Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: PIAC on July 01, 2003, 01:04:00 AM
Title: i have a dream!
Post by: PIAC on July 01, 2003, 01:04:00 AM
okay, for all the people that are smarter than me out there, i have a dream, an idea, a notion.
would it be possible to make the GBA online using some sort of tunneling feature. a way of having cable (say USB) that plugs into your EXP. port on your gba/sp/gbp and using software of some description, connect to another gameboy. i cant seem to write this very articulately but thats my idea at any rate. i dont exactly know how the link function on GBA works, and it probably makes this sort of posibility absolutely impossible, but the idea is there!
would be awsome for pokemon tradeing/battleing
Title: i have a dream!
Post by: Mario on July 01, 2003, 01:07:49 AM
Excellent topic, i agree 100%.
I heard its "possible" to make gba games online and that developers could do it in the future. However, i dont think it would be possible to do it with games already released, like Pokemon :\ But hey, Pokemon Emerald or whatever might have an online mode that you can access through the Gamecube, just like how Pokemon Crystal had that mobile phone battling system in Japan. But i honestly dont have a clue.
Title: RE: i have a dream!
Post by: Mingesium on July 01, 2003, 09:01:38 AM
seems possible. I don't know how fast data is transfered through a link cable but I'm sure a broadband connection could handle it. I think a third party is working on an adapter so you can play wireless.
Title: RE: i have a dream!
Post by: aoi tsuki on July 01, 2003, 09:56:00 AM
Yeah, the guys at Triton Labs are working on a wireless link using the 802.11b standard. Someone on Lik Sang was shown using a Bluetooth cartridge to connect to the web with your GBA.
If i remember correctly, some GBA programmers stated that the link port speed is 2kB/sec. A dialup connection could easily handle that, but lag may still be an issue. Turn-based games like Pokemon should be no problem though.
Title: RE: i have a dream!
Post by: Jollus on July 01, 2003, 10:36:33 AM
The hardware is already there. I have a USB adapter that lets me use my gamecube controllers on my PC. Someone could write software that lets the GBA play online using a GBA>GC link cable.
Just need someone with the right know-how.
Title: i have a dream!
Post by: SuperLink666 on July 01, 2003, 11:36:11 AM
I would love some old 2D mario kart racing 4 player. There would also be no LAG
Title: RE: i have a dream!
Post by: PIAC on July 01, 2003, 04:37:11 PM
the pokemon craze would grow exponensially (sp?) mmkay, so if the transfer rate is 2kb/s then its possible in that faccet.. all good signs, im sure this has allready been thought of, but is there someone we could email? or... something, i really want this :\
Title: i have a dream!
Post by: Matthew on July 09, 2003, 10:34:13 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Jollus The hardware is already there. I have a USB adapter that lets me use my gamecube controllers on my PC. Someone could write software that lets the GBA play online using a GBA>GC link cable.
Just need someone with the right know-how.
Please tell me where you got this! I've wanted one for so long but didn't know if one existed.
Title: i have a dream!
Post by: mattcube on July 19, 2003, 06:20:49 PM
I think that asking for 100% MOBILE online gaming for the GameBoy is way too much to ask for from Nintendo at the moment. But as for the tunneling, well, there used to be an accessory for the GB Color that allowed you to send and recieve e-mails with your handheld. It was developed by InterAct. You just plugged the cartridge into the game slot, and it was connected to a phone wire you inserted in to the wall. Well, if that could be done 2+ years ago, then someone could find a way to develope a wire that one end went to the ext. slot, and the other end went to the phone jack, and create some software to go along.
Title: RE: i have a dream!
Post by: PIAC on July 20, 2003, 10:23:09 AM
nah, not into the phone line, because then you would have to have a dialer built into the cable somewhere. a USB into your pc would be better, using an exisiting internet connection, and connecting to the other GBA via IP address.. thats how i envisioning it to work.
a totally online standalone GBA is rather... difficult to say the least. but gimme my USB online adapter for GBA
Title: RE: i have a dream!
Post by: Grey Ninja on July 20, 2003, 10:43:14 AM
I have often wondered about this one myself.
The biggest trick would be figuring out how to make a PC interpret a GBA protocol I think. I don't know enough about networking, or the networking aspects of the GBA to know how practical this is myself, but I think it's more of a hardware mod than a software one.
Title: RE:i have a dream!
Post by: Ballistic on October 24, 2003, 05:04:27 AM
I am a college student in a Network Technology course, and my group project happens to be creating GBA Online capabilities. We are creating a cable that links to a USB port, where the information will be repacked and sent over the internet using a tunnelling protocol. There are no real concerns about the computer needing to interpret the data, since with a tunnelling protocol the computer doesn't actually do anything with it, and just packs it and sends it over the internet. The interface we plan on making will be similar to AOL Instant Messager or ICQ, and we hope to implement voice-over-ip if we have the time. We'll also be hosting a website that will allow people to find others to play the same game with them.
Title: RE:i have a dream!
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 24, 2003, 06:16:06 AM
I can't believe no one has thought about using the Game Boy Player to play GBA games online...I wonder if Ninty is thinking about a similar thing for next gen
Title: RE:i have a dream!
Post by: Ballistic on October 24, 2003, 12:30:13 PM
The Gameboy Player doesn't have the neccesary programming code to access the network card attachment on the Gamecube. The Gameboy Player just emulates the Gameboy Advance, and doesn't actually allow you to use most of the Gamecube's features. There is no possible way you could use the Gamecube's Network card with the Gameboy Player.
Title: RE: i have a dream!
Post by: Koopa Troopa on October 24, 2003, 03:18:14 PM
Quote The biggest trick would be figuring out how to make a PC interpret a GBA protocol I think. I don't know enough about networking, or the networking aspects of the GBA to know how practical this is myself, but I think it's more of a hardware mod than a software one.
It wouldn't be that big a deal, all you'd need is some kind of adapter so you can plug it into you PC somewhere. After that its all software. Unless I misunderstood you.
Title: RE:i have a dream!
Post by: Bloodworth on October 24, 2003, 05:05:46 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Ballistic The Gameboy Player doesn't have the neccesary programming code to access the network card attachment on the Gamecube. The Gameboy Player just emulates the Gameboy Advance, and doesn't actually allow you to use most of the Gamecube's features. There is no possible way you could use the Gamecube's Network card with the Gameboy Player.
Someone doesn't know what he's talking about. The Game Boy Player is actual GBA hardware, and the software is instructions to the GameCube for enhancing the picture and sound. Games can use the rumble functions on the controller, as well as access the other ports. I stated very specifically in my Game Boy Player FAQ that online is a possibility if someone wants to pursue it.
Title: RE:i have a dream!
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 24, 2003, 06:05:56 PM
I was actually only specifying those that had posted in the thread...Sorry I left you out
Title: RE:i have a dream!
Post by: Ballistic on October 25, 2003, 07:31:10 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Bloodworth
Quote Originally posted by: Ballistic The Gameboy Player doesn't have the neccesary programming code to access the network card attachment on the Gamecube. The Gameboy Player just emulates the Gameboy Advance, and doesn't actually allow you to use most of the Gamecube's features. There is no possible way you could use the Gamecube's Network card with the Gameboy Player.
Someone doesn't know what he's talking about. The Game Boy Player is actual GBA hardware, and the software is instructions to the GameCube for enhancing the picture and sound. Games can use the rumble functions on the controller, as well as access the other ports. I stated very specifically in my Game Boy Player FAQ that online is a possibility if someone wants to pursue it.
You still need the software programmed into it. The project I'm talking about would allow all existing GBA titles to access the internet, and not ones that require special programming. If you have to put the GBA game into the Gamecube to make it playable on the internet, what's the point? You'd need to buy so much for it to just to allow you to play it on the internet, and it would only be available for a newer game that would support it.
Title: RE: i have a dream!
Post by: Pale on October 25, 2003, 07:34:07 AM
Would interpreting the gba protocol really be that important? Other GBAs obviously can interpret it, so if you can just pipe the raw digital signal to another gba shouldn't it work? I'm far from a networking expert though. The only thing that interpreting would be good for is telling what type of game it is....but thats more of a luxury than a necessity. You could just use chat rooms where people said "I'm playing pokemon and my ip is 123.456.789.0" and you could input that info...I dunno...
edit: Pale needs to read the whole thread...I now realize someone else said basically this exact same thing.
Title: RE:i have a dream!
Post by: Ballistic on October 25, 2003, 10:42:16 AM
Interpreting the data is completely unimportant, as it will be another GBA that will be recieving it. In fact, the only real problem is in keeping the data intact as it goes across the internet, and then sending it to the other gameboy in the same form that was sent over the internet.
Lag MAY pose a problem, since distance will be taken into account. When you hook up your gameboys locally, the data only has to travel a few feet. On the internet, it will have to travel much longer of a distance. Whether or not this will be a problem isn't for sure, though, and I hope it won't be.
Title: RE: i have a dream!
Post by: Syl on October 26, 2003, 03:36:38 AM
...stupid japanese and pokemon crystal that already can go online >_>
I don't know why it would be difficult to plug the GBA into a USB port with a certain connecter, then find a way to choose someone else online, then hit connect, it will connect both systems, get a constant stream going, and then you would be playing online, even though you couldn't really talk to the person. Things like 4 swords would be pointless without the cussing, yelling, and all around trashtalking though. (THAT WAS MY F**** RUPEE YOU A** NOW GET OVER HERE AND PUSH THIS BLOCK BEFORE I.....)
mmm... memories.
Title: RE:i have a dream!
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 26, 2003, 04:39:26 AM
Haha, so true
It just adds to the hecticness when there are 4 of you bunched up in the same room...
Title: RE: i have a dream!
Post by: PIAC on October 27, 2003, 12:31:56 AM
i mainly want it for pokemon, and i guess advance wars, anything that is turn based would be perfect, especially if you were on a chat client aswell, four swords would lose its effect, but pokemon and advance wars (and probably more i can't think of) would be awsome, i know i would be playing online againsed alot of you guys!
Title: RE: i have a dream!
Post by: ThePerm on November 27, 2005, 09:31:06 AM
i wouldnt worry about playing gba online when we have the most perfectly capable nintendo ds.
Title: RE: i have a dream!
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 27, 2005, 10:14:44 AM
I don't think anyone was worrying about it considering the thread is two years old...
Title: RE: i have a dream!
Post by: ThePerm on November 27, 2005, 10:19:09 AM
they mention 802 blahblah...youd be naiive to not predict nointendo would create a dual screened device that connects to the internet that is way better then gameboy advance
Title: RE:i have a dream!
Post by: IceCold on November 27, 2005, 12:28:56 PM
Wow, Perm's randomness is sky high today..
Title: RE: i have a dream!
Post by: KDR_11k on November 27, 2005, 08:13:38 PM
Looks like an attempted account suicide to me...
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Post by: RABicle on November 27, 2005, 08:41:31 PM
It's hilarious how much FREE KEVIN's posting has changed these years.