Post by: Bill Aurion on September 08, 2003, 01:18:59 PM
~An enhanced port of Final Fantasy VII from Square-Enix is to be revealed at this year's Tokyo Games Show for Gamecube (TGS = September 26th - September 28th). Beter include something new guys, I think we're all sick of remakes.
Just like in the topic below this, here's the classic FFVII remake rumor. It's wishful thinking so I will keep my fingers crossed...
~Miyamoto is currently working on another game with Hideo Kojima other than Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes, supposedly a Nintendo franchise.
Hmmmm...No idea what it could be, but Dyack did say that the relationship between Ninty and Konami wasn't a one-shot deal...Could be very well true...
~Shinji Mikami is working on a sequel to a cult classic Nintendo franchise. What is it? Besides Kid Icarus, there are no other rumblings at the moment.
Heard this one not too long ago as well. Kid Icarus would be a fine choice, mainly because I couldn't think of another Ninty franchise he could work on...unless he wants to do another Ice Climbers game
~Too Human will be released next year (every year the same thing right?), though other reports say it's a N5 launch title. With Dennis Dyack not talking, I doubt we'll know oficially until at least E3 2k4.
I don't want to believe this. I really want the game to be a launch title for Ninty's next system.
~Mario 128 will undergo a name change, and will be a pseudo-3d sidescrolling adventure, with some full 3d bits (think Wario World). Sources put it at release around Christmas in Japan (could Nintendo be at TGS showing it off this year? It's be a first.)
Oh boy, more 2d Mario rumors. I personally don't care if the game is 2d-like, I just want the game to be more like Super Mario World.
~Game Zero, by Zoonami is going to be an MMORPG for N5, and will be one of the largest virtual universes ever created. Somehow I doubt this, but then again, I also doubted Metroid Prime and Wind Waker, and I've eaten those words.
Will this game ever be revealed? The MMORPG part would explain why nothing has been showed on it yet. If this is true I hope the fee is minimal, if not free...
~Speaking of Metroid Prime, MP2 supposedly will include LAN based multiplayer, possibley an online option as well. Seems odd to me.
I would much rather have a co-op mode, but if this is so, I want bots!
Discuss!
edit: I found some interesting tidbits on Killer 7 at The Magic Box
You can choose your destination from a list of proposed locations. When you encounter enemy on your way, the game changes to the attack mode in first person perspective, you can use special attack or weapon to attack the enemy, there are weapons that explode the enemy in one hit.
So there you go for those worried about the game being a lightgun game. You play in third person until you fight enemies...Sounds interesting
Post by: Grey Ninja on September 08, 2003, 03:39:13 PM
Nevertheless, it will no doubt sell a few GCNs if it comes to pass.New Konami game? That's pretty much a no brainer. What remains to be answered is what and when.
Kid Ikarus rumors have been going on since the beginning of time. I will wait and see. Having never played Kid Ikarus, I don't care one way or another. I will care if it's an excellent game though.
Too Human is something I would very much like to see next year. Denis said something a while ago to the effect that Too Human had been pushed back too many times as it was. N5 isn't released for 2 more years people. GameCube needs our love NOW.
Mario 128.... too much speculation on this one for me. I am just going to wait and see.
Game Zero: For the love of GOD (Xel'lotath), PLEASE do not be a MMORPG.
Metroid Prime 2: I bought the first one based on the hype, and I was dissapointed. I am not buying the next one.
Killer 7: I will wait and see.
Post by: AgentSeven on September 08, 2003, 04:02:01 PM
I can say this, %80 of what has been said is true. The only thing I can't confirm is the stuff reguarding "too human." It's a project that I never had much interest in.
The Miyamoto and Kojima link has been discussed before. So has the "Project Zero" info. Also we already know that the engine for "dark pheonix(?)" is being used for a 3-d Kid Icarus.
The only thing I would really question is the Mario 128 info. It actually seems purposely misleading. If you have played Wario World GC, it's a fairly simple, straight forward title. From what I have gathered, Mario 128 will be more like a semi-3d Super Mario World on "acid," far beyond what we have seen before. I'm sure Nintendo is trying to keep it's best ideas a secret, so that "other companies" don't steal their thunder.
Here's something I'm %100 positive about. Killer 7 will RULE! I'm on that title.
Good work Bill, I'd like to see more rumors posted on this board. It's what I'm into the most
(Nintendo is so darm stubborn and secretive, lol!)
ps. did somebody say FF with multi player options?
Post by: Grey Ninja on September 08, 2003, 05:47:25 PM
Post by: AgentSeven on September 08, 2003, 06:09:40 PM
Also, GameSpy, one of the more reputable websites, has covered many of the rumors posted above.
So the only leap of faith here is the info I have reguarding Square. Since I'm obviously a fan of their titles, I make it my business to find out as much as I can. Plus, certain people noticed my DC Final Fantasy Collection, and well, since then, I've made a few new friends...(I did put the remake info out there..)
Oh and let me add, KILLER 7 will rule!!!! I just love it's style
Post by: nolimit19 on September 08, 2003, 06:12:49 PM
Post by: Perfect Cell on September 08, 2003, 06:17:55 PM
Post by: AgentSeven on September 08, 2003, 06:21:20 PM
He was the series creator. (He also created Metroid, the GameBoy, Wonderswan, Game + Watch, and about a million other brilliant gadgets. Yes, he did create Virtua Boy, but he was also Miyamoto's mentor)
(God Bless You "Game Boy")
By the way, many "rumors" in the video game industry are nothing more than "controlled leaks."
Info publicity dept's use to whet people's appetites for upcoming games. The industry has a stranglehold over the media...
Post by: The Omen on September 08, 2003, 07:41:05 PM
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By the way, many "rumors" in the video game industry are nothing more than "controlled leaks."
Info publicity dept's use to whet people's appetites for upcoming games. The industry has a stranglehold over the media...
And they're also dis-information.
and geeks on message boards hoping their rumors will catch on. The truth is, even if some of these come true, its still only throwing crap at the wall to see what sticks, then annointing yourself the almighty one for guessing a few things right....this isn't directed at agent7, just rumor mongers in general.
Post by: AgentSeven on September 08, 2003, 08:08:31 PM
I mean, I heard the "Gta on X-box rumors" over a year ago. I even heard about the the double pack.
Still, the industry mainly uses rumors to manipulate people. Heck it even uses those same "fanboys" you speak of to deliver it's best secrets. Kind of strange what publicists will do...There are people on the web who actually do work within this industry...Funny how the rumor "food chain" works...
(somebody sing "the circle of life")
Post by: Mario on September 09, 2003, 12:36:18 AM
BTW, MIYAMOTO ALSO TOLD ME ABOUT A NEW YOSHI GAME FOR GAMECUBE TO BE UNVIELED AFTER MARIO KART DOUBLE DASH COMES OUT!! Its truuuu, i promise, lol!!!111!11!1!!imlyingplzdonttellanyonekthxbi!!11!ROFL
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 09, 2003, 03:48:23 AM
At least that last part is...
Post by: Pale on September 09, 2003, 03:53:50 AM
Some guy (who must be a publicist) told me that Nintendo is unveiling its (Massive) Online plan at TGS!!!!
Riiiight.....see, even I can sound semi truthful when I'm actually just spouting falsities.... =)
Post by: iTZKooPA on September 09, 2003, 04:10:59 AM
and rumors are more often than not wrong and just about everyone heard about the GTA on Xbox rumors
i am with nolimit19 on this one
i hate rumors, unless i get hard evidence i normally just think of it as that, a rumor that might and most likely isnt accurate (if not completly wrong)
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 09, 2003, 04:26:20 AM
Yes I know everyone here despises rumors, but I'm posting them so everyone can discuss the likelyhood of any of them happening
Post by: iTZKooPA on September 09, 2003, 04:28:27 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 09, 2003, 04:31:17 AM
Post by: AgentSeven on September 09, 2003, 05:06:08 AM
Secondly, if anyone had bothered to do any detective work of their own, you could easily confirm almost any one of these "rumors." I mean for God sake, half of this stuff is already public knowledge in certain circles.
I do have a couple of friends in the game industry, even though like me, they are nobody's(lol.) But still you would be suprised what information you can find out just by talking to people. I have a friend at Digipen, another who works for Vivendi Universal, another at Activision, and I myself am a retail buyer for a certain Video and Music chain. People talk, that's where rumors begin. Many of those rumors start within the industry and they come from people working on these projects. Heck if you live in Los Angeles, you can actually do part time game testing for a number of local game companies.
As for publicists, I think you underestimate their powers, they practically tell people what to think. It's disgusting. Then you see people on web boards practically repeating their words almost verbatim.
Post by: KDR_11k on September 09, 2003, 06:25:52 AM
Seven: How do you define "detective work"? Looking around dubious sites on the internet counting which rumor was repeated how many times? Hell, unless you can pin down a dev who is not under NDA you can never be sure. And I'm sure 99% of us cannot catch a dev just like that.
Post by: AgentSeven on September 09, 2003, 07:37:30 AM
I'm just very enthusiastic about gaming, and I like to keep myself well informed. Plus in my circle of friends, getting a good scoop first is almost a badge of honor. (Did I mention that almost all of my friends are gamers and/or they work in computers or the game industry? I have nightly "game-a-thons" at my home that often go on for hours at a time. Heck I have 2 tv's in my living room, but this is all besides the point.)
Here's what I mean by "detective work." Read a newspapers business section, check the stock pages, make friends within the industry, etc,etc,etc..NDA's are not as pervasive as you might think. Heck,I talk to 18 year old kids in LA who get weekend jobs testing games. You'd be suprised what they know. Then there is all of the websites. Now many of them have somewhat dubious reputations, but some have a degree of credibility, if you know where to look.
The Miyamoto/Kojima connection has been mentioned in several locations including EGM, IGN as well as other websites and magazines. I mean, am I the only one who reads here? This stuff is out there.
The "Kid Icarus" rumor has also been repeated in several locations. Want to know why? Because it's been in production for a while. Heck, a few months ago a rumor began that Nintendo was about to buy back millions of shares of it's own stock. All it took to confirm that "rumor" was a trip to the business pages to find out that it was true.
Stock pages recently revealed that $ony is having massive production difficulties with it's PSP.
Something that even Miyamoto himself recently hinted at during an interview he was giving to EGM.
Get informed.
Post by: iTZKooPA on September 09, 2003, 07:49:43 AM
I hope you understand i wasn't attacking these supposed rumors as false, just starting that things such as Final Fantasy remakes are annoying and often wrong (since ive heard that one at least 2x before)
Post by: Sirmorphix on September 09, 2003, 08:04:01 AM
Post by: AgentSeven on September 09, 2003, 08:32:27 AM
Like I said, you could confirm many of these rumors for yourselves, using many of the ways I have mentioned.
Still I have to say that iTZkoopa does make a good point about fraudulent rumors. EGM has a tendency to deliberately print lies. They knew damn well that the "Sonic in SSB" rumor was false, but they printed it anyways, mainly to sell magazines. Their motivations are twisted, but to me their attitude shows real contempt for their readers. (Not to mention the fact that their new editor is a real @$$H***!, whoops, did I just say that?)
Post by: iTZKooPA on September 09, 2003, 08:37:29 AM
and he works for EA, hes still a gamer to so hes welcome. Makes 2 ppl i know from EA wahoo, BASTARDS WHY DID YOU KILL WESTWOOD!
(i know business but i can still bitch!)
Post by: Sirmorphix on September 09, 2003, 12:40:21 PM
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You work for EA? Where and doing what? If I may politely ask. That's a company I've always wanted to get some info on.
I do indeed work for EA. I work at EAX, which is Electronic Arts Blackbox. Located down on waterfront in Vancouver, BC. Have worked on/currently working on FIFA, SSX3, NFS:Underground.
Post by: iTZKooPA on September 09, 2003, 04:22:25 PM
Post by: Mario on September 09, 2003, 04:48:32 PM
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First off, Mario, I can't listen to anything you say, you just seem so negative and ignorant. Get an education and make some friends.
Hello. No really, hi.
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I do indeed work for EA. I work at EAX, which is Electronic Arts Blackbox. Located down on waterfront in Vancouver, BC. Have worked on/currently working on FIFA, SSX3, NFS:Underground.
Awesome, SSX3 is like, one of my most wanted games. You rock!
And as for this rumour
"Mario 128 will undergo a name change, and will be a pseudo-3d sidescrolling adventure, with some full 3d bits (think Wario World). Sources put it at release around Christmas in Japan (could Nintendo be at TGS showing it off this year? It's be a first.)"
That would be the best thing that ever happened. There like, what, 22 days until TGS?
Also, i know another rumour. I was talking with Iwata last night on MSN, and he told me Nintendo were getting the Tomb Raider franchise.
Also, Bill Gates rang me up and hinted that Perfect Dark Zero for XBOX was going to be released this year, and Halo 2 is finished, so it could come out anytime.
Post by: Sirmorphix on September 09, 2003, 05:36:02 PM
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Awesome, SSX3 is like, one of my most wanted games.
SSX3 GC is definately kicking ass compared to SSX Tricky GC. You won't be disapointed.
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hurry up with NFS UG then
As for that, I really can't help you out much there in that respect.
As for Rumours, I really want to see more 3rd party games, that means if we could get a FF VII remake, then I'd take it. The more good non-nintendo developed titles on the system, the better. Nintendo just doesn't always have enough 1st party titles to carry their system. Getting as much support as possible will definately help Nintendo's software launch with the N5. As long time Nintendo fan, I really want to see them succeed in the next generation.
OT note: Picked up FF tactics advance today. #*$! it rocks!
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 09, 2003, 05:40:55 PM
Post by: Mario on September 09, 2003, 05:47:33 PM
Just out of curiousity, do you know anyone who worked on Ty the Tasmanian Tiger? My dad actually did the cut scenes for that.
SSX3 is going to have to be pretty good to get me to buy it over 1080 Avalanche though... actually i might buy both
Post by: Sirmorphix on September 09, 2003, 06:32:01 PM
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Just out of curiousity, do you know anyone who worked on Ty the Tasmanian Tiger?
To the best of my knowledge Ty wasn't developed out here at EAC/EAX so odds are I don't know anyone for the dev team.
As for the quality of SSX3 vs. 1080 I can't really say how the two will stack up seeing as how I haven't played the new 1080 yet. But hot damn do I love SSX3, I think 1080 is going to be hard pressed to compete with it. Of course I do have a bit of unfair love for the product so I'm not really the most impartial person to say. But I guess with SSX3 coming out sooner than later, it shouldn't be too long for everyone to sink their teeth into the game.
On the other hand if 1080 is as much fun as it was back in the 64 days, then maybe things are going to work out. Though I'm not looking forward to the "health" thing. That was the only aspect of 1080 that I didn't really enjoy.
Anyhow this is a little off topic. So I'll can it for now.
Post by: Djunknown on September 10, 2003, 09:16:05 PM
Rumors are fun to speculate, but while speculation doesn't bring you down, a juicy rumor you want be true but then isn't brings your down quicker than tranquilizers...
Oh, and Grey Ninja, a good rule of thumb (I'm sure you learned it by now) is never, EVER by a game just on hype. If it isn't your cup of tea (I believe you went on record saying you don't like FPS,), is the hype going to make it any difference?
Too Human? Where are you? I got a Scooby snack! (Where did THAT come from?)
Post by: Skyman_Welks on September 11, 2003, 12:18:19 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill
~Mario 128 will undergo a name change, and will be a pseudo-3d sidescrolling adventure, with some full 3d bits (think Wario World). Sources put it at release around Christmas in Japan (could Nintendo be at TGS showing it off this year? It's be a first.)
Oh boy, more 2d Mario rumors. I personally don't care if the game is 2d-like, I just want the game to be more like Super Mario World.
I must say, I like the sound of that, well, except for the Wario World part. Anyways, I think it would be cool if they equally mixed side scrolling and 3d platforming.
Post by: Molobert on September 11, 2003, 07:32:18 PM
Post by: Hybrid Hunter on September 11, 2003, 11:47:33 PM
If FF VII does come to GCN i'd be really happy!
Mario 128 i can't wait to see, hope all the hype is worth it.
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on September 14, 2003, 12:40:29 AM
it would rock as a N5 launch title
who wouldnt want to buy the best game in the world on a
sparkling new console
Post by: KDR_11k on September 14, 2003, 06:46:11 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 14, 2003, 07:02:29 AM
Haha, just kidding. Though there's absolutely nothing wrong with hyping a game that has been in development since the early-PS/N64 era
