Post by: WindyMan on November 07, 2003, 06:43:49 AM
Chris Morris, a columnist for CNN Money, has written up an article outlining Nintendo's possible plans for the near future. With the recent GC price cut to $99, and the resulting sales surge, many believe that this is Nintendo's time to get back in the game.
However, there might not be another Mario game in the Cube's future. After a relatively disappointing Super Mario Sunshine, people expecting a true follow up (or that "Mario 128") might not get it. George Harrison told Morris in his article that a new Mario game for the system might be possible, but it's not a sure thing at all.
One thing that is for sure, we probably won't be seeing Nintendo launch its next-gen hardware before Sony or Microsoft will launch theirs. Nintendo is working to meet them at launch, not beat them, says Morris.
Additionally, Nintendo probably isn't going to be producing a new piece of hardware to compete with the new PSP system. That doesn't mean they aren't looking at Sony's unit carefully, because Nintendo is considering it to be a threat to the Game Boy empire, and is treating it as such.
Finally, a surprise is in store for us in the spring of next year:
In August, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata said the company was working on an "unconventional" game product that would be introduced in early 2004.
Is it hardware? Is it software? Harrison said even he didn't know what the company had in mind. ("You can beat me, but I don't know!" is what he actually said.)
For the original article, click here and read all about it.
Post by: cubedcinder128 on November 07, 2003, 07:20:48 AM
I'm not surprised to hear, however, that Nintendo probably won't make a GBA2 to combat against PSP. They should do what they did during the SNES days... insert special chips inside games that give the GBA extra potential while its rivals make the new hardware. Much like in games like Star Fox and Donkey Kong Country.
It's cost-saving measures like that which helped the SNES gain an edge around the mid-90s. I don't see why the strategy wouldn't work for GBA.
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Post by: Pale on November 07, 2003, 10:03:39 AM
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Originally posted by: kingvudu
no way would nintendo bundle the next gameboy with the next home console. it would kill the sale far too much for those who are only interested in one of the two.
See, i think the connectivity kick their on is what is going to cause this. Each system is going to be integral to the other systems performance. The price point is going to be great. Say 200 at launch for both systems. All games will start taking connectivity to the next level. Picture a Gameboy game that has certain parts that you have to play on the TV, (with the outstanding performance and quality of the home system), and then certain parts you can play on the road. In fact, picture not ever distingusing between what is a home console game and what is a portable game. Both can be played in a certain way in both places.
Well thats what I want anyway.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 07, 2003, 10:29:17 AM
COS-PLAY, BANZAI!
Post by: jasonditz on November 07, 2003, 10:55:44 AM
And then the shocking revelation that they're working on something that'll be available in Spring 2004.
If I was a shareholder in Nintendo corporation I'd be majorly pissed. Mario 128 would be an enormous moneymaker. Why the hell not do it?
I'm not too impressed with the announcement of a new unconventional product. Last time they did that we got Boktai, do we really want a gimmicky game that we can only play on a nice day?
Post by: jasonditz on November 07, 2003, 10:57:13 AM
Post by: vudu on November 07, 2003, 11:14:07 AM
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The price point is going to be great. Say 200 at launch for both systems.
both the gamecube and the gameboy advance are selling for $100 apiece. (duh)
how is nintendo going to manage to release both the next home console and the next handheld console for $200? we'll be lucky if the n5 retails for $200 by itself.
Post by: Ian Sane on November 07, 2003, 11:16:15 AM
The general rule of Nintendo is that everything they make is about 100 times lamer than how great and innovative they say it is. Don't expect anything significant or you'll be disappointed when they announce a microphone for a new Hey You! Pikachu game. I'm going to have low expectations going in so I don't get burned like the million other times I've been let down by hype.
Of course whenever I try that I never hold out and end up hyping myself up the day before. *Sigh*
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Post by: Pale on November 07, 2003, 11:37:14 AM
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The price point is going to be great. Say 200 at launch for both systems.
both the gamecube and the gameboy advance are selling for $100 apiece. (duh)
how is nintendo going to manage to release both the next home console and the next handheld console for $200? we'll be lucky if the n5 retails for $200 by itself.
Uhmm...the key work in my thing was.... LAUNCH! I don't think they are gonna launch the new nintendo at 100 dollars...as you said later in your post....
Thanks for the duh.
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Post by: PIAC on November 07, 2003, 12:21:50 PM
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Originally posted by: jasonditz
If I was a shareholder in Nintendo corporation I'd be majorly pissed. Mario 128 would be an enormous moneymaker. Why the hell not do it?
I'm not too impressed with the announcement of a new unconventional product. Last time they did that we got Boktai, do we really want a gimmicky game that we can only play on a nice day?
...launch it on N5? that would seem quite logical, just look at the n64 launch with Mario 64, it's not rocket science.
you can play boktai during the night, didn't you read any info on the game? -__- you collect solar energy and store it in energy banks for later use. as for the 2004 unconventional product, don't expect anything as Ian Sane said, it's better to just let it happen, it may be something really awsome, it may be something reletivly simple and only apealing to a small group, either way best to just wait for the announcement.
donkey konga looks awsome btw
Post by: Kulock on November 07, 2003, 12:25:06 PM
I'm surprised it's specificially not a new GB, because I thought it might be the next GB integrating that new screen developed by Sharp, the type that can fake up to a meter of depth? Wouldn't that kick for a portable system? It would make the most sense to develop it into a new GBA, but knowing Nintendo, they'll build it into a seperate product no one will want. All well.
The thing that bugs me most is that they're saying it's likely Super Mario 128 (not that 100's Marios thing, it's obvious the two projects having the same name is coincidence, because of the way a working title is typically assigned), a game that was supposedly in the works simultaneously with Sunshine (that's what they _said_, anyway), that people were expecting last E3, may not even show up until 2005? Give me a bloody BREAK. OK, Miyamoto or whomever's got this revolutionary idea (didn't we hear about that last time for Sunshine? It was such a big deal, they couldn't show off the water pack's hover feature...), what was to be Mario 128 can't or won't be completed until the new system. Fine. They can make SOMETHING for the meantime. Just a filler title, something gamers might find enjoyable, that still keeps Mario in people's minds. It could be as simple as making a 2.5D platformer, quite a lot like Melee. Some old school level designs and tricks, some nice graphics, decent music, it wouldn't be _the_ hit, but it'd probably do decent business, and fans would be complaining a LOT less. They could do up a project like that with a moderately small staff (heck, chuck it on to HAL, I _love_ how they handled SMB, versus how NCL's handled them lately), eight to ten months, they'd have it in time for 2004 Christmas. And it wouldn't spoil people's appetites for the next "huge" Mario game, since that wouldn't show up until mid-2005 at the earliest.
Post by: VideoGamerX on November 07, 2003, 12:52:23 PM
Nintendo needs to release Mario 128 for GameCube. I'd release it as a cross-console generation game - it plays on the Nintendo GameCube but looks far better with richer textures on the N5. There'd be insentive to a) buy the game and b) buy the new Nintendo so it looks a lot better. That's just my idea, though. It's a little like the PS1 games played on a PS2 idea but it takes it to a much higher level.
Post by: jasonditz on November 07, 2003, 01:03:44 PM
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Originally posted by: jasonditz
If I was a shareholder in Nintendo corporation I'd be majorly pissed. Mario 128 would be an enormous moneymaker. Why the hell not do it?
I'm not too impressed with the announcement of a new unconventional product. Last time they did that we got Boktai, do we really want a gimmicky game that we can only play on a nice day?
...launch it on N5? that would seem quite logical, just look at the n64 launch with Mario 64, it's not rocket science.
Surely you're not holding the N64 up as an example of the right way to launch a console.
At any rate, the N5 is 2 years or more away. The cube is finally starting to sell well at its new price, why start to abandon it?
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you can play boktai during the night, didn't you read any info on the game? -__- you collect solar energy and store it in energy banks for later use. as for the 2004 unconventional product, don't expect anything as Ian Sane said, it's better to just let it happen, it may be something really awsome, it may be something reletivly simple and only apealing to a small group, either way best to just wait for the announcement.
donkey konga looks awsome btw
Yeah, but the problem is we don't all live in San Deigo. Some of us live places where we're looking at several months of winter just after launch. I don't know about you, but I'd just as soon not have to wander around in the snow collecting sunlight.
Post by: Ian Sane on November 07, 2003, 01:23:09 PM
The N64 was a huge success at launch. It didn't really start getting smoked by the PSX until a year later when everyone realized each game was released like 3 months apart.
However Super Mario 64 wasn't just insanely successful because it was a Mario title. The real reason it was such a system seller was because at the time no game was like it. It was easily the most amazing 3D game of all time when it was released. Nintendo can't mimic that sort of breakthrough so a Mario title alone won't ensure a successful N5 launch. But it will help. In my opinion the whole reason the Cube hasn't done very well is because Nintendo released a game that could be beaten in a weekend as their big launch title and then released nothing for six months. While a Mario launch title doesn't guarantee success it will likely prevent total failure. At the very least it would be a title with some meat to it that people could play for months if they have to.
Post by: PIAC on November 07, 2003, 01:30:35 PM
:\ forgot about that part, well i guess that would be pretty annoying
Post by: CaseyRyback on November 07, 2003, 01:36:06 PM
HAL has spent forever making the crap that was Kirby's Air Ride, so hopefully Smash Bros. online was being worked on
Post by: jasonditz on November 07, 2003, 02:30:09 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 07, 2003, 02:37:16 PM
Stop acting like you guys know so much about business in the gaming industry...
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Post by: jasonditz on November 07, 2003, 07:27:00 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill
Hmmmm should Nintendo send out a new Mario game towards the end of the Cube's life cycle, or perhaps wait and have it at launch for their next system where it will sell a lot more...Think people!
Stop acting like you guys know so much about business in the gaming industry...
Hell, why don't they wait until three or four more consoles have come and gone? Just think how well a new Mario will sell if we haven't seen any in a couple decades?
Now, rather than hurling random insults, fun though it may be, lets think about it like rational human beings. What is the best selling console game? I mean, of all time...
Super Mario Bros. 3.
Now, was this a launch title?
In fact, it came out near the end of the NES's life cycle. And yet they sold 15 million copies (Guiness Record Book estimate).
Maybe if they'd help back until the SNES launch they could've sold 20 million?
The truth of the matter is a launch title will not sell more copies, because most people don't buy the console at launch. The Gamecube, for all the negativity directed towards it, has shipped an estimated 15 million systems worldwide. Now, if Nintendo were to create a truly great new Mario title, what percentage of GC owners would buy it?
Post by: Famicom on November 08, 2003, 02:03:30 AM
As far as Mario is concerned, I don't really care if they don't release another one on the GC. As a long time Nintendo fan, I've long since learned not to get excited about stuff I haven't seen, and I haven't seen any visual proof of another Mario platformer to begin with, so I'm oblivious to it all. Launch game for the N5, show off the new hardware with (hopefully) a better Mario game and (hopefully) a better controller, sounds like a solid plan to me.
Post by: TrekGeekMid on November 08, 2003, 02:22:01 AM
Anyway, I agree that with Nintendo, it is best not to count your chikcens before they hatch. I have a strong suspicion that a decision has been made to hold back the next Mario game till the next generation, probably to allow all the time in the world to polish it to a Mario 64-level.
My concern is if they pushed through another Mario game for the GCN, there wouldn't be sufficent time/resources to develop a quality Mario title for the N5 launch. If this fear of mine is true, then it could lead to either a lack-luster game or a delayed game. The GCN demonstrated that this isn't such a good thing!
Ahem...back to my original point, I just try to not get my hopes up about any of Nintendo's games until it is fairly certain they are really coming out.
Post by: NarmaK on November 08, 2003, 03:18:35 AM
As for the super new crazy ass mysterious thing they are working on, I have some stupid and crazy ideas.
Virtual Boy 2, now with brain stem jack for ultra realism.
Nintendo OS, you hear that microsoft! You invade my territory and try to put me outa buisness! Eat bankruptcy ya jackass!
Nintendo PCs, 10 ghz processor? Sure, I'd buy one.
NESSix, mini laptop sized portable gaming system. Wireless dial up for net play, 2d based graphics for FF type rpgs, 10 gig HD for downloadable extras, and some more crap I have mentioned at one time or another.
Nintendo Fried Chicken, mmm mmm, gotta love those 12 different herbs and spices.
Free hookers and cash with every purchase of a nintendo game.
A t-shirt with a picture of mario on it... MEGATON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111!!!
GC port hub, external device that jacks into the control slot. For the new controllers that actualy use fingers other than your thumbs!! Also good for headset and umm, keyboards and mouses, and USB devices, and NFC bucket warming device. Bah haha!
All in one gba, n64, snes, and GC. Includes high res monitor for progresive scan. And uh, included network adapter and some other crap.
Well, I got more ideas but they are too good to tell you, damn thiefs!
Post by: Ian Sane on November 08, 2003, 05:59:47 AM
Well Conker also didn't sell that well because it was an M-rated game and at that point kids and hardcore fans were the only people who bought N64 games. Perfect Dark had poor sales as well for the same reason. Plus Conker had very little advertising from Nintendo (much like another mature Nintendo game Eternal Darkness). Paper Mario on the other hand was a more mass market friendly game with the Mario license and was released only a month before Conker and I think it sold pretty well. Plus there's a difference between Nintendo releasing a Mario game in 2004 and 2006. The next Mario game doesn't have to be released at the very end of the Gamecube's lifespan.
"Well, I think they will have a hard time improving on the GCN pad...maybe if they built wireless controller technoloty into the system?"
Have you used the d-pad? That alone is worthy of a controller redesign. Plus there's that stupid Z button and the fact that button layout only works well for Nintendo's own games.
Post by: Razenwolf on November 08, 2003, 06:23:43 AM
Post by: Dryden on November 08, 2003, 06:51:58 AM
That means two things:
1. That it's probably not on the market until Summer, knowing Nintendo's bad release estimates.
2. That this is old news by 3 months.
These just tend to make me agree with the others here on the forum and with Rick that it's only Donkey Konga. That sounds like an "unconventional" game product to me.
As for Super Mario 128 - it's a possibility. Nothing more. Kinda like Metriod Prime was a possibility for N64. I'm quite glad they waited. And Super Mario 128 would be a wonderful lauch title for the N5. Missing Mario Sunshine at launch of the Cube hurt, and Sunshine sold a lot of consoles, even if it was a disappointing game. Besides, Super Mario 128 is a simple launch title for a new system - only one player, no need for online capabilities, and gives the developers room to show off new hardwarde.
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Post by: Dryden on November 08, 2003, 09:13:44 AM
That means that the "unconventional" product is in fact something we haven't heard about, and Rick is wrong. HA!
With Mario 128 further off (apparently), maybe this unconventional game product is something from our good man, Shigeru Miyamoto? But if the senior VP of marketing hasn't heard anything whatsoever, even after a three-month old announcement, this is a well kept secret indeed.
I'm sure more rumours will abound, but we likely won't find out till E3.
My call? A Rubix GameCube. No joke.
Post by: jasonditz on November 08, 2003, 09:29:48 AM
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Originally posted by: NarmaK
This guy is just telling us stuff we already know (or should know). Its just a report to make stupid investers think they know something special.
As for the super new crazy ass mysterious thing they are working on, I have some stupid and crazy ideas.
Virtual Boy 2, now with brain stem jack for ultra realism.
I'd buy it. Hell, I still play my old VB once in awhile.
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Nintendo OS, you hear that microsoft! You invade my territory and try to put me outa buisness! Eat bankruptcy ya jackass!
Surely the better name would be MariOS
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Nintendo PCs, 10 ghz processor? Sure, I'd buy one.
NESSix, mini laptop sized portable gaming system. Wireless dial up for net play, 2d based graphics for FF type rpgs, 10 gig HD for downloadable extras, and some more crap I have mentioned at one time or another.
Sensibly priced at 100,000 yen for launch.
Post by: VideoGamerX on November 08, 2003, 03:26:28 PM
I can see it now... Super Mario Forever because it's going to be forever before we see it. In the mean time, if they're not going to work on that for the GameCube, they'd better crank out something pretty good. Something original would hit the spot.
Post by: Dryden on November 08, 2003, 03:56:37 PM
And it's not like Mario 128 will need lots of advance press anyway. I wouldn't expect anything until their pre-E3 press releases. If nothing then, then we wait for the N5.
Besides, there's plethora of Mario related games coming out soon, including Mario Kart, Mario Party 5, Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga, and the long awaited Mario Tennis. LONG awaited. Four months between Mario Golf and Mario Kart, and four more (at least) until Mario Tennis. I hate marketing saavy.
Post by: Mysi on November 08, 2003, 04:01:43 PM
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And no way have they got the balls to release another VR system. The VB debauchle should've scared them straight in that regard.
Maybe not another Virtual Reality (VR) *system*, per ce, but I can see Nintendo making a VR accessory for the Gamecube/N5 systems.
Some things that went wrong with the Virtual Boy include, a) it had a two-color scheme of black and eye-piercing red, b) it was pretty damned expensive for something that hurts your eyes, and c) no multiplayer stuffs.
So yea, if Nintendo decided to make an VR accessory for a console, that would be pretty cool.. although it's quite doubtful that this is the mysterious "unconventional" new product that the article is talking about. I'd place my bets that it has something to do with online gaming, a new accessory for either the Gamecube or GBA, or just some piece of software that gets a lot of hoopa for having one special feature (like GBA-GC-online connectivity).
MYSI, who will now go and play Lemonade Tycoon.
Post by: Berny on November 09, 2003, 04:51:13 AM
Rule Nuber 1: Don't panic. Nintendo always manages in the end.
Post by: mouse_clicker on November 09, 2003, 06:50:07 AM
Post by: Dryden on November 09, 2003, 07:15:38 AM
As for a new VR accessory - I can't seriously see this happening until VR games become more popular in Japanese arcades. If Nintendo spearheads this, you'll be seeing VR with their Triforce arcade board, not on console. I never liked the Virtual Boy, because it wasn't portable, and it wasn't a home system. This is a big problem that Arcades can overcome.
And as for the PSP - Nintendo is taking the threat seriously. But they won't be "spooked" into changing their market strategy by announcements from Sony. Sony has a lot more to lose, and gain, than Nintendo does in the portable market. The risk is Sony's, not Nintendo's.
Post by: mouse_clicker on November 09, 2003, 07:51:55 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 09, 2003, 07:59:33 AM
Post by: Oldskool on November 09, 2003, 08:43:15 AM
VIRTUAL BOY 2!!! (Guarenteed to make you go blind.)
Post by: mouse_clicker on November 09, 2003, 09:46:41 AM
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They say they're taking Sony seriously, but I don't see this as a very serious response.
Post by: novastar512 on November 09, 2003, 11:27:28 AM
Ok I will be extremely mad at Nintendo if they release a new GB in less than 2 years time. I bought a GB Color and within a year, the GBA came out. Then after stuggiling in the dark for over a 1 and a half the GB SP. Came out and I bought it. During that time I solde my GBColor and GBA, so that I could cut my losses. And trust me I spent way too mcuh money on gameboys in the past years. It would have been nice if nintendo released or made an announcment that the GBSP was coming out and then I wouldn't have bought the original!!!
I will be seriously mad at you nintendo if there is a new gameboy in the near future.(which if they make this announcement and relase SDKs, the other companies, including nintendo, with NOT MAKE MORE games for the SP and instead develop for the new system.)
What ever happened to the GB not becoming obselete. Nintendo, you better be listening, since you will make alot of people mad.
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 09, 2003, 11:46:29 AM
QuoteKeep in mind that Sony is taking the Nokia path...To put out a multimedia machine, not just a handheld console...Ninty most likely sees this as well: that Sony will most likely be aiming at a completely different market...
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They say they're taking Sony seriously, but I don't see this as a very serious response.
Post by: mouse_clicker on November 09, 2003, 01:31:23 PM
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Post by: VideoGamerX on November 09, 2003, 02:39:02 PM
I think it's too soon for Nintendo to start countering Sony's hardware moves in the handheld area. The GBA has over a thousand games at its disposal for a library. The only thing they could really do aside from adding more technology to a handheld is go wireless for multiplayer. I don't think those are leaps and bounds improvements over the GBA. Graphics aside, I think we've seen Nintendo win this battle once before with inferior technology.
I think we should talk about what the PSP won't have rather than what Nintendo has to do to battle it.
Post by: FFantasyFX on November 09, 2003, 02:57:19 PM
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Completely different market my foot- there's only one market for handheld videogames and any entry INTO that market should be seen as a direct attack and handled as such.
Yes, and that's why Nintendo's handheld market collapsed after Sega released the Game Gear, Atari released the Lynx, SNK released the Neo Geo, and Nokia released the N-Gage. Oh wait, it didn't. I think that time and again Nintendo has proven that more advanced technology is not necessarily better in the handheld segment.
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Post by: Dryden on November 09, 2003, 05:04:38 PM
Nintendo will simply have to keep competing for developers. This still boils down to keeping market share though, as simple as that.
And as much as I'd love the next Gameboy to be reverse compatible, it better have a similar disc format to Sony's solution as well. We all know how well Nintendo does with cartridge systems against disc systems.
I think VideoGamerX has it right though - wireless is going to be important - very important. I doubt that Nintendo will come up with a cost effective solution and keep 4-player compatibilty at the same time. Two player wireless is much more manageable, unfortunately for Bomberman fans and such.
And I still say the "unconventional" game product is Rubix GameCube. No joke.
Post by: Dryden on November 09, 2003, 05:08:37 PM
And the SNES beat Genesis, again, on game developers. Genesis never had Square, and it took a long time for Capcom to sign on. And of course, Nintendo' game developers are the best in the world, which never helps the competition.
Post by: Ocarina Blue on November 09, 2003, 05:25:12 PM
On another note, with Sony claiming that the PSP will be a ‘multimedia machine’, and rumours of Nintendo teaming up with Apple, do you think it’s possible the iPod and the next GB could be somehow compatable?
Post by: BigJim on November 10, 2003, 04:12:15 AM
The one big difference is that Nintendo well knows of their monopoly. They WILL defend it. All monopolies do. They don't necessarily need a whole new platform like some folks are saying. They could likely fend off the onslaught by improving their existing wares. They were sitting on the GBA SP for a long time and it will more than fend off the Nokia. There's no telling what else they have up their sleeve for a year from now.
Post by: vudu on November 10, 2003, 08:00:06 AM
i also remember when nintendo decided they didn't need a whole new platform and instead decided to dabble in expanding its current console; first with the add-on for the snes which eventually developed into the playstation and then with the 64dd for the n64. as you already are well aware, neither did much for nintendo's benefit.
Post by: p4d4w@n_lInK on November 11, 2003, 03:44:43 PM
--maybe they'll bring it here?--
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 11, 2003, 03:47:36 PM
Post by: monk72 on November 26, 2003, 04:26:30 AM
1.) animal crossing 2: been in development for a long time, maybe since before AC was released, as that game was an N64 crossover. I mean you could certainly call AC unconventional, and now Nin knows it is popular and a "game" very easily enjoyed and
played by anyone that can read. Casual gamers loved it, people that hadn't played games for years bought this to play with their families. It could be a huge new nintendo franchise and/or liscenced product that makes AC2 totally unique. Some people speculated that the new game product could be Mario 128, but if you going to consider including a game in this "new game product" catagory, you would have to inclusde AC2.
1a.) some sort of hard drive (or one of those unreleased super memory cards -do not remember the name) with animal crossing 2 installed and ready to go, possibly with online of some kind (more elaborate than password trading, but probably not total online -maybe trading clothing designs, and patterns, or downloading more games).
2.) iQue Worldwide version, probably under a different name and a huge back catalog of games. Yes, the china version has been anouced and released, but man I really think this is what is coming, or a more modern version, maybe even some different controller design(s). "not a console - not a handheld"...hmm. Sounds like an iQue like product.
Post by: Fluke Worm on December 28, 2003, 07:44:54 PM
I know it wont be but I hope the surprise is a light-gun
, it would be a surprise wouldn't it. UPDATE: NewThread
^ this sounds like an even better candidate (Gyro Controller)
