Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: PIAC on November 26, 2003, 08:36:20 AM
Title: GOTY Contenders [b]DISCUSSION[/b]
Post by: PIAC on November 26, 2003, 08:36:20 AM
i.e. no one word posts, i don't want this locked, also to keep this open don't flame other peoples choices, just select a game you consider GOTY and back it up with a reason.
F-Zero GX
wow. just wow. this game is probably the most pollished game i have seen in a LONG time, the fact that Amusement Vision some how got 30 detailed cars in detailed courses all running at 60FPS at blistering speeds is a technological achievement, not only that it has perfectly ballenced AI, where if you don't win a race you can recover from that in subsiquent races. also the music is superb, argh look at the time, i have to goto work :\, so i guess i'll be shorter than i planned
F-Zero GX goty? i surely hope so.
Title: RE:GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: Fish on November 26, 2003, 08:49:15 AM
Only GC games or also other platforms?
Eitherway, my choise is Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker, because quite simply there is nothing I don't like about this game, I even enjoy sailing, which seems to be disliked by many. Only minus I really could give it is that I'm such a wuss and I am afraid of sea(Nothing like I don't go on cruises or stuff, it just the monsters man, the monsters ), I just keep hoping I won't get attacked by those large octos, and everytime that happens I start yelling like a little girl. *sniff* Also I think the story is awesome and really enjoy dungeons and boss battles, just wish they wouldn't have cutten away those two dungeons.
Runner up is Metroid Prime(Was released this year in PAL)
Title: RE: GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: vudu on November 26, 2003, 08:56:43 AM
you should consider changing the title of the thread. i had to read your entire post and think for about 30 seconds before i realized you meant game of the year. also, do you mean on all systems, or only the gamecube?
and i have to say i give the honors to wind waker. hands down it was the most fun i had playing a game all year. the music was good, visuals were good, and all the other stuff that's nice but not required. the only thing that's required is to have fun, and wind waker was definitely where it's at. the lack of dungeons didn't both me one bit, as i've always enjoyed trotting around town more than fighting enemies, anyway. i felt empathy for the characters and i wanted to see the two lovers hook up (not like that, perv), i wanted to see the mail get delivered, and i wanted to shoot tingle in the face for charging me so damn much to decipher a map. i haven't cared so much for npc's since majora's mask.
Title: RE: GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: Berny on November 26, 2003, 09:02:04 AM
OH! Game of the Year... DUH! I feel dumb. I'm not good with obscure acronyms found on the internet. jk lol WW rox.
Ok, well, Fish, I concur. That was a b-e-a-utiful game. My favorite ever.
Title: RE: GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: Ian Sane on November 26, 2003, 09:17:05 AM
Zelda seems like a good candidate for GOTY. It's not the best Zelda game ever made but it's still incredible and one of the best games on the system. I can't really think of anything else Nintendo has released this year for the Cube that matches up to it. Mario Kart and F-Zero are good but are very similar to their N64 equivalents so I wouldn't give the nod to them.
On the third party front Skies of Arcadia Legends, Splinter Cell, Ikaruga, Soul Calibur II and Viewtiful Joe are potential candidates. However since Skies and Splinter Cell are ports I'm reluctant to give them the nod over an original title. Soul Calibur II is good but again it's basically just more Soul Calibur so again I want to honour something more original. Ikaruga is technically a Dreamcast port but since it was never released in North America I'll consider it a new game and thus a high contender. I've haven't played VJ yet unfortunately so I can't really discuss it. Hopefully I'll get it before the end of the year.
Actually a lot of what I considered to be potential GOTY candidates at E3 have been delayed until next year. I was picking titles like FF: Crystal Chronicles and Pikmin 2 as potentials.
This year was more of the year of the GBA in my opinion. Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire, Fire Emblem, Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow, Warioware, Mario & Luigi, and FFTA are all worth candidates not just for GBA GOTY but overall Game of the Year. Of course Super Mario Bros 3 will likely win despite being a 13 year old game and thus should be excluded in my opinion. The 1990 GOTY should not also be the 2003 GOTY. If you pick SMB3 than Ocarina of Time is the best Cube game of 2003.
Here's my short and sweet picks.
Gamecube: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker GBA: Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Title: RE: GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: KDR_11k on November 26, 2003, 11:04:17 AM
If I had to bet money I'd say the award will go to either WW or GTA3 (I don't differentiate between GTA3 and GTAVC). GTA3 seems more likely despite being a mediocre game, since it is popular like hell. The Best Cube Game will go to Wind Waker, again due to popularity. I'd like to see the award go to VJ, but I doubt the jury would choose a minor third-party game instead of a huge first-party one.
Title: RE:GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 26, 2003, 11:34:35 AM
Wind Waker or Mario & Luigi...Nothing else comes close...
(except maybe PoP, but I personally dislike it...)
Title: RE: GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: Berny on November 26, 2003, 11:53:34 AM
Yeah, POP really doesn't appeal to me. By the way, is this game of the year on GCN or over all consoles? If its over all of them I change my vote to Wind Waker.
Title: RE:GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: WesDawg on November 26, 2003, 12:06:11 PM
I know I've read that the missing two dungeons quote was a misquote of sorts. I think they were cut because they weren't good, not because Nintendo didn't have time. It was a matter of putting out a great game or a good one. Look into it before you spread it much more. Didn't Vice City win last year too? I don't think its in contention this year.
My vote for GC GOTY goes to Viewtiful Joe and Overall GOTY goes to WW. It'll probably go to Prince of Persia or KOTOR or something though. I'm getting kinda cynical, but I'm just pretty sure that the Cube, despite its sales surge, will get over looked this year.
Title: RE: GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: Berny on November 26, 2003, 12:15:40 PM
Vice City was last year? Yes, that's one stupid game that can't beat WW this year but probably would have because people are stupid. And Halo 2 doesnt come out this year...at least I don't think it does.
Title: RE: GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: Grey Ninja on November 26, 2003, 01:41:15 PM
Wind Waker. Game of the Century.
Title: RE:GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: nolimit19 on November 26, 2003, 01:43:02 PM
what the hell is POP....either way my vote goes to zelda. however i didnt play a whole lot of games this year....
Title: RE:GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: mouse_clicker on November 26, 2003, 01:44:27 PM
Nintendo has really been on the upbeat releasing some great games this year, while Sony and MS themselves haven't. Obviously Wind Waker is the biggest contender, and I think it'll face it's biggest competition from thrid parties, namely Ubi Soft, who has been releasing some really great games lately.
Title: RE:GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: ib2kool4u912 on November 26, 2003, 02:01:08 PM
Quote Originally posted by: nolimit19 what the hell is POP
Pop is Prince of Persia: Sands of Time
Title: RE: GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: manunited4eva22 on November 26, 2003, 02:54:09 PM
Mario Kart is my personal pick, but I'm an oddball.
Title: RE:GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: cubist on November 26, 2003, 03:33:05 PM
I am a really big fan of the Zelda series. Wind Waker was definitely an incredible evolution to the series with the emotion that was added by the cel-shaded graphics; however, I think my choice for Game of the Year is definitely going to be with the outstanding "Prince of Persia: Sands of Time". While Wind Waker was evolutionary, Prince of Persia was revolutionary. I haven't played anything else that comes close to this game. I was hooked at E3 and I'm definitely hooked now. Also, for you Wind Waker fans, you should try "Beyond Good and Evil". I think Ubi Soft is on a roll. We'll see how "XIII" turns out.
Title: RE: GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: BiLdItUp1 on November 26, 2003, 04:36:12 PM
Are these the same people that gave Game of the Show to MGS2 and Doom3 even though they were still just reels? Cuz if they are...
Title: RE:GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: mouse_clicker on November 26, 2003, 06:11:53 PM
What was revolutionary about Prince of Persia? Just curious.
Title: RE: GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: PIAC on November 26, 2003, 06:22:43 PM
i thought Metroid Prime won GOTY last year, also please guys, don't do small posts, I would really rather this not get locked as a poll, because that wasn't my aim, also yeah go nuts all systems included, i almost posted this in general chat, but the volume of traffic wouldn't have been as high and i also figured that most would chose gamecube games ^_^ bias much?
Title: RE: GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: BlkPaladin on November 26, 2003, 08:15:38 PM
No Battlefield 1914 won the GOTY.
Title: RE: GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: Deguello on November 26, 2003, 09:20:10 PM
Mario and Luigi should most deifinitely be considered for Game of the Year. If more RPG's were like this, I'd play them more often, and probably wouldn't be so bitter toward them in general when I see one get egregiously high ranks from mags and sites (it's almost as if they are exempt from the review criteria.) The game is totally skill-based. Turn-based yes, but you can play through every dungeon and every (non-random) fight without receiving damage, if your reflexes are good enough. If you lose, it is your own fault, not some random dice-throw. You don't even have to level up if you don't want to. It makes it easier, but you can defeat every boss in the game at level 1. And the special attacks do more damage the better you get at performing them, and that is good game design. The unfortunate fact is this game will probably not be considered based on the fact that it didn't receive a lot of hype from magazines, and nobody considers the GBA a serious force.
For the GC, I am really torn between Wind Waker, Mario Kart, and F-Zero. F-Zero is for all consideration perfect. The gameplay is Fast and Furious(tm), the control is fantastic, and the track designs are insanely genius. With loads of unlockables, Arcade connectivity, Multiplayer, Online competition (Internet scoreboard, which is, for all intent and purpose, an online mode) it is hard to resist. It may be difficult, but it is not impossible.
MArio Kart is downright fun. I don't care what IGN says. I don't care what the haters say. It's fun. It's like a slower F-Zero GX with insane weapons and frantic action. And I have never seen a videogame so animated. Nothing in the game ever stops moving, the framerate never takes a dive. The Multiplayer is godly, Shine Theif on Tilt-a-Kart is a lovable chaos. Welcome addition, and good on ya Nintendo.
And of course, Wind Waker, which I think suffers in the mainstream's eye because it was released so early in the year, and those (people that would call Zelda something similar but starting with a "C") jerks, but the game remains fantastic to today. It is a beautiful work of art, with cool dungeons, WAY cool boss battles, and an enormous expansive world to explore and find things in at your leisure. "Great" is insufficient for this game.
What I think the GOTY is immaterial, but if I had to choose one or be dumped in pirahna-fill acid, I'd choose Wind Waker. I love it, it's so baaad.
Of course, I turned down many games when I thought of my picks, but are no less fantastic. Viewtiful Joe, Soul Calibur 2, FFTA, Fire Emblem, Wario ware and Advance Wars 2 all are superbly stellar titels which everybody can pick up and enjoy for the start. Sorry for the long post, heh.
Title: RE:GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: vudu on November 27, 2003, 04:51:58 PM
Quote Originally posted by: WesDawg My vote for GC GOTY goes to Viewtiful Joe and Overall GOTY goes to WW.
wha?? so your vote for gamecube game of the year is viewtiful joe, but your vote for overall game of the year is wind waker, which is a gamecube exclusive? that makes about as much sense as last year when splinter cell won overall game of the year, but wasn't even nominated for console game of the year.
Title: RE: GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: Ian Sane on November 28, 2003, 05:59:31 AM
"that makes about as much sense as last year when splinter cell won overall game of the year, but wasn't even nominated for console game of the year."
I believe it was the other way around. Splinter Cell won console game of the year and wasn't nominated for overall game. Actually if you follow the official awards the big hyped Xbox game of each year of the Xbox's existance has won the award (Halo, Splinter Cell) both times beating critical favourites (GTA3, Metroid Prime). Considering how things have gone the last two years odds are another hyped Xbox game will win again. So I figure that would be Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic.
Title: RE: GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: thecubedcanuck on November 28, 2003, 06:18:29 AM
"So I figure that would be Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic."
That is very good game fwiw.
As for GOTY, in all honesty, nothing has overly impressed me this year, with the execption of SSX3. It gets my vote. KOTOR was really good, but not GOTY worthy, Wind Waker was far to boring, MK- DD is far to much an N64 copy and nothing on the PS2 jumps out at all.
Oh well.
On a side note, I read someone saying that True Crime was better than Vice City, I think that is the funniest statement of the year. Zombies and a frame rate that drops to 1fps at times, yeah right.
Currently playing SSX3, GTA vice city, Madden 2004 and Project Gotham racing 2
Title: RE:GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on November 28, 2003, 07:51:13 PM
Quote Originally posted by: thecubedcanuck MK- DD is far to much an N64 copy
lol except they changed it entirely lol
Of course, the year isn't even over yet (hey here comes R: Racing Evolution), but I think I'll take DDR Extreme as my any-system pick (it added a TON of spectacular songs, introduced the 'Marvelous' step, and resurrected 'nonstop' mode, as well as kept Oni mode), and probably Mario Kart (I gots a review in a day or two) or Ikaruga as my GC pick. If Ikaruga counts, that is.
Title: RE:GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: Ymeegod on November 29, 2003, 03:30:42 AM
It's going be a toss-up between SW Knight of the Old Republic and Wind Waker for me.
Title: RE: GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: Smashman on November 29, 2003, 03:36:06 AM
Several candidates for 2003
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker F-Zero GX Viewtiful Joe Soul Calibur 2 Prince of Persia: Sands of Time
Just a few.
Title: RE: GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: thecubedcanuck on November 29, 2003, 03:51:17 AM
" Originally posted by: thecubedcanuck MK- DD is far to much an N64 copy
lol except they changed it entirely lol"
It plays exactly the same though, after playing it for 10 minutes, it feels like you have played it a million times before, that is what I meant with my comment. I also dont mean it as a bad thing. I am a huge fan of MK64, I just dont see DD as anything worthy of GOTY simply because it is far to similar to MK64.
Hope that is a little better explanation.
Title: RE:GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on November 29, 2003, 05:36:03 AM
Quote Originally posted by: thecubedcanuck " Originally posted by: thecubedcanuck MK- DD is far to much an N64 copy
lol except they changed it entirely lol"
It plays exactly the same though, after playing it for 10 minutes, it feels like you have played it a million times before, that is what I meant with my comment. I also dont mean it as a bad thing. I am a huge fan of MK64, I just dont see DD as anything worthy of GOTY simply because it is far to similar to MK64.
Hope that is a little better explanation.
so tru.
Title: RE:GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 01, 2003, 10:30:13 AM
Still MK: DD is a very good game and worth a pick up due to its fun factor.
Title: RE:GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: Luciferschild on December 01, 2003, 11:08:33 AM
My vote for game of the year would be lotr Return of the King. That game is just awesome. For gamecube exclusive I don't know I got to play more games.
Title: RE:GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: rpglover on December 01, 2003, 11:24:11 AM
i would either say wind waker or viewtiful joe wind waker is very well done and should get it for how it presented itself- i dont know about everyone else but i thought the cell shading used in wind waker was well implemented- but not only are the graphics in ww are beautiful, people tend to forget how this zelda had (in my opinion) the best story out of any zelda- the story line in the game, while not epic rpg great, was very well done and nicely implemented for a zelda game
now as of viewtiful joe- i think this was one of the best games released all year- it is a fresh new take on a sidescrolling game and the vfx were used very well- they were important in both fighting and solving puzzles- the game was very fun and my personal favorite from capcom this year
on the gba front i would choose from golden sun 2, fire emblem (probably would be my personal favorite and vote), or wario ware inc.
Title: RE:GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 01, 2003, 12:18:23 PM
First off, I thought it was Battlefield 1942, not 1914. But I'm not sure, I've never played it. It was the GOTY, though.
WW and F-Zero are both very good games, though I prefer WW. I'm not sure about Mario Kart, but I intend to find that out by tonight or tomorrow afternoon.
Title: RE:GOTY Contenders DISCUSSION
Post by: SCF on December 01, 2003, 12:44:17 PM
Yes it is Battlefield 1942. GOTY? Hmm let's see. MKDD( no it is not Mortal Kombat ),Zelda and Viewtiful Joe are my picks for top contenders this year. MKDD may play like the old N 64 like some say, but I think it doesnt that much, the characters u choose plus the kart affect ur stamina on the races, plus you need strategy, which one for running fast and which one is better in turning and trowing stuff. The game looks great, plays great and it is a blast in multiplayer mode.
Zelda...Well you all know why Zelda owns. Some people may still whine and bitch abou it, but I sure know some that shut the hell up after they gave it a try. The graphics,sound,control and gameplay where all excellent done for this game. I think the sailing was good, it was something completly different for an industry that relies heavy on same old same old ideas.It also answered some questions about Hyrule and the story itself, and open lots of more of course.
Viewtiful Joe.. a completly different game with another style that was good for us to see that new ideas can still be made in this industry. Capcom like the big N took a risk and made this game and we all capcom fans thank them for it.
Of course there are more contenders out there and probably more opinions out there that are valid.I love videogames but I dont have the money nor the time to buy and play em all.(Althought I wish I could but that would have been ina perfect world.) What I did was look for original ideas, yeah you may think MKDD idea isnt that good, but I do. I think Zelda should receive a GOTY award but we all know that the game that will win it will be a FPS, or a really reallly hyped one that doesn't make the cut when you actually finish it.