Post by: akdaman1 on June 29, 2003, 03:03:31 PM
when you got games like ;
F-zero
Mario kart DD
Mario tennis
Mario Golf
Final Fantasy cc
Mgs Twin snakes
Viwtiful Joe
Soul Caliber
there bound to lift the cubes sales , dont ya think
wat other games are as well
Post by: mouse_clicker on June 29, 2003, 03:07:11 PM
Post by: CHEN on June 29, 2003, 03:15:48 PM
(d'oh confusing symbols)And if I look at it a second time, this line-up won't improve Nintendo's image a bit, will it?
Post by: Infernal Monkey on June 29, 2003, 03:16:07 PM
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Post by: Hostile Creation on June 29, 2003, 03:17:42 PM
Oh wait, he did say that. Nevermind, then.
Post by: DRJ on June 29, 2003, 03:27:11 PM
PS1 almost outsells Gamecube each month, its only $50, but come on.
Nintendo will do good this year, and they just need several quality titles next year, and a good launch lineup the GC2.
Post by: akdaman1 on June 29, 2003, 03:44:14 PM
i meant number 1 for the summer- with Mario Kart bound to be a million seller - it will sell systems
Post by: Hybrid Hunter on June 29, 2003, 03:51:17 PM
Post by: Gup on June 29, 2003, 03:57:49 PM
F-Zero, Mario Golf
good, but wont sell systems
Mario Tennis
i dont think it's coming out this year
FFCC
GBA connectivity will turn people away (i'll still get it, but. . .)
MGS: TTS
there's a true sequel coming to PS2
Soul Caliber
multiplatform, but with Link, it'll probably sell better than Xbox's and maybe PS2's
Post by: HolyPaladin on June 29, 2003, 04:18:37 PM
Yes, there are decent GCN titles on the way, but not nearly as many titles as the competition has flooding them. Gamecube might see a needed boost, but not flying past anybody.
Post by: akdaman1 on June 29, 2003, 04:20:34 PM
Fzero and mario golf wont sell systems but will most likley be at nomber 1 at the sftware charts
Mario Kart will sellmillions and systems
im pretty sure Mario Tennis is out this year
and Mgs 3 wont be out for ages and people will want to see what changes have been made.
But next year will suck for the Cube i mean all there is -is;
Metroid 2 - havent played the first one but about to bvuy it.
Zelda - let down by windwaker
Mario- didnt sell that well
Starfox-Looks like ****
RE4- not sure how thatll do
Post by: AERO on June 29, 2003, 04:24:49 PM
Post by: akdaman1 on June 29, 2003, 04:29:08 PM
600 000 is bad for a Mario game imagine wat good is
Post by: Fish on June 29, 2003, 05:12:51 PM
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But next year will suck for the Cube i mean all there is;
Metroid 2 - havent played the first one but about to bvuy it.
Zelda - let down by windwaker
Mario- didnt sell that well
Starfox-Looks like ****
RE4- not sure how thatll do
Aint it bit too early to start complaining GCs next year line up? this is June, if you dont happen to remember, theres still over 5 months left of this year so of course they havent revealed nearly any of next year line up. Looks like people are peering too much in to next generation they cant even concenrate on this moment.
Post by: Mario on June 29, 2003, 07:41:51 PM
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yeah cause mario sells
600 000 is bad for a Mario game imagine wat good is
Actually Super Mario Sunshine has sold over a million in the US alone. Including copies sold in the bundle deal it has sold about 1.6 million in the US. It sold jus under a million in Japan and has sold over 2.5 million worldwide.
Anyhoo, the cube will never be number one. Sony could release the PS3 with no games and still outsell anything Nintendo makes 3 to 1. Sony is "cool", no matter what the games are like. People dont care about good games anymore, good games dont sell. *starts rambling on about the console wars and what mainstream gaming has become*
Post by: Fish on June 29, 2003, 07:47:53 PM
And i have rock hard proof: My Tingle Tuner told me.
Post by: akdaman1 on June 29, 2003, 09:14:01 PM
not comparing to ps2 but it wont be getting killed by it or anything............not with games like that
Post by: BrianSLA on June 29, 2003, 11:14:10 PM
Post by: NintendoFanGirl on June 30, 2003, 09:13:09 AM
Enough ranting, my point is I do see a resurgence. Let's hope it continues through the holidays.
Post by: reivned on June 30, 2003, 10:01:02 AM
Mario Kart might sell a couple systems, though.
Post by: Nintendo Gamecube on June 30, 2003, 11:03:38 AM
Secondly, Nintnedo needs to advertise. Full fledged advertising. They have to put their posters above X-Box's. They have to rip down Sony's. They have to play dirty and mean. This is no more fun and games, but WAR. Nintnedo must declare WAR. DESTROY THEM. YES DESTORY THEM....MUUAAAHAHAAHHHHHHHHH!!!
Ok...maybe I got carried away.
But you get the picture?
And no, GC will never outsell PS2 in this generation.
Post by: NintendoFanGirl on June 30, 2003, 11:21:21 AM
I think they need a special edition GC/GBP bundle like Japan. I don't know that the word is getting out enough about the GBP other than Sunday's ad at Best Buy.
I think the Evanescence concert is a good idea and I hope that does well. Maybe they should do a mall tour like XB is doing.
As for Mario tennis and golf, I think these games will sell well but I don't think they are system sellers. I do think Mario Kart will sell some systems though and hopefully FFCC will too.
Post by: WesDawg on June 30, 2003, 05:29:39 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 30, 2003, 07:14:55 PM
For every channel the Metroid commercial showed on, the Splinter Cell commercial showed up on 5+ more channels.
As for PS2 ads, they were pretty much evenly displayed with every other kind of commercial out there.
I may be slightly exaggerating with the numbers, but I can recall the live-action Sam Fisher actor much more easily than the live-action Samus.
Nintendo's marketing simply sucks. Public exposure goes hand-in-hand with sales.
Post by: Mario on June 30, 2003, 07:20:40 PM
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I think Nintendo has a very good chance of becomming #1 this summer. They are advertising constantly. I am seeing their commercials on stations they never advertised before. I counted 4 different commercials in less than 1/2 hour a couple of nights ago. Even Best Buy is becomming more "Nintendo friendly", where before it was all about the XB. They had multiple TV's up playing demos of upcoming Nintendo games, they had tables of Nintendo products, including Game Boy Player (they only had 2 left), and tons of GC and GBA games (normally they were always out of stock). Customers in the stores (I'm not talking about 10 year olds) were looking at the GC games and watching/playing the GC demos. I did not see 1 person in the PS2 or XB section, everyone was in the Nintendo section.
Enough ranting, my point is I do see a resurgence. Let's hope it continues through the holidays.
If thats true then it looks like Nintendo might do pretty well for themselves this holidays.
Post by: Hostile Creation on June 30, 2003, 07:23:31 PM
FF:CC may be a must for many RPG guys, and Mario Kart is just plain awesome.
Post by: akdaman1 on June 30, 2003, 07:49:45 PM
plus there are a lot of secret games in devolepment that none of us know about
mario 128 is coming out at the end of this year in japan.........(it wat i heard)
Post by: KDR_11k on June 30, 2003, 10:09:30 PM
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Post by: Hostile Creation on July 01, 2003, 06:34:40 AM
Post by: NintendoFanGirl on July 01, 2003, 03:04:42 PM
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Nintendo need to show how good thier games are on thier adverts. After Metroid Prime launched, they should have remixed the commercial to include quotes like "Game of the Year", "An epic masterpiece" etc.
I think that is a great idea. They should do the same for Eternal Darkness. Didn't it win an award too? If they started some new commercials like the ones they are airing now (short, but sweet) for older AAA games, they might get more people to notice. I wonder how many people who are just now buying the GC will go back and pick up the older titles like SMS, ED or MP.
Post by: Gup on July 01, 2003, 04:01:29 PM
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FF:CC may be a must for many RPG guys
FFCC is barely an RPG. There's no HP or experiencing points which are basically the only thing in common with PC and console RPGs.
Post by: Kyosho on July 01, 2003, 09:50:25 PM
F-zero i dont think will be a system seller. Most people nowadays in terms of racers are looking for something with a Gran Tursimo feel to it such as Midnight Club 2 or GT4. Futuristic racers in general havent done well in a while.
Mario Kart I think would be a system seller. In fact, I think this game should have been released a long time ago to get people to buy the Cube.
Final Fantasy I feel is being targetted at a young audience especially with the stress of the GBA attachment. And because of that, I doubt it will be a system seller.
I think in general Nintendo just needs to get more companies to develop games for them. They need to spread out their genres. I get the feeling they dont have enough genres covered. They have yet to get a good GT style racer or a good RPG only for that system. I dunno, but my overall impression is I am starting to lose faith for nintendo. I'm trying to be faithful to Nintendo but I am getting really upset about some of the games coming out. Granted, I already have Soul Caliber, FF, and 1080 reserved and hopefully they convince me to stay instead of trading it back for the PS3 when it comes out
Note to crowd: I like Nintendo, but I am not a Nintendo fanboy.
Post by: Grey Ninja on July 01, 2003, 09:55:54 PM
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F-zero i dont think will be a system seller. Most people nowadays in terms of racers are looking for something with a Gran Tursimo feel to it such as Midnight Club 2 or GT4. Futuristic racers in general havent done well in a while.
Agreed. No question it will be a good game, but I doubt it will sell many console.
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Mario Kart I think would be a system seller. In fact, I think this game should have been released a long time ago to get people to buy the Cube.
Also agreed. Mario Kart is well loved by the masses.
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Final Fantasy I feel is being targetted at a young audience especially with the stress of the GBA attachment. And because of that, I doubt it will be a system seller.
Disagree. Square could put dog crap in a box and label it as a Final Fantasy collector's item and people will still buy it. If it's from Square, sad as it may be, people will buy the game regardless of how good it is. This is very much a system seller.
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I think in general Nintendo just needs to get more companies to develop games for them. They need to spread out their genres. I get the feeling they dont have enough genres covered. They have yet to get a good GT style racer or a good RPG only for that system. I dunno, but my overall impression is I am starting to lose faith for nintendo. I'm trying to be faithful to Nintendo but I am getting really upset about some of the games coming out. Granted, I already have Soul Caliber, FF, and 1080 reserved and hopefully they convince me to stay instead of trading it back for the PS3 when it comes out
GT style racing isn't the only racing genre, and I think that Nintendo has all the others covered quite well. We have Burnout, Mario Kart, F-Zero, Ridge Racer, and a few others. Overall, I think that Nintendo has a nice collection of genres with the GameCube. If anything would be lacking, it would be RPGs, not racers.
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Note to crowd: I like Nintendo, but I am not a Nintendo fanboy.
Nintendo fanboy here.
Post by: Nik Jam on July 01, 2003, 11:14:29 PM
Mario Golf blah
Product Number 3
F Zero GX
1080 Avalance
Soul Calibur 2 and XIII are as well but they're multiplatform.
Sorry. No can do.
Post by: UniversalJuan on July 02, 2003, 12:16:23 AM
Post by: akdaman1 on July 02, 2003, 12:37:00 AM
all those pokemon games......thier sh*t but kids like it
Post by: Mario on July 02, 2003, 12:38:54 AM
Post by: BigJim on July 02, 2003, 03:03:26 AM
Look at all of the 2002 hits. Nintendo called it their biggest year ever. It didn't make a dent in Nintendo's marketshare. The games have kept them afloat; they didn't help them rise very much, %-wise. It's quite the niche Nintendo made for themselves.
Post by: XMasterLinkX on July 05, 2003, 12:37:15 PM
XMasterLinkX(The Real Link)
Post by: Clonester on July 05, 2003, 05:06:50 PM
F-Zero GX will be good but it wont sell systems.
Mario Kart will be awesome and it will sell systems, appealing to the mainstream.
I would have to PARTIALLY disagree with both of those statements. First of all, it looks to be that F-Zero will be the better of the two games. Mario Kart Double Dash!! has so far the least racing depth of any Mario Kart yet (apart from the two people in a vehice), especially since there are no power slides and no coins to collect. The game is less challenging and slower than previous Mario Kart games. It will still be great, but there is a reason why F-Zero GX turned heads at E3. First of all, the game has amazing graphics, and stellar special effects. Nothing quite beats racing against 29 other vehicles at the same time. The game is extremely fast, challenging, very solid in single player and multiplayer modes, features great courses, it's full of racing depth (with turbo and on track boosts, several different attacks, being able to pass not just left or right but also above and below, and vehicles that vary greatly in playing style and abilities) and has great controls.
As for being able to sell systems, Mario Kart will likely be able to do no more in that regards than Mario Sunshine (This is of course just my opinion). Obviously most Nintendo fans see the game for what it is, but like most everything else, that's not the case with the mainstream. The game's image to the mainstream infortunately may no longer be that of a cool kart racing game, but that of a colourful racer with a pink princess that "only appeals to kiddies". F-Zero on the other hand has all the tools and potential to be a system seller, but likely won't be marketed enough. It's fast, a cool image and appeal, it has great graphics, and features "cool" characters like Captain Falcon. However, if it's not marketed to death, then you guys are right and it likely wont sell systems.
More on topic, here's a release list for Nintendo and Capcom games. If all the big hits released near the same time, it could have the potential to give the Cube an adrenaline boost, but as they aren't, it'll probably be the same old story, with some of these games being high on software sales lists.
Nintendo
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour - July 28th
F-Zero GX - August 25th
Pokemon Colosseum - September 20th
1080: Avalanche - September 29th
Kirby Air Ride - October 13th
Pikmin 2 - October 27th
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles - November 3rd
Mario Kart: Double Dash - November 18th
Mario Party 5 - December 14th
Capcom
P.N.03 - September 9th
Resident Evil: Code Veronica - September
Viewtiful Joe - September 30th
Gotcha Force - November
Disney Hide N' Seek - December 16th
Post by: BigJim on July 06, 2003, 01:06:03 AM
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Actually Nintendo boosted itself with Zelda... And There is a Mario sequel coming out, along with Mario Kart, and FF... We have a Metal Gear game coming out, etc... You can expect to see the cube boost up to number 1 spot, because there is no number 1, because most system are equal... PS2, has alot of problems with there systems, and I think that PS2 is going to slow down... I am not saying anything to just put the GCN's rep up but I think the GCN has more potential then the other two.. Thank You...
XMasterLinkX(The Real Link)
GameCube marketshare going up based on the saturation (thus slowed sales) of the PS2 is not exactly a compelling thought. No game, or games, will boost Nintendo's hardware sales anywhere near 30+ million at this point. We'll have to see what happens next go-around when Nintendo doesn't give the competition such a head start.
Post by: dogman85 on July 06, 2003, 01:46:34 AM
sorry to say, but KOTOR for xbox seems to be the absolute biggest game of the summer. mk
d will sell well for sure, but seems to be dumbed down. f-zero looks awesome but i don't know how well it will sellxbox and gc have about equal summer lineups, with ps2 following a bit
Post by: gamecuberulz on July 12, 2003, 03:52:08 PM
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Here's the thing guys. you're only looking at the cube's summer, but haven't mentioned the ps2 and xbox line ups
sorry to say, but KOTOR for xbox seems to be the absolute biggest game of the summer. mk
xbox and gc have about equal summer lineups, with ps2 following a bit
Post by: gamecuberulz on July 12, 2003, 03:56:32 PM
Post by: BrianSLA on July 14, 2003, 12:13:54 AM
I just saw the first Xbox KOTOR commercial and boy does it look AWESOME. It will be out in a few days.
Post by: Nintendo Gamecube on July 14, 2003, 08:34:33 AM
GC won't be number 1 like we always think it will be. It won't, get over the fact. Stop discussing Nitntendo sales boosting because it won't happen.
Post by: Luciferschild on July 14, 2003, 11:25:06 AM
