Post by: d_bomb_23 on October 09, 2003, 07:33:01 PM
thx in advance
Post by: akdaman1 on October 09, 2003, 07:44:10 PM
Post by: Molobert on October 09, 2003, 08:01:59 PM
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on October 09, 2003, 08:18:10 PM
Post by: GoldShadow1 on October 09, 2003, 08:34:14 PM
Molobert - Is it really that long? Because I've almost eliminated the first of four columns of the journal, indicating I'm almost 1/4 of the way through, yet I've only played for five hours. Does the journal progress slower later on or something?
Post by: Molobert on October 09, 2003, 08:50:29 PM
Post by: Rob91883 on October 09, 2003, 10:30:05 PM
Post by: Zelda on October 10, 2003, 01:56:08 AM
Post by: GoldShadow1 on October 10, 2003, 07:04:14 AM
Somewhat off topic: I love the GameCube DVD cases! They allow people to store manuals in a convenient place - thus, even used, I usually get a manual in good condition with my games.
Post by: nolimit19 on October 10, 2003, 10:04:59 AM
Post by: Luciferschild on October 10, 2003, 10:58:57 AM
Post by: Cap on October 10, 2003, 11:08:04 AM
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Yea, I think that unless you are using a walkthrough or are rushing through it it would be at least 40 hours. I roamed around a lot and did sidequests, so you might complete it in less time. I don't know about the journal because I never read it, but I can guarantee you're not going to finish it in 20 hours.
i always hear about how long this game is, but i managed to finish in 32 hours.
obviously i didnt complete everything, but i wasnt rushing through the game either.
it is a great game though. if i manage to find the time, i plan on playing through again to try to complete everything.
Post by: NintendoFanGirl on October 10, 2003, 12:16:47 PM
Post by: honda_insightful on October 10, 2003, 12:41:48 PM
For the GameCube, Skies is as good an RPG as you can get.
If you own other systems (PS2 or Box), then skip it.
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 10, 2003, 02:51:50 PM
Post by: Skyman_Welks on October 10, 2003, 03:12:02 PM
I couldn't find any copies anywhere near where I live so I ended up buying it off Amazon.......... hmmm..... anyways, I just received it yesterday!!! I was so excited to add this great game to my library.
Post by: nolimit19 on October 10, 2003, 04:14:23 PM
Post by: BlkPaladin on October 10, 2003, 04:38:52 PM
Post by: Colossus777 on October 10, 2003, 06:53:54 PM
I think that plot was never great, actually, but I must admit, I had a fondness for all the characters that's so rare in RPGs (too often, I find myself hating or not caring about RPG characters). I especially liked that one guy you could get who had 2 guns...and kicked ass...and was loved by the ladies...yeah. I relate to him.
Post by: Urkel on October 10, 2003, 11:42:13 PM
For some reason, this game seems like what FF3 would be like, if it were in 3D. I was surprised by how long this game is. It's probably about 40 hrs if you don't do any of the sidequests, and 50-60+ if you're really thorough. Good stuff.
One of the best RPGs I've ever played.
Post by: oohhboy on October 11, 2003, 06:09:57 AM
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 11, 2003, 06:56:13 AM
oohhhboy, it's a traditional RPG. Combat is turn based, and untimed. The premise of the game is that you are an air pirate who is sucked into a huge adventure. I really don't know how to explain it better than that, but you get to explore a vast world that is very lifelike and is filled with completely awesome scenarios that I don't want to spoil. Some of the parts of this game just make you fall in love with it.
Post by: PIAC on October 11, 2003, 03:37:23 PM
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Originally posted by: honda_insightful
If you own other systems (PS2 or Box), then skip it.
i disagree, allthough i dont have a ps2 or xbawx i know there isn't anything like skies on xbawx so even if you do have an xbawx i would pick this up if you can, i know i have one of only like threehundred released in australia
personally i didn't find hte random battles annoying at all, but they did get a little troublesom when i was flying around looking for discoveries, which is very rewarding mind you, and the wanted battles are excelent, the wanted characters actually level up as you do, so you can't just level your self up to rediculously high levels and totally obliterate them, which i thought was a great idea.
im hanging out for a sequel
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 11, 2003, 03:42:29 PM
Post by: Syl on October 11, 2003, 08:18:28 PM
The overworld map is the best one I've ever seen, for any game, EVER. Its just so HUGE, and it came across perfectly throughout the game, complete with all the little nooks and crannies you can search in for finding more discoveries.
The optional fights are quite difficult if you fight them when theyre first allowed to be fought, which is definately a good thing for me, its very hard to find RPG's that have difficult fights, and this one definately had a few of those.
The characters, though a few are annoying, I actually could relate to them more than most other games I've ever played, even if they were shallow, and the story was VERY cliche, it was a damn good story because of the characters that made it. I'm most likely going to play through this game again very soon, I had 65 hours on it last time, and I want to get Vyse the Legend next time I play through it....
Post by: jromz03 on October 11, 2003, 08:21:43 PM
Post by: PIAC on October 12, 2003, 12:23:35 AM
Post by: Fish on October 12, 2003, 01:18:38 AM
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read the above 23 posts and make the decision for your self, we have offered our personal opinions, only you can make the final decision.
I'm PIAC and I know how to manipulate.
I'm Fish and I don't know how to spell.
Post by: PIAC on October 12, 2003, 01:47:27 AM
Post by: Mario on October 12, 2003, 02:34:00 AM
Post by: oohhboy on October 12, 2003, 02:55:27 AM
Post by: PIAC on October 12, 2003, 03:06:18 AM
it has pirates, PIRATES, doesn't get much better than that
Post by: SuperLink666 on October 12, 2003, 05:09:59 AM
Post by: honda_insightful on October 12, 2003, 05:36:55 AM
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As far as the PS2 is concerned, that's a matter of opinion.
For me, Skies of Arcadia is comparable to Grandia 2 on the PS2... a not-so-great game. If you own a PS2, there are better investments like Final Fantasy 10, Kingdom Hearts, Xenosaga... or even older psone classics like Chrono Cross. Buy these games first before you buy Arcadia.
If all you own is a Cube, then Arcadia is the best you can get.
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Also for how it plays, it's your standard turn-based RPG. Enemies on one side... you on the other side... each taking turns hitting each other. The only twist on this formula is that the characters move around on screen to make the animations a little more exciting.
The story is okay I suppose, but rather sparse.
The voice-acting is quite annoying (one word phrases like "Yeah!" or "Right on!"... probably due to the Dreamcast's limited CD space). Silence would have been better.
And the random battles are exceedingly boring.
(On second thought, even the mediocre Grandia 2 is better than Skies of Arcadia.)
Post by: The All Knowing Lung on October 12, 2003, 07:17:36 AM
Even if it's no improvement over the old version, I would still recomend it.
Post by: KDR_11k on October 12, 2003, 08:04:12 AM
The battle system is standard turn based stuff. Only real twist is the SP-bar: You accumulate Spirit Points each turn, those are used to cast spells and special attacks. However, there is ony one SP-bar, but four characters, meaning you have to decide whether to use that big overkill attack or rather healing your party.
As always, stat changes and spells are utterly useless, you should rather use a special attack instead of a spell. There are death spells, but those only seem to work when the enemy is using them against you, any enemy you can't kill in two hits is immune against that kind of spell...
Air battles are radically different: You get a 4x4 grid, each column representing a phase in the next turn. Each phase has an indicator how strong the enemy attack will be and both you and the enemy can do one attack/spell/defend/whatever per phase. They are a nice change because the sheer number of random encounters quickly makes you sick of the standard battles.
I think it took me 48 hours to go through (Grandia 2: 28, the last ten of which were not as good as the rest).
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 12, 2003, 09:04:20 AM
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Hahaha. I think I will get it next package. NoT chrono trigger styles is it? I hated the positioning system making half the spells useless.
Ummm... WTF? It sounds to me that you are not describing Chrono Trigger? Can you please explain?
Post by: >X< Kitten >X< on October 12, 2003, 11:41:09 AM
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I'm most likely going to play through this game again very soon, I had 65 hours on it last time, and I want to get Vyse the Legend next time I play through it....
I would have never gotten Vyse The Legend without a guide. I HIGHLY suggest you use one, for the treasure chests especially, since you need ALL of them to get that title.
Edit: Oh yeah SoA:L is a great game. One of the best games I've ever played. Excellent storyline, good gameplay, and, uh... Ramirez is hot.
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 12, 2003, 12:13:14 PM
Post by: Syl on October 12, 2003, 02:27:37 PM
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or me, Skies of Arcadia is comparable to Grandia 2 on the PS2... a not-so-great game. If you own a PS2, there are better investments like Final Fantasy 10, Kingdom Hearts, Xenosaga... or even older psone classics like Chrono Cross. Buy these games first before you buy Arcadia.
I put Skies of arcadia before all of those games mentioned (I haven't played through kingdom hearts though, to be honest) but below Chrono Trigger/FF3(VI)
its my 2nd fave RPG, chrono trigger is the best, FF7 is up there along with it. Xenogears is also very good.
Chrono Cross on the other hand, utter crap compared to CT. I'm sorry, but they just removed everything htat was good about the first game and went overboard making it worse. (its not ALL horrible, just crap compared to CT)
Skies is an aquired taste i guess, and as much as i hated the system, it was better than FF8/xenosaga/chrono cross etc.
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 12, 2003, 02:40:38 PM
Post by: honda_insightful on October 12, 2003, 05:31:27 PM
So IMHO, Skies is not that great. It's not bad either. It's just so-so.
Post by: Sir Pinch-a-Loaf on October 13, 2003, 10:11:14 AM
2) It's only $10 at Best Buy.
So to me, that says "MUST BUY!" That is, if I didn't already have it......
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on October 13, 2003, 10:59:27 AM
Post by: oohhboy on October 13, 2003, 06:03:07 PM
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Hahaha. I think I will get it next package. NoT chrono trigger styles is it? I hated the positioning system making half the spells useless.
Ummm... WTF? It sounds to me that you are not describing Chrono Trigger? Can you please explain?
What are you on about? Remeber when you went into battle with multiple monsters as you fought them in real time hey would move around the screen and then there would be attacks that attacked in a straight line damaging everybody between the player and the target monsters. You knew which monsters were going to get hurt because every time you looked up an attack it would come up with a bunch of arrows showing you who was going to be damaged. I really, really didn't like this at all. Verging on hate. This system made more than half the spells useless as the monster were never in position to use them and certin spells like the one that horizontally went from left ro right on the screen damaging everything in the line of attack, was only useful for that boss that came up alittle after you aquired that spell.
Bisicly it came down to this. Use the line of attack spells which you couldn't use most of the time which its only advantage was that it had lower mana cost than area spells which hit everyone but factoring in the number of monsters hit/killed in one hit by an area spell compared to a line of attack spell, the area hit spell wins as you would only use area spells when there were more than 3 monsters as that was as many weapon based attack you could perform on average at any given time.
Althought to give Chrono Trigger some credit I did like the combo system
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 13, 2003, 06:11:46 PM
The thing about the directional attacks is that they aren't supposed to hit every enemy on the screen. That's why they are cheaper to use. I found that since the enemies moved around all the time, the directional attacks would often be an economical solution to hit 2 enemies at once. Really, those spells really were only meant to tide you over until you got to the uber-spells like Luminaire, Bolt 3, Fire 3, Ice 3, etc though.
Post by: oohhboy on October 13, 2003, 06:27:33 PM
