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Title: Most *Technically* Advanced 8/16/32-bit machine?
Post by: honda_insightful on October 16, 2003, 04:04:10 AM
[Please stick to consoles *released in America*.... no Famicoms or Wonderswans.]



What's your opinion?



For me:
CONSOLES
8-bit (pre-85) : Colecovision
8-bit(post-85) : Sega Master System
16-bit : Sega Genesis
32/64-bit : Nintendo 64

COMPUTERS:
8-bit : Commodore=64
16-bit : Commodore Amiga
32-bit : ????? Macintosh PowerPC I suppose
 
Title: RE:Most *Technically* Advanced 8/16/32-bit machine?
Post by: joeamis on October 16, 2003, 12:05:13 PM
8 bit pre85- not sure, only owned 1 pre 85 system.
8 bit post85- Gameboy Color
16 bit: SNES (genesis only outperforms SNES in processor speed)
32/64- N64 (3d) Saturn (2d)

Computers: any computer with small modifications can outperform others and vice versa
Title: RE:Most *Technically* Advanced 8/16/32-bit machine?
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 16, 2003, 12:22:58 PM
I agree with everything except the Genesis...SNES games just sounded better and looked better...
Title: RE:Most *Technically* Advanced 8/16/32-bit machine?
Post by: manunited4eva22 on October 16, 2003, 02:09:23 PM
8bit PC= Intel 8086
16bit PC=486
32bit PC=P4 Northwood/Prescott (unless you want to count Opteron)
Title: RE:Most *Technically* Advanced 8/16/32-bit machine?
Post by: honda_insightful on October 16, 2003, 04:27:19 PM
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Originally posted by: manunited4eva22
8bit PC= Intel 8086
16bit PC=486
32bit PC=P4 Northwood/Prescott (unless you want to count Opteron)


Intel 4086 PC?!?!?  Fat chance!  Those old 8-bit PCs had lousy sound (beep/beep) and terrible graphics (4 colors).  Other computers like the Atari 800XL and Commodore=64 easily smashed the 8-bit IBM PCs.

486 PCs had the same flaws.  Although they were improving, they were over-shadowed by stronger machines like the Atari ST and Commodore Amiga which were capable of multi-processing, stereo sound, and thousands of colors.  At best a 486 could go beep/beep and produce 512 colors.

Also, what are you picks for best consoles?




Side-note: Historically the most advanced console is NOT the winner of the console war. Atari 2600, NES, S-NES, PS1, PS2 all won their respective generation... but they were not the most technically advanced system.
 
Title: RE:Most *Technically* Advanced machine of each generation?
Post by: manunited4eva22 on October 17, 2003, 01:23:18 PM
Consoles
8bit: NES
16bit: Turbo Duo (I'm a NEC whore)
32bit: Xbox (I would say gekko, but the PPC architecture borders on 64 bit with the extra extensions it uses.

Fun fact for today, what kind of RAM did the n64 use?
Title: RE: Most *Technically* Advanced machine of each generation?
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 17, 2003, 03:45:45 PM
RAMBUS manunited.  

8 bit - NES (never played any others though)
16 bit - SNES (it just did miracles for what it had.)
32 bit - Xbox (I say this VERY grudgingly though, for the same reason as manunited.)
64 bit - GCN (It's gotta go somewhere.)
Title: RE: Most *Technically* Advanced machine of each generation?
Post by: GoldShadow1 on October 17, 2003, 08:46:31 PM
Bah, categorizing generations by bits is pointless.  Why don't you just use years?  Personally, I wouldn't know, as generally I have only tried one console per generation.
Title: RE: Most *Technically* Advanced machine of each generation?
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 17, 2003, 09:29:30 PM
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Bah, categorizing generations by bits is pointless


Agreed.  Somehow I just haven't found a use for being able to count higher than 4,294,967,296 (32 bit)
Title: RE: Most *Technically* Advanced machine of each generation?
Post by: getupkids on October 17, 2003, 10:16:25 PM
all nintendo systems rock but:

master system
snes
n64
gamecube/xbox virtual tie
Title: RE: Most *Technically* Advanced machine of each generation?
Post by: Bloodworth on October 18, 2003, 12:21:26 AM
These things are pretty much factual so I think it's funny that so many people are throwing in their two cents.  Although I do think it's tricky because what do you do with those random machines that came out between the popular ones and few people know about?  Was the Turbo Grafix 16 competing with the SNES?  It was gone pretty much by that time really.  

I will point out that the SNES was definitely technically superior to the Genesis.  The SNES could display far more colors than the Genesis, introduced Mode 7 effects, and had a far better sound processor.  
Title: RE: Most *Technically* Advanced machine of each generation?
Post by: Termin8Anakin on October 18, 2003, 04:52:14 AM
Neeentendo! Gaemmacooob!
Title: RE:Most *Technically* Advanced machine of each generation?
Post by: manunited4eva22 on October 18, 2003, 11:00:32 AM
Indeed grey ninja, 8 bit Rambus at 600mhz.
Title: RE: Most *Technically* Advanced machine of each generation?
Post by: Bloodworth on October 18, 2003, 01:13:12 PM
Oh yeah, and I guess this is basically a poll anyways, so here come the big keys to lock it up.