Post by: Ocarina_Jedi on November 30, 2003, 11:54:52 AM
The thing I wanna know is, has anyone heard anything about it being on any other systems? I had heard that it was a PS2 exclusive, but a game that already has such an established fanbase should be available on each system.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on November 30, 2003, 12:06:24 PM
But at the moment, the closest you'll get to a Transformers game on GameCube is Hudson's upcoming fighter with Optimus Prime in it.
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 30, 2003, 12:10:00 PM
Post by: Ocarina_Jedi on December 19, 2003, 12:45:59 PM
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Nope, it's still exclusive to the PlayStation 2. Hopefully they'll port it over after its release.
But at the moment, the closest you'll get to a Transformers game on GameCube is Hudson's upcoming fighter with Optimus Prime in it.
Which fighter were you referring to?
Post by: Rhoq on December 19, 2003, 01:43:08 PM
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Post by: Rob91883 on December 19, 2003, 03:10:11 PM
But is had a great story!!
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Post by: Ocarina_Jedi on December 20, 2003, 11:40:06 AM
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Post by: ThePerm on December 20, 2003, 12:10:48 PM
also armada has gotten alot better in plot...i still really hate that Mexican kid...like he's like an insult to Mexicans...
I'm not a Mexican..but my friends are and we all find him really damned annoying. Damn you Carlos!
Post by: ThePerm on February 15, 2006, 12:46:37 PM
Post by: Mr Bloober on February 15, 2006, 03:35:02 PM
And my gut feeling tells me that this isn't coming to the Gamecube ever. I wonder why...
Post by: MysticGohan on February 15, 2006, 04:06:05 PM
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lol transformers is a japanese import...it kinda always was animé though i think Marvel made a series too.
also armada has gotten alot better in plot...i still really hate that Mexican kid...like he's like an insult to Mexicans...
I'm not a Mexican..but my friends are and we all find him really damned annoying. Damn you Carlos!
eh? in what way?
Transformers was AMERICAN!! The idea of the series came from Japan with various toys that could transform into other object, hence the name
Transformers!
But the animation originated in U.S. hehe, G1 and G2, the Japanese took the idea and ran with it after G2
Post by: Nephilim on February 15, 2006, 06:01:16 PM
they shouldnt be battling in out in space...
Post by: MysticGohan on February 15, 2006, 06:54:25 PM
Post by: Terranigma Freak on February 16, 2006, 03:28:32 AM
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Then Beast Wars came along, and though it was different, it was cool. (It was kinda cheap though; Optimus Prime became Optimus Primal)
Did you even watch the friggin' show? If you did, you'd know that Primal is a DESCENDANT of the original Optimus Prime. They're 2 different characters. And from what I heard, Armada sucks like hell. Actually, both Armada and Energon sucked like hell.
Post by: Rhoq on February 16, 2006, 09:08:53 AM
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Did you even watch the friggin' show? If you did, you'd know that Primal is a DESCENDANT of the original Optimus Prime. They're 2 different characters. And from what I heard, Armada sucks like hell. Actually, both Armada and Energon sucked like hell.
Yep. "Optimus Primal" chose his name in honor of the legendary Autobot leader "Optimus Prime".
I tried watching "Armada" when it first premiered on the Cartoon Network. Let's just say that I'm glad that I own all 5 boxsets of the Original series that Rhino released a few years ago. Armada took way too many liberties with the mythology and it was almost as awful as the FoxKids series "Transformers: Robots In Disguise". I haven't bothered to check-out "Energon" as I assume it's pretty much on par with "Robots In Disguise" and "Armada".
Post by: JonLeung on February 16, 2006, 09:26:08 AM
QuoteDon't forget, Beast Wars and Beast Machines (the shows) are Canadian!
Transformers was AMERICAN!! The idea of the series came from Japan with various toys that could transform into other object, hence the name
Transformers!
But the animation originated in U.S. hehe, G1 and G2, the Japanese took the idea and ran with it after G2
But here in Canada, they supposedly don't like the word "Wars" in animated shows. Therefore, "Beast Wars" became "Beasties", and another one of Mainframe's shows, "War Planets", became "Shadow Raiders". Yeah, I don't get it either. Peace-loving Canadians, we are.
Then Mainframe's best show, Reboot (which had purple "Game Cubes", and the first of two direct-to-TV movies was shown on the GameCube's launch day), was apparently getting too violent for ABC (in America) to show on Saturday mornings. Go figure.
Post by: Rhoq on February 16, 2006, 09:45:08 AM
Post by: animecyberrat on February 16, 2006, 11:01:27 AM
The first cartoon, was developed by Marvel and had a comic book tie in. The comic actualy came first though and theres a serious split ammong transformers fans over which is offical cannon. Beast Wars basicaly took story elemnts from both the cartoon and Comic so they really made tings more confusing.
The reason the Transformers Armada game never came to GC and still likely wont, is because Takara don't make games for GC and they control everything Tf related.
G1 was what i grew up on and will always be the best in my mind, BW was pretty good only cuz it had good animationa nd the story tried to fit in with G1 a lot, but there were inconsistancies, like how Starscrams Ghost showed up in BW yet Unicron restored him to life in the G1 cartoon rigth near the end. So he would still be alive when BW took place. Also BW tookplace in the PAST so his ghost still wouldn't be around because he was still alive in that time frame, go figure. Bm was garbage though it took RID to clear thinsg up and get the major fans back and make TFs popular again.
Post by: JonLeung on February 16, 2006, 11:10:32 AM
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The reason the Transformers Armada game never came to GC and still likely wont, is because Takara don't make games for GC and they control everything Tf related.
What about that Konami/Hudson/Takara crossover game?
You know, DreamMix TV World Fighters or whatever it's called? That was on the GameCube in Japan.
Bomberman vs. Solid Snake vs. Optimus Prime and many other franchise characters? Megatron was in it too.
Post by: ruby_onix on February 16, 2006, 01:47:00 PM
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Did you even watch the friggin' show? If you did, you'd know that Primal is a DESCENDANT of the original Optimus Prime. They're 2 different characters. And from what I heard, Armada sucks like hell. Actually, both Armada and Energon sucked like hell.
Yep. "Optimus Primal" chose his name in honor of the legendary Autobot leader "Optimus Prime".
Actually, "Optimus Primal" became his name after his self-image updated to include his animal form. That's why he and his crew had to introduce themselves to each other after they emerged from the ship. They probably don't even really know who they were or what they were like before the change. It's like how when you dream of the past, you see yourself as your current self, not as the you that was present at that time.
But yeah, he's still an entirely different Bot than the original Optimus Prime. In Beast Wars, Megatron (named after Megatron) once reffered to Primal as an "Optimus unit" which suggests that there were a lot more Transformers like them on the Beast Wars-era Cybertron, probably wherever a heroic leader was needed, like Captaining ships and whatnot. But Primal was the only one who got stuck on that planet with Megatron. Which of course, makes Beast Machines all the more pathetic.
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But here in Canada, they supposedly don't like the word "Wars" in animated shows. Therefore, "Beast Wars" became "Beasties", and another one of Mainframe's shows, "War Planets", became "Shadow Raiders". Yeah, I don't get it either. Peace-loving Canadians, we are.
It's because YTV and Mainframe are/were really close. YTV supported Mainframe before they were even Mainframe. YTV just "asked" about toning down the "Wars" bit, and Mainframe was happy to oblige.
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The first cartoon, was developed by Marvel and had a comic book tie in. The comic actualy came first though and theres a serious split ammong transformers fans over which is offical cannon.
Both are wrong. The toys are cannon. The cartoons and the comics are seperate continuities which borrow from each other.
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Beast Wars basicaly took story elemnts from both the cartoon and Comic so they really made tings more confusing.
At first they were trying to make it in a "bubble" universe, which could be the sequel to any version, but wasn't specific enough to nail down, but then it became clear enough to be a third contrinuity, borrowing from the other two.
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G1 was what i grew up on and will always be the best in my mind, BW was pretty good only cuz it had good animationa nd the story tried to fit in with G1 a lot, but there were inconsistancies, like how Starscrams Ghost showed up in BW yet Unicron restored him to life in the G1 cartoon rigth near the end. So he would still be alive when BW took place.
He could've still died again in the supposedly vast span of time between G2 and the Beast Wars era. Plus a second trip to ghost form would've made it very clear that there was something odd about his spark.
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Also BW tookplace in the PAST so his ghost still wouldn't be around because he was still alive in that time frame, go figure.
He was a ghost in the Beast Wars era, and he passed through the transwarp tunnel which took him to prehistoric Earth in the same way the Maximal and Predacon ships did.
Post by: animecyberrat on February 16, 2006, 07:42:35 PM
Same deal with how 2K sports stopped supporting GC and they had plenty of games on it before they decided to stop making them. Of course they are different in that they changed their mind again and are making a new GC game.
Getting back to Tfs, Ruby, that’s YOUR take on what is official cannon. AS far as Hasbro is concerned, the "official cannon" is everything that is Officially licensed, which not only includes Marvel comics/cartoon and Tech Specs, but also included the recent Dream Wave comic/cartoons and tech Specs. As far as they are concerned Transformers is one massive toyline that gets sublines every two to three years.
Some people consider the cartoon cannon, others the comics others the toys. Me I always went with a mix of all three, I took elements form the Tv show, comics and Tech Specs when deciding what story lines to follow. I used to have a massive TF website with huge databases and pictures and all kids of neat stuff, Im a bigger Tf fan than video game fan so I certainly try and keep up with what’s going on in the world of Transformers. not that that means I know more than you but thought I would share that to give bg of where I am coming from.
I personally liked the DV G1 comics but never considered them official cannon since they had to change so much of what came before to fit in with what was going on recently, like making Megatron (G1 Megatron) into a Tank when in G1 he was a gun. And having Grimlock on Cybertron before the crash on earth when he was created on earth after they were revived, things like that that I didn’t take seriously.
Your points about Starscream I have heard before on TF forums, but the flaw with that logic is Starscream never said anything about going through the transwarp. Also he described how he died in the War against Unicron in BW, which was BEFORE Unicron reincarnated him. See Episode Ghost in the Machine Season 3 Transformers original series. they only way to stretch it is if you take the comics approach with the alternate universe theory, which is how they explained Galvatrons existence while Megatron still was alive.
But I love discussion of Tfs and welcome any relevant discussion that doesn’t lead to flame wars or being banned from forums.
Post by: ruby_onix on February 16, 2006, 10:59:38 PM
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Your points about Starscream I have heard before on TF forums, but the flaw with that logic is Starscream never said anything about going through the transwarp. Also he described how he died in the War against Unicron in BW, which was BEFORE Unicron reincarnated him.
I think they visibly showed Starscream's spark come through the Transwarp corridor at the start of the episode, and he went back through it in the end. But it's been a while since I've seen that episode.
I'm pretty sure Starscream was flat-out lying about himself to the Predacons, in order to command their loyalty (he didn't sacrifice himself in an attempt to save Galvatron and the Decepticons from Unicron, he was killed by Galvatron for pushing the wounded Megatron out of Astrotrain in space and leaving him to die). And when Black Arachnia (the only one who had studied that chapter of history) finally ratted him out on it, they all turned on him.
Post by: animecyberrat on February 17, 2006, 08:20:11 AM
I alwasy wondered about that though because after g1 Starscream sorta faded nto obsucrity, refering to Japanese cartoons, he just disappeared and was never heard from until that BW episode.
But again I forget how he died in the comics so I shoud go back and re-read those because its been forever. I wanna knwo if they were barrowing from both for that episode. Wasn't Simon Furman writting for BW by that time?
Post by: couchmonkey on February 17, 2006, 12:44:53 PM
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Post by: ruby_onix on February 23, 2006, 01:54:31 PM
At the end of Season 2, Bob got shot into the Web by MegaByte, leaving only Enzo (now a rookie Guardian) and the others to take care of Mainframe.
After getting kicked around for a while, Enzo (along with Andraia and Frisket) got trapped in the Net in Season 3. After growing into a majorly cool badass renegade (Andraia grew into a hot babe), Enzo made his way over to the Web, rescued Bob, made his way back to Mainframe, kicked MegaByte's butt, and MegaByte got trapped in the Web like Bob was.
Then in the first half of Season 4 (season 4 is made of two movies), Glitch-Bob led Mainframe in a battle against the Guardians, who had all been corrupted by a super-virus named Daemon, and Mainframe eventually won thanks to Hexadecimal.
In the second half of Season 4, the Surfer found another Bob in the Web, and while Mainframe was trying to figure out which one was the real one and which one was the copy, MegaByte came back, even stronger than before, took over the Principal office, and said that he was tired of playing games and now he just wanted to hunt down and kill everyone in Mainframe. End of Season 4.
There is no Season 5, and there likely will never be one.
Post by: animecyberrat on February 24, 2006, 09:22:38 AM
