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Title: Luigi's Mansion vs. Wave Race: Blue Storm
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on June 03, 2016, 05:16:00 AM

The fight begins with two launch games.

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/cubefight/42788/luigis-mansion-vs-wave-race-blue-storm

The first matchup is underway!  Neal and Andy tackle two of the GameCube's launch games with Luigi's Mansion vs. Wave Race: Blue Storm.  The first is a silly take on survival horror, and the second is an extreme sports game.  How do you compare the two?  Well, you come up with an arbitrary set of criteria and see which passes the test.  

Each game is judged 0-10 on three categories:

  1. Legacy / Importance
  2. The Test of Time (How well does it hold up)
  3. The Fun Factor

And then regardless of those three ratings, the two intrepid hosts will then reveal who they believe should move on in the tournament simultaneously. But what if there's a tie?  You'll have to listen to find out!

Title: Re: Luigi's Mansion vs. Wave Race: Blue Storm
Post by: Order.RSS on June 04, 2016, 01:15:59 PM
The Wave Race games usually felt like demonstrations of the hardware, mostly. The N64 one was what, the fifth game on that platform? Still plays really well, one of the better racers on that platform (and N64 had a LOT). The water physics must've been great at the time.

Likewise the GC version with its changing tides, shimmering reflections and fish visible below feels similarly show-offy. Suppose Luigi's Mansion was kinda similar with its impressive lighting effects and all the little subtleties in Luigi's animations.


Honestly the lil' Cube had a pretty good launch line-up. No Mario 64 sized blockbuster perhaps, but with these 2, Monkey Ball, Rogue Leader, the Crazy Taxi port and Tony Hawk 3 it wasn't a bad start imo.
Title: Re: Luigi's Mansion vs. Wave Race: Blue Storm
Post by: Stratos on June 04, 2016, 08:42:17 PM
Gamecube launch, while small, felt like it had something for almost everyone. Only thing it really lacked was a sports and fighting game, but Smash came out near "launch window" to cover the fighting base.
Title: Re: Luigi's Mansion vs. Wave Race: Blue Storm
Post by: Phil on June 04, 2016, 09:46:53 PM
Quote from: Steefosaurus on June 04, 2016, 01:15:59 PM
The Wave Race games usually felt like demonstrations of the hardware, mostly. The N64 one was what, the fifth game on that platform? Still plays really well, one of the better racers on that platform (and N64 had a LOT). The water physics must've been great at the time.

Likewise the GC version with its changing tides, shimmering reflections and fish visible below feels similarly show-offy. Suppose Luigi's Mansion was kinda similar with its impressive lighting effects and all the little subtleties in Luigi's animations.


Honestly the lil' Cube had a pretty good launch line-up. No Mario 64 sized blockbuster perhaps, but with these 2, Monkey Ball, Rogue Leader, the Crazy Taxi port and Tony Hawk 3 it wasn't a bad start imo.


Commenting on your Wave Race 64 water comment, the water is STILL very impressive. I need to replay the GameCube iteration, as I recall liking that, but I bought it long after release-- like, prior to the Wii U's launch just a little bit.
Title: Re: Luigi's Mansion vs. Wave Race: Blue Storm
Post by: Stratos on June 04, 2016, 11:10:46 PM
I never played Wave Race Blue Storm or 1080 Avalanche. I just never got to them. I keep meaning to pick them up as they sound like exactly what I want: graphical updates to awesome N64 titles with little gameplay changes.
Title: Re: Luigi's Mansion vs. Wave Race: Blue Storm
Post by: Order.RSS on June 05, 2016, 08:15:33 AM
Quote from: Stratos on June 04, 2016, 11:10:46 PM
I never played Wave Race Blue Storm or 1080 Avalanche. I just never got to them. I keep meaning to pick them up as they sound like exactly what I want: graphical updates to awesome N64 titles with little gameplay changes.


Both are pretty decent. Wave Race Blue Storm edges out Avalanche for me. It has a lot more content, more varied and graphically impressive environments despite being out 2 years earlier, more interesting physics, and there's less water racing games out there in general. Plus very cheap nowadays!


1080 Avalanche feels a little light when compared to contemporaries like SSX Tricky, SSX 3 or even Shaun Paulmer on the PS2. There's just a lot more snowboarding games out there (Dark Summit was earlier too), not to mention similarly playing skateboard games. So only adding the sparsely-used "outrun an avalanche" mechanic felt a little lacking. Still a perfectly decent game though, not a whole lot more expensive than Wave Race either.
Title: Re: Luigi's Mansion vs. Wave Race: Blue Storm
Post by: ejamer on June 06, 2016, 05:35:41 PM
Always meant to get Blue Storm, but never really cared enough to make the effort. Not going to happen at this point.


Luigi's Mansion, on the other hand, I did pick up thanks to Wii being backwards-compatible, and I have fond memories of playing. It's a sweet little game and I think often overlooked or forgotten. At launch this wouldn't have been the game I wanted... but years later and without any expectations of carrying a new platform, it was absolutely charming.  (Own the 3DS sequel but haven't played it yet. It's sitting comfortably on my "when I need something good" list for a future gaming dry spot.)


Enjoyed listening, and was glad to hear to hear you came to the "right" decision.   :cool;