Post by: Top Ramen on September 25, 2003, 01:50:24 AM
http://cube.ign.com/articles/451/451351p1.html
What's messed up is Cube is actually still about 500k units worldwide ahead of Xbox yet the PERCEPTION throughout the media and market is what's causing this. Eidos wasn't a big loss, but Atari publishes some good games. This is a shame. Boo!
Top Ramen
Post by: ChesterDrawz on September 25, 2003, 02:05:50 AM
Post by: Top Ramen on September 25, 2003, 02:29:47 AM
http://www.gamespy.com/icfj/september03/import7/
Post by: Gup on September 25, 2003, 02:48:09 AM
Post by: PIAC on September 25, 2003, 02:50:10 AM
Post by: ChesterDrawz on September 25, 2003, 03:47:20 AM
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Originally posted by: Top Ramen
Current worldwide sales numbers:
http://www.gamespy.com/icfj/september03/import7/
Yeah this is true, but the point I'm making is that to a game producer it's more important where a console is selling than how much it sells worldwide. As the charts in that link show the Cube is strong in Japan and a good third place in the US and Europe, but 3rd place is 3rd place and with game production costs spiralling the 3rd place system is the port that gets dropped first when costs have to be cut.
Long term, the difference is whether MS is willing to risk buying it's way into the Japanese market (probably true, at least until the XBox 2 succeeds or fails over there), and whether Nintendo can persuade 3rd party producers to keep making titles for the Cube outside Japan until the Cube 2 (depends on a change in attitude).
Post by: AgentSeven on September 25, 2003, 01:20:10 PM
Atari will be out of business in less than a year. Some analysts say 6 months.
Also, I would love a one on one debate with Matt Cassima or any other morons over at IGN.CUBE.
Their only job is trash Nintendo (and Sega) and to praise their $ony masters.
Post by: thecubedcanuck on September 25, 2003, 01:46:16 PM
Post by: AgentSeven on September 25, 2003, 02:05:05 PM
Hey canadian, how many game systems to you own? I have over 30 from just about every company in the business. How am I a fanboy again? IGN sucks, it's a fact.
As for Atari, many industry insiders and business analysts expect Atari to be out of business in a year or less. It's the truth.
Post by: Cap on September 25, 2003, 04:14:10 PM
to be honest though, i'm not aware of many atari published games on gamecube. i own ikaruga which is published by atari, but i cant think of any others. the only game i was really interested in in those titles was driver3, but its not a good thing for the gamecube to keep losing third party games.
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 25, 2003, 04:19:55 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on September 25, 2003, 06:46:38 PM
Driver 3, I could care less about. IMO, Atari did the right thing by not bringing it to GCN. I can't speak for all GameCube owners, but I would like to think that we wouldn't really jump at the chance to play a GTA style game. I would hope that it's not the type of game we would like to play.
Post by: Bloodworth on September 25, 2003, 06:50:14 PM
Post by: NintendoFanGirl on September 25, 2003, 07:39:13 PM
Anyway, it appears Mission Impossible Operation Surma will still make it to the Cube, just not Driver 3 and that other game.
Post by: Grey Ninja on September 25, 2003, 07:55:47 PM
Please?
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 25, 2003, 07:58:19 PM
Post by: Undisclosed on September 25, 2003, 09:11:41 PM
didn't Agent7 just mention something about Nintendo using re-writable carts in one of his other threads? It was a throw away comment, but now a few weeks later, we hear about this Chinese Nintendo console that uses whatelse, "re-writable" carts! Didn't he also mention a sequel to final fantasy 7 like 6 months ago?
Strange.
Post by: WesDawg on September 25, 2003, 10:07:38 PM
As for analysts saying that Atari is dead, they're the same analysts that have declaring the doom of Nintendo for the past 2 years. They're usually wrong. Atari has also died what seems like 10 or 15 times in the past 2 decades, but the name just won't leave. It's to precious a piece of gaming history. Nintendo should buy them and name their next system something like the Nintendo Atari 2600-2.
Post by: Bloodworth on September 25, 2003, 10:15:42 PM
This is all he had to say. The rest of the post was needless trash-talking, and he's decided to reveal that he's been banned before for the same reasons. Keep in mind that if I take the time to warn you, I'm not going to be patient with you ignoring that warning.
Post by: Plugabugz on September 26, 2003, 12:40:46 AM
I haven't actually seen any Atari games I like at this stage (Enter The Matrix was a large disappointment).
If there is one, I'll buy one. But I have yet to see one.
Post by: ChesterDrawz on September 26, 2003, 12:50:10 AM
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Originally posted by: Undisclosed
I think agent7 is correct. Atari's days are numbered.
didn't Agent7 just mention something about Nintendo using re-writable carts in one of his other threads? It was a throw away comment, but now a few weeks later, we hear about this Chinese Nintendo console that uses whatelse, "re-writable" carts! Didn't he also mention a sequel to final fantasy 7 like 6 months ago?
Strange.
He's right that Atari are in trouble, but I doubt they are going to disappear altogether:
- They just signed an exclusive deal to be the U.S. jewel case distributor for select Windows titles developed by Microsoft Game Studios until June 2006.
- They publish the awful but incredibly best-selling Enter the Matrix (still in the US PS2 top 10 titles as of August) and the much better Neverwinter Nights and Unreal Tournament.
- Atari's income this year is going to be at least 100% higher than last year, maybe even 150% higher. They are still in difficulties, but they are heading in the right direction.
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 26, 2003, 03:21:31 AM
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Originally posted by: Undisclosed
I think agent7 is correct. Atari's days are numbered.
didn't Agent7 just mention something about Nintendo using re-writable carts in one of his other threads? It was a throw away comment, but now a few weeks later, we hear about this Chinese Nintendo console that uses whatelse, "re-writable" carts! Didn't he also mention a sequel to final fantasy 7 like 6 months ago?
Strange.
Post by: Bartman3010 on September 27, 2003, 04:18:41 AM
Post by: KnowsNothing on September 27, 2003, 05:55:23 AM
I never really was a fan of Atari. I don't folow many of their games, and I'm not sure if I own any (probably do though).
That is the end of my useless post. Goodnight!
Post by: KDR_11k on September 27, 2003, 09:01:06 PM
Post by: Qbric on October 10, 2003, 09:59:19 PM
Anyway, it seems like with all the games that use the unreal engine that'd Atari would be maiking some money, so what gives?
P.S. How do I get webspace for my avatar? I don't want to suffer banage, nor do I want to post w/o my nifty avatar! Oy, the pains of this world!
Post by: KDR_11k on October 10, 2003, 11:23:32 PM
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Post by: KDR_11k on October 12, 2003, 08:26:48 PM
Post by: Mario on October 12, 2003, 08:33:49 PM
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At least once the Cube overtakes the XBox.
Heh, i dont see that happening.
Post by: Rich on October 12, 2003, 08:50:47 PM
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