Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Evan_B on January 14, 2016, 09:26:07 PM
Title: Pokken Tournament: Gotta Smash Em All!
Post by: Evan_B on January 14, 2016, 09:26:07 PM
So with recent reveals, I figured it was high time we made a thread about this game. Pokken Tournament is the collaboration between Bandai Namco and The Pokemon Company to turn it's beloved franchise into a technical fighting game. Superior limb-based combat? Eh, maybe not. But Pokken does possess many aspects of 2D fighting franchises that you'll either love or hate.
In Japan, the game is receiving a bundle with a Arcade Style Controller, which is a lot less arcade-y than you would think (Wii U Pro sans joysticks). First run copies in all(?) regions will receive a Dark Mewtwo Amiibo card, which will enable you to play as the original character right away- don't worry, he's still unlockable should you go digital or hate Amiibo. The game will have online capabilities (surprisingly decent online matching was a feature of the arcade title, which I can only assume had modified Wii Us within the cabinet) as well as local 1v1, with a player using the Gamepad because of the title's unique combat field, which evokes the classic Pokemon positioning.
As of this date, the revealed fighters are- Charizard Pikachu Pikachu Libre Gengar Machamp Mewtwo Dark Mewtwo Suicune Combusken Sceptile Gardevoir Lucario Weavile Garchomp Chandelure Braixen
With one more reveal planned for tomorrow (and maybe more in the future? EDIT: yeah it's Chandelure) the game is shaping up to have a much more decent roster than the original arcade title. Of course, there are support Pokemon, which can be summoned mid battle, that greatly increase the representation from the series, and alter play strategy quite a bit.
So, that being said, what would you like to see from Pokken Tournament? Any personal favorites you're hoping to play as? Curious about the fighting mechanics (I and several others could enlighten you). Anticipating the Heihachi reveal? Discuss here!
Title: Re: Pokken Tournament: Gotta Smash Em All!
Post by: TOPHATANT123 on January 15, 2016, 03:09:04 AM
After listening to the Famicast I'm hoping that the Wii U version takes out the pay to win/ stat progression silliness of the arcade version. The core game it's self though looks pretty fun.
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Post by: Evan_B on January 16, 2016, 12:55:45 AM
Surprised to see the game launching so early worldwide, but that frees up the summer for something like #FE, which is probably a better release time.
In any case, the steady reveal of more characters makes me think we might get one or two more reveals before the final release, especially since the Chandelure gameplay trailer isn't going up until January 31st. One more Pokemon would set the roster at a solid 16, though I feel that 18 would be the absolute maximum.
So, the gameplay! It's okay, though I'm not a fan of how the Pokemon move when in "all range mode", which is in a constant circle around the opponent. Movement is also extremely committal in Pokken, and dodging at the wrong time can leave you severely exposed.
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Post by: Stratos on January 16, 2016, 08:33:14 AM
Still hoping for Scyther or Kabutops to make an appearance. This will make or break my desire to buy this game.
Title: Re: Pokken Tournament: Gotta Smash Em All!
Post by: Evan_B on January 19, 2016, 05:26:10 PM
Scythe-quota is filled with Mega Garchomp making an appearance, sorry.
However, I could see Scizor getting a slot. Popular competitive Pokemon with a cool design and features a type not-yet seen in the roster. Which is another thing- I would hope we would see the entire type spread in the game. As of right now we have 13 of the 16 types, not including bug, rock, and normal. While there's an ungodly representation of fire and fighting in the roster, I think we can expect the last two or three fighters to fill out these slots, though with support Pokemon they are already featured.
I'd like to see two more entries at least fleshing out the type variety, though I was kind of surprised this month's blowout of four combatants. I imagine we'll see one more in February before the launch in March.
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Post by: Evan_B on February 12, 2016, 07:52:07 AM
With almost a month before release, it doesn't seem like well be getting any news regarding new fighters.
I'm a bit unfamiliar with Namco Bandai fighters, should we be expecting a lengthy DLC campaign from this?
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Post by: michaelbaysuperfan616 on February 12, 2016, 11:28:14 AM
I haven't even been following this game at all but now that I read Evan's lengthy description I am not only surprised a game like this is coming but that it isn't getting more hype. This could be a huge seller for the console why are they just now getting around to porting it if it's been out a while elsewhere? Why didn't they just make it for Wii U to begin with day and date with the original are arcades still popular in Japan? Anyways I just saw a trailer on Youtube and I am not a big fan of Pokemon but this is a game I will be getting for my Wii U, assuming there is a retail release. Hell this might be the game that pushes me into getting some Pokemon Amiibo, well at least Pikachu.
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Post by: Oedo on February 12, 2016, 05:46:09 PM
Arcades being popular in Japan is one part of it (though this game in particular wasn't due to some questionable decisions not directly related to the core gameplay), but the arcade version also launched with a very limited roster of eight Pokemon. They wouldn't have been able to get away with that for a full price retail release. If they don't announce any more Pokemon between now and launch the Wii U version will release with a roster of 16, which is a much easier sell.
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Post by: Luigi Dude on February 17, 2016, 12:19:48 PM
So we have a picture of the incomplete roster for the home console version, which points heavily to 20 characters.
Notice how Shadow Mewtwo is on the very bottom right and normal Mewtwo isn't on it yet. So when you add normal Mewtwo, there's exactly 4 spots left on the roster. So yeah, 20 characters for a new fighting game is a pretty good size roster and a huge improvement from the original Arcade last summer which only had 8.
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Post by: Stratos on February 17, 2016, 02:38:40 PM
So the dream is still alive for Scyther, I agree that Scizor is more probable.
Hwalucha so needs to be in this game. I would not be surprised if we get a new gen 7 monster since that is becoming a thing. I also suspect we will see an Eevee type since that has consistently been a popular branch of monsters.
Based off of the missing types of bug, rock, and normal I suspect we will see:
Eevee (maybe a type switching character?)
Graveler or Golem
Scizor, (or maybe Steelix)
Hwalucha
Title: Re: Pokken Tournament: Gotta Smash Em All!
Post by: Evan_B on February 17, 2016, 04:41:05 PM
I think people have started to get review copies, or at least, I'm seeing more coverage of the game lately, and there's no mention of unannounced fighters. I don't know if that would be covered in embargos, but we've seen fighters with weird character select screens.
I honestly think the most viable normal type Pokemon would be Lopunny, given her Japanese popularity and Mega Evolution.
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Post by: Stratos on February 17, 2016, 06:45:49 PM
Good call on Lopunny. Could also be Chansey or Jigglypuff as they seem to have solid followings, though Jiggly being in Smash may cause them to not choose her for Pokken.
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Post by: Shaymin on February 17, 2016, 08:47:51 PM
As long as they're born in 2002 or later, IDGAF.
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Post by: Wah on February 17, 2016, 09:19:38 PM
I think people have started to get review copies, or at least, I'm seeing more coverage of the game lately, and there's no mention of unannounced fighters. I don't know if that would be covered in embargos, but we've seen fighters with weird character select screens.
I honestly think the most viable normal type Pokemon would be Lopunny, given her Japanese popularity and Mega Evolution.
eww Furry's
Title: Re: Pokken Tournament: Gotta Smash Em All!
Post by: Evan_B on February 17, 2016, 09:43:49 PM
Agreed, there's already an obscene amount of Gen 1 Pokemon in this game. I'd prefer some Gen 2 reps myself, or a better Gen 5 rep. Not really all that thrilled by Chandelure.
...I really hope 16 isn't the final roster. I'd just be so pleased to play around with some more Pokemon in this fighting style. I'd also like to be pleasantly surprised, but the fact that they've doubled the roster in the year since announcement is impressive enough. I just really don't know what to expect, though, since they dumped Mewtwo, Braixen, Garchomp, and Chandelure so close together.
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Post by: Stratos on February 17, 2016, 11:30:33 PM
It could be that they left those slots open for possible DLC. To enable the product out as fast as possible to shore up the lineup of games this Spring they could then add extras later.
Title: Re: Pokken Tournament: Gotta Smash Em All!
Post by: Evan_B on February 17, 2016, 11:51:24 PM
The devs said they're not planning any DLC, but you know. Fighting games.
Title: Re: Pokken Tournament: Gotta Smash Em All!
Post by: nickmitch on February 18, 2016, 03:10:53 PM
So the dream is still alive for Scyther, I agree that Scizor is more probable.
Hwalucha so needs to be in this game. I would not be surprised if we get a new gen 7 monster since that is becoming a thing. I also suspect we will see an Eevee type since that has consistently been a popular branch of monsters.
Based off of the missing types of bug, rock, and normal I suspect we will see:
Eevee (maybe a type switching character?)
Graveler or Golem
Scizor, (or maybe Steelix)
Hwalucha
Isn't Eevee a support pokemon? Maybe they'll do Sylveon.
Title: Re: Pokken Tournament: Gotta Smash Em All!
Post by: Evan_B on February 18, 2016, 04:29:27 PM
All of the support Pokemon have been revealed, with some legendaries filling out the rest of the spots. No news on additional unlockable characters, which leads me to believe the roster screen is much like Melee's- poorly designed.
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Post by: Stratos on February 18, 2016, 06:13:07 PM
Or maybe they are actually keeping some hidden and letting the gamers figure it out on their own. That was the best part of some older games.
Title: Re: Pokken Tournament: Gotta Smash Em All!
Post by: Evan_B on February 18, 2016, 06:47:58 PM
That so rarely happens in fighting games nowadays...
I am simply trying to temper my expectations.
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Post by: Luigi Dude on February 19, 2016, 12:00:59 AM
If there is only 16 in the base game then I'd expect DLC to appear later this year. The DLC for Smash Bros is Nintendo's best selling DLC and Namco also helped on that game. Plus like other Wii U games Nintendo needs to do something to maximize their profits and since there isn't any Amiibos coming out with this game, DLC is the next best thing. If Smash Bros could have 7 DLC characters, it isn't that hard to imagine 4 DLC characters being made for this game.
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Post by: nickmitch on February 19, 2016, 12:28:43 PM
I'm genuinely shocked there aren't any amiibo (aside from the card) dropping with this game. I'd love a Pikachu Libre (or w/e) amiibo. Nintendo could easily incorporate the amiibo into the next Pokemon game by allowing you to get that Pokemon (aside from Shadow Mewtwo, I suppose, which could just give you a Mewtwo).
Maybe Nintendo is just too caught up in the Animal Crossing amiibo production?
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Post by: Stratos on February 19, 2016, 07:45:25 PM
They did a reprint of all the Pokemon amiibo for Pokemon Day and to support this game.
I'd like some new ones as well, but they seem to have their hands full with the AC and the Smash wrap-up. I'm thinking they are re-evaluating their amiibo plans after the AC line tanked. We might not get any brand new figures until this Summer.
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Post by: nickmitch on February 19, 2016, 09:17:35 PM
I think Nintendo just needed to learn a lesson in which franchises are marketable and to what capacity.
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Post by: Evan_B on February 20, 2016, 11:32:59 AM
If there's an Amiibo line that WOULDN'T tank, it would be Pokemon.
I only wish I could get more of the Rumble U NFC figs...
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Post by: nickmitch on February 20, 2016, 07:28:18 PM
Maybe it's the exact opposite problem: Nintendo couldn't (still can't?) keep certain Smash characters in stock. Probably wouldn't be easy keeping Pokemon on the shelves. Though, Smash Pikachu seemed to be ok.
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Post by: Evan_B on February 20, 2016, 08:05:26 PM
I don't believe that. Where I'm currently located, Nintendo is having no trouble keeping Amiibo stocked.
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Post by: TOPHATANT123 on March 01, 2016, 11:17:46 AM
Pokken Tournament Combo Video
https://youtu.be/OcrFa3GB1Ds
Looks like the game has plenty of depth but very easy to pickup and play. Tekken Tag Tournament 2 is great and all but the huge combo lists are completely overwhelming, this looks a little more beginner friendly like Super Smash Brothers.
Title: Re: Pokken Tournament: Gotta Smash Em All!
Post by: Evan_B on March 01, 2016, 01:47:01 PM
Most of those moves require simplistic input commands, but I'm certain we'll see soe more advanced combos as the metagame develops.
Farfetch'd already looks like a prime assist for continuing juggles.
Title: Re: Pokken Tournament: Gotta Smash Em All!
Post by: Evan_B on March 17, 2016, 09:03:22 PM
Pokken invitational was fantastic! Wow, there are some really talented kids out there. A great variety of play styles that has definitely made me rethink a purchase. Still going to hold out for an expanded roster, though.
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Post by: Enner on March 17, 2016, 11:01:11 PM
https://youtu.be/WySHnbf0L8E?t=3h59m28s Hype Seniors Final
The Early Access Invitational tournament was really fun to watch. The marketing department is doing their job as I'm tilting towards getting the game at launch.
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Post by: Evan_B on March 17, 2016, 11:04:32 PM
Yeah, those Seniors did an awesome job. Feel bad for the kid who lost finals, it was literally down to the wire. His Sceptile play was really impressive!
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Post by: Caterkiller on March 18, 2016, 07:09:40 PM
I've barely looked at any footage of this game. It was just one of those things I knew I would be buying.
My 3 year old daughter watched the opening cinematic and kept going "wow, that's so cool!" It almost made me cry. When I'm long gone I know Pokemon fever will live on in her!
I watched her play for about an hour and so far it looks satisfying to play. The attacks seem pretty simple to execute and when they land it looks like it feels good.
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Post by: Shaymin on March 18, 2016, 11:27:43 PM
A bunch of Mankeys at keyboards are playing Pokken (http://www.twitch.tv/twitchplayspokemon).
And they're winning (https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/711023998637707264).
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Post by: Enner on March 19, 2016, 03:46:12 AM
Ah, Twitch Plays Pokemon. Rock on, you crazy thing.
Nia's English voice overs are stilted and lacking. Thankfully, you can turn them off or switch to the Japanese voice overs. Can't quite pin down the Japanese voice actress by ear. I'm mulling over Marina Inoue (Alicia from Valkyria Chronicles) and Megumi Toyoguchi (Winry from Full Metal Alchemist). Leaning towards Marina; probably someone I didn't know.
First hour impression: this is pretty fun and the right amount of complexity for my head. Messing around with Pikachu Libre is such a joy. I'm trying to find as many opportunities to use the Duel Phase, Counter, Down+A move Wild Charge (AKA the Stone Cold Stunner). I pat myself on the back when I remembered that opponents who have crashed against the wall are still vulnerable to attacks and executed a Wild Charge. (http://40.media.tumblr.com/2eec54b5f316b59999cf7f96cea12df7/tumblr_o49wu1pcjP1v9airao1_1280.jpg) Oh, in case anyone was wondering, the amiibo support is of the uninspired Hyrule Warriors variety. You get five slots pull each day to earn an avatar item or in-game currency.
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Post by: stalfo on March 21, 2016, 04:53:23 PM
Been really enjoying Pokken more than I thought I would. Was on the fence, but with some amazon gift cards I figured for $25 I couldn't go wrong. What's most surprising is how much my girlfriend and sister loved playing too (GF not a gamer and sister a light gamer).
I feel like its pretty accessible for anyone, but has a level of depth with combos that could get you to sink some serious time and strategy into it. I'm hoping it sells well and we can see some DLC because the roster is a little light and with so many pokemon to choose from I think could add even more diversity into the game.
Although I don't think we'll be seeing any DLC, but if we did what would you guys like to see added? I'd love to see Alakazam =D.
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Post by: Shaymin on March 21, 2016, 04:58:16 PM
In case anyone's curious, the review has a score now.
Title: Re: Pokken Tournament: Gotta Smash Em All!
Post by: Phil on April 11, 2016, 04:26:17 PM
Would anyone like to play online? I'm not very good. :<
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Post by: Evan_B on April 11, 2016, 09:58:09 PM
I will hop online to play you, Phil!
...As soon as I actually pick up the game. :(
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Post by: Phil on April 11, 2016, 10:06:33 PM
That works! There's no rush. I don't sell games, so I'll still have my copy when you eventually get it, assuming you decide to do so. If not, that's okay! No pressure! We'll probably be on the same skill level anyway!
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Post by: Fatty The Hutt on April 27, 2016, 03:59:12 PM
I'm in for online play once I get the game. I'm waiting for an eshop sale. I enjoyed the demo quite a bit.
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Post by: Caterkiller on April 27, 2016, 09:47:24 PM
I try to play this game on a daily basis so if anyone wants to play just PM me sometime. I know I deleted a ton of people from this site but that was only cause I was constantly playing this group of Smashers and needed the room.
So glad a game like this exists now.
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Post by: Mop it up on April 29, 2016, 05:38:24 PM
I know I deleted a ton of people from this site but that was only cause I was constantly playing this group of Smashers and needed the room.
:'(
You along with quite a few NWR veterans are still on my friends list, especially since we played Mario Kart 8 on a few occasions.
I couldn't delete you, not until you... notice me.
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Post by: Oedo on October 13, 2016, 12:40:14 PM
The next Pokemon added to Pokken Tournament's arcade version will be Scizor:
Seeing this announcement also reminded me that we haven't heard anything about Darkrai appearing in the Wii U version yet. Given that both Scizor and Darkrai showed up in those data mining files from a while back, it's likely that the third Pokemon in those files, Empoleon, will be in the arcade version too, so maybe they're waiting for that final reveal to package all three together as DLC.
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Post by: Order.RSS on October 13, 2016, 04:59:28 PM
Oh cool! I don't like Darkrai or the one you spoilertagged there, but Scizor has a neat design. I'm absolutely awful at this game though, even the cpu regularly stomps me. Went online once and got demolished in seconds hahaha.
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Post by: Stratos on October 17, 2016, 05:53:44 PM
Scizor being added will push me to finally get this game. Scyther/Scizor is my favorite pokemon and I was holding out for a release like this to pick up the game.
