Gaming Forums => General Gaming => Topic started by: Boffo on September 18, 2003, 01:30:34 AM
Title: Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: Boffo on September 18, 2003, 01:30:34 AM
http://www.cube-europe.com/news.php?nid=5403
Title: RE: Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: PIAC on September 18, 2003, 01:45:52 AM
and? what has this got todo with the gamecube?
Title: RE:Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: Boffo on September 18, 2003, 10:21:52 AM
are you for real? get your head out of the sand.
The people that deserted Nintendo and bought an XBox for Perfect Dark must be pissed that it's not even coming out on that system either.
You'd think people that have a gamecube - with it originally supposed to be on gamecube and may have been a big reason they bought one - and have been following Perfect Dark since N64 would want to know...
Title: RE: Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: KDR_11k on September 19, 2003, 09:35:58 AM
PIAC: Nothing. That's why it's filed under "Other Systems".
Title: RE:Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: Boffo on September 19, 2003, 10:56:03 AM
It was on the gamecube section but there was a Rare topic in there for 3 or 4 days, so I thought nothing of putting it in there.
Title: RE: Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: Grey Ninja on September 19, 2003, 02:21:54 PM
lol... what really amuses me about this is that I got called a "stupid fanboy" for predicting that this very thing would happen.
Title: RE: Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: Joey on September 19, 2003, 05:12:42 PM
I am really not that suprised. Rare has never been a company that ruhsed their games along.
Title: RE:Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: The Omen on October 19, 2003, 05:55:22 PM
Aero, i understand you must defend everything MS, but i wasnt being a smart ass. PD Zero now has a release date of 2006. You think thats not for the next Xbox?
Title: RE:Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on October 19, 2003, 06:31:46 PM
Quote Fri September 19, 2003 9:12 PM
Quote Sun October 19, 2003 9:55 PM
Nice thread necromancy, clown
Title: RE:Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: The Omen on October 20, 2003, 07:34:41 AM
Quote Nice thread necromancy, clown
I'm a clown? What do i amuse you?
Title: RE: Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 20, 2003, 11:16:00 AM
Clowns scare the crap outta me. o_O
Anyway, either this is ALL RARE'S FAULT, or MS wanted to do this. They knew that people bought an Xbox for PD so now they want people to buy an X2 for the same reason. Of course da peeps will get pissed and abandon MS. Seeing as how MS makes bad decisions left and right, this is entirely possible.
Or not.
Title: RE:Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 20, 2003, 11:27:50 AM
Or maybe it's because there is no way Rare can release 5 games within a period of less than 2 years...They have GbtG, Kameo, Conker's, and Banjo to release first. And I'm doubting Banjo will even be released on the current system
Title: RE: Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: Infernal Monkey on October 20, 2003, 03:43:10 PM
Ooooooh, Microsoft would be set if they manage to get Perfect Dark Zero and Halo 3 as Xbox 2 launch games.
Title: RE: Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: Pale on October 20, 2003, 04:13:42 PM
Set when it comes to fans of first person shooters i guess.
Title: RE:Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: honda_insightful on October 20, 2003, 04:22:26 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Bill Anyway, either this is ALL RARE'S FAULT, or MS wanted to do this. They knew that people bought an Xbox for PD so now they want people to buy an X2 for the same reason............. And I'm doubting Banjo will even be released on the current system
Maybe Nintendo was smart to get rid of Rare. There's no point in having Rare if they can't get the games released before 2005 (end of this generation).
Title: RE:Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 20, 2003, 04:25:15 PM
Woah, you made a big misquote there. I never said that
Title: RE:Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: Ymeegod on October 21, 2003, 02:41:04 AM
Well, there's two things.
For one, even when PD0 was still listed under GC, it still had 2005 as a date. Which would have been the launching of GC2.
Second, that's prior to the new look, the anime style. Why did MS or Rare decide to go with that look? Maybe because of the developement time--though it's not cel-shading like everyone is thinking (unless it's a new method since it has multiple colors + fading).
But yeah, with slew of FPS on the xbox, you really don't need too many more--platformers will brand name is what's needed because games like Voodoo Vince isn't going to sell.
Title: RE:Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: J on October 21, 2003, 11:28:10 AM
is PD still slated as being more like MGS rather than GE?
i would imagine going the anime route would be to get better sales in japan...
PD2 has been so long in comming that i dont care anymore, i'll take halo2
Title: RE: Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: Yuji Miyamoto on October 21, 2003, 01:25:06 PM
Here's the truth. Perfect Dark Zero may NEVER come out. It's listed in internal company memo's as being "on hold indeffinately."
Title: RE:Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 21, 2003, 01:41:47 PM
Know why? Because they are still working on GbtG, Kameo, Conker's, and Banjo...They can't work on 5 games at a time
Once they have finished most of the games, they will start work again on PD...
Title: RE: Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 21, 2003, 04:52:51 PM
HOW COULD YOU GIVE THE CREDIT TO MY GREATEST POST TO BILL?!?!?!?!?!
well....some of the quote was his. but most of it was mine.
Title: RE: Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: Yuji Miyamoto on October 21, 2003, 09:27:25 PM
Here's strange logic for you. Which of the 5 or 6 games Bill mentioned would do better, sales-wise, than Perfect Dark Zero? None of them. So why would Rare put their best franchise on indefinate hold?
Title: RE:Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 22, 2003, 03:14:23 AM
Banjo-Kazooie - million seller Perfect Dark - not even close
I have nothing else to add...
Title: RE: Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: KDR_11k on October 22, 2003, 06:34:42 AM
Yuji: Perhaps they read up who Johanna Dark was (a character in Bertold Brecht's "Die Heilige Johanna der Schlachthöfe" who failed to change anything because of her own stupidity) and figured nobody wants to play a fanatic religious loser?
Title: RE: Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: BlkPaladin on October 22, 2003, 09:36:13 PM
The whole Rare deal had a lot wrong with it. It also doesn't help that they are allowed to program for the GBA either.
Title: RE:Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: Ymeegod on October 23, 2003, 02:31:26 AM
"Banjo-Kazooie - million seller Perfect Dark - not even close"
Actually PD was a million seller, so wasn't conkers for that matter--that's why it was a player's choice game on the N64 (which only applied to million sellers unlike the GC player choice games, IE spiderman.
Title: RE:Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on October 24, 2003, 05:46:46 PM
"Ooooooh, Microsoft would be set if they manage to get Perfect Dark Zero and Halo 3 as Xbox 2 launch games"
Bungie revieled that they dont want to make a Halo 3 and instead make a different series. So Xbox users get their last taste of Halo in Halo 2 i guess.
Title: RE:Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 24, 2003, 06:10:39 PM
I guess I was wrong about the PD sales...But still, Banjo-Kazooie sold 300,000 more units...
Title: RE:Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: Shift Key on October 24, 2003, 07:05:20 PM
Quote Here's the truth. Perfect Dark Zero may NEVER come out. It's listed in internal company memo's as being "on hold indeffinately."
This is Rare, the company who are masters of publicity stunts and backflips. Take everything they say with a grain of salt. I'm not saying that they'll release PD0 tomorrow, but its not gone. They have a habit of delaying and postponing to get their work to their own high standards and that hasn't changed much over time.
But Fable? I think that concept is too intricate to make into a game to be released this decade.
Title: RE:Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 24, 2003, 07:07:33 PM
Fable = the most over-hyped game ever since...Halo...Man, too many games are over-hyped these days...
Title: RE: Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: manunited4eva22 on October 25, 2003, 05:00:09 PM
Fable's latest build, a man sitting in the woods chopping a tree; if this game ever comes out, I will be amazed.
Title: RE: Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: KDR_11k on October 25, 2003, 11:13:03 PM
Of course it will come out! Just after DNF! Hell, don't forget you're talking about Peter Molyneaux.
Title: RE:Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: Shift Key on October 26, 2003, 02:09:43 AM
The fact that so much energy is being devoted to stuff outside the focus of the game makes me think this game could wind up as a tech demo, or as another Sims release. i.e. "The Sims: Superhero!" Or would that be "The Sims: Idol"?
*gets beaten by lawyers* AURGH! I CALL PRECEDENCE! I REST MY CASE! *is dead*
Title: RE:Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: Masterchief on November 04, 2003, 04:04:00 PM
Quote Originally posted by: The Omen Aero, i understand you must defend everything MS, but i wasnt being a smart ass. PD Zero now has a release date of 2006. You think thats not for the next Xbox?
TRy getting it of a site that WONT be biased and a site thats not european
Title: RE:Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 04, 2003, 04:15:20 PM
There was nothing biased there...PD won't be coming out for a very long time...
Title: RE: Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: KDR_11k on November 06, 2003, 08:07:10 AM
MC: Why not european?
Title: RE:Perfect Dark Zero to come out for XBox 2
Post by: The Omen on November 07, 2003, 12:12:06 PM
Quote TRy getting it of a site that WONT be biased and a site thats not european
Sorry, i didn't want to insult you. Obviously it hurt you to find this out. But that is the MS release date, not Cube europe. Perhaps you'd like to wager on it?