Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Mannypon on September 27, 2003, 06:38:30 PM
Title: Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: Mannypon on September 27, 2003, 06:38:30 PM
I was readin over at the ny post bs thread and noticed somethin that nolimit19 had posted. He mentioned bout the rumor of apple and nintendo, and up until now I hadnt even heard of this. I went to the link he provided (http://homepage.mac.com/planetpm/macgamecube/first.html) and read the page and I'm sold lol. I'm suprised I havent seen a discussion on this here yet ( I dont know though, I didnt do a search but I check up in the forums daily and never once seen anything of the such) Basically I think this is highly possible and just starting this up to put yous on to the rumor ( if you havent been put on already) like nolimit19 did for me lol and to propperly start a discussion.
Title: RE:Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 27, 2003, 07:01:22 PM
I didn't even think it was a rumor anymore...Hmmmm...I honestly don't care who Ninty goes with as long as their next system doesn't look like the ugly things that Apple makes
Title: RE: Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: Mannypon on September 27, 2003, 07:34:34 PM
I dont know, I dont find apple's designs to be that ugly lol. Their encasing and all that look nice though. Also that gaming system apple made shown in that page call pippin or somethin like that, dont remember, didnt look that bad for its time (96 or 98 dont remember the yr either lol)
Title: RE:Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: Yuji Miyamoto on September 27, 2003, 08:04:01 PM
never. you will not like the future. microsoft & nintendo make a system together in 2005. believe it.
Title: RE: Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: Mannypon on September 27, 2003, 08:26:59 PM
I've heard that rumor alot too and it makes some sence too but as of right now, I'm standin by the apple rumor just by the effort thats been put in to that site to actually prove the point. All Ive seen on the microsofl nintendo rumor have been forum debates.
Title: RE: Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: KDR_11k on September 27, 2003, 08:42:57 PM
Yuji: I just HOPE that was sarcasm. If you need counterproof, look up the old threads about that topic. No point in discussing that here again.
This sounds good, though I probably can't afford a Mac anyway.
Title: RE:Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: Yuji Miyamoto on September 27, 2003, 08:59:17 PM
Im sorry, what i meant to say was that microsoft and nintendo WILL make a console together in 2010, not 2005.
Title: RE: Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: Mannypon on September 27, 2003, 09:02:55 PM
will is a very strong word, and I dont see anything really backin that up at the moment, besides, you never know what will happen from on till 2010. Microsoft by that time might not even be interested in the video game business, who knows.
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Post by: animex on September 27, 2003, 09:58:29 PM
bleh m$hit is 64y. i would love to see apple n ninty team up together. they can make a great team!
Title: RE:Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on September 28, 2003, 03:27:10 AM
Well didnt IBM make cubes chip sets wich is a 400MHZ Apple processor, so cube is already using Apple chipsets, IMO Macintosh's are great so much fun with them.
Title: RE:Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: Berny on September 28, 2003, 06:37:23 AM
Grey Ninja, you have yet to make some derogatory or demeaning comment towards Apple. I'm dissapointed in you.
Quote they want sleek "sexy" gadgets (like Apple's).
I never thought about it but the GBA SP does look Mac's G4 laptop. In my opinion, this is a good deal for both Nintendo and Apple. They are both considered "The Little Guy" in their respective markets and the two of them would make a lot of news. iNES5 will rock. Rock with a built in MODEM! I just remembered that that's why they call it the iMac. The built in MODEM! Crap, if this does happen, it had better not be too expensive....
Title: RE:Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: Yuji Miyamoto on September 28, 2003, 07:26:45 PM
this should make things clear. nintendo loves IBM. IBM hates mac. Microsoft and IBM have also had working releationships. mac and nintendo? NEVER
Title: RE:Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: nolimit19 on September 28, 2003, 07:40:47 PM
well i when i read the article it made me think. and i dont know who nintendo will team up with for their next console and handheld, but the point is that they NEED to in order to stay competitive. whether it is apple, or panisonic, or samsung or whatever. they need to get a partner to make a system that is on equal grounds with the ps3 and xbox2. i like the possiblity of apple working with nintendo on their next handheld and panisonic working with them on their next console. similar to the Q this generation. if nintendo had launched the Q in the us against the ps2 and xbox, i think we would be looking at very different sales numbers. VERY different.
Title: RE:Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: RABicle on September 28, 2003, 08:39:20 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Yuji Miyamoto this should make things clear. nintendo loves IBM. IBM hates mac. Microsoft and IBM have also had working releationships. mac and nintendo? NEVER
You are a shitbag who obviously knows nothing at all and should just tape your moth shut. IBM hate mac do they? how come the two have been working togethor on the Power PC chip since 1995? Thats a lot of trust for companies that hate each other. Apples G5 chips are made, right at IBM's big manufacturing plant. IBM and Microsoft have had working relationships have they? Yeah sure they did, back in the seventies. IBM got really annoyed with Microsoft back in the eighties and developed their own operating system, OS 2 Warp, unfourtunatly it never took off and IBM had to go back to packaging Windows to turn a profit.
yes the whole idea sounds quite convincing and as a Macintosh/Nintendo fanboy I'll go crazy if it's confirmed.
Title: RE:Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: ThePerm on September 28, 2003, 09:13:27 PM
yuji miyamato is new...so he's obviously not gonna be right all the time. Of course IBM is the people who design PowerPC processors(the processors that Macs have) and have a great relationship with apple. MS and IBM had a working relationship in the dos days but that fell thorugh a hole a long time ago. IBM makes Warp OS for Networks and their own supercomputers and makes processors for apple along with motorolla.
as far as operating systems go...well lately iv used both extensively...and Mac is becoming morel ike windows, and widnows is becoming more like mac with each respective software release. Whatr peopel really want is a really good hybrid. Im very used to both but there are things i like in one OS and don't like in another. I wish there was an interface everyoen could agree upon...a few years from now both OS will be very similar or even mroe radically different...but both more user friendly. Heres an idea....being able to change the layout default rapidly for your pending need. Macs are great for graphics...their layout makes the graphic work load faster(aside from the no default right clicking) and windows is great for programing...imagine if there was like a button you could click and it would change your sets and programs really quickly to suit your needs.....ill design it and sell it ...now i can animate it in flash too
Title: RE:Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: BigJim on September 28, 2003, 10:53:51 PM
Just finished reading the article... the Nintendo/Apple tie-ins are very weak. There isn't anything that Apple does that Nintendo needs. Apple largely doesn't even fabricate their own hardware components, and Nintendo doesn't need Apple to make something "elegant."
Title: RE: Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: oohhboy on September 29, 2003, 08:20:59 AM
yuji miyamato maybe wrong, but for the love of the like itself, no one should be that bloody wrong. Almost another 550man wrong.
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Post by: Glassjaw on September 29, 2003, 07:44:02 PM
I read the article and I must say there are many similarities (more than 20) between this whole Nintendo and Apple thing. One thing this guy left out was when Apple released its power mac G4's, Apple came up with a smaller cubed shape version almost looking exactly like the gamecube. (http://www.kemplar.com/apple_cube_ts.htm) It seems that this maybe more then just a simple rumor but something larger that has yet to be announced. Its quite strange adding up all the similarities between the two. You have to admit though, out of all the American companies that Nintendo could join forces with, Apple seems to be a perfect partner against Microsoft and Sony.
Title: RE:Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: BigJim on September 29, 2003, 09:45:08 PM
That's just another weak similarity that doesn't add up to anything tangible. I still don't see anything here. Apple doesn't have anything Nintendo needs.
Title: RE: Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: Mannypon on September 29, 2003, 09:57:06 PM
weak or not, they are too many of them to just be a coincidence. Besides, I think apple has basically the same to offer nintendo as microsoft would in a partnership besides the money microsoft has (which IMO nintendo doesnt even need since they have an ass load of money and I dont know bout apple, but I think its safe to say they are financially stable) Also, apple I think can be trusted moreso than microsoft in a partnership. All I can see right now is that if nintendo is goin to partner with anyone. Apple is lookin to be more likely than anyone else from what I can see unless someone else can show me ( and many others ) otherwise.
Title: RE:Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: animex on September 29, 2003, 10:17:29 PM
Next Ninty Console: iCube Next Ninty Handheld: iBoy ^_^
Title: RE: Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: Mannypon on September 30, 2003, 12:37:04 AM
dam, why'd this get sent to fast foward? I can see how the topic basically falls under fast foward but its not goin to get nearly as much as attention here lol. the ms and nintendo boards are still in the gamecube discussion section, dam, apple aint gettin no love. Maybe its been put here in an attempt to get less talk time in the forums since we touchin onto somethin we shouldnt be lol, makes you wonder lol.
Title: RE:Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: BigJim on September 30, 2003, 07:23:04 PM
That conspiracy theory is as bad as the Nintendo/Apple one.
Title: RE: Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: Mannypon on September 30, 2003, 09:40:16 PM
lol, I know but dam lol, hate it when this happens lol, its practically crippling the potential of this topic now that its been put in here lol. Wost thing bout it is that the microsoft and nintendo topics are still over in the gamecube discussion section lol, it burns lol.
Title: RE:Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: The Omen on October 02, 2003, 01:14:51 PM
Quote IBM and Microsoft have had working relationships have they? Yeah sure they did, back in the seventies. IBM got really annoyed with Microsoft back in the eighties and developed their own operating system, OS 2 Warp, unfourtunatly it never took off and IBM had to go back to packaging Windows to turn a profit.
Get ready to poop your pants, because over at Spong.com, they're reporting that MS and IBM are hard at work on the chipset for Xbox 2. Of course, Spong is a load of garbage, but its worth mentioning.
Title: RE: Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: KDR_11k on October 02, 2003, 10:54:58 PM
Just because IBM doesn't like MS that doesn't mean they'd turn down a well-paying customer. Or at least they HOPE MS will pay.
Title: RE:Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on October 09, 2003, 12:19:34 PM
Ahh IBM and Microsoft i wonder if it turns into another Microsoft and Nvida
Title: RE:Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: Galford on October 23, 2003, 12:50:44 PM
I really can't see Nintendo pairing up with Apple. Why??? Apple doesn't have anything that Nintendo needs.(Many people have previously said this)
Apple designs very little of it's own hardware. In fact, I believe they only design the chipsets which are used in various Apple computers. Beyond that everything else is a third party design. Nintendo has NEC/ATI to help design it's next console, why would Nintendo part with them to Apple who knows nothing about console design...
Title: RE: Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: manunited4eva22 on October 27, 2003, 12:24:31 PM
You want a coincendence, IBM is business partners with about 8 other companies who produce hardware. Honestly, IBM is a massive company and are basically in control of almost all Apple Hardware. The chipset, everything is designed by IBM engineers, with a few Apple guys adding in a few apple only things.
Apple is not a hardware company like Nintendo would need, you are looking in the wrong direction on this one. How can apple be trusted in a partnership? How do you think Jobs got where he is today, he is every bit as a cut throat business man as every other fortune 500 company leader. Besides, what is apple going to provide for Nintendo? Other than what the Mac freaks will tell you, they design a very strict software base, mostly around user friendly products and music/audio production.
How is Apple a 'perfect partner' anyway. Apple just got overtaken by Linux for the second most OS used, thats not exactly highly competitive, and Apple has almost always been lacking in speed. Apple is a very niche product, very very niche at that, and honestly they are not ready to take a stab at Microsoft for the forseable future, Nintendo is not just quite ready to throw in the towel, not when they have the opportunity to get it all back.
Now lets get onto the shape crap, wow, that isn't even worth talking about. Take a class on marketing, you will see that shapes influence peoples thoughts, it is a basic marketing strategy. The fact that two companies do similar things shouldn't come as a surprise, or a sign for that matter, at all.
I've had enough for one day/end rant
Title: RE: Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: Bartman3010 on November 15, 2003, 02:53:17 AM
DIdnt macs have a PSX emulator come with one of their machines? It'd be funny if the system could run GCN games.
Title: RE:Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: The Omen on January 04, 2004, 07:32:27 AM
I keep hearing this rumor. My PC know it all friend thinks its happening. He says MS was trying to prevent it by offering Nintendo a partnership, thus stifling APPLEs chance to join forces with NIN and get deeper in the games market. Come to think of it, maybe thats where the MS/Nintendo rumor started as well...At any rate, i cant see why NIN would do it, although its obvious why Apple would want to. It seems something is definately being talked about. I just hope the big N stays solo.
Title: RE: Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: Berny on January 04, 2004, 01:54:30 PM
This could also mean Ninty games on the pooter. I don't want that. Someone will steal them and make it work on anything and then burn it on a cd and play it on their PS3 or YBox.
Title: RE: Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: Guitar Smasher on January 05, 2004, 09:57:20 AM
I believe this has already happened thanks to roms and emulators.
Title: RE: Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: Berny on January 05, 2004, 01:35:45 PM
Yes, but those are illegal. And Ninty games are so much better on Ninty systems.
Title: RE:Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: mgcman on January 18, 2004, 02:31:31 AM
MacGameCube.com summarizes the potential partnership as follows: Nintendo needs Apple's networking, computer, and software expertise, access to Apple's expansive Unix (game) developer community, ability to drive industry standards, ability to sell more of their games, help dispelling the reputation of being "a kiddie system", ability in dealing with Microsoft, and Apple's Pixar/Disney connection.
Title: RE: Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: Renny on January 18, 2004, 06:52:21 AM
Hoo boy, that site is a laugh-and-a-half. Good stuff.
Of course I agree with this:
The bottom line is that Apple and Nintendo are a match made in heaven....
Dream we shall.
Title: RE:Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: BigJim on January 18, 2004, 10:13:51 AM
Nintendo "needs" none of the above... the conspiracy theories were already batted down earlier in the thread.
Title: RE:Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: Guitar Smasher on January 18, 2004, 12:44:02 PM
Quote Originally posted by: BigJim Nintendo "needs" none of the above... the conspiracy theories were already batted down earlier in the thread.
"Conspiracy" ??? Someone watches too much T.V.
Title: RE:Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: BigJim on January 18, 2004, 09:48:08 PM
Quote "Conspiracy" ??? Someone watches too much T.V.
That's what I think about those that think an Nintendo/Apple combo is legit with nothing more than fact stretching and coincidences to substantiate it.
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Post by: manunited4eva22 on January 20, 2004, 12:10:41 PM
Unix game developing community? There are games developed for Unix?
Title: RE: Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: KDR_11k on January 21, 2004, 05:35:36 AM
Well, anything compatible with any *nix could be called a Unix game, so... Wasn't Quake 3 released for Linux first?
Title: RE: Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: manunited4eva22 on January 21, 2004, 12:46:26 PM
I have no idea, so lets just say one.
Title: RE: Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: KDR_11k on January 22, 2004, 02:20:13 AM
Err... I've seen Linux versions of a LOT of popular games. UT2003 comes with one on the third disk.
Title: RE: Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: Ocarina Blue on January 22, 2004, 02:35:29 AM
Bioware and Id, to name a few developers, both support Linux. Linux support is growing, and it has a few good games, but it's still nowhere near as large as Win32.
Title: RE: Apple & Nintendo in the sack???
Post by: manunited4eva22 on January 22, 2004, 11:17:51 AM
They are always ports though, that is the point. How many copies do dedicated linux or in this case Mac games sell? If they break 20,000 they are a success. Mac nor Linux (which is irrelevent here) rarely sell.
Hell the only mac only series that even has a reputation is Marathon just because Halo was so big.