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Title: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS?
Post by: Shaymin on August 27, 2015, 05:25:00 AM

UPDATE: It would seem the Amiibo is legitimate.

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/rumor/41040/shovel-knight-digging-into-super-smash-bros-wii-u3ds

UPDATE 12:20pm ET August 27: The Brighton branch of UK retailer GAME posted and deleted shortly thereafter a tweet announcing Shovel Knight Amiibo preorders would open tomorrow. The Amiibo was said to work "in future Yacht Club Games products for Nintendo consoles" and was part of a Shovel Knight series, but the art was not final. Original story follows.

A rumor has been posted by Nintendo Life and backed up with several sources indicating Shovel Knight may be about to dig into the Smash Bros roster.

According to the video below, several sources have been advised that the Yacht Club Games character will join the roster, with an announcement perhaps as soon as tomorrow night at the Indie MIX event at PAX. A Spanish retailer has posted a mockup of a Shovel Knight Amiibo, though it does use fanart for the box's backing.

It is not known if this is a result of the Smash Ballot or if a separate deal was made, however the ballot ending in October leans it toward the latter.

Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS
Post by: WindyMan on August 26, 2015, 01:26:58 PM
At this rate, I'll be playing as Shovel Knight in two other games before I play as Shovel Knight in Shovel Knight.
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS
Post by: kokumaker on August 26, 2015, 01:39:12 PM
What are you waiting for, WindyMan? Shovel Knight is one of the best games I've played in years!
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS
Post by: broodwars on August 26, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
If Shovel Knight is coming to Smash, he'd be a great addition. Hopefully, he'd have a stage as well just so we could get the music in Smash.
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS
Post by: Soren on August 26, 2015, 02:56:41 PM
It's awesome that a game that got so much play from me last year will get as much, if not more, play this year.
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS
Post by: Mop it up on August 26, 2015, 06:41:44 PM
Lame.
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 26, 2015, 07:41:29 PM
I am 100% OK with this announcement, but I would have wished he was a costume instead of a full character.

I am saddened that popularity contests mean currently popular characters are more likely to be made then characters that deserve it more (and would have more unique move sets) Bomberman.  Bomberman deserves to be in the game for being the first real 4 player battle game on the NES, that people remember.

But I give up on that ever becoming a reality. 
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS
Post by: Adrock on August 26, 2015, 08:11:10 PM
Saying a character "deserves it more" is just as arbitrary as a popularity contest. In the end, what you're saying you want simply differs from what someone else wants.

Regarding this rumor, I find Nintendo reaching out to be the most encouraging thing about it. I have no special attachment to Shovel Knight. I've yet to play the game though I generally like his design. It follows Matt Groening's philosophy on designing characters: make a character that you can tell who it is in silhouette.

I'm generally all for any additional character. We all have favorites. I'm not sore when mine aren't picked.
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS
Post by: broodwars on August 26, 2015, 08:14:43 PM
If I had my way, Crono from Chrono Trigger and Simon Belmont would be in the game, but that's just not a reasonable expectation these days. Pity...those 2 franchises would have excellent music for Smash.
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS
Post by: Luigi Dude on August 26, 2015, 09:05:56 PM
It makes sense for Shovel Knight to represent Indie characters since he is the most popular at the moment.  DLC characters are going to be fan favorites since it's the fans who buy them.  It doesn't matter if other characters might be more deserving, this isn't the retail game anymore.  DLC characters are going to be who gets the hits and out of all the indie characters to appear on Nintendo systems, Shovel Knight is easily the most popular at the moment.
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS
Post by: Wah on August 26, 2015, 09:11:57 PM
If you haven't played Shovel Knight watch the Game Grumps play through funny as **** ****.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ECTKl5F9L0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ECTKl5F9L0)
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS
Post by: Evan_B on August 27, 2015, 01:13:59 AM
Remind me again why Shovel Knight is popular in the indie scene again? Because I can list about five or six other titłes with better gameplay and character designs.
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS
Post by: broodwars on August 27, 2015, 01:39:24 AM
Quote from: Evan_B on August 27, 2015, 01:13:59 AM
Remind me again why Shovel Knight is popular in the indie scene again? Because I can list about five or six other titłes with better gameplay and character designs.

Personally, I think it did an excellent job of capturing the feel of an NES game will still feeling like a modern game. It reminded me of what I loved about franchises like Mega Man and Ducktales while still feeling like its own thing.
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS
Post by: Luigi Dude on August 27, 2015, 01:58:43 AM
Quote from: Evan_B on August 27, 2015, 01:13:59 AM
Remind me again why Shovel Knight is popular in the indie scene again? Because I can list about five or six other titłes with better gameplay and character designs.

Because a lot of people found it to be a great game that was very enjoyable.  The same reason many were calling for Shulk to be playable after they played Xenoblade even though it was only one game at the time as well.  Once again, just because you didn't like it doesn't mean everyone else shares the same opinion.
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS
Post by: Evan_B on August 27, 2015, 12:33:58 PM
Just because you liked it doesn't mean other people should have to waste their time making him a character for Super Smash Bros.

You got me with the Xenoblade Chronicles argument, though. I was a huge fan of that game. However, I actually enjoyed that title.
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS
Post by: Adrock on August 27, 2015, 01:14:40 PM
Regarding the update: is it specifically a Super Smash Bros. Amiibo? The Amiibo could be for Nintendo versions of Shovel Knight rather than Super Smash Bros? The PS4 version got an optional Kratos boss fight and the One version got an optional Battletoads boss fight. For the Wii U/3DS versions, maybe there's a special boss fight and Amiibo support. It would be pretty neat-o to see Shovel Knight in Super Mario Maker.
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS
Post by: MagicCow64 on August 27, 2015, 03:20:36 PM
Sheeeeeit, I checked out the relevant thread on NeoGAF and there are people coming out of the woodwork claiming to have various anonymous and non-anonymous sources verifying the Smash inclusion. I'm futiley holding out hope for costume status, but that wouldn't make sense with the Amiibo.

I wasn't wild about Ryu joining the roster, but Shovel Knight is like the video game equivalent of Gladiator winning the Best Picture Oscar.
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS
Post by: Oedo on August 27, 2015, 04:02:21 PM
Quote from: Evan_B on August 27, 2015, 12:33:58 PM
Just because you liked it doesn't mean other people should have to waste their time making him a character for Super Smash Bros.


That seems a bit harsh. They've already committed time to doing more DLC, whether it's Shovel Knight or someone else, and I have to imagine he was a pretty popular choice on the Smash ballot. I have no interest in Shovel Knight as DLC (or an amiibo) either, but I don't see how this would be a waste of time.
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS
Post by: lolmonade on August 27, 2015, 04:50:49 PM
I dig it.
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS
Post by: Ian Sane on August 27, 2015, 05:12:03 PM
Go to GameRankings.com, search for the all-time best for the Wii U (min 20 reviews which is the default) and the number five title and highest ranking game not published by Nintendo is Shovel Knight.  That's the justification to include him.  This is one of the only third party games on the Wii U that anyone has even heard of that wasn't some compromised port released during the launch window.  I would say it is a lock as the most well-regarded and well known third party title on the system.

And if you're upset that it's some flash-in-the-pan character you KNOW they'll make a new SSB for the next Nintendo platforms and if Shovel Knight is the next Gex then he ain't going to show up in it (and even if it becomes a big franchise rights issues may keep him from showing up again).  SSB is a celebration of Nintendo past and present.  It isn't like some hall of fame or something.  Characters that don't hold up to the test of time will be replaced in later games and the most iconic ones will stick around.

Solid Snake was in Brawl and that is the ONLY Wii game he ever appeared in.  They even had a trophy for those Metal Gears with the lizard legs and they only appear in the PS3 EXCLUSIVE MSG4!!  A trophy in an SSB game that you would only recognize if you owned a competitor's console!  Clearly the shark has already been jumped for SSB guest characters.  At least Shovel Knight appears in a Wii U game.
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS
Post by: BiteThePillow on August 27, 2015, 05:21:41 PM
Holy crap. I might actually buy one of these Amiibo thingies.
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS
Post by: Wah on August 27, 2015, 10:11:02 PM
Quote from: Evan_B on August 27, 2015, 01:13:59 AM
Remind me again why Shovel Knight is popular in the indie scene again? Because I can list about five or six other titłes with better gameplay and character designs.
mybe the fact it can fit on and play on the nes?
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS
Post by: MagicCow64 on August 27, 2015, 10:15:04 PM
Quote from: Lucariofan99 on August 27, 2015, 10:11:02 PM
Quote from: Evan_B on August 27, 2015, 01:13:59 AM
Remind me again why Shovel Knight is popular in the indie scene again? Because I can list about five or six other titłes with better gameplay and character designs.
mybe the fact it can fit on and play on the nes?

No way that's true, the game does tons of **** an NES couldn't handle.

But anyway, the chatter tide has turned (for now at least), and it seems like the Shovel Knight Amiibo will only unlock some co-op mode or some **** on the Nintendo versions. Pheewwwww.
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS?
Post by: Wah on August 27, 2015, 10:21:27 PM
Why all the hostility?
I think Shovel Knight is Great Little title!
and pretty impressive considering its an indie.

(and plus arin from game grumps is in it...)
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS?
Post by: Evan_B on August 28, 2015, 01:51:04 AM
Smash inclusion aside (no argument will ever truly sway me on that), good for Yacht Club on getting in on the Amiibo craze. I won't get one but it seems like they're maximizing the features of the Wii U to their utmost and that's something I can commend them for despite the quality of their title.
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS?
Post by: ejamer on August 28, 2015, 07:48:50 AM
Quote from: Lucariofan99 on August 27, 2015, 10:21:27 PM
Why all the hostility?
I think Shovel Knight is Great Little title!
and pretty impressive considering its an indie.

(and plus arin from game grumps is in it...)


Not sure about others, but I'm very nervous the figure won't be available in sufficient supply. Nintendo has been slow been improving the situation, but it's still bad almost across the board.  Considering they've said it will unlock some pretty significant content in the current game and content in the future, that would be kind of a kick in the balls if you can only buy it at greatly increased prices from online scalpers.
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS?
Post by: Ian Sane on August 28, 2015, 12:06:12 PM
Quote from: ejamer on August 28, 2015, 07:48:50 AM
Not sure about others, but I'm very nervous the figure won't be available in sufficient supply.

Is this sarcasm?  Of course the figure won't be available.  As far I know they don't even make Amiibos beyond the standard Mario ones.  Any photos of them are obviously photoshopped.
Title: Re: Shovel Knight Digging Into Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS?
Post by: broodwars on August 28, 2015, 01:32:16 PM
Quote from: Ian Sane on August 28, 2015, 12:06:12 PM
Quote from: ejamer on August 28, 2015, 07:48:50 AM
Not sure about others, but I'm very nervous the figure won't be available in sufficient supply.

Is this sarcasm?  Of course the figure won't be available.  As far I know they don't even make Amiibos beyond the standard Mario ones.  Any photos of them are obviously photoshopped.

Which is why it's a good thing that Nintendo has taught developers to lock content in their games behind toys no one can buy, rather than DLC anyone could buy.