Community Forums => General Chat => Topic started by: Gibdo Master on December 04, 2003, 05:45:10 PM
Title: TIME-TRAVELER
Post by: Gibdo Master on December 04, 2003, 05:45:10 PM
Click here and read the news story. Pretty funny. I like the little cliff hanger there about how there's no record of the guy before December 2002. Of course Andrew Carlssin probably just isn't his real name.
I think this kind of raises a good question about time travel though. If it were actually possible why haven't we had anything happen like this before for real? One thing I've thought of even though I really don't believe it is that all these alien abductions you hear about are actually caused by evolved humans that have traveled back in time to study the past.
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Post by: Bloodworth on December 04, 2003, 06:15:44 PM
That's a riot! :-D
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Post by: TOY on December 04, 2003, 06:35:15 PM
Wow, impressive. And I always thought Einstein was an idiot for saying time travel was possible. Who knew. On a side note, how much do you think we could get for a time machine on E-BAY?
TOY
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Post by: Berny on December 04, 2003, 06:40:46 PM
I read that before. Interesting stuff....I am that man. MWAH HA HA! *zaps back to the future*
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Post by: Gibdo Master on December 04, 2003, 06:44:56 PM
Quote Originally posted by: TOY On a side note, how much do you think we could get for a time machine on E-BAY?
Why don't you just try it out? There's all sorts of crazy made up crap on E-Bay to bid on and plenty of stupid bidders. I've heard of somone auctioning off a ghost in a jar for crying out loud. You probably wouldn't have any trouble auctioning off a time machine.
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Post by: Grey Ninja on December 04, 2003, 06:50:42 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Gibdo Master Click here I think this kind of raises a good question about time travel though. If it were actually possible why haven't we had anything happen like this before for real? One thing I've thought of even though I really don't believe it is that all these alien abductions you hear about are actually caused by evolved humans that have traveled back in time to study the past.
That was always one of my primary arguments too. Since all I know about this story is what you just linked me to, I have absolutely no way of saying that the guy is lying. About the only thing I can really see wrong with his story from reading that is that he claims to be from 200 years in the future. I highly doubt that the human race will last that long.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on December 04, 2003, 07:03:33 PM
This is one of those issues where the answer doesn't seem plausible, but you can't completely discard it...It's a scary thought, actually...
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Post by: KDR_11k on December 05, 2003, 06:00:59 AM
I still don't get why people think time is dimensional. Even if it was, things that MOVE through time, well, move. Moving means you no longer are where you were. So if you went 200 years back you'd notice you missed Earth by 200 years. BTW, you'd need to travel quite a distance after the time-travel, the Sol system is moving pretty fast. To solve the movement-problem you have to assume things extrude through time, which means their mass increases. If you went back and changed the past, why should the present care? If both past and present can coexist in an n-dimensional space, why should one bother with the state of the other? Would the past just re-extrude while removing any matter left by the former timeline? Would this re-extrusion ever catch up with the present or would it lag behind? I think until we resolved ALL of those conflicts we should assume the non-dimensionality or non-existence of time.
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Post by: Ian Sane on December 05, 2003, 06:25:04 AM
"'We don't believe this guy's story -- he's either a lunatic or a pathological liar,' says an SEC insider."
Gee you think?
If this guy IS from the future then it's best we just send him home. Even the slightest change could alter the future in ways we can't imagine. It's funny how he's offering the cure for AIDS and whereabouts of Osama Bin Laden. How does he know this stuff? I don't know what the vacination for small pox is so unless he's a scientist (though he might be if he invented the device) how would he know the cure for AIDS?
"However, he refuses to reveal the location of the machine or discuss how it works, supposedly out of fear the technology could 'fall into the wrong hands.'"
Hasn't it already fallen into the wrong hands if the guy is using it to make money off of the stock market? Maybe it already has fallen into the wrong hands. I mean no one would know if history was tampered with. Perhaps World War II and the September 11 tragedy were all the result of misuse of time travel.
The funny thing is that he could very well be telling the truth but everyone is going to think he's full of sh!t no matter what. That's like a staple of time travel science fiction.
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Post by: thecubedcanuck on December 05, 2003, 08:10:55 AM
Brought to you by the "Weekly World News" the same puplication that also uncovered "JFK and Reagan met with aliens at the white house" (they even pictures) and a nice little story about a half pig half boy that was doing university level math at the age of 8.
Grain of salt officially taken
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Post by: Hostile Creation on December 05, 2003, 09:24:28 AM
Heh, cool.
Personally, I don't think time is as fragile as we think; it'll work itself out. But I also think that UFOs are students of the future taking a field trip during history class, for hands on activities, so to speak.
I also don't see why inside information should be illegal. If you can get a hold of it, kudos to you. You're more determined than anyone else to get stocks, so you earned them. But I know nothing about stocks, so I'm probably wrong.
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Post by: The Omen on December 05, 2003, 09:51:34 AM
Quote Wow, impressive. And I always thought Einstein was an idiot for saying time travel was possible. Who knew.
You thought he was an idiot?
By the way, time travel has been done, about 60 some odd years ago. Of course, it'll never copme out officially, but since the 30's the U.S. has been trying to perfect it. In fact Einstein and another German scientist were involved with the 'Manhattan project" But i'll just be labled a crack pot, so i'll shut up now.
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Post by: Hostile Creation on December 05, 2003, 09:57:40 AM
"Manhatten Project". . . isn't that the name of the atomic bomb development?
Grey Ninja has a good Einstein quote on his little site thingy he showed me in PGC discussion, more moderation please thread. Something about relativity; funny.
Title: RE: TIME-TRAVELER
Post by: Ian Sane on December 05, 2003, 10:46:29 AM
"By the way, time travel has been done"
No kidding. I'm traveling to the future as we speak at a rate of 1 second per second.
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Post by: KDR_11k on December 05, 2003, 11:10:18 AM
I guess the other German you refer to is was Werner von Braun. A rocket scientist. Famous quote: "My job is to get the missile up in the air, where it comes down is none of my business".
That story was so obviously fake... I mean, quotes like "he's either insane or lying" sound pretty manufactured, the kind that time-travel stories put in the mouth of disbelievers, not like something anybody would actually say. If the gov really suspected any time travel, they'd lock him up where the public will never see him again and interrogate him. I believe the gov is really effective at interrogations, at least the inofficial kind.
Ian: I don't believe you. First you have to prove that 1. time exists and 2. time is dimensional.
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Post by: nolimit19 on December 05, 2003, 11:22:27 AM
speak crack pot....anyways, i tend not to believe it, but you cant ignore the fact that he made 126 high rist investments. its not like it was 10 or 20 or even 50.....126. how does someone have that much insider info. thats not like winning the lottery, its like winning hte lottery 126 times. KDR_11k brings up good points, but omen must speak out. we all know that the american government does crazy things, so just say it, what do you have to lose.
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Post by: Pale on December 05, 2003, 11:48:37 AM
See, you are making the mistake of believing that anything in the story is true.
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Post by: nolimit19 on December 05, 2003, 12:12:23 PM
it is on yahoo, so i tend to believe more because of that, but of course the possibility exsists that its just completely fabricated.
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Post by: ThePerm on December 05, 2003, 12:45:59 PM
well i rememeber when we had a big discussion on time and it was great...i think im one of the people who stated that time doesnt really exist and that its actually just a human concept
Title: RE: TIME-TRAVELER
Post by: Ian Sane on December 05, 2003, 12:57:14 PM
"Ian: I don't believe you. First you have to prove that 1. time exists and 2. time is dimensional."
Fine don't believe me but I just travelled one second into the future. Hey I just did it again!
I'm the first non-Brazilian person to travel through time. Except for that Andrew guy of course.
Title: RE: TIME-TRAVELER
Post by: TOY on December 05, 2003, 02:51:16 PM
The Omen, I was being sarcastic about Einstein, I realise he was a genius. But honestly I dont believe people can travel through time, but thats just my opinion, I could be wrong. Heres a question, If he traveled back 200 years then he doesnt exist in this time so he cant give himself the money. What is he going to do with it? If the plan is to take it back with him, why not just rob a couple banks and leave? Besides, just think of the THINGS he could take back with him that would be worth alot of money in 200 years. Why bother with the stock market?
TOY
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Post by: nolimit19 on December 05, 2003, 06:00:46 PM
toy just nailed it....
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Post by: Hostile Creation on December 05, 2003, 06:13:05 PM
Money would be worthless in two hundred years. Agreed.
But I'd still do it for the thrill. The bank robbing, that is.
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Post by: thecubedcanuck on December 06, 2003, 05:45:22 AM
"I also don't see why inside information should be illegal. If you can get a hold of it, kudos to you. You're more determined than anyone else to get stocks, so you earned them. But I know nothing about stocks, so I'm probably wrong."
LOL, one day when you have money and are looking to invest it you will quickly see why Insider info is so dangerous. Insider Info is so prevalent in the industry it isnt even funny, it is IMO the plague of the markets.
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Post by: The Omen on December 06, 2003, 07:09:08 AM
Quote "Manhatten Project". . . isn't that the name of the atomic bomb development?
Yes/ I meant the 'Philadelphia experiment'. Got confused for a second. By the way, i wasn't inferring that i believe this particular story, although its quite odd. Its funny that he says he won't reveal where his time craft is, but his reasoning is correct. He'd never leave this planet alive without 'black budget' houligans reverse engineering it.
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Post by: Hostile Creation on December 06, 2003, 07:13:47 AM
Okay, just checking.
cubedcanuck, you're almost definitely right. But I don't know if I really want to get involved with stocks, so perhaps I'll never know the truth about inside info.
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Post by: thecubedcanuck on December 06, 2003, 07:43:26 AM
"I don't know if I really want to get involved with stocks"
you will if you want to retire rich, there is no better, and I repeat, no better long term investment than stocks.
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Post by: KDR_11k on December 06, 2003, 08:28:50 AM
Yeah, except if you fail to predict a crisis (coughdotcombubbleburstingcough).
I wonder if there were really 126 opportunities to make that much money in one year (the story is pretty old). Still, the story is most likely 100% fabricated, maybe somebody just didn't understand what the Onion is?
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Post by: Hostile Creation on December 06, 2003, 08:50:28 AM
I don't really intend to live long enough to retire. I'm hoping to die young, sort of. Thanks for offering, though
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Post by: The Omen on December 06, 2003, 12:00:08 PM
Quote I don't really intend to live long enough to retire. I'm hoping to die young, sort of. Thanks for offering, though
Me too, but i want to be filthy rich first, then die from my intense funneling of any and everything alcohol related.
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Post by: Hostile Creation on December 06, 2003, 06:23:34 PM
Woohoo! Alcohol rocks my cannibalistic sox!
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Post by: Grey Ninja on December 06, 2003, 08:54:45 PM
Quote Originally posted by: The Omen
Quote I don't really intend to live long enough to retire. I'm hoping to die young, sort of. Thanks for offering, though
Me too, but i want to be filthy rich first, then die from my intense funneling of any and everything alcohol related.
I'm working on the alcohol related stuff right now, and I am hardly rich. It's never too early to start your journey to becoming an alcoholic.
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Post by: KDR_11k on December 06, 2003, 09:17:54 PM
Alcohol impairs your aim.
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Post by: Grey Ninja on December 06, 2003, 09:22:13 PM
KDR, I am a pretty fine shooter both in real life and in video games. I find that after a few beers, I actually play a little better. The reason is that I am able to hold off the shot for a fraction of a second longer, which gives me more time to line up the shot. Basically, I am calmer, and have a greater amount of patience after a few beers. My reaction time and sight isn't affected to a great degree.
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Post by: BoboThePenguin on December 07, 2003, 01:34:06 AM
I would like to posse a question: "If you went back in time and killed your grandfather before your mother was born, what would happen?"
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Post by: oohhboy on December 07, 2003, 01:55:22 AM
Where is a time cop when you need one. Go Van Damm!
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on December 07, 2003, 02:33:19 AM
Once, I got pretty drunk and found out I could do the ultra-precise timing Iron Man infinite in MVC2 a little bit more effectively. Being relaxed and unhesitant helps, I think.
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Post by: KDR_11k on December 07, 2003, 03:16:03 AM
Bobo: God would dispose of you.
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Post by: Hostile Creation on December 07, 2003, 06:33:40 AM
He would die. And then time would work its way around the problem by having YOU be your own grandfather, since you're the most genetically similar person in the world. Have a nice time with your grandmammy, man.
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Post by: Shift Key on December 10, 2003, 12:27:38 AM
Drinking + gaming eh? I haven't really thought of that as a performance edge. I can't say that I have an itchy trigger finger in games, but I'm up for trying most things.
My speech and thinking go out the window when I get tanked, but my reactions and motor skills are just fine. Dancing? Horrible, sober or otherwise.
I'll have to test it at the next LAN. Guess who's not driving!?!?!
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Post by: vudu on December 10, 2003, 06:21:46 AM
two questions: where did he get the initial $800 to invest in the stock market? i doubt he used currency from the year 2256. also, why not just go back to the 60's (or thereabouts) and invest in ge, coke, etc, then pop into the late 90s and reap all the rewards. you could be multimillionaire in a matter of hours rather than waste a whole two weeks.