Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: theRPGFreak on August 08, 2003, 06:52:48 PM
Title: "Suprising and Unique"
Post by: theRPGFreak on August 08, 2003, 06:52:48 PM
The president of Nintendo recently said that the next Gamecube console will be "suprising and unique." I am sure that rumors are already flying around the intrenet about what he said, so that is the resaon why I am poasting this. I would like to get an idea from other Nintendo fans of what the next console will have that he meant of this.
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Post by: PIAC on August 08, 2003, 06:56:48 PM
i dont think it will be anyhting surprising or unique, its just the hype machine starting early, and well, it worked for playstation 2, it can work for nintendo also
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Post by: theRPGFreak on August 08, 2003, 07:02:23 PM
I don't know about that. The problem with what we have seen with the PS2 GC and XBOX is that all that really seems to matter is what gaems they each have that the other system does not. I honestly think that with the new system, we will see Nintendo make the new GBA and the new GC much more similar to each other, seeing how this is something that the other consoles are not going to do.
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Post by: DRJ on August 08, 2003, 07:35:22 PM
They're going to announce the limited edition yellow gamecube and pink poca dot gbasp.
Seriously I dont understand why whenever anything vague is said about something new people start going crazy with what it is. time and time again it turns out to be something minor, since our expectations are so high.
Just wait and find out.
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Post by: theRPGFreak on August 08, 2003, 08:01:36 PM
You make a good point there DRJ, but all that I am saying is that Nintendo likes to do things unique and diffrent. Now that they have a new President who seems much more focussed than the last, I really think that Nintendo will do something this time around to stand out rather than just have a purple console in the shape of a lunch box. My theory is that the GBA will take Nintendo's connectivity idea to the next level, and we will see online play have some sort of role in this.
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Post by: Ms.Pikmin on August 08, 2003, 09:22:18 PM
the RPGFreak, you may want to check the Fast Forward board. There are tons of posts with speculation on the next console.
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Post by: Gibdo Master on August 08, 2003, 09:38:45 PM
I just wanted to point out that we don't know that the "new product which will be surprising and unique" is the next Nintendo console. For one thing Iwata calls it a "new product" and he also addresses the next Nintendo console and handheld separately albeit vaguely. Even when asked whether this new product would be a next generation console or software Iwata wouldn't answer. This tells me it could be either one.
I personally have been thinking that this "new product which will be surprising and unique" will be like the VirtualBoy in the sense that it will be a third and separate gaming device from the next console and handheld. Considering Iwata's extremely cryptic and vague statement though it just as well could be a new peripheral, game, or completely new gaming device. It could very be the next console or handheld as well.
All I'm really certain of is that it better be worth all the hype and the long wait till it's finally announced.
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Post by: Michael8983 on August 08, 2003, 10:00:51 PM
I think it will actually be a PART of its new console. Some kind of new accessory that will allow people to play games in a new way. Likely something to make games more accessible to people. That seemed to be the focus of the conference where this thing was announced. That Nintendo wants its games to be easier to pick up and play. I think it will end up being something really simple but ingenius. One of those things that ends up seeming like such an obvious step forward even though no one had either thought of it or found a way to make it practical before.
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Post by: Mario on August 08, 2003, 10:03:39 PM
When did anyone say anything about another console? Never. "New game product" does NOT mean console.
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Post by: Bishman on August 08, 2003, 10:06:24 PM
I think it will be a GC SP. Something like that.
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Post by: rpglover on August 09, 2003, 05:38:36 AM
maybe its super mario 128- miyamoto did say that the new mario game will be fresh and new and they did not show it claiming that the game play could be stolen then but who knows- maybe it is just the new nintendo system
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Post by: Pale on August 09, 2003, 05:44:12 AM
I think its a VR rig of some kind....
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Post by: Rich on August 09, 2003, 09:21:16 AM
no i don't think Nintendo wants to go back to VR waters. that thing totally bombed and i think Nintendo learned its lesson the first time around.
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Post by: Nintendo Gamecube on August 09, 2003, 09:33:21 AM
It is one of these things, take your pick:
-New Nintendo Console -New Gameboy Machine -Mario 128
I doubt they would unveil a new peripheral. How much hype can you give it? I mean this is going to be unveiled at E3 2004; it has to be bigger than that.
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Post by: theRPGFreak on August 09, 2003, 09:56:15 AM
Now that I think about it, maybee it might be something that hooks u pto the GabeCube itself as a new playing device, sort of how DDR was the first game to use a dance pad or how Duck Hunt used a gun first. It could be something that will let gamers play Mario 128 in a whole new way...
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Post by: SuperLink666 on August 09, 2003, 09:59:21 AM
Wireless gun controller with a new duck hunt game
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Post by: Pale on August 09, 2003, 10:00:11 AM
Virtual Boy wasn't VR. I'm talking full gyroscopic motion sensing of your head movements... imagine the new metroid title where when you turn your head, you actually look that way. Didn't Kodak announce that Nintendo was going to be using their new screens a while back????
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Post by: Michael8983 on August 09, 2003, 11:00:29 AM
I think controllers with built in gyroscopes could fit the bill. That would definitly make some games easier to pick up and play. You could use the entire controller as a steering wheel or a flight-yolk, etc... The geniuses at Nintendo could no doubt come up with all kinds of neat uses for it. Actually, it's already been toying with tilt-sensing with Kirby's Tilt-N-Tumble for the GB and that strange Gamecube title which was originally a Kirby game but was changed. Having the feature be a standard for its next-gen controllers would definitly have a big effect on how games are developed and how they're played. Plus it would give the new console a nice gimmick to get people interested in it and an exclusive feature to lure third-parties. It would also serve as a baby-step into virtual reality. Nintendo's NEXT next console could pair it with actual VR glasses for a full virtual reality effect.
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Post by: MagicToenail on August 09, 2003, 01:15:15 PM
Does anyone remember the old power glove for NES? I still use that all the time, along with my virtual boy. The Virtual Reality concept wouild be awesome. You could have glasses and just like whoever said, when you turn your head its like turning the camera, and the power glove could be a part of it too. You would see the action first hand and your friends would see it on the screen. Nintendo could sell BILLIONS!!! BILLIOONS!!! MEGATON!!!!!
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Post by: Mario on August 09, 2003, 04:38:04 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Nintendo Gamecube It is one of these things, take your pick:
-New Nintendo Console -New Gameboy Machine -Mario 128
I doubt they would unveil a new peripheral. How much hype can you give it? I mean this is going to be unveiled at E3 2004; it has to be bigger than that.
Spot on. Either one of them, or another game. But whatever it is, its going to be revolutionary.
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Post by: DRJ on August 09, 2003, 07:27:42 PM
I really think that they will introduce some info on their gba-sp successor. The psp is getting a lot of hype, and they need to put something out there to let people know that they have something better in mind.
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Post by: KDR_11k on August 09, 2003, 07:34:06 PM
Eh... Tilt controllers aren't new. You remember the Microsoft Sidewinder Freestyle Pro? My friend has one of those. A gamepad with tilt sensor. Though one cannot use it properly for anything but Motocross Madness...
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Post by: BigJim on August 09, 2003, 10:07:01 PM
I think it could be internet connectivity. It's vague enough to be for this console and the next.
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Post by: AgentSeven on August 09, 2003, 11:07:54 PM
"Suprising and Unique"
....It's not another console, too early for that. Plus "NES-5" goes far beyond any of the current speculation.
....It's not a game.
....It's also not a gimmik item with limited appeal such as a new controller, dance pad, etc...
....It's not internet connectivity. Sega already did that well over 2 1/2 years ago. Plus no one mentions that for the most part X-Box live and the Ps2 online campaigns have failed. Ps2 online has been and probably will continue to be ruined by online cheating. And really, is there anything AT ALL worth playing on X-Box live?! Online is OLD NEWS. Dreamcast old.
I suspect that at least one person around here already knows exactly what this "suprising and unique" new item will be.
Isn't it amazing how tight lipped the video game indusry is? I mean, I can read a movie script years before the films actual release. Yet major video game news outlets can't uncover even the slightest detail of any "industry secret" without the approval of their corporate masters.
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Post by: shadow on August 10, 2003, 09:30:40 PM
Nintendo really wants keep it's firm grip on the handheld market, because it makes more money then the GameCube, and correct me if I'm wrong the PS2. So they are probably going all out trying to make the best little handheld video game device that they can, just to leave Sony in the dust.
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Post by: Termin8Anakin on August 11, 2003, 01:51:47 AM
Thats putting it VERY broadly.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 11, 2003, 02:14:02 AM
MEGATON!
BANZAI!
MAY YOUR SCHWARTZ BE WITH YOU!
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Post by: Ian Sane on August 11, 2003, 08:08:28 AM
Since Nintendo decribes nearly EVERYTHING they ever do as "surprising", "unique", "innovative", "like nothing you've seen before", etc I'm not going to get too hyped for this in case it's a let down. I mean this is the company that kept the waterpack in Super Mario Sunshine underwraps because they were afraid that everyone would steal the idea. Funny how that "great" idea hasn't been ripped off by anyone a year later, huh?
Nintendo has always thought their stuff is way better than anyone else thinks so it's not unknown of them to hype up the lamest thing imaginable. Therefore I think we shouldn't get to overhyped when for all we know it could be nothing more than a new Pokemon Snap with a "surprising and unique" camera controller.
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Post by: Michael8983 on August 11, 2003, 12:32:40 PM
Actually, I think Nintendo is wrongly accused of over-hyping. Like the water-pack. It was the fans who assumed it had to be some amazing innovation just because Nintendo wasn't revealing its purpose. It's just Nintendo's policy to be secretive with every little thing. I don't recall it ever suggesting the water-pack was anything to be that excited about. It's the same with many of Nintendo's other games and products. The fans are the ones who hype them up to unbelievable levels, not Nintendo. Then Nintendo gets blamed when some of its games and products aren't the amazing world-changing multi-million selling phenomenons it never actually promised they'd be.
I think we'll see something similar here. Nintendo's promise of something "surprsing and unique" will be distorted into being a promise of something "that will change gaming forever, destroy the competition, and restore Nintendo to the first place!". Then people will blame Nintendo for over-hyping the announcement when it was really the fans who did it.
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Post by: AgentSeven on August 11, 2003, 06:02:35 PM
N64's analog stick was a total innovation. One that changed gaming as we know it. It's an idea that was quickly stolen by the no-talent idiots over at $ony.
That's only one example. There are many, many, many other examples of Nintendo leading the way when it comes to innovation.
Nintendo has good reason to keep this suprise underwraps. Everyone in the world has ripped them off at one time or another. This list includes Atari, Sega, and most of all $ony, who wouldn't even be where they are today without copying Nintendo. Remember the PlayStation was colored grey because $ony thought it would remind people of the Ultra-Successful NES.
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Post by: Termin8Anakin on August 11, 2003, 06:16:58 PM
Ian Sane: Nintendo describes all their new things as 'suprising', 'unique' and 'innovative' cause 97% of the time they are, whether it's a new console, handheld or game.
Mario's waterpack wasn't really innovative in itself as much as it provided gamers with a new way of playing a Mario game. How many times did you forget in those bonus levels that you didn't have the water pack, and missed that jump cause you relied on the hover feature? I know I did. And while Mario's water pack wasn't ripped off (maybe there is a game with a water pack somewhere), Luigi's Mansion was ripped off by Blinx.
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Post by: BlkPaladin on August 11, 2003, 07:04:21 PM
Accually if Nintendo plans to have their console out before the PS3 this is spring is the perfect time to start talking about it. Because if they wait until the E3 just before launch in 2005 they will miss the boat considerably.
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Post by: AgentSeven on August 11, 2003, 09:27:32 PM
"....an online plan that includes downloading NES,SNES, and N64 Classics. These same games can then be played on the console or the handheld..."
Also what about that Final Fantasy 7 Remake for GC?
(I don't mean the planned sequel of FF7 either)
Have Fun
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Post by: BlkPaladin on August 11, 2003, 09:40:20 PM
I guess that is the problem with vague announcements about an annoucement in the future. It leads to overspeculation.
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Post by: AgentSeven on August 13, 2003, 01:21:51 PM
Read the above
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 13, 2003, 11:30:37 PM
I rather have a remake of the SNES FF's and Chrono Trigger than FF7 but thats just me heh. I guess we just gotta wait till next year for nintendo's offerings and Nintendo's offerings are pretty good but not to the mainstream crowd
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Post by: PIAC on August 14, 2003, 12:06:32 AM
i just want a pal release for chronotrigger
but it wont happen, it better not too, cause i just bought a copy off ebay for $50au + postige
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Post by: Aussie Ben PGC on August 14, 2003, 03:21:31 AM
Quote Luigi's Mansion was ripped off by Blinx.
Okay, not that I think that Blinx is the biggest thing since sliced bread, but have you even played it?
- Luigi's Mansion is a fixed camera game where Luigi sucks up ghosts in a haunted house using a vaccuum cleaner and can shoot out fire, ice and water.
- Blinx is a free roaming camera 3-D platformer where the main purpose is to solve puzzles by stopping, rewinding and fast forwarding time. Blinx has a vaccuum cleaner that can be used to suck up all enemies and most of the scenery and fire them back at other enemies.
The only similarity that these games share is that they have vaccuum cleaners that suck things up. But wait...didn't Kirby suck enemies up? OH MY GOD THEY'RE ALL RIPOFF COPYRITE KIRBY!!!!
*sigh*
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Post by: Termin8Anakin on August 14, 2003, 04:07:05 AM
OMG! Aussie Ben's on the forums!
I know what the differences are between Luigi's Mansion and Blinx.........i was just trying to make a (poor?) attempt at flaming the Xbox. And yes, I have played Blinx. But obviously I don't have an Xbox and the game, so my comments may be pretty much ignored cause it's based off a demo. I just don't really prefer platform games with techno music, as it really gets annoying after a while. I'm not saying the game sucks, as that would be stupid, and I would become just like the millions of ignorant Xbox and PS2 fanboys who diss Zelda and Mario. I'm sure the game is good, but I neither have the time nor effort to search out the vast populous of Sydney to find someone who DOES have the full game.
All in all, it's nice to see you here on the forums Ben!!
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Post by: Aussie Ben PGC on August 14, 2003, 05:10:50 AM
Heh - thanks. I do read the forums a lot, but there's not often I find something I can post that I think is interesting. ;-) Like I said though, I didn't really think Blinx was spectacular, but it's frustrating to see people label a game a 'clone' when it's not - no matter what system it's for. I'm planning to get myself an Xbox when Grabbed by the Ghoulies (OMG LUIGISMANSION RIPEOF!) comes out.
Righto, carry on. As you were, everyone.
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Post by: Termin8Anakin on August 14, 2003, 05:17:31 AM
Hmmmm, your faith in Rare's first didn't-start-on-a-nintendo-system game is strong i must say, despite mostly negative opinions. I won't buy any of Rare's Xbox games, mainly cause I'm a stubborn bitch and seeing them praising Microsoft is just something I still can't stand. I MIGHT play them, but i can't assure you of that........ Althought I will go into hiding when any Rare Xbox ads come on TV, cause i will still not have gotten over it..
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Post by: Bill Aurion on August 14, 2003, 05:24:06 AM
The only game that has the power to make me get an X-box is Banjo-Kazooie. I still wish Ninty had bought the rights from Rare. ^_^
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Post by: GaimeGuy on August 14, 2003, 08:22:11 AM
uh considering Rare is OWNED by MS, there's no surprise that Rare is praising MS. I mean, you praise your boss when he's around, right?
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Post by: PIAC on August 14, 2003, 10:22:30 AM
well i call one of them ghey most of the time and then the other boss joins in (he is actually ghey) pretty funny really, and ben posted! there is a rare occurance! (pun not intended)
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Post by: norebonomis on August 14, 2003, 07:37:55 PM
has anyone else speculated that nintendo may release a reincarnation of the 64DiskDrive that was never released in america? a gamecube version of the device maybe not a DISK drive, but a Hard drive that sipmly plugsinto the bottom
i really like the idea of downloading nes/snes/n64/gb/gbc/gba games to a hard drive and being able to play them. just ideas but these dreams are what i think about at night right before i doze off and join that big online game in my subconsious