Post by: Polyethylene on July 17, 2003, 04:55:16 PM
128-bit hardware sales were down 12% year over year. Sony�?s PS2 unit sales in June were down 9% sequentially, and down 45% year over year with 261,127 sold in June. Microsoft�?s Xbox unit sales in June were up 38% sequentially and 46% year over year with 239,614 units sold in June. Nintendo GCN unit sales in June were up 16% with 147,408 during the month of June sequentially and 24% year over year. Nintendo GBA unit sales in June were up 16% with 317,662 in June sequentially, and up 30% year
over year.
This June 2003
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Platform Projected Units
PS2 261,127*
Xbox 239,614*
GC 149,408*
GBA 317,662*
Source
Post by: Mario on July 17, 2003, 06:44:36 PM
EDIT: Oh wait, i think they are fake. The real ones should be released any time now...
Post by: dogman85 on July 17, 2003, 07:15:27 PM
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Originally posted by: Mario
Nintendowned.
EDIT: Oh wait, i think they are fake. The real ones should be released any time now...
actually, these numbers are true, despite the fact that nintendo may have not done that well.
the numbers are all around the gamespot, and teamxbox forums, with far more detailed numbers as well
unfortunately, i don't have the link to gamespot, but if you truly don't believe it, check for yourself
Post by: Polyethylene on July 17, 2003, 07:26:07 PM
Post by: Mario on July 17, 2003, 07:33:46 PM
1) There is no way Xbox could be that close to PS2.
2) According to that report, Nintendo GCN unit sales are up 24% year over year, but last June Nintendo sold 213,100 in June 2002. How can you go up year by year yet sell fewer units?
3) Check out the May numbers and compare the numbers, the "June" number are just number floating around that some guy made up, and are just a slight modification of the May numbers to make them look like June. To back this up, the June software numbers have MP4, AC, TWW selling the exact same amount they did in May.
4) GB Player is in the software chart.
THEY ARE FAKE.
Post by: Gup on July 17, 2003, 07:47:36 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on July 17, 2003, 08:16:40 PM
Post by: Mario on July 17, 2003, 09:25:24 PM
Post by: Fish on July 18, 2003, 01:21:01 AM
Post by: Mario on July 18, 2003, 01:45:45 AM
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Actually they are real.
No they aren't.
Post by: AERO on July 18, 2003, 04:57:19 AM
Post by: BrianSLA on July 18, 2003, 10:28:15 AM
Actually it could very much be real. Why? Simple economics 101. Market saturation. Everyone who wants a PS2 ALREADY owns a PS2. With the PS2 huge consumer base..... they pretty much got everyone that wanted one thus the numbers start to fall off. So those people start to look elsewhere and considering they own a PS2 .... they are more interested in mature games so they buy Xbox. Gamecube is too kiddy for them.
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on July 18, 2003, 06:12:08 PM
its sad that Nintendo and Microsoft are so close, considering that Nintendo has Japan that actually buys its products... oh well.. maybe i am not seeing the whole picture.. does anyone care to draw it for me?
Post by: Mario on July 18, 2003, 06:31:30 PM
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Actually it could very much be real.
Ok so you didnt read the others reasons as to why these numbers are fake? Or did you conveniently not quote them?
Post by: mouse_clicker on July 18, 2003, 06:52:46 PM
If that were true the GBA's sales would start tapering off, which they haven't, sales would be down in Japan, too, which they aren't (everybody there must own 3 PS2's, I swear), and the sales drop would be gradual, which it wasn't (first the PS2 is way out in the lead and suddenly it's not?). It's possible the numbers may be true, but Mario's put up *far* more evidence they're fake than anyone has put up to the contrary.
Post by: nolimit19 on July 20, 2003, 07:56:31 AM
Post by: Fish on July 20, 2003, 08:13:35 AM
1. Take a look at marios Explanations.
2. It was posted in Gamespot forums , and then a person named "City Boy" posted a thread about it again in GS, bashing PS2.
3. It was posted in TXB forums by person named "City Boy" and saying source was GS forums, meaning it had to be copied from there.
Combined with Marios Explanations you get Bona-fied fakes.
And the original post in GS was just some one messing with may numbers.
Post by: Polyethylene on July 21, 2003, 09:20:33 AM
Top 10 Selling Games for PS2 for June 2003
Title Publisher Projected Units
1 ENTER THE MATRIX Atari 248,967
2 TOMB RAIDER: ANGEL Eidos 156,986
3 HULK Vivendi Universal 152,036
4 NBA STREET VOL 2 Electronic Arts 149,612
5 MIDNIGHT CLUB II Take-Two Interactive 92,805
6 DISNEY'S FINDING NEMO THQ 85,393
7 GRAND THEFT AUTO:VICE Take-Two Interactive 65,443
8 T .CLANCY'S SPLINTER Ubi Soft 58,634
9 WOLFENSTEIN OPERATION Activision 51,360
10 MVP BASEBALL 2003 Electronic Arts 43,323
Source: NPD Funworld
Top 10 Selling Games for Xbox for June 2003
Title Publisher Projected Units
1 BRUTE FORCE Microsoft 95,660
2 ENTER THE MATRIX Atari 80,705
3 MIDNIGHT CLUB II Take-Two Interactive 71,336
4 HALO Microsoft 56,859
5 HULK Vivendi Universal 54,656
6 SOLDIER OF FORTUNE II Activision 44,072
7 NBA STREET VOL 2 Electronic Arts 41,663
8 WOLFENSTEIN: TIDES WAR Activision 37,173
9 MIDTOWN MADNESS 3 Microsoft 30,127
10 DISNEY'S FINDING NEMO THQ 22,135
Source: NPD Funworld
Top 10 Selling Games for GameCube for June 2003
T itle Publisher Projected Units
1 ZELDA: THE WIND WAKER Nintendo 81,418
2 W ARIO W ORLD Nintendo 48,824
3 SONIC ADVT DX DIR CUT Sega 60,802
4 ENTER THE MATRIX Atari 44,006
5 HULK Vivendi Universal 37,898
6 SUPER SMASH BRO MELEE Nintendo 44,533
7 DISNEY'S FINDING NEMO THQ 32,964
8 MEGA MAN NETWORK TRAN Capcom 30,224
9 MARIO PARTY 4 Nintendo 35,125
10 NBA STREET VOL 2 Electronic Arts 20,251
Source: NPD Funworld
Top 10 Selling Games for GBA for June 2003
Title Publisher Projected Units
1 DONKEY KONG COUNTRY Nintendo 155,512
2 POKEMON RUBY Nintendo 133,489
3 POKEMON SAPPHIRE Nintendo 132,388
4 DISNEY'S FINDING NEMO THQ 115,610
5 YU-GI-OH! WORLDWIDE Konami 96,750
6 DRAGONBALL Z: GOKU II Atari 97,274
7 THE INCREDIBLE HULK Vivendi Universal 65,801
8 GOLD E N SUN: LOST AGE Nintendo 58,553
9 ADVANCE WARS 2: BLACK Nintendo 58,166
10 SONIC ADVANCE 2 THQ 55,068
Source: NPD Funworld
Hardware Sales June:
PS2 440,834
Xbox 166,879
GC 124,080
GBA 660,366
Post by: Fish on July 21, 2003, 09:30:05 AM
Top Publishers:
1 NINTENDO OF AMERICA 41,908,410 $ 12.4%
2 ELECTRONIC ARTS 40,071,210 $ 11.8%
3 ATARI 31,651,370 $ 9.3%
4 THQ 26,656,350 $ 7.9%
5 VIVENDI UNIVERSAL 20,607,400 $ 6.1%
6 ACTIVISION 19,632,980 $ 5.8%
7 SONY 18,571,490 $ 5.5%
8 TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE 17,083,330 $ 5.0%
9 KONAMI OF AMERICA 13,848,570 $ 4.1%
10 MICROSOFT 12,584,990 $ 3.7%
11 CAPCOM USA 10,914,630 $ 3.2%
12 UBISOFT 10,873,490 $ 3.2%
13 EIDOS INTERACTIVE 10,293,800 $ 3.0%
14 SEGA OF AMERICA 8,834,173 $ 2.6%
15 NAMCO 7,927,960 $ 2.3%
16 ACCLAIM ENTERTAINMEN T 6,813,271 $ 2.0%
17 MIDWAY 5,520,981 $ 1.6%
18 BANDAI AMERICA 4,329,603 $ 1.3%
19 SQUARE ENIX USA 3,649,986 $ 1.1%
20 MULTIPLE VIDEO GAME MANU FACTUR 3,067,532 $ 0.9%
21 LUCAS ARTS ENTERTAINMENT 3,050,926 $ 0.9%
22 KOEI 2,915,893 $ 0.9%
23 TDK MEDIACTIVE 2,184,368 $ 0.6%
24 BETHESDA SOFTWORKS 1,828,274 $ 0.5%
25 BAM ! ENTERTAINMENT 1,755,648 $ 0.5%
26 MAJESCO 1,252,588 $ 0.4%
27 TECMO 1,094,653 $ 0.3%
28 CODEMASTERS USA 1,019,302 $ 0.3%
29 AGETEC 948,464 $ 0.3%
30 THE 3DO COMPANY 935,209 $ 0.3%
Nintendo Owns!
Post by: Michael8983 on July 21, 2003, 11:21:59 AM
Hopefully Nintendo's MANY other 4P games coming out this year will be equally resilient.
Post by: jackson on July 21, 2003, 05:24:32 PM
Post by: Darc Requiem on July 21, 2003, 06:20:33 PM
Darc Requiem
Post by: PIAC on July 21, 2003, 06:30:40 PM
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Post by: Mario on July 23, 2003, 06:44:49 PM
