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Title: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: GCNMasterX on July 01, 2003, 06:20:56 AM
In my opinion, Nirvana is one of the greatest bands ever. My favorite song from them is Smells Like Teen Spirit, the chorus goes a little like this:
"When the lights out, Hit the stages, Here we are now, Entertain us, Not the stupid, Or contagous, Here we are now, Entertain us"
Nirvana is one of those legendary bands which no one will ever forget. Its too bad Kurt Cobain had to kill himself
Now a days, the Foo Fighters, which consists of Dave Grohl (he was the drummer/vocalist in Nirvana) and they're kicking some ass right now, don't you agree?
Title: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Hostile Creation on July 01, 2003, 07:07:10 AM
I thought it was "With the lights out, it's less dangerous, here we are now, entertain us, I feel stupid and contagious, here we are now entertain us."
That's what it sounds like to me, and it's what lyrics.com says, but I'm not sure how accurate they are.
But yes, Nirvana is an awesome band.
Title: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Dethroned Emperor on July 01, 2003, 09:14:44 AM
Nirvana was a great band, but not one of the greatest of all time, tho it's all a matter of opinion. my fave album was in utero. I really liked songs like "scentless apprentice" "very ape" "heart-shaped box" "farmer frances" I liked the first Foo Fighters album but their follow-up efforts, I'm indifferent towards.
Title: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Grey Ninja on July 01, 2003, 02:38:47 PM
Heart Shaped Box and Lithium are my favorite Nirvana songs, and some of their covers are REALLY good as well. I really like the band, and I think they do deserve recognition as being one of the best ever.
Title: RE: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Lecter on July 01, 2003, 07:45:37 PM
I saw this interesting bit on Nirvana on a show called Unsolved Misteries. It talked about the death of Kurt Cobain (if thats spelled right) and that where was no way he could have shot himself after the amount of heroine he took. It said there had to be someone in there with him that drugged him up, and shot him because the amount of heroine he took, was enough to make you pass out. There was no way he could of picked up a gun and shot himself.
Title: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Tman on July 01, 2003, 08:28:07 PM
The line is "With the lights out, it's less dangerous, here we are now, entertain us, life is stupid and contagious, here we are now entertain us" - from the liner notes of Nevermind.
Title: RE: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Johnny Wonderpants on July 02, 2003, 03:47:11 AM
Nirvana are OK, but seriously? The most overrated band of all time. Smells Like Teen Spirit, while it did do a whole lot for grunge, was a simple piece of trash.
Anyway, my favourite Nirvana songs are Aneurysm, Heart Shaped Box, Sliver...
Title: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: GCNMasterX on July 02, 2003, 08:37:44 AM
Lecter...that was pretty interesting to think about..I wonder if he actually killed himself. Anyways, Nirvana isnt an overrated band. They were a really good band, which inspired other bands to come about. They were the ones who started the grunge genre (i think)
Title: RE: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Uglydot on July 02, 2003, 12:48:45 PM
There are all kinda of theorys. Most likely, he did it him self. He had attempted before, but failed. Taking 50 individually wrapped sleeping pills is NOT an accident. He had severe stomach problems and was in relativly constant pain.
Regardless of that, Nirvana has been a favorite band of mine for some time. My favorites are "The man who sold the world" "Heart shaped box" and "Come as your are". Funny part is, they didn't even like SLTS.
Title: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Hostile Creation on July 03, 2003, 03:21:06 AM
My friend theorizes that his wife hired a hitman. He probably has his reasons for thinking this, but I don't know what they are.
I watched pop-up video one day, and there was a Nirvana song on, and the video was a compilation of lots of clips from concerts and stuff. One bubble said that in the whole 2 hours (I think 2) of footage they had, only 6 seconds had Kurt smiling. Most of the time he was singing, of course, but still. Geez.
Title: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: GCNMasterX on July 03, 2003, 08:05:20 AM
Its pretty sad...a good band who didn't last too long..
Nirvana was some good music..I wont forget about em.
I remember Dave Grohl saying something about the trouble to create their greatest hits album (came out last year) I think it was because of Courtney Cox, who didnt want to release a greatest hits album at all; since it was her husband who died and all. Thank god they came up with an agreement, and they did release it.
Title: RE: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Uglydot on July 03, 2003, 09:06:39 AM
She also wouldn't give the rights to "you know your right" to the band either. Which I always thought was crap, they wrote it with him and all...
I never put much stock in the murder theories.
Title: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: manunited4eva22 on July 03, 2003, 09:26:32 AM
I always liked All Apologies and Heart shaped box. Those two always struck a cord with me for some reason. God, how long has it been since Kurt died?
Title: RE: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Uglydot on July 03, 2003, 04:16:25 PM
Happened in 1996, right? So yeah like 7 years ago. And still played regularly on the radio around here, not a bad accomplishment. Guess he had something there when he said it was better to burn up then fade away...
Title: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Tman on July 03, 2003, 08:31:46 PM
Courtney Love, not Cox. and kurt killed him self in april of 94.
Title: RE: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Uglydot on July 04, 2003, 07:09:56 AM
COURTNEY COX KILL KIRT COBAIN!!!!!111
Title: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Dethroned Emperor on July 04, 2003, 12:29:01 PM
nirvana didn't even start the "grunge" movement. there were plenty of other seattle bands like soundgarden, alice in chains, pearl jam, and mother lovebone, who were already making music. nirvana just caught a break b/c mtv thought "teen spirit" was a catchy tune.
Title: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Hostile Creation on July 04, 2003, 02:17:49 PM
Still a good band, though.
I've heard one song by Soundgarden: "Black Hole Sun". I wouldn't describe it as sounding "grunge", but it's an awesome song.
Title: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: manunited4eva22 on July 04, 2003, 04:17:16 PM
Actually it was 94. As for soundgarden or alice in chains, bleh, I would still take nirvana's sound.
Title: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Conceived_In_Fire on July 04, 2003, 05:10:25 PM
Hey........Wait, Ive got a new complaint. Im ugly. but thats ok, cause so are you.
Title: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Uglydot on July 04, 2003, 08:41:18 PM
I agree with manunited, I much prefer the sound of Nirvana. Never cared to started the grunge scene.
Title: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Hostile Creation on July 05, 2003, 12:24:49 PM
I agree, too. Black Hole Sun is nice, but most Nirvana songs are better, regardless.
Title: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Kraven on July 06, 2003, 08:12:17 PM
Nirvana is definitely not overrated. They put everything into their music. Have you ever seen Kurt Cobain perform? Its incredible. He just puts everything into it. Watch MTV Unplugged and you'll see my point. When they perform Where Did You Sleep Last Night(In the Pines) you'll get the picture. They revolutionized the music the industry. At the time the top ten was all crap and pop. Once Nirvana broke through everything changed. Even if "Smells Like Teen Spirit" isnt the greatest song of all time. Kurt Cobain said himself that there were better songs off of Nevermind. In comparison to Soundgarden I dont see them really in the same category. Nirvana seems more raw to me than Soundgarden. Pearl Jam too doesnt seem to fit in the same category. Pearl Jam is more rock to me than grunge. Nirvana is like the Beatles they revolutionized stayed around for a bit and left but still left a mark on the industry. Pearl Jam is more like the Rolling Stones. They came and they are still here. My favorite songs are Where Did You Sleep Last Night?(In The Pines), Lake of Fire, and Plateau from Unplugged, Breed, Drain You and Something in the Way from Nevermind, About a Girl and Negative Creep from Bleach, Sliver and Hairspray Queen from Incesticide. Btw the Foo Fighters arent very good. They have only a few good songs. I really dont like Dave Grohl either. And i too think Kurt was killed. I read too that there was no way for him to kill himself with that much heroin in him.
Title: RE: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Johnny Wonderpants on July 07, 2003, 12:54:44 AM
Sure, Nirvana pretty much gave Grunge a name, but their songs are all of simple structure. Kurt got some cool sounds out of his guitar, but as far as skill goes? He was nothing.
And everybody who is basing Soundgarden on Black Hole Sun is being foolish...
Title: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Hostile Creation on July 07, 2003, 08:07:29 AM
Can't help but base it off of Black Hole Sun, that's the only song I heard. As for skills, that means very little. If skills are what matters, some hick from Tennessee with a banjo should be number 1. He should have a tribute thread, no Nirvana. Nirvana has something else.
Yeah, but the Beatles are annoying. Especially Jonh Lenon. Heck, I'd've shot him for doing that damn "Imagine" song. God I hate that song.
Title: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Kraven on July 07, 2003, 09:13:27 AM
I agree with Johnny, you definitely cannot base Soundgarden on Black Hole Sun. Could you play Nirvana's songs, Johnny? And I really dont think it matters how "complex" a song is. As long as it gets the point across. I agree with Hostile there is something Nirvana had that made them so great @ Hostile how come the Beatles are annoying? Im j/w. Haha is the song that bad? Ive never heard it b4
Title: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Hostile Creation on July 07, 2003, 01:47:18 PM
Well, the tune is anything but catchy, but my main problem is with the lyrics. It's practically the antithesis of what I believe.
The Beatles aren't that bad. Their songs are bearable, the main thing is that they're just a bunch of hippies with dorky haircuts that prepubescent teenage girls mistook for cool. But they're all right, I suppose.
Title: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Johnny Wonderpants on July 07, 2003, 06:56:58 PM
Well my instrument of choice is voice, and yes, I can sing any Nirvana song with the greatest of ease. I can also play a few of the songs on guitar, bass and drums, but I don't play those instruments...
And skill is very important to me, as is complexity. Simple music is fine for some people, but I prefer intricacy, and thick musicianship...
Title: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Uglydot on July 08, 2003, 02:30:06 AM
I owned a the soundgarden cd the contained Blackhole Sun, I found the enire CD to be eh. My brother liked them a lot and had other CDs, I found them to be the same. I just always prefered the sound of Nirvana, even if it was simple, who cares. Simple isn't always poor, needless complexity is just useless and gets in the way.
Title: RE: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Kraven on December 15, 2003, 11:44:45 AM
I don't know how many of you people know this but next year is the 10 year anniversary of Kurt Cobain killing himself. But does anyone wonder like me did Kurt Cobain really kill himself? I mean there are alot of sites out there that can almost prove other wise. Here is one http://www.justiceforkurt.com/ its quite an interesting read so if you have the time take a look at it. On another thing Nirvana, has anyone in high school noticed any kind of surge of kids wearing like Kurt Cobain and Nirvana t-shirts? There are so many kids that like Nirvana in my school its awfully crazy. But I also kind of wonder if any of them actually own any of the CD's besides Nevermind and the greatest hits. I personally have Bleach through Greatest hits + some singles.
Title: RE: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: KnowsNothing on December 15, 2003, 11:54:55 AM
I bet half of those kids don't own ANY Nirvana Cd's. Stupid posers. I despise people that just go with what's "in"
Title: RE:A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: blackfootsteps on December 15, 2003, 12:38:51 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Kraven...My favorite songs are Where Did You Sleep Last Night?(In The Pines), Lake of Fire, and Plateau from Unplugged, Breed, Drain You and Something in the Way from Nevermind, About a Girl and Negative Creep from Bleach, Sliver and Hairspray Queen from Incesticide...
I like your picks! I would add Polly & New Wave Polly though definately my all time favourite Nirvana song.
The simlarities between PJ, Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden etc don't exist, except that they were all around at the same time, collaborated with each other in some cases (Temple of the Dog, Mad Season) but in my opinion the music they produced individually sounds nothing alike.
Title: RE:A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: The Omen on December 15, 2003, 12:49:38 PM
Personally, i prefer Alice in chains over Nirvana,hands down, but its just an opinion. I liked the whole grunge scene though, and i had some of the best live show experiences during 92-95.
I also think Courtney Love had something to do with Kurts death, because the first Hole album had some songs that i know she is incapable of writing, and some sounded a little too much like Nirvana.
Title: RE: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: vudu on December 16, 2003, 06:47:42 AM
it's widely known that kurt helped write lots of the songs on "live through this". i'm not sure, but i think he even got a writing credit in the liner notes. but that doesn't mean that courtney had anything to do with his death.
kurt tried to kill himself 6 weeks before he actually did, in rome by o.d.'ing on pills. i believe he was in a coma for something like six days. after he woke up, they checked him into a rehab clinic where he stayed for a few weeks before checking himself out. he then disappeared for a little less than a week before they found him dead in his home.
he killed himself. face it. no conspiracy. no murder. no forged suicide note. he shot himself in the head.
if you're interested, i'd recommend checking out his journal which was published sometime last year. it gives some insight into his very troubled mind.
Title: RE: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Ian Sane on December 16, 2003, 08:05:20 AM
"But I also kind of wonder if any of them actually own any of the CD's besides Nevermind and the greatest hits."
Considering they only released three studio albums I think owning only those two CDs is pretty good. Anything beyond that is pretty much for hardcore fans only.
I agree with kingvudu that there probably was nothing beyond Kurt merely killing himself. He was a drug addict with depression problems. If he wasn't famous nobody would be surprised by his suicide.
Title: RE:A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Kraven on December 16, 2003, 08:53:22 AM
Well the "suicide attempt" in Rome was actually not labeled a suicide attempt after he commited suicide in April. Many of Kurt's close friend actually said he wasn't suicidal. Just because your depressed doesnt make you suiicidal. Also the "suicide note" was really not believed to be one. It was Kurt saying that he was retiring from Nirvana and music and was leaving Courtney. Also Nirvana has released 4 studio albums, Bleach, Nevermind, Incesticide and In Utero. But Incesticide is songs that had recorded earlier in their career. Also to blackfootsteps yeah I do like both versions of Polly, I dont even remember when I wrote that list. But I can add a coupla songs like Floyd the Barber, Negative Creep and Love Buzz off of Bleach. And definitely agree there are no real similiarites between Nirvana, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains except that they all came out at the same time and were all basically from the same area. Temple of the Dog was such an awesome collaboration. I wish Eddie had a little more vocal time though.
Title: RE: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: vudu on December 16, 2003, 09:52:49 AM
kraven - i've read many things regarding the suicide note being a "i'm quitting the music biz" note. it's backed up a little by the fact the only time it mentions death is the last line, which is written in slightly different handwriting. however, and i already said this in my earlier post, read his journal. every other page is written in different hand writing. kurt didn't seem to have just one style. some pages are written in all caps, others all lowercase, others cursive. he seemed to go back and forth quite liberally. it's entirely possible he didn't write the entire note in a single sitting. (i.e. write a note, take some heroin, write some more.) in other words, don't read too much into it (no pun intended.)
Title: RE: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: vudu on December 16, 2003, 10:02:42 AM
and while we're at it, sid vicious killed nancy spungen. end of story. no mysterious drug dealer, no insane fan. just sid. nancy. a knife. and a boatload of drugs. get over it.
Title: RE: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Kraven on April 04, 2004, 08:16:34 PM
Well, tomorrow, well today, is the 10th anniversary of Kurt Cobains death. I don't know what to say. Nirvana is far and away my favorite band of all time. Their music is genius, Kurt Cobain was something else. I wish he was still around. I'm still backing the whole he was murdered thing. Another book was released about the conspiracy on Saturday, I have to go pick it up. For all of the lucky people who have MTV 2 theres going to be alot of stuff on Nirvana and Kurt Cobain tomorrow. They're showing the Unplugged set which I am excited about. I wish they released that on DVD. It would be great to own. "What else should I write? I don't have the right" haha so simple but so effective, I leave you with my favorite Nirvana song "Heart-Shaped Box" off of In Utero
She eyes me like a pisces when I am weak, I've been locked inside your heart shaped box for weeks, Ive been drawn into your magnet tar pit trap, I wish I could eat your cancer when you turn black. HEY wait! I've got a new complaint for ever in debt to your priceless advice, Hate Haight! I've got a new complaint , for ever in debt to your priceless advice. HEY wait, I've got a new complaint forever in debt to your priceless advice. Meat eating orchids forgive no one just yet, cut myself on angels hair and babys breath, broken hymen of your highness I'm left black, throw down your umbilical noose so I can climb right back. HEY wait! I've got a new complaint for ever in debt to your priceless advice, Hate Haight! I've got a new complaint , for ever in debt to your priceless advice. HEY wait, I've got a new complaint forever in debt to your priceless advice.She eyes me like a pisces when I am weak, I've been locked inside your heart shaped box for weeks, Ive been drawn into your magnet tar pit trap, I wish I could eat your cancer when you turn black.HEY wait! I've got a new complaint for ever in debt to your priceless advice, Hate Haight! I've got a new complaint , for ever in debt to your priceless advice. HEY wait, I've got a new complaint forever in debt to your priceless advice.
RIP Kurt Cobain 1967-1994
Title: RE:A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Jale on April 05, 2004, 01:37:40 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Kraven Nirvana is like the Beatles they revolutionized stayed around for a bit and left but still left a mark on the industry.
They also shared another thing: a woman caused both bands to split up. Yoko Ono mad the band part, Courtney Love made the sides of her husband's head part.
Title: RE:A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: evil intentions on April 05, 2004, 03:09:20 PM
I thought this thread died long ago...
Title: RE:A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: The Omen on April 05, 2004, 05:10:01 PM
Quote if you're interested, i'd recommend checking out his journal which was published sometime last year. it gives some insight into his very troubled mind.
Maybe you should read my journal, which I assure you is just as disturbing. But i'm not going to kill myself. And, I said I think Courtney Love had something to do with his death. Doesn't make it so. Nor does it make the 'official' diagnosis true.
Kingvudu believes the 'single bullet theory' as well.
Evil intentions, this thread was resurrected because of the tenth 'anniversary' of Cobains 'suicide', I suppose.
Title: RE: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Kraven on April 06, 2004, 09:51:02 AM
I'm sure your journal is interesting Omen. I don't think I could read his journal, its like invading his personal thoughts. I feel Courtney Love is taking advantage of his legacy with that journal. I bought the Love and Death book, the new one, I read it, it was pretty good. The only problem is no one knows who pulled the trigger of the gun if not Kurt Cobain, theres great evidence that he was murdered but no one knows who pulled the trigger. Some guy said Courtney Love said she would pay him 50 grand to kill him, he passed a lie detector. But he got mysteriously run over by a train. I think one of the weirdest things is that Courtney Loves own father believes she had something to do with the death of Kurt.
Title: RE:A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: The Omen on April 06, 2004, 11:07:04 AM
Quote I feel Courtney Love is taking advantage of his legacy with that journal.
Like she does with everything she has done.
I read about that guy getting killed by the train, and details are sparse , of course. Then we have people who refuse to consider anything besides the 'official' write-up of what happened.
Title: RE:A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Kraven on April 06, 2004, 01:07:21 PM
Quote Then we have people who refuse to consider anything besides the 'official' write-up of what happened.
My friends are like that about the whole death of Kurt Cobain, I get ridiculed for saying I don't believe he committed suicide, they're very close minded about it all. There all like he was a suicidal psycho, but he wasn't suicidal, all of his close friends said he wasn't. At the time of his death, he was pretty clean and was happier than he had ever been, he had Frances Bean and his stomach ailment had been fixed. The only person who was saying he was suicidal was Courtney Love. I hope the case is re-opened. It deserves to be, there is so much evidence that it was a homicide. If it wasn't true wouldnt you think Courtney Love would be suing the living begeezus out of the authors of these books? Why hasn't she? We all know she is a greedy, s.o.b.
Title: RE:A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Uglydot on April 07, 2004, 11:14:22 AM
Well, one thing we can agree on, his death was a blow to the music industry, regardless of how it went. Nirvana was a great band with a great lead singer/guitar, and they are missed.
Title: RE:A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: The Omen on April 07, 2004, 03:56:42 PM
Quote Well, one thing we can agree on, his death was a blow to the music industry, regardless of how it went. Nirvana was a great band with a great lead singer/guitar, and they are missed.
I kind of disagree with that , to some extent. I think Nirvana breaking the monotany of music in the early 90's was the great thing about them. I don't think they would have been a great band after 94. Nor do I think they were a great band in general. They shook things up, which I appreciate, but thats about the extent of it for me. I compare them with the Sex Pistols, and grunge with the punk era of '77 - '80....
Title: RE:A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Uglydot on April 07, 2004, 04:06:21 PM
I would have liked one more CD out of them. Thought I agree that the best part was that they broke things up. I don't think they should have gone on like Metallica has, but one more CD would have been nice, and I wanted to see them live, given my age, that would not happen earlier.
Title: RE: A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Kraven on April 07, 2004, 05:36:50 PM
Sigh, yeah I too would have appreciated one more album. I love In Utero, I think its superior to Nevermind but thats probably just me. I think the next album would have been alot more out there, but I think it would have been maybe a little more happy, well not happy just the lyrics would be less dark. It really doesnt matter because they were going to break up anyway. I read somewhere that Kurt was planning on joining Hole which would totally contradict his feelings at the time of his death. I think he would have just retired. There are too many questions left unanswered because of his death. What could have been?
Title: RE:A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: The Omen on April 08, 2004, 10:30:27 AM
Quote I don't think they should have gone on like Metallica has, but one more CD would have been nice, and I wanted to see them live, given my age, that would not happen earlier.
Well, they would have never gone on for 22 years like Metallica, considering they were only at 5. Only iconic bands can last through multiple changes in the music industry. Metallica has survived because they don't change their music with every trend. They've become less heavy, yes, but they still are one hell of a hard rock/metal band. Nirvana would have died with grunge.
I saw Nirvana live in '92, and it was a great show. I want to say it was at Lollapalooza, but given how many shows i've seen, its hard to pinpoint it exactly.
Title: RE:A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Kraven on April 08, 2004, 01:12:02 PM
I am extremely jealous of you Omen. I'd give anything to have seen them live. I was fortunate to catch the Unplugged set on Monday on MTV 2. Its absolutely amazing. There is recorded live stuff, but its not the same. I don't think it would have mattered if Kurt hadn't died, the band was breaking up anyway and I dont think he was planning on having a solo career.
Title: RE:A tribute to Nirvana
Post by: Catbus Is Taken on April 14, 2004, 09:50:14 AM
Quote Originally posted by: GCNMasterX In my opinion, Nirvana is one of the greatest bands ever. My favorite song from them is Smells Like Teen Spirit, the chorus goes a little like this:
"When the lights out, Hit the stages, Here we are now, Entertain us, Not the stupid, Or contagous, Here we are now, Entertain us"
Nirvana is one of those legendary bands which no one will ever forget. Its too bad Kurt Cobain had to kill himself
Now a days, the Foo Fighters, which consists of Dave Grohl (he was the drummer/vocalist in Nirvana) and they're kicking some ass right now, don't you agree?
Yeah, that was definitely the best GameCube game of all time.