Post by: Fish on June 21, 2003, 05:11:30 PM
1. Its been made by SK
2. It has been made for a VERY LONG time.
So i want to ask what exactly it is and what its about?
Thank you.
And: I LIKE PIE!
Post by: Epitaph on June 21, 2003, 07:59:17 PM
This is the psx preview of the game by ign, I think it should be sufficient to inform you of what its about. The story from what I hear will remain the same but the graphics are being supped up obviously, and gameplay mechanics modified for a even better experiance
I would just like to add that the game stays realy well inside what futur technology holds, Denis has kept as close to detail as in eternal darkness studying what nasa has in the works and other scientific comunities. This game will be monumental if it pulls off what it has claimed. Just wait and see this game will be the king.
Post by: BlkPaladin on June 21, 2003, 08:28:45 PM
Post by: Ymeegod on June 21, 2003, 09:21:55 PM
ED really didn't sell to hot so Nintendo decided to go with a BRAND name game.
Post by: mouse_clicker on June 21, 2003, 09:47:24 PM
Also, I reccomend IGNCube's preview of the game- it's still 2 years old but it's got info the PSX one doesn't.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 22, 2003, 12:06:17 AM
That G's just too human!
it's off da hook!
Post by: Grey Ninja on June 22, 2003, 12:12:40 AM
Post by: Termin8Anakin on June 22, 2003, 03:52:41 AM
delayed through two consoles.......
damn.
this had better come out soon or we'll see a memorial for Denis Dyack himself during the end credits for this game.
Post by: Mario on June 22, 2003, 04:07:50 AM
Please make the wait worthwhile Silicon Knights
*twitch*
Post by: Termin8Anakin on June 22, 2003, 04:51:08 AM
Post by: rpglover on June 22, 2003, 06:32:12 AM
if sk is able to push graphics like that then wow....
it seemed as though too human was almost completed on the playstation, but then nintendo bought out silicon knights
i think we dont have to worry about too human- after mgs comes out, i guess some questions will be answered
Post by: Ninja X on June 22, 2003, 06:48:18 AM
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If this doesn't become the best game ever then i will burn every Nintendo product i have, buy 10 PS2's and 10 Xboxs with 10 copies of every game out on each system, blow up all of Nintendo's HQs and never buy another Nintendo product again.
Please make the wait worthwhile Silicon Knights
*twitch*
Enjoy burning everything.
Post by: Berny on June 22, 2003, 10:50:07 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on June 22, 2003, 12:14:47 PM
Post by: ThePerm on June 22, 2003, 02:37:16 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 22, 2003, 04:44:07 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on June 22, 2003, 05:30:54 PM
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on June 23, 2003, 02:18:06 AM
Im actually slowly beggining to believe this game might go for the next system. 2005 is the launch of the next system, and SK might rather bring another ED for GCN.
This would sell millions as a GCN2 launch title, all they need to do is crank the graphics up a couple notches, hype it alot and Nintendo is back in the race for good. I just think that if this game is probaby the best game ever, it would be a pitty to release it on the GCN thats not doing so well.
Post by: Mario on June 23, 2003, 02:23:51 AM
" in my post. ffs *rolls eyes*
Post by: Michael8983 on June 23, 2003, 03:07:54 PM
I think the ideal scenereo would be for Nintendo to have both a Mario title and Too Human as dueling flag-ship launch titles. Those two games, along with a plethora of great titles from Nintendo-friendly developers like Capcom, Namco, and Sega would make for the greatest launch line-up ever.
Unlike with the SNES, N64, and Gamecube, Nintendo should make sure it starts this next generation both on time and prepared (FOR ONCE!).
Post by: Termin8Anakin on June 24, 2003, 04:30:29 AM
it would be an insanely long wait, but i think it's worth it.
but it's crap how SK will only really release two game on GC.
Post by: Oldskool on June 24, 2003, 04:37:05 AM
Post by: Termin8Anakin on June 24, 2003, 04:45:13 AM
really?
Post by: mouse_clicker on June 24, 2003, 06:36:12 AM
Post by: Grey Ninja on June 24, 2003, 05:12:06 PM
All 3 of the games published by SSI were turn based strategy games, rather than real time. Having played a fair bit of Fantasy Empires, I have to say that the game is good, but it's too hard, and I guess I am just not enough of a D&D fan to really appreciate it. (actually... I have never played D&D). I never played the game enough to know if it was AAA or not, but I think it would be more of an A rank game marketted towards a niche audience from what I saw. There were some rather serious gameplay issues, but I still think it was quite good for a developer just starting out.
Cyber Empires won "Multiplayer Game of the Year 1992" by Computer Game Review, and Dark Legions won an "Editor's Choice" award from PC Gamer in 1994 though. I think it's safe to say that Silicon Knights is definately someone to watch out for. Nintendo made a GREAT choice by picking them up as a 2nd party.
Post by: ThePerm on June 24, 2003, 05:23:12 PM
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on June 25, 2003, 02:48:15 AM
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Actually, the jump in graphics will be astounding. Truely there will be games with fmv quality graphics. I have now seen it with doom 3 and halflife 2. Putting Too human on gamecueb would just kill the title. Too human hasa better chance as a flagship launch title. They just have to start preparign it for launch now rather then later.
Well, maybe its time to think about how likely this could be. Nothing on Too Human has ever been shown, all thats known is the graphics are supposed to look as good as the FMV we saw( which really looks far too amazing to be pulled of on GCN) so that might be another hint towards that theory. If you also take in consideration that this is major hit, and certainly couldnt be released before mid/end 2004 might make Nintendo think its more feasible and profitable to be released on GCN Sucessor. Furthermore, SK has atleast not denied that their other title for GCN may not Too Human. Why shouldnt they release another ED for GCN?
I personally would love to see Too Human for GCN 2, Nintendo should really know what this could do for them, and I also prefer the thought of what I hope to be the best game ever to be on the best Nintendo System ever. And, It would be the first game to skip 2 plattforms.
Post by: mouse_clicker on June 25, 2003, 05:58:11 AM
"Actually, the jump in graphics will be astounding. Truely there will be games with fmv quality graphics. I have now seen it with doom 3 and halflife 2."
We've almost already attainted FMV quality graphics in the current generation- as games get closer and closer to photo realism, there's going to be less and less of a jump in between generations in terms of graphics. Denis has said that he thinks as consoles get so powerful that no console has an advantage technically, the real advantage will be in the quality of the games, which, no doubt, SK and Nintendo have been practicing for years.
And as for all this talk of Too Human as a GC2 launch title, yes, it would be nice, but I don't know if SK really wants to build the game from the ground up for yet another console when they were so close to release for two others, and I don't think Nintendo would want to put out the money for something like that.
Post by: Termin8Anakin on June 25, 2003, 06:24:28 AM
Post by: Grey Ninja on June 27, 2003, 11:08:42 AM
I am thinking that if Nintendo wants to take the next generation by storm, Too Human would be the PERFECT game to launch with, and a Promise of Metroid Prime 3 (2?) shortly afterward. It seems that Nintendo is really getting ready to play hardball.
Post by: NintendoFanGirl on June 27, 2003, 08:31:46 PM
Post by: Termin8Anakin on June 27, 2003, 08:58:59 PM
Just like how Rare made up those two websites about "Datadyne" and the "Carrington Institute".
These are ex-Rares anyway. Haha
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on June 28, 2003, 03:14:41 AM
Am I the only one that thinks that Nintendo should delay their next Mario game for their next console as a launch title to give it a kick start? Before anyone unplugs their monitor and throws it at me, here's my reason: Nintendo has stated the game will be innovative. What makes me wonder is how many more innovative ideas can Nintendo come up for their Mario games. There's only so many innovative ideas you can come up with. I'm thinking that maybe it will be a bit late in the GameCube's life cycle to release a killer Mario game and it may be best to delay till the next gen. to kick some butt. And please, I don't want to hear something like "It's Nintendo. They can came up with a million innovative ideas."
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on June 28, 2003, 08:12:04 AM
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Yay. I'm not the only one that thinks that Too Human may be a launch title for Nintendo's next console, which I have mentioned in several other threads.
Am I the only one that thinks that Nintendo should delay their next Mario game for their next console as a launch title to give it a kick start? Before anyone unplugs their monitor and throws it at me, here's my reason: Nintendo has stated the game will be innovative. What makes me wonder is how many more innovative ideas can Nintendo come up for their Mario games. There's only so many innovative ideas you can come up with. I'm thinking that maybe it will be a bit late in the GameCube's life cycle to release a killer Mario game and it may be best to delay till the next gen. to kick some butt. And please, I don't want to hear something like "It's Nintendo. They can came up with a million innovative ideas."
Well, delaying the Mario game for the GCN sucessor would really thin out the GCN lineup. But then again, this long wait for a Mario sequel might make it sell better, who knows. Anyway, I personally am already convinced that Too Human is going for GCN2, especially after reading Matts mailbag on IGN. While it hurts to wait, I think its the right decision.
Post by: jarob on June 28, 2003, 09:27:12 AM
Post by: Don'tHate742 on June 28, 2003, 09:33:29 AM
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Post by: Kaj'oin on June 28, 2003, 02:19:57 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on June 28, 2003, 03:09:03 PM
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It sounds like people on this list want many games to wait for GameCube 2. Mario, Metroid, Too Human... What about GameCube 1? I hope all these games come out for the current system. I do not want to wait 2 years. Maybe Too Human, but how long can this game be delayed? System after System, get it out and work on part two.
Actually I completely agree with you. The GameCube is fully deserving of its time in the sun, and it's still WAY too early to be pushing games back to Nintendo's next console. I am suggesting Too Human for launch next time around, as we have already seen the game pushed through 3 different systems, and I just don't see the harm in taking it one step further.
This game is going to make history anyways as being the most... ported game without being released.
Post by: Gamefreak on June 30, 2003, 10:28:41 PM
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on July 01, 2003, 12:45:05 AM
For instance, screens
remember Denis saying the graphics of Too Human looked as good as the FMV? Do you think such graphics are actually possible on the GCN? I dont think any system so far, not even the PC could have such graphics, those graphics certainly exceed those of Half Life 2 IMO.
So what Im trying to say is that some games may not be able to be fully forfilled in the visual department on GCN, hence the delay to GCN2.
Im sure well also be seeing realistic Zeldas on GCN 2, because there wont be any graphical boundaries anymore.
Post by: Mario on July 01, 2003, 12:51:00 AM
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remember Denis saying the graphics of Too Human looked as good as the FMV?
I find that hard to believe considering those pics are from the psx version. And Mario 128 should NOT be pushed back to the next console, hell they were gonna show it at E3 but didnt want thier idea to be stolen, and its supposed to come out at the end of this year in Japan. I want Mario 128 on Gamecube. I dont really care about the GC2 just yet, im too busy playing Wind Waker.
Post by: mouse_clicker on July 01, 2003, 03:35:31 AM
I'm talking about the FMV IGNCube has in their preview, which was from a short video that was being played at Spaceworld.
Post by: BlkPaladin on July 01, 2003, 07:06:35 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on July 01, 2003, 07:15:25 AM
Post by: Don'tHate742 on July 01, 2003, 10:29:20 AM
If I have interperated it correctly, that means Too human most be fantastic becuase Eternal Darkness had some pretty nice graphics in my opinion. Also, I don't find it that hard to believe (FMV graphics = realtime), but I doubt it will be on this console unless they want to use like 6 discs or something. Eternal Darkness was going to use 2 but SK decided to compress the sh** out of it instead (ultimately flawing the game). Now if you think about the subset thing again, then Too Human would theoriticallly be on >3 discs, which would cost them some money.....
Post by: mouse_clicker on July 01, 2003, 10:53:09 AM
Post by: Grey Ninja on July 01, 2003, 02:27:28 PM
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remember Denis saying the graphics of Too Human looked as good as the FMV? Do you think such graphics are actually possible on the GCN? I dont think any system so far, not even the PC could have such graphics, those graphics certainly exceed those of Half Life 2 IMO.
You know what else looks better than Half Life 2? Rogue Squadron 3, and Rebirth.
Post by: mouse_clicker on July 01, 2003, 03:43:09 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on July 01, 2003, 03:50:32 PM
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on July 02, 2003, 04:28:30 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 02, 2003, 02:17:19 PM
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TOO HUMAN ROCKS
Right-on, brother!
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on July 04, 2003, 02:08:27 AM
Post by: Mario on July 04, 2003, 03:00:25 AM
And yep, TOO HUMAN ROCKS!
Post by: Termin8Anakin on July 04, 2003, 05:35:02 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 04, 2003, 09:51:47 AM
TOO IRRITATING!
Post by: Jasper Lamar Crabb on July 05, 2003, 06:54:53 AM
Personally, though, I have faith.
Post by: )Dark-LInk( on July 05, 2003, 08:49:26 AM
Post by: Grey Ninja on July 05, 2003, 10:49:13 AM
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but nintendo better not screw up and make the dammn disc of gc2 a 3gig!THEY better make it at least 8gig capacity!!
Give me one good reason why a 8GB disc is a huge neccessity.
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Actually, this is a point of real concern: I loved Eternal Darkness, but there is a real possibility that Too Human could wind up as an albatross around the neck of Silicon Knights. The buzz is pronounced, the timeline is elongated... the comparison to DNF may well have legs.
Personally, though, I have faith
Not entirely unfair.
But I too have faith. I don't expect Too Human to be the be-all end-all of gaming like I suspect some people around here do... but I do have faith that it will be very enjoyable, and a very good game when it finally does come out.
Post by: mouse_clicker on July 05, 2003, 11:29:32 AM
Exactly- on top of the fact no game this generation has even approached 8 gigabytes, with the increase in graphical quality, less and less FMV is going to be used, which takes up most of the space on those gigantic games, and the little FMV that is used will be compressed with technology like DivX (haven't I said this already?). I actually see game size going down fairly soon, although a disc bigger than 1.5 gigs would be optimal, but one that's 8 gigs is absurd.
Post by: Grey Ninja on July 05, 2003, 11:43:57 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on July 05, 2003, 02:34:55 PM
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