Gaming Forums => General Gaming => Topic started by: King of Twitch on January 10, 2017, 09:54:16 PM
Title: Legend of Zelda: Canon Council
Post by: King of Twitch on January 10, 2017, 09:54:16 PM
Before Final Fantasy VII came around and ruined gaming forever with cutscenes and gamers were cooing over video games being art while having their diaper changed, everyone even the Pope discussed in a purely scholarly and reasonable manner at all times how LTTP and OOT could take place in the same timeline. The gray areas were left to the imagination and whimsy. No more. Now we're in the "entitled, whiny Millennial snot everything has to be explained and connected to other things we've already seen memberberryville, otherwise the developer doesn't care and should go out of business Era™". But what is the canon? What can change and what must stay the same before it veers off into sidequest and makes a right turn at reboot?
I’m on team anti-canon, or at least anti- most of it. Link's Awakening was completely different--characters, plot, and setting (but not the progression)--and it's one of the best games ever made. Link is supposed to be the player's avatar. I was the one that was shipwrecked. I was the one that was revived by Marin and Tarin. I rescued their village and brought food to a lost old man in the mountains. And I'll be darned if you tell me where it happened on a timeline. Because when that power switch goes on, I am the hero of legends.
Vote for which elements of the Zelda canon that you wouldn't miss and make your case in the thread.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda: Canon Council
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 10, 2017, 10:07:17 PM
There's one clear answer here, and it's the "Get 3 things, use them to acquire the master sword, and then get 6 more things so you can fight Ganon" setup. It's not like it's ever the same groups of things, so there's no canonical reason it has to be structured that way.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda: Canon Council
Post by: ShyGuy on January 10, 2017, 10:22:05 PM
Dampe lives!
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda: Canon Council
Post by: lolmonade on January 11, 2017, 11:12:35 AM
Going through this list....only things I find sacred about Zelda games are link as playable character, Triforce maguffin of power, and Master Sword existing and being the ultimate weapon.
I'm really flexible with Zelda games, probably part of why I liked Skyward Sword and am looking forward to Breath of the Wild, they were both departures in some ways from the prior games that make them distinct (BotW might be more traditional than I expect, given we've seen nothing but trailers & gameplay vids).
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda: Canon Council
Post by: Soren on January 11, 2017, 11:45:41 AM
I'll wait for the true Legend of Zelda with her as the main character. Until then, nothing is sacred. Upend the tea table.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda: Canon Council
Post by: Evan_B on January 11, 2017, 11:53:16 AM
Link should acquire new tools to overcome new obstacles. Those obstacles don't necessarily have to be in dungeons, though.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda: Canon Council
Post by: rygar on January 11, 2017, 12:15:31 PM
There's one clear answer here, and it's the "Get 3 things, use them to acquire the master sword, and then get 6 more things so you can fight Ganon" setup. It's not like it's ever the same groups of things, so there's no canonical reason it has to be structured that way.
I'm only now making my way through OoT and later. What about LoZ and AoL. It wasn't until I played LttP that I understood Master Sword didn't just mean Link's sword. Did they retcon it in to earlier games?
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda: Canon Council
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 11, 2017, 02:12:03 PM
There's one clear answer here, and it's the "Get 3 things, use them to acquire the master sword, and then get 6 more things so you can fight Ganon" setup. It's not like it's ever the same groups of things, so there's no canonical reason it has to be structured that way.
I'm only now making my way through OoT and later. What about LoZ and AoL. It wasn't until I played LttP that I understood Master Sword didn't just mean Link's sword. Did they retcon it in to earlier games?
It wasn't in those first two, but almost every console Zelda after those uses that structure.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda: Canon Council
Post by: rygar on January 11, 2017, 06:20:20 PM
I honed in on the Master Sword because I think "It's dangerous to go alone! Take this" is maybe the most iconic line from video games, and I think elevating the Master Sword, without retconning the first game, diminishes it. But so far I view these titles more as fairy tales/myths/legends than a serialized fantasy, so I'm anti-canon anyway.
Another potential factor for canonization is the residents of Hyrule being of some kind of fay race like elf or halfling.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda: Canon Council
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 11, 2017, 06:58:05 PM
Not only is the sword in the NES original not the Master Sword, it's not even necessary to beat the game.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda: Canon Council
Post by: Khushrenada on January 11, 2017, 07:31:54 PM
And why doesn't Link dance anymore? Remember the Linktusi? Who-ha-wha-cha-huh-ta-la-ho....
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda: Canon Council
Post by: rygar on January 11, 2017, 08:03:58 PM
Not only is the sword in the NES original not the Master Sword, it's not even necessary to beat the game.
True. That makes me hope that you can do the same in BotW. It already has been marketed with a heavy LoZ flavor.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda: Canon Council
Post by: Order.RSS on January 11, 2017, 08:45:05 PM
I wanna play as Zelda and make political decisions as the land's sole monarch, then sneak out at night as Sheik and solve petty crimes in Tom Clancy's Splinter Cellda: Pandoracle of Timemorrow.
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda: Canon Council
Post by: King of Twitch on January 12, 2017, 02:13:50 AM
love it^
Title: Re: Legend of Zelda: Canon Council
Post by: ShyGuy on January 13, 2017, 01:03:42 AM
