Community Forums => General Chat => Topic started by: Gibdo Master on October 12, 2003, 08:53:01 PM
Title: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Gibdo Master on October 12, 2003, 08:53:01 PM
For some reason a folder called "Links" keeps getting put in my IE favorites. I can delete it and before to long the damn thing will be back there again. So is there anything I can do to stop it from showing up.
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Molobert on October 12, 2003, 09:12:17 PM
Yea I had that too--every time I deleted it it would come back the next time. But then I switched to Mozilla and it's gone. Sorry I couldn't help
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 12, 2003, 09:32:40 PM
Better question is why anyone would be using IE. If there was ever a worse browser, it would be Netscape. But IE is pretty close.
EDIT: Sorry, but I just have no sympathy for people using IE. If you have problems while running the browser, I figure you bring it on yourself.
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Ocarina Blue on October 12, 2003, 10:37:21 PM
Use Firebird: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird/ You can import your IE favourites, so you can fix your "Links" problem, and it doesn't have so many security holes either. And if you ever have problems with it, there is a technical help forum at the link I gave you.
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 12, 2003, 10:57:06 PM
I'm using Firebird 0.7 RC3, and I find it to be fantastic. Just glad I'm not the only Firebird spokesperson around here Ocarina Blue.
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Mario on October 12, 2003, 11:10:34 PM
I agree with Grey Ninja (?!), Firebird is awesome, i get a million popups and crashes with IE, not one with Firebird.
Title: RE:Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Shift Key on October 13, 2003, 04:13:47 AM
Well the Links folder is just put there by IE not long after it is removed. Sorry we can't help get rid of it, because that's how its designed.
Either put up with the folder, or look for an alternative. There are numerous other browsers out there which give IE a run for its money, such as Netscape/Mozilla, the standalone Mozilla Firebird, Safari, ummm, those stand out as very high quality browsers to me. Did I miss any?
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: nitsu niflheim on October 13, 2003, 08:52:43 AM
I use IE and have not crashes, minor popups from time to time, but never so much a problem that made me want to waste my time downloading another browser.
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 13, 2003, 08:59:48 AM
nitsu, the thing is that you are using this kind of logic:
My car leaks oil, doesn't go very fast, and people are always robbing it because the locks don't work, but it does everything I want it to. I see no reason to accept this free ferrarri that you are offering me. It would be too much of a bother to actually drive over there and get it.
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: KDR_11k on October 13, 2003, 09:37:55 AM
nitsu: Not only are Firebird and Opera more stable than IE, but they are also faster. In Opera, when your posting won't work you just need to press back and your text is still there. That's something I miss in every other browser out there (does firebird do that?).
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 13, 2003, 11:15:02 AM
Actually, rather than give you a blank screen, Firebird just gives you a message box that says "Document Contains No Data", which means that you don't even need to hit back. You just hit Reply again.
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Gibdo Master on October 13, 2003, 02:56:29 PM
Okay I actually had been using Firebird for quite sometime. However I was sick and tired of coming across websites that Mozilla isn't compatible with. Not only that but from my understanding it uses more memory than IE and so it was wanting to more or less crash after it had been opened for sometime.
Because of these problems I started shopping around for something that had the compatibility of IE but also had a good pop up blocker and tabbed browsing. Well I found a nifty little browser called Avant. It's basically the IE browser except it has a pop up blocker and tabbed browser. Although Avant is working great (with the exception of the "Links" problem) I do like Mozilla better but until they can fix the website compatibility issues and the memory problem I won't be using it.
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 13, 2003, 04:28:21 PM
Fair enough. (for those who don't know, Firebird has a bug in which cached sites are not released from memory when the page is closed. The memory is released when the browser is shut down, so it's not that big of a deal, but it can be problematic for people with low amounts of memory. The bug is still being worked on, but it's very elusive.)
As far as website compatability goes, which sites were you having problems with? I have personally only encountered 2 (one being Windows Update), but I don't surf around a whole lot to be honest. The added features of Firebird more than makes up for the loss of a few sites in my books, and I am a little nervous around sites that only work in IE anyways, as they tend to use "features" of IE that I would rather not use, due to the security risk. I should probably also mention that somebody actually wrote an extension to deal with such sites if you are so inclined.
Title: RE:Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on October 13, 2003, 08:14:49 PM
PEOPLE NOT HELPING THE ORIGINAL POSTER IN THIS THREAD NEED TO VACATE IMMEDIATELY I THINK
Title: RE:Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Shift Key on October 13, 2003, 08:44:46 PM
Let me just sum up these guys views for Gibdo:
~ IE is the most used browser. It is widely supported and user-friendly, but this is also a two-edged sword, as there are ways IE 'takes control' of your computer, and the Links problem you suggest is one of them.
~ There are alternatives, which are just as good (or better depending on who you talk to). While these are less user-friendly, just about everything in them is customisible, right down to the source code. They allow the user to have more control over their environment. And these browsers have very good online support (documentation/forums) so there is always help if you have a problem.
Title: RE:Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on October 13, 2003, 08:50:14 PM
WHAT DID I JUST SAY? ARRGHGHHGHH CAN'T YOU SEE I'M TRYING TO MODERATE TH
Edit: What I mean is, don't goddamn post unless you're solving this guy's problem and not trying to switch him to some hippie browser tie-dye shirt magic hug-a-rainbow business
Title: RE:Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Shift Key on October 13, 2003, 09:15:34 PM
Sorry S-U-P-E-R.
I wasn't going out of the way to preach to the guy, just simplifying all the views. Pretty much all the stuff I said is fact or common knowlege, and I didn't once say Firebird
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: PIAC on October 13, 2003, 09:49:22 PM
i can't belive no-one has said this, just rightclick on links, goto properties and select hidden, now provided you have hidden things set as invisible, you wont see it anymore, it will still be there, but not visable, which i guess solves your problem somewhat.
Title: RE:Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on October 13, 2003, 10:01:15 PM
This sort of thing might depend on user/login settings. What windows are you using? Maybe you need to delete it from C:\Documents and Settings\All Users C:\Documents and Settings\Default User C:\Documents and Settings\yourusername
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Gibdo Master on October 14, 2003, 10:23:58 AM
Finally. Thanks for the suggestions PIAC and S-U-P-E-R.
I'm using the pain in the ass known as Windows ME S-U-P-E-R. My computers 2 years old now so I am saving my money up and looking around for a new one. Anyway I don't even understand the point of the "Links" folder. It pops up in my favorites for apparently no reason and there is never anything in it. The only thing I know is that it is one of the default folders that is in your Favorites when you first use IE. I figured there would be something in Internet Options to disable it but I couldn't find anything. On the bright side since I last deleted it (when I made this topic) it hasn't shown up again. Maybe this time it's gone for good. Doubt it though.
Title: RE:Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: nitsu niflheim on October 14, 2003, 10:31:29 AM
Quote Originally posted by: KDR_11k nitsu: Not only are Firebird and Opera more stable than IE, but they are also faster. In Opera, when your posting won't work you just need to press back and your text is still there. That's something I miss in every other browser out there (does firebird do that?).
I can do that with IE. I could try and post and it would come up saying page couldn't be found, I just back up and my text I had just typed would still be there, nothing ever disappeared.
Title: RE:Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: nitsu niflheim on October 14, 2003, 10:36:48 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Grey Ninja nitsu, the thing is that you are using this kind of logic:
My car leaks oil, doesn't go very fast, and people are always robbing it because the locks don't work, but it does everything I want it to. I see no reason to accept this free ferrarri that you are offering me. It would be too much of a bother to actually drive over there and get it.
I have never had a problem with IE like ya'll are talking about. It doesn't crash on me, it is stable for me, runs pretty fast. I am on dial-up, so speed is meaningless to me really.
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 14, 2003, 02:57:49 PM
A Dodge Neon is pretty fast too, but what am I comparing it to? And if you try to tell me the locks work on your browser, I'll tell you you are out of your mind.
Title: RE:Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: thecubedcanuck on October 14, 2003, 03:16:40 PM
do I need a firewall with firebird?
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 14, 2003, 04:08:57 PM
It would be a good thing to have. Running Firebird just assures you that if you visit a website with a malicious script, it can't reformat your hard drive or anything. It doesn't stop people from busting into your computer through other means.
Title: RE:Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on October 14, 2003, 06:59:10 PM
Quote PEOPLE NOT HELPING THE ORIGINAL POSTER IN THIS THREAD NEED TO VACATE IMMEDIATELY I THINK
Quote WHAT DID I JUST SAY? ARRGHGHHGHH CAN'T YOU SEE I'M TRYING TO MODERATE TH
Quote don't goddamn post unless you're solving this guy's problem
What is wrong with you guys? I'm seriously going to ban the next off-topic person in this thread.
Quote On the bright side since I last deleted it (when I made this topic) it hasn't shown up again. Maybe this time it's gone for good. Doubt it though.
How often do you reboot? Maybe you just needed to update the system settings or what have you.
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 14, 2003, 08:08:38 PM
SUPER, I don't post just to hear myself talk. If I advise someone to do something to their PC, you can be assured that there's a damn good reason for it. In spite of Termin8's unwillingness to accept my help, it would have helped greatly to at least troubleshoot his problems. I would kindly appreciate not being threatened with being banned for trying to help him.
I will continue to do what I do. If you have a problem, ban me. If not, then stand aside and let me do my thing. Because if I am going to have to put up with this from the mods, then I would rather not be here. It's your choice.
Title: RE:Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on October 14, 2003, 08:29:22 PM
He didn't ASK for another browser
Edit: I'm not banning you because I hope we can still be internet e-friends <3, but seriously read -> comprehend -> post in that order, especially if it's hilariously irritated admin warnings
hoep u got 10bux
Title: RE:Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Gibdo Master on October 15, 2003, 11:18:46 AM
Quote Originally posted by: S-U-P-E-R How often do you reboot? Maybe you just needed to update the system settings or what have you.
I shut my computer down whenever I'm done using it for the day. With ME I really can't leave it on for long periods of time before something causes it to freeze up or crash. Hell, it's pretty normal for me to have to reboot at least once a twice a day. The "Links" folder still hasn't shown back up so I don't know what to think. It figures that when I finally try to get some help after deleting the thing over and over again for 2 years it finally stays gone.
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: The Dark Tower on October 15, 2003, 02:08:19 PM
Questions that need to be asked:
How old is the computer? Have you updated any parts of the computer? How's the amount of RAM regarding the processor's acceptible limit?
By the way, I was the one who fixed Knowsnothings computer problem, none of that brother crud, he just does'nt give me credit because none of his aussie buddys like me.
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 15, 2003, 02:27:13 PM
SUPER, this is my last post on this issue, I did read your posts. I promptly ignored them as I don't see anything in the rules about banning people for sending threads minorly off topic in the interests of helping out the person asking for it.
In short, I obey the logical forums rules that everyone must abide by. I don't follow the rules that are made up on the spot, or over-emphasized because of a mod's personal view on the issue. If I were to be banned for my posts in this thread, then I would argue that everyone here who has ever made an off topic post should be banned in the interest of fairness.
Fact of the matter is, I don't think you could justifiably ban me over that. It's true that this is a private server and you can do as you wish. But it's also true that you are held accountable by your readers. Sure banning me wouldn't have much impact overall. But if such actions continued over time?
Anyways, that's my last word on this. I propose that we just drop it now, and try to forget this happened. It's better for all.
Title: RE:Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 15, 2003, 02:46:43 PM
Minorly off topic? The guy asked for help, an only Ty and PIAC actually responded to his question! As much as I hate IE and think everyone should switch, too, if someone ASKS for help with a problem about IE, I HELP him with that problem if I can, not try to score another convert. If you needed help with a problem on your Ford, the last thing you would want would be someone telling you to get a Chevrolet. Maybe Ty was a bit eccentric, since it's not THAT big of a deal, but if you can't answer the guy's question, don't post at all.
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 15, 2003, 02:59:34 PM
Mouse. Answer me this. If you don't get any picture on your TV when you are trying to play your GameCube, what's the first thing you try? Switching TVs?
Title: RE:Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 15, 2003, 03:11:40 PM
I'll ask to get it repaired- if no one can repair it, or the problem persists, I'll change tv brands. But when I ask for help to repair it, I don't want people immediately telling me to get a Sony, or a Panasonic.
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 15, 2003, 03:14:02 PM
But how do you know if the problem is your console or the TV?
Title: RE:Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 15, 2003, 04:34:54 PM
Well, besides the fact this example has strayed from the original problem, I would test out my console on the different TV's I have in my house and I would test out different consoles on the original TV. Either way I'd ty to get the machine repaired before I'll think about an alternative. If your Gamecube had a disc read error would you want to someone suggesting you buy an XBox, assuming it had no such problem (I know it's a stretch, but bear with me ).
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 15, 2003, 04:37:44 PM
But Mouse Clicker, I was suggesting that he try out a different TV. The TV I was suggesting happened to have progressive scan included as a bonus, but really, how else was anyone going to know if it was a problem with his browser or his connection unless someone had already experienced such problems?
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 15, 2003, 04:38:57 PM
I think that was the point Grey was trying to make. You don't know if it's the site of the browser. To see what it is, try out different browsers to see if the problem persists. if it does, then it's the site.
You set yourself up with a perfect example of Grey's point. I think. I didn't read everything.
Oh, and sorry, S-U-P-E-R.
EDIT: Grey beat me too it, even though he was offline at the time AND typed a longer post. Darn my typing skills (or lack there of).
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 15, 2003, 04:48:51 PM
It's just my faster browser KnowsNothing. Don't take it too hard. I have this nice quick reply box, and I am here and browsing the forums in under 5 seconds anyways.
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 15, 2003, 04:51:38 PM
I got quick reply too.
I guess it all comes down to this.....Firebird is teh awesome.
Or you're a faster typer than me.
Or both.
Title: RE:Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 15, 2003, 04:57:56 PM
Ack! Page 2 = off-topic city!
Double Ack! This post is off-topic!
(heh, I'm getting 2 second response with IE )
Quote Originally posted by: Grey Ninja Mouse. Answer me this. If you don't get any picture on your TV when you are trying to play your GameCube, what's the first thing you try? Switching TVs?
1) Mess around with the buttons on the remote 2) Get on knees and pray 3) Kick TV 4) Mess around with inputs 5) Kick TV again 6) TV blows up 7) Realize that the video cable wasn't hooked up 8) Get new TV and entertainment system just for the heck of it
Title: RE:Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 15, 2003, 05:33:48 PM
The point, Ninja, is that the author did NOT ask for alternatives to IE, he asked for help with certain files being interjected in his favorites folder. So why did you even suggest Firebird? He's looking for help with his problem, and only 2 people, out of some 30 or so posts, actually attempted to answer it. I'm saying if *I* had a problem with something, and was asking for help, I want people to HELP me with my problem, not suggest alternatives, If the problem is unfixaable and I deem an alternative necessary, then I'd ASK for it.
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 15, 2003, 07:32:00 PM
Yeah yeah, whatever. I am sick of explaining my motives for trying to help someone. No good deed goes unpunished. I knew that when I started. Now I am sick and fucking tired of this whole thing, and just wish that someone would just get it over with and ban me. If I have to have a half page discussion to explain why I would offer the advice I did, then obviously I have way too high of levels of respect for the other posters here. I shouldn't have to fight with a mod just because he didn't approve of the advice that I gave, and I don't particularly feel like fighting with someone I thought was a "friend" over the same bloody thing.
I am sick and fucking tired of being stabbed in the back for one day.
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Gibdo Master on October 15, 2003, 07:45:30 PM
Everyone does realize that Grey Ninja wasn't the only one suggesting that I switch browsers right? Besides it would have been a perfectly good suggestion if I hadn't already been fully aware of Mozilla and Firebird and had just previously been using them.
Honestly I'm just happy this thing got any replies since usually when I make a topic it goes completely unnoticed.
One more thing. There was just a tad bit of hypocrisy with the whole "don't hijack this thread" thing. I won't name names though.
Title: RE: Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: Ocarina Blue on October 15, 2003, 08:11:00 PM
When I replied, I can assure you that my intentions were of helping Gibdo Master solve his/her (?) problem. Gibdo Master himself just said that it would have been a perfectly good suggestion if it wasn't known to me that he had been previously using Firebird (which it wasn't). I defend posting what I did.
Title: RE:Need Help with IE Favorites
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on October 15, 2003, 09:05:54 PM
This thread is a brainwreck. Hay Gibdo, I'm interested in knowing if that links folder ever comes back from the dead eventually, so message me later aight.