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Title: How hardcore are you?
Post by: TheGodfather on December 14, 2003, 08:01:51 AM: I'm curious to know how many of you guys on here make it a point to buy games that are only exclusive to the cube? Do you only buy games that have the "only for" moniker in the left hand corner of the game box, or do buy whatever, just has long as its worth your hard earned cash?
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Post by: DrZoidberg on December 14, 2003, 08:05:28 AM: how do i be a fanboy, let me count the ways.
i buy games i like, regardless of platform. just because it's 'only for' gamecube doesn't necissarilly mean i'll like it, anyone who automaticaly buys 'only for' games should expand their mind.
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Post by: Grey Ninja on December 14, 2003, 08:20:26 AM: I have on occasion bought games that I felt the publisher made a special effort to put on GameCube, and I wanted to show my appreciation. (Viewtiful Joe is about the only one I can think of though).

I did have a birthday celebration for my GameCube this year though. I bought her a cake, and Mario Kart, and a bottle of champagne. She didn't get any champagne, but she did blow out the candles, and get to play Mario Kart. I also have a tattoo of Nintendo's Logo on my arm. (Yes, it's real).

The only non-Nintendo console I have ever owned was an Atari 2600.

Yes, I am hardcore.
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Post by: KnowsNothing on December 14, 2003, 08:49:42 AM: I buy games I'm interested in. Most of the time, they just happen to be exclusive. If there are two games I want, and one's exclusive, guess which one I'll buy? I do try to only buy exlcusives after making some big mistakes (Agent under fire, spiderman...).

Oh yeah, Grey Ninja is sexy.
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Post by: Uglydot on December 14, 2003, 09:18:52 AM: I puke when I hear the word hardcore.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on December 14, 2003, 09:26:26 AM: Out of my 17 Gamecube titles, only 1 is a non-exclusive title...That being Soul Calibur II(which has exclusive Link anyway)...The thing is, most third-parties don't to seem the understand the term "quality."

I consider a "hardcore" gamer to be one who follows gaming seriously and with passion, and I follow that philosophy...

Bill - Nintendo loyalist since 1989...
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Post by: Smashman on December 14, 2003, 09:44:27 AM: I buy any GameCube game that interests me, but Bill is right. Alot of third parties have nothing in terms of quality on Nintendo.

Super Mario Sunshine, Metroid Prime, The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker- my love of these three games defines my fanboyishness towards Nintendo.
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Post by: akdaman1 on December 14, 2003, 11:03:54 AM: Well I dont think being hardcore is counted by the amount of exclusive games one has but by thier skill as a gamer.

Me? I am hardcore ...All my games are exclusive and I have never ever bought a non - exclusive game for my ninty consoles. Third parties dont know what quality is ( except Capcom , Namco and Square ) , I ussualy stick to 1st and 2nd party games ...my only exception are Namco , Capcom and Square games. Although Ubi-Soft seem to be showing lots of promise as of late...
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Post by: Pale on December 14, 2003, 11:10:59 AM: I R H4|2D C0R3 TOOZ!
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Post by: mouse_clicker on December 14, 2003, 11:19:12 AM: I may only own two multiplatform game for my Gamecube, but that's for a number of reasons, none having anything to do with me being hardcore. First, the vast majority of good games for the Gamecube are exclusive, leaving little room for anything else. Second, the vast majority of multiplatform games suck @$$, leaving me with no desire to purchase them for any console. And third, the vast majority of good multiplatform games on the Gamecube are lazy ports of the PS2 version anyway, leaving me with a subpar version of what is otherwise an excellent game.

BTW, Pale, what do you think of Ico?
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Post by: Berny on December 14, 2003, 11:37:36 AM: I used to get "Only For" games. Mainly because they usually have the best quality. Then Soul Calibur II came along and had to ruin my streak. It is such a fun game though.
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Post by: Hostile Creation on December 14, 2003, 12:33:29 PM: I have two non-Nintendo games; one sucks, the other is okay. I'm mainly a Nintendo fan. . . almost every game they make seems to appeal to me in almost every way possible. . . it's bizarre. But I do like some 3rd party games. Mainly I'm interested in Killer 7, maybe Viewtiful Joe. But that's it so far.
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Post by: GoHuskers on December 14, 2003, 12:35:37 PM: I have 13 gamecube games and 5 of them are non-exclusive, but only 1 of those is a non-sports game. For the most part it seems multiplatform games are kind of worthless. I do have to admit though, that my favorite game (NCAA Football 2004) is a multiplatform game made by EA and my least favorite (Luigi's Mansion) was an exclusive made by Nintendo. Nintendo's still better than EA though.
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Post by: ezaphlix on December 14, 2003, 12:53:29 PM: I own a Virtual Boy. Need I say more?
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Post by: Pale on December 14, 2003, 12:58:56 PM: Uhmm Ico? not sure where that question came up. I own it, enjoyed it for quite a while, but for some reason haven't finished it yet. I think it is very very cool in the visual style and the concept is neat. Arm dragging physics are fun. Hmm, maybe i'll go finish that up now. Its definately worth buying though. I just always have too many games on my plate.
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Post by: akdaman1 on December 14, 2003, 01:02:04 PM: I got Ico , It is too slow paced for me , I played it for a while and it has some great puzzles in it .

Pros - Great presentation
- Smart puzzles
- Amazing Graphics

Cons - Slow paced gameplay ( but thats how its meant to be )
- Controls - slow reaction
- Repetive battles.

I rate it a 7/10 , if you are intrested in the game then you should get it.
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Post by: mouse_clicker on December 14, 2003, 01:02:54 PM: I looked at your game collection and noticed you had it marked as "Playing". Ico is one of my favorite games this generation, indeed one of my favorite games to date. You really should finish it, as I regard its ending cutscene as the best in a videogame ever.
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Post by: KnowsNothing on December 14, 2003, 01:06:01 PM: God Ico looks great, but there's no way I'll play it anytime soon. (years...)
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Post by: Pale on December 14, 2003, 01:11:04 PM: Ohh i see..i really should update the now playing thing... :-P Actually right now i'm playing Mario Kart and Final Fantasy IX, as weird as that sounds.
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on December 14, 2003, 02:17:38 PM: If I purchased GameCube games that only had the 'ONLY FOR' crap in the corner, I'd be owning that BeyBlades GC game now. NO THANKS. I purchase games that interest me. I'm not a ratings whore, or a graphics whore, which I why I still regard Sonic Mega Collection as one of the best GameCube games I've played. If I see something I know I'll love, I'll get it. The end.

*Stands up*
I own an Atari Lynx and I love it, I'm super hardcore 1337 whatever, d00ds. >=O
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Post by: BlkPaladin on December 14, 2003, 02:28:34 PM: Since I perfer the Gamecube over the other platforms if a game is on multiplatforms I usally buy it for the Gamecube. But as of the only on thing I don't go out of my way. If I like it I buy it.
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Post by: KDR_11k on December 14, 2003, 07:42:20 PM: I don't care about exclusivity status or publisher, I get what I like and that's it. However, experience told me that crossplatform games are usually bad since the porting indicates desire for more money. The same experience tells me to stay away from licensed games. I hate gameplay being compromised by outside material, be it realism, a franchise or a license. If they have a certain pool of signature moves they need to give a character, even though they don't fit into the game, that sucks. See Link in SC2 or pretty much every character in SSBM for reference.
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Post by: Luciferschild on December 14, 2003, 08:28:14 PM: How do you equate being hardcore with buying nintendo only games. To me that's not what being a hardcore gamer means, that's being a fanboy. Some of my games are exclusive and some of them aren't but I don't really pay attention to that because it doesn't matter. You should of said how much of a hardcore fanboy are you. I'm not a fanboy and everyone has their own definition of what "hardcore" means. Some might think of it as how good you are, some think of it as how much you play, some think of it as how much passion you have. I tend to think of it as all 3. I want nintendo to do well but at the end of the day I just want to play good games.
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Post by: akdaman1 on December 14, 2003, 10:46:52 PM: WHOA!!! Great way of putting it ...I actually didnt think ( ....) of it like that. This topic should be changed from hardcore to fanboy. Am I a Ninty fanboy ...HELL YEAH.

I enjoy ninty games because of the pure magic that put in them. I am also a Namco fanboy...4 games of theirs are in my top 10 list ( TOS and BK occupy # 1&2 while Donkey Konga is there somewhere...lower on the list is Star Fox 2 ) .
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Post by: Smashman on December 15, 2003, 01:57:45 AM: I have 22 GameCube games. Not only do I love going back and playing and replaying them (SSBM, Mario Sunshine, Metroid Prime, Wind Waker, F-Zero GX, Soul Calibur II- to name a few), but there are PLENTY of already-released and to-be-released GCN games I want as well. The rest of 2003, 2004, and 2005 will decide if GCN will be my favorite system, ever!

I cannot express my love of GCN enough!

But, I find myself to be a complete fanboy of Nintendo. Their games and magic have touched the lives of all gamers who ACTUALLY PLAY THEM.
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Post by: Termin8Anakin on December 15, 2003, 02:02:13 AM: I am not a hardcore gamer. I'm not a hardcore Nintendo gamer either.
I am a blind as hell Nintendo fanboy.
Talk to my friends, they know I hate PS2 and Xbox with a vengeance. And while I can explain it to myself, I simply cannot explain it to others cause it will simply be pure fanboy trash. Not all of Nintendo's games interest me, and it's quite true that I won't even GET to play some of these games cause they aren't released here or cause NIntendo haven't put out demos of the game.

If, and I stress the 'if', NIntendo went 3rd party, I wouldn't be of games forever, but there would be a 'mourning period' .

I didn't buy GC expecting I would ONLY buy exclusives. Most of my games, however, ARE exclusives, because they were the ones that interested me. I am not loaded with cash. My parent's aren't loaded with cash. I don't get bought 100 dollar presents on my birthday or on christmas like tons of other people here, hence the games i buy must be of high quality. While some people may think that Nintendo's games of later aren't THAT good, Nintendo-exclusives are the ones I turn to first before I turn to any genernal exclusives, and then I turn to the 3rd party games. If there was a game that interests me cause it's cheap, then I'll buy it.

That's my story. 5 years ago, if there was a game a REALLY wanted to get, all I had to do was wait till bday or christmas and BAM, new game. Not anymore
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Post by: Bill Aurion on December 15, 2003, 05:20:28 AM: Being a fanboy means that you constantly bash the other systems, and that isn't what I do...It's not my problem that Ninty makes the best games...
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Post by: KDR_11k on December 15, 2003, 06:20:04 AM: If we define hardcore as the opposite of casual that makes every single forum goer harcore...
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Post by: TheGodfather on December 15, 2003, 06:25:56 AM: Just disregard the title of the thread and answer the question within the thread. Arguing about semantics is silly. Hardcore, fanboy, brand loyal, who cares. The point of me creating this thread was to determine whether or not you allow the "only for" moniker to dictate your game purchasing habits. Its no more complicated then that.
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Post by: Ian Sane on December 15, 2003, 06:58:17 AM: Off the top of my head I think I have only 2 non-exclusive Cube games out of about 18 or so. Well technically Ocarina of Time and Sonic Mega Collection also aren't exclusive but they aren't on the PS2 or Xbox so I figure they count. I don't intentionally buy exclusive games it's just sort of an accident. When you look at most consoles of the past the best games were all exclusive so it makes sense I think for most people to have mostly exclusives in a collection. My SNES games are mostly exclusives as well.

Multiplatform releases often have the problem that because they have to work on multiple platforms they don't usually push the hardware so you end up with something that's at best passible for the most "inferior" hardware. A lot of the non-exclusive Cube games are also sloppy ports of PS2 games that were never designed with different hardware in mind.

The two non-exclusive Cube games I own are Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 and Soul Calibur II. The PS2 version of THPS3 is probably the best but the Cube ports of all the Tony Hawk games are pretty good since the only real difference is the controller and the lack of online capabilities. Though it's disappointing I consider those fair "flaws" with the conversion. Soul Calibur II or course is probably the only game this generation to have been released simultaneously on all three consoles where it's clear the designers tried to get the best they could out of each platform. Even if the exclusive characters weren't in there that would still be a good multiplatform release.

In terms of whether I'm a hardcore gamer or not well since I don't own the other two consoles, and thus don't play all of the must-play games of this generation, I guess I would automatically not qualify. I also don't really have enough free time to play games as much as I'd like to and I'm not very good at most games. I guess I would consider myself a videogame enthusiast who does his research before buying a game. The average person would think I'm hardcore but many of the hardcore would not.
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Post by: The Omen on December 15, 2003, 09:23:56 AM: Ive only owned Nintendo systems since 1985, so i guess i'm a part of the Nintendo cult. I've kind of figured out , in most cases what you grow up with, music movies or games, tend to remain with you forever, whereas the more recent releases will never surpass your old favorites. At least thats the boat i'm in.
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Post by: kennyb27 on December 15, 2003, 10:10:09 AM: I have 22 games for GCN. Six are EA games (Madden 2002, 2004; Harry Potter; James Bond; Tiger Woods; and Lord of the Rings), one is Sega (Sonic Adventure2: Battle), one is Capcom (Viewtiful Joe), and one is LucasArts (Rogue Squadron2: Rogue Leader). So, of the 22 games, 16 are "only for" GCN.

Basically, I buy what I'm interested in, but Nintendo is where my loyalty lies.
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Post by: Hostile Creation on December 15, 2003, 10:16:07 AM: Viewtiful Joe and Rogue Squadron are exclusive, aren't they? Not Nintendo, but still only for Gamecube I think.
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Post by: mouse_clicker on December 15, 2003, 11:32:49 AM: Both are exclusive, yes.
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Post by: Hostile Creation on December 15, 2003, 11:34:31 AM: Woohoo, me smart.

And I shall describe my hardcoriness by simply saying: IM AS HARDCORE AS TEH PEACH!1!!1!11!1!!
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Post by: kennyb27 on December 15, 2003, 04:31:25 PM: But I counted those two as exclusive; the six "unexclusive" ones are the EA games.
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Post by: Hostile Creation on December 15, 2003, 04:51:51 PM: So you did. Weird.

Dang, now I feel stupid again. . .
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Post by: Ms.Pikmin on December 15, 2003, 05:37:56 PM: My collection has mostly exclusives too. I don't just blindly buy titles because they're Nintendo or Gamecube exclusive, it's just that it happens to work out that way. The whole reason I bought Gamecube was because its titles appeal to me the most.

I am probably closest to what Ian described. I am an enthusiast who loves games but doesn't have time to play as much as what hardcore gamers do. And I don't play every game well. In general I don't suck at the games I have, but there are times when my 8 year old has to help me. -__-
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Post by: savanna03 on December 15, 2003, 06:01:55 PM: well back in the days, all my games were NINTENDO games but with GCN, it seems their games have grown in me. i cant believe i miss out so many great 3rd party games out there because i used to think without a NINTENDO seal of quality, its a crappy game. things change and now im drawn into 3rd party more than the 1st party games.

the problem with NINTENDO games is that i have "been there, done that" feeling about it. worst of all, there games are so easy. its kinda an insult to hardcore gamers who stuck by them for so long. ZELDA was a joke, i swear those bottles filled with fairies is useless and MARIO, getting 120 stars was no sweat either. they are now focusing on new gamers instead of keeping the hardcore happy. hmmmm...

i got to admit that METROID PRIME and ETERNAL DARKNESS was a relief but then again it wasn't made by EAD or any other JAPANESE STUDIO.
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Post by: Astrakan on December 15, 2003, 07:29:58 PM: The only games I buy for the GC are exclusives. Same with PS2. All multiplatform games I buy I get the Xbox version of.

KM