Why do we discount the value of puzzle games? That's a riddle, please answer it.
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Next week we'll be announcing the games for our next RetroActive poll. We've settled "Open World" games for our topic, so if you have any suggested games beyond the obvious (Bully, Chinatown Wars, etc) let us know.
It's funny, truly "Open world" games for Nintendo consoles, I'm coming up blank, with exception to Spiderman 2 on the gamecube, which i'd be happy to find an excuse to play again.
Simpsons Hit and Run?
I think one space where puzzle games aren't as devalued is on PC.I will argue that PC is actually the platform where these games are almost as devalued as on mobile (because EVERYTHING is insanely devalued on PC due to Steam sales and bundles). The fact that so many mobile games nowadays go to PC after making rounds on mobile doesn't help.
Just this year we've had the moderate successes of The Witness, Steven's Sausage Roll and Quadrilateral Cowboy. The first two managed to raise a bit of an eye or their pricing, but overall the content and gameplay that existed justified the pricing.These games are also 2d puzzle games wrapped in pointless 3d walking simulator to bolster a feeling of value.
Lego City Undercover is older than TWEWY was when that game got its retroactive which makes it worth considering, especially now that it's been re-released as a Nintendo Selects title.
Lego City Undercover is older than TWEWY was when that game got its retroactive which makes it worth considering, especially now that it's been re-released as a Nintendo Selects title.
This is a solid recommendation - load times are bad, but the rest of the game is pretty good.
I was going to recommend Toki Tori 2+ on Wii U eShop, but feel like much of the RFN crew have already played that game and remember them talking about it. Open world puzzle games seem relatively uncommon though, and while this game was a bit dense at times it was very well made.
These games are also 2d puzzle games wrapped in pointless 3d walking simulator to bolster a feeling of value.
... I think the conversation will easily devolve into comparisons between this & GTA though, as it's basically a goofy, kid-friendly lego themed GTA game with a collectable focus.
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I was going to recommend Toki Tori 2+ on Wii U eShop, ...
