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Title: windows security loophole #129015
Post by: PIAC on August 11, 2003, 11:54:37 PM
hello ladies and gentlemen, a serious post here

there is an exploit in windows that lets outsiders muck about, i wont say anymore, because i dont really know what to say, but ill give you the link to another forum which describes it and has a fix for it. oh! it onyl effects xp/2k/nt

go here
Title: RE: windows security loophole #129015
Post by: Termin8Anakin on August 12, 2003, 01:24:21 AM
this is about that LovSan virus currently sweeping the Internet isn't it?
Hahaha.
Go Windows 98 SE!!!!

Oh, and all you (Australian) Windows users might like to see this:
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/08/11/1060454133152.html
Title: RE:windows security loophole #129015
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on August 12, 2003, 01:42:38 AM
PC GAMER!  That's the magazine I subscribe to!  Funniest gaming mag. evar! Yay!
Title: RE: windows security loophole #129015
Post by: PIAC on August 12, 2003, 03:21:50 AM
yeah, in the 6 hours i  have known about it, i know atleast 20 people that have gotten it, it interupted our diablo game its pretty bad, so yeah, people, get your vacination!
Title: RE: windows security loophole #129015
Post by: nitsu niflheim on August 12, 2003, 03:40:58 AM
Thanks, I was getting royally pissed off last night.  Now I can fix it tonight when I get home.  I knew that my computers themselves weren't messed up, I thought it was MSN's fault, but thank's PIAC for posting this.  I had a feeling it was something with Window's like the whole messenger service thing that pissed me off several months ago.  
Title: RE: windows security loophole #129015
Post by: enigma487 on August 12, 2003, 05:59:16 AM
We got about 300 calls at work yesterday from people with this problem.  It was just ridiculous.  People!!  Keep your computer updated through Windows Update!!  which might be a problem since the virus creates a DOS attack on windowsupdate.com  which is actually quite cool.  
Title: RE: windows security loophole #129015
Post by: nitsu niflheim on August 12, 2003, 08:54:13 AM
well thats a catch 22, need to use WU, but DoS attacks WU, so no go.  Stupid all around, i downloaded the patch I need at work today so maybe I won't have to go through the holw riggermarole (sp?) and disabling stuff.  If not, at least I know what to do.  XP is nice, but it's quite obvious that XP is not so great.
Title: RE:windows security loophole #129015
Post by: Berny on August 12, 2003, 12:11:00 PM
I use a Mac. It's a piece o' crap but at least I don't need to worry about any viri. Viruses. Virusz. Security loopholes.
Title: RE:windows security loophole #129015
Post by: Ms.Pikmin on August 12, 2003, 02:01:19 PM
I've got a Mac too.  Yay Mac!   Don't hurt me.  
Title: RE: windows security loophole #129015
Post by: PIAC on August 12, 2003, 03:34:16 PM
amiga > *

but im glad i could help, try spread this around to everyone you know, link the link i linked here to other people.... link
Title: RE: windows security loophole #129015
Post by: nitsu niflheim on August 12, 2003, 04:12:09 PM
It helped me.  Now all I have to do is update my laptop tomorrow because I'm too lazy to do it tonight.
Title: RE:windows security loophole #129015
Post by: Berto2K on August 12, 2003, 11:01:23 PM
I have had my computer on and online for he last week straight.  Never have had the virus.  This update was available back in June if you used windows update.  It may be annoying to run, but it is necessary.  Oh, I have yet to reinstall my virus scan software since my hardrive failure last week too.

*note, hardrive failure not related to virus, damn you ibm
Title: RE: windows security loophole #129015
Post by: PIAC on August 12, 2003, 11:33:27 PM
i run windows update, with the amount of security fixes in it i would be stupid not to, so i was probably clean before i got this patch, but i dont really keep track of what updates.

but the lesson here is, use windows updates! it is free after all!
Title: RE: windows security loophole #129015
Post by: KnowsNothing on August 13, 2003, 05:28:18 AM
I didn't go to the link so I don't know if this is the same virus I got 2 days ago.  

MSBlast it's called, and it shuts down and restarts your computer every five or so minutes.  A royal pain in the ass if you ask me.  But the patch is out and all is well.

That's why I haven't posted in a day or so, but i odubt anyine has noticed.
Title: RE:windows security loophole #129015
Post by: Grey Ninja on August 13, 2003, 05:30:17 AM
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Originally posted by: Berny
I use a Mac. It's a piece o' crap but at least I don't need to worry about any viri. Viruses. Virusz. Security loopholes.


That's because nothing is compatable with Macs... even the viruses don't like touching them.  
Title: RE: windows security loophole #129015
Post by: nitsu niflheim on August 13, 2003, 05:52:56 AM
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but the lesson here is, use windows updates! it is free after all!


yes, but MS could have done a lot better job of getting the word out.  I am a MSN subscriber and never received anything about it.  That was very irresponsible of MS not to let its subscribers know.  Windows Update is not enough if people, ordinary people don't know that there is a security flaw in the operating system.
Title: RE: windows security loophole #129015
Post by: PIAC on August 13, 2003, 09:57:06 AM
oh dont get me wrong nitsu, im not supporting microsoft at all, if they did their job this problem wouldn't exist.

btw knowsnothing, goto the link now! NNNNNNNOW!
Title: RE:windows security loophole #129015
Post by: ThePerm on August 13, 2003, 10:11:54 AM
i missed murray too...thank god he's back , and istill use windows 98. Im so used to it.  
Title: RE: windows security loophole #129015
Post by: nitsu niflheim on August 13, 2003, 10:17:14 AM
I knew you weren't PIAC, I was just ranting that MS didn't do a good enough job.  They have MSN, Hotmail and probably other avenues to get the message out and I have MSN and Hotmail and never received word about the flaw.  I didn't know what the hell was happening until I saw you had posted this topic the next day when I got to work.  I will be more diligent with Windows Updates, even though I have slow 56K connection and some of those updates are rather large.
Title: RE:windows security loophole #129015
Post by: Ridley on August 13, 2003, 10:44:36 AM
"it onyl effects xp/2k/nt"

We have Windows ME, is that the same as 2000?

EDIT: Never mind. I found out.
Title: RE: windows security loophole #129015
Post by: PIAC on August 13, 2003, 10:03:17 PM
for future reference to anyone else looking no, it does not effect windows 95/98/Me
Title: RE:windows security loophole #129015
Post by: Berto2K on August 13, 2003, 11:28:32 PM
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Originally posted by: Ridley
"it onyl effects xp/2k/nt"

We have Windows ME, is that the same as 2000?

EDIT: Never mind. I found out.


God, how can you live with that operating system.  It is so unstable.  Worst OS for crashes MS has ever put out.
Title: RE:windows security loophole #129015
Post by: nitsu niflheim on August 14, 2003, 03:31:11 AM
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Originally posted by: PIAC
for future reference to anyone else looking no, it does not effect windows 95/98/Me


If it doesn't effect ME then why is all the links I have been to, especially the ones to give the tool to remove the worm, have ME down as OS that it does effect?

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.blaster.worm.removal.tool.html
Title: RE: windows security loophole #129015
Post by: Termin8Anakin on August 14, 2003, 03:54:27 AM
mate, i have no idea.
Just be glad for those of us with 95 or 98, like me!
Yay!
Hahahaha!

*skips across internet fields without a care in the world*
Title: RE: windows security loophole #129015
Post by: nitsu niflheim on August 14, 2003, 06:19:51 AM
Well I have fixed both my desktop and laptop, both running XP so I can skip across internet fields without a care in the world right along with you.  The computers at work frun 98 so they are old and safe.  
Title: RE: windows security loophole #129015
Post by: PIAC on August 14, 2003, 09:55:52 AM
how odd... the microsoft page i got didn't mention Me at all, only NT/2k/2k3/xp

how odd... unless the worm has been modified to effect Me..
Title: RE:windows security loophole #129015
Post by: Ridley on August 14, 2003, 11:08:11 AM
"God, how can you live with that operating system. It is so unstable. Worst OS for crashes MS has ever put out."

That would explain a few things. Well, let's just say that the switch on our computer's powerbar has been getting a fair amount of use.

"If it doesn't effect ME then why is all the links I have been to, especially the ones to give the tool to remove the worm, have ME down as OS that it does effect?

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.blaster.worm.removal.tool.html"

That site doesn't mention anything about ME being affected. It does, however give a link to a Microsoft Security Bulliten that has this list:

"Affected Software:

Microsoft Windows NT® 4.0
Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 Terminal Services Edition
Microsoft Windows 2000
Microsoft Windows XP
Microsoft Windows Serverâ„¢ 2003

Not Affected Software:

Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition"

So ME is not affected.
Title: RE: windows security loophole #129015
Post by: nitsu niflheim on August 14, 2003, 01:15:53 PM
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click Start to begin the process, and then allow the tool to run.
If you are using Windows Me, then re-enable System Restore.


This is from the same link I posted earlier?  Why is ME mentioned if not affected?




 
Title: RE:windows security loophole #129015
Post by: Ridley on August 14, 2003, 08:47:36 PM
"This is from the same link I posted earlier? Why is ME mentioned if not affected?"

How was that little bit at the end more official than the list I got from http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-026.asp which would be an official source?

And why not go http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=823980 which also gives a list of what is affected? You'll notice that ME is not mentioned on these lists. So explain how these are wrong. As these lists say, only Windows NT 4.0, Windows XP, Windows 2000, and Windows 2003 servers (all versions of each) are affected.  
Title: RE: windows security loophole #129015
Post by: nitsu niflheim on August 15, 2003, 03:31:26 AM
I never said it was official, I just asked why ME was even mentioned if it's not affected.  And ME was listed on the Update page for the patch when I whent o get it earlier in the week.  I'm not crazy, and I'm not stupid,  I'm not trying to claim ME is affected, I am merely stating that it was at one time listed as an affected OS.  And why is some places still listing ME/XP, if ME isn't affected at all, shouldn't ME be taken out since ME and XP are different OS?
Title: RE:windows security loophole #129015
Post by: Ridley on August 15, 2003, 09:55:11 AM
Right now, ME is listed as NOT AFFECTED. End of story.