has on his belt? O_o
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 31, 2004, 01:23:31 AM
It could be a camera, or a thermal/night vision monocular, or a flashlight he may keep on his belt or attach to a shoulder harness.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on October 31, 2004, 03:49:12 PM
http://www.gamefront.de/

Resident Evil 4 has been announced for PS2....
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Infernal Monkey on October 31, 2004, 03:53:17 PM
That's because Capcom smell like gerkins.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Ecrofirt on October 31, 2004, 04:46:02 PM
RE4 on PS2.

Good lord, The Capcom 5 has gone to hell.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on October 31, 2004, 05:04:57 PM
What's up with this? I wouldn't expect the PS2 to perfom what RE4 will on GC.

Why Capcom? It's friggin Exclusive.

I swear Mikami should leave Capcom and move with Nintendo and make a new Horror or take RE with him
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Aretak on October 31, 2004, 05:07:01 PM
Long live The Capcom 1.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 31, 2004, 05:15:53 PM
I love P.N.03!

*o*
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Renny on October 31, 2004, 06:28:58 PM
We are all Sony's bitch. Pray to your shrine of sub-standard electronics.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ThePerm on October 31, 2004, 06:59:18 PM
wow...its so weird....they take it from being a multiplatform game...to being gcn exclusive for like 4 years and now that its almost out..its no longer exclusive..and of course it will look like shit on ps2.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on October 31, 2004, 07:20:34 PM
Indeed Perm, that it will. and we know that Mikami will hate working on the PS2.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: KDR_11k on October 31, 2004, 08:04:07 PM
Breach of contract. Blast their asses.
If that doesn't work, four kilogrammes should be enough to reach a supercritical mass.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on October 31, 2004, 11:12:28 PM
Although there is a lot of news about RE4 going onto the PS2 and that it's official, I still believe that it'll only be released for the Gamecube.  I've just got a gut feeling that it's not going to be released for PS2.

Regardless... if it were released, the Gamecube will kill it in graphics, loading times and obviously... the release date.

But still... I've got the biggest feeling that RE4 will never be released on the PS2.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Infernal Monkey on October 31, 2004, 11:46:37 PM
Capcom: Hey, we're releasing RE4 on PlayStation 2 as well as GameCube now.
Zero: No you're not
Capcom: LOLOLOL almost got'cha, too!

*Capcom HQ falls over*
Capcom: LOLOLOLOOOLOLLOOOL
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on November 01, 2004, 12:55:28 AM
Ha, I thought someone would post something like that.  Well I obviously don't have any arguments to say why Capcom wouldn't release it on PS2... as I said earlier that it's just a gut-feeling.

Ah well... I couldn't care less.  It'll be superior on the Gamecube anyway.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Shift Key on November 01, 2004, 02:05:30 AM
Wake up and smell the coffee. I love it how Capcom gave the deal the shaft completely (I refuse to acknowledge PN03 as a real game)
blol, i was rite, capcom love money hats, never forget zero_plaque

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on November 01, 2004, 02:10:18 AM
What's wrong with PN03?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Infernal Monkey on November 01, 2004, 02:13:21 AM
At least we still have Capcom's Magical Tetris Challenge as an exclusive on N64, right lads? Right!  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on November 01, 2004, 03:39:43 AM
Haha, you bring up that topic all the time like it's one of your prized trophies, Shifty.

By the way, what was the point that you were trying to make by bringing that topic back up again? That Capcom were after the money and not the positive criticism?  Well, obviously Capcom will be after the money as equally as they would be after their popularity created by fanboyism... But the point that I was trying to get across... was that there will be many more Resident Evil games that'll be released after Resident Evil 4, and also that there'll be a Resident Evil game released on a Nintendo system after Resident Evil 4.

Like you said in the topic, we can't see the future and know what Capcom is going to do, so how 'bout you stop jumping to such negative conclusions all the time because frankly... we don't know what the Hell might happen.  You may be right and Capcom won't release another Resident Evil game after 4... or you may be wrong and the Resident Evil franchise might continue to "flow on".

Regardless... I know that you hate me and it doesn't take a genius to figure that out, so how about you send me a creative PM offending me because I'd burn if I see this topic turn into a pointless argument like the last.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Aretak on November 01, 2004, 03:40:52 AM
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Originally posted by: Zero_Plague
Although there is a lot of news about RE4 going onto the PS2 and that it's official, I still believe that it'll only be released for the Gamecube.  I've just got a gut feeling that it's not going to be released for PS2.

This children, is what we call 'being in denial'.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 01, 2004, 06:07:45 AM
Whoever didn't see this coming was kidding themselves...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: The Omen on November 01, 2004, 07:11:08 AM
There seem to be a lot of Nintendo apologists in these forums lately....

And Bill, even if we saw it coming, you would think Nintendo saw it coming too and forked over the dollars to keep it.  They dropped the ball yet again.

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But still... I've got the biggest feeling that RE4 will never be released on the PS2.


It doesn't matter now.  The announcement alone has probably cut the sales of RE4 on the GC in half.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 01, 2004, 07:59:26 AM
"And Bill, even if we saw it coming, you would think Nintendo saw it coming too and forked over the dollars to keep it. They dropped the ball yet again."

I believe this had more to do with Sony paying insane moneyhats to get it ported over, hence leaving Ninty ripped off by Capcom bigwigs...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on November 01, 2004, 10:03:49 AM
Well, what can you say, Nintendo is just stupid, if they paid that much money they really could have urged capcom to wait until the game is released to announce its PS2 release, it wouldnt harm sales at all, but now the GCN just cut its sales in half as someone said before.

Well, its just shows how Nintendo keeps making stupid decision, and before the Nintendo fanboys start flaming again, no one can deny that this is bad for Nintendo, neither can anyone deny that this game would have sold GCN because its been on the Famitsu Most Wanted list for months, or years actually. Well, still, the game comes for the GCN and theres worse things like George W Bush winning the election.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: The Omen on November 01, 2004, 10:20:46 AM
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Well, what can you say, Nintendo is just stupid, if they paid that much money they really could have urged capcom to wait until the game is released to announce its PS2 release, it wouldnt harm sales at all, but now the GCN just cut its sales in half as someone said before.


And that's the biggest problem, Why announce it now to kill sales?  Great idea.   Its an embarrassment.

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Well, still, the game comes for the GCN and theres worse things like George W Bush winning the election.


Actually, there's one thing quite worse than GWB winning...but I don't want to talk politics here.

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Perfect Cell on November 01, 2004, 10:25:11 AM
 Sony paying insane moneyhats to get it ported over, hence leaving Ninty ripped off by Capcom bigwigs...



Whatever. Capcom signed a contracct with Nintendo to keep it EXCLUSIVE.


I thing its incredibly crappy that Capcom would break the contract months before its release... Its the Sad state of affairs in Nintendos home when they cant keep 1 Exclusive..

This is extremely sad. Nintendo cant do anything right.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on November 01, 2004, 10:32:31 AM
Did Nintendo even know about this or are they just as stunned as we are?

Did Shinji know about this?

I want to know their reactions.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Perfect Cell on November 01, 2004, 11:12:20 AM
Did Nintendo even know about this or are they just as stunned as we are?


Does Nintendo care? I think they are used to this kind of crap.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on November 01, 2004, 01:07:50 PM
I actually think that Shinji wanted RE4 to stay on the GCN... I don't really know the whole story... but I guess Nintendo as well as us should have seen it coming after Capcom's loop hole right around Code Veronica.  Ah well, what is the world coming to?  Heh, if this is a rush for money, then Capcom really need to sit on their asses and think about what they've done.

Oh well... most of the fanboys will be getting the Gamecube version anyway, but right now, I don't really care what happens.  Then again, I guess it'll bring a lot of newcomers into the 'Resident Evil' world but that can be good and bad both ways.

Ugh, I'm not going to crap on with this... I'll just do my normal "thing", look for new news regarding RE4 and care less about it being on the PS2.  But before I move on... just take a look at this.

Anyway, a few more updates:

- You're able to trade in items with the Arms Merchant for money and also get them cleaned to improve their resale value.

- Location information on the 'caves' area:  Lamps line up along the walls and by shooting them, they explode.

- A new location has been confirmed... The Docks.  The crazed villagers also have the ability to swim from walkway to walkway.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 01, 2004, 01:50:15 PM
THERE IS NO EMOTICON THAT DESCRIBES HOW I FEEL
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Savior on November 01, 2004, 01:57:33 PM
Pissed Off thats how i feel
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on November 01, 2004, 02:07:20 PM
Hmm.... I don't what it is, but over the past hour I actually feel that RE4 should be ported onto PS2.  Yeah, flame away if you want... but if Capcom does make a profit from this which means more Resident Evil games, then I'm all for it.  Just still look at the bright side... GCN owners will have the game a year earlier, it'll have MUCH better graphics and the loading times will certainly be reduced when compared to that of the PS2.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Savior on November 01, 2004, 02:17:01 PM
LOL You say it like if Capcom desperately needed the money. They are one of the most succesfull third parties. They arent in economic trouble.  There is no bright side. It only hurts Nintendo

Thats What I care about. Capcom be dammed  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 01, 2004, 02:33:00 PM
"but if Capcom does make a profit from this which means more Resident Evil games, then I'm all for it."

If that's the case then why aren't we seeing ports of PS2 games?  Because Capcom bigwigs live on moneyhats...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ruby_onix on November 01, 2004, 04:07:45 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Zero_Plague
Ugh, I'm not going to crap on with this... I'll just do my normal "thing", look for new news regarding RE4 and care less about it being on the PS2.  But before I move on... just take a look at this.


So basically, Ben Judd (apparently an American working for Capcom in Japan, who has frequent contact with guys like Shinji Mikami and Keiji Inafune) is saying that we need to calm down and understand that Capcom had no choice but to kick Nintendo while they're down (and undercut the sales of their own game while they're at it), because Capcom's a faceless heartless corporation. The word "exclusive" means nothing to them beyond six months, and money is the only thing that matters to them.

Good to know.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: jarob on November 01, 2004, 05:22:12 PM
Flip flop.  Guess Kerry is not the only one.  Sad on both parts.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Shift Key on November 01, 2004, 05:55:15 PM
Zero: The point I was trying to get across is that Capcom's bottom line determines what they do, not one single person. You'd have to be very ignorant to think Capcom was happy releasing RE4 on the third-ranked console worldwide.

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stop jumping to such negative conclusions all the time because frankly... we don't know what the Hell might happen.
I'm just sick of the fanboy-driven optimism, that's all. Like this:

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But the point that I was trying to get across... was that there will be many more Resident Evil games that'll be released after Resident Evil 4, and also that there'll be a Resident Evil game released on a Nintendo system after Resident Evil 4.

You don't know. Aretak hit the nail on the head with the whole "denial" thing.

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I know that you hate me

blol

I hope they put back the door-opening animations in the PS2 version just for the sake of it.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Darc Requiem on November 01, 2004, 06:16:31 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: jarob
Flip flop.  Guess Kerry is not the only one.  Sad on both parts.


Arrgghh. No politics. I'm sick of seeing politics in forums. Jeez. All day on TV, all over the papers, at work, and now here.

Darc Requiem
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Urkel on November 01, 2004, 07:48:41 PM
The lesson of the day: All 3rd parties are filthy lying backstabbers. Without exception.

I can only hope Nintendo steals Mikami away.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PlatinumKnight on November 01, 2004, 09:41:07 PM
It all comes down to this:

Capcom decided that Money was more important than Values/Ethics/Morales/Ones Word/ ect.

They sold out plain and simple!

If Mega Man X series and the Resident Evil Series where not my most favorite series of all

time I would never consider buying a Capcom game EVER again.

RE4 is my most anticapted game in my 21 years on this planet. If it wasnt for that I

wouldn't buy it.

I have RE0, RE1, RE2 on N64, Mega Man X on Snes. All the games I own are either Nintendo

First Party/ Exlusive, EA Sports or Capcom games.

And Benjudd spare me this:
"Lets escape from reality into a morally perfect utopia where none of us lie and we are all

perfect beings..."

Talk about PR Spin! Is this supposed to be an excuse. So the world is full of lairs so that

supposed to make it okay. What's the saying "If everyone jumps off a bridge......"

I will buy this game the day it is released, but I will be mad when the PS2 version gets

all the bonus material and all the cool extras.

I refuse to buy a non Nintendo console. I got every one Nintendo ever made except Virtual

Boy. See Nintendo fans are smart. I'm a hardcore RE fan but im not paying $39.99 for a

several year old port of RE2 OR RE3. They where supposed to be $19.99 yet another Capcom

lie.....

Product Number 2 was just garbage, and Capcom is mad we didnt buy it. Viewtiful Joe sold

well and what does Capcom do, port it over to PS2 and make the sequel multiplatform. Its a

lose lose for Nintendo.

Ask yourself this:
Is Capcom more interested in making Great, Highly Rated games, Critcally Acclaimed games,

that garner mediacore sales, or releasing a crappy "Mature" game that that goes quadruple

platinum and makes them Millions of dollars.

The power of the allmighty yen.....
Money is definatley the root of all evil......
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 01, 2004, 10:59:26 PM
P.N.03 was NOT garbage.

It exists in the love/hate category.  I'd take P.N.03 over any/all of the Mega Man X crap (I do own X1, X2, X3 on SNES, love them, thank you) that's come out since the PSX days.  Shinji Mikami had quite a few good ideas in this project (yes, before he started reworking Resi4), it just had the unfortunate accessibility flaw of not giving the player the proper idea of how the game should be played.  That was the biggest problem; many reviewers didn't know how to approach the game mechanics and objectives, and instead simply lost sight and marked down the game for not playing like other generic 3rd-person jump-up/down character shooter adventures.  Not right.

I think GameSpy's review was one of the scarce few that gave it a fair enough look to realize what's going on in the game.  P.N.03 is a uniquely presented take on classic arcade shoot'em-ups like Gradius and 1942.  It applies those reflex-intensive "defense over offense" fundamentals to a character system.  The emphasis is on weaving thru gunfire to position yourself for clear shots.  Since you have automatic targeting, aim is not an issue, giving the play priority to movement and position.  And since you're rewarded (in an arcade sense: points/money) for destroying enemies in quick succession (seconds between each), you're inclined to maintain a constant forward motion to reach the next enemy before the combo timer runs out.  This is why me and maybe 3 other people enjoy P.N.03; for its reflex-intensive "arcadey" feel in a "modern" shell/interface.  I'd rate it a GOOD 7.5, for having solid core mechanics and just lacking bells and whistles.  Most other sites would give it a BAD 7.5 cuz they thought the game had "obvious" problems when actually the problems were with the reviewers.

Cross-posting is bad for your rectum.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on November 01, 2004, 11:13:37 PM
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I'm just sick of the fanboy-driven optimism, that's all.


You know, I guess you're right... you're one-hundred percent right.  We've got some members on these boards saying that they will NEVER by a console that didn't involve Nintendo in its production.  Fanboys are so... what's the word?  "Stubborn" and "hot-headed" I guess I'll have to use.  Not the best description, but it's true.  I know that in many times I'm stubborn when I don't get what I want and sometimes even... fiery, but what you have to keep in mind, is that you are exactly the same.

You're a fanboy of Nintendo, no doubt... like hundreds upon hundreds of other members on these boards that are right now saying... "God damn Capcom can't keep themselves in line.  They're suckers when it comes to money."  Then there are people on the Playstation boards that are saying, "Why are the GCN users carrying on?  Sony needs Resident Evil back where it started.",  and then there are people on the Resident Evil boards commenting such things like, "At least it'll attract more members into the Resident Evil world.  Capcom may be pleased".

You see?  We argue against fanboyism but what we don't get is that WE ARE all fanboys and we don't even realise how stubborn WE can be.  So before you open your mouth regarding how pathetic fanboyism is, look around the members you post with.  Fanboyism is everywhere, and as stubborn as it may be, we've got to respect and live with it.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on November 02, 2004, 06:21:54 AM
to say that as a sign of anger your not gonna buy anymore capcom games ist just plain stupid because, you miss out on a great game, it hurts nintendo even more, and capcom will probably be proven right in the assumption that RE4 should be ported because GCN isnt the right platform

seriously, the port isnt that surprising, PS2 strongest games the GTA series also got ported, its just stupid they announced it now, but maybe nintendo could have stopped that aswell, i guess both are to blame, and i also think its time to let it go, we cant change it anymore, just buy RE4 so another one would atleast be developed for Revolution
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Dracula on November 02, 2004, 07:06:38 AM
The loyalty to Nintendo is still as big as ever for me, and I still own only GC out of the 3 home consoles, but I won't even deny that lately I've been more then tempted to buy a PS2 as well. I enjoy playing my GC games, but the thing is there are games (in some genres) that are missing on the GC.

First of all we have no real Tennis games. Sega could have given us Virtua Tennis, but instead they gave us the lousy Virtua Soccer, which is by far one of the worse sports games ever. We also miss a good Rally game, and not to be forgetting the countless other 3rd party games we miss out on. There is no need to write about all the games that I would have liked to play on the GC, as that is a known issue.

But what bothers me the most, is all the great RPGs I as a GC only owner am missing out on. The good RPGs released on the GC can be counted on one hand, and as a RPG fan, it just is not enough for me. I want to play more RPGs as that is one of my favorite genres.

Basically what I'm saying is that, even people like me, who has been die hard Nintendo fans for almost 20 years, are now considering to buy atleast a second console, in addition to the Nintendo one, and if it continues like this, there is no other way for Nintendo then to turn into a 3rd party developer/publisher like Sega, and pull out of the hardware market.

I really don't see any future for Nintendo in the hardware market, if things stay as they are. Nintendo are getting killed out there. MS have taken over the 2nd spot, and Nintendo would be lucky to sell 10 million consoles in the next generation. I'm pretty sure MS will come out even harder the next time, now that they have established themselves. And most of GC owners own a second console anyway now. The PS2 owners do not.

About RE4, I doubt that it could have sold anymore GCs (atleast not increased the userbase drastically) by staying an exclusive, because a couple of games can not change the image Nintendo have managed to create for themselves. Nintendo have been too occupied with making profits, that they have forgotten that some losses now, could help them in the future. Nintendo should have paid/ivested more money to/in developers to develop new software for the GC.

At the moment, I regeret missing out on the PSX in the last generation and the PS2 in this one. 25 is too old for being blind on what the other consoles have to offer.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Shift Key on November 03, 2004, 03:16:08 AM
Alright Zero. I tried to let this slide, but I can't help it.
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Sony needs Resident Evil back where it started.
Where it started? I think the fact there are 70-odd million PS2s had more to do with it than nostalgia.

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So before you open your mouth regarding how pathetic fanboyism is, look around the members you post with. Fanboyism is everywhere, and as stubborn as it may be, we've got to respect and live with it.
Respect it? Perhaps. Live with it? Hell no. Why should I tolerate the whinings about Capcom "selling out" when it doesn't change anything. If you don't like it, blog it and hopefully someone who cares will read it.

Dracula:
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First of all we have no real Tennis games.
Real tennis game? Unless you don't call Mario Tennis "real" then no, there are no real tennis games. Virtua Tennis is the best real tennis game I've come across (that was for DC, can't say much about the port to PS2).

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Nintendo are getting killed out there.
Statistically, they are. Financially, that's a whole other story. There was an article a while back that said Nintendo was the most profitable out of the three console makers (it was independent of the three companies). I think the link might even be deep within the recesses of these forums.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on November 03, 2004, 03:34:46 AM
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Where it started? I think the fact there are 70-odd million PS2s had more to do with it than nostalgia.


Yeah, I would slightly agree... but I'm not the one who said that it has anything to do with nostalgia, I'm the one that has to put up with that from Playstation fanboys, and I put the quotation marks in my post for a reason... so that you could at least know that that comment was not coming from me but rather from the Playstation fanboys like I had stated in my post.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on November 03, 2004, 04:24:27 AM
From Beyond 3D forums:
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I knew a PlayStation 2 version was coming for over 6 months, but I wasn't allowed to tell anything about it by the person who told me. Apparantly he was right after all.

The reason why they started anew with RE4 was mostly to be able to create a PS2 version alongside the GameCube version. I fear for the look of the game however... Mikami isn't very fond of PlayStation 2...

If this is true, then I am really f*cking pissed off.

Old version: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Grubdog/resevil4_screen001.jpg

New one: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Grubdog/resident-evil-4-20041102022233325.jpg

Does anyone else notice a slight drop of graphical quality?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on November 03, 2004, 04:33:23 AM
hard to say, I guess somebody with a better qualified eye should investigate this rather interesting thought
you should maybe write to cube.ign mailbag or something comparable

but if its true that would be the weakest thing I ever heard
yet, I still believe its gonna be a port
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Ymeegod on November 03, 2004, 05:33:59 AM
"Capcom decided that Money was more important than Values/Ethics/Morales/Ones Word/ ect.

They sold out plain and simple!"

What's kinda funny is how people's view changed, capcom didn't.   Nintendo had a deal with Capcom just to get the series exclusive, which pissed off alot of PS owners since the series started on the PS to begin with.  

Now, Capcom's doing the exact same thing---going for the gold.  Nothing new at all.

You should be happy getting the game to begin with and getting most likely the better version.  

Cry all you want but I'll be getting the game in spring none the less.

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: KDR_11k on November 03, 2004, 05:35:29 AM
Not comparable, two completely different scenes. There are no common elements that would allow you to point out any changes.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on November 03, 2004, 06:10:39 AM
"The reason why they started anew with RE4 was mostly to be able to create a PS2 version alongside the GameCube version."

If that's true, I am really, really pissed off.

I don't think it's true though. Mikami interviews were less than 6 months old, weren't they?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: chain chomp on November 03, 2004, 06:28:44 AM
im pissed off mikmi hs really f***ed the gamecubes chances


Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Dracula on November 03, 2004, 06:43:34 AM
To use "the series started on x console, so it should return to that console" as an argument is weak. What about all the series' that started on NES/SNES but went to Sony's consoles? Because there are several franchises that should come back "home" in that case.

But in any case, like I've said earlier, RE4 could not have sold a substantial amount of GCs. Other games have failed to drastically increase the sales of GC, so I doubt that this one game could have made that much of a difference. I'm really not that angry about it going to the PS2. I'm more pissed off at Nintendo these days anyway, to care about what Capcom decides to do with one of their games, no matter how big it might have been.

I really hate the way Nintendo threw away the opportunity to bring an epic RPG from Square to the GC, when it let Square develop for the GBA. Instead of getting a great epic RPG, we got the absymal (I admit the game was not that bad, but compated to what we GC gamers were expecting it was downright lousy) Crystal Chronicles. The game sold nearly 900 000 copies worldwide, but thats because GC owners were starved for a new epic RPG. The only RPG (worth mentioning) we had on the GC at that point was Skies of Arcadia (a great game, but a port of a couple of years old DC game).

This is a game you must not only own 3 GBAs to play, but you must also have 3 friends who are interested in playing these kind of games. I do have 2 GBA's, but no friends of mine wanted to play that game for longer then 15 minutes (which I can't blame them for, as the game was not that good to begin with, regardless of whether you played it single or multi player). Nintendo tried to sell GCs by using the GBA, but it had not worked in the past, and it sure as hell was not going to work this time, especially given the bad quality of the game they were trying to sell it with.

If I'm not mistaken, the Q fund was used to finance the development of this game. And in return Square got to give us the FFTA on the GBA. A game that was more or less build on the same principles as FFT, with a different (more childish) story. The story of this game was so weak, it could put any serious RPG gamer off. I hate this game. And now they are giving us remakes of the first 2 Final Fantasys. Just like every other every other 3rd party developer uses the GBA to earn easy money (by making nearly direct ports of their old games), and then pisses all on Nintendo by using that money to fund rival consoles' (mostly PS2) games, SquareEnix is doing it to.

As for Mario Tennis being a "real" tennis game. I would not have bought Mario Tennis, but since there is no other option on the GC, I'm almost forced to. Sure Mario Tennis is decent, but its not an actual Tennis game. Its more of a tennis game with Mario characters in it, which means that it also doens't use actual Tennis rules.

I want a tennis game like the legendary Super Tennis, where I can't pull of super natural moves. I don't want to get power ups in a Tennis game, I want to play a regular tennis game, with no power ups.

Nintendo might make most of the profits, but that won't help the company much in the long run. Nintendo's profits on the home console market is decreasing, and it will continue to do so, unless Nintendo starts to approach the market differently. The N64 sold twice as much as the GC, even if the GC is still selling, I don't think it will ever sell more then 20 million units.

Also Mario 64 sold 5 times as many copies as Mario Sunshine. Ocarina of Time sold more then Wind Waker, and so on. The only platinum seller the GC has in Japan is Smash Bros Melee.

Nintendo needs to make changes, its even started to loose its most loyal fans. I've stuck with Nintendo through thick and thin, I missed on several classic games in the previous generation, and I've missed out on maybe even more classic games in this generation, and there is only to a certain point the gamer in me can let him be dictated by the Nintendo fan in me. There is a limit for everything, and Nintendo sure has reached the limit of patience in its most loyal fans.

How much longer do we Nintendo fans have to suffer for Nintendo's stubberness? I know 15 GC owners, 10 of those GCs were partially or fully financed by me (I either gave those away as presents to friends/family members, or paid half the price for those who were somewhat interested in the console, the GC costs only around $100 here in Norway, and that is by far the cheapest home console ever here in Norway, even a dying DC costed more), and 80% of these people own a PS2 or an Xbox as well.

Thats were the market is going, some are buying the GC as a second console, most are just ignoring it altogether. Nintendo needs to change or else its profit will continue to decrease until there will no longer be any profit for the company, and thats when Nintendo will realise that it should not have ignored those who have kept it alive for all these years. The loyal Nintendo fans who have stood by the company for nearly 20 years.

Btw, I bought RE and RE0, and enjoyed both. I will also buy RE4, regardless of it being on the PS2 or not.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 03, 2004, 02:22:09 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
From Beyond 3D forums:
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I knew a PlayStation 2 version was coming for over 6 months, but I wasn't allowed to tell anything about it by the person who told me. Apparantly he was right after all.

The reason why they started anew with RE4 was mostly to be able to create a PS2 version alongside the GameCube version. I fear for the look of the game however... Mikami isn't very fond of PlayStation 2...

If this is true, then I am really f*cking pissed off.

Old version: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Grubdog/resevil4_screen001.jpg

New one: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Grubdog/resident-evil-4-20041102022233325.jpg

Does anyone else notice a slight drop of graphical quality?


That's a bad comparison.  The settings are different (comparing the "old" castle to the "new" castle would be more appropriate); the times of the day are different, causing different magnitudes of lighting and shadowing; the camera angles are too different, with one fairly distant from the character and the other close enough to see wall textures (Resi4 is typically not played by moving closely along walls); one screen shows a fair amount of space while three-quarters of the other screen is covered by a wall/window at close range, blocking the view of the rest of the villagers' and town geometry and architecture.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 03, 2004, 03:48:58 PM
I believe the TGS 2004 Resi4 trailer will be in the next issue of Famitsu Wave DVD, on sale at the end of the month.  I didn't see "biohazard4" listed as a feature for the current issue nor on the extra TGS special DVD.  It was listed for the Jan. 2005 issue... Another fun high-rez trailer to share later.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: KDR_11k on November 03, 2004, 10:48:09 PM
Wasn't it in the Capcom special issue?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 03, 2004, 11:09:29 PM
No, unfortunately.  Only the 3min E3 2004 trailer are part of the special issue.  The TGS trailer is the more recent one featuring extra footage of the Village Chief and the mysterious "Lady in Red."  Since the special issue was planned months in advance of the actual TGS event, where/when the TGS trailer would be debuted for the very first time, it was probably too early for the trailer to be included with the magazine.

Had the TGS trailer been released with the mag, I would've posted it by now, wouldn't you agree?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on November 04, 2004, 12:49:02 AM
Yeah, true, I just saw those two pics next to each other and raised my eyebrow. We'll probably never know the real story behind all this anyway, so no point in me making more assumptions.

I'm still looking forward to the game, but I do miss the "old RE4" with the dark Resident Evil hallways, I hope some of that is in the new version.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on November 04, 2004, 04:27:31 AM
Just a smartass remark which ought to piss you all of. To all those really pissed at Capcom,
the console business is a tough business, and in a capitalistic world in which we live these things happen.
So unless Capcom did something illegal it doesnt help to be mad at them or to protest, shiat happens.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: KDR_11k on November 04, 2004, 07:15:19 AM
The capitalist system sucks. It removes values such as life, humanity and happiness and replaces them with the desire to make money. Basically capitalism is the devil, the absolute evil that corrupts people and makes them hurt and kill each other.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on November 04, 2004, 11:13:32 AM
Still better than Socialism, or living in the 3rd world.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 04, 2004, 01:29:10 PM
RESIDENT EVIL TALK
stuff
RESIDENT EVIL TALK
stuff
RESIDENT EVIL TALK
stuff
RESIDENT EVIL TALK
stuff

stuff

~~~~~

Ashley's hot.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 05, 2004, 12:55:38 PM
BioZomboid4 is a 2-disc game.  -- IGNCube7.9sry
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on November 05, 2004, 03:29:46 PM
Just some updates on RE4:

- You're able to buy extra slots from the merchant that you meet several times in the game which will make your inventory bigger obviously letting you handle more stuff at once.

- Supposedly, the normal mode is extremely intense and is certainly much harder when compared to the other normal modes in Resident Evil.

- As Pro666 already said, it'll be 2 discs.

- A special DVD will be given out to those who pre-order Biohazard 4 from Japan.  The price is 8190 Yen all up which is the highest price yet for a Resident Evil game.

- Both Resident Evil 4 sites have been updated.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on November 06, 2004, 02:34:19 AM
This game will really be amazing, I hope that this series is continued on GCN sucessor.
Imagine the possibilities
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on November 06, 2004, 04:47:38 AM
hopefully the outbreak series continues and nitnendo's next console gets online and takes the series.
Outbreak 2 got a 36/40 in famitsu which is pretty darn good.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: The Omen on November 06, 2004, 06:13:34 PM
As if this wasn't bullsh!t enough, now I read a Xbox version is being released as well.  And how can Capcom defend that move?  Their games have sold like complete rubbish on the Xbox.  Its on Spong(I know, unreliable) and they seem pretty positive at this point that xbox will have RE4 as well.  I just can't wait for the extra incentives to buy the PS2/XBox version.  Then we'll all be pissed all over again.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on November 06, 2004, 07:08:02 PM
this just in, after beating the game with leon PS2 and xbox gamers will get to play through the game as every other character from the series including the zombies.  Also playable will be dante and trish.  They're also throwing in co-op missions online and a special downloadable co-op extra for people that also own viewtiful joe.  If you own a gamecube you're just out of luck
cacpcom "I wonder why the cube version didn't sell as well?"
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Ian Sane on November 06, 2004, 08:16:36 PM
Well if you're going to sabotage your own game's sales you might as well go all the way.  Realisitically the damage is done already.  An Xbox port would just be an exclamation point.  If there is an Xbox port I won't be too surprised but I will be disappointed.  The Xbox has been a money pit for Capcom.  The fact that they continue to support it is insulting.  But the real insult would be if they actually announced an Xbox port before the Cube version was released.  We've all assumed the reason Capcom announced the PS2 port before the Cube game came out was because Sony paid them to kick Nintendo in the nuts.  However if they were to announce both versions and thus ensure that absolutely no human being alive who currently owns any current videogame console would buy a Cube for RE4 then it would suggest that perhaps Capcom screwed Nintendo on their own.  I mean there's selling out to Sony and then there's just being a total jerk.

However I think the Cube version of RE4 will still sell the best.  Since it comes out first anyone who owns a Cube, even if they own another console, will buy the Cube version.  The Cube's price cut made it a popular second console for PS2 and Xbox owners and odds are they'll get the version that comes out first.  The Cube version will sell best but Capcom will ignore it and cut Cube support anyway because of poor PS2 sales.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on November 07, 2004, 02:46:29 AM
I actually think it really wont be that bad, the hardcore RE fans will buy the cube anyway, because they cant wait for a year, other people might still see this as an incentive to buy the cube, since it has quite a few other games that are awesome. It might after all not make such a big difference.

Look the GCN only cost 100$ or 80 euros, and you get Mario Kart for free. If I hadnt got a cube yet and the only games that would interest me are RE4 and the new Zelda, I would still buy one.

I just bought the new PS2 just for San Andeas, MGS3 and Pro Evolution 4.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on November 07, 2004, 06:35:04 PM
There are two new scans on Resident Evil Horror that is not actually located at rehorror.net instead of .com due to them hackers.  Anyway, the scans show what the merchant's store looks like and what the display screen for buying/selling/trading items is like.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on November 08, 2004, 10:38:26 AM
Capcom need to make up its mind....

SPOnG News: Resident Evil 4 PlayStation 2 and Xbox Debunked
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In today's issue of Famitsu, Capcom has stated that Biohazard/Resident Evil 4 is still scheduled as a GameCube exclusive, debunking intense rumouring from earlier this week that foretold of PlayStation 2 and Xbox versions of the hotly anticipated horror title.
Yeah, it's spong, but still.  All this flip-flop is killing me.

EDIT:  Nevermind, I'm a dumb ass.  I just noticed the date on this article:  January 9, 2004.

Still, funny to see that Capcom is full of it, and always has been.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: StRaNgE on November 08, 2004, 11:49:32 AM
i  got a chance  to play the demo the other day and all i gotta say is WOW!

i was in the middle of a crowded mall and still had some fear factor  put into me by the game.

i can not believe how intense the ai seems so far in it.

you can not just duck into a building  to collect your thoughts  as they will find a way in after you. bashing out windows from a back way or  bashing in a front door they  even throw up a ladder to a second story room .

i was always looking forward to this game but am so anxious now that i really wish it was out now. the demo put silent hill 4 and 2  to shame.  the controls seemed pretty good although it seems that when you are shooting you  are stuck in a non moving state now unless i just did not get that part figured out.

THIS IS A MUST HAVE GAME!

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 08, 2004, 01:46:15 PM
When you're shooting, you're stuck.  For the purpose of maintaining accuracy in aiming, that is "realistic," and is typical of Resident Evil 1,  a game comprised of law enforcement agents who don't necessarily have the marksmanship of seasoned counter-terrorists.  Even when Leon doesn't move while aiming, he's still not "super-soldier-still" like a rock. To add aiming while moving would likely introduce a shot-randomization area/spread characteristic into the game that increases proportionally to your increase in movement, like what the original Rainbow Six games maintained.  More moving, much less accuracy.  Of course, the developers constantly made a point of not letting BioZomboid4 become an FPS.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: KDR_11k on November 08, 2004, 07:54:12 PM
Let's just say they realized that this mechanic worked in P.N.03 to force the player to think about when to go on offense and be more vulnerable at the same time instead of constantly circle strafing the enemies or constantly running backwards (ever played Serious Sam?).
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 08, 2004, 08:34:12 PM
I played Duke Nukem BeForever *o*
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: KDR_11k on November 09, 2004, 04:25:54 AM
I played Duke Nukem BeForever *o*

What's the year 2135 like, then?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on November 09, 2004, 09:00:44 AM
http://s03.2log.net/home/syoboon1/archives/blog178.html
For those of you who are illiterate, it means developers at capcom are upset with capcom.  There's also a rumor that capcom's employees will leave after the cube version is finished, and that mikami won't have anything to do with the ps2 version.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 09, 2004, 01:59:16 PM
*o*

~~~~~

"Duke Nukem BeForever" is any Duke game that came out before Forever.  I've played 1 i believe.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on November 09, 2004, 03:05:22 PM
"Duke Nukem BeForever" is any Duke game that came out before Forever. I've played 1 i believe.

Isn't that all of them?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 09, 2004, 04:09:34 PM
Not necessarily.  There was a series of 2D platform-shooters of Duke during the 386 era.  It looked half as good as Gyromite (visually).
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on November 09, 2004, 05:14:39 PM
"Not necessarily. There was a series of 2D platform-shooters of Duke during the 386 era. It looked half as good as Gyromite (visually)."

I know, I played those.

I was referring to the "BeForever" part.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 09, 2004, 05:50:15 PM
Ah.

Yes.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on November 09, 2004, 11:48:48 PM
----Sorry to cut off your current "Duke Nukem" discussion, but here's some RE4 info----

Merchant Information:

The shotgun will cost 24,000.
The rifle will be 14,000.
The almighty rocket launcher is 30,000.
Silenced Handgun will be 2,000.
And lastly, the stock handgun will be 10,000.

But remember, this is all from the Biohazard 4 disc.  Capcom might change the prices around for the Resident Evil 4 version, but I'm really not sure.

Play-Asia also stated that the bonus DVD will feature a "making-of" Resident Evil 4.

------You can now continue your Nukem discussion -------
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 09, 2004, 11:57:31 PM
Careful with the "spoiler" oriented info.  That was a little too detailed for my comfort.

I'd like to be able to say "AH SHI- THAT'S EXPENSIVE!" out of surprise when my time to see the Merchant comes.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on November 10, 2004, 10:11:39 AM
Also seems that Shinji Mikami and a lot of the staff that created Resident Evil will be leaving Capcom.  Some will be going to Clover Studio like Mikami and the "new" Resident Evil saga will be handed over to mainly new developers.

This unfortunate move will most likely put thousands of plot-holes into Resident Evil 5 if they continue with 4's story or even possibly stories from 1,2 and 3.  Unlikely though.  You can bet that there'll be a whole new storyline... probably a new one for each game?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 10, 2004, 10:14:53 AM
But wasn't it said that RE4 is the last game in the timeline?  So all future games in the series would have to be prequels to RE4(unless Capcom changes their mind)...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on November 10, 2004, 11:06:35 AM
It is capcom afterall.  I'm sure the story line will change and new numbers will be used and fans like me will hate it because mikami's not there.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 10, 2004, 02:19:24 PM
Thanks to a spiffy new virus, Leon will wield 2 firearms at a time and swing a sword full of devil powers.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 10, 2004, 05:49:43 PM
I don't want to double post so look for my post(#13) in this thread
PGC Forum - Other Systems - Resident Evil 4 heading to Playstation 2

That has a link to all the info you are talking about, refering to people leaving Capcom, the status of RE4-PS2 and RE5, and also why the annoucement was made early.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on November 10, 2004, 06:35:40 PM
A new RE4 interview at IGN confirms you do use typewriters to save in the game, but ink ribbons are no longer needed.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on November 11, 2004, 06:15:10 AM
I think its great, the Ink RIbbons really drove me crazy, how mean is that, LIMITED saves.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Odeix on November 11, 2004, 09:41:01 AM
Limited saving too scary? Resident Evil never was for the feint of heart.

Really, RE games usually have you scared of something at any given time... whether it's a zombie or the fact that you haven't saved in the past half-hour and can't until you find a ribbon.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: nitsu niflheim on November 11, 2004, 10:00:34 AM
Resident Evil = Mega Man

amirite?
lol
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on November 11, 2004, 11:34:57 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Odeix
Limited saving too scary? Resident Evil never was for the feint of heart.

Really, RE games usually have you scared of something at any given time... whether it's a zombie or the fact that you haven't saved in the past half-hour and can't until you find a ribbon.



Yes but I guess this makes the game far too frustrating for many people, and noerdays that just doesnt work. People are quickly turned off by such hurdles, unless the game is so awesome you accept anything to beat it.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Odeix on November 11, 2004, 12:13:38 PM
I understand that some people get frustrated by the limited save business, but it really does work well to create a tense atmosphere. I think not knowing how much longer you can hold out before saving again is really cool.

Anyway, you can always play on Easy where they give you about twice the number of ink ribbons you'd ever need.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 11, 2004, 01:04:15 PM
It's like "OMG" you're running around the house trying to find toilet paper.  OH TEH SUSPENSE!

The BioZomboid4 typewriters are probably inkless and are hooked up to WiFi routers or some technical stuff like that so it saves you're progress on the local Ganado Online community network.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Berny on November 11, 2004, 01:49:32 PM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
It's like "OMG" you're running around the house trying to find toilet paper.  OH TEH SUSPENSE!

The BioZomboid4 typewriters are probably inkless and are hooked up to WiFi routers or some technical stuff like that so it saves you're progress on the local Ganado Online community network.


I was hoping we'd get to use villagers' blood to save progress.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on November 11, 2004, 06:11:34 PM
I love that, the more you kill the more you save.  that would be an awesome save system
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on November 11, 2004, 07:30:38 PM
New pictures of Resident Evil 4 on the IGN boards.  There's a total of 14 but they're quite small, so don't have an orgasm yet.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on November 11, 2004, 11:09:34 PM
I hope that the game is long enough, it should imo be a good 20 hours atleast.
ANd I hope its not too much of a pain getting that girl around, I hope she doesnt behave that stupid and just run around like a retard.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on November 12, 2004, 05:07:41 AM
Its better than Ico.  Playing as ashley is my fear.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 12, 2004, 08:57:57 AM
Playing as a young woman in a schoolgirl cosplay outfit surrounded by crazies.  THAT'S Survival Horror.  But what exactly are you supposed to be afraid of... oh....

*o*
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on November 12, 2004, 11:28:11 AM
I just hope this game will feel as perfect as it looks
it really should be awesome in any way possible, if you consider the people behind it
and the long development time

And I actually think I will piss myself when I play that game, altough I wonder how it can be scarier thatn RE with the free camera, that made me go crazy on REmake.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Odeix on November 12, 2004, 12:51:15 PM
Despite a free camera so you can openly see the environment, I think the game's scare-factor increases because the zombies can actually navigate obstacles to get to you.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 12, 2004, 12:59:52 PM
Yeah, there's a tunnel vision aspect to it all.  If you don't see them coming up from behind you, you might definitely hear them (even the demo was wonderful with Dolby Pro Logic II.  I often hear the swipe of a hatchet miss behind me as I run by).  Creepy?  Maybe.  Keep running to a more secure spot?  or turn around and face a screen-filled onslaught of sickos?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on November 12, 2004, 02:39:47 PM
Interesting scans from Famitsu should be translated very soon.  I wonder why Leon has an inventory full of eggs and fish.  Anyway, the scans are located on Page 24 of the topic in the link in the second post.

-----------------------------------------------------

Here's a new Kobayashi interview:

New Kobayashi Interview:

GW: Why the sudden announcement to make it on PS2?

Kobayashi: In order to help stablize our revenue and create better relations with shareholders and increase the value of our stock we chose to port RE4. It was purely a business decesion.

GW: Despite your previous claims on RE4 being GC exclusive.

Kobayashi: When I made those comments, I was the acting producer on RE4. Having said that, at the time it was a choice we made that RE4 could generate a profit (break even) on the GC. And as a producer, that is my only concern. For the game to be reputable and generate pure profit. And I believe it could have. But there are other factors that were outside of the development staff that caused the game to be ported. This deceision was made by non-developers, those whose job is to ensure the Capcom's future finicial sucess. Apparently, the PS2 was seen as extra profit, and thus we were told to port it. My say is only limited, but at the time, and my perspective I was 100% confident and sure it would remain GC exclusive.

GW: Forever?

Kobayashi: As far as I was concerned, sure. But keep in mind, the PS2 port will come 3 to 5 Quarters after the GC release. In our relationship with Nintendo, they still see this game as Nintendo Exclusive.

GW: Can you comment on these rumors about many of the design staff leaving.

Kobayashi: Personally, I'm upset with Capcom's deceision but as a producer I understand where they are coming from. Regarding the other staff, this isn't a rumor. It's truth. They are moving to Clover Studios. However, that is still a studio that is onwed by Capcom. It's a part of Capcom. Profits and pubslishing is still from Capcom etc.

GW: So Mikami is done with the RE series?

Kobyashi: I do not know. Depending on how well some of our newer large titles sell (DMC3 and Viewtiful Joe 2) determine a lot of future things. I cannot say. But if Mikami wanted to , he can and very well make another RE game. Clover studios has full access to the licensing equipment, brands etc that belong to Capcom, and obviously vice-versa. That is why Dante was in Viewtiful Joe (ps2-port). Dante belongs to Capcom but Clover still has rights to him just like any other Capcom Studio.

GW: Is it true that many of the design staff is upset with the higher "ups" at Capcom?

Kobayashi: No. Definantly not. And Never. They are all hardworking people and ultimately, they all want their game to be played by more people than not. We understand that some Nintendo fans are upset, but that is their problem. They need to understand that a company must maximize each games profit to stablize revenue and generate a higher return so we can continue to make quality and ground-breaking games.

GW: You talk about maxing out each game's potential revenue, so why don't you consider porting the DMC series to Gamecube? Being that it's a multi-million+seller, it could certainly find a home on the GC console as DMC and RE are very similar games in terms of target audience and fan base.

Kobayashi: This could happen at many requests...

GW: And finally, what do you have to say to those that are thrilled about the news, those that are concerned for Capcom, and those that aren't so glad to hear what has happened?

Kobayashi: RE4 has been designed for the Gamecube. Beyond that I cannot say more. But certainly keep that in mind. It will also appear on the GC early 2005, almost a year before the PS2 port. That is still exclusive in business relation terms. We only do this to stablize more profit, so that we can create stronger games and help prepare us for the large R&D costs that come with the next-generation consoles. We hope you'll play RE4, it's a great game I am truly proud of. Please, be optimistic that the RE series will now expand to greater lengths and more people can be introduced to the game series they all know and love, and help support.

------------------------------

There is also a new picture of the chainsaw controller at Lik-Sang located here.  It's $50.00 U.S dollars, $65.00 Australian dollars and $39.00 Euro-dollars.

And lastly, here is some RE4 information.  Just be warned, they may be seen as spoilers.

- Sometimes Ashley acts independently while you play as Leon.  Obviously, like already seen in the trailer, you can control her.  Boys, get ready to eat your hearts out as you let her crawl underneath tables.

- Similar to Resident Evil Zero, when you are playing as Leon, you can give Ashley instructions such as, "Wait" or "Follow".

- Also like Resident Evil Zero, you need to co-operate with Ashley to complete puzzles and all that jazz.  For instance, you could see in one of the pictures that Leon was giving Ashley a boost.  All these commands are done by using the 'action' button, 'A'.

- This time round, you can have some fun in Resident Evil by filling Ashley full of bullets.  Apparently, one bullet is enough to kill her, so watch where you're shooting.  If you do kill her or if she does get killed, the game will be over.

- Remember seeing the monks or villagers carrying Ashley away?  Well if they take her away to another location, the game will automatically be over.

- Like seen in the pictures, Leon keeps in contact with a female agent back at HQ... sort of like what Metal Gear Solid had done.  The woman's name is Ingrid Hannigan, but the spelling of her name may be incorrect.  She'll inform you of what's happening or where you need to go next.

- Already stated, you can save as many times as you want without the use of Ink Ribbons.

- Lastly, if you walk into water your connection with Ingrad will be gone for the rest of the game.  This includes being knocked out of the boat at the lake monster battle... ... ...okay, that was only a lie.  Your connection can never be lost.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 12, 2004, 02:51:29 PM
Leon likes fish omellettes (sp?).
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on November 12, 2004, 03:56:14 PM
Well the only thing I can make out in that particular scan is that Famitsu have put a large '!?' next to the fish and egg inventory, so they probably don't know what the hell all that is about as well.  In the egg inventory, Leon is even equipped with an egg.

Strange....  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 12, 2004, 04:14:09 PM
Well, some eggs do restore health in the demo.

Others hike up your cholesterol...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: KDR_11k on November 12, 2004, 08:10:45 PM
Perhaps you need to collect fod to survive like in MGS3 or GTA3.2?

Zero_Plague: Those are called Euros, not "Euro-Dollars". Not every currency is called a dollar.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on November 13, 2004, 08:06:00 AM
If you guys really want to make a difference then you have to get yourselves together and collectivly cry to capcom for some of their PS2 games to go to gamecube.  write letters and write them abundently.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Odeix on November 13, 2004, 11:33:21 AM
"You guys"? If by that you mean the people who visit this forum, read this thread, and actually bother to write letters to video game companies then we are severely short-handed on any campaign effort.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 13, 2004, 12:35:46 PM
That's soooo last week.  Get back to the real Resi4 talk now.

~~~~~

WHATEVERR!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: JGarcia050 on November 13, 2004, 06:22:21 PM
has anyone played the demo of RE 4 yet?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on November 13, 2004, 06:32:26 PM
I have!  its the super cool.  I think I convinced someone to buy a gamecube while I was playing it.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 14, 2004, 12:39:43 PM
I've had the JPN demo for roughly a month, if that counts.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: KnowsNothing on November 14, 2004, 05:23:57 PM
I just played RE4 at a store kisosk today. (pretty eventful day, got some quality time with RE4, DKonga,  Metroid Prime 2, and the DS)

It's the first Resident Evil game I've ever played, or seen in action for that matter, and I only got a few minutes with it.  It's pretty cool.  The environment was really gorgeous.  Leon walks pretty slowly, which provides for some creepy situations, but is ultimatley annoying.  Press R to switch in to "aiming mode' with your laser-guided pistol, which is the only way to really look around (the C-stick moved hte camera up and down, but not side-to-side).  The controls in this mode are not inverted, which is why I had a problem, but it shouldn't be too hard to get used to.  One thing that was missing that would have really helped would be the ability to strafe.  Taking corners without strafing will be creepy, but overall it makes the feeling of moving Leon around too robotic and not lifelike enough (which is apparently THE problem in prior RE games *shrugs*).  Start switches to the map and Y to the menu; I think those two should have been switched.

Overall though it was way cool, but I think for someone without playing a prior RE game like me, it's a better choice to save $20 and get the RE package with RE0 and REmake on it.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 14, 2004, 06:28:24 PM
If walking is slow, why not run?

If you play the demo enough, you'll realize strafing isn't all that useful/important given the [open] design of the village and the urgency of the scenario.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on November 14, 2004, 08:45:14 PM
I'm not sure if this has already been brought up, but someone mentioned in an earlier post that the controls for aiming your weapons weren't inverted (ie. up for down, down for up).  In order to invert the controls, you have to highlight your weapon in the menu, press start, then turn inverted mode on.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: KnowsNothing on November 15, 2004, 12:55:35 AM
Oh.

I only played the game up until I freed a little doggy, which was like five minutes gametime  I thought I had gone through my options, but I knew there had to be a way to run, I just didn't figure it out.  I thought there was probably a way to invert the controls too, just in before game options or something.  Anyway, it was still rad and I will be picking this up someday, probably after a price-drop budgetsbudgetsbudgets
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: KDR_11k on November 15, 2004, 03:24:33 AM
I hate it when a game without penaties for running (i.e. no stealth or stamina) doesn't offer an always run option. Why would you want to walk, anyway?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Deguello on November 15, 2004, 04:37:17 AM
" Why would you want to walk, anyway? "

Because you might step in a bear trap.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on November 15, 2004, 07:53:06 AM
you walk so you don't get hit in the head with an axe from the psycho waiting beside the house
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Odeix on November 15, 2004, 09:01:30 AM
Sometimes walking looks cooler than running.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: KnowsNothing on November 15, 2004, 12:22:26 PM
How about you run when you press the control stick all the way to the side, and walk when you push it just a bit.

Just a thought.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: 1day on November 16, 2004, 03:08:38 AM
The thing is, it's doesn't actually have analogue control right now which is why you would have to press 'b' to run, I suppose. I really hope they don't leave out analogue control because it would make it so much better and be more advanced as well (I know MGS TT could have used this type of control and it felt worse without it).
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on November 16, 2004, 03:22:47 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Odeix
Sometimes walking looks cooler than running.


Certainly, especially when something big explodes right behind you and you hold a pumpgun and look very very angry.

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: KDR_11k on November 16, 2004, 07:58:26 AM
If sneaking has an advantage I'd prefer it to be done by a button press, not with the analog stick since that's too inaccurate. Push one bit too far, WOOOOO! Alert goes off.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on November 16, 2004, 06:44:47 PM
By pre-ordering the NTSC version of RE4 from Play-Asia, you also get an Umbrella Corporation 'Umbrella'.

Some more RE4 hacking with the Action Replay leaves us with this:

Side-Scrolling mode.  This may possibly also be an unlockable feature.

Also, you're also allowed to turn your enemies into various things like cows, wolves, chickens or even bear traps.  You're even able to take them out of the village so that you can freely roam the area.


Also, it's not exactly RE4 related, but if anybody is interested... Outbreak: File 2 will now be online for PAL regions as well unlike the original Outbreak.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on November 17, 2004, 03:01:17 AM
they should have the bald woman that sings this "zombie" song as a
foe in the game, I sure would like to cut her up with a chainsaw
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on November 19, 2004, 12:58:33 AM
Indeed!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 26, 2004, 12:35:29 PM
Apparently the latest Resi4 feature in Weekly Famitsu focuses on Ashley's many potential upskirt moments and how often Leon gets to see her crotch.  It's true.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 01, 2004, 12:25:00 AM
The official US site for Resi4 is up now.
BioZomboid4

There's some decently sized art/wallpapers there, and ~20mb "poster" images.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Renny on December 01, 2004, 05:59:28 AM
They really went out of their way to make that site suck. It's slow. Tiles won't scroll. The music sucks. It exudes lameness in every way. If I could find the hi-res stuff I probably wouldn't be so disappointed.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 01, 2004, 04:59:23 PM
Yeah, it's horrible overall.  Especially the excuse for a "movie."
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on December 02, 2004, 12:24:46 AM
WARNING New Famitsu Biohazard 4 scans contain SPOILERS.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 02, 2004, 12:46:09 AM
Oh?  Like what?  Ashley's top-secret confidential in-game panties??
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on December 02, 2004, 12:52:19 AM
http://ranobe.com/up/updata/up13721.jpg

http://ranobe.com/up/updata/up13722.jpg  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on December 02, 2004, 08:16:43 AM
well, shes hot

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 02, 2004, 01:46:50 PM
Hot mamma.

Call me Zorro and slash that dress off in the name of LUUUUUUV.

A. and A.

Leon will have his hands full.  Happily.  Both hands, yes.

This is just my observation of a screenshot, but apparently while playing as Ashley you can pickup sh1t and throw it at the enemies, I guess to help you run away since Ashley doesn't engage in combat.  I saw her carrying something like a vase or chair, and the action button was highlighted on the screen.  Also, Ashley (and likely Leon as well) can venture thru the game with the aid of a flashlight (sounds like one of the old Resi4 versions huh?).  I'm hoping the lighting/shadows are nice and fancy.  I noticed some very subtle, yet interesting self-shadowing in the demo, unlike Splinter Cell's rediculous super-contrast blackasnight/brightasday shadow/lighting.  Here, some of the self-shadowing seemed to take the outdoor brightness into account.  I want more.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 02, 2004, 02:38:01 PM
Ada looks way different than she did in Resident Evil 2...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 02, 2004, 07:11:25 PM
OH YEAH, what about LEON?

It's been 6 years.  Leon became a REAL man (hello villager woman.  hey don't swing your fork at me, I KICK YOU!), and Lady Red is probably at her "prime," trying to get the attention of the other mallards.

New art direction.

Their heads have more porygons.

We don't have to bother convincing ourselves "CG FMV lady" is one-in-the-same as "PSX in-game lady".


RAAAAUUUUUUR
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 02, 2004, 08:02:46 PM
Leon looks just like he did in RE2... =P

6 years means absolutely nothing when you are in your 20s...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 03, 2004, 09:33:44 AM
CG Leon from RE2 looks like Peter Jacob from Eternal Dorkness.

In-game Leon from RE2 looks like this crap ninja action figure I once got at a flea market when i was a kid.

In-game Leon from RE4 looks like video game boy-band material.

Lady Red from RE2 looks like mysterio-personal-secretary-undercover agent material, and possible bad-dresser big sis to Lei Fang.

Lady Red from RE4 looks like personal-body-massage-therapist material.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on December 03, 2004, 09:40:38 AM
you know they released (or will release) a Leon collection, you can get the jacket, jeans, boots etc, look pretty awesome too, but are goddamn expensive(1€=1.3$), you can look at the stuff on www.gamefront.de, its in german, but just click the picture link on the article about RE4

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 03, 2004, 09:52:30 AM
Dressing like Wesker would be awesome.

dress like BARRY haha
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Renny on December 03, 2004, 03:22:37 PM
I need the bad-ass belt. Could I use it against people in contextual situations?

PRESS "A" TO WHIP CUSTOMER

Oh, and I found the hi-res stuff. The site still sucks, but the images rock hardcore to the max. To Kinkos with my trusty 4Resi belt!  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on December 04, 2004, 11:59:22 AM
Wow, looks like I missed out on a lot.  Sorry for my absence but I've been a little busy.  Anyway, on with the information:

- Eggs, fish and snakes are used to restore health.  I knew about the eggs and fish, but.... snakes?

- It is said that we may be able to play as Ada later in the game and use her wiregun considering that it has a laser attachment.

- A hooded figure that has been seen in several areas may be this unknown, Lord Sadler.  Just for a quick note, the Village Chief and Lord Sadler are two completely different people.

- We may now be able to break glass with our hands instead of wasting a bullet on it.

- There will be optional objectives in the missions to complete as well as primary objectives that have to be completed to pass a certain area.

- For a good summary of all this information and a lot more, watch these multiple videos that gamespot has put up for us:

http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/adventure/residentevil4/preview_6114418.html
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 04, 2004, 12:07:06 PM
Resident Evil Solid 4: Snake Eater, Fish Eater, EGG EATER.

3X TEH EATING.
Oh, I guess Leon can get FAT in this game.

Resident Evil1 showed us the magickal wonders of smoking herbs and foamy first aid sprays to restore health.  Sorry, but ingesting strange items is supposed to be a Konami thing.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on December 05, 2004, 08:50:54 AM
eating is good
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 06, 2004, 12:03:51 AM
Ashley and Ada sittin' in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on December 06, 2004, 09:12:41 AM
its a wonderful thing to see girls kiss, just wonderful
I hope they show this kinda stuff in the game
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 06, 2004, 03:06:16 PM
Oh, I agree!  BioZomboid Prime and BioZomboid 1-1 gave us noteworthy amounts of fan service with Becca and Jill (the classic generation), so it'd be great if Capcom went to infinity and beyond those standards with A+A (the new generation) seeing how just about everything else in BioZomboid4 was overhauled for maximum pleasure.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 06, 2004, 03:25:44 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Clear Ada, not Ashley necessarily, mind you, tho that would've been welcome as well screens that were originally debuted in the lastest Famitsu-whateverissueitwas Magazine at GameSpot.  Hotness.  Thank GameSpot with kisses and hugs and Xmas presents for not watermarking any of the screens including the nice full-body centerfold artwork piece.

I love Asian Cuisine

Great Zephos, if this is her default outfit then I can't begin to imagine what they might have as an unlockable costume.

What if Leon wore Ashley's schoolgirl outfit as his hidden costume?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: StRaNgE on December 07, 2004, 09:14:46 AM
Yesterday my local gamestop called me up and  let me know they just received  RE 4 demo disk that are for customers. It contains a movie  from RE Zero through RE 4 and a playable demo that  is up until the bells sound and the villagers leave  ya to go play bingo.

All I can say is the AI is amazing. Running around, jumping out of windows. Running across roof tops and jumping down off second stories to barley get away from a chain saw is intense.

If you had ever gotten your head gnawed off by the blade then you know exactly what I mean.  

The controls work,  they do take some getting used to after playing halo 2 so much lately but I am hoping they have an inverse look option for aiming. The options on the demo do not work.


If you got a local game stop your well acquainted with then get yourself up there and try and get them to hook you up with a demo. Supposedly they are only supposed to be given out with new cube purchases or other Nintendo products.


On a different note. Is it true that RE 4 was announced for the XBOX shortly after the PS2 port was announced? I am assuming  that the person mentioning that  was misinformed but figured I would check since  the reason for the PS2 port is money then  there is nothing keeping them from doing xbox either.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on December 07, 2004, 11:52:02 AM
Quote

It contains a movie from RE Zero through RE 4
When you say movie, do you mean a four minute video showing some discombobulated game footage, or a long video that goes in-depth into the story line of past RE games?

I've never played resident evil 2-CV, but I read the plot summary of them on a FAQ at gamefaqs.com.  However, if a video summarization is available, that would be really cool.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: StRaNgE on December 07, 2004, 12:43:48 PM
i mean a 30 second clip showing the basic intros and game footage.

would have been real nice  if  it did  have  a 30 minute deal showing the story and  progress of each one.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 07, 2004, 12:50:34 PM
Xbox version not announced.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on December 07, 2004, 06:36:54 PM
Even IGN are loving this game.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 07, 2004, 11:53:55 PM
They don't love it like I can.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: joshnickerson on December 08, 2004, 04:01:26 AM
Wow. That was quick. This demo's been out for what, two days, and there's already like 20 on eBay, selling for upwards of $15-$20 bucks.
http://search.ebay.com/resident-evil-4-demo_W0QQsokeywordredirectZ1QQfromZR8
Which is really funny, because you can just plunk down a fiver and get the demo at any game store. Don't you just love eBay hawks? LOL  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Savior on December 08, 2004, 09:35:34 AM
Theres a demo? lol I played the Demo at the store and loved it... Cant wait till January. Its officially my most wanted title now that Prime 2 has been out...  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: StRaNgE on December 08, 2004, 09:52:03 AM
yes, read a few post above where i  talked about the demo.

you get it when you buy a gamecube or other nintendo product free.

gamestop was informed to not give them out with preorders .

some might be  though so look around.

it is a quick demo like i said above but  really makes ya crave  the game to be here.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 08, 2004, 01:15:30 PM
According to the dudes at my EB, the playable demo is the same stage that was available in the latest GCN kiosk demo disc.  Not a big selling point to owners who have the JPN demo.  They said I'd have to pre-order Resi4 to receive the demo.  That, I'm NOT going to do since I already pre-ordered with Capcom.com
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: SgtShiversBen on December 08, 2004, 06:27:37 PM
After getting the demo, this game officially creeps me out more than any game I've played in my whole life.  I never EVER want to be alone in a European village.  I think it was worth it.  I wasn't going to pick this game up in January, but now after playing it (and watching the newly converted intros to the old resi games) I'm going to have to, it's just that great.  So all in all, this little preview disk was worthy of the five dollars I paid, plus it comes in a GameCube case.  Now I can replace some of my more ugly cases. SCORE!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 08, 2004, 07:20:19 PM
I just bought (as opposed to bid) one of those demos off eBay for $24.  Still cheaper than buying the "Pure Evil" box set for just the demo.  It's kinda silly seeing the latest bids go over $25 when there's a few "buy it now" listings still available for only $20+shipping.

Cumulatively, I've spent well over $100 on this phenomenon called "Resident Evil 4" over the past year, and yet I still don't have the actual game.

- May 2004 Famitsu Wave DVD (first official, "debut" trailer)
- Sept. 2004 Famitsu Wave DVD (2nd trailer, from E3 2k4, tho sadly had VHS quality)
- Weekly Famitsu Capcom Special Issue (JPN Bio4 demo, high quality E3 trailer)
- Jan. 2005 Famitsu Wave DVD (hopefully it's the 3rd trailer, from TGS 2k4)
- U.S. Resi4 demo
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: zelos_rules on December 09, 2004, 11:18:14 AM
Hey has anyone here ever ordered off www.lik-sang.com? Im planning on buying Resident Evil 4 from there and I want to know how long it will take to ship and how much the total cost will be, I dont understand all the mumbo jumbo on the page and im wondering if any of u can help me. I live in Melbourne, Australia incase any of you were wondering.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 09, 2004, 01:09:04 PM
I'm a recurring Lik-Sang customer living in the U.S.  I've mostly bought Japanese magazines and small Dreamcast accessories.  On average, my orders arrive 2 full weeks after I receive the email announcing it's been shipped -- all this considering it must travel from Hong Kong, across the Pacific, to California.  From Hong Kong to Australia, I'd imagine would have a shorter shipping time, but an actual Australian Liksang customer would give you a better estimate.

Standard Air Mail shipping for 1 magazine costs me US$4.

Liksang usually sells new JPN or US games for roughly US$60, while it costs US$50 for people in the States.  A $10 increase.

But since you want Resi4, I guess you're in luck.
Resi4 Liksang

Liksang's currently offering the game (pre-order) with Free shipping worldwide, for a limited time, so your TOTAL cost will only be about US$60.

~~~~~

As an alternative, Play-asia.com is offering Resi4 for just US$50, and US$3 for worldwide shipping.  Play-Asia is also based in Hong Kong, i think, and this might ultimately be cheaper.  Another good store.
Resi 4 Play Asia  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: joeposh on December 09, 2004, 01:18:43 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
I just bought (as opposed to bid) one of those demos off eBay for $24.  Still cheaper than buying the "Pure Evil" box set for just the demo.  It's kinda silly seeing the latest bids go over $25 when there's a few "buy it now" listings still available for only $20+shipping.

Cumulatively, I've spent well over $100 on this phenomenon called "Resident Evil 4" over the past year, and yet I still don't have the actual game.

- May 2004 Famitsu Wave DVD (first official, "debut" trailer)
- Sept. 2004 Famitsu Wave DVD (2nd trailer, from E3 2k4, tho sadly had VHS quality)
- Weekly Famitsu Capcom Special Issue (JPN Bio4 demo, high quality E3 trailer)
- Jan. 2005 Famitsu Wave DVD (hopefully it's the 3rd trailer, from TGS 2k4)
- U.S. Resi4 demo


No offense but you buying it for 24 dollars is kind of silly... all you had to do was go to Gamestop or EB, but 5 bucks towards a pre-order and they'd give it to you... you don't have to pick up the game if you don't want to, worst case scenario your out 5 bucks but get a demo disk.

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 09, 2004, 01:34:06 PM
Yeah, that's true.  But I wouldn't do such a thing with "my" EB.  If I make a pre-order with them, I intend to complete the transaction and buy the game from them.  But I'm not buying Resi4 from them in the first place.  But if I was allowed to pre-order say, the new Zelda, to get the demo, I would've done so.

From a slightly different viewpoint, the potential demo copy I might've gotten would've been put to better use by someone who's still new to the experience, given that I've had the JPN demo since it came out.  I mainly want the US demo for collecting purposes.

And I'm not fond of GameStop.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: zelos_rules on December 09, 2004, 02:40:19 PM
Thanks Professional 666. You helped out heaps.

So you have demo? Can you tell me if the ammo and herbs are scarce or not? Also is there moments in the game when your caught offguard by countless enemies in different directions?

You dont have to answer them but it would be nice if you could.

Thanks
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 09, 2004, 03:56:01 PM
Sure,

The abundance and locations of items in the JPN and US demos are different.

- In the JPN demo, I know there are 4-5 separate herbs out in the open than can be picked up.  You just have to find them yourself, of course that may be difficult the very first time if you're being chased.  Similar things can be said of ammo/grenades.  There's enough herbs/ammo lying around to get you thru the demo if you're not wasteful -- enough to let you try out different options and strategies.  There's also a number of breakable boxes/containers which randomly hold ammo/herbs/money/or nothing at all.  Additionally, enemies will randomly drop money/health/ammo depending on how(method) and how well(were you hurt?) you defeat them, so there's the potential to fill your inventory with lots of great stuff -- and thus more gory blasto fun for you.

- In the US demo setup in GameCube kiosks, the locations of all the plain-view items were different, except the shotgun.  There seemed to be less free herbs lying around.

Being caught offguard from different directions is largely up to the player.  Where you decide to stand and aim, what weapons you use, and how well you can clear a crowd of crazies factor into this.  If you stand in the middle of the town, where you can at least have 5 meters (radius) of space all around you, they'll definitely try to approach you from your blind spots.  One time, I stood between a narrow strip between 2 houses and I focused my aim at a group closing in from one opening.  Sure enough, another group approached from the opposite end in an attempt to make a Leon Sandwich.  They're like the raptors from Jurassic Park.  The enemies in your view "stupidly" tend to slow down once they're fairly close to you, sort of inviting you to shoot them.  What they don't want you to know is their brothers and sisters are running at you from behind so they could drive an axe into your back while you're busy paying attention to Uncle Jorge -- it's a subtle example of misdirection and teamwork on their part, and usually unfolds in a matter of seconds.  So, some nice RUSTY STEEL surprises can be derived from your positioning and your ability to keep track of the enemies.  Whether you wish to constantly run-stop&shoot-run, or back into a dead end to create a "divide & conquer" scenario, its apparent the Village was designed to let you try a variety of strategies.

I'm usually not caught offguard because I can hear them coming: I can hear them shouting, I can hear them stepping (great audio, btw), tho that doesn't mean I always had time to react.

The enemies weren't countless, tho it can feel that way.  There's enough for a nice shooting gallery, or enough to tell you your ass should RUN.  In the demo, the flow of incoming villagers seemed constant.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on December 09, 2004, 04:12:39 PM
http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200412/N04.1208.1705.48146.htm

Huge new Resident Evil 4 preview/interview. Don't click if you're worry about (minor) spoilers though, but I don't think anyone in this thread cares about spoilers, otherwise you wouldn't be here.

Frothing demand increasing.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 09, 2004, 04:47:27 PM
Don't click if you don't like GameInformer.

Zelos: i sent you a private message.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: zelos_rules on December 09, 2004, 07:24:37 PM
Hey thanks Proffesional Im watching the vids now.

Thanks for your impressions as well. You told it straight and put it in a direct form so that us stupid people (me) can understand. Thanks man you helped me out heaps.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 09, 2004, 08:12:31 PM
You requested info, so that's what I tried to provide.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: zelos_rules on December 10, 2004, 09:59:44 AM
Thanks Profesional.

I just finished watching the videos and now I cant wait for this game. I like how you arent given too much ammo but enough to get by on the borderline of comfortable.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 10, 2004, 12:35:45 PM
In the 4th video, I love that one part right after I kill the Chainsaw Dude, some lady fell off the roof of the house and she was like "GeeeYAAAAGH!?" *THUMP*.  I didn't know she was even back there, so that's why Leon paused for a second, cuz I paused for a second to think "WHAT THE HELL??"  Then I laughed my ass off.  Apparently, the buckshot from the shotgun spread far enough to hit her in addition to Chainsaw guy.

A moment later, that group ran up to me then I blew that lady's head off, but she kept walking for a couple seconds before finally falling.  HILARIOUS!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: zelos_rules on December 10, 2004, 01:01:10 PM
LOL yeh I noticed that. It was pretty funny stuff. Another part of the videos I liked is the moment where you jumped the fence in Vid 3, there was a villager right behind you and as you jumped he attacked you. He JUST narrowly missed you. If you were any slower than you my friend would have been dead.

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 10, 2004, 04:02:24 PM
Nah, just irritated.  *_*
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 10, 2004, 04:11:41 PM
Ahaha, the woman falling off the roof is classic...I'm saving this clip forever... =D
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on December 11, 2004, 01:58:18 AM
Apparently Capcom have forced many websites to withdraw their latest videos and media because they didn't like us seeing the spoilers in them. Go Capcom!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on December 11, 2004, 09:37:42 PM
Okay, it has now been confirmed that Ada Wong IS a playable character in RE4.  I'm not sure if it has already been stated in the past, but it seems that you are able to obtain the Village Chief's glass eye one way or another.  By the way, Pro666... did you happen to register at Resident Evil Horror by any chance?  I'm just curious, you seem very similar to another member there on the forums.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: attackslug on December 12, 2004, 05:05:37 AM
Zreo_plague:
This is my first post, and probably my last as well.  Enough with the spoilers, please.  
It is really frustrating to scroll down while reading about demo impressions and then hit a post like yours.
Dammit, I don't want to know all this "classified" crap that hasn't been officially released or made public by
the gaming media, I'd like to find out about it on my own!
At the very least, mark your posts as spoilers and block out the text like every other considerate member does here.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on December 12, 2004, 05:47:57 AM
Yeah I agree.. but if you really want to avoid spoilers you'll avoid this thread.

That was a big bombshell in that post just there though
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on December 12, 2004, 10:31:13 AM
Heh, sorry guys.  I've edited the post if it makes it any better, but I didn't really see it as that big of a spoiler.  I'll make sure that I don't let them slip by in the future.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 12, 2004, 05:40:20 PM
Indeed, I did register at reH.  It's a great info resource for Resi4 stuff.  However, since the site's redesign/board change, I haven't been able to view the Resi4 threads anonymously, so I signed up.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on December 13, 2004, 11:32:32 AM
Apparently GMR gave it a 10/10.

I have no idea if that's accurate, but if true, cool.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 13, 2004, 12:34:41 PM
Nice of them to magickally play the full version of the game while the onliners only played the first chapter a week ago.

~~~~~

Gameplay detail to help clear things up for everyone:

Survival knife attacks are activated by holding the L-trigger, while firearms are still activated with the R-trigger.
From milkman.1up.com

Swiftly open item box without wasting ammo GET!!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on December 14, 2004, 03:10:58 PM
Yes, and the review we've all been waiting for, Maxim gave it 5/5!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 14, 2004, 03:34:27 PM
Maxim closing comments:
"Biohazaaaado is teh sexy.  Ashley will be in our February issue.  Checkit out."
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on December 14, 2004, 05:40:46 PM
GMR (God rest its soul) did gave it perfecto.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on December 14, 2004, 05:58:20 PM
There you go.

I had a feeling Maxim would follow suit. How could they not?

Ashley, Ada and female villagers, oh my.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 16, 2004, 01:56:33 PM
Hi-rez version of the TGS 2004 trailer.

see Media Blitz!! pg10
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on December 16, 2004, 03:32:33 PM
Haha, 1000th post.  Go me.

i tink da chensaws shoud b alaiv
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on December 18, 2004, 03:52:19 AM
Leon is hot.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 18, 2004, 12:15:59 PM
SUMMON FIRE EXTIGUISHER ELEMENTAL
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Munky on December 19, 2004, 10:58:58 AM
Anyone else notice that in the new Best Buy ad, they have RE4 as a Player's Choice game, and that you can get the Player's Choice games 2 for $30?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: SgtShiversBen on December 19, 2004, 12:08:03 PM
Too bad it's just the first Resident Evil, not RE4.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on December 19, 2004, 02:07:05 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Munky
Anyone else notice that in the new Best Buy ad, they have RE4 as a Player's Choice game, and that you can get the Player's Choice games 2 for $30?



Yep.  My parents bought me SCII and Simpsons: Hit and Run for Christmas with that deal.

Even at Christmas time, out to save money.  Lousy Scrooges.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on December 21, 2004, 02:17:42 PM
Ugh, sorry for my absence again.  I just got a new game so I've been a little addicted to it.

Anyway, here is a small amount of information (that may be old) that has been taken from the sexed up version of reH.

Capcom has said that Resident Evil 4 will be released on March 18, 2005.  We're hoping that this is the true release date for PAL areas and that it will not be delayed... again.  Also, I'm not sure if it has been said recently, but the PS2 version of RE4 that is released a year after will now happen to inclue new features and without a doubt, new cut-scenes.  

Things just get better every day, don't they?  I'm sure that Nintendo are feeling happy about this :S .
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 21, 2004, 02:40:04 PM
Leon will have all-new Slow-Down powers on PS2, yay.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on December 21, 2004, 02:52:50 PM
Bullet-time 24/4, baby.  Hells yeah.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on December 26, 2004, 01:57:34 AM
Resident Evil 4 has gone gold.

ARE YOU READY?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 26, 2004, 03:10:55 AM
I'VE BEEN READY SINCE mAY.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on December 29, 2004, 12:37:19 PM
New pictures located here that show Leon having a boss battle where he can only use his knife.  The enemy also appears to be human and by the looks of things, he might very well be Nicholai from Resident Evil 3.  Also in the set of pictures is a kinky man who some people are guessing to be Lord Sadler considering that he seems to be very well protected by them two evil guys standing behind him.

Another picture can be located here



Evil evolves in 12 days and 14 hours... Not too much longer to wait.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 29, 2004, 02:16:44 PM
Ok, something is DEFINITELY wrong with that one guy...So creepy ;_;
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 02, 2005, 04:49:55 PM
Got the demo, the game kicks ass.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on January 03, 2005, 12:38:32 PM
Some quotes from GMR's review to get people excited,
Quote

"RE4 is magnificent. It's a terrific, if tardy, showcase for the Gamecube, and it's every bit as worthy as the Halo's, the GTA's, and the MGSes of this generation. This is a stunning return to form."

Quote

"RE4 can scare you in ways that horror movies will never achieve."

Quote

"However, Resident Evil 4 is the one to bring it all back. Within the first five minutes of picking up the controller, you will realize that this is the new genesis of survival-horror."

Quote

"If only it didn't take so long for decent controls, efficient item management, and a ribbonless save system; I might have been an RE fan sooner. Gorgeous in its desolation. RE4 Will Be Remembered As One Of The GC's Defining Moments."

Quote

10/10


The Re4olution is almost here!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on January 03, 2005, 12:48:35 PM
I didn't need to read that.  This will be one of the longest eight day waits ever.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on January 03, 2005, 01:05:03 PM
Hey at least you don't have to wait 'til March.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on January 03, 2005, 01:06:42 PM
The following "may" be considered spoilers....


Not too long back, Capcom mentioned that there will be multiple cut-scenes in RE4 (obviously), but that's not the suprise yet.  They stated that some cut-scenes will give you control of Leon and here are some examples.  I previously posted the pictures that you saw where Leon was fighting another human during a cut-scene.  Well, although it is a cut-scene, you'll have control over Leon by hitting buttons that will dodge and attack and so forth.  Another small example of this is the corridor that is guarded by lasers.  A cut-scene will take place but you'll still have to do work to jump, dodge, duck and do fancy tricks over the laser beams.

According to Capcom, these interactive cut-scenes are very intense and won't be as easy as they sound.  Other minor examples would be the cut-scenes where you have to push 'A' as fast as you can to out run the giant boulder or swim back to your dinky boat in the lake after the monster knocks you out of it.



Other information:

The official website for the chainsaw controller can be located here.

Some new pictures located here show some concept art and an action scene that'll take place on the mine carts.

A new screenshot from the upcoming trailer here.

Take a look at this cute covering for your gamecube here.

Pictures here that show the laser corridor scene that I mentioned earlier.  Just scroll down the page until you find them.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: SgtShiversBen on January 03, 2005, 01:54:14 PM
Amazingly, I've already seen advertisements for this.  I was amazed.  HORRAY for Adult Swim.  I honostly have to say that I've played this game's demo more than I've played some of my games and that's pretty sad.  Can't wait to get it though.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 03, 2005, 03:36:37 PM
Leon got to see Ada's crotch.  UNFAIR.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on January 05, 2005, 01:18:15 AM
IGN has put up some interesting information located here.  Also be sure to check out the new screenshots on IGN here.


...Not too much longer to wait!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on January 06, 2005, 09:01:14 PM
 Gamespy have reviewed it

http://cube.gamespy.com/gamecube/resident-evil-4/577819p1.html

5 / 5

Thanks to the Pro for finding this before it was officially posted, through a work of genius.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 06, 2005, 09:10:51 PM
Yeah, we read it an hour before it's scheduled showing.  It wouldn't have been possible without Gamespy's Wipeout PSP preview (LOL).

*o*
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on January 06, 2005, 09:28:56 PM
IGN have reviewed it!

http://cube.ign.com/articles/577/577841p1.html

9.8
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on January 07, 2005, 07:19:54 AM
I never thought I'd be more excited for this game than I am for Minish Cap.

I like how IGN gave it a 9.8... same score as Halo 2.

But I am slightly predisposed to be pissed off, as of now. I can't imagine any game worth a higher score than MP2's. Unless RE4 becomes my new favorite game ever, I disagree with the score.

Here's hoping it does...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 07, 2005, 07:27:25 AM
I'm still not anticipating this as much as Minish Cap, but I'll still pick it up alongside it next weekend...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Renny on January 07, 2005, 11:31:45 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mario
IGN have reviewed it!

http://cube.ign.com/articles/577/577841p1.html

9.8


The game is officially good. IGN hath told us, the feeble peons of this Earth.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Caterkiller on January 07, 2005, 05:46:36 PM
Wow that review is great. I havn't replied around here in some time. I just reserved mine today and my EB on City Walk at Universal Studios had the demo disk, but the guy there didn't know if he was supposed to give it away when I did the pre-order or when I pick up the game. But its alright I have Mario DS and Baten Kaitos to keep me busy for now.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Chongman on January 07, 2005, 06:57:09 PM

he was supposed to give it to you then....it's a demo, c'mon. :-P

I got my demo today.....holy...crap...

it's even better than I thought it would be....

my only complaint was I thought the villagers would sidestep out of my aim more often...but oh well. The demo still blew me away.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on January 07, 2005, 06:59:52 PM
With the walkthrough guides that have been popping up recently, members on all Resident Evil boards are going crazy.  Their comments are either VERY negative about what has just been revealed or VERY positive.  I'll post briefly what has been happening.  And please know that the following are going to be HEAVY spoilers:





- The 'Garrador', which is a boss in the dungeons actually turns out to be a common enemy in the game.
- There will be 2 El Gigante's.
- Los Plagas is an ancient plague that the cult has discovered.
- This 'plague' brings empty suits of armour to life...
- Lord Saddler actually turns into a spider that Leon fights later on. ('Pennyface the killer clown' anyone?)
- During the Saddler boss fight, Ada throws a rocket launcher onto a platform (A nice way of showing that Capcom can't be bothered to create a new boss death for once)
- A pendant is said to be cursed by anyone who holds it.... okay...
- Wesker and Hunk will be playable once you unlock them in a mini game.
- Some monks can carry rocket launchers.
- The full name of Saddler is 'Oswald Saddler'.  Some believe that this may have relation to 'Ozwell Spencer'.
- Jack Krauser is the boss with the knives I believe.  Leon previously worked with him.
- Bitores Mendez is the village chief.
- Ramon Salazar is the pirate boy.  Although, my memory is blank, so I can't remember no pirate being in it....
- Scan 1, scan 2, scan 3, Scan 4, scan 5.



Just to answer your possible question that might spark up later.... No, you were not drunk while reading all that.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 07, 2005, 07:54:24 PM
(spoiler)texthere(/spoiler)

replace () with []

Please, PLEASE use spoiler tags...It's common courtesy...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on January 07, 2005, 07:57:02 PM
Holy crap, WHY would anyone want to know all that before playing the game? WHY?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on January 07, 2005, 08:00:44 PM
Oh EM GEE. so glad I stopped myself before I started reading that.  there should be a don't post super major spoilers 4 days before game realse rules.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on January 07, 2005, 08:02:09 PM
lol, who know's what is true I will be surprised. Or Zero here will die a sad, horrible, slow, Aggronazing death. in which he'll never sleep again
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on January 07, 2005, 09:01:35 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Zero_Plague
And please know that the following are going to be HEAVY spoilers:


Well I did warn everyone that the following were going to be HEAVY spoilers.  If you happen to read the dot points before the opening paragraph, then I have no sympathy.  If it still troubles people, I'll include spoiler tags.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on January 08, 2005, 01:00:27 PM
Okay, here are some new scans.  And to make sure that none of you miss it this time....

--THESE SCANS MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS--

A whole load of information about the weapons is located here.  Information about the Los Plagas is located here.  Information about Armaduras is located here.  And lastly, information about Colmillos is located here.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PlatinumKnight on January 08, 2005, 04:45:11 PM
This post will attempt to predict Gamespot score for Resident Evil 4 using its past scores of other Resident Evil games among other data. I know there are other threads on this, but I don't think they are as scientific as this one. They are more opinioned based. In other words mine is special because I got stats.

Greg Kasavin will do the review for this game, and it will be posted Monday night. For some of his notable reviews he gave a 8.7 to MGS3:SE, a 9.5 to World of Warcraft, and a 9.7 to Metroid Prime.

Gamespot has reviewed 22 Resident Evil Games(Resident Evil(PS)10-25-1996 to Resident Evil Outbreak(PS2)3-31-2004). The average for these 22 reviews are 6.89.

The average of the best versions of the games in the main series is 8.72

Resident Evil 0(GCN)8.0            
Resident Evil(PS)8.2            
Resident Evil:Remake(GCN)8.9
Resident Evil 2(N64\PS)8.9
Resident Evil 3:Nemesis(PS)8.8
Resident Evil:Code Veronica(DC)9.5

The average score for other recently released high profile AAA games is 9.14

Half Life 2(PC)9.2
Doom 3(PC)8.5
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes(GC)9.1
Halo 2(XBOX)9.4
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas(PS2)9.6
Metal Gear Solid 3:Snake Eater(PS2)8.7
World of Warcraft(PC) 9.5

Facts (Taken from gamerankings.com)
-No game in the last 2 years has gotten higher than a 9.6
-The average score from Gamespot is 67.9.
-Gamespot reviews are higher than average 43.9% of the time and lower than average 56.1% of the time.
-There is a 2.6 point difference between IGN-Cube and Gamespot Reviews. That would give Resident Evil 4 a 95.4(98-2.6) if it holds true.


Top Scores (Taken from gamerankings.com)
-The last game (1 of 4) to get a perfect score was Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3(PS2). 10/28/2001
-The last game to get a 9.9 score was Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2(DC). 11/6/2000
-The last game to get a 9.8 was Wario Land 3(GBC). 6/1/2000
-The last game to get a 9.7 was Metroid Prime(GC). 11/17/2002
-The last game to get a 9.6 was Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas(PS2). 10/26/2004
-The last game to get a 9.5 was World of Warcraft(PC). 11/23/2004

Conclusion:
I think the most important part is the score they gave Code Veronica which was a 9.5. Obviously RE4 is the better game. I think that 9.5 was a slight overrate. My prediction of Gamespot RE4 Score is a 9.5. There are three reasons I won't go any higher.

1. It has a slightly harsh reviewer.
2. Gamespot has been stingy with very high scores over that last two years.
3. Gamespot score is usually lower than Cube-IGN score.


Score 9.5 Gamespot Editors Choice
Gameplay 9
Graphics 10
Sound 9
Value 9
Tilt 10
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on January 08, 2005, 07:13:00 PM
.....

It's impossible to predict someone's enjoyment of a game using those formulas. 7.9 sorry.

I predict 9.3
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: RABicle on January 08, 2005, 07:22:36 PM
Is Gamespot like the dickheadgamer's bible or something? Who gives a rats arse what they score it? Everyone knows that if scores matter to you, gamerankings.com is the only thing that counts. And besides in the real world do reviews whcih narrow down to nearest 0.1 are bullshit. When you ask your friend if a game is good does he/she reply with "Oh yeah I'ld give it 8.6". What a crock of shite. Is a 6.7 game really better than  6.6 game? Does the same apply to 9.8 and 9.9 games?
All in all it's bullshit.
Games should be scored with a fist system. Excellent games get the double fist, good ones get the full fist. Average games get no fist and everything else is weak.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on January 08, 2005, 07:28:16 PM
No, everything else gets punched by a fist or two.

Which just makes a five star system.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on January 09, 2005, 10:41:49 AM
A new review at eToyChest gives Resident Evil 4 96%.


A few more scans (may contain spoilers inside):

Ashley Graham - The review gives you a slight idea of why the Los Illuminados kidnapped her.

Luis Sera

Jack Krauser

Profile for Ada Wong

Ramon Salazar - What.... the.... Hell....?

Information on the Novistadors

Information for another boss fight who goes under the name... U3

A scan of commandos possibly being in the game.

Information confirming that there will be 2 Gigantes


I think it's one more day now till the game's release.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mario on January 09, 2005, 02:15:20 PM
Only 96%? I think I might have to pass on Resident Flop 4 now.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Gamefreak on January 09, 2005, 10:48:33 PM
9.6 from Gamespot...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on January 10, 2005, 03:23:30 AM
Well guys, Resident Evil 4 has been released.
I won't get it until a week though, maybe even 2.  (Bloody Lik Sang)

Anyway, give me all your impressions
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Savior on January 10, 2005, 05:14:03 AM
Wow amazing score by Gamespot. Love it. GOTY 2005 already
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on January 10, 2005, 10:29:04 AM
Does anybody here know what the "Special Edition" consists of?  It's $10 more than the regular one, and I want to know if it is worth it.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Uglydot on January 10, 2005, 10:35:18 AM
I haven't read a review in yeras, and yet, I find myself making fine choices and enjoying all of my games anyway.  Interesting...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on January 10, 2005, 11:56:16 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Myxtika1 Azn
Does anybody here know what the "Special Edition" consists of?  It's $10 more than the regular one, and I want to know if it is worth it.


Information about the special edition can be found here.  I personally don't see why there would be much reason to get it, although all that I'd be really interested in is the cel art.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: chain chomp on January 11, 2005, 05:33:34 AM
i got this gametoday my (my local game shops get early shippments )and this game is AMAZING i wasnt a HUGE fan of RE4 before but now its my fave game ever PERIOD................................................
p.s my spelling is gettin better isnt it (been using a dictonary)
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: attackslug on January 11, 2005, 10:15:29 AM
Got it at EBgames today.  Yikes...
Looks good, plays great, and is lots of fun.  There are quite a few shocks in only the first subchapters already -- it seems like it is truly going to be a great game.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 11, 2005, 01:17:52 PM
UPS dropped mine off today.  I'm glad Capcom wasn't tardy this time.

T-SHIRT GET!!

First thing's first, I'm gonna capture the intro.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: VideoGamer on January 11, 2005, 02:47:39 PM
I have been waiting for a resident evil game just like this they finally got rid of the cheesey zombies now they have added villagers in some secret cult this one is going to be the best
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: VideoGamer on January 11, 2005, 03:19:49 PM
I am totally craving for this game its the new resident evil game so it has to be good the fixed camera great installment it is going to easy to control....this game has to be scary man those villagers with the burlap sacks on their head freak me out and to make them even scarier they are holding a chainsaw!!!! i am totally getting this for my birth day!!!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on January 11, 2005, 03:20:22 PM
RE4=God
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: VideoGamer on January 11, 2005, 03:22:00 PM
yes re4 is GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ShutEye on January 11, 2005, 05:07:59 PM
Haven't posted in along time, so
Here are some impressions of the first chapter without spoilers:

The graphics and especially art direction are great. There is some excellent use of subtle colouring with reds, and greens that really eccentuate the superb modeling. And the brown tone of the game works too, unlike Resident Evil 0.

The level design keeps one of the core fundamentals of the Resident Evil series, Exploration, despite a rather linear progression path. Nooks  and alleys and little hidden treasures keep the spirit of discovery alive with in simple, limited maps. Great work.

The group dynamic of the villagers is exciting, adds tension and provides a satisfying strategic experience as figure how not to die.
That said, the A.I. can be weak on occasion, when villagers stop approaching you because you backed off a fair bit.

There are some really neat special effects that the GC is doing. Hopefully we'll see other games that use these. (Please Capcom, use this engine for one more game on GC, any game.)

For those of us that played Resident Evil: Code Veronica's 1st person Battle Mode ... Man have they ever improved the controls.

And finally, my highest level of praise; the pacing is amazing, you get breaks when you need them. You can often choose to fight or run. You have all sorts of weapon choices. The story pops up when you need a rest. Excellent pacing, definitely the most difficult and significant accomplishment by Capcom yet.

And I've only played the 1st chapter.

Thanks for listening.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 11, 2005, 05:51:35 PM
No... we should thank YOU.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Rhoq on January 11, 2005, 05:56:36 PM
ShutEye - excellent assessment. I'm just a little ways into Chapter 2. I forced myself to stop playing so I could get ready for bed. If I hadn't I would still be playing - and not make it into work tomorrow morning, LOL.

RE4 is nothing less than spectacular. It has to be seen to be believed. It's so good that about 5 minutes into the game I granted Capcom forgiveness for bringing RE4 to the PS2 later this year. There is no way in hell the PS2 version will be this impressive.

So...who else (that bought RE4 at GameStop) opted for the Limited Edition Collector's Tin? As soon as I saw it, I had to have it. It's just such a classy looking package (I don't care for the RE4 cover art) - not that I care about the cover, but I figured RE4 was going to be somethig special, so I might as well go all out. The RE Prologue (bonus booklet) isn't anything worthy of mention but the numbered laser cell is beautiful and easily justifies the addtional $10.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Munky on January 11, 2005, 05:59:05 PM
I picked up my copy today and I must say, I have yet to be disappointed with the game.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NightfallInfernal on January 11, 2005, 07:28:28 PM
I got my copy today, I am only at the end of the second chapter but I must say I am very satisfied and impressed. A definite 'must-buy' for all GCN owners.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on January 11, 2005, 10:50:14 PM
There's something I must know.

Are there subtitles?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on January 11, 2005, 11:01:19 PM
From what I believe, there are no subititles in Resident Evil 4.

Anyway, it's great to know that everybody is enjoying it.  From what I hear on reH, it gets really hard and some people have said that they've died at least 20 times already, namely from the rolling boulder.  RE4 hasn't shipped as of yet for me, but according to Lik-Sang, they'll have it here just after the end of this week, can this is going to be the longest wait I've had in a while.

Also, great thing is is that there are heaps of modes and extra cool stuff to be unlocked, so replayability will do nicely.  Can't wait to see your videos, Pro666.

Anyway, I'm heading off now to anticipate this game even more.

Good luck.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on January 12, 2005, 01:56:50 AM
"From what I believe, there are no subititles in Resident Evil 4."

^%@#.

There goes most of my anticipation for this game.

What the hell is that about? Didn't RE1 have subtitles? Would it kill them to just stick in whatever script they're feeding the actors? Screw Capcom, I've got half a mind not to buy this game anymore.

At least tell me whatever they talk about isn't important.

I'm not exaggerating or nitpicking here... I'm hearing-impaired, this means a lot to me.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 12, 2005, 02:00:22 AM
Paladin, unfortunately, there are "No" subtitles, tho I've only been as far as the 2nd Typewriter.  Much like the Remake and RE Zero, the real-time cinema are absent of subtitles, though the FMV prologue has its narration written-out on the video itself.  The only subtitles (that coincide with speech) I've found are during the radio communications (which are important as far as game objectives and directions are concerned, and can be accessed in the File submenu for reference).  The rest of the subtitles are the usual, adventure-gaming pieces of info you get from examining your environment with the action-button.

Someone else needs to elaborate on the dialogue (how important are they, and are they important to the gameplay or just the general plot?) of the later cutscenes.  I'm still extremely early in the game, and probably will remain there for the next few weeks.

~~~~~

Observations:  The villager AI is noticeably faster and more vicious (calculating) than they were in the demos.  Definitely intense.  And the surround sound wonderfully enhances the sense of dread and panic, if you chose to let yourself be immersed in the game atmosphere (having the fearless point-n-shoot attitude would just be missing the point).

~~~~~

Zero, the intro video(s) I just capped are probably the last I'll get from Resi4.  There's enough spoilers around as it is.      
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Rhoq on January 12, 2005, 07:52:03 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
At least tell me whatever they talk about isn't important.

I'm not exaggerating or nitpicking here... I'm hearing-impaired, this means a lot to me.


Unfortunately, the dialog helps to move the story along. If you're unable to hear what’s being said, there’s a good chance you’ll be missing out on essential plot revelations. I too, would have preferred the option of having subtitles because I like being able to read along with the dialog.

Sometimes voice acting is not very clear and reading it makes that unintelligible dialog much easier to deal with. While I wouldn’t tell anyone not to buy RE4 (because it’s just that good), since you are hearing impaired, you might want to consider a rental first so you can check out exactly what you’d have to deal with - if you were to buy it. Playing through the first chapter should provide enough sequences with dialog for you to be able to gauge whether or not RE4 would be an enjoyable experience for you, despite your hearing difficulties.
 
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: KnowsNothing on January 12, 2005, 03:49:19 PM
PaLaDiN:  Keep your eyes peeled later on down the line for a script to be put up at gamefaqs or gamespot or the like.  Mayhaps even joining the forums and making requests would help.  You could even try emailing the dude who did the walkthrough already up at gamefaqs: Benn@Linger.com

I don't have the game, so I can't help D=
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NightfallInfernal on January 12, 2005, 03:59:08 PM
The game is really tough but the part you mentioned Zero_Plague is nothing compared to some of the other stuff you have to do.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on January 12, 2005, 04:56:00 PM
OMG!! I just got the game tonight, I can't wait to play it. My dad is the greatest. He brought it for me, he's a great guy. I'm so hyped.

I was able to get the Making of DVD. Although I'm abit dissappointed since this is the same as the Documentary at Gametrailers.com at 5mins or better. seems a waste of a DVD if they didn't want to put more than that.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on January 12, 2005, 08:29:33 PM
"Unfortunately, the dialog helps to move the story along. If you're unable to hear what’s being said, there’s a good chance you’ll be missing out on essential plot revelations."

If that's all, I can deal with that. Game plots usually suck anyway.

I guess what I'm asking now is, do they say anything in the game that you actually need to know in order to figure out what to do, or am I going to have to consult a walkthrough at points?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Rhoq on January 13, 2005, 12:32:25 AM
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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
If that's all, I can deal with that. Game plots usually suck anyway.

I guess what I'm asking now is, do they say anything in the game that you actually need to know in order to figure out what to do, or am I going to have to consult a walkthrough at points?


All of that dialog seems to only occur through Leon's radio and, yes, there are subtitles. Subsequently, I've also noticed that Leon tends to report any major story revelations that occur in the cut scenes during his radio communications, so even without being able to hear what's being said in the cut scenes - you should get most of the "juicy" parts of the plot reiterated through the radio transmissions.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on January 13, 2005, 07:22:49 AM
Oh, good, that sounds perfectly bearable then. I've dealt with worse.

Thank you, for your words are glad tidings that bring peace to my soul.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Rhoq on January 13, 2005, 08:00:58 AM
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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
Oh, good, that sounds perfectly bearable then. I've dealt with worse.

Thank you, for your words are glad tidings that bring peace to my soul.




I’m happy for you.

Now go out there and kick some demonic, cult-religious villager ass!

When you get a chance to play it, please update us on your experience. I’d be quite curious to read how the game holds up in your situation. While minor, there are certain audible cues that alert you that trouble is coming – a change in musical score or villagers yelling in the background. Even with that, the game is incredibly challenging. While I’m sure it’s playable without being able to hear all of that, I just couldn’t imagine playing RE4 without having that (and I’ll use the word loosely since the game is hard) “advantage” of knowing a few seconds ahead of time that you’re about to have a run-in with some of the locals. Not being able to hear those cues must increase the difficulty level since every attack would be unexpected.

On second thought, not having those cues would probably make for the ultimate survival horror experience since you’d never be fully prepared for who/what ever is waiting to attack you. I might give it a try tonight – playing with the volume muted. It would be a whole new way to play.
 
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on January 13, 2005, 08:31:15 AM
Edited for spoilers:

I just got through Chapter 2, and I have Ashley. Poor Leon, they did something to him. I fought the "Thing under the Lake" and died several times in the process, but in the end I wore the beast down and like Ole Abe I stabbath The, with a spear

El Gigante is another beast entirely, It's a gruesome battle, but I will say this, "an Aqcuitance" will come to your aid

Heh, Ada saved my butt, I take it she left the note in the shed after the battle with Teh Thing.


I find the controls work... rather well. Only problem is that I had to fixed my C-stick to stay in neutral positon so I can control the camera when needed.
I do love it when the villagers run into those explosives, heh Classic!

I'm loving it, but I do wonder if we'll see this "3rd party"? Is lord Saddler what's left of Umbrella???... hmmm, intresting!

And what of Wesker? More questions are raised, and hopefully they will be answered.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Rhoq on January 13, 2005, 09:28:05 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: MysticGohan24
El Gigante is another beast entirely, It's a gruesome battle, but I will say this, "an Aqcuitance" will come to your aid



This is where I am now. I have my own theories on the psychological nature of this foe…

While it’s purely speculation on my part, I will make it into a spoiler since it does contain a small amount of detail which could be a spoiler for some folks.

Right before you get to the first “el Gigante”, Leon finds out that 3 of them were created. While I’m probably wrong – I have a feeling that “el Gigante” isn’t necessarily evil. I think he’s mistreated (by villagers) and misunderstood. Since all he knows is violence, that’s all he can give. When the dog appears, it looks to me like he is chasing the canine around the courtyard like a massively overgrown child – looking to play, not to kill. This leads me to believe that “el Gigante” has the mind of a child and is only doing what it’s been taught to do. It is my gut feeling that perhaps by the time Leon reaches the third giant man-beast, he’ll be able to turn it against the villagers and make “el Gigante” an ally. I know I’m most likely reading too much into the situation and over analyzing this event, but still I have to wonder.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on January 13, 2005, 09:33:00 AM
lol, that would rock if that where to happen. I didn't know there was that many. Where did you get the info from? I must of passed it. I'm too busy blowing thing's up and running like it was my last supper, and I can't be late for Jesus
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Rhoq on January 13, 2005, 09:57:56 AM
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Originally posted by: MysticGohan24
I didn't know there was that many. Where did you get the info from?


I could've sworn there was a cutscene just a few minutes prior to first seeing "el Gigante" where Leon was informed of the creatures' existance and was told that a total of 3 were created. Although now that you ask, I'm not quite sure if this really happened.

As it turns out I had a weird RE4 dream last night (seriously) where I saved Leon from "el Gigante" while it was distracted by the dog running around the courtyard. I pulled Leon into a shed and revealed a hole in the floor which lead to an underground cave. Weird dream, huh? This is game is so fu*kin' awesome I'm dreaming about it, LOL.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on January 13, 2005, 10:03:13 AM
lol, dreams that come to haunt you, or give you an advance

Intresting.... Man I met Lord Saddler, he's creepy, he reminds me of morbious from Soul Reaver.
The Chief is like friggin lurch.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NightfallInfernal on January 13, 2005, 04:08:34 PM
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I could've sworn there was a cutscene just a few minutes prior to first seeing "el Gigante" where Leon was informed of the creatures' existance and was told that a total of 3 were created. Although now that you ask, I'm not quite sure if this really happened.


There are actually four, eventually you'll have the pleasure of fighting two simultaneously!. This Game is very tough.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Rhoq on January 13, 2005, 05:12:32 PM
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Originally posted by: NightfallInfernal
Quote

I could've sworn there was a cutscene just a few minutes prior to first seeing "el Gigante" where Leon was informed of the creatures' existance and was told that a total of 3 were created. Although now that you ask, I'm not quite sure if this really happened.


There are actually four, eventually you'll have the pleasure of fighting two simultaneously!. This Game is very tough.


Damn. It took me about an hour to figure out how to finally beat that son of a bitch, LOL. Once you learn how to handle "el Gigante", it's pretty easy to beat.  It took me a good 30 minutes before I saw the CLIMB command appear at the bottom of the screen because I was trying to keep my distance...

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on January 13, 2005, 05:12:55 PM
4? Oh Shyte?? Double Trouble, good lord oh sweet jeebus. That's hell
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Caliban on January 13, 2005, 05:47:40 PM
Does anyone know where/how to register this game? It's says in the back of the manual but apparently not even the url they provide is for registration, all I got on my monitor was a contest registration.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on January 14, 2005, 12:28:59 AM
I just found out the ending for RE4, and it's pretty amazing... it even leaves it open for Resident Evil 5.

Anyway, thanks for the videos Pro666, I'll be watching them soon.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ResidentEvilGC on January 14, 2005, 01:09:11 PM
I have a question.  I pre-ordered RE4 on Sat. Jan. 8 from Capcom's web site, Does anybody know about how long it will take until I receive my game?  I have been waiting for this game since it was announced and I dont know how much longer I can sit and wait.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 14, 2005, 01:36:49 PM
You pre-ordered your game quite late.  It's either in the last batch of shipments to roll out of Capcom in Sunnyvale, or it was pushed back into the post-release shipment, assuming the earlier pre-orders exhausted the initial stock.  And since you ordered on a Saturday, I bet the order wasn't processed until the following Monday, the 10th.  At this point, I have no clue when you'll be receiving it.

I pre-ordered from Capcom last September, and received my game on the 11th.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: odifiend on January 14, 2005, 01:41:33 PM
I ordered and December and got mine the 12th.  I know my roommate ordered the 9th and Capcom had actually ran out of RE4.  A good sign for Capcom, but not for you.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MagicToenail on January 15, 2005, 04:07:04 AM
nevermind, I figured it out.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on January 16, 2005, 11:14:38 PM
Well, I've got the game now... haven't got far at all (just the second typewriter) but I love it so far. All kinds of scary, especially since I never played the demo.

It seems the radio does tell you where you need to go, thank God for that.

Also, playing this game with hearing aids is crazy. I can still notice the dramatic music cues that mean an enemy's nearby (they do get your heart racing) as well as assorted screams and shouts (in Spanish, I take it... so you guys aren't getting that much more out of it unless you know Spanish) but I have no idea where they're coming from so I run around like a crazed rabbit and kill everyone in sight but they sneak up behind me and stick axes in my back.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: WuTangTurtle on January 17, 2005, 01:01:43 AM
If this isn't the best game this generation, then i dunno what is.

And if there is a better game this generation well...........I dunno if i can handle any more greatness!

Seriously me and my friend are now about the same place and we both have gone through the game a bit differently and we laugh at each other because i seem go let enemies get extremely close to me and knife them but i sometimes get my head chopped for being dumb, and i laugh at him cause he has stepped into a lot of bear traps, lol.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Rhoq on January 17, 2005, 04:28:52 AM
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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
Well, I've got the game now... haven't got far at all (just the second typewriter) but I love it so far. All kinds of scary, especially since I never played the demo.

It seems the radio does tell you where you need to go, thank God for that.

Also, playing this game with hearing aids is crazy. I can still notice the dramatic music cues that mean an enemy's nearby (they do get your heart racing) as well as assorted screams and shouts (in Spanish, I take it... so you guys aren't getting that much more out of it unless you know Spanish) but I have no idea where they're coming from so I run around like a crazed rabbit and kill everyone in sight but they sneak up behind me and stick axes in my back.


PaLaDiN - It sounds like you are able to hear just about everything. How do the cutscenes hold-up? Is that dialog a problem for you?

Everything about this game is downright creepy (wait until the sun sets – and you have to go through a cemetery. It is probably the eeriest experience I’ve ever had playing a game. Previous RE games have touched on this scenario – but that was nothing compared to the way RE4 does it.

Unfortunately, I didn’t have time to play this weekend and I’m literally stuck on Chapter 2-2 (no one left to kill and apparently nowhere to go since all of my exits are blocked off). I’ll figure it out once I get a chance to play again.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Rhoq on January 17, 2005, 04:32:37 AM
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Originally posted by: ShaolinKilla
i laugh at him cause he has stepped into a lot of bear traps, lol.


Those bear traps are a pain in the ass – BUT they do teach you to pay closer attention to your surroundings. Step in enough of them and sooner (or later) you’ll be on the lookout to make sure you don’t see any being masked by the shadows. Unfortunately, Ashley isn’t too bright and just can’t seem to avoid getting her ass caught up in those bear traps.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: VideoGamer on January 17, 2005, 05:21:47 AM
resident evil 4 came out on my b-day i was so excited the gamplay is kick ass over the shoulder is easier to control villagwers are harder to  beat bosses are the best more action than puzzles to solve this game is god of all video games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my post is a train wreck
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NWR_Lindy on January 17, 2005, 07:29:16 AM
I just gotta chime in here and say that if you don't own Resident Evil 4 (and your mommy will allow you to have it), GET IT.  It's much better than I ever thought possible.

It's less "old-style Resident Evil" and almost breaks into first-person shooter territory.  It's kind of like a first-person shooter with a smidgeon less freedom control-wise, but I love how it's relatively free-roaming and you can backtrack as much as you want.  It doesn't even feel like it's part of the Resident Evil series, to be honest.  It feels like it's a takeoff of the series that's been done by a different developer, that's how different it feels.

And oh yeah, the graphics are AMAZING and the boss battles are INSANE.  I'd say it's the best game on Gamecube, with Metroid Prime/Prime 2 coming in a very close second.  I really can't rave about it enough.

silks  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: smf1978 on January 17, 2005, 07:39:00 AM
To say this game is anything but the best is an understatement.  I love the new over the shoulder cam.  I am in chapter 3 now and this game really ramps up the difficulty once you get here.  My only issue is how dark it is, maybe it is just my TV, but my XBOX and DVD player show up nice and celar, oh well, the darkness can be worked around, this game is awsome.  Gotta go play!!!  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on January 17, 2005, 08:01:45 AM
"How do the cutscenes hold-up? Is that dialog a problem for you?"

Yeah, can't hear anything they say in cutscenes. Just a lot of babbling to me. Oh well.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Gamefreak on January 17, 2005, 08:16:03 AM
Notice how a single critic hasn't said anything negative about this game. Some people didn't like Metroid Prime 2. Some didn't like Halo 2. Some didn't like World of Warcraft. Some didn't like San Andreas or Snake Eater. A couple were even disappointed with Half-Life 2. But no one is complaining about Resident Evil 4. One look at metacritic.com (like gamerankings, except they don't accept reviews from all sites, just the mags and sites that are quality stuff, and they take submissions for new sites, and they also weight reviews from respected publications like Gamespot higher) will show that Resident Evil 4 has an overall rating of 97 at the moment, with the lowest review a 90/100. Metroid Prime also has a 97 (and that's with 68 reviews) and only had 2 reviews in the 80's. Ocarina of Time has a 99 and is the highest rated game, and all reviews for it are 100 except 3, which are all in the 90's.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Rhoq on January 17, 2005, 08:36:59 AM
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Originally posted by: smf1978
My only issue is how dark it is, maybe it is just my TV, but my XBOX and DVD player show up nice and celar, oh well, the darkness can be worked around, this game is awsome.  Gotta go play!!!


If you go into the "Options" there is something there for video. It allows you to adjust the game's contrast.

Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Rhoq on January 17, 2005, 08:48:48 AM
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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
Yeah, can't hear anything they say in cutscenes. Just a lot of babbling to me. Oh well.


You're not missing much other than the typical overacting - although it's much better than in most other games. Any major plot revelations made during the cutscenes are communicated back to Harrigan (or whatever her name is) over the two-way radio.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hostile Creation on January 17, 2005, 10:01:50 AM
I've never been a fan of the Resident Evil series, but I'm seriously considering getting this.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NightfallInfernal on January 17, 2005, 11:33:49 AM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
I've never been a fan of the Resident Evil series, but I'm seriously considering getting this.
I really do not see how you would enjoy this game if you did not like the first three...

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 17, 2005, 12:38:55 PM
Gunplay.  Atmosphere.  Variety.

I'm not a fan of the series, but I'm a fan of the STARS and the "Mansion Incident" and all the 50+ year backstory leading up to the Mansion Incident.  I like the Remake and Zero.  But I've little to no care for what happened between RE1 and RE4.

I'm enjoying RE4 more than RE1 and RE0 combined.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hostile Creation on January 17, 2005, 01:43:46 PM
Exactly.
Besides, it's not as though I absolutely hate the series, I just never bought it because I preferred other games.  This looks like a good game, I might give it a try.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Famicom on January 17, 2005, 06:58:03 PM
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Originally posted by: NightfallInfernal
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
I've never been a fan of the Resident Evil series, but I'm seriously considering getting this.
I really do not see how you would enjoy this game if you did not like the first three...


I played RE1 (Remake) and RE2 for N64, and I liked neither. RE4 is probably one of my all time favorite games now. Controls and presentation can make THAT much of a difference.

Having completed the game now, in hindsight I must say it wasn't THAT hard (this coming from one who died 50 times ); it was a little bit below 'just right' IMO. There were a couple spots where I became strapped for health or ammo, but nothing major. All of my deaths came from trial and error situations and not out of frustratingly impossible ones, so that's great. I laughed after each time I died in a new spot because it felt like  a challenge. Once you get the controls down and beef up your weaponry, the rest is fairly simple. After El Gigante I beat every boss on the first try. It really wasn't all that scary either. The only parts where I got remotely scared were when I faced the prisoner and fighting a regenerator for the first time. Perhaps I was having too much fun to be scared or something.

All that said, it's really small nitpicks against one of the best games I've ever played. Hopefully for RE5 Capcom will focus on beefing up the fear factor (and adding a strafe perhaps? Even if it was only an A button function to come around corners with?) since everything else is pretty much perfect.

Also I must say I really wasn't expecting a GUN WAR to break out between Leon and Co. against the monsters near the end. That was kinda weird.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 17, 2005, 07:01:36 PM
"Having completed the game now, in hindsight I must say it wasn't THAT hard"

You've got to be joking... ;_;  Arg I suck at games and will quit gaming forever! (6 hours in and having nervous breakdowns)  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on January 17, 2005, 07:13:35 PM
lol poor Bill, I've Beaten RE4 took me about a week. Damn saddler was annoying, he paid with his life mwhahaha.

But I do have to ponder, is umbrella really dead?

Intresting revelations I've learnt.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Gamefreak on January 17, 2005, 09:07:28 PM
Well keep spoiling away why don't you.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 17, 2005, 10:28:11 PM
I'm only up to the 3rd or 4th Typewriter.  Died twice at the BOULDER.  The very last time I got felt intense panic was in the initial village when i made a stupid decision to stop and shoot a villager when El Miracle Blade was trailing behind me.  I heard his "battle scream" and the BUZZ of the CHAINSAW behind me (love you, pro logic II).  Leon's head fell off, but that wasn't the source of the scare.  It was that audio cue which communicates a sudden increase in danger.

The very last time a game made me "jump" was playing Tales of Symphonia last nite where i was running around the overworld and rotating the camera THEN AN ENEMY AVATAR APPEARED OUT OF NOWHERE AND RUSHED ME.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on January 18, 2005, 02:37:36 AM
Huh... the chainsaw guy was supposed to appear in the village? He didn't show up for me... guess I got lucky.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 18, 2005, 02:49:00 AM
Aha, Paladin, that's ISN'T possible... =O
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on January 18, 2005, 02:54:38 AM
I'm telling you it happened... no idea how or why.

Hope there's nothing wrong with my game... is there a hard difficulty or something? I'm playing on normal...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 18, 2005, 03:06:30 AM
Are we playing the same game?  *o*

Yeah, that very same village 10min into the game where you first pickup the shotgun.  You'll automatically trigger the Chainsaw guy if you enter the "shotgun house" within the time limit.  Otherwise, I guess you could run around the village without entering that house, and play until the bell rings.  I usually didn't wait that long in the demo cuz i wanted the satisfaction of 12-guage buckshot.  However, you could've found Chainsaw Dude manually since he was waiting at the designated exit.  Kill him there, enter the shotgun house (get the usual cutscene), then Chainsaw Guy comes back so you can kill him a second time *_*
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on January 18, 2005, 03:09:39 AM
Oh, that makes sense now... I killed all the villagers without a shotgun. Didn't find it until after the bell rang... was just killing villagers with the handgun left and right.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 18, 2005, 03:34:54 AM
Using the handgun alone is extremely fun in its own way...

What you said sounds very much like a Metroid/Zelda strategy, Paladin.  Kill everything now, investigate later, heh.  Why not replay the beginning village sometime?  I think it's such a great opening to the game cuz of the variety of ways you can approach it.  Like, in contrast to staying outdoors, just pickup some ammo and run directly to the shotgun house.  Once you're there, "defend it."  Keep the crazies at bay while they try to pour in thru the front door and the upstairs windows.  Or goto the adjacent house and defend its tiny roof.  Or from the beginning, fight your way from house to house to pickup all the items available while everyone's chasing you.  All sorts of laughs and panic will ensue.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 18, 2005, 06:48:21 AM
I also follow the "Zelda" strategy, mainly because I'm running around shrieking like a little school girl as Mr. Chainsaw is barreling down at me after taking 3 shotgun blasts to the face... ^_^  Oh, and I have a question...Did they lengthen the amount of time it takes for the bell to sound from teh demo?  I haven't played the demo in a few months and it seemed much longer in the game...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 18, 2005, 07:24:38 AM
I haven't heard anything official about that.  I've always felt the impression that the sooner I destroy Chainsaw Dude in the name of Barry, the bell rings less than a couple minutes afterwards.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on January 18, 2005, 10:05:16 AM
I just went through the village again, for a lark. It turns out I was right. There's a cutscene that triggers Chainsaw Man if you step into the shotgun house. I didn't go there, I went to the house on the far right and defended the door with my handgun, killing all the villagers I could on the way and spending some time outside battling waves of villagers and in all the other houses first. Weirdly enough that was the only house I left for last, call it intuition or something, it just seemed too big to explore with villagers on my tail. It turns out there's no need to trigger Chainsaw Man in the first place, there's probably a time limit or villager kill limit that you can meet without killing or triggering him.  I did kill a whole lot of villagers.
And yeah, I did adopt a Metroid/Zelda strategy... kill first, explore later. Good guess.
Finally, if I may add, the best house to defend is the small one on the right furthest away from you as you enter the village. As far as I can tell there's only one door to keep track of... but you do need to be good at shooting them so they don't rush and kill you while you reload. And by the way, the adrenaline rush when that happens...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NightfallInfernal on January 18, 2005, 10:17:42 AM
Has anyone else noticed how linear this game is?  You are usually just running down a path collecting stuff most of the game and once you get to one place you cant go back to others. Im starting to feel that the older Resident Evil games are far superior to this one...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 18, 2005, 10:20:03 AM
I like the more linear feel to it, as it's most similar to RE2, my favorite RE game...I like visiting new places for this style game, not running around in the same areas 20 times...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on January 18, 2005, 10:30:54 AM
It may be linear in level design, but the sheer amount of ways you can approach any one level or map section is just amazing. Think of the levels as a series of complex sanboxes. With weapons instead of little plastic shovels. I mean the village alone, for heaven's sake... wow.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: odifiend on January 18, 2005, 11:42:22 AM
Yeah, Bill, this one does feel a lot more like RE2, which is up until now the best RE I've played (All but Nemesis).
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 18, 2005, 02:54:54 PM
Oh c'mon, for the sake of a nervous breakdown, do the "less smart" thing by defending the shotgun house.  Blocking the door and the lower window does buy you a little time, but I give Chainsaw Dude a lot of credit for his varied attempts at entering the house.  Let's just say no barricaded door is safe from his "master key."

*o*
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on January 18, 2005, 03:10:44 PM
How does one hide text. I beat the game and am afraid of spoiling stuff.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ib2kool4u912 on January 18, 2005, 03:58:10 PM
I believe it's <spoiler> </spoiler> only replace those with brackets.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on January 18, 2005, 05:28:29 PM
got it. has anyone unlocked the chicago typewriter yer I'm going with something small just to make sure it works, that way if it doesn't no one will read this and have a siezure
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Famicom on January 18, 2005, 07:50:37 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: MaleficentOgre
got it. has anyone unlocked the chicago typewriter yer I'm going with something small just to make sure it works, that way if it doesn't no one will read this and have a siezure


I haven't yet, but I'm definitely ready to play through a couple more times for it.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hostile Creation on January 18, 2005, 08:40:08 PM
Crap, looks like I'll be getting this.  I just need that freaking job.
Now to decide if I should get this or Minish Cap first.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: WuTangTurtle on January 19, 2005, 10:34:46 AM
I bought both and RE4 has taken over my gamin life since its release, I've tried to play Minish Cap but i just end up getting the RE4 craving.  I'll play Minish Cap during school but thats about it.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on January 19, 2005, 01:07:45 PM
Is it really that obsessively awesome?
I personally disliked REmake, it didnt motivate me at all?
But I see perfect or near perfect scores all around, so it must be good.

Your advice, will this game appeal to someone who wasnt exactly overwhelmed by REmake?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: odifiend on January 19, 2005, 01:24:36 PM
Definitely.  It is almost a different experience entirely.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on January 19, 2005, 01:27:03 PM
Yeah, it's a completely different experience.

It's a massively satisfying action game now. With lots of creepiness.

I didn't like RE1 so much... but I'm finding myself replaying through portions of this game because they're just that fun.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Balrog on January 19, 2005, 01:41:22 PM
Basically RE4 is more oriented to killing enemies than puzzles like in previous RE games.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on January 19, 2005, 05:18:21 PM
Basically RE4 is more oriented to being the best game ever than previous RE games.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on January 19, 2005, 06:19:21 PM
breaking news (ie tommy tallarico is the dumbest human being on the face of the planet) he gave the game a 7.5/10. yeah.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ruby_onix on January 19, 2005, 07:48:13 PM
Semi-random question: Is RE4 supposed to be widescreen?

My brother was just playing it, and he mentioned that it "felt funny". Then we noticed that it was widescreen (our TV isn't). And we can't remember it being that way before.

We can't find anything in the options to make it widescreen/fullscreen, so does it maybe auto-detect? And maybe it's auto-detecting wrong on out TV right now?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 19, 2005, 07:49:36 PM
Nope, the game was made to be widescreen (It fits the style of the game better)
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NightfallInfernal on January 20, 2005, 03:17:36 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: MaleficentOgre
breaking news (ie tommy tallarico is the dumbest human being on the face of the planet) he gave the game a 7.5/10. yeah.
He isnt a dumb human being, he just has a different opinion than you, saying that someone is a "Dumb human being" because they gave a game a lower score than you think is a really daft thing to do. Im sure he had his reasons. I can see how the game falls back in many areas, in my opinion it is not on par with its predecessors.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Renny on January 20, 2005, 03:27:22 AM
He has a rich history of being the dumbest human on the face of the planet. He doesn't like teh I LOVE HALO 2 gamez.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: couchmonkey on January 20, 2005, 04:58:14 AM
I do recommend the game for people that didn't like the control in other Resident Evils, but bear in mind that if you just don't like or care about horror, you probably still won't love this game.  That was my experience, it's a great game, but horror just doesn't suit my tastes.  I might pick it up when it goes Player's Choice.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on January 20, 2005, 08:45:36 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: NightfallInfernal
Quote

Originally posted by: MaleficentOgre
breaking news (ie tommy tallarico is the dumbest human being on the face of the planet) he gave the game a 7.5/10. yeah.
He isnt a dumb human being, he just has a different opinion than you, saying that someone is a "Dumb human being" because they gave a game a lower score than you think is a really daft thing to do. Im sure he had his reasons. I can see how the game falls back in many areas, in my opinion it is not on par with its predecessors.


He gave guilty gear a 2/10 because it was 2D.  He gave MP a 7, suffering a 9, DMC2 a 9, ninja gaiden (xbox) a 7. do I need to continue.  He doesn't give nintendo games anything over an 8.  He gave Paper mario a 5 because he doesn't like to read. I can go all day with reasons he shouldn't be allowed to speak.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on January 20, 2005, 08:58:11 AM
Death to Tommy Tallarico, the grease monkey needs to have..... alittle accident. "heh, get my drift?" What's the mob number for hiring a hitman listed?  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on January 20, 2005, 12:43:19 PM
btw, how much would you consider this game to be a strain to your mental balance?
if it is so damn scary and creepy as people say, mustn it be an enormous strain to your
heart and mental health and general wellbeing?
since the mind affects your body, do any of you suffer from chronic diarrhea yet?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 20, 2005, 12:49:15 PM
My leg goes into spasms when I'm playing, and my paranoia factor has risen a bit lately...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ib2kool4u912 on January 20, 2005, 01:00:50 PM
Never heard that question asked before when someone was considering getting a game.........
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hostile Creation on January 20, 2005, 02:11:18 PM
Huh.  I'll probably check this out, maybe borrow from someone, before I buy it.  May even wait for the price to drop; even now there are too many games I want out without this getting in the way.  Don't let me forget, though, because it does look fun.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Caliban on January 21, 2005, 05:45:11 AM
I was playing the other day RE4 and suddenly I noticed that my character only walked, so is there any way for him to run? It was getting quite boring with just the walking. I did check the manual but probably skipped it. Great game btw even though I've switched to Minish Cap because it grabbed my explorative instinct even more.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on January 21, 2005, 05:48:02 AM
Just hold B while walking.

You've been playing this game the whole time without running?

Also if you press B and down on the control pad at the same time he does a quick 180.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ThePerm on January 21, 2005, 06:17:51 AM
as far as tommy tallirico goes...he seems to have something against the resident evil series...i can see why of course....the graphics were mroe of the focus in the more recent ones than the gameplay and the games were rather tedious...but Resident Evil 4 is alot different...and really fun too. Im not sure if he jsut reviewed the game in this way because he through reputation will review re games bad or if he really played it and didnt like it. I mean the controls were horrible in the other games..and these are similar...but they are great in reality.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on January 21, 2005, 09:48:31 AM
Can anyone help me? I'm curious about something. When do I get the Matilda, Imfinite Launcher, Chicago Typewriter? I'm already at the castle and haven't seen them for sale yet. and it is on my 2nd time through with special outfitts.And I did unlocked them

any ideas?  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on January 21, 2005, 05:41:34 PM
the matilda can be purchased after beating the game, as with the rocket launcher. you have to beat Ada's mini game for the chicago typewriter (just an awesome weapon) and beat mercinaries with everyone for the handcanon (its a waste of money if you get it first)
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Savior on January 21, 2005, 06:37:39 PM
Quote

as far as tommy tallirico goes...


Tommy=Idiot.

Tommy is just sour that Nintendo fired him from Metroid Prime. Hes become the biggest Nintendo hater ever since. Ive stopped watching his show after his E3 2004 special where he said the GBA had a better E3 than the gamecube. I cant wait till Zelda releases, he will probably give it a 2/10 because Zelda doesnt show her boobies. What a hack.

Oh RE4 is good Very Scary, especially to me since Spanish is my first language. When you understand the townfolk its more scary!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Famicom on January 21, 2005, 06:48:46 PM
MysticGohan24: If you didn't see the Matilda and Infinite Launcher for sale at the start, perhaps you didn't load off your completed game. Or perhaps you saved over your completed game. That's a big no no....
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on January 21, 2005, 06:59:04 PM
Yeah, But how should I go about that? Instead of starting a new game I should load my end file instead?

That would be round 2 correct?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on January 21, 2005, 07:00:53 PM
Yeah I've unlocked everyone in Mercanries, Wesker and Krauser are awesome
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Caliban on January 21, 2005, 08:16:56 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
Just hold B while walking.

You've been playing this game the whole time without running?

Also if you press B and down on the control pad at the same time he does a quick 180.



I'm a total goof ain't I?! I have only died twice until now and to imagine that I've only walked for 4 hours and that I only fought at snail speed! I can't wait to start running. Well I'm still at that place where the beast is pulled out by the villagers and I can't wait to see Leon dieonce again .
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on January 22, 2005, 06:24:03 AM
Hunk is my favorite character from mercinaries.  The ability to break necks is choice.  As far as the handcanon goes I wasn't a big fan of it.  I'm guessing I'll have to keep upgrading it, because right now its useless to me. but that's okay because the typewriter and RL are doing just fine.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: odifiend on January 22, 2005, 07:03:58 AM
Ah...how do you do this supplex that Matt and co. keep ranting about?  I feel like I'm missing out... :/
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on January 22, 2005, 09:17:29 AM
Indeed, I read that too. Is this true? Or is matt diving into the dumpster filled with dirty needles again
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Famicom on January 22, 2005, 09:46:54 AM
Shoot the knees, then as their kneeling (knees on the ground) get close and it should show up as an A button function.

Oh, and yes MysticGohan24, just load the flashing green complete file to start a new game with the extras. Just remember not to save over it!  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on January 22, 2005, 12:24:56 PM
Ok I've did that, Load instead of saving over I've got Leons RPD costume and Ashley is wearing a very skimpy outfit
I'm in the caste 2nd round and Ashely walked into the turnning wall trap.

Anyone wonder about Wesker's involvment? Krauser and him have both Mentioned Resurrecting Umbrella, yet didn't wesker went to work for another company? I remember seeing the intials on his shirt H.C.F. in Code Veronica. Hmmmm.... Couriser and couriser, Wesker has the T-Virus, T-Veronica, G and now the plagas. what is he gonna do with them all? heh
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: WuTangTurtle on January 23, 2005, 12:52:16 AM
I heard that the lake monster can kill you if you stand on the dock too long, is this true?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: smf1978 on January 23, 2005, 02:51:25 AM
Not exactly, you supposedly have to shoot into the water a bunch of times on the dock, some sort of glitch thingy.  Surprisingly after beating the game, when you are playing it again in round two, I found one of the most fun things to do is shoot a cow with a magnum, after I beat the game in the wee hours of the morning, I started over, and maybe it was becuase I was so tired, but i just started picking off cows with my magnum, quite satisfying I tell you......lol
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on January 23, 2005, 03:17:13 AM
do enemies respawn in this game? or are they dead for good when theyre killed?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: odifiend on January 23, 2005, 03:21:32 AM
They die for good, but sometimes enemies are resent to an area after you're lured into a false sense of security.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on January 23, 2005, 03:38:46 PM
they feel like the respawn because they're so many, but they don't.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ThePerm on January 24, 2005, 09:43:42 AM
and alot of them look alike unfortunately...but eh what can you do? spend a billion man hours designing different looking Ganados?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 24, 2005, 09:56:38 AM
hey hey hey, some guys do wear hats!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: odifiend on January 24, 2005, 11:46:27 AM
BOTTLE CAPS!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: TMW on January 24, 2005, 05:49:56 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: odifiend
BOTTLE CAPS!


DAMNIT!!

I can't get more than one.  I suck!  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 24, 2005, 06:14:08 PM
Don't know if it's been posted or if anyone's keeping up, but RE4 is *currently* the #5 rated game of all time - http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp?rankings=y  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NightfallInfernal on January 26, 2005, 10:43:56 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Brandogg
Don't know if it's been posted or if anyone's keeping up, but RE4 is *currently* the #5 rated game of all time - http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp?rankings=y
I'm tired of all this crap about how this game is so great, it isn't.  I found it to have extremely linear repeditive gameplay, the enemies AI, which many claim to be great, is bad and worst the game is basically just a huge escort mission for Ashley who is an idiot and can't do anything, Does anyone actually enjoy escort missions? I don't see how anyone could. By the middle of the second disc I found this game so bland that I just stopped playing all together.

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on January 26, 2005, 10:51:51 AM
Good for you, you have an opinion contrary to the status quo. Such a rebel. Leave us alone and let us enjoy our game in peace.

Ask me about Prince of Persia sometime.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: recio on January 26, 2005, 11:54:47 AM
RESIDENT EVIL 4 ARTWORK
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Dasmos on January 26, 2005, 01:55:20 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: NightfallInfernal
I got my copy today, I am only at the end of the second chapter but I must say I am very satisfied and impressed. A definite 'must-buy' for all GCN owners.


Changed you mind then...........so now it's not a must buy?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 26, 2005, 02:08:42 PM
This thread fails.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: KnowsNothing on January 26, 2005, 03:01:59 PM
This thread rivals the Newbie Check-in thread.

That's what Pro666 SHOULD have said.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NightfallInfernal on January 26, 2005, 05:13:27 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
Good for you, you have an opinion contrary to the status quo. Such a rebel. Leave us alone and let us enjoy our game in peace.

Ask me about Prince of Persia sometime.
I like how you assume that I am some sort of rebel for stating my opinion, so I'm a rebel for not having the same opinion as you? I was simply replying to the post that said that this game was one of the top 5 five games of all time, which is by far one of the most absurd claims I have ever read.  And no, I no longer believe that it is a must-buy maybe a must-rent for the fun that there is in the beginning. So sorry for adding my opinion to this thread, I'll leave you cool guys to your highly over-rated games that everyone has to think are great!

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on January 26, 2005, 05:52:27 PM
"I like how you assume that I am some sort of rebel for stating my opinion, so I'm a rebel for not having the same opinion as you? I was simply replying to the post that said that this game was one of the top 5 five games of all time, which is by far one of the most absurd claims I have ever read. And no, I no longer believe that it is a must-buy maybe a must-rent for the fun that there is in the beginning. So sorry for adding my opinion to this thread, I'll leave you cool guys to your highly over-rated games that everyone has to think are great!"

I wasn't even serious.

Have a good day, sir. Try not to have a heart attack.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 26, 2005, 06:45:18 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: KnowsNothing
This thread rivals the Newbie Check-in thread.

That's what Pro666 SHOULD have said.


That wouldn't really work, cuz this thread's already WINNING!  Newbie thread is just a formidable challenger.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: odifiend on January 27, 2005, 09:22:39 AM
IGN put up RE4 p-revamp.  Pretty cool to look at, but watching it, I'm confident Capcom did the right thing.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 27, 2005, 12:29:39 PM
The old version definitely looked scarier though...Hopefully the next game will involve more of these scare elements mixed with the excellent aiming perspective from RE4...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: KnowsNothing on January 27, 2005, 01:06:14 PM
Quote

That wouldn't really work, cuz this thread's already WINNING! Newbie thread is just a formidable challenger


I apologize.  I was kinda going for this eternal back-and-forth Pong-like game thing.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PJ gamer10 on January 27, 2005, 02:17:57 PM
I think what made the old RE scary was that the character was restricted to small enviroments with limited mobility. Opening up the enviroments and giving the perspective behind the shoulder with the aiming system felt like you had total control over the character. The new RE uses the thrill of having multiple targets that come from different sides in a larger landscape. The new way of playing really does breath new life into the franchise.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: KnowsNothing on January 28, 2005, 11:22:57 AM
Also, I saw in Gamepro (which I am still getting for free....) that they gave RE4 a "4.5" in the graphics section (and sound too...).  I find this odd, since just about the rest of the world thinks that this is the best looking console game to date.  Hmm.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 28, 2005, 11:57:26 AM
Peppy seems to be wondering about that too...

Maybe Gamepro decides scores by throwing darts blindfolded while strapped to a spinning wheel.  Metroid Prime 2 received 5.0 in graphics while Halo2 and MGS3 both got 4.5 a couple months ago.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 28, 2005, 12:02:28 PM
All fanboy-ism aside, I think MP2 is much sleeker than either...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on January 28, 2005, 04:21:55 PM
Finally received this game in the mail yesterday, so I've been playing it non-stop ever since and I've just entered the cabin where you fight Mendez in professional mode.  It's good to see a lot of improvments over the previous Resident Evil games.  The voice-acting is a hell of a lot better as well as them minor details... like the characters actually holding weapons properly.  The only few downsides that I thought could of made the game much more compelling if they were fixed were things like the difficulty settings and the diaries/notes.  Some areas were incredibly easy and also the diaries that Leon picks up in RE4 don't seem to have the same zing to them that the previous RE's had.  None of them really explain any in-depth history about the plagas and I would of wanted to hear a lot more information about the cult's history and the numerous creatures like El Gigante.

Story-wise, it was a little shallower than what Capcom was making it out to be.  I feel that this connects with the lack of information that was included in the diaries and notes.

Anyway, putting all them negative points aside, it's a great game with a pretty good replay value seeing that there is quite a heap of stuff to unlock.  It's shaping up to be my favourite Resident Evil game of the saga.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: zelos_rules on January 28, 2005, 05:56:02 PM
In case anyone was wondering Resident Evil 4 sold 116 000 on its first day of retail in Japan. I actually expected it to do a little better, it placed 3rd on the daily chart
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Switchblade Cross on January 28, 2005, 06:06:26 PM
A little news tidbit regarding Biohazard 4  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 28, 2005, 07:00:33 PM
THE HILARITY!!!

This is almost like Kano driving his hand deep into your chest, and yanking it back out only to discover HE'S NOT HOLDING ANYTHING!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Gamefreak on January 29, 2005, 10:38:49 AM
I can understand the easy difficulty.. Americans are used to FPS's so RE4 feels a lot more "normal" to us.. Like how back in the day japanese RPG's would be watered down for us (the ones that made it)...

But I don't understand the censored headhots...are they saying there is still the exploding head animation.. just the head stays on? huh? o_O This doesn't make any sense, especially in Japan of all places.. Perhaps it was Nintendo's intervention, since they don't really have much a ratings system there andd any 4 year old could go buy this game.. but any 4 year old could also buy anime porn, many complete with nasty gratuitous violence thrown in for good measure... Doesn't make any sense to me... Well ok Americans are more used to the realistic type of blood and gore in RE4 but still Japan isn't a place where you'd think games would get censored.. But actually this was Capcom censoring it so who knows...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on January 29, 2005, 11:21:18 AM
Translation:

Japanese censorship system is just as screwy and filled with inexplicable holes as American.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Gamefreak on January 29, 2005, 04:31:19 PM
The thing is.. Japan doesn't usually censor anything.. Oh well, doesn't matter to us anyway

EDIT: Oh and actually maybe I know why. It could NCL popping in and requesting some censorship... They definately are stricter than NOA, who doesn't care about anything (Sony made the PS2 BMX XXX censored while NOA didn't) and NOE doesn't seem to either (they have DS ads with naked chicks)...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 29, 2005, 04:36:39 PM
Upper-body nudity in Europe isn't a big deal, so NOE's ads aren't that surprising...And Japanese gamers hate hard games, that's why the added easy difficulty was added (just as it has been done to Viewtiful Joe and others)...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: WuTangTurtle on January 29, 2005, 08:08:56 PM
how terrible, i bet capcom will see that choice as a hit to their sales and PS2 version will include headshots.

It's Mortal Kombat SNES, and Genesis all over again.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Famicom on January 30, 2005, 04:19:43 AM
Japanese gamers hate hard games? Is there some proof of this?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Balrog on January 30, 2005, 06:50:14 AM
Tell me something:

Can you chose from easy-normal-hard or you can't modify the difficulty?
Is this game gore, filled with awesome dead animations and such like Turok 2 or RE2?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on January 30, 2005, 10:10:01 AM
The only difficulty available is 'Normal', but after beating the game you will unlock 'Professional' difficulty which is a hell of a lot harder.  As for the death animations and gore, you should be pleased.  There is a ton of blood and gore in the game, and as for death animations... there are quite a number of them.

Being spat on with acid will melt Leon's flesh off and show his skull, where as characters with bladed weapons can impale and decapitate etc...  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Balrog on January 30, 2005, 11:55:21 AM
That's what I'm talking about. I'm gonna buy it as soon it reaches venezuelan shores.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mjbd on January 31, 2005, 05:26:09 PM
I couldnt wait any longer, I picked up RE4 yesterday.  This game is nuts.  I died about five times in the village.  This game is definately a survival horror game.  The controls work so much better for this perspective, and I love being able to aim at specific body parts.  In the previous RE's; head shots were pure luck.  I still think RE and RE0 were exceptional games, but RE4 takes it to the next level.  The visuals are the best I have seen on gamecube.  What really trips me out, is there will be a crap load of bad guys on screen, and the game rarely stutters.  The framerate is very steady.  Shows off what gamecube can really do.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 01, 2005, 12:13:26 PM
I hope Nintendo manages to secure another RE for Revolution, I wonder what these incredibly talented guys around Mikami (right?) manage to do.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mjbd on February 01, 2005, 04:55:51 PM
I like the fact that this game doesnt force you to conserve amo so much.  It seems like you in much better control, and I couldnt be happier.  Precision aiming is great, in old RE games it was mostly luck if you blew a zombies head off, not so in RE4.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: nionlights on February 01, 2005, 07:40:05 PM
To continue the never-ending stream of praise, this is really what console gaming is all about.  It really is a shame that this was the last, and not the first, RE out on the 'Cube.  For as good as Zero was (and 2 and Veronica), this is by far the best in the series.

Speaking of Mikami, has anyone heard anything more about him leaving Capcom?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MaleficentOgre on February 02, 2005, 02:24:54 AM
Mikami is dead, didn't you know.  He cut his head off with a chainsaw controller.  actually he just jumped to clover.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: threestain on February 02, 2005, 02:58:42 PM
I have just finished it on normal difficulty, after 15 hours of playtime, in the week since I got it.  Fantastic game, and brilliant extras.  This has been the only game to properly displace Soul Calibur 2...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mjbd on February 04, 2005, 03:37:58 PM
Yea, RE4 is definately the best in the series, but RE0 and RE the remake were excellent games also.  I think RE the remake is the most scary, its got the best enviorment to work with.  RE0 was sweet because of using two differant characters.  And of course both games featured oustanding graphics, even if they were pre-rendered.  RE4 takes a huge step up the evolutionary ladder.  I just hope that RE4 isnt the last, because the new formula rocks.  Not saying a few minor tweaks to the gameplay would hurt.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: miedo on February 04, 2005, 03:48:26 PM
This has become one of my favorite games.  Probably one of the best on this generation at the least.  Right now I'm killing cows and chickens with an infinite launcher.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 05, 2005, 10:10:02 AM
I LOVE this game, not on the strata as I love Metroid Prime 2, but still, I haven't gotten this much satisfaction per bullet since... Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear (PC).  I'm only 4 hours in, cuz i only got arround to beating MP2 earlier this week.

Thick atmosphere, great tactical variety, and all-around quality violence.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 06, 2005, 02:17:37 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666

Thick atmosphere, great tactical variety, and all-around quality violence.




All around quality violence, what a wonderful way of expressing the beauty of shooting heads apart
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: smf1978 on February 06, 2005, 05:30:41 AM
I have been through this game twice now and I still have the itch to play it , it is taking forever to get enough money to buy the infinite rocket launcher, but I am sure it will be worth it.  I would have to rate this game on of the best of all time, love the headshots
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Famicom on February 06, 2005, 01:19:54 PM
Hmm really? I'm about halfway done with my second go-round and I've already purchased a Chicago Typewriter and am about a third of the way to the infinite launcher. Course, I sold all my upgraded guns to get the Typewriter since you don't need them after having it....
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 07, 2005, 09:04:15 AM
Out of curiosity, has anyone completed this game yet in the Professional Difficulty?  Right now, I'm just before the part where you hop onto the tractor and pick-off Ganado's that are on your tail and it's pretty hard.  If I had a rough guess, I'd have probably died about 15-20 times on that one part alone.  As for the total of deaths I've had so far... I think it's something in the 100's.  :\
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 07, 2005, 02:42:17 PM
I've been spending more time playing, yay.

BioZomboid4 game gives me the creeps in a different way than RE Remake, RE Zero, and ED, and on a different level.

In Remake/Zero I was like "Uhhh I DO NOT want to walk down that hall.  I DON'T want to see another camera angle change that's so sudden that I jump at the detailed sight of a pre-rendered chair."

In Eternal Darkness it was like "Great Zephos what the hell'z gonna happen this time?  I know *they* are all around me.  The audio's cleverly driving me insane.  *Bom BOMMMMMMMMMM..........*  I'm going nuts anticipating what's at the blind end of the room as this nifty camera gradually, methodically leads me to my doo- GAH THE DOOR KNOCKED!"

As for Resi4, it's this feeling of almost being trapped while simultaneously still on-the-run which puts me under pressure and on the edge, in order words, it's prompting me to panic.  Do I dread the enemies?  or do I dread the pressure and confusion they create?  They manage to get me to that point where I feel cornered and like those people in movies who know they're done for so they start screaming and shouting obscenities while unloading their weapons to the very last seconds of their lives then *splat*.  Oh yes, if i'm not shouting obscenities, then it's definitely brewing in my head; it just needs a detonator.  Therefore, "EEEWWWWWWWWWW oh no. oh no.  Don't come any closer.  you're askin' for it, buddy.  hey, HEY get away GET AWAY!! *BLAMMMO* BETWEEN YOUR EYES B1TCH!!!  Oh shi-"

And that's, well, fantastic. In response to Resi4's creepy crawliness, the game lets me reciprocate with LOTS AND LOTS OF CHUNKY VIOLENCE.  YES.  MMMmmmmm good.

Another great example of a game that doesn't utilize teh angst to invoke a variety of emotions in me.  yay
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: MysticGohan24 on February 07, 2005, 02:48:12 PM
LMAO@Professional 666 Man that was how'll I feel. especially with the Nemesis wannabe in the caverns that chases you in the suspended freights
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mjbd on February 07, 2005, 02:55:56 PM
Wow, that was an interested post.  RE4's scariness is definately a bit differant than previously released RE and RE0.  Eternal Darkness had some of the best sound effects in any game, the music would drive you nuts, but was more of an erie kind of scary, where as RE and RE0 would use more shock tactics.  I prefer this new direction they have went, where theres more to surviving than conserving amo.  I use to hate not having enough amo, I dont mind conserving in the sence that I make sure I aim correctly, but to simply run out and have to run away all the time doesnt make me want to continue through the game.  RE4 gives you enough amo, its up to you not to waste it by taking poor shots.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: heinous_anus on February 07, 2005, 06:32:29 PM
From what I understand, a lot of people have praised RE4 for its new non-fixed camera, which also affects the controls, and also the abundance of ammo.

I know I'm in the minority, so I have no right to "complain," but I really loved in, well, especially 2 and Code Veronica where part of the "survival" in "survival horror" included strategically using your ammo.  In other words, using handgun ammo whenever possible to avoid using "better" weapons, not killing some enemies you can just run past, etc.  The lack of ammo in these other games, combined with the very non-linear gameplay, made the entire weapons system a big part of the spook factor.  I remember, and I recall this for friends, as well, getting extraordinarily scared when I was almost out of shotgun shells, or the tremendous relief one felt when finding those golden magnum bullets later in the game.

I'm not saying that "fixing" these things is necessarily a bad thing for the game, I just find it curious that I've been selling off ammo the whole game to avoid having to discard it.

By the way, in this "Professional" mode that I keep hearing about, do you get less ammunition throughout the game, or do enemies take more damage before they die?  This would be a very compelling reason, on top of the other goodies I've been hearing about, to replay the game.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Switchblade Cross on February 07, 2005, 07:41:57 PM
From what I read, Pro mode involves enemies that take more effort to defeat, as well as herbs and ammo being more scarce, but not anywhere near the point of old RE games...  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on February 07, 2005, 09:54:26 PM
Can somebody tell me what the pills Luis gives Leon before he dies are?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Urkel on February 07, 2005, 10:25:22 PM
The pills are for slowing down the growth of the parasite.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 08, 2005, 01:02:17 AM
I don't think that any ammo is removed in Professional Mode, but you do happen to waste it a lot quicker because enemies take a higher amount of bullets for them to be killed.  Interactive cut-scenes are also much harder to get through as the amount of time to push the certain buttons is lessened, or at least it feels like it is.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Switchblade Cross on February 08, 2005, 02:27:42 AM
I love the interactive cutscenes!  I think they are one of the best things about the game and are truly outstanding and unique, even if Shenmue already did it...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mjbd on February 09, 2005, 02:06:02 PM
I finished RE4 today.  There is one bad thing about RE4, it ends to quickly.  Even though it took me almost 18hours to complete, it feels like was very short.  This is really no complaint, its just such a great game, that it consumes you, and time flys by.  I am looking forward to playing the professional mode, should be interesting.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 09, 2005, 02:16:36 PM
I bet it's not beat-the-Remake-in-under-3-hours-with-ChrisRedfield-with-no-rocketlauncher-nor-samurai-edge-kind of short.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mjbd on February 10, 2005, 01:10:55 PM
Anyone think that there may be a chance of one more RE on gamecube?  I would love to see another RE with this new formula.  Granted, if they wait for next gen hardware they will have next to no limitations in terms of visuals, and a rock solid 60fps would be nice.  But with the way nintendo keeps talking about revolution, it might not even be playable on the hardware.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Zero_Plague on February 11, 2005, 01:38:26 AM
I doubt that there would be another Resident Evil for Gamecube.  I'm guessing that it'd be multi-platform for the new generation consoles, discluding the X-Box (2).  As for a simple side-story (possibly Outbreak: File 3... unfortunately), I'd suspect that it'd be exclusive for the PS3 seeing as how they get most of the side-stories.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 11, 2005, 08:44:05 AM
Let the new generation of Resident Evil multiplatform spinoffs and gameplay stagnation BEGIN!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mjbd on February 11, 2005, 12:46:46 PM
Depending how well RE4 ends up selling, the next installment could be developed for Revolution, and ported to PS3.  Which is the ideal situation, seeing as how a game almost always plays best on the system it was designed for.  
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mantidor on February 11, 2005, 07:31:44 PM
I got the game just today! so far it has been really great, but I have a big fear that it might end up too quickly, I played almost 4 hours straight and I didnt even noticed it O_o! Now Im hesitant to play it since I dont want it to end... but I dont want to stop playing it... argh,the dilemma!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 12, 2005, 04:49:53 AM
how great must this game be on the next generation of consoles
and how much would I love to see this game atleast temporarily exclusive for GCN
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mjbd on February 12, 2005, 08:15:34 AM
Nintendo's relationship with Capcom seems to be pretty good these days.  Even though RE4 has only sold 175k copies so far in japan, I would expect that its do far better in the US, and should do well in Europe also.  It wouldnt suprise me if future Resident Evil games are at least temporarily exclusive to Nintendo  because of the good relationship they have shared lately.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on February 14, 2005, 01:56:42 PM
I just finished this game...

Wow... just wow.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 14, 2005, 02:22:53 PM
GAH!  Reading that makes me wanna get back to it!

~~~~~

As usual, it's only Monday, and I'm already wishing it was Friday.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on February 14, 2005, 02:49:16 PM
You won't be disappointed, I can tell you that much.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 15, 2005, 07:50:55 AM
boy I dont even have the money to buy the game
I really need to cut down on beer kills your brains anyway
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on February 18, 2005, 01:06:27 AM
Spoiler for anybody who hasn't finished the game!

Can anybody tell me what Ada and Wesker say in the radio conversation and the TV thing at the beginning and end of Assignment Ada?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 22, 2005, 06:17:51 PM
I just beat it.  Such a delicious game.

Paladin:
IF YOU HAVEN'T BEATEN THE GAME THEN THIS DOESN'T CONCERN YOU

I'M WARNING YOU




Anyways, I did play/finish Assignment Hot Chick right after beating it.  I can give you transcript of the intro, but i can't exactly reload the end, so i'll just try to summarize:

Opening --
Wesker: Have you retrieved the sample?
Ada: Not yet.
Wesker: Some kind of trouble...?
Ada: Saddler... He knows...
Wesker: Ahh.. Your extraction chopper will pick you up at the rendevous point, as planned.
Ada: I'll be there.

End -- (quite incomplete)
Wesker: Punctual.  I like that.
~~~
Wesker: Did you see Krauser?
Ada: He's dead.
~~~
[Wesker says something about a "new" Umbrella coming back in a big way, like things will be different the next time around, and they'll be unstoppable.  He then does his mad scientist laugh]


Interestingly enough, my MOST HEARTPOUNDING MOMENT in RE4 was in Ass. Ada, when I was locked in the lab room then Mr. I VERY STRONG TO HOLD THIS BIG GATLING GUN comes in.  I ran under the stairs and timed my grenade tosses so the shield monkeys and eventually Mr. T got hit as they reached the bottom steps.  When Mr. T was stunned, I ran past him upstairs so he didn't get a clear shot of me.  Then I sniped him as his head was peeked above the edge of the top steps. YIKES, that was intense.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on February 22, 2005, 07:14:16 PM
Yeah, JJ made for some intense fights.

Did you know he can jump very high? I mean, up ladders? Found that out the hard way and died soon after.

My scariest moment in the game has little to do with the game. I was playing with the lights off at 4 am, roomates sleeping... creepy music weirding me out... and then my roomate suddenly started screaming in his sleep, out of the blue. Not fun.

And after that I calmed my shot nerves, sat back down and inched forward, heart pounding, only to be greeted with an explosion and screaming extra crispy oven man.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 22, 2005, 07:29:16 PM
Hah, good ol' Oven Man.  Mikami & Co picked a good spot to include a traditional shock-scare [it was about about time, especially considering you've followed tradition by arriving at some icky laboratory].  Being on fire really gave him, umm, personality.

I've never seen Gatling Guy jump... but when I tried out the Mercenaries Waterworld stage, I found out that Virtually Indestructo Chainsaw Man could jump up, oh, 3 stories high?  "WHOA, F- this," so my Leon went ahead and jumped down the 3 stories, just AWAY from that dude.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: tekkenlover on February 26, 2005, 07:24:36 PM
Well,from reading all the reviews on RE4 .I've decided to purchase it Monday  Feb.28,2005.When I go to buy my Gamecube Platinum.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Gamefreak on February 27, 2005, 02:41:03 PM
Good idea.
I also recommend Super Smash Bros. Melee and Metroid Prime.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: tekkenlover on February 27, 2005, 03:07:30 PM
I got Metroid Prime today from Target Dept. store
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: tekkenlover on February 28, 2005, 02:11:50 PM
I got RE4 today!! Well,the Gamestop only has RE 1 & RE 0(ZERO).Which should I buy first?They're both used and cost $18.00.I've got $25.00 left for now.Which do you suggest that I get?
Got,my Gamecube Platinum too.Everything is put up for now.I'll open it all up and play it.When I get to the Nursing Home this Thursday.

                                        Thanks,Clint
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Nosferat2 on February 28, 2005, 07:52:55 PM
Get RE ZERO, you can get either of them new for less than twenty if you look around. I found RE ZERO at Circuit City for 16.99.
Congrates on your Gamecube purchase. You wont be disappointed especially with RE4. I just finished Re4 and was extremely impressed. The game went far beyond my expectations, which were quite high considering the hype and the length of development. This is the only game that competes with Metriod Prime. Both are fantastic and both suffer only one flaw, ending. I wish the endings on both games had a bit more substance. Notwithstanding that, both are the best games i have ever played.
Enjoy.
PS. May i recommend Metroid Prime 2? Excellent game to say the least.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Gamebasher on March 02, 2005, 09:27:42 AM
Resident Evil 4 isn´t out in our territory (Europe) yet, but I had the opportunity to play an imported copy in one of our local EB Games shops. And I must say that it is awesome. Totally great to look at, and to play. The graphics, the way the characters have been modelled, the whole world modelled around them - this game will sell bucketloads of GameCubes. While I played, there was several bystanders who looked on as I played (and commented when I got killed on the first few tries, until I adjusted the controls), whom I soon learned didn´t own a GameCube. They were gobbled up in the game. We all were. That´s three great games on the Cube in 2005 that are guaranteed to be systemsellers (Mario 128, Zelda Realistic and RE4). So - a blockbuster year for Nintendo, then.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Gamebasher on March 02, 2005, 09:28:45 AM
Nintendo is the best!

The competition get´s the rest!
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: meldavid on March 05, 2005, 07:09:51 AM
Still waiting for an Australian release here.  
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on March 05, 2005, 11:49:00 AM
News: Resident Evil 5 Confirmed

Hopefully it'll be on the Rev
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: IceCold on March 07, 2005, 02:37:04 PM
I think that the time has finally come for this thread to be removed from Stickyland...
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 07, 2005, 03:29:50 PM
I am teh sticky.  This thread will LIVE ON.  LIKE ALBERT FROM RESI1.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: L.S. Kennedy on March 13, 2005, 04:00:36 AM
Has anyone beaten this yet?

I heard you  could use your weapons that you had at the end of your first game, again in the second one. I started the second one, and the only thing I can do is wear the R.P.D. uniform. help?
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: L.S. Kennedy on March 13, 2005, 04:03:51 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Avinash_Tyagi
News: Resident Evil 5 Confirmed

Hopefully it'll be on the Rev



The link states that RE 1-4 and Code Veronica were about Umbrella Corp.

SPOILER!-dont loook unless you've beaten the game.














Didn't it say that Wesker and Ada and Krauser's mission were to bring back Umbrella Corp., that's what Krauser said in the annoying dodge key cut scene.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: odifiend on March 13, 2005, 04:43:55 AM
Annoying?  That was the best cut scene ever!
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Nosferat2 on March 13, 2005, 07:40:20 AM
Im with Odifiend on this one. That was the best cut scene ever.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: TMW on March 13, 2005, 06:47:35 PM
I know someone who would beg to differ, and say that Aeris getting stabbied is the best one ever. =P

But I would concur with Odifiend and Nosferat...it was rather awesome in it's badassitude.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: IceCold on March 13, 2005, 06:59:29 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
I am teh sticky.  This thread will LIVE ON.  LIKE ALBERT FROM RESI1.


No, actually I am teh sticky. This thread will DIE...like Leon thought Ada did
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 13, 2005, 07:14:17 PM
"thought"

ahahahaah

good one!  Barry?  BARRY!?
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mantidor on March 18, 2005, 07:45:26 PM
I just finished the game! it was absolutely amazing! the cutscenes in this game are like a million times better than any other because you just dont know when you have to push the buttons! I couldnt put down the controller at anytime ^_^


The final boss was dull and dissapointing, but I really didnt mind that fact, the whole scape scene at the end was awesome! the only thing I missed, and specially my little bro, was that you cannot play the Ada mission with her original sexy outfit


to get all the weapons you had when finishing the game you need to load the last save of the game, the game after you finished has all the new things unlocked but in order to have all your weapons from the start you must load the game from the save file, not start a new one.

In conclusion, it sucks that the GC had such a lackluster third party support, because as this games showed, the GC is very capable of putting amazing games, my only explanation is that devs are idiots and never gave the little good GC any chance. I can only imagine games like Devil May Cry with the kind of graphics that they deserve as shown in RE4! or a great Castlevania title! all those games wouldve been totally mind blowing in the GC.

Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 18, 2005, 11:08:45 PM
TYRANT was dull.  Saddler's not that dull.  Compared to a single Ganado standing on a rooftop, Tyrant is still dull.  And naked.

Are you trying to get lots and lots of cash in your Round 2 game now?  Only bought the Chicago Typewriter last nite, just after Ashley's Flashlight Adventures part of the game.  I traded in my Striker, tho.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on March 19, 2005, 08:37:19 AM
I disagree. Saddler wasn't dull, he was very fun to fight. I have the feeling they made him sort of easy so you could go all out beating the crap out of him. After all that happened, I seized the opportunity.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 19, 2005, 08:42:27 AM
I happen to like short and sweet fights much more than long, boring ones...Thus, I thought RE4's final boss was the best in the series...
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 19, 2005, 09:50:08 AM
The Saddler fight was even juicier given the arsenal you could amass by the end of the game.  Sure, that can make things seem easy, but the game always had an emphasis on tactical variety.  Having a nice arsenal really means having more toys to play with, and Saddler's your playmate.  It was also great to see the KNIFE was still useful at the end of the game, despite all the BIG GUNS you have.  Definitely not dull.

I refused to use Ada's Rosy Red Rocket Launcher.  Leon would bite Saddler to death, raw-hardcore-like, before using such a thing.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: mantidor on March 19, 2005, 02:51:15 PM
I still think it was dull, my and brother were like "its shoot in the eyes, climb, repeat and repeat... and repeat" after having such a terrific fight with the scorpion-zombie thing (the one that grabbed you like a rag doll and then climbed up from the depths you had already thrown him into and fights with you going underground and all) I was dissapointed with that fight with saddler, the moment Ada threw the rocket launcher I didnt hesitate to end the battle, it was either do that or do the shoot eyes - climb sequence a dozen times, very few strategy needed, it didnt matter to have saved all the big guns for this fight, you just needed a shotgun and enough ammo to end it, the scape in the jet-ski was totally awesome though

I dont remember who was tyrant, it wasnt the scorpion zombie thing, was it? because thats honestly the best boss fight of the game I can recall now
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: odifiend on March 19, 2005, 05:15:06 PM
I think the 'Big Cheese' was the hardest boss and (therefore best?) boss in the game.  Krauser was my favorite boss fight by far though.  The scorpion thing I just pretty much held my ground and pumped him full of lead.  My roommate had a tough time with him, and then he saw how i put him down and became less impressed with that boss.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: TMW on March 19, 2005, 06:29:11 PM
The most disappointing boss fight for me was when Salazar turned into the uber monster.  It was great the first two times (you know, when he kept killing me), but I found out that if you stand on the higher level to the far, far right, he can't instakill you.  All you gotta do is stand there and duck the tentacles while filling Salazar full of lead.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Bloodworth on March 20, 2005, 09:30:40 AM
Actually, you could just shoot the tentacles a few times to move them out of the way for a while.  However, from my conversations, it doesn't look like many people found those spots on the sides.  So the trick is learning that's what you need to do.
Title: RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: PaLaDiN on March 20, 2005, 09:54:35 AM
I actually stood in the center pumping him full of lead, and then when the head opened I RAN LIKE A BAT OUT OF HELL to the side... the screen actually blurs with the swoosh of the attempted instakill right behind me, so amazing.
Title: RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 20, 2005, 05:42:37 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: mantidor
I still think it was dull, my and brother were like "its shoot in the eyes, climb, repeat and repeat... and repeat" after having such a terrific fight with the scorpion-zombie thing (the one that grabbed you like a rag doll and then climbed up from the depths you had already thrown him into and fights with you going underground and all)


I don't know about you, but BOSSES for the most part are "do something, do something, shoot, repeat."  With Saddler, you could've used mine darts on the torso, run around and use the barrels, or use the two cranes to shake him up.  And the eyes in his legs contributed to his overall damage, so you didn't have to damage the main eye every single time to make progress.  With the underground scorpion guy you mentioned, I shot him every couple seconds with well-placed magnum shots -- and he NEVER got the chance to fight back -- wow thanks for that exciting I came back from the depths i'm not dead yet haha comeback, but you didn't last more than 10 seconds and you barely moved one step forward, sorry.  Saddler never dropped to his knees and went "OW magnum, I give up" like that.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Kytim89 on June 10, 2010, 10:15:07 PM
I always like the boss battle with Salazar's right-hand in the sewers. That thing kicked ass and I liked how it had the ability to dodge rockets if you fired it when the creature was not frozen.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 10, 2010, 10:43:33 PM
I almost believed there was something important to share.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 10, 2010, 10:52:17 PM
You think you were surprised, I clicked on the new button and it teleported me back to 2003 and page 1 of 51.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mop it up on June 11, 2010, 12:27:46 AM
Well, since this is here...

I've never played a Resident Evil game, or even a survival horror game. Would this be a good one to start with, or should I play the original first, or some other game?
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: broodwars on June 11, 2010, 12:31:33 AM
Well, since this is here...

I've never played a Resident Evil game, or even a survival horror game. Would this be a good one to start with, or should I play the original first, or some other game?

That depends.  If you have any interest in the Resident Evil mythos (such as it is) and can tolerate some abysmally outdated gameplay mechanics, start with the Resident Evil remake on GameCube/Wii.  If you just want a fun 3rd person shooting experience with a little bit of tension and a lot of dead bodies, start with Resident Evil 4.  If you have any intention on playing Resident Evil 5, play both.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mop it up on June 11, 2010, 12:37:05 AM
The first one is a no. I bought Resident Evil for GameCube around the time it was released, but I never mustered up the interest to play it, and ended up selling it many years later.
The third one is also no. I actually forgot that I have played Resident Evil 5, once, in co-op with my brother. It didn't impress me.
So I guess it is the second one. The game is pretty cheap now, too.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: vudu on June 11, 2010, 02:06:31 PM
Just buy RE4 Wii Edition (or the original RE4 if you really want to play withe GCN controller).  The others aren't worth playing.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: broodwars on June 11, 2010, 02:11:03 PM
Just buy RE4 Wii Edition (or the original RE4 if you really want to play withe GCN controller).  The others aren't worth playing.

I wouldn't say that.  The Resident Evil remake is very enjoyable, as is Resident Evil 2.  Resident Evil 3 just wasn't all that fun to me (mostly because it's a game that encourages you to blow away everthing in front of you considering all the backtracking, yet doesn't give you enough ammo to actually do it), and Resident Evil 0 is just...superfluous, with little new or interesting.  Resident Evil 4 is excellent, and RE 5 is fun IF you're willing to tolerate some really bad partner AI (or play online) and a really overblown, nonsensical story.
 
Actually, I just recently picked up RE 5 again with the Gold Edition.  I think a year after it released, I can replay it now enjoying it for what it is and not what it isn't (a revolutionary entry in the series like RE 4).  Plus, I really want to play Lost in Nightmares, a chapter that should have been in the original game in the first place.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Halbred on June 11, 2010, 03:00:16 PM
Both of the bonus chapters are fun, but I especially liked Lost in Nightmares. Versus mode is a good time, too, assuming you play with people who understand what mode they're playing.

RE4 is great. I think it's the best RE game, honestly. RE5's story isn't overblown--it connects well to previous plot points in the series and provides a good conclusion to the overarchng mythos. I think RE5 is a more refined version of RE4, but you're right about the partner AI. On the other hand, if you and a friend can hook up and play co-op, either next to each-other or online, RE5 provides a really wonderful co-op experience.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Kytim89 on June 11, 2010, 04:45:02 PM
Here goes my Resident Evil 4 Las Plagas Biology Discussion:
 
I will start with the Novistadors.
 
The Novistadors were the flying creatures that Leon faced in the underground of the castles. One strain of these creatures could bended light to turn invisible while a secind strain could fly.
 
When facing off against these creature Leon has the opprotunity to kick one down onto the ground it is easy to onserve that this creature has a ribcage which makes you wonder of it has lungs. If it does have lungs, this would mean that it is part human. Oviously the Los Illuminados must have spliced human and fly DNA into each other to create this being. However, it is hard to determine whether the Novistador is a host to the Plaga, or is comprosided of Plaga DNA in its molecular structure?
 
On Resident Evil wiki it is stated that the Novistadors were once human.
 
 
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Halbred on June 11, 2010, 04:49:10 PM
I imagine they're Plagas-infested versions of Chimaeras from REmake. A lot of the RE4 creatures don't have good explainations, among them the Novistadors and Salaazar's buddies.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Kytim89 on June 11, 2010, 04:56:30 PM
I imagine they're Plagas-infested versions of Chimaeras from REmake. A lot of the RE4 creatures don't have good explainations, among them the Novistadors and Salaazar's buddies.

Actually most of the RE 4 baddies are fairly original. I actually played RE 4 for the PS2 about ten times in row around the time I graduated from high school in 2007. I was so fascinated by the game that I actually wrote several pages of notes on the origins of the RE 4 baddies and their biology. However, my flash drive that I had the data on was erased and I am starting from scratch.
 
In fact I bought the wii edition of this game and it is perhaps the most superior version of the game available.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: broodwars on June 11, 2010, 05:08:46 PM
In fact I bought the wii edition of this game and it is perhaps the most superior version of the game available.

There is no "perhaps".  It is the superior version of the game, not only due to the Wii pointer controls but also because it has all the content that's previously been made for the game.  The only thing really bad about it are the graphics, which take a lot of time to adjust to (presumably because the visuals were stretched to create a widescreen image).
 
As for the flying bugs, Halbred's theory is about as plausible as any because I do think they were meant to pay homage to the Chimeras.  Besides, we'll see in RE5 quite a few past monsters have been repurposed for current use by this point in the RE timeline (the leeches, anyone?).  I wouldn't think too hard about the (*Dr. Insano voice*) "SCIENCE!" of the RE universe, though.  It's clearly made up as they went along.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Kytim89 on June 11, 2010, 05:12:52 PM
In fact I bought the wii edition of this game and it is perhaps the most superior version of the game available.

There is no "perhaps".  It is the superior version of the game, not only due to the Wii pointer controls but also because it has all the content that's previously been made for the game.  The only thing really bad about it are the graphics, which take a lot of time to adjust to (presumably because the visuals were stretched to create a widescreen image).
 
As for the flying bugs, Halbred's theory is about as plausible as any because I do think they were meant to pay homage to the Chimeras.  Besides, we'll see in RE5 quite a few past monsters have been repurposed for current use by this point in the RE timeline (the leeches, anyone?).  I wouldn't think too hard about the (*Dr. Insano voice*) "SCIENCE!" of the RE universe, though.  It's clearly made up as they went along.

I just thought it would be kind of cool to discuss how the creatures of RE 4 were made in the game's universe.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ShyGuy on June 11, 2010, 06:11:22 PM
My Favorite enemy is Dr. Salvador and his Chainsaw. I dislike the chain gun enemies and Krauser's 2nd boss fight is the toughest boss.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Halbred on June 11, 2010, 06:13:28 PM
Heh, I actually thought that the Oroboros Virus in RE5 was pretty funny. It's like the writers forced RE0 to become a real part of the continuity. Instead of dealing with the T-Virus, G-Virus, or Code Veronica Virus, they go all the way back to the Progenitor Virus.
 
@ShyGuy: Yes, Krauser's second form is very difficult, although once you learn how to bait him, he gets easier. The fact that you're under a time limit blows, though.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Kytim89 on June 11, 2010, 06:31:30 PM
I really like the regenerators and I will be writing about their biology soon.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: broodwars on June 11, 2010, 06:33:37 PM
I really like the regenerators and I will be writing about their biology soon.

I'll never understand why the regenerators never returned for RE5, considering they worked so well as one of the few "old school Resident Evil"-like monsters in RE4.  Instead we got the Lickers, who were suddenly built like tanks and obnoxious.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Louieturkey on June 11, 2010, 06:46:46 PM
I really like the regenerators and I will be writing about their biology soon.

I'll never understand why the regenerators never returned for RE5, considering they worked so well as one of the few "old school Resident Evil"-like monsters in RE4.  Instead we got the Lickers, who were suddenly built like tanks and obnoxious.
The betas did tend to take a lot of ammo when not using the infinite rocket launcher.  And they swarmed in packs rather than as individuals like they used to do.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: noname2200 on June 11, 2010, 07:16:20 PM

I just thought it would be kind of cool to discuss how the creatures of RE 4 were made in the game's universe.

There's not much point in Resident Evil games: with everything being subject to complete retcon at any time, any explanation they give is want to be completely ignored so that enemy X can also appear in a different situation where it has no business being.  See, e.g., Tyrants, Crimson Heads, Zombies.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Mop it up on June 11, 2010, 09:34:51 PM
I mostly just want to try a game in the series because it is long-running, it doesn't really look like something I'd like. Though Resident Evil 4 is more about shooting action, so it has a better chance. The only one I own is Resident Evil 2 on Nintendo 64, but if I remember rightly, it is a continuation of the first game, so it wouldn't be a good one to start with.

If I wanted to play the older games, I'd probably get the Chronicles games instead, they look more fun. Plus my sister likes shooters, it's something we could play together.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: broodwars on June 11, 2010, 10:32:25 PM
I mostly just want to try a game in the series because it is long-running, it doesn't really look like something I'd like. Though Resident Evil 4 is more about shooting action, so it has a better chance. The only one I own is Resident Evil 2 on Nintendo 64, but if I remember rightly, it is a continuation of the first game, so it wouldn't be a good one to start with.

If I wanted to play the older games, I'd probably get the Chronicles games instead, they look more fun. Plus my sister likes shooters, it's something we could play together.

Actually, Resident Evil 2 on the N64 was my first Resident Evil game, and I enjoyed it just fine.  The game references the first at the very beginning, but otherwise it's very much its own story.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 12, 2010, 02:31:21 AM
Heh, I actually thought that the Oroboros Virus in RE5 was pretty funny. It's like the writers forced RE0 to become a real part of the continuity. Instead of dealing with the T-Virus, G-Virus, or Code Veronica Virus, they go all the way back to the Progenitor Virus.
 
@ShyGuy: Yes, Krauser's second form is very difficult, although once you learn how to bait him, he gets easier. The fact that you're under a time limit blows, though.

Oh yeah, that fight where I only use THE KNIFE to beat him in 20sec.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: ShyGuy on June 12, 2010, 03:27:40 AM
Heh, I actually thought that the Oroboros Virus in RE5 was pretty funny. It's like the writers forced RE0 to become a real part of the continuity. Instead of dealing with the T-Virus, G-Virus, or Code Veronica Virus, they go all the way back to the Progenitor Virus.
 
@ShyGuy: Yes, Krauser's second form is very difficult, although once you learn how to bait him, he gets easier. The fact that you're under a time limit blows, though.

Oh yeah, that fight where I only use THE KNIFE to beat him in 20sec.

F I S T ! ! ! ! ! !
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 12, 2010, 05:16:41 AM
Try using only THE KNIFE to take care of his first phase.  It's exhilarating.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: noname2200 on June 12, 2010, 02:28:21 PM
I mostly just want to try a game in the series because it is long-running, it doesn't really look like something I'd like. Though Resident Evil 4 is more about shooting action, so it has a better chance. The only one I own is Resident Evil 2 on Nintendo 64, but if I remember rightly, it is a continuation of the first game, so it wouldn't be a good one to start with.

If I wanted to play the older games, I'd probably get the Chronicles games instead, they look more fun. Plus my sister likes shooters, it's something we could play together.

RE4's pretty much a standalone title: the intro tells you that the bad guys are now gone, the hero in this game was in RE2, and that's 95% of how this game relates to the original.  There is a little more tie-in involved, but it came out of left field even for people who obsessively track the series' plotline, so being new to the series doesn't hurt in any way.

If you're going for one of the Chronicles games, be warned that 1) they're both pretty slow-paced for a light-gun game, and 2) Darkside Chronicles is superior in most ways, save for being slightly more chatty than the original.  They're both fun to play through, though, and since you don't follow the series you won't notice or care about the liberties they take with the other games' plots.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: Halbred on June 13, 2010, 11:38:30 PM
No, no it's not. Umbrella is the better game.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: broodwars on June 14, 2010, 12:34:50 AM
No, no it's not. Umbrella is the better game.

You seem to be one of the few who think so.  I prefer Darkside Chronicles myself, just because the experience in the stages is so much more immersive than Umbrella's (which often feels like you're riding a shoot 'em up theme park ride.

Incidentally, I'm replaying RE5 right now, and Sheva's dumbass AI aside (which, after already having done a full playthrough a year ago, I already know how to deal with the worst of) I'm probably enjoying the game a lot more now than I did my first playthrough (though the lengths you have to go to to prevent Sheva from interfering in trophy attempts is aggravating).  I'd also forgotten just how hard that game can be, how easy it can be to run out of ammo in your first playthrough (especially since Sheva will only use a secondary weapon if her pistol runs out of ammo and she can't find any more).  Unfortunately, I'm entering Chapter 3-1 now, the chapter where Japan's will-full ignorance of other cultures becomes glaringly obvious, as well as probably the chapter I enjoyed the least.

Oh yeah...RE4.  Well, I'm probably going to pick the Wii version of the game up again sometime in the near future since it's pretty cheap now.  About a year ago, I had to start getting rid of a lot of games I didn't wish to lose to obtain new ones, as I was unemployed for a lengthy period of time.  RE4 Wii's turn is coming up soon.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: noname2200 on June 14, 2010, 03:48:51 PM
No, no it's not. Umbrella is the better game.

Explain yourself!
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: broodwars on June 14, 2010, 03:51:52 PM
No, no it's not. Umbrella is the better game.

Explain yourself!

He wrote the site review for it.
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: noname2200 on June 14, 2010, 03:54:35 PM
No, no it's not. Umbrella is the better game.

Explain yourself!

He wrote the site review for it.

I see!
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: EasyCure on June 15, 2010, 09:30:51 PM
I mostly just want to try a game in the series because it is long-running, it doesn't really look like something I'd like. Though Resident Evil 4 is more about shooting action, so it has a better chance. The only one I own is Resident Evil 2 on Nintendo 64, but if I remember rightly, it is a continuation of the first game, so it wouldn't be a good one to start with.

If I wanted to play the older games, I'd probably get the Chronicles games instead, they look more fun. Plus my sister likes shooters, it's something we could play together.

Actually, Resident Evil 2 on the N64 was my first Resident Evil game, and I enjoyed it just fine.  The game references the first at the very beginning, but otherwise it's very much its own story.

Same here, however I did get to play the demo of RE1 so I was a little familiar with it. I think 2 is the better game (between 1 & 2, never played 3 and while I only ever played the REmake of 1, i still found 2 more memorable/enjoyable) so starting with that is fine, but starting with 4 is just as good. The only warning I have is that its a different beast than its predecessors.

It's not a bad thing, but if you want to play a game in the series because its a long standing one, I wouldn't really recommend choosing the most different of the bunch. Then again it really doesn't matter since you suggested trying the Chronicles games so this whole post was a waste of time :P
Title: Re: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
Post by: broodwars on June 16, 2010, 04:42:38 PM
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