Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: The Omen on December 01, 2003, 09:53:59 AM
Title: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: The Omen on December 01, 2003, 09:53:59 AM
Its Nintendos online strategy! And it will be revolutionary because its free. I can see it now. Both the GBA and the GC, online in March! See, its neither a new console nor handheld. Jump on board. I'm so smart...smart i am.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on December 01, 2003, 10:06:42 AM
I will openly laugh at your assumption right now
hahaha
.. God I hope that you're right, though
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: vudu on December 01, 2003, 10:08:22 AM
that's the dumbest thing i've heard you say since your suggestion for a games based on nightmare on elm street. nothing nintendo has ever said even remotely hints that the gamecube (and especially the gameboy advance) will ever go online in march. several things they've said completely goes against all possibility that nintendo will ever go online this generation.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: The Omen on December 01, 2003, 10:20:40 AM
Yeah, because the way i annointed myself 'so smart' didn't seem sarcastic, did it?
Quote that's the dumbest thing i've heard you say since your suggestion for a games based on nightmare on elm street.
Glad i affected your life in such a drastic way that you remember my Halloween induced dementia. Now go get your shinebox.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Strell on December 01, 2003, 11:34:11 AM
I could have sworn that it was basically understood that the new product would be the Konga controller.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 01, 2003, 11:37:06 AM
Um, no...The DK controller has already been revealed so scratch that off the list...
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Strell on December 01, 2003, 11:44:47 AM
Has there been an official announcement to the general public?
Remember kids, just because we're all so smart and cool that we find out stuff on the 'net BEFORE most normal consumers do, doesn't mean the Konga controller won't be it. What do I mean by this? Nintendo hasn't, as far as I know, made any real announcements about the controller in AMERICA. Of course, in Japan, it's being shown off and whatnot. But I haven't seen them announcing it here.
What did someone point out? Some bigwig at Nintendo said "You can't beat it out of me?" Beat? Beat drums? Haha, Mistar Nintendar man...
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 01, 2003, 11:49:16 AM
The Donkey Konga commercial has been aired in Japan for a while now, so yes, it has been revealed to the public...I believe the announcement will be something completely new...
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Strell on December 01, 2003, 11:50:39 AM
Did you read my message?
NOT IN AMERICA.
I think America and Japan are two different countries.
There are people in America who STILL ask questions like "Can PS2 games be played on the Gamecube? Doesn't Sony make the Gamecube?" And you think they know about the Konga controller?
Yea ok.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 01, 2003, 11:56:28 AM
Fine, you go off and believe that the announcement will be the DK controller...I can tell you this: There is no way Ninty would reveal an announcement in the future to only the online crowd and then reveal that the announcement is something that the online crowd already knows about...Do you think any casual gamers know that an announcement will be made? I think not...It won't be the DK controller...period...
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Strell on December 01, 2003, 12:03:37 PM
You're missing the point entirely.
ENTIRELY.
Nintendo is a big name company, and when they want to reveal a major product, they do so with press release. They have one of their bigwigs trot out to a room full of reporters, they reveal the product, answer questions, show a demo, and finish the interview.
You'll notice that if Nintendo is going to reveal a product that they've "never made before" that chances are they will PROBABLY back it up with A) a press release and B) a marketing push.
You forget that the only reason we know about the Konga controller is because it's being released in Japan and we have access to websites that can get the information about it and show it off to us.
Nintendo doesn't consider that kind of table-scrapping a press release. And if they are so confident in the product, and if they are going to surround it in mystery by saying it is "something we've never done before," you can bet they are going to open with a bang on the product.
So a few measly pics of a controller and some blurry screenshots from a game that isn't even translated because it's in ANOTHER COUNTRY is going to cut it for them as a viable form of press release.
It's like when a game gets released in Japan and we know about it, and then two months later Nintendo says they are "releasing a brand new game in America!" like it's something we've never seen before, and we end up seeing that it's just their news release of the translated game we read about two months ago. Just because we knew about it in advance doesn't mean that it's been officially revealed to the public.
But whatever. If I'm right, I'm right, and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I really wouln't put too much stock into Nintendo. We've seen time and time again that they delay products and release things that we knew were coming.
So I really, REALLY wouldn't get your hopes up for something truly astounding, like an online strategy.
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Ian Sane on December 01, 2003, 12:33:12 PM
I doubt it's an online strategy and I also doubt it's the Konga controller. It seems unlikely that Nintendo would hype up something already shown in Japan as an exciting new product. The Gamecube debuted in Japan and it's not like when it was shown at E3 Nintendo promoted it as never-before-seen. If the product is merely the Konga controller than NOA has really lost it. Nintendo already pissed off some of the internet gaming community (who are the only ones who will even know about this announcement) with the Megaton thing which wasn't even their fault. I doubt they want to get a reputation for being a let down with hyped announcements. If it's something lame I assure you it will be something lame that we haven't seen before.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: The Omen on December 01, 2003, 12:37:52 PM
In all seriousness, i wouldn't be surprised if it was their online strategy. On the other hand, i also wouldn't be surprised if it were a new GC color or something so infantile that the announcement is worthless. I just felt like throwing a new hat into the ring with the online theory.
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Rhoq on December 01, 2003, 12:40:31 PM
It can't be the Konga controller. It's not very impressive to begin with and it's hardly anything that can cause stir within the gaming industry.
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Infernal Monkey on December 01, 2003, 12:55:03 PM
What is this, the new 'MegaT0000n omfg i guess nintendos surprise!111' thread?
.. Cool. Maybe Nintendo will release a GameCube PART 2. It's an add-on to your GameCube. It'll let you play CD-i Zelda's, Atari 2600 games and make toast.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 01, 2003, 12:58:44 PM
And there can be a waffle iron add-on, too. That's been in the works for a while, I hear
Interesting ideas. . . I don't think it's the Konga controller. . . are we even sure that game is coming out in the US? It could be an online plan, but it doesn't initially strike me as being that. I dunno, really. We'll see.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Infernal Monkey on December 01, 2003, 01:12:54 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Hostile Creation And there can be a waffle iron add-on, too. That's been in the works for a while, I hear
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Mario on December 01, 2003, 02:02:08 PM
^ LOL
Its either Holographic gaming, or some other new way of playing games. My cat told me.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: kennyb27 on December 01, 2003, 03:32:19 PM
Well, it won't be the Konga controller. Let's look at what we know.
-When they revealed that they would have a press conference back in August, the conference took place in Japan and they said it would be revealed in Spring 2004
-If it was indeed the Konga controller, then a Nintendo of America representative would have made the announcement about the showing; however, it was made (again) in Japan and commented on by Nintendo's president Satoru Iwata (no that's not Nintendo of America's president for those who don't know).
-According to CNN Money Nintendo has not told the American senior executives what it was.
Oh, and let's not all attack Omen for this idea (knowing he was sarcastic to begin with) because the online idea was even thrown out by Jeff Brown, vice president of corporate communications for EA.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: The Omen on December 01, 2003, 04:01:42 PM
Quote Oh, and let's not all attack Omen for this idea (knowing he was sarcastic to begin with) because the online idea was even thrown out by Jeff Brown, vice president of corporate communications for EA.
It is the only thing i could think of ....and Nintendo has always sprung surprises. Kudos to Jeff Brown
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: the_zombie_luke on December 01, 2003, 06:20:10 PM
I remember someone on the PGC staff said they knew it was a game, yet not which one. But this old news posting does back up Omen's original post: http://www.planetgamecube.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=3827&FTVAR_MSGDBTABLE=
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Mario on December 01, 2003, 06:31:58 PM
Mario Tennis with free Tennis Racquet accessory, which you plug into your GameCube and hit wildly around the air and the movement of the character on the screen corresponds to your actions sort of like eye toy. Possible? Oh.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 01, 2003, 06:37:31 PM
Wow, what a great idea!
*imagines destroyed room*
Err...Maybe not... T_T''
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: yellowfellow on December 01, 2003, 06:48:35 PM
well, the fact that it is going to be announced in the US implies that it will be a "solution" to a problem that american consumers have raised.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: akdaman1 on December 01, 2003, 07:05:30 PM
I say that it is Too Human ( although thats porbaly on the N5 ) OR gAME zERO
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Infernal Monkey on December 01, 2003, 07:45:19 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Mario Mario Tennis with free Tennis Racquet accessory, which you plug into your GameCube and hit wildly around the air and the movement of the character on the screen corresponds to your actions sort of like eye toy. Possible? Oh.
That'd be the best thing EVER. I'd hit people with it.
*20-LOVE* "WHAT YOU SAY?" *BAM*
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Gibdo Master on December 01, 2003, 07:48:16 PM
One suggestion that seems reasonable coming from the nintendojo.com boards is that it will be some sort of nostalgia console that will allow you to play all past Nintendo games on it similar to the iQue. Because of the wait and hype over this thing I'll probably be disappointed no matter what it is though unless it's the Nintendo Matrix.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: the_zombie_luke on December 01, 2003, 08:05:58 PM
I doubt they would make a system like that. They would have a hard time finding the parts for the Famicoms, for one thing. I guess they could have old games online to download, since they obviously make good roms, as seen in the perfect ports of the NES games in AC.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Gibdo Master on December 01, 2003, 09:53:48 PM
Quote Originally posted by: the_zombie_luke I doubt they would make a system like that. They would have a hard time finding the parts for the Famicoms, for one thing. I guess they could have old games online to download, since they obviously make good roms, as seen in the perfect ports of the NES games in AC.
What are you talking about? Why would they need parts for the Famicom?
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: the_zombie_luke on December 01, 2003, 10:08:34 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Gibdo Master
Quote Originally posted by: the_zombie_luke I doubt they would make a system like that. They would have a hard time finding the parts for the Famicoms, for one thing. I guess they could have old games online to download, since they obviously make good roms, as seen in the perfect ports of the NES games in AC.
What are you talking about? Why would they need parts for the Famicom?
If they were indeed making a system that played old games, you would have to get the old hardware that played the games. Nobody makes the parts for NES or Super NES anymore.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: The Omen on December 02, 2003, 06:05:06 AM
If it is my online theory, i wonder what games are slated to be released around Spring. Metroid, although i dont know what multi-player would add. Maybe Pokemon, or is that out already? They already are making games LAN enabled, so maybe those would be part of it. And wasn't Game Zero supposedly rumored to be a MMORPG? Or registered as such? Or maybe it was MMO shooter, but i do remember hearing it was online, in rumor mills, of course.. Oh well, enough rumor mongering for the day. My other question for those that say its too late to implement online this generation-why? Cant the network just rollover to the N5?
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Ian Sane on December 02, 2003, 06:57:59 AM
"If they were indeed making a system that played old games, you would have to get the old hardware that played the games. Nobody makes the parts for NES or Super NES anymore."
Gee God forbid they, I don't know, MAKE NEW PARTS. Actually I believe both consoles were still manufactered in Japan until recently. I would buy such a device on the first day of release. I've never had an NES so it would be cool to be able to play everything without hooking multiple devices to the TV. However to make such a device it would have to be pretty big to accomdate the different controller ports and cartridge slots.
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: vudu on December 02, 2003, 07:14:15 AM
while it is very unlikely that nintendo is planning on releasing a console that can play older games, it would be kinda cool. i would definately consider picking one up. especially because i'm far too lazy to dig up my old nes and snes.
i remember reading a while back that nintendo stopped servicing the nes at the beginning of this year, so it might make sense (in a weird nintendo sort of way) that they would stop repair work on the nes because they were going to release a new console that could play those games.
also, a "new and exciting product" would most likely be a console/controller/etc rather than a game. i don't consider a game to be a product. maybe that's just me. or it could be an issue with translation.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: akdaman1 on December 02, 2003, 08:39:44 AM
It wont be a console with backwards compatibility or whatever. Too much licecses to dig up and law suits to be had.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: the_zombie_luke on December 02, 2003, 08:46:17 AM
Quote Originally posted by: The Omen If it is my online theory, i wonder what games are slated to be released around Spring. Metroid, although i dont know what multi-player would add. Maybe Pokemon, or is that out already? They already are making games LAN enabled, so maybe those would be part of it. And wasn't Game Zero supposedly rumored to be a MMORPG? Or registered as such? Or maybe it was MMO shooter, but i do remember hearing it was online, in rumor mills, of course.. Oh well, enough rumor mongering for the day. My other question for those that say its too late to implement online this generation-why? Cant the network just rollover to the N5?
Yeah, why is Nintendo making so many games LAN capable? They didn't build the feature into the GameCube like PS2 or X-Box, and now they're pushing it like crazy. Imagine if they made software that let older GameCube games go online, like Smash Brothers. The only thing that would hinder Nintendo going online is the user base, but with the PS2's user base you would expect a higher percentage of online players, yet it is relatively small. If someone can make a killer app for online, it's Nintendo.
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Mario on December 02, 2003, 09:31:03 AM
If any game was to go online on GC, Starfox 2 would be the perfect game. And Mario Tennis. But i doubt Nintendo will go online this gen.
Quote and now they're pushing it like crazy.
I must have missed all that LAN promotion Nintendo did then, oh well.
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: KDR_11k on December 02, 2003, 09:33:37 AM
I suspect the Nintendo Thwomp!(TM). Floats in the air until something gets under it and... THWOMP! This surprise announcement is either overhype or it's something that original we can't even imagine it yet (even though we might think "d'Oh! Why didn't I think of that?" afterwards). Hey, maybe they're going to release an android? Cooks, cleans, stops alien invasions and plays Nintendo games!
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: vudu on December 02, 2003, 09:55:13 AM
the return of rob!! how could we have not seen this coming??
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: The Omen on December 02, 2003, 10:01:09 AM
Quote I must have missed all that LAN promotion Nintendo did then, oh well.
Just Nintendo implementing LAN is a huge transistion for them. Frankly, we all know promotion was not Nintendos strength until the last 3 months.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: bostwick202 on December 02, 2003, 10:16:30 AM
i know. IT is a new attachment for the gamecube. Through the bottom you would be able to connect the new.....NINTENDO GRILL! Think about that, can a PS2 or an Xbox grill you a hamberger while you play? I think not! it would give nintendo a true lead in the console race.
P.s. If i had photoshop or something like that i would merge a picture of a gamecube and a george forman grill. But i dont. If anyone does that would be really cool!
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Berny on December 02, 2003, 10:42:28 AM
About the best I can do is cut out a forman grill paste it to a picture of a Gamecube and scan it into my pooter. Is that ok?
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Polemistis on December 02, 2003, 04:22:24 PM
My guess is that it will be some new enhancement for the gamecube which will lead up to the N5. O! Maybe it will also have some connectivity with another Nintendo product, present or future, as they like experimenting with connectivity.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 02, 2003, 04:49:28 PM
I got an email from nonjagged, who was apparently banned for writing MS like M$, regarding this. It was about holograms or cheap laptops or something.
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: vudu on December 03, 2003, 08:23:39 AM
::bans hostile creation for typing M$::
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: thepoga on December 03, 2003, 09:42:59 AM
okay this is a message for stell
well, u know how u said that its the donkey konga controller? and that "nobody" knows about it in the us really except people who found it out on the net. well, sorry to break it to u, but there are things called "magazines". whoa. like, donkey konga was mentioned in egm already and im sure other magazines as well. people dont find things out at "the OFFICIAL" announcement. and the thing is revolutionary as nintendo has stated so it cant be the controller because the samba de amigo controller has already done it. so ya.
but i wonder what the new product really will be. as u all know(or i hope u all know) it is hardware that is not related to the gamecube or gameboy or console gaming. so it cant be the next console. as mentioned earlier, it IS probably a kitchen utility of some sort.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: yellowfellow on December 03, 2003, 11:25:41 AM
jesus people... its the revival of the Nintendo Cereal System, except (here's the kicker) now with a thrid compartment featuring Pokemon (TM) themed pieces... talk about nostalgia
Nin-ten-do, it's for breakfast now! Nin-ten-do, it's a cereal, wow!
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Nintendo Gamecube on December 03, 2003, 12:38:14 PM
It'll be Nintendo's announcement to enter the porno industry with famous characters, such as Samus, Princess Peach, and Daisy.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Strell on December 03, 2003, 02:20:31 PM
Thedoga, or whatever your name is, I already stated that it's just a guess. You can have your juvenile fun being a punk about "proving" me wrong, though.
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Rich on December 03, 2003, 05:48:51 PM
no, im sorry strell but the thing is, tet tKonga controller has already been shown in the newest EGM. Its Page 36 if your interested in checking it out for yourself. also on page 108, Game Informer has a preveiw of Donkey Konga and the controller is mentioned.
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Rich on December 03, 2003, 05:50:30 PM
no, im sorry strell but the thing is, tet tKonga controller has already been shown in the newest EGM. Its Page 36 if your interested in checking it out for yourself. also on page 108, Game Informer has a preveiw of Donkey Konga and the controller is mentioned.
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: MysticalMatt517 on December 03, 2003, 09:54:35 PM
Hmmmm.... I've not been following Nintendo for that long so I'm not in on any "hints or rumors" that may be out there. While I'm not against wild speculation, I do think that this idea could have been presented a little differently so as to be taken a little more seriously. While I HIGHLY doubt that Nintendo is going online, I can't say it would suprise me.
First, the Gamecube does already have the ability to handle online play. It's about as equiped as the Playstation was when it first came out. Granted, they didn't go as far as Microsoft and throw in a NIC card, but they did at least leave their options open. Microsoft from day one has been upfront the online gaming is a huge part of their future plans (which was not alltogether stupid of them). Therefore, while online play seems unlikely for the GameCube its still as technically possible as it was on the PlayStation.
IF Nintendo plans to stay in the console game (which I believe they will) then certainly they understand that online gaming is the future. Yet Nintendo seems like the kind of company that likes to keep their cards close and watch what everybody else does for a while. Think about it, you've got Sony and Microsoft both fighting to build up online gaming arenas. Both of them are King Kongs in their own right. Sony has the market while Microsoft has the money. If I were Nintendo I would sit back, watch them make their mistakes, and then build my own arena that trumps both of them. With that in mind we can then begin to build what an online gaming arena in the Nintendo world would look like.
First off, I think they will follow MS and build a centralized, closed system. This is what MS did right in that it provides a standard simplified experience for every game. I am an XBL member and I can tell you the experience is awesome. There are some things that you go into every game knowing how to operate. Voice chat is also amazing. You don't know how awesome it is until you frag someone and hear them cry out your name in despair 100 miles away. On the other hand, I think that they will take from Sony's model a little bit and keep pricing at a per/game level. I think that Nintendo would also learn from Sony's mistake and make broadband a requirement from the beginning while following Sony's lead in letting publishers have more control over each games online capabilities.
I dunno. It seems unlikely but I can see Nintendo doing it. They've had enough time to build up the infastructure to do it with, and I like the direction I see Nintendo going. I also think that Nintendo would be super quiet about this and then introduce it with a ton of fanfare. Then again, knowing Nintendo it could just be a cross between Pokemon & Dance Dance Revolution ;-]
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Rhoq on December 03, 2003, 11:21:25 PM
The thing is - when Nintendo spoke about this upcoming annoucement in the Spring, they said this new product would "revolutionize" the video game industry. On-line gaming has already been done, so it wouldn't be considered revolutionary. They claim that it's not a new console (although it could be the "N5", it's highly doubtful since developer kits haven't been sent out) or a handheld. I think that this is a swerve to help keep buzzing and the industry interested...with the PSP close on the horizon, the next generatin of GameBoy is the more likely candidate for the subject of this announcement.
While this might be a bit crazy, I think Nintendo has found a way to harness the power of lightning bugs to provide a cheap, stable and endless power solution for the next generation of GameBoy (yes, I'm kidding). Seriously, I am thinking something a little larger than the GBASP, with the processing ability and graphical power to play any disc from the current GameCube library. The only thing I don't see is how they could fit all of that inside a tiny case. Heat and battery life would be a huge issue.
If Nintendo is able to pull that off and beat (or at least match) the MSRP of the PSP, Nintendo will secure their place in the handheld market for many years to come. This new handheld could take advantage of 320+ GameCube titles already available at launch, making them much more appealing than the PSP - which would be building it's library from scratch. This would also fullfill the "Portable GameCube" fantasy that many people around here seem to have.
I know this sounds far-fetched, but is it, really?
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: thecubedcanuck on December 04, 2003, 06:19:44 AM
It will be a chip, that is implanted into your brain. You will play games just by thinking about them.
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: MysticalMatt517 on December 04, 2003, 06:26:47 AM
The "Portable Gamecube as the NextGen Gameboy" isn't at all far fetched. I mentioned that idea two years ago in an XBOX forum and everyone thought I was nuts. It would definately validate N's choice of the mini-dvd.
One other possible speculation about spring. It could be Mario 128... Nintendo keeps talking about how revoloutionary the gameplay will be, and how they didn't want to show it at E3 for fear of getting ripped off.
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Ian Sane on December 04, 2003, 06:35:45 AM
"The thing is - when Nintendo spoke about this upcoming annoucement in the Spring, they said this new product would 'revolutionize' the video game industry."
That doesn't necessarily mean anything. Nintendo says that almost EVERYTHING they make will "revolutionize" the industry. I believe the e-Reader was supposed to revolutionize the industry.
Good point about online already being done and thus can't be revolutionary but that doesn't completely eliminate the possibility of online being the new product. Nintendo may very well feel that their own online solution is unique and thus is revolutionary. If they've found a way to make online gaming profitable without making the consumer pay-to-play then that would be revolutionary.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: the_zombie_luke on December 04, 2003, 08:05:16 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Ian Sane<br That doesn't necessarily mean anything. Nintendo says that almost EVERYTHING they make will "revolutionize" the industry. I believe the e-Reader was supposed to revolutionize the industry.
I agree with that, like when Nintendo was hyping the connectivity bonuses in Prime and Fusion, which were disappointing to say the least. That said, I don't think Nintendo would make such a big deal about something that really is ordinary. They would get bad press after E3, and it wouldn't be worth it in the first place. The best idea is to forget out the new product and wait 'till E3. Nobody wants another Megaton debacle again.
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Anbesol on December 04, 2003, 08:08:00 AM
"""that's the dumbest thing i've heard you say since your suggestion for a games based on nightmare on elm street. nothing nintendo has ever said even remotely hints that the gamecube (and especially the gameboy advance) will ever go online in march."""
thinking that nintendo will actually hint towards something is teh dumbest thing IVE ever heard. nintendos announcements are nearly NEVER hinted at prior to the announcement. think of teh GBA SP, and the comic book art covered cube. hmmm..
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: vudu on December 04, 2003, 09:09:59 AM
true. but did nintendo ever state "we will not release a new version of the gameboy advance"? i don't believe so.
did nintendo ever state "online is not profitable and we are not interested in persuing it at the time being"? yup.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: The Omen on December 04, 2003, 09:42:00 AM
Quote true. but did nintendo ever state "we will not release a new version of the gameboy advance"? i don't believe so.
They said its NOT the next GB or console. Okay? Now, i 'm not dismissing it as a possibility, but since we're saying Nintendo said no to online, they also said no to that. They did say they wont go online until its profitable. Maybe, just maybe they've been doing work behind the scenes, and they figured out their plan. Is that impossible? Yup.
Quote The best idea is to forget out the new product and wait 'till E3. Nobody wants another Megaton debacle again.
I think most people who coime in these forums will not get out of hand because of the megaton rumor. I think we're safe to speculate all over the place, because most of us won't get duped again.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: manunited4eva22 on December 04, 2003, 10:05:33 AM
Strell no offense, but trying to trash someone for proving you wrong is in itself juvenile. As for what it is, I'm hoping wireless gba-gcn connector. Probablly not, but just a wish.
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Anbesol on December 04, 2003, 10:37:38 AM
oh god - there is absolutely NO WAY that it could POSSIBLY be another version of the GBA. oh man, i cant even believe that im hearing this. its not even been a year since the sp came out. now people are ALREADY speculating of a new gba.. wtf!?! nope, its not that, its not a new console... the internet possibility is infinitely more possible than those 2
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Post by: Rhoq on December 04, 2003, 01:52:28 PM
Quote Originally posted by: manunited4eva22 I'm hoping wireless gba-gcn connector. Probablly not, but just a wish.
Nintendo has already announced the wireless connector. I read about it a few months ago in the GBA section of IGN. PGC might have a news article about it in the archives as well.
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Post by: the_zombie_luke on December 04, 2003, 03:57:39 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Rhoq
Quote Originally posted by: manunited4eva22 I'm hoping wireless gba-gcn connector. Probablly not, but just a wish.
Nintendo has already announced the wireless connector. I read about it a few months ago in the GBA section of IGN. PGC might have a news article about it in the archives as well.
There are making wireless connectors for GBA to GBA. He's talking about making the GCN to GBA cord wireless.
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Anbesol on December 04, 2003, 04:44:21 PM
uhm, i think he knows that. besides, what kind of a big deal would that be? hell, thats hardly an announcement. thats one of those "meh, cool, i dont really care" things.
i think nintendo will announce that they have 1,000 gun-satelites orbitting this planet, and any country that does not bend to their rule shall face the wrath. yes, nintendo will soon announce world domination.
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Post by: the_zombie_luke on December 04, 2003, 04:56:51 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Anbesol i think nintendo will announce that they have 1,000 gun-satelites orbitting this planet, and any country that does not bend to their rule shall face the wrath. yes, nintendo will soon announce world domination.
That wouldn't new, but it sure would be exciting!
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Post by: KDR_11k on December 05, 2003, 05:07:36 AM
Yeah, new would be if they planned to replace mankind with mushroom people...
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Post by: Bill Aurion on December 05, 2003, 05:09:04 AM
Is that really a bad thing?...
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: vudu on December 05, 2003, 05:49:49 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Anbesol oh god - there is absolutely NO WAY that it could POSSIBLY be another version of the GBA. oh man, i cant even believe that im hearing this. its not even been a year since the sp came out. now people are ALREADY speculating of a new gba.. wtf!?! nope, its not that, its not a new console... the internet possibility is infinitely more possible than those 2
no one here said it would be a new console. in fact, i believe the omen said the exact opposite. i'd argue more, but considering you were banned last night, it would be rather pointless.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 05, 2003, 01:20:44 PM
I hope it's a "Tickle-Me-Daisy" or "Tickle-Me-Toadette." So cute!
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Post by: Berny on December 05, 2003, 01:54:26 PM
Why is it both of them are female? I think that encourages fondling and r@pe. Not that tickle me Mario would be any cleaner. Something like a Toad-Furby would be cool though.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Rhoq on December 05, 2003, 02:52:55 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Berny Why is it both of them are female? I think that encourages fondling and r@pe.
I think that's the point, LOL
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Post by: KDR_11k on December 05, 2003, 08:16:09 PM
Berny: Hello? Since when was "promoting rape" a reason for the japanese not to release something?
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Post by: Smadte on December 05, 2003, 08:36:06 PM
Geeze, you guys! I can't believe you all are debating over this. It's already been revealed: Link
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: The Omen on December 10, 2003, 10:19:47 AM
Now with this AOL 'service being confirmed, i feel its almost certainly an online strategy.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: the_zombie_luke on December 10, 2003, 03:15:35 PM
Now your "crazy" idea is becoming reality. I hope it is online.
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: manunited4eva22 on December 10, 2003, 03:54:30 PM
AOL and online strategy should never be mentioned in the same breath.
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Post by: GunstarSilver on December 10, 2003, 03:54:39 PM
Nintendo keep saying they don't care about online, that it ain't the way to go, along with superior graphics and more complicated games mechanics. It says it's making games that are accessable to everyone that is the way to go. Thing is recently they did mention that the new product was going to be "transcendant" or some other obscure vague word. Since the iQue was released I think their mystery item is some kind of Cross maybe between the iQue and Gamecube. I dunno but that's my 2 cents.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: the_zombie_luke on December 10, 2003, 04:08:21 PM
They said their new product is "heterogeneous" and I have no clue what they mean by that.
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Mario on December 10, 2003, 10:29:24 PM
I will be disappointed if this new product turns out to be something to do with online gaming. Unless its really awesome, which it probably will be, since its Nintendo.
Im going to take another wild guess. It will be a controller/gaming device that you can take anywhere, all you need is the controller. When you 'turn on' the controller, a screen appears out of nowhere, like a hologram in the air in front of you, and that's the 'screen' you use to play games on. You insert mini-cds, or cartridges (games) in a slot at the top, or at the back of the 'controller/console'. It plays GBA games, GC games, and maybe games of a new type designed specifically for that device.
Just think how cool it would be when your in class, the teacher wanders out of the room, and everyone pulls out a controller from their pocket and screens appear out of nowhere, and you all start playing Nintendo games. Maybe even wireless multiplayer gaming could be incorporated into it somehow, wow my head just exploded with possibilities.
Would that be cool?
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Ocarina Blue on December 11, 2003, 12:46:30 AM
Quote Originally posted by: the_zombie_luke They said their new product is "heterogeneous" and I have no clue what they mean by that.
That means it originates from something different, I think. Different from what though? Can you remember what context it was in?
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: donkeythong on December 11, 2003, 12:53:52 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Mario I will be disappointed if this new product turns out to be something to do with online gaming. Unless its really awesome, which it probably will be, since its Nintendo.
Im going to take another wild guess. It will be a controller/gaming device that you can take anywhere, all you need is the controller. When you 'turn on' the controller, a screen appears out of nowhere, like a hologram in the air in front of you, and that's the 'screen' you use to play games on. You insert mini-cds, or cartridges (games) in a slot at the top, or at the back of the 'controller/console'. It plays GBA games, GC games, and maybe games of a new type designed specifically for that device.
Just think how cool it would be when your in class, the teacher wanders out of the room, and everyone pulls out a controller from their pocket and screens appear out of nowhere, and you all start playing Nintendo games. Maybe even wireless multiplayer gaming could be incorporated into it somehow, wow my head just exploded with possibilities.
Would that be cool?
If you go to the US patent office website and search Nintendo. It'll return a some searches and if you scroll down to the second from bottom return on page 1 you'll see in July this year they patented Holographic screen production technology
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: the_zombie_luke on December 11, 2003, 08:21:17 AM
Are you sure about that? That would be awesome.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: The Omen on December 11, 2003, 10:09:00 AM
Quote If you go to the US patent office website and search Nintendo. It'll return a some searches and if you scroll down to the second from bottom return on page 1 you'll see in July this year they patented Holographic screen production technology
That is cool, except that they have patented about 1000 things just so nobody else does it first.
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: KDR_11k on December 12, 2003, 06:00:07 AM
Yeah, like a controller with customzable button positions...
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: jasonditz on December 12, 2003, 11:14:48 AM
Quote Originally posted by: The Omen
Quote If you go to the US patent office website and search Nintendo. It'll return a some searches and if you scroll down to the second from bottom return on page 1 you'll see in July this year they patented Holographic screen production technology
That is cool, except that they have patented about 1000 things just so nobody else does it first.
Not technologically feasible at this time.
The screen is all well and good but calculating holographic images in real time would take a lot more processing power than you're likely to muster by the next generation... let alone spring.
Back when I did my thesis it was on computer generated holography... at the time I figured you'd need something in the multi-teraflops range to make it feasible... and that was monochrome.
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Post by: snakel29 on December 15, 2003, 03:16:23 PM
i saw this topic and went searching for information on this big E3 announcment thing...i found something very interesting go to the link below...
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Mario on December 15, 2003, 03:31:11 PM
This is very similar to what i have in mind, except replace the folding screen with a hologram.
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Berny on December 15, 2003, 04:00:31 PM
Woah. That looks........where did you get that, Mario. That's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: the_zombie_luke on December 15, 2003, 08:19:08 PM
Too bad that GCN-GBA might never exist. I hope Nintendo does make a system like that one day.
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Joey on December 16, 2003, 08:28:33 AM
Quote I saw this topic and went searching for information on this big E3 announcment thing...i found something very interesting go to the link below...
you will find it interesting
tell me what you think!!! interesting E3 announcement info!!! click here
I am not sure if you know but that article came from May of last year and was about last years E3.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: MysticGohan24 on December 16, 2003, 10:38:10 AM
Berny, second in command of the dragon squad. Responsible for breading and taking care of dragons
Hey berny was that on purpose? the breading part? lol if you mean something else than it's spelled Breeding not breading
Anyway, that pic looks awesome of the Game boy Enhance, lol that would rule.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: vudu on December 16, 2003, 10:49:56 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Berny Woah. That looks........where did you get that, Mario. That's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Mario on December 16, 2003, 11:48:19 AM
Actually i got it from the IGN Boards before that thread was even started
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Berny on December 16, 2003, 12:51:52 PM
Ooooo...vudu just got BUUURRRRNNNNNED. lol Well regardless, it looks really cool.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: PaLaDiN on December 16, 2003, 10:08:24 PM
Why are people bringing up Megaton? This isn't Megaton. Why? Because Nintendo never commented on the Megaton.
This rumor was started by Nintendo, if I'm not mistaken... I can't remember the last time that happened. What are you guys talking about? I mean look at this, people, Nintendo, king of secrecy, hyping up something it hasn't released yet? Since when has Nintendo ever thrown us a bone?
It's also definitely not gonna be the Konga controllers. Why? Simple reason... if it was, they'd have hyped it in Japan too before it was released... but they didn't.
This is just a wild guess, but the "heterogeneous" thing has me thinking it's PC-GC connectivity. Think about it. Hard drive, internet, firmware patches and online multiplayer... all in one fell swoop.
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Post by: KDR_11k on December 17, 2003, 01:33:36 AM
Heterogenous means consisting of different parts (as opposed to homogenous meaning similar parts). But, a customizable controller would also be "heterogenous" since you can disassemble it (note: I doubt it is a customizable controller, but it really sounds like a possibility).
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Post by: The Omen on December 17, 2003, 09:28:58 AM
Quote This is just a wild guess, but the "heterogeneous" thing has me thinking it's PC-GC connectivity. Think about it. Hard drive, internet, firmware patches and online multiplayer... all in one fell swoop.
That would play into the Apple/Nintendo rumor thats being thrown around.
Title: RE: I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: Mario on December 17, 2003, 12:08:41 PM
Maybe it's a Nintendo console that plays all Nintendo games? Like NES, SNES, N64, Gameboy, GameCube and whatever else all on the same console. They could call it, "The Nintendo".
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Post by: Perfect Cell on December 17, 2003, 05:31:27 PM
Well the online theory has more presedence, with the fact that Splinter Cell will be online on the GCN.... when Ubi Soft didnt give XIII online stuff...
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Post by: Bill Aurion on December 17, 2003, 05:53:17 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Mario Maybe it's a Nintendo console that plays all Nintendo games? Like NES, SNES, N64, Gameboy, GameCube and whatever else all on the same console. They could call it, "The Nintendo".
Do you have any idea how big that thing would be? O_o
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Post by: KDR_11k on December 18, 2003, 06:30:02 AM
Oh, the slots would take up some space, but the non-GC consoles could be compressed into one chip each.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: The Omen on December 25, 2003, 08:43:01 AM
Now with the new Ghosts and Goblins online, Splinter Cell 2 and EA considering the sports for online in next seasons incarnations, there is surely something to this online theory. Whether or not its this announcement, i dont know. But every week there is something being revealed , from AOL ladder service to these online games.
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: yellowfellow on December 25, 2003, 10:04:00 AM
it's probably something akin to the e-reader
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Post by: ThePerm on December 25, 2003, 05:53:01 PM
i know what it is...its somethign relating to a nintendo console....
Title: RE:I know what the new 'product' in Spring is
Post by: norebonomis on December 26, 2003, 05:13:17 PM
do you guys remember the n64DD? is it entirely inconvievable that since it was never released in the usa and alltogether flopped, that perhaps nintendo has revised their original vision and plan to re-release it for the gamecube? not that i actually believe nintendo with give us anything that satisfying. i wouldn't be surprized if it is a damn waffle iron.........
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Post by: norebonomis on December 26, 2003, 05:39:00 PM
after posting my last message and after speculating on a re-release of the failed N64DD, i went to the US Patent Office website and searched for nintendo, although there are 885 patents filed by nintendo i came across this patent where if you look in the lower right hand corner of the image you will see "Mass Storage Access Device" attached to the gamecube archetechture, this patent was filed in august 2003. . there is also this patent filed in july of 2003 that describes an add on device that would combine a number of features including mass storage and internet connectivity around the same time that nintendo announced their new innovative product. i don't know if i am getting too excited and i welcome any experts critisism...
i am also posting this message in the Fast Forward section
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Post by: Rob91883 on December 26, 2003, 10:42:25 PM
Nintendo themed McDonald's Restaurants,........hey it can happen!
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Post by: The Omen on December 27, 2003, 04:14:34 AM
Maybe i'm just too gun shy, and despite my online theory, i feel like this may be something that i wont end up giving a sh!t about. But how did this start? Was it from Nintendo, or somebody speculating? If this announcement is straight from Iwata, then i feel its very unlike Nintendo to do this unless it was something big. Oh well, we'll find out in a few short months...