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Title: Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: MagicToenail on September 22, 2003, 12:23:05 PM
IMO, RUSH and Joe and Mac should be remade no questions asked.
I know alot of people think that Kid Icarus should be, but ive never played it.
Title: RE:Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 22, 2003, 12:33:29 PM
Ah a fellow Rush fan  A friend and I loved to play 2049 and try to get all the silver coins.  Lots of fun.

I also want Kid Icarus(it's good, trust me ) and of course Gunstar Heroes!  Where are you Treasure!?
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on September 22, 2003, 07:21:01 PM
Oh man, San Francisco Rush was a brilliant game. I would die for a remake on the Cube. And by die, I mean pay money. Rush 2 was quite cool, too. I quite enjoyed the very annoying stunt mode.
*Drives off a ramp, lands on roof, explodes, repeats for hours. Even longer in 2-player*

I'd also die (pay money) for a Gunstar Heroes remake. Great bloody co-op.
And where's Sparkster, Konami? BRING HIM BACK.
Title: RE: Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Grey Ninja on September 22, 2003, 08:01:55 PM
I want to see Ninja Gaiden restored to its former glory on GameCube, as the gamers requested on a poll on Tecmo.com a long time ago.  (For those who don't know/remember GameCube won by a landslide in a poll asking what system Ninja Gaiden should be brought to.)  I don't mean a port of the disgrace that is the XBox game, but one that is actually in the same vein as the NES games.

But you know what?  I would KILL to see Metal Gear 1 and 2 be brought to GameCube.  Those games just never get the credit they deserve.  (Metal Gear: Snake's Revenge is better forgotten).
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Post by: AgentSeven on September 22, 2003, 08:23:20 PM
I'm glad to hear that you guys love Rush 2049.  My friends and I played the death match non-stop.
We even had a small tournament in which, one of the 8 participants, made trophies for the top 3 winners.  The 1st place trophy was a race car, the 2nd place was a 1970's muscle car and the 3rd place trophy was an ambulance.

As for re-makes, here goes:

Final Fantasy 7, w/ multi player options
Super Punch Out
Excite-Bike (in an exageratted, cartoonish style)
San Francisco Rush 2049
Toy Commander
Super Mario RPG (I bet the original shows up on GBA)
Pilotwings
R.C. Pro Am
A decent four player Tetris
Kid Icarus
CastleVania:Symphony of the Night
Hogan's Alley/Duck Hunt/Super Scope 6
Phantasy Star 4
The Legendary Axe (NEC is back in gaming, who knows)
Magician Lord
A 2-D Sonic the Hedgehog (or pseudo 3-d)
Tempest 2000

There's so many more, I don't want to go on forever...
Title: RE: Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: GoldShadow1 on September 22, 2003, 09:41:49 PM
Do you mean sequels or remakes?  Because I tire of remakes.  Unless it's the original Metal Gear (which, actually, would be morel like a brand new game), like Grey Ninja suggested, I don't really want a remake.  In fact, I don't even want sequels.  I want brand new, very original and innovative games.
Title: RE:Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Infernal Monkey on September 22, 2003, 10:56:34 PM
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Originally posted by: AgentSeven

Toy Commander
...


Toy Commander was awesome. It did REALLY bad, sales wise though. Just like every other innovative game out there.
A remake would be cool, but I wouldn't be surprised if Sega ignores this one for the rest of eternity...
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Post by: Ocarina Blue on September 23, 2003, 02:55:13 AM
Mario 64... I know it's only the last generation, but it was at the start, and I really think better grapics and sound could add alot of atmosphere to the title. Also, the stars could all be jumbled up so people who have played it over and over again still have a challenge while retaining the feel of the title.
Title: RE:Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 23, 2003, 03:36:24 AM
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Originally posted by: Infernal Monkey
I would die for a remake on the Cube. And by die, I mean pay money.


Seems you die a lot

Ninja: Yeah I remember that(NG winning on the GC)  That REALLY ticked me off
Title: RE: Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Round Eye on September 23, 2003, 05:36:03 AM
The original Metal Gear would be a cool remake, running around in a 3d box would be priceless.  Thats actually the Metal Gear I thought SK was going to remake, for awhile I was happy.

An updated Punch out would be a blast.  

Ninja Gaiden would be sweet as well, hopefully the succes of Viewtifull Joe will bring about a second renasaince for 2D platformers.  

And a remake of the original Mario Bros.  that was the game that got me into the NES in the first place, "The graphics are just like the arcade!"  said me back in the day.  Maybe MB 128 will be akin to that, fingers crossed.

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Post by: KDR_11k on September 23, 2003, 08:18:10 AM
I want a "remake" of Donkey Kong. Well, remake in the way the SGB game was a remake of the arcade one (100 levels, more moves, etc). Just give me different levels than in DK SGB and I'm happy.
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Post by: Rich on September 23, 2003, 06:14:31 PM
I dont know about you guys, but one of my favorite games ever, was Goldeneye for the N64. Better graphics and sound could do so much for that game. I remember an arguement in one of my Nintendo Power magazines in which writers were debating the importance of good graphics, and Goldeneye was brought up saying how many units it sold even though it had some of the worst graphics ever, and even though I didn't mind the original graphics I think if they were updated to the level of Nightfire it would add so much.  
Title: RE:Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: BlackTiger89 on September 23, 2003, 06:47:10 PM
I cant think of the name of it, but it was that game where you shot the pheseasnts or geese or whatever they were and you had like a little gun that you hooked up to your NES. Does anyone know what im talkin about? I LOVED that gmae and i think if they re-made it, it would be a big hit.
Title: RE:Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 23, 2003, 06:57:23 PM
Could it be the legendary Duck Hunt?

(And they were mallards, a kind of duck)
Title: RE:Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: BlackTiger89 on September 23, 2003, 07:14:04 PM
Yeah it was Duck Hunt. How could i forget? But anywayz, i was only like 4  when that game came out and it was one of the only ones that was easy enuff for me to play so it just became my favorite game. The only reason i missed NES was because of that game. They should also re-make Mario Tennis from N64. I've seen screen shots for it and im pretty sure it will eventually come out on GC, but what the hell is taking so long?!
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Post by: ghostVi on September 24, 2003, 01:49:41 AM
Talking about Duck Hunt ... you might find it silly, but... me, playing Metroid Prime, found it fun shooting at the birds in the sky in Choso Ruins The Power Beam seems to work best for me (it's fast).
Title: RE:Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Top Ramen on September 25, 2003, 01:55:28 AM
All I have to say is: Bionic Commando, by Retro Studios.

Top Ramen
Title: RE: Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Undisclosed on September 25, 2003, 08:58:49 PM
Bionic Command would rule!

Agt 7, that's quite a list of neat games.

Toy Commander was so cool.  It's a natural for Game Cube.
Title: RE:Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Rancid Planet on September 25, 2003, 09:25:27 PM
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island.


It could be a great 2-D platformer for the cube. All that needs to be done is to give the graphics a Viewtiful Joe makeover and BAM...big money.
Title: RE:Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Infernal Monkey on September 26, 2003, 01:54:37 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill
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Originally posted by: Infernal Monkey
I would die for a remake on the Cube. And by die, I mean pay money.


Seems you die a lot


*Dies*

Oh, but it's okay. I have unlimited lives at the moment. And by unlimited lives, I mean a can of drink. *Tries to drink it while doing a barrel roll*
Title: RE:Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Top Ramen on September 27, 2003, 03:50:15 AM
Talk about a remake I've been saying they should make for years...Bonk's Adventure returns!

http://cube.ign.com/articles/451/451951p1.html

Top Ramen
Title: RE:Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Marcus Arillius on September 27, 2003, 03:59:51 AM
Remakes:
Beavis and Butthead
Sonic and Knuckles
Sonic 3
All Final Fantasies
All LoZ's
Title: RE:Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Top Ramen on September 27, 2003, 06:46:03 AM
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Originally posted by: Grey Ninja
I don't mean a port of the disgrace that is the XBox game, but one that is actually in the same vein as the NES games.
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You MUST be crazy. Ninja Gaiden is looking fantastic, and exponentially superior to the botched ressurection of Shinobi. Surely leagues beyond Tenchu 3. I just hope it makes Xmas and doesn't slip into 2004. I don't care what system Tecmo would have made it for, it looks tight and definately a pre-order for me. It's going to have the original three Ninja Gaidens as bonuses included as well which is cool. I hope the new one includes some great cinema scenes in the spirit of those that made the original such a classic.

Top Ramen
Title: RE: Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Grey Ninja on September 27, 2003, 07:50:29 AM
Top Ramen, have you ever played the NES games?  If you have, watch some Ninja Gaieden (Xbox) trailers.  Did you know that Tecmo originally intended the game to be a generic Ninja Game, but the execs demanded that the name be changed to "Ninja Gaiden" for marketting reasons?

It's a disgrace for the same reason that Chrono Cross was.  It contains virtually nothing in common with the previous games of the same name.
Title: RE: Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Caliban on September 27, 2003, 07:57:26 AM
I have said this many times and will say it again: Faxanadu should be remade for the gamecube.
Title: RE: Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Caliban on September 27, 2003, 08:01:30 AM
Edit: How do I delete a double post?
Title: RE:Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: InSaNe_Skillz on September 27, 2003, 04:28:24 PM
Hrrmm...games that need to be re-made for the gamecube...let me think....
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-Super Mario Rpg (Oh yeah! With awesome graphics!)
-Chrono Trigger (So cool, So cool!)
-A sequel to Chrono Cross (although not a re-make, this game needs to be done. Cross was so awesome!)
-Seiken Densetsu 3


--------------------------

Those are the ones that I really want right now.
Title: RE:Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 27, 2003, 04:34:40 PM
I just thought of the best thing from a quote from Square...

The reason that Square is not making a remake of FFVII is because you can already play FFVII on the PS2...But you can't on the GC! hehe...*wink wink*
Title: RE: Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Infernal Monkey on September 28, 2003, 01:26:41 AM
Bubble Bobble also needs a freakin' remake. DAMN YOU TAITO, STOP USING BUB AND BOB FOR PUZZLE BOBBLE! MAKE A NEW BUBBLE BOBBLE!

*Shakes fist in every direction in the hope that Taito get the point*
Title: RE:Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Top Ramen on September 28, 2003, 04:46:31 AM
Grey Ninja, that argument makes no sense. What you're suggesting is a 2D side-scrolling antique in the 128-bit generation. Ninja Gaiden is a classic. Let me say again: classic. Meaning it was an incredible game back in its day on the NES (most would argue the SNES third installment didn't live up to the first two), however it is completely unsuited for today's demanding and graphically-spoiled gamer. Tecmo would never do this as only you and say, 2 other gamers would buy it. Recall Contra for PS2? Didn't sell very many copies and they tried to relive the 2D glory days. Bad idea.

If you want a 2D Ninja Gaiden, its only place is on the Gameboy Advance, and you know how that goes...you want a classic? You get THE classic. A re-hash of a once great game. At least on a handheld most gamers can live with that.

Props to Tecmo for modernizing the legend because it's looking great. I remember when naysayers like you pooh-poohed Miyamoto and Retro's decision to 3D/1st-person Metroid, another 2D classic. Every single one of you non-believers ate crow on that one!

Top Ramen
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Post by: Bill Aurion on September 28, 2003, 05:45:40 AM
*ahem*

*points to the fact that Viewtiful Joe is a perfect example of a great 2d action game*
Title: RE: Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Grey Ninja on September 28, 2003, 06:00:22 AM
Top Ramen, I am not demanding a 2D Game.  I am demanding a sequel.  Meaning I want to see some familiar faces, familiar style, and familiar atmosphere.  Kind of like when Zelda went 3D you know?  They made a true sequel instead of just taking some elf who was slaying orcs somewhere and renaming him to Link.
Title: RE:Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 28, 2003, 06:02:27 AM
The closest they are getting to that is putting the original 3 in the game
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Post by: KnowsNothing on September 28, 2003, 06:05:30 AM
A remake of Shaq Fu.
Title: RE:Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Top Ramen on September 28, 2003, 06:57:10 AM
Grey, I understand what you're saying, but do you wish Metroid Prime had been such a "sequel"? Not me.

How about Mario 64 vs the side-scrolling classics? That's a tough one. I still feel SMB3 was the best of all the Mario platformers, and it was 2D. Mario 64 was hardly a faithful translation of the 2D classic not to mention Mario Sunshine which had dismal sales. However, when I play Super Mario World or the other classics I have fond memories of on the NES/SNES, they just don't hold the same appeal to me on the GBA. My gaming experiences with today's amazing hardware capabilities have dulled my nostalgia for the classics.

The point is that going into an entirely new direction can be a great thing for a series, or it may not. It's too early to condemn Ninja Gaiden since it is not a finished product. Metroid Prime was GOTY 2002 from most media outlets. Mario Sunshine didn't sell very well. The latest Zelda was a departure from the past and into a new direction of cell-shading, and that game while good, did not translate to huge sales in North America. Metroid had the wildest departure from its classical origin, yet it was extremely successful while Sunshine and Wind Waker were not.

Tecmo has a vision for NG. I'm going to wait and see if it lives up to the hype.

Top Ramen
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Post by: Bill Aurion on September 28, 2003, 07:15:14 AM
Well the gameplay didn't really change between Super Mario World and Super Mario 64, nor between Wind Waker and it's previous incarnations.  Sure the look is different, but the main focus doesn't.  Ninja Gaiden looks great and all, and I think it'll be a great game in the end, but Tecmo didn't need to call it Ninja Gaiden.  I've seen many previews on the game, and it just doesn't seem that the Xbox version follows the steps of the NES ones in the fashion that Mario and Zelda games pretty much as a whole do...

(As for Metroid Prime, Grey doesn't like it for the same reasons.  It just didn't feel like Metroid(though it was loads of fun for me )
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Post by: KDR_11k on September 28, 2003, 08:49:16 PM
Dang, just remembered: We need a new Commander Keen game!
Title: RE: Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Infernal Monkey on September 28, 2003, 08:58:41 PM
Yeah, a DECENT one. His rebirth on GameBoy Color was beyond dreadful. *Grumbles*
And since we're on the trippy DOS days, I'd also like a remake of Jill of the Jungle. Just so I can laugh at it.
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Post by: MysticGohan24 on September 28, 2003, 09:42:21 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Top Ramen
Grey Ninja, that argument makes no sense. What you're suggesting is a 2D side-scrolling antique in the 128-bit generation. Ninja Gaiden is a classic. Let me say again: classic. Meaning it was an incredible game back in its day on the NES (most would argue the SNES third installment didn't live up to the first two), however it is completely unsuited for today's demanding and graphically-spoiled gamer. Tecmo would never do this as only you and say, 2 other gamers would buy it. Recall Contra for PS2? Didn't sell very many copies and they tried to relive the 2D glory days. Bad idea.

If you want a 2D Ninja Gaiden, its only place is on the Gameboy Advance, and you know how that goes...you want a classic? You get THE classic. A re-hash of a once great game. At least on a handheld most gamers can live with that.

Props to Tecmo for modernizing the legend because it's looking great. I remember when naysayers like you pooh-poohed Miyamoto and Retro's decision to 3D/1st-person Metroid, another 2D classic. Every single one of you non-believers ate crow on that one!

Top Ramen



You are misinformed, Ninja Gaiden 3 wasn't on the SNES it was the original Nes. There was a complation for the Snes with all 3 games, but that's been all.

You really don't know as much as you say, or else you would of known that. Also Tecmo wouldn't do that? I begg a differ, Have you looked at DOA3 or DOA:V? Seems like Tecmo cares about one thing. out of control hormonic people with money

Ninja Gaiden would be good either way, But I do recall at onetime that they wanted to bring it to were people were most loyal to. Sadly they chose xbox, a mistake they gravely made. It will sell as much as Panzer Dragoon and Shenmue, And to add fuel to the fire, they'll emulating the Nes Ninja Gaidens on Xbox, God knows I wouldn't be surprised if it crashes.
Title: RE:Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Swordsplay on October 07, 2003, 05:09:40 AM
Here are my ideas of remakes:

1.Donkey Kong

2.A first person shooter in 3D with metroid primes' graphics that is a Megaman game
(where your in the shoes of mega man) - sort of a spoof on prime

3.Spiderman, because the otherone was really bad in my opinion and rushed

4.Centipede and millipede in 3D, sort of what the did with defender
Title: RE: Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 07, 2003, 08:05:38 PM
I am tired of repeating myself.  So I will say this one last time.  I don't want a 2D Ninja Gaiden.  I don't want a 3D Ninja Gaiden that isn't Ninja Gaiden.  I want a damn Ninja Gaiden game.  If that doesn't make sense to you, then you need to review my previous posts.
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on October 08, 2003, 08:51:57 PM
And I want Tecmo to call their upcoming Ninja Gaiden game on Xbox, Shadow Warrior in Europe. The 'tards renamed the NES/Master System games 'Shadow Warrior' for no reason at all. YOU CHOSE IT, STICK WITH IT, FOOLS.

*Is angry at nothing*
I need some pie.
Title: RE: Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 09, 2003, 03:50:45 PM
Commander Keen!  God how I hate that game!  THIS CALLS FOR A REMAKE!

*at the speed of light*

*inserts random question*
Ummmmm......I was just thinking.  My friend at school have nifty graphing calculators that have games on them.  Now, one of these games is called Super Mario or, and another one is called Megaman.  And it's not just the names either.  Each one looks like pixelated half-assed small versions of each game running at the wrong speed.  Now, I don't see Nintendo or Capcom giving Texas Instrument the rights to make a Mario or Megaman game or a calculator.  Yet, if something illegal is going on, somebody would have done something about it already.  What's up with that?
Title: RE:Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 09, 2003, 03:53:43 PM
They aren't sold...just fans making versions that are playable on calculators...sorta like roms...Illegal, but there's no way for Ninty to stop it
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Post by: Grey Ninja on October 09, 2003, 04:17:16 PM
KnowsNothing, those are games that people like you and me make.  My knowledge of assembly programming is next to nil at the moment, and I don't have a link cable for my calculator, or I would have programmed something for it long ago I am sure.

The thing is that those games are free.  The makers are not making money on them, and by the Fair Use law, no laws are being broken.  Using a Nintendo character or creation without permission is just fine.  As long as the creator is not making a profit from the intellectual property of others.
Title: RE: Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Spider on October 09, 2003, 09:02:35 PM
Powerstone 2, or even make  a Powerstone 3!
Just saying that cause I think Powerstone 2 is the best game ever, ever!
Title: RE:Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Swordsplay on October 10, 2003, 05:50:44 AM
More ideas of mine

1.Mario, cuz sunshine was too easy, i missed mario 64 for nintendo 64
2.Something with luigi in it, what happend to him?  Did he die in the mansion (luigi's mansion)?
3.Fire emblem
4.Kirby, cuz the other games were crap except for dreamland for gameboy
5.They should make another grand theft auto game for gamecube, that would kick so much a*(
6.Another resident evil game
7.They should make aliens vs predator
8.A Turok dinosaur hunter game with a high rating of at least 9 out of 10
9.A game called "Destroy the visious squirrels" there are just to many in the world.  LOL
Title: RE:Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: dizzyyounglad on October 12, 2003, 11:52:18 AM
*shakes head* I hate Duck Hunt, probably because my little gun was broken from day one
Title: RE: Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: KDR_11k on October 12, 2003, 08:35:15 PM
Ninja: Errr... No. Fair use doesn't cover that, it just allows you to make backup copies. (before a discussion starts: fan art is illegal)
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Post by: Grey Ninja on October 12, 2003, 09:35:27 PM
Eh?  Fair use also covers modifying the work to create a remixed thing doesn't it?  
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Post by: KDR_11k on October 13, 2003, 08:49:02 AM
If you read that article you know it doesn't. Format-shifting is allowed for personal use only.
By creating a Mario game and giving it away for free you are in competition with Nintendo using their intellectual property. That is exactly the thing copyright laws are supposed to prevent. By the way, Nintendo managed to kill Giana Sisters, don't you think they could kill a game that is even more a Ripoff of theirs?
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Post by: Grey Ninja on October 13, 2003, 09:11:14 AM
The article also says that the only way to ultimately determine if it's fair use or not is in a court of law though.  This line in particular is what I am talking about:

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The effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work -- If the court finds the newly created work is not a substitute product for the copyrighted work, it will be more likely to weigh this factor in favor of fair use.


If Nintendo were ever to create their own game for TI calculators, then they would have grounds for a lawsuit I am sure.  But since that's about as likely as me growing a 3rd arm, then Nintendo really doesn't care.
Title: RE: Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Swordsplay on October 13, 2003, 09:17:35 AM
the should make a Toe Jam and Earl remake, that was kinda cool.  Oooh, perfect idea, Simpsons arcade (anyone play this, it was fun) to the gamecube.

-Quote by Grey Ninja-

I am tired of repeating myself. So I will say this one last time. I don't want a 2D Ninja Gaiden. I don't want a 3D Ninja Gaiden that isn't Ninja Gaiden. I want a damn Ninja Gaiden game. If that doesn't make sense to you, then you need to review my previous posts.

-End of quote-

Oh yeah and just a plain old Ninga Gaiden game that Grey Ninja wants so hell (shell?) be happy!   LOL

Title: RE:Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: Geno on October 13, 2003, 01:21:57 PM
I would pay over the top for a remake of Renegade for the Amstrad -that's what I played it on anyway. That was a great co-op game.
Title: RE: Games that should be remade for the cube
Post by: KDR_11k on October 13, 2003, 09:51:32 PM
Ninja: That calculator can then do things you'd usually have to buy a Gameboy for. That means you're competition.