Post by: Mingesium on February 01, 2003, 06:30:24 PM
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Post by: Mingesium on February 01, 2003, 06:49:18 PM
Post by: epicac on February 02, 2003, 10:42:33 AM
IGDA Announces Game Developers Choice Awards Nominees
The International Game Developers Association (IGDA) announced the nominees for the Third Annual Game Developers Choice Awards, which will be handed out during at a ceremony at the Game Developers Conference on March 6. The nominees are:
Game of the Year
Original Game Character of the Year
Rookie Studio of the Year
Excellence in Audio
Excellence in Game Design
Excellence in Level Design
Excellence in Programming
Excellence in Visual Arts
Excellence in Writing
An advisory committee from the IGDA will select the recipients of the Lifetime Achievement Award, First Penguin Award and the IGDA Award for Community Contribution.
Post by: ShanD on February 02, 2003, 12:06:20 PM
Post by: 3_MaSteRPIeCE on February 02, 2003, 12:12:24 PM
Post by: ShanD on February 02, 2003, 01:28:31 PM
Post by: Mingesium on February 02, 2003, 01:33:38 PM
Post by: Cerberus on February 02, 2003, 04:29:12 PM
I can't wait.
Post by: Infinitipo on February 02, 2003, 06:39:00 PM
Post by: JSR on February 02, 2003, 07:25:04 PM
BTW, I do like how Wind Waker looks. Seeing such emotion in the characters is cool. Plus all the effects look great!
Post by: 3_MaSteRPIeCE on February 02, 2003, 07:37:41 PM
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I really am hopeful that Wind Waker will sell good here. But judging on the casual gamer thinking that WW is kiddy: I’m not sure how well it will sell. Sure, you’ll have the Nintendo fans and the Zelda fans, but Joe Xbox or Joe PS2 will probably not buy a GameCube for Zelda, unless they judge games by gameplay not graphics.
BTW, I do like how Wind Waker looks. Seeing such emotion in the characters is cool. Plus all the effects look great!
I disagree very strongly. I can spot as gamecube fanboys that say all xbox games suck as xboxers the same. And Fanboys that say most xbox people and ps2 people only rate games because of their graphics not gameplay.... ^^
the casual gamer WON'T think Zelda is kiddy. Trust me. 'cause with gamers all grown up these days, The only people that think games are kiddy are exactly kids (or kid in the brain) themselves.
Stereotyping... is generally not good. And i go to xbox forums and a majority say they might buy a gcn for zelda.
Post by: ThePerm on February 03, 2003, 06:43:47 AM
Post by: 3_MaSteRPIeCE on February 03, 2003, 01:02:26 PM
Remember the casual gamer is over 10 years now. Older gamers are supposed to be more mature and look at things in a non-biased perspective. (not saying a lot are non-biased anyways.)
And the fanboys that say they are too "mature" for things, are obviously not mture at all.
Besides, casual gamers probably never knew everything about the n64 and ps2 or indrema.... or that sony is in first place. you know... they don't really know about companies and statistics and all that.
Also i'm kinda ticked on how he was thinking that Gamecube owners look at gameplay not graphics more than xbox and ps2 owners. (which is probably true since, i must admit, that xbox and ps2 have a much wider base of fans.) but if the gcn and ps2 owners were all around the 1,000s i bet there will be the exact same amount of fanboys on each side
Post by: Ian Sane on February 03, 2003, 02:01:45 PM
Comparing it to Ocarina sales is silly because the N64 and Gamecube had very different environments to bring the game into. The N64 had a large userbase for it's first few years. Remember until late 1997 it was the market leader. When Ocarina came out there was a good amount of N64 owners who hadn't bought many games recently but had bought the console back in 1996. Suddenly the "greatest game of all time" comes out on a console they bought a few years ago but haven't given much attention to. Of course that game is going to sell. It's target audience is a large userbase starving for a decent title. The Gamecube is different. It doesn't have huge successful launch sales to bring up it's userbase. It isn't in a situation where it's owners are starved for a game. The situation doesn't lend itself as well to a record breaking success. First party games always sold huge on the N64 but not so much on the Gamecube. That's because on the Cube there's a similar sized userbase but more games to choose from so no one HAS to buy a game like Zelda in order to play something worthwhile on the Cube.
Post by: JSR on February 03, 2003, 08:48:21 PM
Post by: Game_Freak on February 03, 2003, 09:27:34 PM
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Well, theres going to be a backlash...and nintendo is gonna feel it. I think after wind waker fails..and it will(even if it is a great game) Nintendo is going to start doing some crazy stuff. Really the man every one in the industry should be fearing in 2003 is Satoru Iwata.
Excellent post. While i think that The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker will be a HUGE success, i wouldnt be disappionted if it flopped. Why? Because that might be enough to unplug Nintendo's heads out of thier asses (the marketing guys, not the developers, HELL NO). The results would be interesting. Nintendo would go all out and advertise Gamecube everywhere, offer 4 free games with Gamecubes, buy developers left right and center and make quality game after quality game etc. But seriously, i can guarantee that Wind Waker will be incredibly successful, my local store, in AUSTRALIA, has pre-orders for WW sold out! SOLD OUT! I went to pre-order it the other day and they said i couldnt because all 80 copies had already been preordered! I went to a different EB and luckily they had a few left so i did get to preorder it. And also, the pre-order bonus disk hasnt even been announced for Australia yet! It appears that the exact opposite of what i thought would happen is happening, casual gamers really like Wind Waker
And also, i think that Nintendo America have an EXCELLENT advertise campaign coming up for Zelda, combined with the bonus disk, buy one get one free deal (GC, Metroid and Zelda for $200 ) and the actual gameplay of Wind Waker and you have the most pre-ordered and possibly the highest selling game in videogame history!
Post by: epicac on February 04, 2003, 01:13:14 PM
Right now at GameFaqs.com they have a poll about whether or not visitors to the site have preordered TWW. As of this post 34,561 have voted. When you take out the 10,865 visitors who don't have a Gamecube system, that leaves you with 23,696 Gamecube owners. Of those people 9,513 say they've already preordered. That's approximately 40%. When we take into account that there are approximately 3,260,000 Gamecube owners in America (whom I assume make up the majority of gamefaqs visitors) to can determine that if the 40% preorder rate holds true for them all, Zelda will sell 1,304,000 copies on preorder alone. If this number seems really, really high it's because it is. I don't think any game has ever surpassed the platinum mark before even being released.
You see, people who visit sites like gamefaqs are more likely to keep up to date on the video game industry than are the 3.26 million Gamecube owners. This means they're not as likely to preorder, perhaps because they're unaware of the preorder bonus disc. At least some of those Gamecube owners are also people who rarely buy or play games anymore as well. So I don't have any faith in these numbers I've thrown around, but it makes you think, doesn't it? This game has the potential to break some preorder records and maybe even some overall sales records.
Post by: Mingesium on February 04, 2003, 03:01:15 PM
Post by: Game_Freak on February 07, 2003, 03:02:33 AM
WOW! Wind Waker is teh popular, i think it will definately break at least one sales record.
Post by: silverwings01 on February 10, 2003, 09:53:40 AM
Don't take the casual gamer too lightly. (err. . . maybe not) But considering I live in a high X-box populated area (apparently the free games bargain was targeted at suburban maryland. . .) theres a lot of hype surrounding the launch. A lot more than with Metroid Prime, by the way.
And I hear the free game sale is starting soon. They'll be adds up for that in a few days, if not already. People respond to things in predictable ways. They see FREE and decided that it must be better because its the better deal.
Post by: RahXephon on February 11, 2003, 04:32:01 PM
Post by: couchmonkey on February 17, 2003, 04:35:00 PM
Overall, I expect Zelda to do very well, but I don't think the sales will be record-breaking, in fact I don't think they will even meet Nintendo's expectations. That's a shame for people like me who love the look of the game but hopefully Nintendo will learn something from it and improve the situation next time.
Post by: RahXephon on February 18, 2003, 02:29:57 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on February 18, 2003, 05:45:00 AM
I'd still like to see the game do well purely because I'm a fan of Zelda and Nintendo.
Post by: Mario on February 18, 2003, 02:07:46 PM
Post by: ThePerm on February 18, 2003, 05:00:06 PM
Post by: yeg0 on February 22, 2003, 06:26:09 PM
Post by: VideoGamerX on February 23, 2003, 09:50:48 AM
However, it occurs to me that everybody and his brother that owns a Gamecube is preordering Zelda, namely for the bonus disc. Frankly, I'm surprised if Nintendo shipped 250,000 bonus discs. I think Ocarina of Time could sell 3,000,000 copies on the Gamecube, too.
If there are enough preorders, it will be hard for Zelda to keep up that kind of pace. However, I do think the amount of consoles sold will spike in response to the release. The increase will be the factor. With only a small climb in console sales, Wind Waker should sell approximately 1,500,000 to 2,000,000 copies in all. If good number of consoles move, then it could sell 3,000,000 no sweat. If Wind Waker caused the kind of craze Ocarina of Time did, then it would probably tie or break its record, but I don't think that will happen. It's just not likely.
Post by: GoHuskers on February 23, 2003, 01:16:28 PM
I used to be one of those people who totally hated the toon shading, but over time it's grown on me a little bit. I would still much rather prefer realistic graphics, but I will finally admit that the toon shading is probably the best approach to the WW game. I think they should keep the toon graphics for the rest of the GC games, but upgrade to realistic graphics as soon as technology is advanced enough where you can get the fluidity of toon shading with realistic graphics. That'll be the day.
The toon shading looks pretty nice in the video clips, but what's up with the ReDead's?
I was laughing out loud when I saw a picture of them.
Post by: Mingesium on March 02, 2003, 05:30:32 PM
Maybe 300,000 refers to the number of Bonus disk they produced and the actual pre-orders number is higher.
Post by: Nintendo on March 30, 2003, 05:34:39 AM
Post by: VideoGamerX on March 30, 2003, 08:48:57 AM
And I have to say that after playing Wind Waker, I don't think there's a single person in the world who can say the graphics have ruined it for them without it being a lie. It looks so fluid and natural (the graphics) that I don't know if another Zelda game will ever top it. There's too much about this game that feels natural and welcoming.
After the fence riding people give this game a try, they will most certainly want to buy it. I wouldn't doubt if this game doesn't pass a million sales within its first two weeks of release.
