Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: akdaman1 on November 01, 2003, 12:42:00 PM
Title: NOAus rules
Post by: akdaman1 on November 01, 2003, 12:42:00 PM
We get Mario Kart first and 1080 avalanche first + we get a steering wheel when we pre order mario kart double dash.
Also we now get most games within a week be4 its released in Europe.
They are shaping up..lets just hope that they hand out free ganmecubes.
Title: RE: NOAus rules
Post by: PIAC on November 01, 2003, 01:29:24 PM
no. no they don't rule. not one iota. never have, and unless something changes drastically they never will. but this is a start i guess, they are far from ruleing though.
Title: RE:NOAus rules
Post by: akdaman1 on November 01, 2003, 06:50:32 PM
No you are wrong..they obviousley arent as good as NOUsa but its a start. I mean c'mon who would have thought that Australia would get Nintendos biggest game this holiady season be4 America. Huh? Noone. We got animal crossing a year later , i know..but besides that we are getting most game close to the same time as NOUsa.
Title: RE: NOAus rules
Post by: Mario on November 01, 2003, 06:55:37 PM
Im still waiting for Mario Golf.
Title: RE:NOAus rules
Post by: akdaman1 on November 01, 2003, 07:24:07 PM
Yeah they delayed Mario Golf cause these next few onths are wayy to full.
Title: RE: NOAus rules
Post by: Mario on November 01, 2003, 07:25:22 PM
That must be why.
Title: RE: NOAus rules
Post by: PIAC on November 01, 2003, 08:02:18 PM
i'm still waiting for chronotrigger, mario golf, cubivore, ikaruga, doshin the giant, advertising, etc etc
Title: RE:NOAus rules
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 01, 2003, 08:05:58 PM
I'm waiting for Terranigma...Let's trade!
Title: RE:NOAus rules
Post by: akdaman1 on November 01, 2003, 09:20:54 PM
Nah take this topic seriously...NOA have pulled up thier socks and we are now getting nintnedos 2 biggest games this holiday season be4 ameraica ( MK DD and 1080 )
Title: RE: NOAus rules
Post by: Mario on November 01, 2003, 10:43:07 PM
So NOA are doing a few things right here and there, i doubt anyone besides Nintendo fans will even notice, but i am VERY grateful that we are getting these games so soon though, but it doesnt make up for everything else they have screwed up, we still dont have Kirby on GBA for pie's sake.
Hey look another xbox ad -_-
Title: RE: NOAus rules
Post by: PIAC on November 01, 2003, 11:19:41 PM
i am taking this thread seriously, and shall i continue? okay, im waiting for mario rpg, a decent shipment of paper mario, ogre battle, no earthbound,
they may be doing a couple of things right, to which im greatful, but the point is they miss out on alot of things, wether thats noaus' fault or someone elses i dont know, all i know is as an australian we get screwed alot.
Title: RE: NOAus rules
Post by: Termin8Anakin on November 02, 2003, 01:41:22 AM
I will only start saying Nintendo rocks when I see ads for all their fun games, like Mario, on during the DAY and in the morning, instead of at 1am at night when only losers waiting for free pornos on SBS are awake. PLUS, I just saw an ad for the PS2 that makes Nintendo's Who are You campaign look tame. It was the 'Fun, Anyone?' ad, and they basically have a MASSIVE pile of people. It wasn't a game, just for PS2 in general. Isn't Nintendo meant to be fun? The ad was on suring Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom tonight. Nintendo had better FORCE the tv broadcasters to air their commercials, or that 10 million dollars was for nothing. The Who are You ad IS really cool, and they SHOULD air it here.
Title: RE: NOAus rules
Post by: KnowsNothing on November 02, 2003, 03:12:43 AM
I can't believe you guys haven't mentioned the total non-existence of square games fro the SNES, some of the best ever. I think that's what happened.
Bah.
Title: RE: NOAus rules
Post by: PIAC on November 02, 2003, 07:55:12 AM
*points to chronotrigger* that and every final fantasy pre FFVII, i'm not sure if VI came out here, we got secret of mana and evermore, other than that *points violently at square*
i don't think that 10 million was given to nintendo australia at all, that or they spent it all on pie , two weeks untill Mario Kart and i bet we don't see a single advert for it. ohwell :\
Title: RE: NOAus rules
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 02, 2003, 09:26:04 AM
If it ain't the Logitech Speedforce Racing Wheel, I wouldn't care about it.
Title: RE: NOAus rules
Post by: Grey Ninja on November 02, 2003, 09:40:05 AM
PIAC, in many ways, Nintendo of Canada isn't that much different than NAL. We never did get Tactics Ogre Advance, Cubivore, Skies of Arcadia, or lots of other games that the Americans got. We never did get enough copies of Skies of Arcadia to go around if Canada DID get copies of it at some point (which I doubt), and there are plenty of games that are released here in pathetically short supply. Nintendo of Canada almost never does the sort of things that NOA does, such as holding big events like Cube Clubs. And we have to wait for up to a WEEK after the games come out in the US before we get our games. And if we ask when the stores will be getting the games? The answer is always the same. "We don't actually order games, we just get sent them, and we don't know what we might get."
I live with it without much griping though, other than having to wait that extra week. And the seriously hard time I had in finding Skies of Arcadia.
Title: RE:NOAus rules
Post by: akdaman1 on November 02, 2003, 09:51:17 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Termin8Anakin I will only start saying Nintendo rocks when I see ads for all their fun games, like Mario, on during the DAY and in the morning, instead of at 1am at night when only losers waiting for free pornos on SBS are awake.
Hey whats wrong woth that!!! What are you all talking about anyway...about the lack of advertising...in the last month i have seen about 50-60 gamecubel commercials. They are on channel 10 all the time..."Time to update your gaming, Gamecube now only 199.95". In one day i have seen it 10 times. Although they dont show enough of thier games they are still getting the word out about the pricedrop.
We didnt get SoA...but neither did half the world..whats your point..and dont go bringing up games from 10 years ago because i am talking about how Nintendo Of Australia have pulled there socks up this year.
Title: RE: NOAus rules
Post by: Plugabugz on November 02, 2003, 10:21:41 AM
I've seen two ads for Viewtiful Joe and that was released last week. Despite the small number, it's a very gcool ad showing funky footage lasting a minute each.
Nothing leading up to Mario Kart, that and F-Zero was released here on Friday. I would expect to see some ads of that soon. I would love to play that game, but there's a postal strike and it's STUCK IN THE POST </offtopic>
Title: RE:NOAus rules
Post by: Cap on November 02, 2003, 11:32:08 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Grey Ninja PIAC, in many ways, Nintendo of Canada isn't that much different than NAL. We never did get Tactics Ogre Advance, Cubivore, Skies of Arcadia, or lots of other games that the Americans got. We never did get enough copies of Skies of Arcadia to go around if Canada DID get copies of it at some point (which I doubt), and there are plenty of games that are released here in pathetically short supply. Nintendo of Canada almost never does the sort of things that NOA does, such as holding big events like Cube Clubs. And we have to wait for up to a WEEK after the games come out in the US before we get our games. And if we ask when the stores will be getting the games? The answer is always the same. "We don't actually order games, we just get sent them, and we don't know what we might get."
I live with it without much griping though, other than having to wait that extra week. And the seriously hard time I had in finding Skies of Arcadia.
where do you buy your games from? i buy pretty much all my games from wal-mart, but my only other option is zellers(which doesnt really compare to walmarts selection). for the most part, they have pretty much every game i'm looking for, skies of arcadia included(they had 4 copies i think). they actually recently expanded their gamecube section and i noticed they are even stocking modem and bb adaptors now. the games usually are a day or two late of the release date, but never a week. tactics orge and cubivore i couldnt find though, but i heard that tactics ogre had a very small print run so i'm not really sure who to blame for that. cubivore is probably the same(i wasnt really looking for that game). i know what you mean about not being able to order games or even ask about them though. the employees know about nothing but whats on the shelves, and most dont know anything about those.
Title: RE: NOAus rules
Post by: Grey Ninja on November 02, 2003, 12:40:13 PM
I just got back from a run uptown to look for a broadband adaptor actually, so this is a good place to rant about it I figure. I am damn cold, so this will probably take a while to type with frozen fingers. Skies of Arcadia never came to Toys R Us, Zellers, Wal-Mart, Future Shop, or anywhere else that sells video games in Lethbridge. That's why I was so upset about that.
Anyways, I went to Wal-mart to pick up a broadband adaptor, as I saw that they had some stocked a couple of weeks back. I searched high and low, and found nary a trace of a little black box for my GCN. I was a little dissapointed, so I thought I would try Zellers or the much hated Real Canadian Wholesale. I phoned Zellers and asked if they had any broadband adaptors for GameCube. The response I got was "For GameCube?" I said yes. "What exactly is it supposed to do?" I was getting sort of ticked off when she asked that, so I said: "Well, as the name would imply, it's an adaptor for a console called a GameCube that allows you to channel broadband internet access through it." She was like, "Oh, no we only have that for Playstation 2."
Given the intense stupidity of the woman, I decided to check for myself. It turned out that by some twist of fate, she was right, so I tried the infernal Real Canadian store. They didn't have it either, but there was a guy buying a game and the girl asked "Would you like that for Playstation or Xbox?" I fumed my way out of the store, and went home. Now I'm cold and hungry and I am going to attack the leftover pizza soon.
Title: RE:NOAus rules
Post by: CaseyRyback on November 02, 2003, 12:54:46 PM
order one from Nintendo's site, its 34.99 so you won't get overcharged like a lot of other sites are doing
Title: RE: NOAus rules
Post by: KnowsNothing on November 02, 2003, 02:59:18 PM
*attack'd*
ignorence is crap faced
Title: RE: NOAus rules
Post by: PIAC on November 02, 2003, 04:17:03 PM
i have skies of arcadia, one of like 300 copies released here, and don't tell me not to bring up old games, because that trend is still continuing, i have every right to be annoyed by it, and the australian market in general. to some extent yes nintendo australia has gotten better, i'm not saying they arn't getting better, but they are far from 'ruling'
Title: RE: NOAus rules
Post by: KnowsNothing on November 02, 2003, 04:22:17 PM
Why not complain about previous generation games not arriving? They still haven't gottem then yet, have they? Didn't think so.
Title: RE:NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: akdaman1 on November 02, 2003, 04:54:22 PM
Quote Originally posted by: PIAC i have skies of arcadia, one of like 300 copies released here, and don't tell me not to bring up old games, because that trend is still continuing, i have every right to be annoyed by it, and the australian market in general. to some extent yes nintendo australia has gotten better, i'm not saying they arn't getting better, but they are far from 'ruling'
JEEEZUS CHRIST...happy ..they arent ruling...they are improving...JEEZ..I posted on how they are improving and how we are getting nintendos biggest games be4 the USA..Jeeez stop complaining about SOA . half the bloddy world didnt get it...even NOA got limited shipments of it...I am not comparing them to NOA but to NOE...we get animal crossing - they dont. We got most games be4 them..
Title: RE:NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 02, 2003, 04:56:14 PM
Some of you Aussies are so touchy with some things...
Title: RE:NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: mouse_clicker on November 02, 2003, 05:00:30 PM
Ninja, you need to start channelizing your anger in the form of violence- it's much more effective.
Title: RE: NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: Grey Ninja on November 02, 2003, 05:04:58 PM
Mouse Clicker, if I did that, someone would die. I am right positive of it. Text based venting is a much more effective way to handle things for me.
Title: RE:NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: mouse_clicker on November 02, 2003, 05:06:08 PM
Fine, fine, suit yourself.
BTW, I'm kidding.
Title: RE: NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: Ocarina Blue on November 02, 2003, 05:59:25 PM
PIAC: A version of FF III was released here in New Zealand for PSX, so it was almsot definatley released there. BTW, do any of you guys know if NONZ gets it's releases in the same shipment as NOAu?
Title: RE:NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: cheers69 on November 02, 2003, 06:36:47 PM
i thought they still played 64's in NZ
Title: RE: NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: PIAC on November 02, 2003, 07:07:42 PM
yeah we got the playstation version, ie FF origins, but that doesn't make up for it it's not just skies, pso isn't available to play online, viewtiful joe got a pitifully small release, we STILL don't have mario golf, all problems for THIS generation and very valid complaints about nintendo.au, yes getting mario kart before anyone else will be great, i'm pretty damn stoked actually, but it's not enough, if they continue this trend, i'll be alot happier. i can't really explain it any clearer, if you want to bitch at me saying stuff so be it, i dgaf really, my complaints are still valid.
Title: RE:NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: cml on November 02, 2003, 07:08:11 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Termin8Anakin I will only start saying Nintendo rocks when I see ads for all their fun games, like Mario, on during the DAY and in the morning, instead of at 1am at night when only losers waiting for free pornos on SBS are awake.
...
Nintendo had better FORCE the tv broadcasters to air their commercials, or that 10 million dollars was for nothing. The Who are You ad IS really cool, and they SHOULD air it here.
Why would / should Nintendo advertise during the day? They should advertise during the periods of the day when their target market are actually watching TV. I.e., during prime time. They have gotten a bit better recently, but that is not saying much.
Also, Nintendo don't need to FORCE anyone to air their commercials. All they have to do is pay the broadcaster and they will air it.
Chris.
Title: RE:NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 02, 2003, 07:15:02 PM
There's a reason for Mario Golf not being out: Too many releases as it is this winter(errr...summer for you Aussies )
Title: RE:NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: cml on November 02, 2003, 07:19:19 PM
Quote Originally posted by: akdaman1
Quote JEEEZUS CHRIST...happy ..they arent ruling...they are improving...JEEZ..I posted on how they are improving and how we are getting nintendos biggest games be4 the USA..Jeeez stop complaining about SOA . half the bloddy world didnt get it...even NOA got limited shipments of it...I am not comparing them to NOA but to NOE...we get animal crossing - they dont. We got most games be4 them..
If you want to blame someone for not getting sufficient copies of SOA, blame Infograms / Atari. It is they who are responsible for publishing Sega's product in Australia, not Nintendo.
Chris.
Title: RE: NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: Ocarina Blue on November 02, 2003, 07:42:05 PM
I wasn't implying that Aussie's release schedule is up to date or anything, just wondering if you guys got that version of FF over there. NZ's releases are suprising close to Aussies, relitive to the number of consumers we have. We have just got the first shipment of Veiwtiful Joe, but it will probobly sell out in Auckland and Wellington before it reaches anywhere else.
Title: RE:NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: akdaman1 on November 02, 2003, 07:46:59 PM
CML i aint comp[laining about SOA ...its PIAC...i was telling him to stop complaining. Why on earth would anyone want so many games this summer anyway...Mario Golf could have easily come out here but just like BILL said...christmas is way too packed for us. I mean c'mon I am buying two games next month..and still feel bad cause i want more...i still need to get animal crossing , F0 , PoP , SSX3 , and about a million other games.
Title: RE: NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: PIAC on November 02, 2003, 08:04:41 PM
i can afford to buy it, i can afford to get a new game every week, i don't want nintendo dictating to me when i can get my games, it should have been released near when the US version was released, if i remember correctly we were suffering a dry spell of games.
i'm sure nintendo could influence atari/sega ozesoft/gamenation (heh, thats a contradiction in terms) to release more games, something needs to be done.
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Post by: akdaman1 on November 03, 2003, 12:01:22 AM
i'm sure nintendo could influence atari/sega ozesoft/gamenation (heh, thats a contradiction in terms) to release more games, something needs to be done.
And thats my point ..things are being done..if you compare the american and australian releaase dates..you will find that all games come within a month of eachother...almost.
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Post by: Plugabugz on November 03, 2003, 12:35:35 AM
..Except if you're European in which it's within 6 to 12 months
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Post by: akdaman1 on November 03, 2003, 10:19:42 AM
Thats another good point plugabugz - Europe is now the worst place to live if youra die hard nintendo fan...Australia now gets nearly every game be4 Europe.
Title: RE:NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: cml on November 03, 2003, 05:23:29 PM
Quote Originally posted by: akdaman1 Thats another good point plugabugz - Europe is now the worst place to live if youra die hard nintendo fan...Australia now gets nearly every game be4 Europe.
For whatever reason, Nintendo has always treated PAL territories like it is doing us this huge favour by even releasing it's products in such territories. Europe has certainly got it worse that in Australia. Obvious examples include the earlier release of Pokemon Ruby & Sapphire and the fact that we have actually got Animal Crossing.
But both Sony and Microsoft have proven that not treating PAL gamers like they are 3rd world citizens is well worth the effort. Nintendo had better not make this mistake again with the launch of the next console.
Personally I hate waiting even a month as a game is localised for the European market, but I can handle that. What I cannot stand is the 6+ month delays Nintendo are famous for. There is absolutely no excuse for such delays. None.
Chris.
Title: RE: NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: Grey Ninja on November 03, 2003, 06:24:39 PM
Quote There is absolutely no excuse for such delays. None.
cml, think about what a big job it is porting games to Europe.
First, you have to translate the game into 5 different languages. I am personally well accustomed to waiting 6 months for games to be translated to English when coming from Japan. But with PAL, you also have to modify the game so it runs properly on a TV with a bit higher of resolution and a lower refresh rate. If you think that doing all that is easy, then you need your head examined.
Title: RE:NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: akdaman1 on November 03, 2003, 06:43:37 PM
Thats what i mean..there is no longer those 6 month delays..when Mario Kart was first announced for the 17th of November ( Maerica ) , I thought that we wont get these games until at least May next year...those 6 month waits almost never happen anymore...( please dont bring up AC )
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Post by: PIAC on November 03, 2003, 08:13:41 PM
can i bring up mario golf then? it's not so much the time it takes for me, aslong as we will get the games at some stage, but to not even release titles isn't fair.
Title: RE:NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: Infernal Monkey on November 03, 2003, 08:49:18 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Grey Ninja
First, you have to translate the game into 5 different languages. I am personally well accustomed to waiting 6 months for games to be translated to English when coming from Japan. But with PAL, you also have to modify the game so it runs properly on a TV with a bit higher of resolution and a lower refresh rate. If you think that doing all that is easy, then you need your head examined.
True, but it seems Nintendo is getting even lazier when it comes to PAL conversions with the GC. They GAVE UP on translating Animal Crossing, so they threw it at Australia and New Zealand with the American spelling ('Mom' and so on) and wrong seasons. A year later. Plus there was the Zelda bonus disc, which didn't even run on standard 50Htz TVs.
There's really no excuse at all with the whole Mario Golf thing. It's golf. It's not some text heavy RPG. But you know, I'm tired of bitching about Nintendo.. So I'll just end it here. =p
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Post by: Aussie Ben PGC on November 03, 2003, 09:59:29 PM
I'd hardly say that Nintendo's much better than they were a year or two ago. It seems to be that the only reason the e-Reader came out locally was because Mario Advance 4 was going to support it. NAL certainly seems to be getting much more half-assed. I mean, go and buy a pack of Battle-e cards. You'll notice that on the packaging it says, quite clearly, 'FOR SALE IN THE US, MEXICO AND CANADA ONLY'. Nice one, Nintendo. The packaging isn't even local - they're just bringing US packs directly over. And don't get me started on the atrocity of Animal Crossing. Geez. Let's see, what have we got:
- A blank memory card 59 with no Bonus Items - US spelling - Northern Hemisphere seasons - No 60 Hz mode - No Localisation of holidays, date/time, just about bloody anything
What the hell were NAL doing for 13 months? Twiddling thumbs? We're supposed to be thankful for this terrible conversion or something? All I can say is thank God I've been importing most games.
Kirby: Nightmare in Dreamland hasn't been released yet. Yup. When did this come out in the US? December last year? Wow! Another game that's been delayed by at least a year. Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour is still yet to appear as well. That came out in July, nearly five months ago.
Well, at least we got Super Mario Advance 4 on time, eh? And with e-Reader cards, no less. ...wait a minute, what's this? If you buy it in Wal-Mart (Big W to us) in America, you get SEVEN cards instead of two? Fantastic. Why do I have a funny feeling we'll never be seeing those out here? And the release date for the Mario Bros. 3 e-Cards? "Um...what are those? I've never heard of them."
Fine job, Nintendo Australia. Keep up the good work.
Wow, that does feel much better.
Title: RE:NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: cheers69 on November 03, 2003, 10:06:40 PM
what state u from ben ?
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Post by: RABicle on November 03, 2003, 11:34:40 PM
I enjoy the way this thread deteriorated just there. Ben gives us a great post detailing the crapness of Nintendo Australia Ltd (full of readable spelling, I mgiht ad) and some Knobcheese follows up with asking what state we lives in. Good one.
I think that NAL is really really poor, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that not everything is their fault. For starters, the delay between game releases is because of the time it takes to translate high language games into 4 European languages to release over all PAL territories. It just makes business sense to release the same product in all PAL areas (South America, Europe and Australia) instead of localising EVERY one. We should be more grateful that the far majority of GBA games we get are released very soon after the US, Europe gets them much later than us, yet they dont bitch and whine nearly as much as we do. Is it because we are more arrogant and believe in our own self-inportantance? I think it is. Try to think of Nintendo as what they are, a business, not the charity we think of them us. Who you gonna care about more, the huge growing market, or the minicule, starving, bitchy market on the edge of the world. I pick the first one.
Title: RE:NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: cheers69 on November 04, 2003, 12:05:15 AM
i dont actually care if nintendo isnt goin that well in australia because now we r getting games on par with USA and its getting cheaper. 20million people compared to 200million is alot of difference no wonder nintendo dont care about australia because its so small.
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Post by: Termin8Anakin on November 04, 2003, 03:22:01 AM
Quote Originally posted by: akdaman1
Hey whats wrong woth that!!! What are you all talking about anyway...about the lack of advertising...in the last month i have seen about 50-60 gamecubel commercials. They are on channel 10 all the time..."Time to update your gaming, Gamecube now only 199.95". In one day i have seen it 10 times. Although they dont show enough of thier games they are still getting the word out about the pricedrop.
We didnt get SoA...but neither did half the world..whats your point..and dont go bringing up games from 10 years ago because i am talking about how Nintendo Of Australia have pulled there socks up this year.
What do you watch? Seriously (no pun intended)? I watch Australian Idol a couple of times, I watch the News, Everybody Loves Raymond, BEcker, The SImpsons, and Indiana Jones, and NO, there are NO Nintendo ads I have seen. 50-60 commericials? You've seen more GC ads then I've seen NINTENDO ads since the N64 launch. No kidding.
If you are saying that Nintendo does heaps of advertising, then you are dead wrong. Look in the catelogues for Target, Big W, Kmart, David Jones (Myer if you live in Melbourne), Grace Bros Harvey Norman and Dick Smith, and even EB. They have ONE ad for GC, or none at all. That is because the heads of those stores think that the GC is a lost cause. This in turn creates NO awareness for the GC at all, and therefore the heads of those stores think the machine is EVEN MORE un-profitable, so they REMOVE stock altogether. It is a HORIBBLE paradoxial loop - one that, unfortunately, Nintendo got themselves into. If they DO have 10 million for advertising, then they are not showing it. Because the price-drop ad is not for a game, it doesn't have a rating, and therefore doesn't need to be restricted to certain times of the day. It SHOULD therefore be shown at ALL times of the day.
If indeed you ARE seeing the GC ad, tell me when it's on that'll give you a defintion of the type of audience (or lack thereof) that watches the show(s).
And Adakman, bringing up the names of games liek Skies, Burnout 2, or those from '10 years ago', IS important because it shows you how much NIntendo of Australia is doing to get games to come over here. IF they created an awareness for the game IN THE FIRST PLACE, then those games could be still have been on shelves today. Nintendo's worse thing here is their lack of advertising. They have ads they can use from the US, but they don't use them. They have 10 millions, but they don't seem to be using it. Their other problem is that they seem to only focus on Nintendo-exclusive, but only Nintendo-MADE games, like WW or MP. I've yet to see an ad for VJ, F-Zero, or SC2's GC-exclusive Link because there is either not one made or it is HARDLY shown.
NIntendo of Australia needs to get off their asses. They have said that they regret not doing enough. So they are apologizing, but it is falling on DEAF EARS unless they actually DOING SOMETHING. They know their weakness and problem, so DO SOMETHING.
THAT is what I am saying, Adakman. Pulling their socks up is not good enough until they start running.
Title: RE:NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: akdaman1 on November 04, 2003, 08:36:00 AM
True we got a half-assed port of AC..and e-readers havent been localised but really we are now getting alot of games on par or be4 the USA. The reason Mario Golf was delayed was most likley because these mext 3 months are pacled full...They COULD release it here but its most likley that they are trying to fill in gaps for next year..smart if you ask me..
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Post by: The Omen on November 04, 2003, 10:54:46 AM
I received my Chronotrigger on November 1st.......6 years ago!!!!
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Post by: Mario on November 04, 2003, 12:59:02 PM
Quote They COULD release it here but its most likley that they are trying to fill in gaps for next year..smart if you ask me..
Very stupid if you ask me, i want Mario Golf now, not next year. Next year i will be buying next years games, everyone will be over Mario Golf by then, its so last year dude. I would buy Mario Golf if it was released now.
Title: RE:NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: cml on November 04, 2003, 12:59:34 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Grey Ninja
Quote There is absolutely no excuse for such delays. None.
cml, think about what a big job it is porting games to Europe.
First, you have to translate the game into 5 different languages. I am personally well accustomed to waiting 6 months for games to be translated to English when coming from Japan. But with PAL, you also have to modify the game so it runs properly on a TV with a bit higher of resolution and a lower refresh rate. If you think that doing all that is easy, then you need your head examined.
I don't really need to think about what a big job it is, because I know full well what is required to create a PAL SKU of a game. Assuming you have an English version of the game, translating that game into 5 other ASCII languages really shouldn't be that much of an issue. Some languages, German in particular, can make things difficult because of long strings forcing you to redesign text placement in some instances, but that issue can generally be dealt with a minimal amount of fuss.
As far as the graphic differences go, modifying a game to run at a slightly different resolution and a lower refresh rate is relatively painless, assuming of course you took such considerations into account more than 2 weeks before you are due to deliver the gold master.
Like I said, even though I despise it I can handle 1 months wait for a PAL version, but there is absolutely no excuse for the 6+ month delays that are so often the norm.
Chris.
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Post by: Grey Ninja on November 04, 2003, 02:31:47 PM
The way I see it, if I can live with a 6 month delay for games to get translated into English from Japanese, you can wait 6 months to wait for your games to get translated into German, French, Italian, Spanish, or whatever else the PAL languages use.
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Post by: Mario on November 04, 2003, 02:36:00 PM
But then its not really 6 months is it, its 12 months.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on November 04, 2003, 02:41:08 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Mario [Very stupid if you ask me, i want Mario Golf now, not next year. Next year i will be buying next years games, everyone will be over Mario Golf by then, its so last year dude. I would buy Mario Golf if it was released now.
I have no idea if you were being sarcastic or not, but that quote is very childish...Games are not "fads"...If you truely want the game, then you'll still get it a half-year from now...
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Post by: Mario on November 04, 2003, 02:46:28 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Bill
Quote Originally posted by: Mario [Very stupid if you ask me, i want Mario Golf now, not next year. Next year i will be buying next years games, everyone will be over Mario Golf by then, its so last year dude. I would buy Mario Golf if it was released now.
I have no idea if you were being sarcastic or not, but that quote is very childish...Games are not "fads"...If you truely want the game, then you'll still get it a half-year from now...
In a half-year from now i would rather use my money to buy Four Swords. I have nothing to buy at this very moment, and if Mario Golf were out i would buy that.
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Post by: cml on November 04, 2003, 02:46:29 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Grey Ninja The way I see it, if I can live with a 6 month delay for games to get translated into English from Japanese, you can wait 6 months to wait for your games to get translated into German, French, Italian, Spanish, or whatever else the PAL languages use.
If you are happy with 6 months delays, you are a much more patient gamer than I. That said, in most cases it doesn't really affect me a great deal because I just import the titles that interest me when they release in the US, usually at a cheaper price than what I pay in Australia, and by the time they do end up releasing over here I have long since finished them.
I am simply saying that I personally find the current delays to be inexcusable and unacceptable, and that minor technical issues and translating text are not the cause of such delays.
Such delays are generally the result of slackness on the publisher's side getting the developer the translated assets and / or a publisher delaying a title to fill gaps in it's release schedule (eg, Mario Golf).
Chris.
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on November 04, 2003, 03:20:44 PM
Quote Originally posted by: akdaman1 True we got a half-assed port of AC..and e-readers havent been localised but really we are now getting alot of games on par or be4 the USA. The reason Mario Golf was delayed was most likley because these mext 3 months are pacled full...They COULD release it here but its most likley that they are trying to fill in gaps for next year..smart if you ask me..
Yeah, we're getting quite a few games over the next few months. But what, two will be from Nintendo themselves? Mario Kart and Kirby's Air Ride. If Nintendo think Mario Kart will keep consumers happy for three months, they're going to get a nasty shock.
If there's no reason for a game to be delayed, why delay the bloody thing? As for Kirby on GBA.. Well, there's another game that seriously boggles the mind. It features VERY LITTLE TEXT. There is no major plot. HOW HARD COULD IT BE TO TRANSLATE "PRESS START" FOR THE EUROPEAN RELEASE? ;___; Hell, they could of just released the US version in Australia. NO REGION SETTINGS. BUT LETS NOT DO THAT.
Then again, it's a remake of Kirby's Adventure on NES, and Nintendo never released that in PAL territories. MAYBE WE SHOULD NEVER LET THEM PLAY IT. WE LIKE FORCING PEOPLE TO IMPORT STUFF OR DOWNLOAD THE ROMS. WOO.
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Post by: Mario on November 04, 2003, 03:25:52 PM
Kirby Air Ride should be released here next year Infernal.
Mario Kart and 1080 Avalance are the two big games for the remainder of the year here, and we get them both first (not 100% sure we're getting 1080 first though).
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Post by: cml on November 04, 2003, 04:22:59 PM
Mario, do you know what dates we get 1080 and Mario Kart? What about the Broadband adaptor? Also, any idea if we get the Mario Kart bonus disc that the US version comes with?
Cheers for any info,
Chris.
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Post by: Mario on November 04, 2003, 04:37:33 PM
Mario Kart and the Broadband Adapter both come out on November 14. 1080 is currently slated for November 28 i think, although it hasnt been confirmed.
No Mario Kart bonus disk for Australia, we get the option to buy a GC steering wheel for only $10 instead. Which sucks. :\
We might still get something else with it, but i doubt it.
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Post by: cml on November 04, 2003, 06:25:37 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Mario No Mario Kart bonus disk for Australia, we get the option to buy a GC steering wheel for only $10 instead. Which sucks. :\
Really? Is that through a special retailer, or is it the standard offer? That sounds almost too good to be true!!
Do you have a link where I can get more info? As usual, the nintendo.com.au is void of anything useful.
Chris.
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Post by: akdaman1 on November 04, 2003, 06:36:44 PM
Yes its true we get the steering wheel ....although its only from EB...I got mine but if I were you HURRY!!! ITS LIMITED.
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Post by: Mario on November 04, 2003, 06:44:24 PM
Sorry i dont have a link, just ask someone at Electronics Boutique about it, thats how i found out.
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Post by: cml on November 04, 2003, 06:55:16 PM
Cool thanks for that info. I just rang up my local EB but they are currently out of Steering Wheels unfortunately. I guess I will have to try some of the stores further out.
Are you sure you haven't seen a similar deal offered at other stores?
Chris.
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Post by: Mario on November 04, 2003, 06:56:44 PM
Well other stores might have the same deal but i havent asked or checked so im not really sure.
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Post by: akdaman1 on November 04, 2003, 09:47:11 PM
No its only at EB. sorry ...
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Post by: cml on November 05, 2003, 06:50:50 PM
I managed to track one down at the City store, and I just got back from collecting it (along with Rebel Strike). Lucky I went over lunch rather than waiting until the weekend, because I got the last one, and the guy in the line behind me was also after one but missed out.
Thanks again for the heads up Mario.
Chris.
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Post by: akdaman1 on November 05, 2003, 08:39:21 PM
Quote Originally posted by: cml I managed to track one down at the City store, and I just got back from collecting it (along with Rebel Strike). Lucky I went over lunch rather than waiting until the weekend, because I got the last one, and the guy in the line behind me was also after one but missed out.
Thanks again for the heads up Mario.
Chris.
and akdaman1?
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Post by: cml on November 05, 2003, 08:44:46 PM
Yes indeed. You have both apologies and my thanks.
Chris.
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Post by: akdaman1 on November 05, 2003, 08:56:48 PM
Thank you and your welcome...( walks away with tear in eye )
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Post by: cml on November 09, 2003, 09:18:57 PM
I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere, and I thought some may be interested to hear that it seems Nintendo Australia are subsidising the publishers of some big key 3rd party titles. Both True Crime and THUG will retail for $69.99 when they release, and Batman: Rise of Sin Tzu will go for just $49.99.
Chris.
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Post by: PIAC on November 09, 2003, 09:36:49 PM
you're not missing out on much if you don't get the steering wheel
thats a pretty good idea, the pricepoint of THUG, True Crime and Batman, but won't really achieve much unless they advertise that fact, casual gamers don't really check out titles of consoles they don't own, given they are usually pretty close minded, especially idiotic australians -_-
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Post by: cml on November 09, 2003, 10:05:55 PM
Quote Originally posted by: PIAC you're not missing out on much if you don't get the steering wheel , thats a pretty good idea, but won't really achieve much unless they advertise that fact
There isn't really a need for EB to advertise the deal anymore than they currently are, and I would bet that most stores will have long since been out of stock of the steering wheels. Most likely the deal came about because a purchaser at EB bought a heap of the wheels at a cheap price, they never sold, so EB decided to clear out their warehouse by practically giving them away with Mario Kart. It's got nothing to do with Nintendo Australia. It against their interests to make deals with specific retailers.
Quote Originally posted by: PIAC casual gamers don't really check out titles of consoles they don't own, given they are usually pretty close minded, especially idiotic australians -_-
Sigh. No prizes for guessing which country you're from.
Chris.
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Post by: PIAC on November 09, 2003, 10:34:35 PM
perhaps i should have punctuated properly, i ment the $70 for THUG and True Crime, and advertising that fact, to attract gamers to your (Nintendo's) console.
if you guessed im from australia, then you would be a winner , born in Frankston Hospital Victoria, raised in Newcastle, currently residing in Brisbane Queensland. your move.
Quote City: brisbane Province/State: Other Country: Australia
from my profile
also for further proof you could check my extensive posts in the aussie thread, or i could take a photo of my room containing my aussie flag (other photos and such can be seen at http://www.jaran.de/piac )
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Post by: oohhboy on November 10, 2003, 12:30:51 AM
That is $70 AUSD? So that is about 100 NSD? Not bad but can be better. F0 GX here goes for a fat 130NZD. Other games 140. lowest 100. Turok is still selling fresh for 120. GBA Average 80 to 100 NZD. Madness. Since purchasing Perfect Dark a couple year ago I have only purchased "one" new game fresh off the plane ever. Everything else for the N64 is second and some of the GBA games are Second and all the GC and the rest of the GBA games are import. In my last package I got for 300 NZD, Ikaruga, F0 GX, VJ and AW2, oh yeah throw in the Rebel Strike bonus disc. If I was to get those games here I would only have 2 of them. Thats right only two games. All the games I got in were fresh, not second. NoAUS has to do alot better to get me to buy locally or even consider it. the prices are simply not competive and yes some of the blame could be brought on by the NZDs exchange rate agaisnt the US, but it is on bloody excuse to pay 100 for a GBA game nor 130 on average for a GC game.
NoAUS can so far go and distend thier own asses enough to give birth with each other heads for all I care. I can also say the same for all the other consoles out there. Over-priced, delayed, lacking freebies. I am sticking to my way. the importing way.
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Post by: Hybrid Hunter on November 10, 2003, 01:13:13 AM
$70 only eh? Thats so cool, and $50 for Batman? Looks like i'll get it. I haven't seen any Nintendo commercials either, i've only seen them for Soul Caliber 2, if that $10 milliion went to that only man, what a waste!
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Post by: akdaman1 on November 10, 2003, 08:00:05 AM
I have seen the steering wheel advertised...when you walk in to EB they have little cards around the place explaining the deal.
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Post by: PIAC on November 10, 2003, 08:06:45 AM
-___- i wasn't talking about the steering wheel being advertised, i was talking about the pricepoint on T.H.U.G. True Crime and Batman.
advertising Maroi Kart would be a good idea though...
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Post by: akdaman1 on November 10, 2003, 06:10:21 PM
Well if every third party game was gonna be previewed then T.V would be full of game advertisements...its not nintendos job to advertise third party games as well..its the publishers..isnt it?
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Post by: PIAC on November 10, 2003, 07:58:10 PM
well if what cml said is true, that Nintendo Australia are subsidizing the costs of THUG etc then they are attempting to help the game sell better on the gamecube, and thus advertising or atleast helping with the advertising also would be bennificial, it's no good NAL pumping money into these games if they don't see the returns on the investment.
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Post by: akdaman1 on November 11, 2003, 07:59:35 AM
True...but they have improved way better..releases are much closer together..I have seen many of those "time to uptade your gaming , Gamecube now only 199.00' commercials.
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Post by: PIAC on November 11, 2003, 08:17:50 AM
SOME releases are much closer togeather, SOME! not all of them! you can't just lay a blanket statement like that down because the fact is not everything out in the US is out here a week later, two glaring examples are Mario Golf and Kirby Nightmare in Dreamland for GBA. oh and Tactics Ogre Knights of Lodis. i say NAL is about the same as it has allways been, perhaps a marginal improvement, but nothing to be excited about.
those $199 adverts are good, but they need game adverts to compliment them, why would people buy a system unless it had games acompanying it they wanted to play? i know for a fact most australian gamers are pretty ignorant, for example one guy at work was saying he had a ps2 etc etc but didn't want any of 'those stupid japanese games' i said to him 'i'm playing my gameboy go away' it's that sort of gamer Nintendo will have difficulty attracting, and in my expiriance they make up the bulk of the console gaming public here, and most PC fanboys you will never win over.
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Post by: akdaman1 on November 11, 2003, 06:23:12 PM
Well thats the name of the topic...NAL improving..BTW i am pissed at Ign..they rated mario kart a 7.9 and said it was too kiddy.
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Post by: Jayman450 on November 11, 2003, 06:51:41 PM
Well, after the IGN review I might hold off on getting it and see what you people think. There are other games I could buy if it's not up to scratch.
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Post by: PIAC on November 11, 2003, 07:05:46 PM
well i've had it pre-ordered since the 5th/8th, so i'll drop my impressions here on friday, but i'm not talking IGN's review seriously at all, they did a head to head with Mario Kart 64, and allthough brief (one page) Mario Kart Double Dash was the clear winner, and then turn around and give DD 7.9? yeah that makes sence Sega Soccer Slam scored higher than Double Dash, anyway, i can't really be bothered reiterating my thoughts on the review here, all i can say is don't gauge your oppinion on just Fran's review, read numerous ones, find a reviewer that best suits your tastes, and if all else fails hire it/borrow it.
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Post by: cheers69 on November 11, 2003, 07:17:59 PM
it doesnt look much different from mk64 at all, if its poo its goin st8 back , I 4 one have been highly dissapointed in miyamotos games on the gamecube he needs to start getting away from those horrible n64 graphics.
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Post by: PIAC on November 11, 2003, 07:26:29 PM
sure doesn't *jumps in character exclusive kart with an extra character then fires a character exclusive weapon at friend playing via LAN @ 60fps* OH WAIT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN ON THE n64 VERSION!
better go buy an xbawx, that ensures you don't have horrible n64 graphics, or even bet, how about you get a brain?! CEREBELLUM'D
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Post by: cheers69 on November 11, 2003, 08:37:40 PM
yer piac maybe if we could get a hold of a BBA in australia it might be different and split screen on LAN only runs at 30fps.
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Post by: PIAC on November 11, 2003, 08:59:22 PM
bba availability would improve the n64esque graphics? yeah that makes sence. 30 fps > 12 or so fps for the n64 version, i'm still right, you are wrong.
congratulations on your first and second longest posts though, breaking the 5 word mark must feel quite unfamiliar to you.
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Post by: Berto2K on November 11, 2003, 11:37:58 PM
Not to mention in the head to head, they said that MKDD ran at 60 fps in single and multiplayer. Fran contradicts himself and the head to head quite a few times in this so called review. The feedback thread on it on their forums has over 730 posts.
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Post by: Aussie Ben PGC on November 12, 2003, 12:16:13 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Jayman450 Well, after the IGN review I might hold off on getting it and see what you people think. There are other games I could buy if it's not up to scratch.
Bleh - if reviews were my be-all and end-all, I wouldn't have played Mischief Makers, Tetrisphere, Mole Mania, Kirby 64, Vib-Ribbon, or any of the Mega Man Battle Network series.
And if I only counted on IGN for my gaming decisions, I wouldn't have played a single Rare game.
And that would just be sinful. I can't imagine life without Diddy Kong Racing. Or Banjo-Kazooie. Or Conker's Pocket Tales, which has the most insane villain in a video game ever.
"IF YOU DON'T BEAT HONKER THE SKUNK IN THIS BOAT RACE, I'LL KILL BERRI!!!!" 15 tries later... "OH HO HO! YOU DIDN'T DO SO GOOD! TRY AGAIN, OR I'LL...KILL BERRI!"
I love Evil Acorn's empty threats.
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Post by: akdaman1 on November 12, 2003, 08:09:24 AM
Well MK DD is on an avrage of 91.6 with 7 reviewers...so Ign seem like they are the only ones that hate it.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on November 12, 2003, 08:13:14 AM
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Post by: cheers69 on November 12, 2003, 12:06:52 PM
yer double dash will be good but its not really ground breaking graphics for gameplay, a few little addons will make it better but who has a bba in australia PIAC? i bet u dont have 8 friends with a cube so u can lan. 2 cubes with 6 players = 30fps on LAN thats all im saying.
30fps is ok tho better than 10
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Post by: Shift Key on November 12, 2003, 04:21:16 PM
Bleh, the only reason I'd go for LAN at the moment is for multiple Cubes, but I'll put up with split-screen for now. I've been able to live with it since Super Mario Kart anyways.
And anyway, how would the screen-cheats survive with LAN?
PIAC: cheers is more right I'm afraid. LAN mode only runs on 30fps, but single and multi on one GC runs at 60fps. I'm even less tempted by that. Co-op only really works in FPS when you turn friendly fire off! DANCE RUMMY DANCE *shoots feet of friend* MWAHAHAHA!
Oh yeah, NOAus aren't improving. The fact that a game has been released here FIRST is rare. But it's only one game. And I don't seem to be bogged down with games either at the moment, so for them for now.
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Post by: Mario on November 12, 2003, 04:33:02 PM
Still havent seen ONE commercial for any upcoming game.
Nice strategy Nintendo Australia, just wait until everyone has bought every single non-gamecube game that exists, then hopefully when they have no more games to buy they will have to buy a GC game, A WINNER IS THE GENIOUSES AT NAL
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Post by: akdaman1 on November 12, 2003, 06:39:21 PM
There aint any game commercials..and that sucks but there are plenty of hardware ones...they are letting people know about it being 199.95...and I dont know about you all but i am having lots of difficulty choosing what games to get..
Major games since 15th Oct - End of Nov
Animal crossing F0 VJ 1080 MK DD THUG Hobbit NFSU and way mnore ...cmon this is what i call busy.
Title: RE:NOAus IMPROVING
Post by: cheers69 on November 13, 2003, 11:24:59 AM
mario kart DD is wiked im playing it now mwhuauaahuauhahuauh
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Post by: cml on November 13, 2003, 12:33:40 PM
Just to let everyone know that I picked up True Crime for AU $58 last night at Kmart. They are having a store wide 15% off everything (except consoles) sale. That's a pretty good bargain considering I walked into EB afterwards and saw the PS2 version for $99.
Chris.
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Post by: cheers69 on November 13, 2003, 12:36:22 PM
gez it must of been cheap in the 1st place, is true crime coming out on pc?
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Post by: cml on November 13, 2003, 05:07:29 PM
I don't believe it has been announced for PC as of yet, but it wouldn't suprise if such a version were to release next year, assuming the console versions sell well.
Chris.
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Post by: akdaman1 on November 13, 2003, 06:29:14 PM
I got MK DD and it rulesss yayyyayayy...anyway i have seen 3 MK DD commercials today and I cant believe this has 107 posts.