Post by: CaseyRyback on November 09, 2003, 04:12:04 PM
It is truely quite amazing, people say they work for EB and that they actually have copies(its just too funny)
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 09, 2003, 04:22:54 PM
I hope this damages the hype a bit...Halo is so overrated it's not even funny...
Post by: mouse_clicker on November 09, 2003, 04:24:21 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 09, 2003, 04:32:29 PM
Post by: CaseyRyback on November 09, 2003, 05:30:52 PM
It is a little overrated though. Anyone who plays PC shooters knows that RS3 and NOLF2 are better(RS3 MP, and NOLF2 SP)
Post by: thecubedcanuck on November 12, 2003, 04:48:34 AM
So is Prime and yet I dont see you complaining about that?
Post by: vudu on November 12, 2003, 05:34:29 AM
has the game even sold a million copies yet? last i heard it was only around 800,000. granted, that was six months ago.
Post by: The Omen on November 12, 2003, 06:26:10 AM
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So is Prime and yet I dont see you complaining about that?
So you're admitting Halo is overrated? I never thought i would see those words come from you, Cubedcanuck.
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 12, 2003, 07:36:11 AM
QuoteAnd when have I "hyped" up Metroid Prime? I think it's a great game, but I don't believe it's the Second Coming like XBox fanboys think of Halo...
Originally posted by: thecubedcanuck
"I hope this damages the hype a bit...Halo is so overrated it's not even funny."
So is Prime and yet I dont see you complaining about that?
Post by: Fish on November 12, 2003, 09:04:09 AM
Post by: thecubedcanuck on November 12, 2003, 09:09:43 AM
Halo, Prime, Zelda, are all way over rated IMO. Halo and Prime were very good, the best on each system maybe, but they are still far from being the god sent many make them out to be.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 12, 2003, 10:08:37 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on November 12, 2003, 11:14:34 AM
In any case, good ol' Sherlock Gabe has inquired Microsoft about this rumor, and came up with this official press release from Bungie:
It's false- Halo 2 won't be out until next April, as well knew.
Post by: ghostVi on November 12, 2003, 02:00:00 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 12, 2003, 02:05:47 PM
Post by: Pale on November 12, 2003, 02:09:59 PM
I can't wait for an IGN review of Halo 2 to come out next year. I hope fran does it....so then he can say that he thinks rehashing the same game only adding dual gun support is cool, but rehashing mario kart with dual driver support is stupid.
That will make for one comical day.
Post by: AERO on November 12, 2003, 02:33:03 PM
As far as halo 2 on the 15th. Here is the official word from bungie:
http://halo.bungie.org/oldnews.html?item=7953
Post by: ThePerm on November 12, 2003, 02:45:01 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on November 12, 2003, 02:52:58 PM
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Although there really was nothing wrong with halo. Great game.
Besides the gun limit and the lackluster multiplayer, I'd have to agree that there really wasn't anything wrong with Halo. Things certainly weren't perfect, though, and could have used some work. Overall, though, it was a great game, although I think the immense amount of praise it got was to meet the immense amount of hype it got.
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 12, 2003, 02:55:07 PM
Post by: Joey on November 12, 2003, 03:02:26 PM
Post by: The Omen on November 12, 2003, 04:58:18 PM
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Nothing was really wrong with the game, besides the fact you had to backtrack through the same areas avoiding incredibly annoying and repetitive enemies...Oh wait...That's half the game!
Metroid Prime?
I joke because i carePost by: Termin8Anakin on November 12, 2003, 05:27:17 PM
Now this is based on what I have seen. I've only played 5 seconds of Halo (there was the demo of MP next door, so when the line went down, I played that), but the environments are heaps larger in Halo, especially the outdoor ones. They are much larger than MP. Can anyone tell me how you get to other areas in Halo?
Like, In MP, they are all connected by that elevator. In Halo, the whole 'world' is the inside of a huge ring in outer space. Can you you just walk around the whole ring and end up where you started? Or is it stage-based like MP?
And form what i remember someone saying (though I forget), the reason why there's a Halo 2 is cause the humans/main character/whatever failed in the mission/saving the world/whatever in the first game.
Post by: mouse_clicker on November 12, 2003, 05:35:29 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 12, 2003, 06:33:08 PM
Post by: Shift Key on November 12, 2003, 06:54:35 PM
Although Half-Life 2 is looking more interesting every time I see it. And it should be out soon, being more mod-friendly and better online and LAN multiplayer components. Halo for PC was a let-down, but thats for another forum...
QuoteBut that's been happening in Metroid since the NES days. Why complain now? If its not your cup of tea, don't complain about it.
besides the fact you had to backtrack through the same areas avoiding incredibly annoying and repetitive enemies
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 12, 2003, 06:57:44 PM
At least the backtracking in Metroid has a point...In Halo, it's like Bungie said, "**** it" halfway through development...
Post by: Shift Key on November 12, 2003, 07:09:43 PM
Sure, the levels were huge, but the textures were very simple. And the corridors? Don't get me started about the corridors...
Good to see we're on the same page, Bill
Post by: ghostVi on November 13, 2003, 12:40:49 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on November 13, 2003, 02:26:43 AM
And you guys really should play a bit more of Halo- I've played it through it several times in co-op and a good deal in single player.
Post by: AERO on November 13, 2003, 03:21:34 AM
As for multiplayer. I honestly don't play much with a second person but its got anything you could have asked for pre-xbox live launch.
Co-opperative play through all the missions. 10 or so maps. Several game types. 4 player split screen, and 16 player with 4 consoles connected. It ads up on paper.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 15, 2003, 02:19:42 PM
Post by: Joey on November 15, 2003, 04:36:13 PM
Post by: manunited4eva22 on November 16, 2003, 02:01:34 PM
Post by: Koopa Troopa on November 16, 2003, 02:22:14 PM
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And you guys really should play a bit more of Halo- I've played it through it several times in co-op and a good deal in single player.
Yeah, I've played through it a couple times as well (it stays fresh as a long as you have a new person to play with). I honestly didn't mind back-tracking, it was the stinking Flood that made me cringe. Trudging through Flood-heavy levels was painful
Post by: mouse_clicker on November 16, 2003, 02:54:42 PM
Post by: GoldShadow1 on November 16, 2003, 04:20:26 PM
Right! So, any time a game has had a problem in the past we should definitely just ignore it. After all, we've endured it this long, we can endure it another 15 or so years.
I'm not saying I hated the backtracking in MP - I actually didn't mind it that much. But it was rather annoying. A simple teleportation system like in Castlevania: Symphony of the Night would clear up this problem perfectly.
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 16, 2003, 04:24:26 PM
Post by: PIAC on November 16, 2003, 06:49:06 PM
either way halo 2 isn't out yet
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 23, 2003, 08:27:10 AM
Post by: MysticalMatt517 on December 03, 2003, 10:21:04 PM
Granted, Halo didn't do anything revolutionary in any one part. It's power comes in that it took everything and did it exceptionally well. By the end of the game the whole became something much greater than the sum of it's parts - and that's about the best complement I can give any game. Doom & Quake introduced the world to revolutionary graphics with each new game in the series. Halo's graphics were the best of it's time when it was released. Half-Life showed the world that a FPS could have a compelling story line and took the genre beyond mindless violence. Halo had an epic sci-fi story with twists around every corner that kept you on the edge of your seat. AI has been a growing field in all video games since the beginning. Halo's AI, while not perfect, sometimes was so amazing that is was spooky. Nothing HALO did was new, but everything HALO did was of amazing quality. THAT is what made it an awesome game.
Was HALO overrated? Not a bit. To this day I still never grow tired of killing covenant scum. Do I fear that the expectations and hype of Halo 2 will kill it? Absolutely. If what's going on with Deux Ex: Invisible War is any indication then we need to turn down the hype-meter fast or we're going to destroy some amazing upcoming games.
BTW, I highly doubt that there will 'NEVER" be a Halo 3 simply because Bungie wants to do something else for a while. Game developers are allowed to deviate for a while then continue a series a few years later... My personal suspicion is that Bungie has an RPG of some sort simmering on the side burners somewhere ;-].
Post by: manunited4eva22 on December 04, 2003, 10:11:15 AM
You want good FPS, I can only direct you to PC. I mean come on, Halo was origonally a MACINTOSH game. It would have been had Microsoft not bought Bungie. But as in terms of halo as not being overrated, keep thinking that. There are more than a few first person shooters on PC that have easily matched Halo, and at best gotten a 95%, not game of the year, not anything.
Thats an opinion of course, but considering I have played every major FPS since Wolfenstein, and every major online FPS since DOOM, I think I would have atleast a very good idea.
Post by: thecubedcanuck on December 04, 2003, 10:21:48 AM
1 - HALO
2 - Perfect Dark
3 - Golden eye
4 - time splitters
IMO Prime is not a true FPS because you can move and turn at the same time.
Post by: Bloodworth on December 04, 2003, 05:42:46 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on December 05, 2003, 05:44:01 AM
Post by: manunited4eva22 on December 05, 2003, 01:30:36 PM
By the way, there are more than a few controllers that eliminate the keyboard for PC FPS.
As for "never touching pc games" you miss out on very many well designed, technically impressive, and just fun games.
Post by: MysticalMatt517 on December 05, 2003, 04:29:21 PM
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Originally posted by: manunited4eva22
Halo is a sequel you know.. all they really did was build on that.
A sequel to what??? Marathon? I'm not trying to be sarcastic, but I've not heard this. I would really like to know what game Halo is a sequel to. I know that Master Cheif has been evolving throughout a number of Bungie games to his present form today but as far as I know none of those games fall directly into the Halo universe.
I'm going to be honest and say that I shy away from PC games for a variety of reasons. I'm a Computer Programming student in my second year of college. Therefore, I spend a lot of time in front of my computer each day doing stuff that I HAVE to do. When I get done with everything else, I really don't feel like staying hunched over my keyboard for another two hours while I play a game. I much prefer to stretch out in my recliner and play.
Another reason I don't do much with computer games is because I like console controllers. I respect those who really like a keyboard and mouse, but I personally can't stand it. I've tried a number of PC controllers but I haven't found one that I like. They all feel cheap, hard to use, or just plain uncomfortable. I'm not saying that every PC controller out there is crap, but I am saying that I haven't found one that I like yet. I make it a point every time I stop by Best Buy or Circuit City to check out the ones on display and none of them feel as comfortable as the console controllers. Yes, even the original XBOX controller is better than most of the crap put out there for PC's.
The final reason I stay away from PC games is the upgrade headaches. I have a fairly high-end system that does what I need it to do. I don't feel like upgrading my system every 6 months just so I can play the latest games. Not only is it more trouble than it's worth, but I don't have the money to do it with. If I have my choice between paying buku bucks to upgrade my system so I can play DOOM 3 or buying 10 GameCube games, I'm better off to buy the 10 GameCube games. This is because of the cost to entertainment ratio. I'll get more entertianment for the money with a console than I will with my computer.
Granted, there are a few games I play on the computer just because they would never work on a console. I spent hours playing "Roller Coaster Tycoon" on my computer because I knew that even if they ever ported it to a console (which they did... the xbox) that it wouldn't be the same.
Anyway, sorry I went off on a rant there... It's just my opinion and why I do things the way I do. I respect your opinion in the way I hope you'll respect mine.
Post by: KDR_11k on December 05, 2003, 08:31:15 PM
Post by: manunited4eva22 on December 06, 2003, 04:29:18 AM
Post by: MysticalMatt517 on December 06, 2003, 04:02:40 PM
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Originally posted by: manunited4eva22
I know none of them fall exactly into halo universe, but I quite well remember some bungie guy saying that Halo was to be a sequel to one of their games. For some reason Pathways sticks to my mind, but that doesn't sound right to me.
Um... ok... I don't think that's enough to classify HALO as nothing but a ho-hum rehash sequel as you seem to be implying. Actually HALO went through a lot of different transitions before becoming what we see today. At one point it was also a tank sim. I suppose that makes HALO nothing more than an unimaginative regurgitation of the old Atari Tank game.
Post by: oohhboy on December 07, 2003, 12:53:31 AM
The Marthon series also introduced Rampancy, basicly computer insanity. There is a reference to it if you off the Captain on the first level of Halo.
Graphics aside, Marthon and Halo are part of the same series, but they are a world apart in style, story telling and in general atmosphere. Halo compared to Marathon was somewhat a step backwards in everything but graphics.
Post by: dus on December 18, 2003, 03:30:51 AM
Post by: Guitar Smasher on December 19, 2003, 11:59:24 AM
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Originally posted by: MysticalMatt517
Granted, Halo didn't do anything revolutionary in any one part. It's power comes in that it took everything and did it exceptionally well. By the end of the game the whole became something much greater than the sum of it's parts - and that's about the best complement I can give any game. Doom & Quake introduced the world to revolutionary graphics with each new game in the series. Halo's graphics were the best of it's time when it was released. Half-Life showed the world that a FPS could have a compelling story line and took the genre beyond mindless violence. Halo had an epic sci-fi story with twists around every corner that kept you on the edge of your seat. AI has been a growing field in all video games since the beginning. Halo's AI, while not perfect, sometimes was so amazing that is was spooky. Nothing HALO did was new, but everything HALO did was of amazing quality. THAT is what made it an awesome game.
What you say is completely true, but it also proves how overrated Halo actually is. You, and others, say that Halo is the 'best' FPS, because it combines all the afformentioned elements of other games. Well, I doubt that you are unaware, but Perfect Dark was the first FPS game to include all these elements. Graphics - best of its time (on console), Story - all very compelling and sci-fi with several twists and turns, AI - I might be mistaken, but PD was the first game where an enemy fooled me into thinking he was dead, by dropping his gun and falling down (he later surprized me by shooting me after I passed him). What you say about Halo is completely true, but I still believe that it's overrated because it does nothing or everything that any other game hasn't.
