Post by: Mario on August 16, 2003, 07:04:18 PM
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I have a very reliable source, a person without a name deep inside the situation who calls himself CSM, that says in 2005 Nintendo & Sony will be collarborating on a console that will be neither the PS3 or Gamecube 2, but a whole new product designed to single handedly destroy Microsoft from the videogame scene for good.
Think back to the middle 90's ... Nintendo and Sony agreed in principle for a collaborating system to be used in conjunction with the Super Nintendo. Nintendo axed the deal in fear that they would lose money and have Sony essentially make a 'hostile takeover' of Nintendo technology. Sony eventually dominated as we all know.
Fast forward to early 2000, super secret talks began on a collabortion between the two companies .... Sony would pay an undisclosed amount of money for Nintendo to essentially can their next console and work only on the PS2, Sony in fear from looming threats of Microsoft, and possible collaboration between Sega. Nintendo again canned the deal in hopes that teaming with Panasonic would make a meaningful attack on the multimedia world, but Panasonic has had minor interest in this campaign.
Early this year talks resumed again ... Nintendo in a deeper hole than every before, and a threat of Microsoft on the horizon, Sony needed a big gun to do it all. Sony has agreed in principle to let Nintendo design several game specific functions of the next console, ironically, and cryptically called Playstation Nintendo 05 (P.N. 05 ... ring a bell?). Capcom's in the know on this and has cryptically sent out messages such as this in their games. Meanwhile the 'Game Designer's Studio' a self made fund by Nintendo to secretly disribute funds back and forth to and from Sony (which owns a high percentage of Square-Enix ... Crystal Chronicles? ... Wink Wink?). Expect a major announcement on the horizon.
Post by: kennyb27 on August 16, 2003, 07:36:34 PM
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Post by: KDR_11k on August 16, 2003, 10:30:20 PM
Post by: Pale on August 16, 2003, 11:07:44 PM
=P
(sorry, i had to)
Post by: PIAC on August 17, 2003, 01:15:19 AM
megaton indeed!the sony nintendo playstation gamecube?
allthough my initial reaction is to go -wtf... this is bs... but hey, stranger things have happened
Post by: rpglover on August 17, 2003, 04:50:57 AM
Post by: BlkPaladin on August 17, 2003, 08:51:10 AM
And the part that said Nintendo was in a deep hole.
Then there is other factors such as the PSP, Sony whould have to basically junk it because of Nintendo Philosphy.
Post by: Pale on August 17, 2003, 09:00:05 AM
Post by: Celebi on August 17, 2003, 09:15:28 AM
Well without Sony's approval don't you think FF series could have made it successfully to the Gamecube and was sold so many copies in Japan even in the first week?Sony might be indirectly helping Nintendo.
Nintendo going with Microsoft?Well after having Rare and most talents flock to MS don't you think Nintendo is thinking of teaming up with their rival?Even worst still MS now wants the best out of ATI and snatch the whole thing up leaving Nintendo with the less powerful GPU.
One last thing though do you think Nvidia will let MS kick them around and going out with ATI?Remember Nvidia recently kept praising the new PS3 architecture?If you think carefully how the hell they know that the PS3 is revolutionary?Well the answer is quite simple,those folks at Nvidia could have some information about the PS3 and they are not leaking anything yet.Clue?Nvidia next generation GPUs will be made by IBM for your information and that list will include the NV38..NV40 onwards.Who is IBM with today?Even if the PS3 will not have Nvidia directly designing a GPU for them they will have some sort of technology which is linked to computer graphic cards..
Post by: rpglover on August 17, 2003, 12:43:47 PM
nintendo doesnt care if it has the most powerful graphics processor or most ram or the fastest clock speed
when nintendo makes a chip for their new system, they give a long list of specifications to the company who then makes the chips according to nintendo's wants and needs- when it is all set and done, nintendo has what they want and what they need to work with to create their games- that is what i like about nintendo
look at the processor and graphics chip inside the gamecube- on paper it seems like microsoft would have the advantage (faster clock speed, more ram) but in reality, both systems can push out the same quality graphics and effects- nintendo will get the chips they need to do the things they need it to do- its as simple as that- microsoft partnering with ATI will not affect nintendo at all- and i doubt microsoft is going to just throw money at ATI and say- "make ours the best chip set and screw nintendo over!"
so basically i dont think nintendo will partner with anyone for their next system at all- besides dont they want to take down sony?
Post by: manunited4eva22 on August 17, 2003, 01:10:30 PM
DO you have any idea how large a company IBM is? They literally have a dozen design teams. I don't mean like 60 people design teams, I mean like full blown hardware/ software manufacturers.
IBM is very capable of taking on several completely new designs and still have time for other things.
Post by: kennyb27 on August 17, 2003, 02:02:40 PM
QuoteYup, PSP = "PlayStation Portable." It has nothing to do with Nintendo's SP.
The Gameboy Advanced newest model is called the SP and Sony is calling their new handheld console the PSP?
QuoteYes, Final Fantasy began on the NES and the rights to the game are owned by Square who is a third party company. And the Final Fantasy name is what sold the games, it was gameplay and the FF name that sold the games, not some giant conspiracy theory.
Well without Sony's approval don't you think FF series could have made it successfully to the Gamecube and was sold so many copies in Japan even in the first week?
QuoteYeah, Rare and who else? You're making absolutely no sense.
Well after having Rare and most talents flock to MS don't you think Nintendo is thinking of teaming up with their rival?
Post by: Uglydot on August 17, 2003, 02:31:11 PM
Post by: manunited4eva22 on August 17, 2003, 04:19:16 PM
and not really about AMD.
They have teamed with motorolla, apple, just many companies and they don't always rise.
Post by: Pale on August 17, 2003, 05:21:34 PM
Post by: PIAC on August 17, 2003, 06:18:45 PM
'i got a bad feeling about this' - leia, something is up... its probably a giant hoax.. but still... my nintendo sence is tingleing
Post by: Pale on August 17, 2003, 08:31:12 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on August 17, 2003, 09:10:54 PM
I think all this "team up on someone" stuff is bull####. Why should they team up? Sony doesn't need a partner, they're doing well without one. MS wants total domination, a partner would eventually get in the way. Nintendo produces good games and hardware by itself, all a partner could give it would be image. And that doesn't justify the cost of a partner.
For the japanese people and companies the XBox is just a bug waiting for the boot to squish it, so why bother? After all, the japanese sales numbers don't put the XBox anywhere above the NeoGeo, CDi or other failed "bug consoles".
Post by: Pale on August 17, 2003, 10:01:55 PM
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Post by: Celebi on August 17, 2003, 11:33:23 PM
If Nintendo was to go with Microsoft,its a matter of time MS will dumped them later when they achieve their goal of domination.Look what happened to Sega and Nvidia.MS just dumped them as though they got a new mistress.Sega had to quit the console business.Nvidia's market share is still reducing today and if they don't do something this will get worst still when MS gives priority to ATI in the next DirectX designs and workings.
I wouldn't want to see the Asian companies fail or else we will never have chance to see much growth anymore. Remember those days when 3DFX Glide was the only 3D API before DirectX came out?3D graphic technologies were advancing so fast that time not until MS came in with their DirectX to compete.|Those who wanted the upper hand had to pleased or coorperate with MS or else get the leftovers.
Post by: BlkPaladin on August 17, 2003, 11:57:57 PM
Post by: PIAC on August 18, 2003, 01:40:30 AM
nintendo may not be doing well in the eyes of the internet, but if i didn't have the internet and only read gaming magazines that focused only on nintendo, I would figure they were leading out of PS2 and Xbawx for sheer number of great titles coming up.
Post by: BlkPaladin on August 18, 2003, 11:14:38 AM
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Post by: Pale on August 18, 2003, 09:10:22 PM
Post by: Celebi on August 18, 2003, 10:30:58 PM
Post by: PIAC on August 18, 2003, 11:43:04 PM
Post by: Celebi on August 18, 2003, 11:57:43 PM
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11039
"ATI severed contacts with Nintendo earlier this year"
http://stacks.msnbc.com/news/949543.asp?0dm=c21bt&cp1=1
-Satoru Iwata promised the struggling games company was developing a radical new product to be announced next year
-He gave few details save to say it would be a departure from mainstream gaming consoles “that will have a big impact on the world”.
-Mr Iwata declined to provide any more details about what kind of new product Nintendo is working on, saying only that the company would make a further announcement with details next spring
Post by: KDR_11k on August 19, 2003, 07:31:38 AM
Post by: The Omen on August 19, 2003, 01:03:20 PM
Post by: ThePerm on August 19, 2003, 01:51:18 PM
When did the industry become a pit of aligators?
Post by: Berny on August 19, 2003, 04:08:19 PM
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Originally posted by: ThePerm
When did the industry become a pit of aligators?
When The Crocodile Hunter went mad and started eating them.
They had to go somewhere.Post by: BlkPaladin on August 19, 2003, 06:18:31 PM
But here is the thing about monopolies it both encourages and discourages inovations. And there is a point when the free market collapses because of all the me to companies that drown out inovation.
Accually their is a lot to be said in defense of having a monopoly in control of an industry, one is price to consumer its accually lower in a monopoly setting.
Post by: Celebi on August 19, 2003, 10:14:58 PM
Post by: BigJim on August 19, 2003, 11:31:36 PM
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Originally posted by: BlkPaladin
Accually their is a lot to be said in defense of having a monopoly in control of an industry, one is price to consumer its accually lower in a monopoly setting.
You must be the first source I have ever heard that from.
Post by: Pale on August 20, 2003, 08:10:40 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on August 20, 2003, 09:21:56 AM
Post by: Uglydot on August 23, 2003, 10:57:58 AM
PaleZero...neat case, though those are expensive, I have a hatred for that keyboard, however. :-)
Post by: Pale on August 23, 2003, 01:40:08 PM
I wasn't broke when I get the case however....
it was kind of frivilous(sp?) spending. I did the window mod myself. I think it came out pretty good. Could be a little better though.
Post by: JSasky on August 25, 2003, 06:59:48 PM
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this is an early sign of having too much stock onboard, that is all, when the current stock is cleared out they will reopen production, i think xbawx stopped production for a wee bit aswell.
It means that they didnt' sell as many units as they thought they were going too. Oh well, I am optimistic that this could be one of Nintendo's biggest Xmas coming up. Man do they ever have a lot of sweet ass games coming out if the current line up of games coming out can't sell systems, then I dont what will.
As for the consiparacy theory, I totally believe it. Then again I also believe that there is a secret alien group called the greys building a human camp on Mars where only the elite and influeintial will be able to live. Well the rest of us wallow and die in catastrophic enviromental world events.
Post by: PIAC on August 25, 2003, 08:52:04 PM
and yes, i also belive that nintendo has this quater covered, in all regions. some big rpg's coming for japan, and harvest moon, soul calibur, f-zero gx, veiwtiful joe, mario kart DD, mario golf for australia/europe etc
something for everyone! but.. not enough money -__-
Post by: norebonomis on August 28, 2003, 04:09:40 PM
Post by: The Omen on August 28, 2003, 06:22:56 PM
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As for the consiparacy theory, I totally believe it. Then again I also believe that there is a secret alien group called the greys building a human camp on Mars where only the elite and influeintial will be able to live. Well the rest of us wallow and die in catastrophic enviromental world events.
Thats a conspiracy theory? I thought that was common knowledge! Its called 'alternative 3' which.....nevermind
Anyway, the GC has the best lineup for a Nintendo system since the SNES. This holiday season is going to be expensive...
