Post by: Majexto on December 15, 2003, 07:26:41 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on December 15, 2003, 07:39:49 AM
During the heyday of arcades most arcade games were just plain unavailable for home consoles. Two of my favourites, X-Men and WWF Wrestlefest, have NEVER been ported to a home console for example. And back then even if a game was ported the arcade version usually was superior because the current home consoles weren't as powerful. As a result going to the arcade was more meaningful because it had exclusive games. One of the problems with today's arcades is that almost any arcade game can be faithfully ported to a home console. That's why there are so many arcade games with special controls like DDR these days. Since they can't be accurately ported they're more popular.
Now you did say that these games would be exclusive but that isn't realistically feasible. A company can make WAY more money with a home console game than an arcade game and I assure you absolutely every one of those games would be released at home. No company would make an exclusive arcade game that used existing home console hardware just to keep arcades alive.
The only way I can see arcades surviving is if they lowered the prices and made every game cost a quarter again. What turned me off from the arcades was when every new game starting costing a f*cking dollar to play. What used to play FORTY games now plays only ten? No wonder arcades are failing.
Post by: Majexto on December 15, 2003, 07:59:39 AM
I agree with your last statement, at the closest mall to me every game but the 5 year old games cost a dollar mostly and if you dont get past enough points within 30 seconds-minute or enough time extensions on say a racing game your money is gone.
Post by: DrZoidberg on December 15, 2003, 08:20:26 AM
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Originally posted by: Majexto
Say your at the mall, bored, arent getting picked up for an hour. Go spend three dollars at the game and you have an hours worth of play. .
GBA
another reason againsed using home consoles in arcades is, have you ever felt a demo unit controller? 20 times out of 10 they are completly ruined, the public at large ruins anything it comes across that they don't own, meaning [company goes here] would have to make a different more durable controller for arcades, and while they are at it they may aswell stick to making entire arcade cabinents
Post by: joeamis on December 15, 2003, 08:45:46 AM
the difference is the movies still have something you cannot get on tv (yet, i stress), you have a huge screen and awesome sound and they debute their first.
arcades need to have games that cost less to make and using console hardware is a good idea (but beef it up a bit), then they can charge less to play the games, but arcades need to go online as well if theyre to survive (people just don't get the competition theyre looking for, whereas in its heyday everyone went to arcades).
if they go online, you will always have a person to play against, and their can be tournaments and such. wouldn't it be fun to goto an arcade and play a racing game against 28 other people at the same time? or do people prefer AI right now
Post by: Majexto on December 15, 2003, 09:04:00 AM
That would be awsome, having it online, didnt they use to have competitions back in the 70's - 80's at arcades? That would be pretty cool and would definetly generate alot of money being brought into arcades.
Post by: The Omen on December 15, 2003, 09:27:16 AM
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the difference is the movies still have something you cannot get on tv (yet, i stress), you have a huge screen and awesome sound and they debute their first.
The real difference is release dates. If DVD versions were released the same day as the theatre , DVD would get all the sales. In order for an arcade to work, it would have to have the games first, well before the console release. And that just wont happen anymore.
Post by: manunited4eva22 on December 15, 2003, 10:57:29 AM
Post by: Majexto on December 15, 2003, 12:34:48 PM
Also somthing that would be really cool as a permanent installment would be somthing like the dew den, anyone with g4 has seen it, it was about a month long place that was in the mall of america that was ran by mountain dew and it had all xbox game competitions, was really cool. Somthing like that compared to a traditional arcade, what would you pick?
Ps- manunited funny sig
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on December 15, 2003, 05:09:24 PM
Seriously though, I think what draws gamers to return visits to an arcade is the social atmosphere and the opportunity to compete or show off. I highly recommend this article.
Post by: joeamis on December 15, 2003, 09:14:59 PM
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the difference is the movies still have something you cannot get on tv (yet, i stress), you have a huge screen and awesome sound and they debute their first.
The real difference is release dates. If DVD versions were released the same day as the theatre , DVD would get all the sales. In order for an arcade to work, it would have to have the games first, well before the console release. And that just wont happen anymore.
that is true too, i was going to include that but i forgot, thanks for bringing it up
and actually the playchoice arcade games had that minutes of play per quarter idea Majexto is talking about.
Post by: Deguello on December 17, 2003, 08:45:42 PM
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Post by: Majexto on December 18, 2003, 02:58:18 AM
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on September 20, 2009, 05:57:51 AM
Yeah they have them at some of the theaters here, really bad. On vacation once though in a theater there was this really cool good graphics flying game where you had like a flying bike and had to pedal to keep the copter up, you had stuff you had collect etc
Sounds like Prop-Cycle, that game is pretty cool. The newest game the theater has here is like... Hydro Thunder. Nobody maintains them either. Augh
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 20, 2009, 12:17:46 PM
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on September 20, 2009, 11:03:30 PM
I got an arcade in my mall, well it's a small mall and a mini arcade, but they are both indoors. Newest game I noticed as I walked past it was Time Crisis 2. I don't remember what was nex to it, but there was also a picture booth and a claw box (where you grab stuffed animals). It's right next to the toddler play area so I think they are aiming at the preteens, but I'm sure their goal wasn't to make money.
Dropping by to post that I recently one-credited Time Crisis 2. epeen+
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 20, 2009, 11:50:45 PM
Yeah they have them at some of the theaters here, really bad. On vacation once though in a theater there was this really cool good graphics flying game where you had like a flying bike and had to pedal to keep the copter up, you had stuff you had collect etc
Sounds like Prop-Cycle, that game is pretty cool. The newest game the theater has here is like... Hydro Thunder. Nobody maintains them either. Augh
You bumped a almost 6 year old thread to answer a question that probably no one cares about anymore? Where is that image of the hand reaching through the computer and slapping a person.
The only arcade within 50 miles of me is at an amusement park, and they have a crappy selection (and outdated. the newest game is the arcade version of Guitar Hero, and there was no fucking way I was gonna pay $2 to play it).
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 20, 2009, 11:53:29 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on September 21, 2009, 01:30:23 AM
The problem is that arcade hardware is too expensive to justify the manufacturers making it without the prices being exorbitant, meaning that the arcades charge $2.25 per credit in some places (New York), meaning that no one in their right mind goes out to arcades anymore, meaning that fewer manufacturers will make arcade games, etc.
In the US at least, you not only have home consoles smothering arcades but you also have the fact that the arcades are too expensive, coupled with the fact that they're perceived as hotbeds for crime/gang activity. All that considered, it's no surprise people choose to stay home.
It's a shame, too, because I loved arcades as a kid and dreamed of owning one. That'd be suicide in this day and age, though.
Post by: ThePerm on September 21, 2009, 02:57:36 AM
Post by: ThePerm on September 21, 2009, 03:05:45 AM
Arcades are on a slippery slope to doom right now.
The problem is that arcade hardware is too expensive to justify the manufacturers making it without the prices being exorbitant, meaning that the arcades charge $2.25 per credit in some places (New York), meaning that no one in their right mind goes out to arcades anymore, meaning that fewer manufacturers will make arcade games, etc.
In the US at least, you not only have home consoles smothering arcades but you also have the fact that the arcades are too expensive, coupled with the fact that they're perceived as hotbeds for crime/gang activity. All that considered, it's no surprise people choose to stay home.
It's a shame, too, because I loved arcades as a kid and dreamed of owning one. That'd be suicide in this day and age, though.
arcade manufactueres don't understand that quarters are where its at. When Pac-Man came out there was a shortage of quarters. Many people can play more often at lower prices. At higher prices fewer people play. Maybe the 10- rich guys go in there and plays the 2.00 game, but 50+ poor people play the 50 cent game. That is 25 bucks from the poor people and 20 bucks from the rich people, but also add the rich people there too because they'll play 4 times as much at lower prices and then its more like 45 bucks
Post by: ThePerm on September 21, 2009, 03:06:44 AM
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