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Title: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: davidk on September 13, 2018, 12:02:00 PM

Final Fantasy is making up for lost time on Nintendo consoles

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/48330/final-fantasy-is-being-well-represented-on-switch

Nintendo announced that Final Fantasy is coming to the Nintendo Switch in many ways

Final Fantasy XV: Pocket Edition HD is out now. This is a port of the mobile game.

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles Remaster is coming in 2019. This is a remaster of the GameCube title and includes new areas and online multiplayer.

World of Final Fantasy is coming November 6. New feature called avatar change has been added, which allows you change your character to another character from the series.

Chocobo Mystery Dundeon: Everybody! is coming this winter

Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age is coming in 2019. Remaster comes with a speed mode that allows you to fast forward the adventure

Final Fantasy 7, 9, 10 and 10-2 HD are coming in 2019

Title: Re: Final Fantasy is being well represented on Switch
Post by: Adrock on September 13, 2018, 07:09:07 PM
Awesome. Weird that Square Enix skipped FFVIII.

Maybe we can get more Final Fantasy tunes in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy is being well represented on Switch
Post by: Soren on September 13, 2018, 07:37:54 PM
Quote from: Adrock on September 13, 2018, 07:09:07 PM
Awesome. Weird that Square Enix skipped FFVIII.

Hopefully that just means it's getting the extra big remastered treatment.

Right?

RIGHT?!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy is being well represented on Switch
Post by: Adrock on September 13, 2018, 07:40:33 PM
I’d be down. I never got around to it on PlayStation.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy is being well represented on Switch
Post by: broodwars on September 13, 2018, 07:47:55 PM
Quote from: Adrock on September 13, 2018, 07:09:07 PM
Awesome. Weird that Square Enix skipped FFVIII.

Maybe we can get more Final Fantasy tunes in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.

Given that FF8 is the 2nd-worst game in the series (after 2), it's understandable. The only way to salvage FF8 is to completely scrap it & rebuild from scratch.

If you've never played these games, I guess it's cool that they're coming to Switch. However, I already own all of these games on at least 2 platforms, so I can only shrug. Maybe more people will appreciate FF 10 now.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: Shaymin on September 13, 2018, 07:49:14 PM
FFVIII hasn't gotten a modern remixed mode yet like 7 and 9 has, yeah. That's why it's not here, but if/when it comes I suspect the Switch will get it.

Also, I couldn't get remote play to work on the PS4 version of Zodiac Age so I could play it portably. (insert longest Yeah Boy ever here)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: Adrock on September 13, 2018, 08:11:58 PM
I’m glad I get another chance to play Final Fantasy XII. I got it on sale on PS2, but college got in the way. Thanks for nothing, liberal arts degree.*







*I know. Is phony major. Lubchenko learn nothing. Nothing!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: leahsdad on September 14, 2018, 03:22:58 AM
Okay, that was a communications major, which is truly nothing.  I remember that episode.


As as for 8, well, you had a gunblade, what could go wrong?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: stevey on September 14, 2018, 06:22:50 AM
Sweet, I've never played a FF before and been waiting for a collection with 7 and 10 in it to jump in.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: TOPHATANT123 on September 14, 2018, 08:40:48 AM
This is cool, if they all run properly I'll play all of these eventually.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: Mop it up on September 14, 2018, 12:17:24 PM
I can certainly say I wasn't expecting this! World of Final Fantasy is one of the PS4 games I was curious about so it's nice to see that here. I was excited to see Chocobo's Dungeon mentioned until I realised it was an enhanced port of the Wii game, but we'll see how it turns out.

Which version of FF VII do they refer to? Is it the upcoming remake or something else?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: Stratos on September 14, 2018, 12:29:43 PM
I head the FFVII remake was on hold again, so I'm guessing this is a port of all the versions currently on Steam.

I'll probably try X and/or XII. Don't have the nostalgia for VII like others may have as I only played the old PC demo and didn't like it much.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: Adrock on September 14, 2018, 12:45:35 PM
The Final Fantasy VII announcement refers to a port, not the remake. The remake was recently brought in-house. No one really knows what Square Enix plans to do with it.

I didn’t play Final Fantasy VII until 2001, notably after Final Fantasy IX. I wasn’t into it until the end of Disc 1 when a certain pink-attired character is murder-death-killed which is about 10 hours into the game. If you’re willing to give it another shot, I recommend trying to get at least that far then see where you stand.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: Mop it up on September 14, 2018, 12:50:13 PM
Ah, okay. Is FF VII a port of the PSX version? Or has there been some enhanced re-released that I missed? If so, is there changes to that? I remember the original translation being kinda wonky.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: broodwars on September 14, 2018, 12:58:58 PM
Quote from: Mop it up on September 14, 2018, 12:50:13 PM
Ah, okay. Is FF VII a port of the PSX version? Or has there been some enhanced re-released that I missed? If so, is there changes to that? I remember the original translation being kinda wonky.

Both FF 7 & FF 9 had enhanced ports that were basically the PSX versions but with built-in cheats like the ability to turn off random encounters, instantly refill your life & limit breaks, speed up the game, etc. That was ported to PS4, and that's presumably what those are. FF 10 & FF 10-2 will be the HD versions released on PS3 & PS4. FF 12 HD will be a port of last year's PS4 HD remaster.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: BeautifulShy on September 14, 2018, 01:01:44 PM
I have been live streaming all of the FF games on my streaming channel and I have played a lot of the Steam versions. I am up to X-2 right now with things.   I imagine these versions will be the Steam versions which are solid with a few exceptions.  These versions will be great if you don't have a computer that can run them or some nice on the go rpg action.

Mop it up there is the Steam version which I think adds a few different things like character boosters, achievements, and cloud saves.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: Adrock on September 14, 2018, 01:03:10 PM
Quote from: Mop it up on September 14, 2018, 12:50:13 PM
Ah, okay. Is FF VII a port of the PSX version? Or has there been some enhanced re-released that I missed? If so, is there changes to that? I remember the original translation being kinda wonky.
The Switch announcement doesn’t specify. However, it’s probably based on the PC version. The team that handled that port ended up rewriting like 80% of the code. The PC version has been used for subsequent ports. Later editions included higher resolutions and other stuff I don’t remember. I imagine most of that will be present in the Switch version.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: Mop it up on September 14, 2018, 01:11:35 PM
Ah, thanks mates. The PC version is actually the one we had back in the 90s but I didn't remember it being different than the PSX version. I didn't think they made any changes to the game when they re-released it on Sony platforms and such but if they gave it a new translation, I may try it out again. It's probably been 15 or so years since last I played it so I've been wanting to give it another go to refresh my memory on this piece of history. I have a PSX copy laying around somewhere but I dunno if I can stomach PSX loading times anymore.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: Stratos on September 14, 2018, 07:56:36 PM
That's good that they have higher resolutions. I tried to go back and play 7 and 8 when a friend loaned them to me and my eye started bleeding in the intro so I abandoned them immediately and never looked back.

If they are up-rezed then I'm much more open to trying all of them.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: Shaymin on September 14, 2018, 10:32:34 PM
Quote from: Mop it up on September 14, 2018, 01:11:35 PM
Ah, thanks mates. The PC version is actually the one we had back in the 90s but I didn't remember it being different than the PSX version.

I played both, but 100%d the PC version because of shorter load times and a slightly fixed localization. (I don't recall if they fixed "this guy are sick", but one of Barrett's limits became "Angermax" instead of "Ungermaxx" or whatever).
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: Khushrenada on September 14, 2018, 11:11:54 PM
I wondered if having Cloud in Smash 4 meant Nintendo might try and work a deal with Square to have the Final Fantasy 7 remake released on the Switch as well. So far, there's been no word on that but I do wonder if it has helped lead to this arrangement of Square bringing many of their works to the Switch.

At the same time, I'm surprised they are releasing the older version of Final Fantasy 7 if the remake is in development. Seems to me like it might cut into sales with many people playing the older version. Of course, I haven't kept up with any news on that so I don't what the latest is on that remake or how far along in development it even is. But if people are speculating that 8 might be getting a remake treatment which is why it has been held back from re-release then I have to think that is closer to release than 7 if that is the case.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: broodwars on September 14, 2018, 11:15:32 PM
The Final Fantasy 7 remake is never coming to Switch, though mostly because it's not coming out in the Switch's lifespan...or the PS4's...or the Xbox One's. Square Enix has so spectacularly screwed up their handling of that remake that they just restarted from scratch. At best, it's 4-5 years away.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: Adrock on September 15, 2018, 12:32:39 AM
This is why announcing a game years in advance is a terrible idea.

There’s also a disconnect between what fans have been asking for and what Square Enix has announced it is planning. Fans pretty much want Final Fantasy VII with fully 3D high definition assets, and to that end, farming out the remake to an outside developer makes sense. Said team would largely need only oversight and supervision especially if given the PC source code.

But Square Enix practically wants a brand new game with the original scenario as the skeleton for the remake. It has very specific aims for this project and trying to relay all of it to an external, contracted team it doesn’t have direct day-to-day involvement with was only going to be a disaster. The best thing that happened to the remake bringing it in-house last year. The second best thing that can happen to the remake would be for Square Enix to be less ambitious particularly if it doesn’t want to devote the same amount of resources as a new project.

For anyone wondering why Square Enix is releasing the origin with a remake in development, my best guess is the company is changing so much of the original game with the remake so it can sell people two versions of the same game.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: pokepal148 on September 15, 2018, 04:53:23 AM
Quote from: Adrock on September 15, 2018, 12:32:39 AM
This is why announcing a game years in advance is a terrible idea.

There’s also a disconnect between what fans have been asking for and what Square Enix has announced it is planning. Fans pretty much want Final Fantasy VII with fully 3D high definition assets, and to that end, farming out the remake to an outside developer makes sense. Said team would largely need only oversight and supervision especially if given the PC source code.

But Square Enix practically wants a brand new game with the original scenario as the skeleton for the remake. It has very specific aims for this project and trying to relay all of it to an external, contracted team it doesn’t have direct day-to-day involvement with was only going to be a disaster. The best thing that happened to the remake bringing it in-house last year. The second best thing that can happen to the remake would be for Square Enix to be less ambitious particularly if it doesn’t want to devote the same amount of resources as a new project.

For anyone wondering why Square Enix is releasing the origin with a remake in development, my best guess is the company is changing so much of the original game with the remake so it can sell people two versions of the same game.
No the best thing to happen to the remake is for Nomura to be kicked off. I need to get back to my stupid kingdom hearts thing but from what I've heard Nomura is really good at managing projects, hence why FF15 was rebooted 18 times until he was kicked out of that mess.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: Stratos on September 15, 2018, 02:14:14 PM
I can see there being a market for both versions, as older fans will want the "retro" game with less jaggies and newer fans will want something more in line with their tastes.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: pokepal148 on September 15, 2018, 04:12:06 PM
For me, the version of FF7 that became as iconic as the game is is the PS1 version so that's the version I'm interested in playing for the first time. If Square is doing some kind of reimagining than I can't say i'm particularly interested in that kind of thing.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: broodwars on September 15, 2018, 07:01:01 PM
Quote from: pokepal148 on September 15, 2018, 04:53:23 AM
Quote from: Adrock on September 15, 2018, 12:32:39 AM
This is why announcing a game years in advance is a terrible idea.

There’s also a disconnect between what fans have been asking for and what Square Enix has announced it is planning. Fans pretty much want Final Fantasy VII with fully 3D high definition assets, and to that end, farming out the remake to an outside developer makes sense. Said team would largely need only oversight and supervision especially if given the PC source code.

But Square Enix practically wants a brand new game with the original scenario as the skeleton for the remake. It has very specific aims for this project and trying to relay all of it to an external, contracted team it doesn’t have direct day-to-day involvement with was only going to be a disaster. The best thing that happened to the remake bringing it in-house last year. The second best thing that can happen to the remake would be for Square Enix to be less ambitious particularly if it doesn’t want to devote the same amount of resources as a new project.

For anyone wondering why Square Enix is releasing the origin with a remake in development, my best guess is the company is changing so much of the original game with the remake so it can sell people two versions of the same game.
No the best thing to happen to the remake is for Nomura to be kicked off. I need to get back to my stupid kingdom hearts thing but from what I've heard Nomura is really good at managing projects, hence why FF15 was rebooted 18 times until he was kicked out of that mess.

And yet, Final Fantasy 15 STILL released unfinished and largely dissatisfied people, and Square Enix has had it in AAA Early Access for years. With the DLC coming out next year, they MIGHT actually have a finished game.

Personally, as someone who didn't love FF7 when it came out, I'm happy they're stripping that PoS down and rebuilding it from scratch into a modern game. I just wish that didn't also mean that that was pretty much all Square Enix was making for the next 5 years outside of yet more Marvel garbage and Just Cause.

Remaking FF7 was a fool's errand. You keep it basically the same with new graphics, and its dated design detracts from people's memory of it as a good game. You completely rebuild it, and you piss off the people who haven't played it in 20 years and remember it as better than it actually was. Yet, here we are because heaven forbid the FF7 fanbase doesn't, for the first time in their lives, get something they demand.

In case I'm being too subtle, I despise the entitlement of the general FF7 fanbase. They've had 3 games, a movie, and multiple animated spin-offs (not to mention cameos in other games), and yet that's still not enough so here we are. No other Final Fantasy fanbase gets catered to as much as that one, and no other Final Fantasy fanbase is as whiny.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: RPG_FAN128 on September 15, 2018, 07:06:21 PM
I have consistently said that my favorite Final Fantasy game on Nintendo consoles is the black sheep of the family (Crystal Bearers for Wii).  I don't know what to do with my life now. 
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Is Being Well Represented On Switch
Post by: broodwars on September 15, 2018, 07:07:06 PM
Quote from: RPG_FAN128 on September 15, 2018, 07:06:21 PM
I have consistently said that my favorite Final Fantasy game on Nintendo consoles is the black sheep of the family (Crystal Bearers for Wii).  I don't know what to do with my life now.

One day, I'll get around to playing my copy of that game.