Post by: Rhoq on October 28, 2003, 11:35:45 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 28, 2003, 11:40:10 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on October 28, 2003, 11:59:08 AM
What sort of companies are pulling back support? Let's see me have Acclaim, Midway, Eidos... I'm noticing a pattern of publishers that SUCK!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 28, 2003, 12:02:47 PM
Burnout 2, Timesplitters 2, Hitman 2, and The Suffering were all games I like/have great interest in. The potential's really there.
When they pull their support, THAT'S what really makes them SUCK.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 28, 2003, 12:03:20 PM
And Free Radical isn't with Eidos anymore, so you don't have to worry about not getting the next TS installment...
Post by: Gup on October 28, 2003, 12:04:08 PM
Post by: ThePerm on October 28, 2003, 12:07:48 PM
i mean this is a rediculous time to start pulling support when gamecube is doing SUPER WELL......i mean their on the brink of DESCIMATING xbox's 2nd place in the U.S. Ever since the price drop they've been selling like hotcakes...this is one of those short sided things you would only see an american company like midway pull. God bless Retro.....
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 28, 2003, 12:09:02 PM
Post by: Rhoq on October 28, 2003, 12:25:03 PM
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Originally posted by: Gup
I like blood and all in my games and anime shows, but there is something about The Suffering's bloodiness that turned me off, maybe there is just way too much.
There can never be enough blood
Post by: kennyb27 on October 28, 2003, 01:35:08 PM
What kind of logic are the people who run these businesses (Midway, Eidos, Acclaim) following?
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 28, 2003, 01:45:45 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 28, 2003, 01:49:19 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 28, 2003, 02:03:25 PM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
But...
Burnout 2, Timesplitters 2, Hitman 2, and The Suffering were all games I like/have great interest in. The potential's really there.
When they pull their support, THAT'S what really makes them SUCK.
Burnout 2 - Developed by Criterion Games, published by Acclaim
Timesplitters 2 - Developed by Free Radical, published by Eidos Interactive
Hitman 2 - Developed by Io Interactive, published by Eidos Interactive
Personally, the only game of the bunch that I give a rat's ass about is Burnout 2. But I don't really see what any of those 3 really have much to do with this conversation.
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 28, 2003, 02:09:53 PM
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on October 28, 2003, 02:11:06 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 28, 2003, 02:11:48 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 28, 2003, 02:14:53 PM
Of course, Burnout 2 didn't sell well one the Cube because Acclaim didn't friggin ship any- it's almost as if they wanted it to sell bad. My EB still hasn't gotten their delivery.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 28, 2003, 02:25:35 PM
*sigh*
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 28, 2003, 02:29:18 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 28, 2003, 02:47:07 PM
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Of course, Burnout 2 didn't sell well one the Cube because Acclaim didn't friggin ship any- it's almost as if they wanted it to sell bad. My EB still hasn't gotten their delivery.
My Toys R' Us back in Lethbridge had some. But afford it I could not. When I moved up here and actually could afford it, I couldn't find it. Go figure. I did buy Burnout 1 though.
Post by: Berto2K on October 28, 2003, 03:38:43 PM
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Post by: Lord of the Flying Monkey on October 28, 2003, 03:53:56 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 28, 2003, 03:55:08 PM
Post by: NintendoFanGirl on October 28, 2003, 04:32:01 PM
their decision to cancel this game. I know I'm angry. I even preordered the game a while back:
pr@midway.com
Post by: Mario on October 28, 2003, 04:38:15 PM
Post by: The Omen on October 28, 2003, 04:38:16 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 28, 2003, 04:39:57 PM
Post by: Berto2K on October 28, 2003, 04:40:29 PM
I just read that the game The Suffering has been canceled for the Nintendo GameCube. This confuses and disturbs me. The reason for this is because of the large support and sales for the Resident Evil franchise on the GameCube. Resident Evil games have always sold very well on Nintendo platforms. Both Resident Evil 1 remake and Resident Evil 0 have sold better than Capcom believed that they would for the GameCube. With both The Suffering and Resident Evil being the same genre of game, it would only make sense that it would sell just as well if not better.
In a quote from IGN from one of your representatives they say you "want to concentrate on the leading platforms in the marketplace when it comes to launching original product." The Suffering has a unique angle being from a haunted prison rather than the standard mansion. It adds something different that isn't already there. Nintendo and their fans are known for buying quirky new games and concepts such as Wario Ware Inc. and Animal Crossing. Those are just two recent examples.
The idea that the GameCube is not a leading platform is misguided. It is in second place ahead of the Xbox in global sales according to the most recent sales figures. Even if it was in third, it would only be by a few thousand units. But with the recent global price drops, sales of the GameCube are skyrocketing everywhere. It will soon overtake Xbox in North America as well.
This is the reason why your games continue to not sell well on Nintendo platforms. You develop games like Hitz and Blitz which are good arcade type games, but not much for playing at home for very long. Burnout 2 is one recent exception though. Many fans enjoyed that game and Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance as well. I purchased Hitz and got bored of it within a couple months, and purchased MK
A and play that everyonce in a while. A general perception of your company from many Nintendo fans is that you do not make quality games and make bad business desicions. Business desicions such as this one. It is no wonder Midway has been close to shutting its doors down. My faith in your company continues to fall and I will most likely not be making any more game purchases from you.Robert Miller
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 28, 2003, 04:55:36 PM
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I must commend your recent decision to stop making games for GameCube. After the experience of playing Spy Hunter, I was beginning to wonder just how many Midway games I had to not buy in order to make this happen. I am pleased to see that it didn't take long at all for you to decide that GameCube owners weren't worthy of your games, and I think that the prospect of you leaving our console alone is truly for the best.
Of course my campaign to not buy your games on PS2 and Xbox still continues, and I pray for the day when we can reach a similar agreement on those consoles.
Respectfully,
Clyde Arrowny.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 28, 2003, 05:02:33 PM
Rush is the only series Midway has the rights to that is worth any of my money...
Post by: Mario on October 28, 2003, 05:15:03 PM
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omg hi midway!
u guyz suk coz u dun support teh cube ver much
plz bring lotz more gamez 2 cube so nintendo cn sel more consolez
an so i cn by ur awsome gamez
from mario kthxbi
Post by: Armed on October 28, 2003, 07:10:55 PM
What i dont get is why dont they just cancel everything, i mean whats so great about blitz anyway?! I'd rather play Madden
Post by: Bloodworth on October 28, 2003, 08:29:22 PM
Post by: Dynamitega on October 28, 2003, 09:38:41 PM
A, I played quite a bit... MK is probably the only Midway game that I like a lot, enough to buy. Their arcade games are usually fun too... like that Grid Wars or whatever that's been out a while.
Post by: Bloodworth on October 28, 2003, 10:52:02 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 29, 2003, 02:21:03 AM
Post by: NintendoFanGirl on October 29, 2003, 03:08:34 AM
Post by: Berto2K on October 29, 2003, 04:21:38 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on October 29, 2003, 06:04:21 AM
We have a few copies around where I live. Maybe I should get to some Ebaying.
"There will probably be no more Midway titles in my collection from now on."
Wow, I said that to myself like in 1995.
Post by: egman on October 29, 2003, 07:26:46 AM
The stupidity of Sega's executives must have influenced a lot of western developers--many seem to have adopted a similar cluelessness of the present and future direction of the industry.Nintendo needs more western support, but not from the likes of these fools. I'm hoping we will see more arrangements like the one with N-Space for Geist. There are lot of struggling developers making crap for these publishers who would love to get their pet projects of the ground. Nintendo might be better off going directly to these developers and completely ignoring the idiocy of the publishers.
Post by: Gup on October 29, 2003, 08:38:45 AM
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Originally posted by: Rhoq
There can never be enough blood
a bloody picture
That is way too much blood.
Post by: Round Eye on October 29, 2003, 08:48:34 AM
So far the only company I miss that has left the Cube is Sega Sports, I really wanted to buy their 2004 hockey. Oh well as soon as Sega's 2003 gets cheap I will buy that one.
Midway leaving=no loss
Still sucks to be have any company not supporting your console as it begins to create a negative image as a losing console in companies and publics perspective. Not a good sign for Nintendo, but they still have my support.
Post by: Cap on October 29, 2003, 09:52:35 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on October 29, 2003, 09:58:49 AM
Post by: Rhoq on October 29, 2003, 10:52:33 AM
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Originally posted by: Rhoq
There can never be enough blood
a bloody picture
That is way too much blood.
What? As I said before, there can never be too much blood. That screen shot looks awesome.
Post by: Cap on October 29, 2003, 02:53:48 PM
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I'd rather support a console with less third party support than a console where crap sells.
while i agree with you, i think the problem is that 95% of gamers dont. i'm not saying that people want to play crappy games, they just dont know any better. a casual gamer walks in, sees all the titles on both ps2 and xbox but not on gamecube and it will affect their decision of what console to buy. personaly, i've come to the conclusion that outside of nintendos existing fans, noone cares about nintendos first party titles enough to base a system purchase on them. i hate to say that, but its just what i have seen and experienced.
recently i was talking with one of my friends who mentioned he was thinking about buying an xbox. i said that while theres some good games, i reminded him that the gamecube recently had a price drop and was a great buy. his reply? "the games arent adult oriented enough". nothing i could say could change his opinion of that. games like the suffering would continue to help nintendo shake that image, but now its just one more reason for people to buy a ps2 or an xbox.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 01, 2003, 03:28:59 PM
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Post by: Urkel on November 01, 2003, 08:31:06 PM
Ah, but they'll never admit that their games suck. I remember near the end of the N64's life, Acclaim started blaming Nintendo for its lackluster sales. Just remember that it was solely because of Turok and a few other, dare I say, decent Acclaim N64 games that kept them from going bankrupt. It wasn't until Acclaim started sucking hard again that sales began to slump, but they chose to blame Nintendo.
Anyway, I wont feel sorry if any of these awful publishers/developers go out of business. Yeah, it's a shame to see people lose jobs, but jeez, they sure have more than ample warning. If more companies don't get it through their heads soon that bad games aren't selling as well as they used to, they'll be in for a rude awakening.
To be fair, there is one Midway game that actually interests me. Midway Arcade Treasures. And it's not being developed by Midway. And it's a bunch of 10-20 year old arcade games. Sad.
Post by: Grey Ninja on November 01, 2003, 09:00:53 PM
Post by: Urkel on November 01, 2003, 09:49:56 PM
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Actually, I was thinking that RTX Red Rock looked better than Gladius... but I really don't like American RPGs very much.
That was sort of my point. RTX Red Rock looked like a far more interesting game, but most of the reviews I've seen haven't been very favorable. I'm not all that interested in Gladius myself, but it's been getting decent scores. My point was that Lucasarts would rather release a game with limited appeal, than a game that was more anticipated that they knew was bad.
Post by: Grey Ninja on November 01, 2003, 10:43:41 PM
I haven't actually looked at RTX Red Rock much since it got cancelled on GameCube, as truthfully, there was never really a good chance that I would buy it.
Post by: thecubedcanuck on November 03, 2003, 05:42:33 AM
Post by: ThePerm on November 04, 2003, 06:33:55 AM
Post by: XIXChamp on November 04, 2003, 01:50:20 PM
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Why does gamespot have a new trailor ofr this game if it is cancelled?
True it still there i think it was most popular # 7 or 8 in the coming soon section and gamespot says it is coming out 2/2/2004 around that date
Post by: ThePerm on November 04, 2003, 02:13:50 PM
Post by: Berto2K on November 04, 2003, 04:38:48 PM
*rolls over clutching eyes in pain*
Post by: ThePerm on November 04, 2003, 05:54:24 PM
Post by: thecubedcanuck on November 05, 2003, 01:34:31 AM
Post by: Rhoq on November 05, 2003, 07:04:39 AM
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 07, 2003, 07:31:51 AM
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Post by: Rhoq on December 12, 2003, 08:55:59 AM
Post by: thecubedcanuck on December 12, 2003, 09:01:58 AM
I was looking for thread when you posted this LOL, I just saw the same thing. I also checked Midway's sight and see nothing about the game in the gamecube section.
Did Midway make an announcement that this was cancelled for ther cube, or is this just an assumption?
Post by: Rhoq on December 12, 2003, 11:03:02 AM
Read the full article from IGN - HERE
Post by: MattCrafty on December 12, 2003, 02:59:36 PM
